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Police Say Anti-Piracy Law Makes Catching Criminals Harder

The head of Sweden’s National IT Crime Unit says that following the introduction of IPRED anti-piracy legislation it has become more difficult to track down serious criminals. This unfortunate eventuality is a side-effect of ISPs throwing away logging data to protect the privacy of their customers. While this protects casual file-sharers, it unfortunately protects serious criminals too.

On April 1st 2009, Sweden introduced the controversial Intellectual Property Rights Enforcement Directive (IPRED). The law, which gives rights holders the authority to request the personal details of alleged copyright infringers, was met with stiff resistance from ISPs.

Jon Karlung, CEO of ISP Bahnhof and one of the most outspoken opponents of IPRED, quickly announced that he would take measures to protect the privacy of his customers.

Although IPRED should’ve made it easier to track down file-sharers, there is nothing in Sweden’s Electronic Communications Law that dictates that ISPs have to store information about the IP addresses they allocate to their customers. To that end, Bahnhof stopped storing user data. No matter how many requests they received from copyright holders, there would be no data to hand over.

Later Bahnhof was joined by Tele2, with CEO Niclas Palmstierna announcing that his company would also stop storing IP address information. Through an increasing number of ISPs, IPRED had effectively been neutralized.

While Swedish ISPs clearly felt they had little choice but to protect the privacy of their customers against civil action related to petty file-sharing, it seems that their response to IPRED has generated an unwanted side-effect.

Anders Ahlqvist, chief of the National IT crime unit says that due to a lack of customer logging data at ISPs, it is becoming harder for the police to track down criminals carrying out serious crimes.

“It is a major concern, for example, when minors are exploited for sexual purposes via the Internet but we can not trace the perpetrators because logging information is missing,” says Ahlqvist.

Taking IPRED out of the equation is not an option, though. It appears there will be a new push to introduce a data-retention directive which will close the loophole and force ISPs to store customer IP address data in future, an eventuality predicted by IFPI lawyer Peter Danowsky back in April 2009.

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  • Thundercross

    First they came for our CP, and I was silent. For I wasn’t a pedo.
    Then they came for our warez, and I was silent because I wasn’t a pirate (I’m just being rhetorical, here).
    Then they came for our our darknets, and I was silent because I wasn’t a H4XX0R.
    Then they came for our dissenting blogs, and by then, there was nobody to speak up for me.

    It might not happen in that order, but all of these are under fire now.

  • lol

    imagine that..

    signing away your freedom DOES COME WITH A COST?!!?

    im stunned.. i cant believe this is the case!

    Why.. I thought for sure that all the ‘bad guys’ were going to be caught!

    WHAT EVER WILL WE DO!

  • Brandon

    I am glad the Isp’s are standing up against these goons and protecting their paying customers. Their hassling isp’s demanding this and that cost the isp’s money which they then raise the rate to the customer.

  • .neo.stylesnv|DX

    On a side-note:

    The EU data retention directive has been challenged by Ireland a few days ago. Whether general data retention is in accordance with the Lissabon treaty will now be decided by the ECJ. It might be likely that the ECJ rules that general data retention on IP addresses and such is against the Lissabon treaty and then discards the according directive.

  • mister_playboy

    “It is a major concern, for example, when minors are exploited for sexual purposes via the Internet but we can not trace the perpetrators because logging information is missing,”

    “Think of the children” is the reason? Yawn.

  • JL

    It’s great to see ISP’s doing this. All they care about is the money and in this case work for us. They don’t care who is attached to the line as long as they pay. Which should be that way. The copybaggers and now governments want more money, they obviously didn’t see the news on Avatar. And probably don’t understand it. But that movie broke all sales records ever but also broke all torrent records. This proves these laws, drm’s and other copybagging nonsense is worthless. They are still making record profits but are still whining about copy theft. What a bunch of douchebaggery if I ever seen it. Sad. You humans are so sad.

  • dncholas

    The more I hear about ISP’s being harassed and threatens makes me interested in starting my own ISP that simply does not give anyone’s information out for any reason unless it’s related to something serious, not suspicion of downloading a file that is poorly proved if at all. One UK ISP which I can’t remember the name allows customers to choose to be an ISP instead of a customer so it can’t be disconnected and not a problem of that ISP.

  • Soooo Jealous!!!

    ………Wish ISP’s would do that in the states and grow some ballz…

  • Bobe-On (off and on-topic)

    I’ve been mentioning ISP-less mesh nets before (using the recently opened up low-frequency band), and think that’s the way to go. I’ve been away for a bit, maybe TF did a piece about it since.
    In any case, I have a question:
    I’m in a cafe and whenever I open my bit torrent client and start downloading, I lose the cafe’s “hotspot” connection (connected, I think, using a city-wide network ISP).
    When I turn it off (Transmission), I get the connection back.
    I suspect some kind of bit torrent “filtering”, so my question is; is there a way to get around this so that I can continue downloading via bit torrent?

  • Bitsnoop.com

    Playing “child abuse” card yet again?

    Weak…

  • Trelew

    Police Say Anti-Piracy Law Makes Catching Criminals Harder

    Police also say that more criminals get away because they wasting time trying to enforce corporate-friendly laws.

  • AnubisAscended

    @9 I suspect that the ISP is detecting multiple machines connected to yours at the same time, and thinking, “We have ourselves a Torrent user – better kill his connection, fast!”

    Would Protocol Encryption help in this case?

  • Bobe-On (off and on-topic)

    @12 May 17, 2010 at 23:33 by AnubisAscended:
    Yes, I’m just slightly ahead of them, but what do we do, short of a VPN (free?), when they start blocking encrypted traffic?
    What about the hiding-the-files-in-the-images thing?
    What are other solutions?

  • Anonymous

    Will someone please think of the children!
    @7 can you remember which one?

  • Le Fake

    What a no-boner, they just HAD to put the child porn card on the table, didn’t they?

    As if it’s not bad that children really DO GET abused, but by politicians too for their own agenda, too? Give us a break.

  • Anonymous

    @13
    They can’t tell if a packet’s contents are encrypted or not.

    Rarjpg can only be “blocked” by disabling the .jpg extension as an allowed filetype. Isn’t going to happen.

  • AnubisAscended

    @13 I’d go with a VPN service like Ivacy.com – it’s not exactly “free” but it’s pretty affordable (www.ivacy.com, click on Prices)

  • Bobe-On (off and on-topic)

    @16 May 18, 2010 at 00:02 by Anonymous:
    As opposed to the actual packet I presume? Rarjpg, ay?
    Much obliged, I’ll keep that in mind.

  • lulz

    @8 They never will, they are in bed with the media corps too much.

  • Anonymous

    I really hope they want force the ISP’s to log data about their users like they do in Denmark. It really sucks.

  • Peter

    You know, if they start policing the ISPs then “Big Brother” is on the net and it’s no longer “free speech”. How can they “control” the internet when it’s suppose to be “free”, next you’ll have to pay those guys in Hollywood for being online? Whose’s a Nazi now?

  • Wighar

    I qoute: “Taking IPRED out of the equation is not an option”

    I would say that taking it out would be faster and less of a headache than having to form a new directive that may as well fail in the long run anyhow.

    I say hollywood go take a nap you tried and lost multiple times, so take that nap and wake up tomorrow with the knowledge that you need to adapt to the next generation and not feed the rebellion more power then it allready has :D

  • Anonymous

    I really have alot of respect for the ISPs not keeping logs. People deserve to have their privacy. However, a law will probably come out forcing ISPs to keep logs, which I just think is ridiculous. Nobody should be forced to keep someone’s personal records. It’s just wrong. I’ve already lost respect for the government. They are to be held responsible when the internet turns to sh**.

  • Ulrike Meinhof

    “Protest is when i say what is wrong. Resistance is what i do to ensure what is wrong happens no more.”

  • burp

    ““It is a major concern, for example, when minors are exploited for sexual purposes via the Internet but we can not trace the perpetrators because logging information is missing,” says Ahlqvist.”

    Ofcos lets play the Pedophile card again .. sigh*

  • Random Tard

    Man, I wish our country had men of principal like these swedish ISPs.
    (Canadian getting raped by bell while the government takes a vacation here)

  • Anonymous

    NZ is the NWO testing ground so our parliament has introduced retention of logs along with 3 stikes so we are fucked unless we use a vpn etc.

    What a shame the majority of Kiwis are brainwashed apathetis slaves believing all the BULSHIT non-news that passes over our airwaves everyday.

    Oh and while i’m at it- the CIA are one of the biggest drug dealing cartels on the planet.(MAKES THE WAR ON DRUGS LOOK LIKE A BIT OF A SCAM!)and 9\11 was an inside job(The CIA created and funded Al Qaida from it’s inception).

  • 124534

    dont money shufflers and murderers need there privacy too ?

  • hmmm


    I am glad the Isp’s are standing up against these goons and protecting their paying customers. Their hassling isp’s demanding this and that cost the isp’s money which they then raise the rate to the customer.

    quoting @3

    What a selfish greedy statement – whining like girls when you r feeling ripped off – not a nice feeling is it???

    Give a thought to artists who are ripped off constantly by non-paying consumers who could not care less and dismiss their rights to an income from their products to support themselves and their families!

  • Government Tard

    I think mandated traffic logging is a fantastic idea! While we’re at it, lets toss in a directive that forces phone companies to record all phone conversations. It’s pretty much the same thing after all. Just imagine all the criminals we’ll catch. I think a swift end to child exploitation is finally within sight! Isn’t your privacy a small price to pay for such a great and noble thing? We only want what is good of all mankind…

  • Yeah um

    Privacy is a huge concern, but it must not come at the cost of children being exploited sexually. So you think the government is using child porn as a pretext into gathering private information to catch pirates? Fine! Come up with an alternative that doesn’t involve the pedos getting away!

  • sdasdaef

    Fighting for ones and zeros… I find it rude for the goverments to put such a great hassle on isp’s of recording all of their information. What’s the fun in their detective work if they have all the information there?! good for the isp companies :) I hope their strength of courage passes to others.

  • goat person

    @29

    obvious troll is obvious…

  • Pirate and Proud…..

    @29, give a thought to artists who are constantly ripped off by these corporations in return for signing their work over to these extortionist bullies….

    Fixed it for ya.

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  • Dia

    This is nonsense. You don’t have to find the people producing CP, it’s enough to dns-block the sites. Silly Chief.

  • Anonymous

    pirate bay FTW! tear up those greedy hollywood bastards butts!

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  • danihel

    Someone should nuke hollywood..
    TPB FTW!!

  • hmmm

    quote

    @29, give a thought to artists who are constantly ripped off by these corporations in return for signing their work over to these extortionist bullies….

    Fixed it for ya.

    quoting @33

    I do give passionate thoughts to artists who knowingly sign on with big or small shop record labels – to get exposure, have a development plan for progressing their art, and hopefully getting some income back to keep on going and doing their art!

    as opposed to the free internet model which is freeloading fans being the extortionist bullies saying if we cant get your stuff for free and you object to us getting your art for free against your wishes, then we hate you and we will tell everyone on the internet not to support you anymore coz you are rich fat cats sitting in your big mansions and you will not miss your album or song being file shared with millions of strangers on the internet for free!

     

  • dannyboy

    @ EVERY ONE!! #35 Is a site that leads to viruses so be warned!!
    that yahoofunny, oh its funny alright!! my AVG buisness edition picked it up straight away.

  • GoodNews

    @hmmm #39

    Keep your delusions. Save them for your old age bitterness. Store it under your incapability to adapt.

    Or, discover a brave new world, where artists, can make a living without loosing control over their art, and still give it away for free.

    But, you really don’t care about that, don’t you? You can only think of all those that dare to listen your work for free. Instead of focusing on those that even tho they listen for free, still find ways to support you somehow.

    What your posts show is a total inability to understand and adapt, so that really doesn’t say much about you as an artist. Or as a human being either. Only option left is reading you as a payed shill. And that, reduces completely the value of whatever you may say.

    Better luck next time.

  • Booyakasha

    This is why copyright bills, threats to disconnect etc. will never work:

    There’s a limited amount that people are prepared to pay for access to unlimited content.

    It used to be that music/film companies could charge per unit. Now, the hardware manufacturers and ISPs have taken the available money consumers can/will pay, in return for the more attractive proposition of unrestricted access to media.

    The ISPs are much more clever and technically aware than the big media corporations, so they’ll never allow even the legislation of governments to threaten their income.

  • the real hmmm

    hmmm, 29

    ripping me off my nick !
    sue ! log ! sue ! :p

  • LOW Blow

    Low blow with the child porn. Torrent sites like http://wermp3.com should just turn that type of info in to authorities. Even though their torrent cost on a per song basis (6 cents heh, heh) They should (as well as all other torrent providers) take an active role in restricting child porn. Gee I hate that word YUCK!!!

  • the united hackers association

    SO think of the children would mean LEGALIZE filesharing so you can actually catch sicko pedophiles

    INTERESTING ARTICLE
    and its true
    if your going after everyone on hte net its impossible to get everyone OR the isp says frak it and tosses it all away

  • gorehound

    Screw Hollywood and stop buying their new films.
    Nuke The Industry of Greed.

  • Richard

    @40

    No – you’ve got the new internet model wrong.

    All you need to do these days is to put up a request with some samples on Kickstarter (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/by/recommended?category=Music ) and ask for the money you need.

    If people like your work they will fund you. It’s that simple.

    There is no need for the old copyright baseed models now – they are an out of date hangover from a past time.

    Contrary to your assumptions people out there on the internet are generous and want to give you money to do new stuff. What they don’t like is to be asked to pay over and over again for the old stuff.

  • maxipcmarket
  • Yarrrrr

    Somebody should paint the skull and crossbones across the big white Holly Wood letters.

  • meh

    get lost anders. exploitation is just a buzz word. there will be another one once it loses its punch.

  • Uncle Sam

    @40

    “as opposed to the fascist internet model which is freeloading middlemen being the extortionist bullies saying if we cant get your money for digital, valueless copies of a movie or ablum and you object to us getting your money for free against your wishes, then we hate you and we will attempt to ruin the internet not to support you anymore coz you are poor college students sitting in your dorms with $400,000 in studdent loans looming over your head you will not miss your money which you don’t have to spend on our crap anyway so you might as well take it for free!”

    This message has been repaired by Uncle Sam.

  • Fred

    It should be noted that the data retention directive explicitly forbids that the saved data is shared with any entitys other that law enforcement.

  • lxlqlxl

    @8 “May 17, 2010 at 23:09 by Soooo Jealous!!!
    ………Wish ISP’s would do that in the states and grow some ballz…”

    ISP’s are either owned or run by people who are or have ties to mpaa and riaa. Right now it is mostly in the shadows but will become more prevalent in the future. When the parent company owns or controls a company within the aa’s also control the isp’s are they going to get a court order for the information they already have freely? Think there are laws against this? Well regulation within the us is fucked beyond almost all means and needs be be reworked.

    If in other countries the isp’s fight this they will be bought up too. Then there will be no need for legislation of this kind any more. Watch this will happen unless we find a way to stop them.

  • Tom

    @Fred

    Problem is the MAFIAA will just push their copywrong investigations onto law enforcement, buying whatever legislation they need along the way to make it nice and “legal” to do so.

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  • No Anonymity

    If ISPs are forced to keep logs of IP address allocations, what if they went from giving everyone a public IP to a NAT based system, where one public IP may be shared among several customers? I would think as long as they logged the public IP and the associated private IPs this would fufill logging requirements while still giving enough doubt about who actually did what for any action to be taken. ;)

  • Anonymous

    It’s simple… MAFIAA should establish their own ISP company exclusively for sexual predators.

    And then, it would instantly have every member of MAFIAA organisations as their customers.

  • Cords

    Pedophilia and terrorism…
    the fave excuses for spying on people.

    As if real pedophiles and terrorists can be stopped by monitoring the internet.

    Sooooooo old and predictable. But how do we counter it???

  • Robert

    I predicted this would happen when torrentfreak reported that pro-copyright lobbyists were praising the rise of CP as pretense to get their often badly-written pieces of anti-piracy legislation signed into law.

  • lolz

    oh lord, please, PLEASE, Think of the Children!

  • jimono

    @58 call to arms?

  • Ninja

    Congratulations MAFIAA. Child pornography thanks you from the bottom of their hearts.

    Although your failures amuse me and make me happy, this one is problematic as it causes huge side effects. Please, evolve and stop being asses. Thanks.

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  • Durp

    Piracy is going down, CP is going up!

  • anonymouses

    i can understand the need to catch pedos, i hate pedos, if that is the case then anybody ever caught or has been suspected of viewing or being a pedo looking at cp should have there computer taken away and internet rights taken aswell. but anybody that is using the internet for anything other than that should be protected. see what some laws do to hurt their own justice system cause of money being passed into law makers hands…. its despicable.

  • Lilysaidmoo

    Maybe it’s because the fact I value every human being, or that I have a friend who looks at this stuff, or that I’m gay and know what it’s like to be an oppressed member of society and don’t ever want to be parent of a whiney little shit… but I honestly couldn’t give two shits whether someone looks at child porn.

    I’m not saying it’s right, I’m just saying surely there’s no harm in someone looking at a few images rather than actually producing these images or harming minors – I doubt they need the internet to catch the people making this stuff anyway – any kid that doesn’t have brain damage can just tell a responsible adult.

    I know the debate goes a lot deeper than this, I’m just saying…

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