Record Labels Blame Google For Piracy, Hint At Censorship

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December 16, 2010
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The British Phonographic Industry (BPI), the UK’s main recording industry trade body, came out with guns blazing against Google today. BPI says that search engines like Google are as popular as P2P applications as a source for illegal downloads. The music industry is pressing Google and others to censor their search results in favor of ‘legal’ music services.

google piracy Anyone who searches for music, TV-shows or movies on the Internet will notice that BitTorrent sites and other file-sharing services are usually listed among the top results.

As we have argued before, Google is probably the number one reason why millions of people are using BitTorrent sites today. This trend hasn’t gone unnoticed to the music industry either, and today The British Phonographic Industry (BPI) went as far as blaming Google and other search engines for being a main source for online piracy.

“Search engines are as popular as P2P applications as a source of illegal downloads,” BPI stated in a report today. “It’s not hard to see why. Key in the name of any popular artist, add search terms like ‘mp3′ or ‘download’ – both neutral terms – and typically the large majority of results that appear are blatant links to illegal downloads.”

As an example of this alleged facilitating behavior by Google, the BPI performed a few test searches. They found that the majority of the top Google search results for popular singles pointed to ‘illicit’ sources.

“In a single week in November, BPI test searches were made on Google for the UK’s top 20 singles or albums, followed by ‘mp3′. On average 17 of the first 20 Google results for singles and 14 of 20 search results for albums were links to known illegal sites.”

The search results are just one part of the search engine problem though. In addition, the BPI points out that services such as auto suggest and Google’s instant service may drive people towards ‘rogue’ or ‘illegal’ sites.

“The predictive search tools offered by some search engines go further by actively directing users towards free illegal downloads by auto-completing artist searches with additional phrases like ‘torrent’, or providing specific references to unlicensed sources like Mediafire or mp3raid.”

CENSORED SOON

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Although the BPI is right in their analysis, they also know that the search results are merely the result of a set of algorithms. Piracy related searches float to the top and are suggested because that’s what people tend to search for. Google has no active role in it.

This is what the BPI hopes to change. They suggest that search engines should actively censor their search results, and move links to ‘authorized’ music stores higher up. According to the music industry this would be a very effective tool to decrease piracy.

“The music industry continues to press search engines to help consumers stay on the right side of the law and has suggested concrete solutions such as prioritising music search results in favour of legal online services such as those highlighted by the Music Matters campaign,” the BPI writes.

In part, these lobbying efforts have already been successful. Two weeks ago Google announced several upcoming changes that would benefit copyright holders. Among other things the search mogul said that it would censor ‘piracy’ related words for appearing as auto-complete suggestions.

For Google this is a slippery slope to be on, and the next step could very well be the sort of commercial censorship the music industry is suggesting. And if the music industry is successful, other industries will soon follow. The question is, however, if that will solve the piracy issues or just hide them.

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geez

Google will soon fall, what goes up must come down.

So who is next to the take the crown? I’m ready!
Google

Google will not fall, what nonsense are you sprouting? Get off whatever you are smoking.
anom-a-lous

Yep it’s Google’s fault that only crap music is being produced and released and then they wonder why people won’t want to pay for crap ?
blabbashrimp

arrrh F***k0ff music industrys..starting to really get on everyones nerves now
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blabbashrimp

sorry ment copyright bullcrap blaaa deeee blaaaa sick of hearing about that word
milrtime83

“and move links to ‘authorized’ music stores higher up.”

Can’t they do this already with paid ads? Or do they just think they should get free advertising because they’re special?
Anonymous

Maybe if Big Media had some decent online outlets for their product, and if those outlets carried decent content, then perhaps they’d find that sites might be nearer the top of the list?
GoldenBoar

Send an email to BPI.

Hello BPI,

Is it legal to post the following text:

Hash: A8782054B0B99732534B0198CC14B17E38F02C80

Name: Coldplay – Discography [Lossless/FLAC]

Is it legal to create a javascript which turns a 20 byte hish into a magnet link like below?

javascript:var%20magnetLink=’magnet:?xt=urn:btih:’+document.getSelection();location.assign(magnetLink);

Yours sincerely hoping you die,

GoldenBoar.
tude

cool story poop
morphoyle

I hope they do censor it. I was pretty pissed when services like Kazaa and napster were introduced. I just knew that pushing pirated content in to the mainstream was a bad idea. Piracy needs to go back underground, back to NNTP and IRC channels, where it started, and went largely unnoticed.
Ravenheart

Every time I read “British Phonographic Industry” I always read it as “British Pornographic Industry”.
2in

So here’s a solution for everyone, you can’t get your search ranking above a competitor, but you’ve loads of cash to throw at the problem, bribe the search engines to censor your only competition and you’re sorted!
Surly this is a slippery slope for google etc now, once they start censoring this stuff they’ll loose safe harbour as a service provider and then become responsible for and and all content displayed in search results.
Ano

Anyone notice that as soon as an indie artist signs with a big label, his/her songs starts to suck?
That’s why we should suppose Indie labels, the level of music is a lot higher than the stupid big labels only interested in big bucks.
Josh

@ 11:

Me too! And I thought I was the only one… who else?
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Anonymous

@14 me too actually lulz
Acce

@11 Yes, I do that too lol!
hotdog

They are only killing their own business they will never learn.
hmm

agree@ 7
Arthur Jensen

Sounds like Google think they’re gonna be irreplaceable.
Cam

How about the music industry start using SEO instead so that their sites come out on top of searches?
FB

The Media Industry can create a service that is using mp3 and private torrent tracker. Then pople will find them using those search terms…
neghvar

I’m not familiar with the laws in the UK, but here in the US, Kazaa, imesh, napster, etc. Their dominant purpose was to download copyrighted material. That is not Google’s purpose. Not even close. They can be a pussy and cower to the intimidation attacks from big media.

“That’s why we should suppose Indie labels, the level of music is a lot higher than the stupid big labels only interested in big bucks.” Ano

Music sales are actually on the rise while it is albums sales that are dropping. That is the statistic the RIAA is reporting and thus making it sound like they are the victim of piracy. but with the help of the internet artists are able to go directly to the consumer and supplies to distribute their content are quite cheap and easily available now compared to the 90′s and before and service providers that specialize in hosting websites for the artists. That is what the RIAA fears the most
Anonymous

If I was in charge of Google, I’d make a TPB doodle and point it to search for ‘torrent’.
Andrew

4/10

Google is not only search engine in whole world

You can use Torrentz to search.

Troll harder BPI
Anonymous

Google has been good about trying to stay right away from censorship. It’s a real shame they already do it for search suggestions and more to come soon, but the point is the more they censor the less representative it is of the real world and therefore the less we will visit.
Anonymous

Google needs to seriously get into funding the EFF and not set a single path down this route. The Google is an index not a list of just preferred things that certain industries want you to see and buy.
Precedent van Rompuy

Does this mean that if I want to make my music available as a torrent (to encourage people to come to my live performances), Google will make it harder for people to find?

That sounds like Google is colluding with one set of music companies to the detriment of another set of music companies which is anti-competitive.

If Google start their own music / video store this censorship could become illegal on economic grounds.
Anon

I think British Pornographic Industry will miss the vital point here, it happens that Google just did what customers want and is search wont work the way how they expected, customers goes else where. jibberjapper gibberish bullshit.
trustnoone

As if, the only reason most illegal sites come up is because people search for it, and so it increases in the list of the Google algorithm.
If Google starts censoring stuff people will just use another search engine, there’s plenty more.
Its not Google to be blamed here, I seriously can’t see how someone can have the audacity to blame a company when all they do is relay searchs. Thats like blaming a company that makes pencils because people can use it to redraw copyrighted art.
jovialau

As mininova demonstrated.Give the public what it wants or they will go elswhere.If google doesn`t come out with all guns blazing it will suffer the same consequences.They have sat on their tushes while everyone else took the fall.They could have fought,but chose the cowards way.Now they must suffer as legal precedent has been set in the courts.It will be much harder,Regardless of resources.The general publics allegiances change like the wind.They could well have made themselves.”Yesterdays story”
Jeff

@11: They may as well call it that. Some of the crap the Big 4 labels put out is pretty close to being obscene.

And rather than trying to censor those so-called ‘illegal’ results, why not compete with piracy by getting higher search rankings for legitimate music stores/services? A little SEO goes a long way.
DERP

They can probably get the first 4 or 5 results if they pay a large sum of money. Google ain’t charity.

@11: me too.

OT: There was a site, cooga.net(?), that used to appear everywhere, as fake torrents results. Now it seems to be gone.
9

From the article, BPI said:

“It’s not hard to see why. Key in the name of any popular artist, add search terms like ‘mp3? or ‘download’ – both neutral terms – and typically the large majority of results that appear are blatant links to illegal downloads.”

That’s weird.. Because in BPI/MPAA/RIAA’s “perfect” world, mp3s and downloads would have never been created.. In their perfect world, every one would go to the store to buy songs on compact discs.. So no, “mp3″ and “download” are NOT neutral terms.. A neutral term would be “album”, because that could find results for either actual CD-selling sites, as well as p2p sites.. The words “mp3″ and “download” are EVIL to them usually, unless of course it works *to their advantage*, for example, in attacking google like this..

This is a double standard, and a really unfair way to fight.. They always want more more more.. Suing people is not enough.. Taking sites down is not enough.. Now they think google’s number one priority should be to act as a puppet for the industries and create complex algorithms that will in no way allow any one to ever successfully find another file-sharing site EVER..

Also, I thought google was against censorship.. (They left china, remember?).. It is a sad day when some one as even giant as google feels scared from recording/film industries pressure, and finally buckles and censors the entire internet as far as search goes..

The internet sees censorship as damage and routes around it..
+1 vote for starting a new internet..
anon

LOL @ this crap… Seed or die! No matter what the MAFFIA do they will never defeat Piracy.
neb

Google is a LOT different than it was several years ago. I could find nearly any hacking and or security software I wanted. I wonder why they didn’t mention Bing. 6 of one, half dozen of the other. You all want censorship, get a cell phone.
No thank you please, it only make me sneeze, and I can’t find my way to the door.
Shiny Gardevoir

What I find funny is not the fact that they want to censor google. The part I find funny is that they basically want Google to offer them free advertising.
astroboi

Search for a torrent or download and the first few hundred links are rubbish sites trying to get you to download some magic program that installs malware. The rest want you to join a toxic site or ask for money. If you find a real torrent or rapidshare link you are a very determined dude. Or lucky. Or you are looking for something so easily found that Google isn’t necessary anyway.
EliteEliza

The BPI?! Lol those losers don’t stand a chance.
somedipshit

I wish piracy would go back underground. Too much publicity anymore.
Anonymous

Google is watching you anyway
Shonumi

It’s nice to see that Google up and leaves China over issues of censorship only to kowtow to Western media companies and groups by implementing -wait for it- censorship. That’s hypocritical to say the least.

I realize, however, that money plays more influence to Google than virtue. Google has (or at some point had) ambitions for selling online music. They’re also pretty keen on their Google TV project. In order for either of those services to be successful, Google needs to have the media companies on its side. Google fought off Viacom and won. With its capital and legal resources, it could easily take on calls to censor its results in regards to IP infringement. I reckon they want to be nice as possible to Big Media so as to gain support for future services.

But still, really. This censorship would very mucb do little other than perhaps make some users have to skip to the second or third page on the search results for more relevant info. One could theoretically make a parser in something as simple as JavaScript that restores the relevancy of the search results on torrents.

Lastly, seriously BPI. They’re two weeks too late! Google already said they’d censor results. Does BPI want it done yesterday or something?
danjoe

Losers allways blame the other for their fail!
G

Corporate licensing is Google’s Achilles Heel. It had to choose between boatloads of cash and its motto, “Don’t Be Evil.” Unfortunately for those still using legacy currency economic systems instead of P2P contribution tracking, it is not possible to chain oneself to the licensing of a public stock offering without being evil. Corporations, and now people, are controlled by unelected bureaucracies through their licensing, and those bureaucracies ultimately work for international banks that effectively print their money.

I will allow for the possibility that Google is a tool to suck wealth from investors to create open architecture apps for the emerging neural world. We are seeing increasing evidence that Google cares about open source, but as we know from our experiences with Microsoft and Oracle, an open surface program that relies on proprietary underlying engines is not really open at all. Thus, the proof is in the pudding. If Chrome is truly open, others will be able to fork its technology and Google will have to compete on merit.

While competing on merit may be scary for investors, it is the best long term strategy for Google. Thanks to the Torrents, we are entering a world where holding the contributions of others hostage until ransom is paid effectively shoots oneself in the foot. When measured in Distributed Proximity instead of legacy currency systems, real wealth (purchasing power) increases over twenty fold for those who produce goods and services others want, while usurers get nothing.
harry krishna

and i understand that the british pornographic industry (bpi) is incensed that a google search of “free porn” is bypassing their member websites.
TheSheep

I love where this goes and I hope google will stand up for their rights. That said, I hope google will become our ally in the fight for freedom of information and sharing :]
Cujo

thats it!

we’ve been busted!

we’ll all have to switch search to https://startpage.com or something??
non

just dump google. problem solved
needy

if the BPI win and force Google to put illegal download results further down the list of search results, the next step will be to have ALL those search results removed completely. if Google are stupid enough to fall for this, it will end up the same as sites that tried to do as the entertainment/copyright industries wanted. removing content when asked didn’t save those sites and lowering results of searches wont be enough for them either. shutting down the sites was the aim then. the aim here is to be as restrictive as possible. if that is achieved, other search engines will be forced to follow.
stand up for your beliefs and your users, Google. dont pull out of China using censorship as the reason, then start censoring everywhere else. not only would that be hypocritical and 2 faced, it could end up a lot more disastrous for you than you think!
What people want

Google clearly provides what people want, the bigger question for the MAFIAA should be why all these other sites are so much more popular that they offer what people actually want.

I am willing to bet that when Google starts to censor on behalf of the MAFIAA, less people will use it looking for music and films. Instead they’ll go directly to other “illegal” sources, and as such never even get the legal options that Google still does provide.

This will cost both Google and the MAFIAA.
rofl

Have to wonder if people will react by flooding the search choices on google as a retaliation? Would it be that hard to get people to devote a few days to searches of

MPAA sues children

RIAA bankrupts elderly

BPI hates free speech

Those wouldn’t actually be linking to anything illegal so at that point the media heads would just want pure censorship to hide their activities.
hmm

BPI and Feargal Sharkey knobs
Alex Jacobson

I really don’t understand Google’s motivation for agreeing to this kind of censorship. Convincing a court that a bunch of Swedish kids with radical politics were harmful for industry is one thing but I can’t imagine any court anywhere being convinced that a multinational corporation such as Google should be bullied into complying with a waning industries blatant interests.
anonymous

Google could sue BPI and close it down Google is Huge and i doubt the music industry even comes close in profits. Good luck, but maybe the music industry should look at what people search on google and change what they do! aka if good starts censoring a new search engine will take its place and it wont be able to be taking down… Do you want that BPI?
Jen

Who even USES Google as a torrent search engine? There are many sites out there that are dedicated just for that and also display stats for the torrents found.
Charles

So about the only thing that would make Google uncensor it’s results is if the MAFIAA hacked into their system to read “pirate”‘s mail.

Oh wait, they already do that without hacking. Never mind.
neb

I have done business with Google. They are a bunch of thieves.
Might as well start my term now.
Try this. Dogpile.com
It’s not the search results that make money for Google, it’s the way they advertise clients promos, myself included. Google is a sham.
No doubt about it. Censorship? It’s built in. All these folks talking about bittorrent users, where the heck are they? The vast majority of folks don’t have a clue how to dl “illegal” things. What a bunch of dogpile. Get a cell phone. Get real. Just remember, I am watching you……….
Anonymous

Does the corporation of parasites who control our governments want to censor our old Internet?

Fine! They can have it because we are building the new one.

Soon we will have two Internets:

-the corporate internet useless, expensive infested with DRM, corporate spies and malwares,

-the people internet who will be useful, fast, free and anonymous.

They can continue to masturbate with the old one trying to rip-off each others as long as they can afford it and can keep for themselves their crappy for pay contents and pay walls all alone.

As far as we, the people are concerned, they are permanently dropped and boycotted for life.

They can die, starving stupidly on the pile of worthless currencies they spend so many years to greedily accumulate at the expense of everyone else but that nobody no longer want to trade anymore!
Rekrul

It really makes me sick the way the entertainment industry seems to think that the world revolves around them.
Pong

I cannot understand this panic gentlemen, I have 2 search modules in FF, one for Isohunt, one for Kickasstorrents, never, ever used Google for this purpose….:)
Devild Advocate

I dont know if this has been posted on torrentfreak before, but in the uk the BPI are pretty powerful, as youtube found out when they had to cencor the UK users from viewing music videos.
It didnt last long, as far as I know its doesnt filter the UK now, but it did, and proves the BPI is already powerful and will take on google AND WIN, just as they did with youtube [for a while].
Devild Advocate

Update,
Youtube still do filter music content for UK users at the ‘request’ of the BPI.
Anonamoose

You slap those little bitches down Google… slap ‘em hard!
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Anonamoose

Google should instantly remove every link that is asociated with any company supporting the BPI from it’s DB.

See how the f*ckers like it when they for all intents and purposes cease to exist.
lee

music is not worth money, hell, i cant even be bothered downloading the garbage for free!!!
four20

belch, oops excuse me. i hungry
natalie

Music is crap
Bob

#20 has this spot on, they only need hire a decent SEO, its not rocket science.
Anon

Great!
Just what we need, more censorship on the internet.
Anonymous

“They suggest that search engines should actively censor their search results, and move links to ‘authorized’ music stores higher up. ”

Easily fixed lol. Buy up google ads, spend tons of cash, you will be at top of search results lol. either way they profit (google lol)
anon2

if only all ISPs, all search engines, all companies and all individuals that do business through the internet had stood up to the entertainment/copyright industries at the outset, this situation would never have existed, let alone gone as far as it has. trouble is, the ‘genie is out of the bottle’ now and it is going to be damn hard, if not almost impossible to put it back! even worse, the whole world is being affected by a few people who will not adapt to change and are allowed to use their vast amounts of money and bought power to further their own aims. how ridiculous is that??
Google-shmoogle

Google is already censoring links that are considered copyright infringing and recently they announced that they’re taking it a step further. This just proves how hypocrite they are, “don’t be evil” my ass. In china they riot against the censorship but in the US they act like dogs obeying their master.
Yawn

Download related searches are only that high on the list coz it’s what people look for the most, and THAT isn’t something they can change lol
Truther

Google has already announced that piracy related content will no longer appear in the auto complete suggestions.

This is unfortunate for Google to do something so wrong when they usually do so much good.
RRico

The British Phonographic Industry is the UK’s main recording industry trade body?
How disgraceful and shameful!!!
Anonymous

http://www.fileserve.com/file/sNnFDpK

USA – Wikileaks
Anonymous

Another search engine from Netherland or some other country will take Google’s place when this happens.
zerepente

nahhh….i don’t use google anyway..
Anonymous

So are they going to take down google’s domain?
lol
eBola

finally they got google :D
frosty

world wide web, that’s becoming a joke.
Anonymous

@59 And others that say i do not use google to search for torrents. IF ALL torrent search engines get removed, we still have google. If google doesn’t work and the torrent search get removed that is a bigger problem.

It is still irrelevant. The second internet is already up and running, floating on top of the old one. And it has been built so that this does not happen again. Complete anonymity, no possible way to censor or backtrace.
neb

2nd internet? wtf are you all talking about? I am telling you, if you have a broadcasting and recieving digital device, you are being monitored, period.
2nd internet. Care to elaborate?
I have been doing this since yesterday. I stayed up all night and red a book on it.
You are a walking ip address.
Me? The Sheriff knows where my door is.
Get real
scarabin

that’s idiotic.

this is like blaming car manufacturers because robbers drove cars to the liquor store they robbed
Peter Kleissner

Why is the music industry not just going the fuck off..
frank

people are going to pirate music. its free and easy. thats life get used to it
To Torrent Freak

Who gives a shit about The British Phonographic Industry.

They can bitch moan and groan all they want. Why even write this article?

If they want to censor it let them take google to court. Which have been just like in the past.

Futile!

Another pointless post by me.

KISS off.
Nameless

oh well, as we all know, google suggestion is based on our behavior ,not google. in other words, the search engine is nothing but a bot showing what ppl are doing. remove such suggestions is equivalent to censor the web, which we dont want it happen. they can say we are doing it “wrong”, but not google, dont blame
Nameless

oh well, as we all know, google suggestion is based on our behavior ,not google. in other words, the search engine is nothing but a bot showing what ppl are doing. remove such suggestions is equivalent to censor the web, which we dont want it happen. they can say that we are doing it “wrong”, but not google, dont blame
neb

nameless. Not true. Google bases the search options on your ip. They already know the geographical location of your hand-held or desk-top. Bud, this is some serious stuff and it aint going to get any better.
Welcome to the warez world. Get it while you can
Muri

Wow, it’s so sad how they are resorting to this. Grasping at straws…that is all it is.
Meow

Wow, it’s so sad how they are resorting to this. Grasping at straws…that is all it is.
Rick

Google IS NOT responsible for the content of the Internet. They only report back a search of the content.

There is no legal reason for Google to be held responsible in any way shape or form for content they DID NOT create.

Music industry, you have a product that people will pay for and do. You just can’t get the price you want for it. Lower your price and people will buy. Look at what iTunes has done!

Just because you have to take a pay cut is not a reason to lash out in desperation. Grow up and join the rest of the world. Sometimes you take a pay cut, not a raise every year.
kriegstreiber

“NUKE HOLLYWOO… oh, wait a minute.”

Where’s all of the 15 year old “British Nationalist” trolls today? :P
pizzaman

Picture with this article = genious
Momba

Google starts to sensor -> less people use Google. Google gets less AD revenue… BAD for Google. VERY bad for Google since search AD revenue is 90+% of their revenue stream.

Somehow I doubt Google will bend… MPAA has been trying for years to shut down youtube and haven’t even made a dent… and that’s content that is actually served by Google.
Anonymous

the harder it is to find piracy, the harder it will be to bust my tracker, so I’m all for it, no longer have to worry whether my tracker will be the next one to get busted
Penciljoke

@ 26

“Thats like blaming a company that makes pencils because people can use it to redraw copyrighted art.”

Schysh! Dont tip them off! ;)
lol

@ 11 & 14

Me too hehehe
Anonymous

I think this has already been pointed out above, but it’s worth saying a few times:

There is a way for your websites to appear prominently in a search: It’s called paying for it. Funny how the industry (pretty much any of them it seems) expects everyone else to shell out money for a service, then act surprised when they have to do the same. Clowns like this need to be dragged around the town square and laughed at.
scrub

These scrubs just keep playing the blame game.

It is the industries fault they cant keep up with technology and make their product more appealing.

I want to do the right thing, i want to pay for my tv…. but i will NOT accept an inferior version (DRM shit, ad’s, being FORCED to watch warnings for something i paid for, wanting my details, tracking my usage, spamming me with shit!) of their product when other options are available. It’s as simple as that.

Spend less time and money trying to “combat” piracy and more time and money making your product and delivery better.
Anonymous

Hahahaha. Hey neostyle, why don’t you tell us again how Google is soooooooo totally different from a torrent site and how it soooooooo totally doesn’t facilitate copyright infringement?

Because the BPI kind of disagrees with you.

Oh man oh man oh man. I hope this results in a court case of Google vs. the copyright industry. ‘Cause Google is rich enough to outbribe the industry and win, which would finally set the precedent that linking to copyrighted material is perfectly legal.

The only question is, will Google fight back or will they roll over and take it like a bitch? They’re certainly arrogant enough to fight anybody and anything, but they also like money. But they’re also very scared of public opinion turning against them. They don’t want to do anything that could jeopardize their search engine monopoly or make handset manufacturers start shunning Android. Can the BPI pay Google enough to make it worthwhile to do their bidding?
neo styles

“Hahahaha. Hey neostyle, why don’t you tell us again how Google is soooooooo totally different from a torrent site”

No comment

“Because the BPI kind of disagrees with you.”

No comment

“The only question is, will Google fight back or will they roll over and take it like a bitch? ”

Sorry no comment
StevO

Google will do whatever they want them to do. Google wants in the game now.
Its already as good as done.
Ninja

Clash of titans! Now comes the real battle. Googles mighty financial muscle or MAFIAA’s cash fist, who will win?

Please, PLEASE take Google to the courts. PLEASE! And let us see you being mercilessly crushed under your own ignorance and greed.

Oh how I’m hoping for a massive lawsuit!

Thank you Mr God for allowing me to witness this epic clash!
FtheMindustry

I hope the media industry takes over the common music file formats, then we can create our own formats and not let them use our files..
f@(5!76 @ssh0l3

@ #33 & #57
I got your votes… Since they want to owned the internet entirely, though they are not the one who invented it lets make another internet…very soon there will be…Let’s see them crawling begging for food when it comes out. Good luck to MAFIAA, MPAA, RIAA, BPI and other b*llsh*t organizations who want to take down our freedom to choose, freedom of speech, and freedom to live.
neb

#99 I agree, at least with the dragimg part;) The fact is, is that (did I say isis?) wonder whom that may be, the money these folks deal with don’t exist. Unless, you do like I did and let google into your bank account. Fortunately ours is a debit. This ain’t no joke folks. If they can cause you harm in your country, it’s just a matter of time before they do us all. What can we do? Keep on keeping on. The last great defying act.
Anonymous

Luckly, Google is big enough to dodge those “callings of censorship”
Will

If google starts censoring search results then they can be sued for first amendment violations in the US.

“On average 17 of the first 20 Google results for singles and 14 of 20 search results for albums were links to known illegal sites.”

So your telling me these sites went to court and were deemed illegal? No, of course not!

Sites should sue them for hurting their image.
ISBN ######

Why not !
Google will stop presenting results for any artist they don’t want searched. So when ever you type Justin….. Blank page
Anonymous

google has prooved to be spinless in the past…
indy

I haven’t read all the comments but it would be trivial to come up with non-pirate terms that still link to pirated media, and a spider would find. Google is well aware of this. Tribler and edonkey and most pop p2p apps search without Google’s help.
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Google factors customer sentiment into the algorithm, so you can have fun with that :)
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T.H.E. S.W.A.R.M.

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Anonymous

I don’t see how google can censor the results. If they blocked the word torrent then change the spelling slightly. I can see and attempt at censorship a complete fail.

This could open the door to a competitor to google. Anyway whether I torrent or download crap or not I will never buy ever so nothing the industry does to stop piracy will ever get a cent from me. The fantasy that piracy is responible for a lot of lost revenue is a fantasy. Piracy is here to stay and all the fight in the world will never stop it.

Just as the war against drugs will never be won the war against piracy will never ever be won
AnarchyNow

And now be ready to become chinese…
Brian

Make your legal content prolific, and Google will reward you. How many sites sell legitimate mp3s?
anon

If Google doesn’t index the torrents then the MPAA wouldn’t be able to find the P2P sites.
okokok

so i actually have to TYPE the word “TORRENT” in? What a gyp! I expect Google to help me pirate by illegal downloads 5 seconds faster! WHATEVER WILL WE DO NOW? OMG!!!!
rt

One thing is piracy and another thing is ignorance and incompetence. Music industry is just continually failing to embrace new business models and adjust its marketing strategies to place their products on the market. That’s what makes sharing sites beat the majors of music industry on search sites like Google. If music industry would rather use its resources to adjust to the ways the music is being consumed and used nowadays, we wouldn’t have to listen to this kind of weeping.
Whatever

Mininova shows the way Google is going. “Cooperation = admission” will be used in court by the MAFIAA.
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Drag0nflamez

This is what I expect the future to be; more Chinese. If that happens, I want to go live on some other planet.

Also, can some torrentfreak guy get rid of those entertainment industry infiltrants on this site – its annoying me.
drak

If I was in charge of Google, I’d go so far the other way it would be hilarious. Why should they have to do extra work for free just because some dinosaurs are “losing” money?

They should combine with a site like pandora and automatically replace any searches for corporate bands with a “Did you mean ” result page. See how BPI handles the sudden drop in advertising (that they now want for free).
Anonymous

Google does not control where these links show up. These links show up at the top by how many people have visited them. Auto complete operates in the same fashion.

It makes you wonder where they hire the people that pursue these issues. They make it blatantly obvious they have no clue what they are talking about every single time they open their mouths.
Eloh

Please Google,

Don’t fall into this trap. Don’t censor anything!!! If they make you censor, they have to make the ENTIRE internetz censor!!!
MrRec

Google will do what MAFIAA wants b/c Google will soon want to use the copyrighted works in future projects and will need to have a good relationship with the entertainment industry to do so. But they will make it look as if they are standing up for free speech, behind closed doors the deal has already been made. Now watch the show.
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horsemeat

I think Google ins response to this should filter both “torrent” and the names of all record labels associated with the BPI from the search results in the UK…

Then set up a new site called boogle or the like and only allow search terms with those things and put a disclaimer on it that you are not it is not to be used in the UK… done
Anonymous

Wouldnt be interesting if Google took the position of eliminating everything involved with Piracy. Sure, we will remove torrents from our search engine but just to be on the safe side, we will also remove any mention of the music industry as well
MD3

I swear I read “The British Pornographic Industry (BPI)” in the title at first time, haha

Poor porn producers, they don’t deserve being confused with that BPI mob.

:D
Harry Ball

BPI is way too small of a player to provoke a giant such as Google.
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BruceLee

Hello!!!! Even if Google start censoring like those bitches. There’s still Baidu.com

Do you think Baidu is going to give a shit to what BPI, RIAA, or anyone else said?

And even if Google is censored. We can just go directly to the real P2P site.
Tomas

If the music industry stops Google auto-suggesting I add “torrent” to the end of my search term, how will I ever think to just type that in myself?

Google are helping people find what the people are looking for. Not suggesting piracy to people who are looking to pirate isn’t really going to have much effect.
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Marius Krinnan

“blaming Google and other search engines for being a main source for online piracy.”

I only need to point out ONE word in that sentence to destroy their argument completely.
Google is not a source. It links to sources, but it is not a source.
Anonymous

and you all know htat you can get your own spider search engine and let it run and find htis stuff yourselves and to hell with google( CIAware ) and MPAA etc…
in future we cold change extensions and you’d never know what the hell….
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random pirate

Dear google.
I hope you won’t give up on us, I hope you won’t surrender.
You have the power to fight for us, but also for your sake.
Remove the torrents from the search, you lose the game in a second.
I wanna see another tab in google’s page!
Google web / Google images / Google video / Google torrents.
just a filtering of the extension of files. Is it illegal? Are all .torrent files illegal? I don’t think so! Go for it!
Herp Derp

If Google starts pushing “authorised” music stores higher up in searches for music, then we’ll just go to page 3 or 4 for the torrents. ;)
steve

they should also get people to follow everyone around, and punch us in the mouth if we say the word download, torrent, sharing, ect.
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Anonymous

Salright. Google went evil. Would be nice for their search to become useless and let the next guy who can design a killer effective search engine take over for a bit. Maybe they can not be evil a bit longer.
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Nathan

It’s so sad that we have to lose our freedoms just to protect corporate interest.
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kocka

I don’t think Google will survive if the start to censor search results.

Free information
Organized information

let’s close the library, the Digital library

Just PAY for your result instead of paying a lawyer pay Google i think Google is cheaper and the results will come faster :D

Let the artists fight for copyright not the Music labels aaaa wait if they do it people will put them aside forget about them.

Lets fight for the people starving, dieing, lets do some good for one and other
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Anonymous

and if i were google id pick up and leave the usa OH wait the cia partners would not like that
Anonymous

http://www.sphider.eu/
Audrey

If anyone wants to start a torrent site I got 2 domains I want to sell:
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=2035974
Anonymous

Let’s shutdown Google LOL
MrSpeakerGetsTheWord

BPI follows RIAA.

It is the RIAA who want to destroy Google, not only for piracy reasons, but also for political reasons.

RIAA has shown their hand too much in attacking Google. It is becoming a vendetta. Now BPI is their proxy so that they can appear unconnected.

RIAA/MPAA want to destroy Google as a competitive threat.
chazz

Seeing as there are very easy alternatives to Google to find torrents, attacking Google would at best just be a very minor inconvenience! However except for paedophile, bestial, blastphemus and extreme violent sites and torrents, I am TOTALLY against ANY OTHER FORM OF CENSORSHIP. I and tens if not thousands of millions of people worldwide SHARE WHATEVER DIGITAL MEDIA WE LIKE and a few sordid (and very rich)companies aren’t going to get very far!!!! I’s a bit like an ant trying to bite a crocodile or elephant!!!!
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Andy

I read half of the article only to realize that it’s ‘phonographic’ rather than ‘pornographic’. Does that mean that there’s something wrong with me? :)
Anonymous

Google needs to be shut down. It is only good for finding illegal files.
stinkpipe

censoring results began a long time ago. google will lose out to other better search engines. pandering to lawyers looks weird from europe. how far this goes will depend on a parallel internet being created either within this framework or as a wireless free entity. either way films/books/songs etc will always be sold on or shared by a medium that is untaxable and royalties free. so get used to it, the only gainers in this fight are the fat cats, let them all fight it out and we will still be here, one step ahead laughing
Pierre Dowing

Speaking of BPI, it might interest you to know a few other statistics that I found pretty interesting. Anyway, here’s the post, if you’re interested: http://www.pressdisplay.com/pressdisplay/showlink.aspx?bookmarkid=6R6S317G7JM7&preview=article&linkid=ed034cbf-92f3-41fb-b488-f1b72e7ee62a&pdaffid=ZVFwBG5jk4Kvl9OaBJc5%2bg%3d%3d

Hope this helps :]
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