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RIAA Wants Search Engines to Censor “Pirate Sites”

In a testimony before Congress on “The Future of Audio” today, RIAA CEO Cary Sherman will stress that more needs to be done to stop online piracy. In particular, search engines such as Google and Bing have to take responsibility and come up with appropriate technological solutions. The RIAA wants these search engines to censor pirate sites from their search results while giving priority to legitimate music services.

censoredLater today RIAA CEO Cary Sherman will take part in the “The Future of Audio” hearing (live now) at the U.S. House of Representatives.

While the music industry group’s main aim at the hearing is to convince legislators to close a loophole that allows radio stations to play music without paying performance rights, the topic of online piracy will not go undiscussed.

In a prepared statement, Sherman begins by pointing out that the image of the music business as an innovation-shy industry is misplaced. DRM-free downloads, unlimited streaming, free ad-supported streaming and music backups in the cloud are a few highlighted examples of innovative developments.

But despite all these services, piracy is still rampant. More needs to be done.

According to Sherman the music industry is more frequently steering towards voluntary agreements, and with success. They have struck a deal with ISPs to punish copyright infringers, helped payment processors to reduce payments to pirate sites, and encouraged major advertisers to discontinue business with “rogue” websites.

If the RIAA has its way, Google and other search engines will also collaborate on a similar agreement. Ideally, these search engines would no longer link to “infringing sites” such as The Pirate Bay and isoHunt.

“We hope other intermediaries like search engines will follow suit in negotiating voluntary marketplace best practices to prevent directing users to sites that are dedicated to violating property rights,” Sherman says in his speech.

TorrentFreak asked the RIAA to provide more details on what they see as an ideal scenario. Without going into specifics, we were directed to the following statements which reveal a bit more about the RIAA’s demands.

“Sites that engage in infringing activity should not appear as the first results when searching for what entertainment content to download or stream. This just leads to more piracy and popularity of the site,” the RIAA states.

“Rather, whether a site is authorized or unauthorized to make copyrighted works available to the public should be a significant indicator in determining ranking of the result, with unauthorized sites having lower rankings than authorized sites.”

In other words, “legitimate” search results should be boosted while “illegitimate” sites are degraded. The RIAA further suggests that the massive amount of DMCA complaints can be reduced by “technical changes,” a fancy way to describe censorship.

“Google should investigate why it has such a high volume of complaints from copyright holders, and whether additional procedural or technical changes could be made to assure legal activity, thereby lessening complaints.”

The above is in line with a set of demands copyright holders handed out to Google, Bing and Yahoo during a behind-closed-doors meeting facilitated by the UK Department for Culture, Media and Sport.

In this proposed “Voluntary Code of Practice” the copyright holders ask search engines to de-index substantially infringing sites.

While there is no sign yet that Google and others are open to these suggestions, it is a clear sign that the RIAA and others see broader search engine control as the way forward.

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  • http://lyrici.com/ Lyrici

    RIAA just shut up

    • Laika

       mafiaa . org above spokesperson CEO Cary Sherman “The RIAA wants these search engines to censor pirate sites from their
      search results while giving priority to legitimate music services.’
      They already do this, bing sells ads, google sells ads, how about buy the higher priced ad so you will appear at the top? That is common knowledge, now u want to censor things and not play fair?; ahh, yeah u people never play fair, I remember Napster and subsuquently most p2p networks after this shut down (soulseek, imesh where u paid ppl to steal the domain and put the fake program up instead of keep the real program, just like you did with Shearaze (get the real version from sourceforge, not the mafiaa fake, bearshare although network still works fine without your fake sensored version, edonkey2000 (lite and hacked version, as well as ed2k/amule,emule,the other mods still work fine ), and hundreds if not more p2p clients you shut down. I remember back in 2005 an article & even in 2003, a few articles where you guys wanted paywalls on everything and you wanted to be the gatekeepers of the internet, aka you pay to view certain sites and those u dont pay for, you cant view. The governments position is that they want it the same way and they want total survelance. For one, fuck you up the ass, #2 may you and your orwellian society burn in hell hotter than the rest (not like your not more than likely going there anyways judging by your actions). file sharing will never die and if u censor those 2 sites, well there are tons of others, and just like you started suing ed2k sites in the past and than many went to bittorrent sites starting then since lots of ed2k sites were down, and more bittorrent sites sprung up, you will never win. You people admitted it on this site on an article, not that I care to find it atm, I’m eating… Anyways, want to appear at the top? buy costlier ads. Censorship starts at one thing and then evolves to more. Give in and mafiaa will never be happy, always wanting more. Thats why I say don’t listen to anything they say because its mostly fake and inflated, and judging by their track record, anyone should be able to see this. It should go like this: judge: mafia, were you not the ones who got most p2p programs shut down and continue to sue tons of developers such as pablo soto who created winny file sharing app and collaborated with the us gov’t to push your plans on countries not your own?” Mafiaa : no comment because they know its true

      Fuck #1984 (see the movie if u don’t know about it) RESIST!

      • http://2.gp/p7zC Marlene R. Weber

         They have no idea what the hell they’re talking about. http://OnlineBestJobs3.notlong.com

        • Anonymous

          Same here. They want to sell information like a product. Bits & Bytes =/= Physical property. They’ve made small innovations web-side, but I still see these big ugly plastic discs in the store. I haven’t seen Lady Gaga’s newest album being sold on an SD Card or anything other than those out-dated plastic doughnuts lately…

      • Anonymous

        my roomate‘s sister makes $82/hour on the laptop. She has been out of work for six months but last month her check was $19771 just working on the laptop for a few hours. Read more on this site

        ?????? (Click At My Name For Link)

      • http://lazycash1.com/ Anonymous

        my buddy’s mother got paid $21508 the previous week. she is making money on the internet and bought a $386500 house. All she did was get fortunate and put into work the instructions explained on this web site

        ?????? (Click At My Name For Link)

        • Anonymous

           In the kindest way possible, please die in a fire.

      • http://goo.gl/5bqhn Maryellen J. Phillips

        see broader search engine control as the way forward. http://DemoforFrank.blogspot.com

      • Anonymous

        my friend’s aunt made $17398 the previous week. she is making income on the internet and bought a $578000 house. All she did was get lucky and try the steps written on this website

        ?????? (Click At My Name For Link)

      • Anonymous

        my co-worker’s sister got paid $21912 the previous week. she gets paid on the internet and got a $416800 house. All she did was get fortunate and put into action the steps given on this link

        ?????? (Click At My Name For Link)

      • Abhijit Parida

        If you dont want your products to be pirated then dont publish it in the first place.

    • Mymom

      I would also like to summit a list to the keepers of the Internet Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga and my competitors. Can anyone get in this list making of sites that should be blocked or do you have to have money? And yes, RIAA shut up. Who elected you keeper of the search engine. Search engines show the popularity of a site mathematically, lets not bastardized the legitimacy of them with deletions and corrections. (Google already does this with ads)

      • Guest

         Thanks for the help!

        Our
        competitors at the Recording Industry Assholes of America is trying to
        make sure that the search engines that compete with us have to stop
        linking back to us. This is really great news!

        Right now about 10% of our traffic comes from these competiting
        search engines. With that ban in place that means that our traffic
        numbers probably will increase. Users will go directly to us instead and
        use our search instead. We’ll grow even more massive. It’s really hard
        to compete with Google, but if they can’t index media search engines
        like us, we’ll be the dominant player in the end.

        So from the bottom of our hearts, THANK YOU RIAA, this is great news
        for us! For once, we support your efforts in something! Let’s make sure
        that TPB keeps on growing together!

        Hugs’n'kisses from your pals at The Pirate Bay – soon to be the biggest media search engine in the world!

  • Jason

    Can you say “duck duck go”

    • Anonymous

      The [DuckDuckGo] search engine policy emphasizes privacy and does not record user information.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo

      • Laika

         also ixquick and startpage is anon

      • Guest

        I use Duckduckgo but I just want to point out to users, don’t truely trust a website. Even one which says it doesn’t record user information could possibily record information. You can’t just take there word for it.

        Anyhow, duckduckgo is great service :)

        Don’t forget http://yacy.net/en/ it’s a p2p search engine, I like it very much. Results order by ‘trending’ (most popular at the moment on the p2p network).

  • Anyone

    If you want top placement for your crappy site Google is more than happy to accommodate you as long as you pay for it.

    so quit your whining, RIAA, and put your money where your mouth is.

  • Mister Rogers

    Those greedy idiots just can’t shut up.  Any legitimate site that listens to them is really going to suffer.

    “We believe that if you willingly censor ALL pirate sites, then people won’t know how to pirate anything and sales will go through the roof.”

    Here’s the reality: They have female artists like Katy Perry, Nicki Minaj (I know, it doesn’t seem right putting them together), and Justin Bieber representing pop music.  They have Pitbull and Kanye West everywhere.  Just terrible music.  And they want people to pay for that crap.

    If google were to censor pirate sites, people would still go to TPB.  If they don’t know how to do that, they’ll just go to dogpile, yahoo, ask, or basically any one of the MANY search engines.  But I don’t think anyone at google would be so stupid as to listen to those morons.  They have no idea what the hell they’re talking about.

    • Mister Rogers

       “Google should investigate…”

      I won’t even bother with the rest of this quote, but I can fix it.

      “Google should do our job for us so that we don’t have to complain.” – but, still a lie.

    • Anyone

      even if it is removed from Google they can just ask their friends

    • Kjnjhbjh

      lol i see new search engines appearing for just pirated sites… release the script/DB around the web and soon any1 can host it …. :D

    • http://www.twitter.com/echoman74 echoman

      GRRr leave katy perry out of this DAMNIT as for nick minaj and lady gaga yes  BUT LEAVE KATY PERRY OUT OF THIS!!

      • Tanujprasad

         echoman nobody gives a fuck to their horrid music.are you gay?

        • http://www.twitter.com/echoman74 echoman

          Gay for liking a hot chick wtf seriously? Besides this topics old as fuck and i here katy perry is getting her own record label. Now stfu :)

    • 7seven85

       And , let’s be honest, if Google start to censor search results, it will be the end for them, people will change, and they will loose terrible amount of money.

      Just imagine if search engine such as Baidu (China) or Yandex (Russia) were more open to the whole world ?
      China and Russia dont give a flying fuck about the US’s lobbying, and the RIAA.

      • Asdf

         Google already censors a lot of shit, including a lot of shit that’s not even related to entertainment.

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          Only because they are legally required to do that or they are trying to ‘meet the studios half-way’.

      • blah

        If you’ve got the knowledge to program a search engine yourself, you could be the next Google.

      • http://twitter.com/wondersz1 SurferITS

        Just in case, I occasionally use Yandex they really are
        consciously unaware of the copyrights. Same as Baidu, I hope.

  • Danny

    “DRM-free downloads, unlimited streaming, free ad-supported streaming and
    music backups in the cloud are a few highlighted examples of innovative
    developments.”, you are only just starting to catch up with what people want and already have so its far from innovative, people have been doing it for years morons!

    It would have been innovative 10 years ago and you wouldn’t have this problem!

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      They don’t really have a problem at the moment. 99% of people who ‘pirate’ DON’T HAVE THE MONEY TO BUY THE LEGITIMATE THING IN QUESTION ANYWAY!

      So, the bottom line is that even if the ‘pirates’ weren’t getting their stuff for free, they still wouldn’t be getting anymore money.

      • Danny

        Too true!

      • Anony Mouse

         Or said people live in a foreign country and cannot use iTunes to buy things legitimately.

        Seems to me to be rather short-sided to cry about your lack of money, but at the same time refuse to allow people outside the US to buy your stuff and/or have a paid for or free alternative to pirating.

  • Gouched

    As the RIAA etc. Keep trying all this crap, it’s important that the more technical among us educate the masses on how to get round their efforts. Share tpb proxies on facebook, install a vpn for your brother/sister and so on. Our strength is in our numbers and the technical innovators keeping the sharing alive.

  • Anonymous

    as per usual, the entertainment industries want to do nothing themselves to protect or promote their wares but everyone else is expected to the dirty work for them, at their own expense. the main thing they are promoting, trying to get the US government and ultimately all governments, to do is expand surveillance and censorship, all because they wont adapt to the digital age themselves. if any other industry were to exhibit such selfish behaviour and expectations, they would be condemned out of hand. why is it in their case, governments everywhere are bending over and grabbing their ankles to accommodate them? i hope, but doubt, that all search engines will join together in refusing to do this and go on to fight against all these industries demands! i live in hope!!

    • http://www.twitter.com/echoman74 echoman

      Don’t expect BING  to aka Microsoft.

    • Tanujprasad

       anonymous…pls create a network which supports .tpb

  • townie2

    plenty of other search engines out there, or you can just bookmark your favorite sites.

  • Freja

    There are plenty of alternatives to Google and Bing.
    Yandex, Duck duck go, Clusty, Dogpile, Baidu, etc.

    And if Google and Bing can’t stand up tp this pressure, then I’ll take my business elsewhere.

    • Google Aint Stupid

      yeah it’s simple – if google start censoring the searches people want, then their customers will find an alternative. they know this and thats why they will do their utmost to ignore them.

  • Pianogamer

    “Riaa should investigate why it has such a high volume of complaints
    from consumers, and whether additional procedural or technical
    changes could be made to assure legal activity, thereby lessening
    complaints.”

    Fix’d

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  • Anon

    One does not simply tell Google to stop…

    btw is google working for the RIAA? NO.

    Will google get any money to remove these links? NO.

    is the RIAA hurting Google’s business? I bet all my gold on this.

    • Shitaphor

      Typing in basic search terms and not getting the results I was after was the reason I stopped using Altavista.

      If I were Google, I’d fight this.

  • http://www.totallyfuzzy.net/ mephisto

    I’m not exactly a fan of the RIAA or their agenda but they do have a point. When I was searching for album reviews a while ago all the first results were not even album reviews but (illegal) downloads. And that was very consistent for most albums I looked up. Why is google not even giving me the reviews first – if not only -  if I explicitly search for album reviews? Their search results really could and should be a bit more to the point and accurate. If not because of the anti-piracy agenda of the RIAA then simply because of the annoyance it causes for their (regular) users. If I search for eggs don’t give me an omelet.

    • Fredrika

      > “When I was searching for album reviews a while ago all the first results were not even album reviews but (illegal) downloads.”

      What presedent higher court sentences said that those downloads were illegal? Or are you just guessing?

      > “And that was very consistent for most albums I looked up. Why is google not even giving me the reviews first – if not only -  if I explicitly search for album reviews?”

      Can you please provide me with an example of a search query in the format of “artist name album title review“, where this happens? Because i tried a couple of such searches now, with both old and new albums, with query’s formatted that way, and i found no downloads until way after the first 50 results.

      > “Their search results really could and should be a bit more to the point and accurate.”

      Antoher way to look at it is that you should download the album, listen to it and review it yourself, instead of listening it the opinions of others. Maybe Google are trying to help you think for yourself? =)

      • http://www.totallyfuzzy.net/ mephisto

        >> What presedent higher court sentences said that those downloads were illegal? Or are you just guessing?

        you’re kidding right? As if most people around here don’t know where to get illegal downloads, on what sites and or blogs. But that’s not the point anyway.

        >> Can you please provide me with an example of a search query in the format of “artist name album title review”,

        no, because it’s been a while, the query was ‘artist name album title album review’

        >> Antoher way to look at it is that you should download the album, listen to it and review it yourself, instead of listening it the opinions of others.
        Err… unless you know what I needed those album reviews for – which you don’t as your reply makes obvious – I suggest you refrain from making such utterly stupid comments. The web, including this site, uses links to point people to additional information or references. Maybe you should learn to think first. And next… think before you talk rubbish or feel compelled to play the smartass while you don’t seem to have the slightest clue.

        • Anyone

          so you wanted to copy those reviews because you are not capable of having your own opinion?

        • Fredrika

          > “As if most people around here don’t know where to get illegal downloads, on what sites and or blogs.”

          Illegal? Just because you believe something is illegal doesn’t necessarily make it so. Please give me an example of an album you’re interested in, and i will provide you with a legal link to a legal site which helps people legally download that album for free, regardless of the opinion if the copyright holder, and most likely that will be a result you would incorrectly classify as illegal.

          > “no, because it’s been a while, the query was ‘artist name album title album review’

          Not one single example? Yet you said these strange results were consistent for most albums you looked up?> “Err… unless you know what I needed those album reviews for – which you don’t as your reply makes obvious – I suggest you refrain from making such utterly stupid comments.”Maybe i feel like being silly today, since it obvious that you are a troll and that your comment contained lies about search results?> “The web, including this site, uses links to point people to additional information or references. Maybe you should learn to think first. And next… think before you talk rubbish or feel compelled to play the smartass while you don’t seem to have the slightest clue.”Ooh, i should learn to think first now, coming from the person who unlike all others that have no problems with Google’s well renowned search results, manages to get incorrect search results, and then mysteriously is completely unable to provide one single example of a query that would produce such a search result.

        • Asd

           Oh look everyone, a paid shill!

          way to blow, mephisto.

        • HappyArtist

           >>no, because it’s been a while, the query was ‘artist name album title album review’

          Let’s try it.
          blotted science – artist
          the animation of entomology – album title
          album review

          http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=blotted+science+the+animation+of+entomology+album+review

          Hmmmm… All I see are reviews and places to buy the album legally. There may be links to torrents somewhere in the results, but not on the first few pages. Strange, I looked for reviews and found reviews.

        • C_catuara

          dude youre a tool working with or for the iraa youre not fooling anyone on here. no examples no facts. did you forget? everyone uses google so everyone knows youre lying

    • Anyone

      Google simple puts what is most popular on top

      if that are (supposedly illegal) downloads that’s not the fault of Google.
      make the crappy “official” sites better and they will be more popular, problem solved

      • http://www.totallyfuzzy.net/ mephisto

        That isn’t the point is it? I was searching for album reviews.. so why did I not get the most popular album reviews? THAT is the issue. And that is whay I said that the RIAA has a point when they say that google should/could fix some of their search results.Not that I give a hoot about the RIAA, but it’s annoying if I do a search and I get unrelated results so it could/should be fixed. 

        • http://www.totallyfuzzy.net/ mephisto

          >> so you wanted to copy those reviews because you are not capable of having your own opinion?

          Some of you people are such numbskulls; Have you ever looked at an album’s page on wikipedia? How do you think those reviews and links get there? They don’t come falling out of the blue heavens, Some people have to do research to compile all that stuff. So they search for them. Not because they have no opinion or are incapable of forming their own, but so they can compare opinions/reviews and present them to those who are interested in them. Don’t tell me this had never even occurred to you. 

          And with this, this discussion is finished as far as I’m concerned.
          Why I was looking for those reviews isn’t even relevant to the story posted.

        • Anyone

          not exactly sure how the google algorithm works but you probably used too much other words besides “review” so google deemed that not important enough

          and no, google should not manually interfere in their algorithm just because a failing business says so.

          there is nothing to fix with google in this regard, all the fixing has to be done by the MAFIAA

        • Asd

           You are making quite the fool of yourself with your nonsense rhetoric.

          Basically you’re recommending that google should do the RIAA’s job?

          IT’S THEIR JOB TO DEFEND THEIR COPYRIGHT, not google’s. I don’t understand how people can so blindly think that the RIAA is right on ANY count.

          They fabricate their numbers. Even someone like you can’t hide that fact.
          They push for guilty-until-proven-innocent schemes… You’re seriously ok with that?
          They are glorified middle men. They produce nothing. They have no notable skills.

          They have money.

          Any time you agree with ANYTHING they say, you’re agreeing with all the above bullshit.

          If you do, sorry man. That’s a pathetic way to live. I hope you grow out of it and open your eyes. The world isn’t the black and white picture they are selling you.

    • Anonymous

      That’s odd. I type in “Album Review” with an artist name and I get album reviews for the first few pages on Google. Maybe it’s the question you ask in the search engine.  I think your question should be a bit more accurate. Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer.

      Maybe you should learn to think first. And next… think before you talk
      rubbish or feel compelled to play the smartass while you don’t seem to
      have the slightest clue.

      Ohhh, I think you’re outclassed here. Fredrika asked you to provide an example (or your own) of a search engine query, and you could not because it’s been awhile? You forget how to format a simple query? Album review nicky minaj?  No, I don’t think you’re outclassed, I know it.  And I guess you would need to download a review, aka plagiarize, for your school report, rather than formulate your own.

      If I search for eggs don’t give me an omelet.

      Just curious…. what is an omelet? Closest I could get was (and this was with just a quick search):

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omelette
      In cuisine, an omelette or omelet is a dish made from beaten eggs

      Just sayin’………

    • Nil By Mouth

      That’s funny, because when I use Google’s boolean search functionality properly, it returns the most relevant results first. For instance if I type ”[artist name] album review” where I replace [artist name] with the artist’s or album’s name I get a links to reviews at the top of the search results. The key is in using the inverted commas to tell google you want to search for that exact phrase. Otherwise Google will look for each of the separate words in your search term and possibly rank others as more relevant – perhaps because those sites have better SEO to manipulate organic search results.

      • Nil By Mouth

        Additionally, if you want to discount certain filetypes from your search results in Google and look only for webpages you can include terms such as +html +asp +php -mp3 -jpg -mov -avi and it the engine will return links to the ‘+’ filetypes and not the ‘-’ filetypes. This is pretty basic boolean search stuff that I thought everybody already knew about. And if you’re struggling with a simple websearch or knowing how to use the boolean terms correctly there’s the ‘advanced search’ link which will do this for you through a simple GUI.

    • Capital

       You do know that Google tailors the results of your seraches based on your previous searches and other criterias

      http://www.ted.com/talks/eli_pariser_beware_online_filter_bubbles.html

      at 2 minutes he starts to talk about Google results.

      Check 2:45 when he talks about the experiment regarding different search results for Egypt.

      So what I wanted to point out, if you search for a specific kind of material, then Google will promote this material for you on your OTHER searches. So this tells us more about your search habbits than anything else.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Dilly/1624894683 Don Dilly

    Google would do far better filter any site that threatens network neutrality (in its widest sense) that would include riaa,mpaa and their member sites and should include any advertisersand transaction companies that do their bidding.

  • http://twitter.com/Anime4PSP Anime 4 PSP

    Erm, if they name is “future of audio”, why the fuck you’re so eager to step back into the past, you greedy bastards? -_-

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  • Fanden

    Would be great if TPB or a similar site would make their own search engine.

    • blah

      No it wouldn’t- their torrent search engine sucks.

  • Andrew Lee

    Seriously who needs Google to find pirated shit rofl.. Information travels fast and there’s so much it’s almost impossible to keep up with.  The abundance of information means it’s overflowing from just about everywhere. Yeah I know a lot of peoples computer usage does not go much farther than Google,Facebook,YouTube, and a few torrent sites.

    If they really want that to change they just have to get some search engines to agree to their terms.
    Although I very much doubt they really want it to stop. They know search engines will never agree to such censorship.
    It’s just a diversion tactic nothing more… It’s far too profitable to extort fans out of millions.

    While they keep spreading their anti piracy news we’re all running around like a bunch of chickens with their heads cut off and overlooking the big picture.

    The only thing they’re interested in is money and it does not matter where it comes from. As long as everyone things their crazy copyright whores that want to kill freedom to transfer data they can abuse courts to extort mass amounts of cash from us all.

    How do they keep up this appearance?
    They demand shit that’s so ridiculous we get distracted from the truth.

    What do they really want?
    Laws to make it more easy to track people down to extort.
    They’re making so much fucking money from it why in the hell would they want it to stop?

    What does a person spend a year on music? 50$? 100$? 500$?
    Some people spend more some less but the avg lawsuit brings them 3,000 to 12,000$

    Lets just say 7,500$ avg and a avg of 275$/yr per person spent. “The nation wide avg is far below that..” Even at 275$ that’s 27 years of profits in one lawsuit.

    Now you tell me why in the hell would they want that to stop?

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  • Guest

    It’s all bullshit.

    People who know how to pirate, won’t be affected by google censorship.

    People who DON’T know how to pirate will just go to google and type in “free music” or something like that, and none of these searches will see the likes of piratebay at the top, you get the likes of Grooveshark, Jango and Spotify etc.

    The middle group of people will just be taught by others, again not needing Google.

    Even if they got their own way – I don’t see how this will affect anything. Unless they are trying to close the argument of bittorrent sites that they are only an index and you should also sue google as well…

  • Mark

    But I thought USA fight to maitain freedom! ( well to a certain degree) this is not Iran or North Korea. Still the RIAA and MPAA still do not listen to what people want or how they want to consume films and music etc. Money money is all they think about.

    Isohunt and TPB etc are used for legit stuff as well so since they are not 100% pirate sites how would a fair process be put in place….

  • https://profiles.google.com/112465978330780138853 Ryoku

    first they ask that sites voluntarily censor deviant sites then they use the compliance of those businesses as evidence to make it law. in the end they position themselves in a way that gives them the authority to decide who is deviant on the net with the bottom line of bolstering their own sales. total BS i how Google tells them which body of water to jump in…

    • Glib

      This is so very right.  Step 1, remove “free” sites. Step 2, once all the “free” sites are gone, you jack the hell out of your fees to the point where “services that pay royalties but are not in bed with the RIAA” cannot feasibly pay, they become “illegal” or close on their own. Step 3, now that the free sites and sites that piss you off because they have rediculously low profit margins are “gone”, you go back to your monopoly and profit.

      Too bad that’d take like 15 years to accomplish, and people that are 20 now would be 35 by then, so most of the Internet-retarded crew will be gone / not consuming RIAA provided trash.

      Really, it’s a race that we the people are winning simply because we’re alive and aging, carrying our knowledge of what we think is fair along with us, and handing it off to our children.  The RIAA is just so sadly far behind the curve.

      IPv6, however, could easily screw the average Internet user over; tying an IP address to a physical device.  If I was the RIAA, i’d be pushing to legislate the conversion in the US, and at least have a viable suing business model setup for 5 years from now.

  • Itsevilbert

    What stupid idea will be next, if this is allowed ?

    Trojan and Durex demand that google (and bing!) censor by “technical changes” all religious anti sex sites to boost profit. As these sites are “violating their property” right.

    Abortion clinics demand censorship by “technical changes” all sites that promote the use of barrier devices, to boost profit. As these sites are violating their property right.

    Anyhow Google and Bing are American corporations, and if new legislation is pushed through Congress, greased with off the book bribes this would leave a ringed fence opening for a new search engine, unencumbered by American bribes^H^H^H^H^H^Hlaws. Maybe setup the new search engine in a nice friendly country like China, Democratic People’s Republic of Korea or IRAN. America is currently the worlds 2nd largest economy, in a decade or so with less thinking it will probably be 3rd.

    Oh and when did search engine results become “violating their property right”, I could maybe understand if someone was referring to http://maps.google.com or http://www.bing.com/maps/ in some way violating property rights, like privacy.

    • Anonymous

      I’m thinking the same…the US is literally trying to emasculate itself by creating an environment where anything even remotely resembling innovation and entrepreneurship is actively discouraged. China’s markets today make the US one look like a communist plan ecomomy in comparison.

      I think there’s a real chance that Google may have to relocate to Brazil or find itself outcompeted by Baidu in the future…

  • Anonymous

    lol, here is a big Middle Finger Salute to the RIAA lol.
    Privacy-Not.tk 

    • Anonymous

      Middle finger back at ya VigdaPigSpammer.

      The site you keep linking to say’s “Participate in P2P file sharing protocols, chat rooms, IRC and other popular protocols with complete privacy and anonymity.”

      In reality, true anonymity on the Internet is an illusion. Yes, a VPN is a step in the right direction but there is no such thing as 100% anonymity.

      • Guest

         I agree with you partially but I can’t agree on last sentence. 100% anonymity is possible but takes some work (location, fingerpriting, wireless, vpn…)

      • Anonymous

        100% anonymity may be impossible.

        Anonymity good enough to defeat everything but the concerted efforts of military intelligence, vast resources and quite a few black hat intrusion hacks however, is quite easy to obtain.

        The key is simply this: Does anyone want you badly enough to perform real-time cracks on your proxy servers in order to discern your real ip? If so, you may indeed be screwed. Otherwise not.

  • Vi

    how about a new news article
    “hacker activist group anonymous demands RIAA bend over and takes it like sissy bitch”

  • salvage salvage

    This will end Bittorenting as we know it because there is no other way to get to stuff on the Internet! Dooooomeed!

    These idiots make me want to pirate shit for real, like download, burn to a CD and then just wander the streets handing them out to strangers (It’s Avengers, hi-def, just pop it into your regular DVD player and enjoy, no free!)  in hopes that their industry collapses and these idiots will have to get jobs that require brains / end up starving on the street.

    • Anon

      I might just do that :3

  • mwhahaha

    Why don’t they just make their own search engine… oh yeah cos no one would use it…

  • Anonymous

    MPAA and RIAA share in the ownership of Obama (along with Goldman-Sachs and Big Pharma) so we can expect the Democrats to regulate the Internet in their favor.  Once the Republicans take over, they will favor war profiteers and religious tyrants so censorship will follow (have to stop terrorism and protect children.

    • Anonymous

      Sock puppet Mk 1 vs sock Puppet Mk 2…no discernible difference here.

  • Guest

    Funny how all theri examples off innovation are not from the, but rather, from individuals outside the RIAA’s command, individuals they actually have targeted and attacked.

    The RIAA’s only contribution to society is slowly poisoning the internet with artificial blockades and sabotaging new artists.

    This is typicall MAFIAA behaveiour, they ask and ask and ask and slowly they get away with whatever they want.
    They could legalize murder of pirates if they wanted to, and they might well go for it eventually.
    They used to only ask for the priority but now it is censorship, soon it will be more.
    So send some letters, make buzz, talk to friends.
    The politicians often act based on bribes, exchange of incluences and political power but they also act on ignorance and simple pragmatism.
    If they had to pick between votes and the MAFIAA’s grace they will pick votes.
    So send the message clear: If you support the MAFIAA’s censorhsip then you are an enemy of the people and you shall be booted out of that power and say goodbye to that pretty politician lifestyle.

    Search engines will obviously fight back, so they are the ones we have to support but most will always put their business above freedom and justice so they need our support too.

  • Anonymous

    It’s no good guys, we need a new internet. This one’s broken.

  • guest

    I want a Billion Dollars and My own Island where the RIAA and MPAA are not allowed on…

    • Anonymous

      You’ll find the going rate on hitmen much more cost-efficient in that regard. Just sayin…

  • Anon

    “Cary Sherman will stress that more needs to be done to stop online
    piracy. In particular, search engines such as Google and Bing have to
    take responsibility and come up with appropriate technological
    solutions.”

    Are companies, that produce weapons, take any responsibility for how their users use it? So many civilian casualties in the United States, but none of the companies are not responsible for this? Guns do not kill people, people kill people … It is not the search results pirating the music, people do. Nevertheless, ban the net! Stupid dumbass RIAA.

  • http://Not.Telling/ Kr0nZ

    pointing out that the image of the music business as an innovation-shy industry is misplaced. DRM-free downloads, unlimited streaming, free ad-supported streaming and music backups in the cloud are a few highlighted examples of innovative developments.

    Umm please show even ONE example of this, RIAA provideing DRM free audio will be when pigs fly, and I have a Midas touch.

  • Kernel Sanders: Chicken Lover

    These 
    “rogue” sites could turn into political speech sites real fast.

    • Anonymous


      These 

      “rogue” sites could turn into political speech sites real fast.”
      Google “Pirate Party”.

      They already have.

  • Anon

    As said above eventually a new search engine will start in a country that is not going to bow down to the EU or America, it is coming closer and closer as more and more people stop using google for searching, I changed my homepage from google to duckduckgo the other day and will encourage more of my family and friends to do the same. So America loses another top internet business because of there greed. When will they learn that the international community will just ignore there demands and hide themselves from governments trying to spy on what they are doing on the internet, and in encouraging the programmers to develop tools that can hide our activities so that we can share it is making the search for pedos and terrorists difficult if not impossible in some cases. Therefore we can correctly state that the RIAA is making it easier for pedos and terrorists to communicate using the internet.

  • Guest

    “DRM-free downloads, unlimited streaming, free ad-supported streaming and music backups in the cloud are a few highlighted examples of innovative developments”

    The RIAA hates all of those things with a passion and fought tooth and nail to prevent them from happening. What a foggy memory Cary Sherman has.

  • ivan

    Even if Google and Bing censor torrents, we’ll just use Yahoo, haha.
    Never mind just bookmark TorrentZ.
    They are doing everything to censor a just little of the internet. 

    They will never win.

  • Anonymous

     and who, exactly, is going to decide which sites are ‘pirate’? if it’s left to the entertainment industries, there wont be a site left, unless it’s one of their own, because they dont want/like any sites at all. that brings in those that are not related to anything remotely connected to those industries but are religious sites or political sites for example. one party will want another party’s site shut and the whole sorry mess of censorship gets worse and worse. eventually, instead of having the best distributing and advertising medium on the planet, we go back in time and, as these industries want, we have to go to the shop again to buy whatever we want. talk about progress!! why doesn’t any government have the balls to tell them to get the fuck out of here!!

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  • HustleHard

    I’ve never used a search engine to find any dl…wtf

  • lolRiaa

    So… wouldn’t this just make it harder for public trackers to be found out? It doesn’t seem that bad to me… also piracy will never go away. Anywho private trackers are the best irregardless and the riaa can’t really stop those.

    • Anonymous

      Actually, it is quite bad. Imagine a “search engine” where if you google any word appearing in a song or title anywhere your first top 100 results are all going to be “MPAA/RIAA-approved ‘legal’ sites for purchasing media”.

      Even if what you were looking for were “Iraq war”, “Current news”, or “icanhazcheesburgers”.

      Like having a dictionary where every word definition refers you to an index page where it says “For a good time, call 1-800-MPAA”.

    • BJonesTF

      Of course they wouldn’t stop them, that stops the easy cash cow of settlement demands… because they’re on them, or even run them.

      Thinking a ‘registration required’, or ‘activity logged’ tracker (more accurate terms than ‘private tracker’) is somehow safer is amusing…

  • MAFIAA

    RIAA – “We’re less than half the size we used to be:   
    Down to $7 billion in 2011 from nearly $15 billion in 1999.”   This is because nobody buys CDs anymore. 
    Censoring Google will never help bring back CDs.  Vinyl, 8-Track, Cassette, VHS, CD – never coming back!  Sucks to be MAFIAAhttp://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-20078411-261/riaas-sales-numbers-a-closer-look/

    • MAFIAA
    • Anyone

      it’s also because independent labels got more marketshare over the last few years, mostly thanks to the internet
      in fact the indy label share is bigger than any of the RIAA members

      there you have the real reason they want to neuter the net

    • blah

      They don’t seem to realize, the more they struggle and keep up their lobbying *cough* bribery, and sending out their hordes of lawyers, the more they piss off the same people who they depend on to provide them with sales. People are no longer dependent on their limited selection of shallow crap. There are plenty of decent tunes available for free and I’m not even talking about illegal torrents. I’m hoping that their time in this world will come to an end soon, as they continue to shoot themselves in the foot. 

  • 342534

    search watch free movies online and look at the results you get
    sorry but the riaa does have a point

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      No, they don’t have a point in the slightest. What you are forgetting is that most people are ALREADY paying for a cable TV subscription and therefore the fucking RIAA and MPAA have ALREADY GOTTEN THEIR MONEY.

      They are just trying to double-dip in consumer’s pockets at this point.

    • Guest

      They have no point, if they want to get to the top of the search results its all possible, all they have to do is play the search result game like everyone else or you can cheat by paying for adds. Which i see some of them have already done

      http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=watch+free+movies+online

    • Fredrika

      > “search watch free movies online and look at the results you get”

      You get results directing you to what you were looking or, what’s wrong with that? That’s the entire point with a search engine.

      > “sorry but the riaa does have a point”

      How is that? Why should search results be distorted to benefit a particular entrepreneur? If a site is available on-line and people search for terms which those sites best matches, obviously those sites should appear at the top. Riaa’s opinion on this is completely irrelevant, because the Riaa is not the authorities, nor are Google.

      If anyone has a problem with a site they should contact the authorities in the country where the site operates from, and if the judicial system there has no problem with the site, like with Pirate Bay in Sweden, obviously it should stay up and people should get search results pointing to that site if their search term best matches what that site offers.

    • Danny

      Hmmm, my first two hits are for iTunes and Netflix……

      Oh, I see…… I used the correct search term, “watch movies online”.

      You searched for free movies and you’re surprised that Google returns proper results???

  • BlurrTheTechnicolor

    Google and Bing should just tell the RIAA no problem we can do it all but theres a yearly charge of 150 million $ each lets see what they gonna say about that HAHAHAHA

  • http://twitter.com/puromonogatari s0beit

    Why doesn’t the RIAA understand that they’re not running the show and that they’re the ones coming to other people with their hands out, begging others to fix their internal marketing problems?
    Search engines should just tell them to fuck off, not that it matters. If there’s censorship for piracy then somebody will make a piracy search engine. Hell, I’m a programmer and I’d do it.

  • http://profiles.google.com/jhjelsma Joel J

    of course they do! if you can’t find the real site on google then you will have to guess the domain name and that means more people will fall for imesh clone scam clients like bearshare, lphant and fakeaza which they are undoubtedly earning money off of

  • Baba

    If that should happen, I forsee a new website ‘thepiratesearch.org’ .

    Also I wonder if the RIAA would want Google to unlist a search result that lists a search engine, that can search for a site, that offers links?

    • Guest

      They would want every site that offers information on how to circumvent blocked. Proxy’s to be blocked, Tor to be blocked,everything gets blocked, even torrentfreak. Hopefully before this happens some massive corporation will make a fuss, the media will be forced to take notice and at least sites like torrent freak and forurms might not be blocked or cencored. Trust they want everything blocked, it will take time and small steps.

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  • Alyssa Blindy

    I have found that when i search for book summaries and plots, amazon comes up first, trying to get me to buy the book. It is quite annoying. Imagine searching for a song’s lyrics, or meaning, and getting something asking yu to buy the song everywhere because the RIAA got their wish here?
    No.
    That is not right.
    I believe that if anything, a disclaimer should be put under the search results saying to be careful when downloading media, because some media downloads may be illegal. That’s about it though. If I am searching for music lyrics, a book’s plot, movie plots, software reviews from non biased sites, reviews of audio books, etc, I don’t think I should have links telling me to buy buy buy. because chances are, I already have bought the media content, or otherwise obtained it at a library or other place like that.

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  • h33t

    Censor the censors!

    Censor anyone who demands cenorship (problematic convoluted sentence for MAFIIA Mols, FU)

    http:h33t.com/ growing strong on MAFIAA lies, you TARDS

  • Chilly8

    Nne alternate history site has a timline where a law known as PICCA (Protecting Internet Commerce and Communications Act), combining elements of HA1981, SOPA, ACTA, PIPA, CISPA, ACTA, TPP, and Secure-It is passed, and proves to be worse than anhything ever conceived.

    You have to wonder if something like PICCA is going to come down the pike next year.

  • Anti-Terror

    “In other words, “legitimate” search results should be boosted while
    “illegitimate” sites are degraded. The RIAA further suggests that the
    massive amount of DMCA complaints can be reduced by “technical changes,”
    a fancy way to describe censorship.” 

    “Legitimate” mean their stuff ” “Illegitimate” mean the stuff of others they don’t control.

    Good one Shit-man! Your are a fucking parasite. I will sheer the day you will hang on a rope like Saddam Hussein or with half your head shopped off like Ben Laden, you terrorist!

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  • dilligan

    I hope Google censors these “legitimate sites”… And while they’re at it they might as well cencor the RIAA and the MAFIAA…

    Morons! Freaking morons! 

  • http://www.facebook.com/orphicdragon Trisha Lynn Dragon

    Still can’t process the amount of brain damage it would take for me to legitimately believe and demand someone else should pay and ensure my business (that I am too stupid to keep competitive) is not affected by a better, faster, smarter and cheaper option. 

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  • UniversalSoldier

    I don’t understand why google listens to such bullies. They should also give a warning that if things continue like this, they will shut their shop and MPAA / RIAA would be responsible for the loss of jobs etc.

  • 35A7ADC3

    Hi, we’re a bunch of filthy rich rent seekers, and would like to advertize our worthless shit for free on your search engine. Also, pretty please censor the competition out as well, that’d be groovy. All at your own expense of course, ’cause we’re so special.

  • Beefjerky

    Man, the RIAA is lucky I’m not running Google. If I was getting pressured to change my website just to please them, I’d give the thumbs up to remove all RIAA and its affiliated content completely. People will Google “Nicki Minaj” and guess what? “0 results”. Good luck RIAA. Make your own “Most Popular Search Engine Ever” if you want your shit to come up.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=775334417 Ralph Chastain

    I don’t think this is possible. They would have to censor too many sites.

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  • Guest

    Fascism is taking over the Internet!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/II3GBDZ3CN2A525UWZ35PIFVNA Eddie

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  • DRuNKeN MaSTeR

    “…search engines would no longer link to “infringing sites” such as The Pirate Bay and isoHunt.” -> That’s why I have these sites in my Bookmarks Toolbar, for fast 1-click access.

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  • Uth

    To be honest i dont actually care what they do and i even support them in asking that legal results bump up . When entertainment lobby does not try to rape my civil liberty i support them ! I think piracy should have never become so spread anyway …

  • guest

    Can you imagine what MAFIAA could have come up with for future business models if it redirected all the money and effort that it’s wasting trying to stop piracy by controlling the internet…

  • guest

     when a company begins to depend in legislation for protection against the forces of the free market, it means they are un-innovative, unimaginative and un-creative. a company doesn’t have a right to exist in a free market, just because you say so and because you have made lots of money in the past. it is the voice of the free market that determines if you continue to exist. calling on the government to change the rules of free market for your own benefit is base and banal.

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  • Gg

    I got my ZippyShare and Jumbofiles

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