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Recording Industry Steps Back From Piracy Disconnections

In the wake of the UN report which described disconnecting citizens from the Internet as a breach of human rights, an anti-piracy group has made a somewhat surprising statement. Music Industry Piracy Investigations, which acts for dozens of labels including the Big Four, today said that while they support measures for dealing with infringement, that does not include “termination of Internet accounts.”

As detailed last week, a new report from the UN has heavily criticized the notion of disconnecting Internet subscribers on the basis that they may have breached music or movie copyrights.

In his report, Special Rapporteur Frank La Rue said that he considers “cutting off users from Internet access, regardless of the justification provided, including on the grounds of violating intellectual property rights law, to be disproportionate and thus a violation of article 19, paragraph 3, of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.”

La Rue then went on to appeal to countries such as the UK and France who have already adopted legislation with such measures to either repeal or amend their laws.

Now, just a couple of working days on, a surprise statement has been made by MIPI, Australia’s Music Industry Piracy Investigations.

Speaking with SMH, MIPI general manager Sabiene Heindl, today said that while MIPI supports “mitigation measures” for dealing with persistent illegal file-sharers, “such measures would not include termination of Internet accounts.”

Heindl’s statement represents quite a turnaround for the recording industry. MIPI has dozens of member labels on board – including the all-important EMI, Universal, Warner and Sony – and although delivered in Australia, it would be difficult to see how the Big Four could pursue different anti-piracy strategies in major markets elsewhere.

So does this announcement represent the beginning of a wider softening of attitudes, or will a more gentle strategy be pursued in Australia in parallel with tougher ones elsewhere?

We contacted the BPI in the UK, who also have the Big Four on board and have been outspoken supporters of “3 strikes”-style treatment for persistent file-sharers, to find out what the UN report and today’s MIPI statement means for them. At the time of publication we were yet to receive a response.

UK ISP TalkTalk, who together with BT are currently fighting the implementation of the Digital Economy Act, told TorrentFreak this afternoon that they read the UN report with interest and noted its comments on the Digital Economy Act.

“Our views on the Act are well known – we don’t think it’s a workable piece of legislation or a sensible way to tackle the problem of illegal filesharing, and it will simply punish innocent internet users,” said a TalkTalk spokesperson. “That’s why we’re seeking leave to appeal against the High Court’s ruling, handed down in April, on the judicial review into the Act.”

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  • Anon

    Sounds to me like companies using words of rhetoric to make themselves look better

    It looks better for them if they have the governments do the dirty work… then just go along with it while publicly claiming it’s bad

    • http://otester.myopenid.com/ PiRat

      Beat me to it.

      • Anonymous

        How do you think these government representatives will respond to being lobbied to do dirt then being condemned for it by the same people who payed them to do it?

        • http://identi.ca/LauRoman Lauren?iu Roman

          They got their money, do you think they really care? The general public doesn’t really care when a government official steppes down from a public position to lobby for the companies she was supposed to regulate.

    • Anon

      Probably you are right it is just lip service. But fines are a better deterrant and more profitable for everyone anyway. If you can institute a speeding ticket type system where it’s three-strikes-get-fined, everyone makes money. The ISPs keep their subscribers. And the IP owners get paid, as many times as you keep infringing.

      The new New Zealand law works on this principle and I really think it is ideal, as far as anti-piracy law is concerned.

      • Anonymous

        If only the artists saw a dime of it.

        I believe iTunes, Netflix and Youtube have proven that punishing the users isn’t the way.

        • I am a sausage not a hotdog

          How does youtube punish users when they have to comply with id tags enforced by the industry.They only try protecting users and themselves from being sued by these corp-rats.As far as netflix and itunes are concerned they suck balls.If you’ve ever heard of youtube partnership program it’s what pays the artist it’s what pays me too!! Fuck labels… :)

      • Jimbo

        what would be even better is if the entertainment companies allowed people to download their stuff at sensible speeds, drm free, in any format wanted and at sensible prices. make the most of the latest technologies to earn even more money than they have been up to now. that would be progressive thinking on their part, but i suppose it is too much for them to realise that doing things the way they are will, eventually, kill themselves off. hurting your customers will inevitably hurt you!

      • http://otester.myopenid.com/ PiRat

        IPR = Tyranny.

        Are you a nazi?

        • Blackplan

          Invoking Godwin’s Law

      • Anonymous

        The New Zealand law has a disconnection clause actually, not fines. 3 strikes, you’re out. Not ideal. Not in the bloody slightest.

    • I am a sausage not a hotdog

      They’ll try anything to be the good guys! But continue suing people!! The industry is not something you can trust.Plain and simple…To the industry adapt or go fuck yourself.

    • I am a sausage not a hotdog

      They’ll try anything to be the good guys! But continue suing people!! The industry is not something you can trust.Plain and simple…To the industry adapt or go fuck yourself.

    • Anonymous

      No, they are planning to send people to jail instead of turning off the internet
      http://www.thegauntlet.com/article/1225/21865/Embed-A-Music-Youtube-Video-The-RIAA-Wants-To-See-You-In-Jail-For-That

    • Anonymous

      No, they are planning to send people to jail instead of turning off the internet
      http://www.thegauntlet.com/article/1225/21865/Embed-A-Music-Youtube-Video-The-RIAA-Wants-To-See-You-In-Jail-For-That

  • Hmm

    stuff their stupid laws carry on regardless

  • Davecarth

    they must learn making more money each year whilst pretending their really hurt by this needs to stop.

    they should be in front of huge explaining why they violate peoples human-rights.

    music was around before these pratts tried to monetise it.

    they had a good 100 years

    then the internet came freeing arts once again from the coffers of these idiots. time to move on.

    • Davecarth

      *hauge

    • Noah C.

      Monetizing music has been around for centuries, and don’t act like it hasn’t.

      It’s a fact, music is expression, and music is wholly the audible conception of emotion. But, Professional Musicians need a way to make money other than playing live. I’m a musician, and I need to make money.

      It’s an awkward position for me to be in. I don’t like it.

      On another note, you should see John Philip Sousa’s opinion on recorded music. Interesting.

      • Maxime

        “I’m a musician, and I need to make money.”

        That’s where you are wrong. If you’re in it for the money, you better just stop now.

        • Yourmom

          you need to realize that most musician are not in it only for the money , they really love what they do , ( sure some fucker do that for the sole reason of money but those are the big in of the mpaa ,and the rappers )

          but really they do need some way to make money out of their art , i dont think a musician see himself working in a pizza hut for the rest of his life because he choose to do a major in music instead of a major in computer.

          if look in the medieval ages musician were mostly travelers doing music for some money to live (bard , musician ,etc ) and the only way most musician had to make a buttload of money was to work for a king or ppl like that , other than that most musician were really poor , yes there were way to do money in those time , but i dont think that anyone want to see himslef poor has shit his whole life

          overall , the mpaa are a bunch of jackasses that need to die BUT artist do need some way to make money out of their art

        • Anonymous

          @Yourmom
          Well i have to work at pizza hut my whole life because i chose to go to art school (bachelor education) and be a sculpter / painter. Pictures of my work can go around the web even easier. I don’t get these ridiculous amounts of money, billion dollar companies forcing governments to make laws for them. If i’m lucky i’ll get famous when i’m dead… How is that any different from your music? Why do you think the rules are different for you?

        • Noah C.

          Okay then, I’ll just play music on the street and hope I have enough money by the end of the day to eat a meal then!

          No, I’m not in it for the money, I’m in it for the art, but if this is my career I DO need money to eat, have a home, etc., just as any other person needs. Being a musician doesn’t make me relieved from the rules of life.

        • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

          Dear Noah, check out for Paulo Coelho’s blog. There’s a reason to why he makes shitloads of money. And this reason is your argument flaw.

          Paulo Coelho decided to write despite criticism from family and friends. He decided to write for love, for the desire of writing, not for money. And then money came anyway.

          Maybe you should first do whatever for a living and music for hobby. Then maybe, in the future, you can actually switch to living from your earnings on music.

      • Anonymous

        Advertising on your youtube channel and website + donations, posters, t-shirts and sales of real albums for people that want the whole thing. Air-time on the radio and tv ect. Sounds like plenty options to me. You even get free advertising via torrents if your work is good enough to get a little popular.

        • Jj

          “you need to realize that most musician are not in it only for the money”

          Such inocence trololol

        • Jj

          “you need to realize that most musician are not in it only for the money”

          Such inocence trololol

  • Anonymous

    Public opinion is a great thing…… (also Civil and Political Rights)

    Let the backstepping commence….

  • http://www.facebook.com/eric.boehm Jack Murdock

    Yeah, now that we know that getting free things is a human right, i guess we can all throw away our cash! Heck, why stop there? The internet age has obviously antiquated payment and compensation, right? So lets get rid of those silly banks too! Our economy could be based on oompa loompas! Think about it!

    I guess they don’t realize that, while freedom is a human right, we have these things called laws. You can’t run a red light and claim that you were just exercising your human rights. This is just an excuse to be lazy. I promise you that going out of your house and going to the store won’t kill you. It’s just sunlight.

    • Momo

      You can’t jack up copyright to 150 years and then claim it’s your human right to “own” it. Fuck off, jackass.

    • Anonymous

      How did you jump to ‘getting free things is a human right’? Pirating things is still illegal whilst disconnecting people is not it’s pretty fucking simple

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_CWIVSWZ2XUDUMLEH6OG7EEVK4E S C

      we will get rid of those silly banks once Bitcoins become common.

    • http://otester.myopenid.com/ PiRat

      Click on his name, just some troll playing you all, not really a Murdock…

    • Josh

      From Star Trek: First Contact:

      Captain Jean-Luc Picard: The economics of the future is somewhat different. You see, money doesn’t exist in the 24th century.
      Lily Sloane: No money? You mean, you don’t get paid?
      Captain Jean-Luc Picard: We work to better ourselves.

      Taken from http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117731/quotes

      • http://www.facebook.com/jordan.kratz Jordan Kratz

        Would be a nice place to live in if our civilization ever gets there but that is doubtful.

        Oh and last ly
        FUCK YOU MAFIAA !!!

      • Spock

        We will likely blow ourselves all to fuck before we ever see this kind of human attitude!

      • Guest

        Yeah, but they had those machines that could instantly create anything. That was kind of important.

    • Anonymous

      a) Free access to worthless information should be a human right….

      If someone invested 10 trillion dollars to make the worthless information……..well..
      They are the fools……..
      “”payment and compensation”" for creating worthless goods is….. ?

      b) Money is NOT the same as information….. we have been over this stupid comparison before Jack.
      Copying information for personal use is not the same.

      finally Jack….

      Law is obeyed if it makes sense…… billions of people break copyright laws every day……. Either Billions of people are criminals…. or … the copyright laws don’t make sense.

      • http://www.facebook.com/eric.boehm Jack Murdock

        Oooh a guy fawkes mask! Scaaaaryy!

        “a) Free access to worthless information should be a human right…. ”
        It’s not information. Do you even know what information is? Information is what’s on wikipedia. As for worthless, are you a moron? Something that is sought by untold millions of people every day isn’t worthless. It’s obviously of great value to the masses, hene it has enormous value. The only differnce is that people aren’t willing to contribute to that which they enjoy.

        “If someone invested 10 trillion dollars to make the worthless information……..well..
        They are the fools……..”
        Ok, captain freetard. Let’s see you make movie for nothing. I assume you have created many things.. since you obviously have figured out a much better way of doing it. Where can I view your latest cinematic masterpiece? Why hasn’t hollywood discovered your creative genius yet? For shame!

        “Copying information for personal use is not the same.”
        Re branding multi million dollar movies with innocent terms such as “information” makes it much easier to justify not paying the creators I guess. Helps to easy your conscience or something. Profiting off of others work is worse I suppose, but either way the rights holders dont get paid for their investment.

        “Law is obeyed if it makes sense…… billions of people break copyright laws every day……. Either Billions of people are criminals…. or … the copyright laws don’t make sense.”
        Way to inflate things, guy. TPB is the biggest site by far and they have 15-20 million users. At max, there are there 30 million pirates. Besides, over 500.000 murders were committed in 2009. Does that mean that laws against murder are unjust? Slavery was very popular in the 1800s. Does that make it ok? Honestly, that is the dumbest excuse i think I have ever seen.

        • Anonymous

          Crap …… you don’t find my avatar scary….. ( vendetta?mask )

          I’ll go do a photo of a fugly fuck in a shadow….. is scarier.
          ( shit….your using that avatar )

          ——————————————————————-
          a)
          It IS information.. Digital information…. An ACTUAL number…
          Really a movie (digital) file is just a fuking number. That’s all it is….. FACT

          If it can be copied endlessly at near zero cost … it is worthless…YOUR opinions OR mine CAN’T change that FACT.. that’s just physical reality….

          ——————————————————————-
          “”Ok, captain freetard. Let’s see you make movie for nothing. .”"

          Now you are twisting my words to conclusions that I never stated , in an attempt to win the unobtainable argument…..

          Make movies… spend millions doing so…..
          SELL movie experiences…. NOT information that can be copied endlessly……
          Don’t sell DVD’s…..

          OMG…. imagine that…. movies in a movie theatre…… ffs how revolutionary……

          YET thats how easy it would be….. just release the movies in theatres only…
          SELL experiences….

          WHAT RETARD ? would invest millions on something that can be copied endlessly ? seriously….
          C’mon Jack …. we disagree about copyright “”laws”" , but ffs…. How is investing millions on something that can be copied endlessly … a good business model ?
          ——————————————————————-
          “”Way to inflate things”" , “”At max, 30 million pirates”".

          AGAIN JACK…. ignoring what I said…. jumping to your own conclusions…..

          I said….”"billions of people break copyright laws every day“”

          They do…. every time a tv / radio show is recorded , every time you copy and paste text, the whole web is basically a “copyright infringement.”
          EVERY FUCKING TIME YOU SING HAPPY BIRTHDAY @ a party.
          The list goes on and on……

          singing happy birthday at a party = criminal copyright infringement…
          Does it make sense….. ?

          if you can’t take your own head out of the sand …..and take a look around then…. you really should stick your head up your own arse…. just to smell the shit you are talking out of it……

          ——————————————————————-
          Slavery was very popular in the 1800s. Does that make it ok?

          OH fuck….
          Slavery … you are trying to equate copying …… copying ffs… with slavery…
          Nevermind…. that I never tried once , to justify copying by saying….
          ” it’s ok because lot’s of others do it” ( the lemming defence )

          That is a stupid justification for most things…. And filesharers don’t need it…..

          Honestly, that is the weakest trolling session you have ever produced Jack….

          Jack off…. Jack … U… Jack off

    • Anonymous

      awww …. Jack is pissed….

      • http://www.facebook.com/eric.boehm Jack Murdock

        Yeah, if I didn’t reply in 5 minutes, it’s because I have a life outside of my computer. I dont sit in a dark room hitting refresh every few minutes.

        • Anonymous

          Your avatar would suggest otherwise….

        • Anonymous

          You do? Then why are you hanging out here? Btw, did you pay that $585.57 fine yet?

    • Zzzzz

      Well that heap of stupidity dispells some peoples theory that you work as an exec for the movie or music industries.

      I guess you could still be that stupid and hold down a job as a cleaner for them though.

    • Woo

      although there are things called laws, they are supposed to be for the good of the majority, not just for the good of a few antiquated corporations and execs, that refuse to join the rest of the world in the 21st century!

    • Noah C.

      Jack, please stop. Just… stop trolling. People hate you. Everyone hates you. EVERYBODY.

      On a more intelligent note and one that I expressed on an earlier comment:

      Musicians need to make money somehow. I acknowledge that, mainly because I’m a musician. However, groups like the RIAA and MPAA are flat out EVIL.

      I’ll stop there.

    • Anonymous

      You see, you just proved how stupid you are (and I hate having to insult people online but in your case it’s justified). The U.N. DID NOT say “getting free things is a human right”, they said “internet access is a human right”. As in it allows people to communicate and get information freely. Comparable to “free speech” and “gathering peacefully”. All the U.N. is saying is that people have a right to speak to each other and get information. That it is wrong to disconnect them from the internet/prohibit access. As in countries that are turning off the internet to prevent people from finding out about what’s going on (see Egypt recently for a good example) or France’s 3 strike law (which is rather excessive as far as punishment fitting the crime goes).

      And we do have things called laws, but those laws are for the benefit of everyone. Not just a handful of corporations/groups who directly profit from them. Those aren’t laws. Those are a farce and as such should not be adhered to. Lobbying the government to get help to benefit your dying industry does not make it a law I want to follow.

      You’re seriously the most hated person here. It’s kind of amusing/pathetic. If you were reasonable and logical maybe I’d feel bad for you. But you aren’t and as such I don’t. Why don’t you just get lost already? And not once have you replied to someone who didn’t reply to you with a “weak argument”. If you can’t debate a point with someone you’re just admitting defeat and that you’re wrong and know it (as you’ve said about the rest of us). So get lost if that’s the case.

      • http://www.facebook.com/eric.boehm Jack Murdock

        Well I guess not everyone is fast. Some people need things to be spoon fed to them, so here you go.. If someone is disconnected, it would be only because they are using their internet to get free things and disconnecting them would prevent them from doing so. By opposing disconnects, they are ensuring that said people are guaranteed a steady stream of free things.

        “And we do have things called laws, but those laws are for the benefit of everyone. Not just a handful of corporations/groups who directly profit from them. Those aren’t laws. Those are a farce and as such should not be adhered to. Lobbying the government to get help to benefit your dying industry does not make it a law I want to follow.”
        Uhm, you seem to have conveniently left the artists out of your picture. Artists also benefit from copyright too you know. Plus, these corporations which you label with you paint as being nefarious are made up of people too. “Evil corporations” is the most overused and baseless talking point that pirates use.

        • Noah C.

          It’s one thing to call all corporation evil.

          It’s another to call an evil corporation evil, too.

          In this case, the RIAA is evil. How? They steal the same money that was already “stolen” from the artist in the first place. They don’t give ANY of the money the earn from these Lawsuits to the artists, but instead use it for litigation purposes. So, in this, the artists lose double the money, if your (most likely) opinion of a “lost sale” and “stealing” from an artist is right.

        • Anonymous

          Oh you want to discuss artists do you? How much money if any has been turned over to the artists from the lawsuits that have been won? How much money goes to an artists per album sold? What $1 or so if that? The reason I left out artists from what I said is because artists don’t come into play when it comes to discussing copyrights. They don’t own squat. The labels are the ones behind copyright and groups like the MPAA/RIAA. They benefit, not the artists. You always go on and on about the artists,but the truth is they gain nothing from any of this. If anything they lose when people hear about a grandmother being sued, why? Because people say “oh well Lady Gaga sues grandmothers now for downloading a song, so f*ck Lady Gaga”. No sir, you’re wrong bringing up the artists, you’re just trying to get sympathy and make it seem like you care about them. But if you did you wouldn’t support the RIAA/MPAA and their copyright crusade. Because they screw the artists way more than any file sharer ever could.

          Oh and you want to talk points. Where did I call any of these corporations “evil”? Reread what I wrote you tool. Nowhere will you find the word “evil” in what I wrote. You fail at putting words into my mouth. As is evidenced by what I did say. It’s nice to see you riled up though. I guess I’d be pissed if I got called out time and time again and didn’t back it up. Then I’d launch into a little rant that still fails.

          And this has nothing to do with free things. You want to spin it as the U.N. is saying “everybody steal” fine, but that’s not the case. They’re against disconnects to keep people in the loop. People in Egypt, Iraq, etc. To learn about events going on in their own countries. Because their are leaders who use disconnects to deny the people knowledge and to keep them from speaking out. People have a right to free speech. Disconnecting them from the internet would violate that. Why? Because it is a place to freely speak your mind. As is evidenced by you being able to speak the “pendejadas” that you do. Also, you assume that because they are disconnected they downloaded something illegally. Guess what? People make mistakes. Or have you forgotten the incident where university printers in Washington were on a list of “infringing IP addresses”? Yeah those bad printers really downloaded all that stuff! Idiot. The IP gathering abilities and detections have been proven numerous times to be fallible and the people running them just as bad. So no, just cause someone is disconnected DOES NOT mean they did anything wrong. You want that spoon fed for you Jack Moron? Okay, here goes. Disconnect DOES NOT equal to clear wrong doing. Mistakes happen.

          Care to try again? So I can tear apart whatever it is you say next.

    • Guest

      Can I just say something to everyone who is replying to Jack? You all jump on him and give him all of your attention because he is an easy target, but as soon as soon as someone who makes a legitimate point in favor of copyright law, there’s only one or two of you who respond. I know it’s fun to pick on an easy target, but please spend your time talking to someone other than Jack.

  • DuellistOrigins

    What do you reckon the odds of getting a reply are? Surely the various industry firms aren’t going to speak to people so obviously biased.
    NB: I’m on your side, but you’re hardly known for impartial reporting.

    • Anonymous

      Most news services are biased in one form or another.

      I am sure the BPI know that if they replied to still support disconnections that the TF readers, and even more general society, would not be kind to them. Their best option is to sweep it under the rug and pretend it did not happen.

      I dont think that question is very important when it is no longer a good policy to persue. A much more important question would be how now does the BPI intend to deal with the millions of people who infringe their member’s music?

      They have yet to offer a workable answer.

  • Nevermind

    Anyway it does not matter. We are going to kill all these corporations of entertainment parasites. Right now this is Sony turn.

    Let’s Kill them all!

    • Anonymous

      Sony only need two words… George Hotz.

      Big mistake to litigate a hacker who has many hacker friends. What with public access then Sony cant keep them out. Best not annoy.

  • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

    MIPI, MAFIAA, MPAA, RIAA, BPI, IFPI, FACT, HADOPI or whoever – they’re all just a bunch of fascists, liars and cheats whose fevered and frenzied pursuit of profit is the ultimate goal regardless of life, liberty or the freedoms and human rights we currently have and fought hard to obtain.

    They’ve been ripping us all off for decades and they lie to Police to get a search warrant to rape your home and property.

    Trustworthy, credible bunch of people? I don’t think so.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FCNK7C55CBUYFVSC5LNWKB322E Buglord

      not that it is a fact, but I think nature said nearly the exact same thing about humans a long time ago… well, nature is still saying it..

    • http://www.facebook.com/eric.boehm Jack Murdock

      Pirates – they’re all just a bunch of lazy, ungrateful, selfish, brats who’s insatiable appetite for free entertainment is the ultimate goal regardless of well.. everything and everyone else really. It’s amusing how monumental historical events such as the revolutionary war are equated with a bunch of people trying to change the world from their parents basement. Every time you compared yourself to the thousands of brave souls who fought and died to win independence, you are just embarrassing yourself. When the founding fathers gave us freedom, I doubt they ever thought it would be used an excuse to defraud people. They must be rolling in their graves right now.

      Also, please explain how the entertainment industry has been ripping you off? They are giving you entertainment in spite of the fact that people like you refuse to contribute a single cent. How you can call them fascists is beyond me. They keep giving in spite of the fact that people only seem to be interested in taking without saying thanks.

      If you really think that not having any free things makes you like the people who suffered under the REAL facist regime… You are a moron. Have you ever been out of your house?

      Holocaust survivor : They made me do hard labor for the whole day with hardly any food or sleep

      Pirate : they took away my favorite torrent site so i couldn’t get my favorite free movie.

      ……………………….

      • Anonymous

        Call Sign: KB3DIZ

      • Jon7272

        THANKYOU for my free stuff there you go i said thankyou hehehe

      • third_world_guy

        Not a single person in entertainment industry is doing it FOR the LOVE except may be for few artists, so yah dont BS me about how these people give us mortals the FUN of entertainment. Also from your statistic above in comment, only few million people do piracy REST of the world ( say some dont have entertainment) pay for the entertainment and thus THESE greeedy corps get paid a LOT….

        The next thing is yes it is not comparable to war as a Physical war as such, but this is comprable to war since its GREEDY people against people who wants Freedom against greed !! FIGHT ON GO SOMALIA!!!!

      • Anonymous

        Why are you here?

        • Spock

          “You aren’t even giving remotely constructive criticism. You’re acting like a total PAID troll.”

          There, fixed it for you!

      • http://disqus.com/ Rob8urcakes

        lol, what you rambling on about now Jack? Is this your “bad week”?
        And then you want me to explain the obvious? OK, I shall.
        DEFINITION of ‘troll’ – usually a persistent nuisance who posts on news threads with disruptive lies, comments and warped observations of truth and fairness.

        Does that assist you Jack?

      • Ppb642

        Hi Jack. I would just like to make you aware of something. Pirates actually contribute a large amount to the entertainment industry. Since seeing all the stuff that is available for download on torrent sites i have been made aware of a huge, huge range of material that i would not otherwise have ever known about. Thus because of this awereness i spend a far larger proportion of my income on entertainment than ever before. I dont feel the slightest bit guilty for downloading add free TV series, or the odd movie that i would never go and watch at the cinema because i have contributed so much toward the entertainment industry already. An industry which if you guys were able to do your accounting effectively you would realise the very pirates you are looking to disconnect make up the large majority of your income.

        I would also just like to ask you if there is any chance of you any time now or in the future where you will actually see someone else’s argument and maybe concede that they might have a valid point. I just find your inability to sway from your viewpoint a little disturbing to say the least.

        • Guest

          Do you really find his inability to change his mind that disturbing? Really, do you? We’re no different. Jack could come here sounding like Stephen Hawking and give a golden wondrous argument in favor of copyright, and we wouldn’t listen to him. There’s really nothing anyone could say that could convince any of us, so don’t use that as a point to attack Jack. Most of us won’t change our minds once they are made up. We’re not different from him on that. We’re different from him in that we’re usually more polite and we have better arguments, but no matter what anyone says in favor of copyright, we wouldn’t be swayed.

  • Trespass

    Of course they don’t want connections off for people that share. Maybe they can catch you again and sue for 5 trillion dollars.

    That Limewire thing continues to boggle my mind…. Idiots, all of them…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Duncan/644177663 David Duncan

    It must be a very cold day ‘down under’ … and I’m not talking about Australia

    Seriously, Kudos for pulling back from an unjust & unworkable approach … now lets see if this get’s applied to the rest of the world, even France!

  • Anonymous

    Well that jsut doesnt make any sense at all dude.
    total-privacy.no.tc

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  • Lee

    I will reiterate, commerce sector activities are governed by commerce policy; there is no indication that commerce media entertained in an entertainment context is not a commerce application.

  • R.

    Australia’s situation is somewhat weird. The government is beholden to the US, so our copyright provisions tend to mirror theirs. But everyone tends to forget about us, so most commercial media (e.g. tv shows, movies) isn’t available until long after the US, which leads everyone to pirate it. But because we’re forgotten about, so far no one has attempted to sue individual file sharers en masse here before.
    I suspect this is largely because the media cartels are much less influential down here, coupled with the fact that our judges would likely take a much dimmer view of an abuse of the courts like that.

  • Anonymous

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  • Spock

    IF any of the media groups give a shit about what the UN has to say then this is a step in the right direction. (no Jack Im not saying for free stuff!)
    For too long now our freedoms and rights have been trampled for the sake of greed based marketing and control of IP. Simply put, America is no longer the land of the free, but step on us enough times and you might just see us get back to being the home of the brave!

  • wizz

    As far as I remember the Australians invoked the german way of dealing with file sharing as a new method, which is as bad as a 3-strikes.

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