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RIAA: BitTorrent Sites and Cyberlockers Should Filter Proactively

The RIAA has submitted a new list of “notorious websites” to the U.S. Government, sites that the labels would like to see disappear . The list includes all major torrent sites, cyberlockers such as RapidShare, and so-called linking sites. The music group acknowledges that most sites respond to takedown requests, but says it’s tired of playing “cat and mouse” with the site’s users who simply re-upload the infringing files.

In a response to a request from the Office of the US Trade Representative (USTR) in August, the RIAA has submitted its list of “notorious markets” for 2012.

The RIAA and other rightsholders compile this list every year and not without success. The music group credits the Government’s efforts as contributing to the demise of BTJunkie, Demonoid, Megaupload and other ‘pirate’ sites.

“We want to take a moment to reflect on the fact that thanks in large part to the efforts of the US Government in highlighting illicit practices, some of the notorious markets that we identified in last year’s submission no longer feature in this filing,” the RIAA’s Neil Turkewitz begins.

But despite these successes, the piracy problem isn’t going away.

The record labels have therefore compiled a new list of “notorious” websites which they say profit from direct or indirect copyright infringement. The list zooms in on several file-sharing portals including BitTorrent sites described as “high priority pirate markets.”

The RIAA admits that many of the popular BitTorrent sites do take links down when they are asked to, but these takedown requests don’t have the desired effect as the content can simply be re-uploaded by the site’s users.

“One of the principal problems with the use of take down notices for BitTorrent indexing sites is that the same infringing material can easily be, and usually is, very quickly reposted to the site,” RIAA writes.

This issue is complicated further by the existence of many similar files under different URLs. The RIAA wants to end this ongoing “cat and mouse” game and would like BitTorrent sites to take proactive measures to ensure that infringing files are not added to their service to begin with.

“As a result, copyright owners are forced into an endless ‘cat and mouse’ game, which requires considerable resources to be devoted to chasing infringing content, only for that same infringing content to continually reappear.”

“For that reason, BitTorrent site operators should take proactive measures to stop indexing torrents,” RIAA writes, hinting at automatic filters of infringing files.

The worst offending BitTorrent sites according to the RIAA are The Pirate Bay, isoHunt, Torrentz, KickassTorrents, BitSnoop, SumoTorrent, Torrenthound, BTMon, ExtraTorrent, Fenopy, LimeTorrents and TorrentReactor.

The Pirate Bay is reported as particularly problematic, and it’s one of the few sites that does not respond to take down requests from copyright holders. The RIAA further informs the Government that the site continues to operate despite criminal convictions against its former operators.

“Despite the final criminal convictions and successful civil litigation in Sweden, the site is still active and thought to be the most popular BitTorrent site in the world, with nearly 6 million registered users uploading and making content available to over 26 million users. The world’s most popular films and music can be instantly downloaded via the service,” the RIAA writes.

Interestingly, the RIAA also says that it’s monitoring the use of a free VPN service that was supposedly launched by The Pirate Bay earlier this year, not realizing that it was merely an advertisement.

“In August 2012, it was reported that The Pirate Bay had launched a new ad-supported VPN service, PrivitizeVPN, the purpose of which is to enable users to ‘cloak’ their IP address when using file sharing services to make enforcement more difficult. This service is in its early stage and usage is being monitored.”

Besides BitTorrent sites the RIAA also lists several linking sites and cyberlockers as piracy havens. The appearance of RapidShare is most surprising as the Swiss cyberlocker has undertaken tremendous efforts to curb piracy in recent months.

The RIAA suggests that the owners of cyberlockers should proactively filter infringing files as well, in addition to responding to take down requests. The group points out that some services do this already, naming Hulkshare as an example.

“To a limited extent, rights holders can begin to tackle these infringements through take down notices sent to the locker service provider. However, rights holders cannot locate content stored on a locker service unless and until it is made available to the public – which is done via a third-party link,” RIAA writes.

“The locker service itself would clearly be better placed to locate infringing content on its own servers (there are technologies available that would assist) and to take appropriate action,” they add.

While not stated specifically, it appears that the RIAA views all file-hosting and sharing sites as piracy havens unless they employ a proactive filtering mechanism. This is in line with the music industry’s global anti-piracy strategy which leaked a few months ago.

In the coming month the Office of the US Trade Representative is expected to publish its own overview of notorious markets. This review is expected to include many of the sites mentioned above.

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  • YourMom

    Giggle…good luck morons.

    • damian

      RIAA USA and all greed stupid morons trolls let me know DO YOU REALLY BELIVE YOU WILL WIN AND STOP PIRACY WHEN YOU FIGHT AGAINST MILLIONS PEOPLE (MAYBE MORE THEN 70% INTERNET USERS ) ?

      IF YOU SAY YES MEAN YOU REALLY ARE VERY VERY STUPID , UTOPIC ,OUT OF REALITY !

      IF YOU SAY NO MEAN YOU ARE VERY STUPID BECOUSE YOU SPEND BILLIONS IN THIS FIGHT TO REALIZE YOU WILL NEVER WIN AGAINST DESIRE OF MASS PEOPLE ( NOBODY UNTIL NOW WIN AGAINST BILLIONS PEOPLE SO ITS WONDER HOW CAN SOMBODY BELIVE THIS COULD BE POSSIBLE )

      • Anyone

        your keyboard is broken

        • Damian

          yeap my keyboard is broken but not my mind !!! my keyboard it is the problem mr anyone ? really that all you understand or you see ? im not wondered why world is fullwith stupid fool people

        • Anyone

          posts in capslock are generally not worth reading
          fix your keyboard if you want to be taken seriously

        • http://twitter.com/superheromail superheromail

          Posts in cap locks I saw a joke about that the other day and it had something to do with people whom still use AOL.

          superheromail.com

        • Wash

          People like Anyone still waste their time with that nonsense?

      • JohnGaspardo

        My eyes are bleeding from reading that. Thanks… a…… LOT

      • ScrewEwe2

        Don’t shout. Caps tend to piss people off, not make them listen. ?¿?

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        • Guest

          How did you get disqus to preserve the word wrap formatting?

    • Predator

      Don’t worry about that because we just receive a fresh list of infamous corporate parasites and criminals that the people would like to see disappear and we are working on it right now.

    • Bananas

      i think they don’t know something called privacy…like you have in the telephone, letters, bank accounts….why the hell would the internet be different

      • Ophelia Millais

        You don’t have as much privacy in those things as you think.

        And as long as the most anyone does is make outraged comments on TorrentFreak, there’s nothing to stop the all-out assault on privacy that is going on right now on the Internet, at the behest of groups like the RIAA.

        Hardly anyone really cares enough about privacy to actually take meaningful steps to protect it. They want to know what button to push to just make things work. Very few people avoid or abandon online services over privacy concerns.

    • riveroftears

      They try/do manipulate/use/abuse US law to their own selfish advantage to make their PIECE. OF. SHIT. employees/executives rich and happy. They don’t give a fuck about artists & performers. Or their customers.
      It’s so obvious that they feel the need to put their foot forward and literally say “WE DO IT FOR THE ARTISTS, BRAH”.
      And the adult industry is just.. hell. Getting sued for not having a girlfriend and/or being a pervert since 1996. It doesn’t get any more dirty and pathetic than them..

      ..And not even in a good way.

    • JordanKratz

      Fuck Off RIAA ! I would not go near your Artists even if you Paid Me to listen to them.Love to see you utterly destroyed.

      “The worst offending BitTorrent sites according to the RIAA are The Pirate Bay, isoHunt, Torrentz, KickassTorrents, BitSnoop, SumoTorrent, Torrenthound, BTMon, ExtraTorrent, Fenopy, LimeTorrents and TorrentReactor.”

      Good Sites ! Use these and Broom-Fuck the MAFIAA !
      Get your self on a VPN.

  • LickIt

    Ah-hah-hah-hah. Fuck the RIAA and their members. Perhaps if they take tremendous efforts to make their catalogs available, like it was 2012, and do so on a per company per label effort and sink or swim we might get along. All this collusion shit has got. to. stop.

    Cat and mouse? Wow. That’s an understatement. It speaks to just how delusional they’ve become.

    Make something. Make it available. Make something else. Or find a new god damned business venture that doesn’t involve shoving your god damn dicks down everyone’s throats.

    You’re all really a bunch of ignorant, malevolent past-generational cunts. You’re aware of that, yes?

    25 years. That’s it. That’s all you get. Fuck the Beatles.

    • MadAsASnake

      It’s not cat and mouse, it’s whack-a-mole. They can’t even get their animals right. First rule of whack-a-mole: if you find you are playing it, stop,because you have to do something different to win.

      • Predator

        Or it is cat and mouse and they are the mice.

  • http://profiles.google.com/pianogamer Knut Harald

    “As a result, copyright owners are forced into an endless ‘cat and mouse’ game, which requires considerable resources to be devoted to chasing infringing content, only for that same infringing content to continually reappear.”

    No ones forcing…

    • ForestSilverwood

      So true, it is a marketing choice. Just like its a marketing choice to force release windows and region restrictions, or even to connect with the fans.

      (note; that last one is favored by the fans, and nobody likes the other “market choices”)

    • MadAsASnake

      Now, if they would just make their content available online in a convenient manner and at a sensible cost, most of this would simply go away – the few hardcore downloaders left wouldn’t be worth the effort.

    • Wallace

      “As a result, copyright owners are forced into an endless ‘cat and mouse’ game, which requires considerable resources to be devoted to chasing infringing content, only for that same infringing content to continually reappear.”

      It would be far simpler and more practical to solve this problem by banning computers.

      • IDIOCRACY

        I guess banning money would help more, always cut off the root of all evil to prevent it from returning in any other form. hehe

  • Guest

    So the RIAA is lazy and wants everyone else to work harder and give them money…Nothing new here.

  • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

    How many damned times do we need to say this?

    The RIAA are an outdated organisation which has deliberately refused to enter into the new era of expectations by people in the 21st Century,

    Instead of adapting their business model to to suit people’s wants and need, these fool are now spending their profits on lobbying (or blatantly bringing politicians and their cash-starved political parties to pass lass that no-one wants or needs other than these outdated businesses.

    It’s time for the law to change in terms of what People want – NOT these dinosaur businesses.

    • TheTapsa

      Well since most of those suit wearing dinosaur business lobbyists cannot and want not use the Internet it is obviously quite useless to try saying it online.

      Technology just has outrun slower developing laws and some people. And people are usually very reluctant to changes, especially when they don’t fully understand them.

    • YoudontneedtoknowwhoIam

      Actually at the level we’re speaking of here, lobbying and bribing are the same thing, one is just a euphemism for the other. And for the law to truly change, as greedy as businesses and corporations have gotten, I am more and more becoming convinced it’s going to have to come to bloodshed..I don’t think anything other than lethal force is going to do the trick.

  • Danny

    How many other industries submit a list of websites they want killed to the US government? Its like Apple submitting a list of companies it wants to fail, oh wait they do that too.

    I’m sorry Americans but you need to kick your corrupt government out of power. You fought our tyrannical king off for similar reasons and you let it threaten you again. USA fail!

    • Revolution

      We can’t even kick these arses out of office because the elections are rigged.
      An entire county in Ohio, not a single vote for Romney. States that were nearly tied in polls for over 6 months show wins by up to a 15% margin on election day.
      Democracy is just merely an illusion & the smell of revolution is in the air.
      Following Obummer’s reelection AK-47 sales hit an all-time high.
      And the lies they told to buy the votes they could not steal are already coming out. Ohio has already made drastic cuts to it’s entitlement programs despite BO getting reelected.

      • Evolution

        Oh the irony – those AK47s are probably the Chinese made variety! lulz

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          AK-47′s as in the Sovjet assault rifle being manufactured in China rather than in the US?

      • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

        Missing that a Romney administration would have been infinitely worse for the country, with another economic crash on the Horizon.

      • Anyone

        Obama might be bad for the internet, but Romney would have been just as bad and his other stuff was way worse
        his economical plan would have caused another financial crisis
        he wanted to start another war in the middle east
        not to mention his positions (well, depending on what day of the week you ask him) on social issues that try to bring the US back to the 19th century

        just remember, the guy has no spine
        when Hollywood comes knocking with new money for his Cayman Island account you can be sure he will do whatever they ask of him

      • ScrewEwe2

        It’s a fact that John F. Kennedy would have lost the 1960 presidential election if his father (one of the biggest bootleggers during alcohol prohibition) hadn’t cut deals with Sam Giancana and the rest of the Chicago Mob bosses to “deliver” the needed democratic votes.

        • Ophelia Millais

          Source?

        • ScrewEwe2

          Ophelia, here’s some sources I did a quick look at. My statement was more of a common knowledge thing that’s existed since the 1960′s. I’m sure if you look for information about the JFK election and mob ties, you’ll find many who believe it happened and many who think it’s nonsense, and the quality of some of the sites are probably lacking.

          From ‘Papa Joe and Booze by Scott M. Deitche’
          http://www.netplaces.com/mafia/did-the-mafia-kill-kennedy/papa-joe-and-booze.htm

          “One Brief Shining Moment

          Kennedy beat Nixon in what was the closest election in history until the 2000 Bush versus Gore contest. And he allegedly had help with it, too. Mobster Sam Giancana, Mayor Richard Daley, and other allegedly crooked politicians in the city of Chicago supposedly stuffed ballot boxes to ensure a Democratic victory. Similar deceit is said to have occurred in Texas. Even with their help, the difference was only about 100,000 votes. John Fitzgerald Kennedy became president.”

          From ‘Did Jfk Steal The 1960 Election? – Roger Stone: The Stone Zone’
          http://stonezone.com/article.php?id=391

          “Did Chicago Mayor Richard J. Daley steal Illinois and thus the 1960 presidential election for John F. Kennedy? Kennedy carried Cook County, which includes Chicago, by 318,736 votes -more than double his national margin of 118,574 votes. This new book by Edmund Kallina fairly examines all sides of this intense political debate, which has vexed historians and fired up partisans since that razor-thin election. However, Kallina reaches the wrong conclusion, that is that the Illinois result wouldn’t have changed the election’s outcome, thus minimizing what he admits was widespread voter theft and fraud on election day.

          Mayor Daley himself gave away the game on election eve when he said, “With the Democratic organization and the help of a few close friends,” the Democrats would prevail on election day. There is sufficient evidence that the “few close friends” mentioned include Chicago crime boss Sam Giancana–a fact Kallina pretty much ignores.

          Federal special prosecutor Morris Wexler conducted a quiet inquiry into 1960 Illinois election fraud and the evidence was pervasive. Mayor Richard J. Daley stole Illinois’ 27 Electoral College votes for fellow Democrat John F. Kennedy, denying Richard Nixon the presidency. Kennedy won the state by 8,858 of 4.7 million votes.Kallina believes vote fraud did occur in Chicago and elsewhere in Illinois, but not on a scale that changed the outcome.

          Mayor Daley was known for stuffing ballot boxes and giving ward bosses and precinct captains vote quotas. Two recounts of Chicago-area voting later showed that Democrats had likely stolen tens of thousands of votes for the Democratic ticket, including down-ballot races.

          Special prosecutor Wexler’s report, issued in April 1961, found “substantial” miscounts in the 1,367 precincts it examined, including unqualified voters, misread voting machines and math mistakes. In one precinct, voters asked where to deposit tickets for drawing for hams. In another, a precinct captain handed out slips of paper entitling voters to free lunches.

          In many precincts, boarding house bums and vagrants were promised and given a shot of whiskey for a vote. There is substantial evidence that these fraudulent voters were shuttled from polling place to polling place and were “repeaters.” Wexler’s inquiry was hampered by the non-cooperation of Cook County officials and the Democratic machine, where Wexler was stonewalled. Wexler brought contempt charges against 667 election officials, but the cases were dismissed by a Democratic judge. Three people were convicted on criminal charges……..”

          Also: ‘United States presidential election, 1960′

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_1960

          ‘Controversies’

          “Many Republicans (including Nixon and Eisenhower) believed that Kennedy had benefited from vote fraud, especially in Texas, where Kennedy’s running mate Lyndon B. Johnson was Senator, and Illinois, home of Mayor Richard Daley’s powerful Chicago political machine.[25] These two states are important because if Nixon had carried both, he would have gotten to exactly the 270 electoral votes needed to win the election in the Electoral College. Republican Senators such as Everett Dirksen and Barry Goldwater also believed that vote fraud played a role in the election,[24] and they believed that Nixon actually won the national popular vote. Republicans tried and failed to overturn the results in both these states at the time—as well as in nine other states.[30] Some journalists also later claimed that mobster Sam Giancana and his Chicago crime syndicate played a role in Kennedy’s victory in Illinois.[30]“

          ‘Was Nixon Robbed?
          The legend of the stolen 1960 presidential election., By David Greenberg

          http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/history_lesson/2000/10/was_nixon_robbed.html

          Well Ophelia, there’s some info. For the record, I’ve voted mostly Democrat over the last 37 years, so I don’t come at it from a right wing whacko POV. Possibly wacky, but not whacko. I generally don’t buy into conspiracy theories, and until God buys me a Lobster and Steak combo and can give proof that he/her/it is God, I’ll continue to believe the Bible is a fairy tale meant to scare kids into being good little citizens, just like the Grimm fairy tales and Old Mother Goose.

          :-)

        • Ophelia Millais

          Well 3 of the 4 sources you quoted say that whatever impropriety went on in Chicago didn’t affect the outcome. And the quoted text from the Wikipedia article just says people have their suspicions. So contrary to what you said, it’s not a fact that JFK would’ve lost the election. It might be true, but there’s no way to know.

          However I didn’t know about any of this until now, so I appreciate the links. It’s interesting.

        • ScrewEwe2

          Ophelia, I have to admit that you’re correct. Using the word “fact” was a dumb choice, and I should have said that some people “speculate” instead.

      • Ophelia Millais

        “An entire county in Ohio, not a single vote for Romney.”

        Ever do any fact-checking, bub? You are talking about Cuyahoga County (Cleveland metro area, a Democrat stronghold) where Romney actually got 30% of the vote. There are 1077 precincts in that county, each with a few hundred voters, and exactly 12 of those precincts voted unanimously for Obama. So not quite the numbers you are talking about. About 100 precincts had fewer than 5 votes each for Romney. This is actually better than McCain did in 2008 (he didn’t get a single vote in 16 precincts). Even if there was fraud, you’d have to move 107,000+ Cuyahoga County votes from the Obama column to the Romney column in order for Romney to carry the state. Highly unlikely it was off by that much; the urban areas are quite blue. So take off the tinfoil hat.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/UZZCQP7B2GN5PVHVJBI4OUXWTA Alpha

        Your fooling no one by trying to paint Romney as some American hero. I’d take a community planner over a business man running my country any day. Your delusional if you seriously think a republican would liberate the Internet lmao. What a joke. We don’t need a revolution, especially when its leader and party are composed of old angry white guys. What we need is to abolish RIAA and MPAA, but Romney (a businessman) would only give them more power, seeing as they are a business. The youth of today (white, black, brown, yellow, red and every other color) will slowly and surely liberate the Internet, but Romney is NOT the answer. Oh and (Obummer) thats the lamest insult ever, only old people find that witty, its lame, lame, lame.

    • Just Curious

      Isn’t it true that if YOUR government were not corrupt the U.S. would have no influence over it? DUH?

      • Evolution

        It’s not necessarily so cut and dry. The US government usually backs up its ‘influence’ on other governments with the threat of violence, either militarily or economically.

        • Noway

          LOL @ threats of violence. Talk about missing a spine.

      • Danny

        The US spreads corruption all over the world.

        They threaten anyone who doesn’t do things their way with trade sanctions, just look at what happened in Spain over BT trackers.

        Our government is far from perfect but is no way near as influenced by the highest bidder as the US. We actually have democracy in this country, there are more than 3 parties competing for votes and they don’t need multi-billion dollar budgets to do so.

        The most corrupt law we have had passed recently is the DEA (we can thank the MPAA for bribing Peter Mandelson for that) and even the Tories are trying to put off implementing any of it until they get voted out.

        • UKisFuked

          And yet you hand over your citizens to the US justice system when they haven’t committed any crimes in your country.

        • Danny

          @UKisFuked

          I don’t personally and nor do I agree with the UK-US extradition treaty.

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  • Danny

    I would rather they die?

  • Anonymous

    the one thing i like about this is that despite all the crap they give their (old?) customers and despite all the things they keep doing tp try to please the entertainment industries, Rapidshare has still been put on the ‘shut down’ list! fucking good job! they never seem to learn!

    as for the rest of the article, like everyone else, if/when the entertainment industries start treating me with the respect i deserve as a customer, without whom the industries would not exist, giving me what i continuously ask for but get ignored, why would i not download and why would things not keep being uploaded? instead of trying to make me pay multiple times for having 1 item, realise that once is enough. what else apart from little plastic disks of info do i have to pay for over and over again? what else do i have to get permission from the originator before i can sell on what i no longer want? you people wouldn’t/dont do it, why should anyone else?

    • Andrew me

      LOl so what are they going to do when torrenting becomes anonymous. Are they going to stop people emailing each other with lists of new torrents available.

      This is not whack a mole as there is no way they can even see half of the people that share stuff. They are seeing the tip of the iceberg, if they knew the full extent of sharing of content both legal and illegal online they would at least try to do something to give people what they wanted. If they think only 18% of the Internet torrents or shares in other ways they are seriously mistaken, i would say up that to at least 99% of people share in some way, even those that are so against it probably share, from what we have seen in the past most musicians share as do producers and directors of movies. So what to do when the full population thinks it is OK to share entertainment …lol….

    • Ophelia Millais

      I doubt they will treat anyone with respect in the foreseeable future. Their backhanded treatment of RapidShare is a case in point.

      The RIAA and the rest of the content industry are never to be trusted. No matter what you do, whether you’re a consumer, vendor, broadcaster, search engine, cyberlocker, or whatever, and even if you play by their rules 100% of the way, they will always keep a knife at your back, trying to get the law changed at your expense, demanding onerous licensing terms, and griping to regulatory bodies like this, all to ensure that you perpetually surrender ever-more money and privacy for access to content. And they will not hesitate to sue you into ruin if they decide you haven’t done enough for them. This is their m.o. and it is not going to change anytime soon.

      Just watch: even if they get BitTorrent sites and cyberlockers to proactively filter, there won’t be any indemnity clauses in their contracts, and whatever filtering happens won’t be enough…they will still demand more controls, and they will still file more lawsuits to get the services shut down. Mark my words.

  • Guest

    Dear U.S. Government,

    We’re tired of playing a “cat and mouse” game in our bid to control the Internet.

    We’d like someone else to have to play that game instead, on our behalf and at their expense.

    Sincerely,

    RIAA

    (written on the backs on cash bundles stuffed into a briefcase)

  • Anyone

    if piracy allegedly costs them hundreds of millions of dollars, surely they can spend some money to prevent it

    or are they just making the loss numbers up?

    • Duppduppi

      “are they just making the loss numbers up?”

      BINGO!!!

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      Their “loss numbers” logically extended, means they would be “losing” more money in sales than there exists in the world. By a significant margin.

      So yes, every statement to that effect has been falsified. The MPAA/RIAA are, in effect, lying through their teeth whenever they mention what they call “the lost sales”.

  • Ahmed al-D?aabari

    my god when those jankes understand THERES NO OIL ON THE INTERNET !

  • ForestSilverwood

    “The list zooms in on several file-sharing portals including BitTorrent sites described as “high priority pirate markets.” ”

    I think someone needs to learn what a market is. It’s where stuff is *Sold*. Torrent sites share data for free >.>

    • Evolution

      To play devil’s advocate here, a market is actually a place where items are traded or exchanged. Money only entered into the equation for convenience as a token of ‘worth’ because it’s easier to carry around than, say, fifteen camels.

      But your sentiment is right as I’m sure the RIAA have genuinely convinced themselves that shared tracks are somehow making someone somewhere loads of cash and that’s hard cash the RIAA is missing out on.

  • completeidiots

    Does the RIAA want to effectively stop piracy? My money’s on no. The RIAA has historically played the victim since your grandaddy was recording bootleg concerts with his tapedeck. I think the US needs to take a stand and just tell RIAA to deal with it. There is and never will be a way to stop information from being obtainable online. But they know this, without pretending to be violated they wouldn’t exist.

    • MadAsASnake

      Nah… RIAA and MPAA don’t want piracy to stop. There would be no reason for Hollywood to hand over buckets of cash (not that it helps Hollywood in any event).

    • Guest

      If piracy stopped then they would lose all those millions of dollars that they sue people for so they would cut of their noses. Mind you they still wouldn’t get the money if they did sue people.

    • ScrewEwe2

      If piracy was stopped the idiots at the RIAA and MPAA, etc., would have to find other, less lucrative jobs. If the War On Drugs ended because of legalization of some drugs, the law enforcement officers would have to find security guard or night watchmen jobs.

  • Guest

    So Rapidshare doing everything that the MPAA/RIAA ask of them to do still get on the wanted list. Well it serves them right if they thought that they would avoid being a target in doing what the MAFFIA asked of them.

  • danielrobertsg

    Gees! Discovered a lot of great sites thanks to this. Thanks RIAA <3

    • Guest

      Stuff like this is simply spreading the word about what sites are out there.

      • Morashon

        That’s the point. It spreads the word to people who don’t necessarily know how to cover their tracks, so they can find these people and sue them for outrageous amounts.

        The media started online piracy, or at least greatly pushed it.

  • Naruto999

    Fuck the RIAA and MPAA.

  • Embrace Change

    I just added a whole bunch of bookmarks.

    Thanks for listing all of these for us, RIAA.

    -The Internet

  • The_Strawbear

    If cyberlockers weren’t generally hosts for piracy then this website wouldn’t report on them as it exclusively only ever reports on piracy related events unlike other sites like techdirt which look at wider issues with regards to privacy.

    Sorry that just occurred to me….

    Anyway, cyberlockers must drive the RIAA nuts, as the business model most of them run on implicitly includes a certain amount of piracy to get the numbers they need for their advertising partners.
    The fact that all this is done on a nod and a wink whilst they pretend to obey the law and say all the right things is making their positions more and more untenable.

    It will be interesting to see where this one goes as proactive filtering for certain media (mainly AV media) would be quite easy to do. Music, literature and photography based piracy would be much harder to filter for the lockers.

    • Andrew me

      As soon as that happens all av media will be compressed and cannot be identified unless they uncompress the files and then you are looking at massive amounts of computing power, especially with millions of files uploaded all the time. Who is going to pay the money for these supercomputers?

    • Violated0

      Nice failure to understand the law there.

      Yes cyberlockers and many other sites do infringement but the safe-harbour of DMCA law makes this LAWFUL INFRINGEMENT (the same as fair use).

      Now it does not matter if the site had 0.0001% lawful infringement or 99.9999% lawful infringement when the only thing that counts is proof that they do have a valid non-infringing use and Linux is a popular answer.

      Under the law they can make money from infringement because the law sees them as a lawful operation protected by DMCA safe-harbour. Now if any rights holders do not like this situation then that is why the DMCA take-down process exists to remove their media from this infringement.

      All well and nice but the RIAA do not play by these rules. They instead follow the law they want Congress to approve and where everyone else has just not caught up with them yet. Others would call them dreamers.

      People here then show more respect to these file sharing services who follow the law when they do walk a hard path as they innovate to serve the public need.

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      Aside from anything else…

      “t will be interesting to see where this one goes as proactive filtering for certain media (mainly AV media) would be quite easy to do. “

      Given unlimited resources, sure. But bear in mind this – not even Google has the computing power to do as you say. Even the filtering of Youtube assumes everything uploaded is unpacked and ready-to-play.

      In short, upload a ripped .iso in zipped format and that AV filter is screwed.

  • Ophelia Millais

    This “Special 301″ report has been put together every year since 1989. At some point during the year (it changes every year), the USTR solicits, for a brief time, public comments for the next report. The RIAA document is one of these comments. Then around the end of April they publish this report, which basically is a list of naughty countries that need to crack down on things going on within their borders, things that allegedly hurt U.S. trade interests. http://www.keionline.org/ustr/special301 has a nice overview and lots of interesting links.

    I wonder why the EFF doesn’t submit comments in defense of due process, non-infringing uses of file-sharing technologies, counteracting industry’s overstated claims, and balancing U.S. trade interest with the global public interest. I suppose it would just be pissing into the wind, as the USTR has no incentive to acknowledge anything that doesn’t boil down to “country X should be sanctioned”…but on looking through the comments for the last report, I’m disappointed that the few statements made in the public interest are so weakly argued and barely touch on ways industry could (and does) benefit from something less than an absolute, draconian rejection of all things related to file sharing.

  • Guest

    Do they expect the filesharing industry to become self-policing? Do they expect it to beat itself into submission?

    And note this. When the MAFIAA “suggests” something, they take profits that should go to the artists and spend it on lobbying and politics. This makes the “suggestion” a “law”.

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      What “industry”?

      It’s more like they expect every individual in the world to stop saying certain sentences and words in conversation – or the online version thereof.

  • Guest

    All this pandering about and what not makes me sick about the whole industry. Now pray tell why would I want to support or have anything to do with such control freak wannabes?

  • Guest

    “The music group credits the Government’s efforts as contributing to the demise of BTJunkie, Demonoid, Megaupload and other ‘pirate’ sites..”

    BTJunkie = decided to shut down on its own.
    Demonoid = its tracker is back online.
    Megaupload = it’s coming back bigger and better.

    This is the government fighting piracy? This is the RIAA winning?

    The RIAA admits that many of the popular BitTorrent sites do take links down when they are asked to

    Then the RIAA can get bent. There’s this thing called DMCA safe harbour. They should look it up.

    “The locker service itself would clearly be better placed to locate infringing content on its own servers (there are technologies available that would assist) and to take appropriate action”

    WAAAH! DO OUR JOBS FOR US! WAAAAH!

    P.S.
    Just to piss off the resident MAFIAA troll, here’s the daily reminder that piracy isn’t even a problem:
    http://www.google dot com/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=pirates+%22buy+more%22

  • Flex

    wonder if these are the same people at jimmy savel knocked about with ???????? polititons who need them they just f-ck sh-t up more

  • icec0ld

    This isn’t old. RIAA isn’t satisfied with it’s ability to censor sites it calls infringing into oblivion. They won’t be satisfied till there’s an internet Mordor with a great big flaming eye watching everything and everyone for “profit reducing” activities.

  • Facefuck

    Rapid-Ship`? Rly? Word? R-u-fekin-srs? RapidShare my ass. Rapid limit reach is what that shit has become. And Mr. and Mrs. RIAA and MPAA are STILL not happy with them? -.- I should stop checking TF frequently I get braindamge from all the BS that these so called rightsholder thugs generate per day.

    • Anyone

      of course they are not happy with cyberlockers
      independent artists still can use cyberlockers without their approval

      all this “piracy” talk is just a red herring

      • nostrafarious

        … and THAT, is what really could be true intent of all this fuss. They of course know that if artists EVERYWHERE would just WAKE THE FUCK UP and stop signing deals with the Hollywood Satans then they could market all of their own shit for almost NOTHING by themselves and reap all of the profits. WTF

      • Scary_Devil_Monastery

        …which is why they went after Megaupload in such a hurry and after DMCA-compliant cyberlockers in particular.

        And why they’ve done their level best to ensure spotify remains an unpalatable alternative for artists as compared to the “tried-and-true” business model of Sony and EMI.

        I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – in any other industry we would instantly be hollering about “unfair business practice” and call for a judge. The entertainment industry’s hunt for filesharers is just so much smoke and mirror meant to hide the fact that what they are really after is to deprive artists of viable alternatives.

        And this goes a long way towards explaining why Sony Music’s CEO managed to state in front of a camera that he could see nothing positive having come from the internet. True, for him.

  • Violated0

    I would normally moan about them listing Torrentz being much like a BT site focused Google but now they list RapidShare making them a bunch of jokers. It is not like you can term RapidShare as a piracy haven for many years.

    Well there is one good way for services to completely avoid the RIAA’s pro-active filtering demand and that is to follow the example of mega.co.nz. Since everything is uploaded encrypted then services have no idea what files are contained and therefore they cannot filter them. It also seems to me they could make a good claim that piracy laws would be broken by unauthorised access to encrypted media.

    So if the RIAA moan at all the work they have to do now then they will squeal and cry like little girls once encryption makes their job one hundred times harder. I cannot feel sorry for them when they have pushed lawful services in this direction through invalid attacks on sites like DaJaz1, RojaDirecta and of course Mega.

    Can’t play by established rules and fairness so technical Warfare it is.

  • Guest

    Filter proactively? Yeah, sure, why not. Filter every single file that has the word “Red” in it, thinking that it must have something to do with Taylor Swift, and then hit a fuckton of false positives (not to say that they don’t already do that).

    Viacom can’t even pick out infringing videos properly on YouTube; what chance does a dumb pipe have?

    • Gulliver Foyle

      Who the hell is Taylor Swift? Am I missing something important here? This the third time this month I’ve seen his name on the ‘net.

      • Anyone

        she’s a singer that whines about breakups

  • Who

    the IPA failed, the DMCA failed. the RIAA and the MPAA need to just give it up. people break there laws and they break the real laws. just stop commenting on all this stupid crap and eventually they will just shut there holes, and be forced to answer to a MUCH hier power.

  • Dondilly

    So now the mafiaa campaign ‘donations’ have helped secure a 2nd term, they send him the bill by way of a 24 page wish list of aledged problems they would like to see disappear.

    What is most twisted about this list, especially after their final admition that file sharers buy more media than anyone else. They bleat on for 22 pages about various means of filesharing causing losses they are unable to quantify (after admitting in the post yesterday such sites actually benefit their sales). You have to read through to page 23 out of 24 before they even mention (as they admit in the letter) quantifiable losses by way of counterfeit goods.

    I would point out that for some non net people, such counterfeits exist due to market failure. That can be caused due to delayed release of movies or total non availability such as with many tv shows. Something else that drives the black market is state censorship. Less so now but that was a prime cause of pre net movie piracy in the uk where all retail videos have to be classified by the state censor (bbfc) resulting in non availability (in cinema or video) of some films and even mainstream movies cut to ribbons. Naturally the major film companies rather than protesting and looking after the interests of their customers tend to play along with censorship and avoid publicising cuts. The fact. It was a criminal offence to sell unclassified vids it enabled media companies to carve up regions and block grey imports with the full force of law (even if the imported vid was identical and no cuts to local version, it was still illegal without a classification mark).
    Something that still drives justifiable tangible pirate sales is the lack of many language subtitles in any given region. The only option is piracy or be excluded by a failed market.

  • downunder

    So what next.. perhaps websites that have no dns record and people connect via a direct ip they learn from other members?
    must be possible right.. then have the ip address change on a monthly basis..

    as soon as more laws are inflected the web changes to couteract
    people change or come up with more clearer ways

    push it underground RIA (opps I mean RIAA) :*

  • Lando

    Why do I get the feeling that all of the senior management at Rapidshare formerly worked at Cloud City on Bespin?

    • Ophelia Millais

      Lobot is on the case.

  • BigBusinessCompany

    Oh thanks RIAA this reminds me that I have to fill my special report saying that all companies that compete with mine are bad for my business but they should be the ones to bankrupt themselves

  • The_Strawbear

    Unrelated but interesting story about google suing some guy who’s called his site Doogle It.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/nov/14/google-warns-doogle-over-copyright

    • Anyone

      dear lord, how can anyone use that site?
      it has autoplaying video

      they should do a better job at copying google
      remember KISS: Keep It Simple, Idiot!

      • ScrewEwe2

        “remember KISS: Keep It Simple, Idiot!”
        KISS: Keep It Simple, Stupid!

        • Ophelia Millais

          I’m pretty sure you missed the joke.

  • Bib

    This just in: RIAA, “30% of the time we are right 100% of the time. You can count on that, all our data is correct.”

  • vootann

    Sounds like a plan to me dude.

    http://www.Privacy-Webz.tk

  • NewClear

    The RIAA is supposed to protect their own copyrights themselves, at their own expense. Do they honestly think they can change the law and force everyone to do it for them?

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      Agreed. The RIAA needs to realize that the DMCA and criminal law even is based on “Innocent until proven guilty” and also says that if a business has significant non-criminal uses? It cannot be made illegal.

      Now, if you find the business working with criminals, that is different but let’s get real here: The filelockers do NOT work with the pirates. At one time, they could be bashed over those ‘programs’ where they paid per download. However, they have started policing those much better where they exist and they pull you off those programs if there is even ONE substantiated report of you uploading stuff you don’t own the copyright to or have permission of the copyright owner.

  • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

    Too bad for the RIAA that these sites are not going to disappear. They just have to start living in the goddamned real world where their offerings are overpriced and LOWER THEIR PRICES!

    • XXX

      You’re damn right!!!

    • ane92

      i’m not a fan of the RIAA and some of the legal approaches they take against people. But to be fair, the music industry has lowered their prices, dramatically infact.

      You can’t get much lower than 99cents for a song, i guess technically you can but i don’t even think something like itunes allows you to price something lower than 99cents unless its free…..and with that 99cents part of it goes to other parties like apple and the artist…in reality a record label is really making about 30-40cents per song…so again you can’t get much cheaper than that.

      people are gonna pirate regardless of what price is… free is always cheaper. so copyright holders do/should have a right to try to somehow limit the amount of piracy that goes on but i do agree that the RIAA’s strong arm approach is very wrong….sueing kids and granies millions of dollars for sharing a few albums, comon man that’s just stupid.

      • ScrewEwe2

        99 cents for a 128kbps mp3 is a total ripoff. 69 cents for a Flac, then maybe….or maybe not.

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          Agreed, ScrewEwe2. When it costs NEXT TO NOTHING to transfer things and it is on the CONSUMER to back up their purchases, as in the case of online music past… a year at most?

          The prices should equate to that reality. 10 bucks per game less than 5 years old, 20 bucks per new release game, 5 for games over 5 years old.

          10 cents per track for 128kbps music, 25 for twice that, and 50 cents for twice that.

  • Guest32

    @The_Strawbear

    “Anyway, cyberlockers must drive the RIAA nuts, as the business model most of them run on implicitly includes a certain amount of piracy to get the numbers
    they need for their advertising partners. ”

    Completely irrelevant, only relevant thing is that the users upload files, and the host take it down if requested to do so.

    The amount of piracy is irrelevant. The Viacom v. Youtube case held that the provider only looses the safe harbor, if it fails to act on specific knowledge.

    “The fact that all this is done on a nod and a wink whilst they pretend to obey the law and say all the right things is making their positions more and
    more untenable.”

    Why? The law requires a provider to do X when notified of a specific file, and you are facetious for arguing that doing what the law requires is untenable.

    Do you support a police state?

    “It will be interesting to see where this one goes as proactive filtering for certain media (mainly AV media) would be quite easy to do. Music, literature
    and photography based piracy would be much harder to filter for the lockers.”

    Filtering for media is not possible, and trying to impose such a proactive obligation violates EU law.
    Proactive filtering does not take into account fair use, or private storage.

    A file uploaded to a cyberlocker may be illegal,depending on the wider distribution.

    I have a fair use right under local law to backup my legally acquired content, and in some nations, I even have a right to share with family and friends. Proactive filtering would prevent me from exercising all these fair use rights.

    RIAA and other copyright holders are essentially claiming that their copyright should extend to killing all content uploaded even for personal storage.

    It’s like arguing that any corporation without a warrant should have a right to disable me from storing certain things in my locker shared with my family.

    • not in a million years

      hmmhmmniggaiaintreadinalldatshit.jpg

      • Guest

        illiterate.png

  • viral-pauper

    The RIAA would shut down the entire internet if they thought they could. They’re one of the few people who are being dragged, literally kicking and screaming into the 21st century.

    You can shut down the entire music industry before I even consider supporting these archaic measures to stop piracy.

    • JohnGaspardo

      Your use of the word “people” is incorrect. How can an inanimate object have the characteristics of a flesh and blood human being? Oh yeah money…nevermind

      • Anyone

        corporations are people, my friend

        • Techanon

          No, they’re not.

        • Anyone

          of course they are not, I was just quoting Romney ;)

  • JohnGaspardo

    So what these RIAA fucks are saying is that they want to have filtering on these sites and tomorrow they will be demanding that everyone’s computer be searched for files and next week there will be some bullshit law making me by their crap just like the insurance industry. God bless multinational corporate fascism. Those poor corporations could never have their sick twisted wet dream of unlimited profits at all costs if not for their government henchmen to do the dirty work all while sticking me the taxpayer with the bill.God bless multinational corporate fascism!!(or we label you a terrorist and ship you to Guantanamo)

  • Guest

    “The world’s most popular films and music can be instantly downloaded via the service”

    Well, this exactly is what people want.

  • guest

    Yes RIAA i agree it sounds like a great idea to break privacy policy laws and acts and other rights that citizens have, just to make you happy and destroy the internet just because you do not want to please the consumers and give the content at a reasonable price in a great service. What if the government did what rockafeller, jp morgan, carnegie ect… wanted back then and not care about citizens human rights or monopolies. The USA sure as hell would not be where it is today.
    Sure they had it good in the start but it catches up.

  • Goosmoo

    To make things easier the RIAA should just come to my house and watch all of my Internet activities so I don’t accidentally download the latest horrible generic music.

  • Zan

    Dear riaa,

    Thanks for advertising PrivatizeVPN, I’ll check it out.

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  • ScrewEwe2

    Off Topic, Tried the IE10 preview release for W7 and it crashed my laptop 4 times. I have a fast machine with 8 gigs of RAM and can multitask all day and night, but it couldn’t handle IE10 at all. This the first time this laptop has ever blue screened in the last 15 months. After the 4th crash I restarted in safe mode and did a system restore to B4 the IE10 install. Probably works OK on a W8 tablet or W8 pc, but it is slower than IE9, and isn’t at all ready for primetime, and ….. generally sucks. Being a preview release this is to be expected + everything Microsoft sells is “Buy now, and we’ll make sure it works later”.

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      Oh, bull. I have never had a problem with even Developer Previews of Microsoft software except in cases where a non-Microsoft program was badly written.

      • ScrewEwe2

        Christopher, IMO Windows ME and Vista were both problematic OS’s. Windows 7 is basically Vista 2.0, and is what Vista should have been when it was released.

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  • FACEFUCKED

    RIAA: “my job is soo hard. better bribe the fuck outta congress to force others to do our job”

    You gettin old RIAA, too much to handle with that constant flood of shared data isn’t it?

  • Guest

    Before I could see the point of them using legal actions to try to protect… now they just blatently want to stifle free speech, atleast before they tried to hide it!

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  • Truth

    I’m starting to get annoyed with this site for deleting posts.

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      This site does not delete posts unless they are spam, so what are you talking about?

      • Truth

        My post was not spam, and any information in it was too old and non specific to be liabilious.Yet it was removed, I’ve seen this site remove other posts that were not spam over the years I’m been here.

        • ScrewEwe2

          Christopher is right. Generally speaking, if you are using a VPN, your posts are likely being removed by the spam filters TF and Disqus use, because just about all spammers use VPN’s. Email Ernesto if this is the case in order to resolve the problem. Same thing started happening to me earlier this year after I started using my VPN and Ernesto white listed me.

          You may have noticed the warning at the bottom of every page that say’s:

          “!!! There are some issues with comments being marked as SPAM.
          It may take a while before they appear. we hope to fix this as soon as possible”.

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  • FilesharingBro

    Down with riaa and the cults ..they will never win the war against people who stand for the truth………We Shall Win This War Ultimately..

  • Tigranspetrosian

    FUCK OFF AMERICA

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  • Foff

    The RIAA ought to proactively censor the shit coming out of their mouths. Fucking cunts!

  • Ben Parry

    Ok first off real time filtering does not work, people will start naming files diffrently to get around the filters. they can also put links in comments as to what the file contains. Also why should a company who already has staff removing links when asked or system that removes them automatically when requested put more money into equipment and infrastructure to please another company that they dont even do business with or make any money doing so. with Milliions of peopel downloading daily having all the torrent, locker and other file sites all hainvg to upgrade because someone cant control thier own products is not thier problem. It would be better for the music industry to find a better way to protect the content in another way. Also what happens when someone has legit named files and owns the rights how will the auto filter know if its pirated or not… it can’t there would be too many false positives which legiti customers could than take actino against the company hosting. So I think they will have to just take what they can get and give up on all this money being spent on useless ideas and maybe than they will see some profits from all the money lawyers and others have sucked out of the system.

  • A150598

    once you read one article about the RIAA you’ve read them all

  • Keysersozeishere

    “As soon as copyrighted material is taken down, it’s put back up by another user.”

    Well, Duh… what did they expect?

    They’re at a point now where they want to throw the baby out with the bathwater and say all these sites are just considered piracy sites and we should get rid of them just because they exist. Ha!

  • SnowFox

    You know the RIAA is right! Cyberlockers and Bittorrent sights should proactively search their inventory. But lets not stop there! After all, what if pirates are making physical copies? We should open all packages and search them. And what about shipping units! Open all of them too. Hell, lets get rid of the police. Corporations can provide private security and public militia services. And think of all the jobs it will make. I’m sure the RIAA, Record Lables, Studio Executives, and big named singers/actors will be willing to take a pay cut and redistribute some wealth to pay for these new jobs. After all, its not unreasonable to have the person who is rich and complaining pay for what they want. If the RIAA wants jello wrestling on every corner and is willing to pay, let them have jello wrestling. If they want people to proactivally search files and are willing to pay, let them have employees!

  • miguel gonzalez

    MPAA/RIAA angry as fuck cuz they not gettin their dick sucked.

    go ahead- take it down, because i’ll just list 3 reasons why that’ll fuck things up even more/why it wont be effective at all in the end…. freedom or jail you’ll always lose… why can’t you get that through your head?

    anyways my reasons are here:

    1)>>>Private trackers<<>still< your dirty blowjob money
    (somebody please make a meme out of this ^_^ id preciate it)

    2)Communism(you tryina monopolize market? thats not capitalism you uptight whore)

    ***last but least, the most important reason why i bother to even fuck these retards(MPAA/RIAA plus the government- two faggets having sex.)

    3)Stagnation of Technology(but oh fucking wait, you depend on it like heroine to distribute and sell products, dont you?)

    take it or leave it- i never gave a fuck in the first place and i never will need to with immature kids with small dicks- you dont scare me faggets. i got more important shit to deal with.

  • miguel gonzalez

    MPAA/RIAA angry as fuck cuz they not gettin their dick sucked.

    go ahead- take it down, because i’ll just list 3 reasons why that’ll fuck things up even more/why it wont be effective at all in the end…. freedom or jail you’ll always lose… why can’t you get that through your head?

    anyways my reasons are here:

    1)>>>Private trackers<<>still< your dirty blowjob money
    (somebody please make a meme out of this ^_^ id preciate it)

    2)Communism(you tryina monopolize market? thats not capitalism you uptight whore)

    ***last but least, the most important reason why i bother to even fuck these retards(MPAA/RIAA plus the government- two faggets having sex.)

    3)Stagnation of Technology(but oh fucking wait, you depend on it like heroine to distribute and sell products, dont you?)

    take it or leave it- i never gave a fuck in the first place and i never will need to with immature kids with small dicks- you dont scare me faggets. i got more important shit to deal with.

  • austinhamman

    the opening blurb said it all
    “it’s tired of playing “cat and mouse” with the site’s users who simply re-upload the infringing files.” this is a sign that you are on the wrong side of the debate. you are standing on the shore ordering the tide not to come in and expecting it to be so. you are wasting your time, your money, and the time and money of the tax payers and politicians. get with the times or GTFO

  • Horsemeat

    The problem here is the RIAA and friends only see 1 share = 1 loss formula then add it up and because they are so greedy and are not willing to part with any of their money even to artists the are forced to try and fight it.

    And anyway it’s not as if they are losing money… but calling all their customers dirty pirates that need to be punished isn’t exactly the best strategy to go for either.

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