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Russia Wants To Fine Websites For Poor Copyright Takedowns

The Russian government is proposing a fresh approach to the way website operators and service providers are expected to handle copyright takedowns. In a draft law the Ministry of Culture says that takedowns should be executed very quickly and failure to meet the deadlines will result in cash fines, 90 day suspensions and even server confiscations. Critics say it’s the DMCA twisted heavily in favor of rightsholders.

When it comes to the enforcement of copyright Russia is hardly the poster boy of the world’s intellectual property focused companies. In recent years the country has been subjected to intense criticism, especially from the United States, over its failure to curtail piracy both off and online.

It’s expected that Russia will eventually harden its currently lax approach to copyright but if the latest news coming out of the government there is anything to go by, that might be much sooner than most people expected.

A draft law filed by the Ministry of Culture on January 25 proposes that Russia toughens its approach to the handling of copyright takedowns to a level that will terrify technology businesses and give rightsholders a reason to party.

Under current laws such as the DMCA and other regional equivalents, website operators and hosts are required to remove allegedly infringing content once they receive a properly formatted “good faith” complaint. The system is widely used with Google receiving millions of such notices every week. However, if Russia’s draft law is approved, life is going to get very difficult for intermediaries.

The proposed amendments to current legislation will see hosting providers and site owners subjected to strict rules on how they must deal with takedown requests from copyright holders. Website operators will be given a day to remove or block content with hosts given an extra day in the event they have to discuss the takedown request with websites they host.

Furthermore, before allegedly infringing files are removed site owners will be required to make copies and make them available – along with the uploader’s personal details – to “competent authorities or rightsholders.”

But what will really scare Internet businesses is the Ministry of Culture’s proposal to fine companies that fail to meet the standards laid out above. Should a takedown request be dealt with improperly the government is suggesting penalties of between 3,000 rubles ($100) for individuals, increasing to a maximum of 500,000 rubles ($16,630) for businesses. Add on 90 day business suspensions and confiscation of servers and the package is enough to give rightsholders a reason to celebrate.

A lawyer at Mail.ru, a company that has faced legal action in the past due to users uploading copyrighted content, said the Ministry of Culture did not consult industry experts.

“Current legislation fully protects the rights holders, including the Internet,” said Anton Malginova. “Introduction of new mechanisms, not based on the Civil Code, are excessive, disproportionate and inconsistent with the goals and methods of regulation.”

Alexander Panov, Managing Partner at Hostcomm, an organization that represents the largest Russian hosting providers and domain registrars, said the proposals could prove considerably problematic.

“Our experience shows that 90% of these [copyright] complaints are without foundation,” he said, adding that to expect site owners to comply within a day is “actually impossible.”

The draft legislation does offer a small level of balance to Internet users subjected to takedown complaints. Challenges to incorrect notices can be made within 10 days and if rightsholders still insist on content being taken down they can take their case to court. If they fail to file a case within a month, site owners and hosts may lawfully reinstate the disputed content. Users subjected to wrongful claims can demand compensation.

The draft law, filed last Friday and signed by the President of the Russian Federation, ends with a note that it will enter law “90 days after its official publication.”

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  • Fr3d

    “Our experience shows that 90% of these [copyright] complaints are without foundation,”

    90% wow! MAFIAA et. al. are no doubt behind this. Go on Russia!

  • cupid_stunt

    the dictator has stirred his online pot of oil. the world shakes and waits in anticipation. bring it on Putin

    • ybgojhvn

      oh yeah, I bet he’s shaking in his big ol’ boots, right

    • nono

      The man was elected democratically, he’s no more a dictator than Obama or pretty much any of our western leaders.

  • cominista

    eat shit for cash muppets.

  • Zowiemoon

    Thank F**k the rogue bear is finally waking from its hibernation. Another piracy refuge closing up shop. Long overdue.

    • Guest

      Yes, because it’s important to stop people from playing traditional songs at free charity concerts. Die, pirate scum!

      Has bobmail rewarded you with his share of Robert King’s industry jizz?

    • http://profiles.google.com/pianogamer Knut Harald

      Carribean on the other hand, woke up from hibernation from piracy…

      • 1hhh1

        what you mean?

        • Techanon

          antigua

    • js

      “Users subjected to wrongful claims can demand compensation.”
      so if 90% are without foundation, Thats 90% that will need compensating. LMAO thats a lot of money

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      “Thank F**k the rogue bear is finally waking from its hibernation. “

      What you meant to say was “Thank f**k Putin finally woke up to how convenient a censorship tool an unfettered DMCA would be”?

      Because I’m sure it’s not in the interest of Russia’s genius dictator to be able to shutter any site he wants by default while a glitching automated DMCA notice tool gets the blame.

      It’s not the first time either. Ask Georgia how they felt when Russian troops crossed the borders looking for “Chechnyan terrorists” supposedly hiding in the mountains right after GWB unilaterally took his “coalition of the willing” into Iraq.

      The US sets the standard, Russia laughs and rolls out their own agenda while the USA sputters in disbelief – and with no moral ground to stand on any longer.

      Putin may be the most brilliant “statesman” in the modern day and age. Because while todays career politicians were learning how to kiss ass and nod, he was learning who best to kill to get his way, and how to do it. And given that he was due to be next chief for the KGB’s foreign directorate, he must have been pretty good at it.

      Go ahead and imagine that Russia is doing this because they give a rat’s ass about “Copyright”. Or that what they do will benefit the copyright industry.

    • n_mailer

      “the rogue bear”

      Only elderly tools call Russia the bear.

      “piracy”

      Hostcomm reported that almost all takedown requests are for legitimate content, so this is no more about piracy than it is about stealing, rape, embezzlement, murder or jaywalking.

      It will, however, give “everyone” censor power over Russian-based Internet communications services. I can think of a few U.S. police departments and corporations who would love to see this takedown-or-be-punished, review-someday policy here, and not to “close up shop” for camcordered Skyfall, either.

      You may think you’re just being funny, or at worst, collecting $25 from a MAFIAA member. We know you’re posting lies to protect goons that make the MAFIAA look like Angry Birds.

      • ScrewEwe2

        Thanks for reminding me, I have to go download the latest cracked version of Angry Birds.

  • fummig

    Putin like try punish all Pirates over the world, all Hail Putin!!!!

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  • swes87

    wow. you think by now that these companies would be trying to make their content available globally, affordable, and accessible on a range of devices with no drm. it is clearly what everyone wants and needs. instead they get the gov involved to go for another draconian/caveman approach to the problem.

    they should be looking at pirating as competition. any other industry wouldve seen innovation by now. even big companies like apple and amazon are realizing that these guys are missing out so they launched their own platforms instead. am i the only one that could imagine a huge Universal/Warner type app available on every device imaginable.

    when will they learn lol.. i would actually love to pay for the convenience of not searching the internet for what i want. my blu ray collection might sky rocket if they figure out a way to make redeeming and owning digital copies a lot easier.

    • asswipe

      does not matter how affordable it was made!!! Bits of shit like you would still steal it.. THANKFULLY YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED HA HA HA HA HA HA AH AHA HA AHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

      • swes87

        Good thing I have managed to accumulate 10TB worth of content over the years so the joke is on you buddy! Its funny how you call me names when you don’t even know me. I could be one of your family members, co workers or best friends so why don’t you go call them that. More people than you know use these services, obviously for reasons you can’t even think of lol. Kinda says something about your intelligence and even your understanding of how people think and feel.

    • n_mailer

      I don’t think this is intended to address “piracy,” which, remember, is a made-up problem in the first place. People sharing files are no threat to anyone and at worst technically break one or two minor laws stretched to their breaking point.

      It’s intended to lock down Russia’s portion of the Internet.

      By calling it “anti-piracy” they trick us into defending “piracy” when we should be defending speech in general.

      When our resident trolls get brownshirted hard-ons for this kind of thing, I wonder if maybe they have long forgotten about the “artists” they once claimed to be defending.

      And no, digital fascism is not the fault of piracy any more than the Third Reich was the fault of rich Jews.

  • The Guy

    Looks like Russia surrendered to criticism and became America’s butt bitch. Damn Corps overstepping their boundaries.

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      Nope.

      Read up on Putin.

      Now read up on his history of being a quiet, reasonable man up until the point where the US leads the way by making a big blunder. Then watch him in, pulling his own version of the same stunt and instantly defusing all international criticism by saying “Look, I’m just following the example set by you guys here”.

      Right after GWB walked into Iraq, Russian soldiers crossed into Georgia, looking for Chechnyan “terrorists”. And goodbye, Georgian independence.

      Now Putin can pull down just about any site he wants to just by blaming a glitchy automated DMCA takedown generator. Stifling any voice without even the need to drag out the uniforms and guns. And I very much doubt he didn’t think of exactly that while allowing his useful idiots in the cultural department free reign.

      • Guest

        it’s interesting to note: here in Russian we have news agencies and they say it was war between Georgia and South Osetia and we just sent out troops – even in US their news agencies changed their story slightly from Russia > Georgia to Georgia > South Osetia (and Russia sending troops there)

        so you see US can twist their news too

        • Ray Carroll

          They do it everyday… Most of us here know that. People are paid these days to create news and manipulate news rather than reporting it. Fox News is the best at it, and the other networks are following suit. That’s why none of these News Networks have Investigative Journalists anymore. It cost to much to report actual fact based news.

        • Rezident_User

          Keep repeating that lie about Fox News, while MSNBC feels free to edit audio and video to “create” fake stories. They did it with the so-called “heckling” incident at Newtown just a couple of days ago, and they did it with the Treyvon Martin 911 tapes.

          You’re probably too busy agreeing with Ed Schultz and Rachel Maddow to notice you’re being lied to(not subtle, BLATANT) on a daily basis by the leftist dominated main stream media.

        • Ray Carroll

          They all do champ. But if you stop being upset for a minute and look at the history you might understand Fox News is the ones that pioneered the form of media we have today. The other Networks are just playing catchup in an effort to compete. You can’t depend on any one source for news today.

          You might want to cut back on the caffeine or try working out. You seem to be a little on edge.

        • ScrewEwe2

          The sad thing about the 3 cable News channels today is that so much of what they cover is politics. Today, MSNBC is totally Democrat slanted political talking head shows like “The Ed Show’, The “Rachel Madcow Show”, “Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell”, and all the daytime lineup of basically the same thing. MSNBC’s format change was a business decision to capture the eyeballs of viewers who are opposed to the Republican slant that Fox News has, with shows like “The O’Reilly Factor”, “Hannity”, “On The Record with Greta Van Cistern”, “The Five”, “Red Eye” and previously “The Glen Beck Show”. I will say this, when it comes to covering non-political News stories during the daytime, Fox News does a better job than MSNBC. CNN covers more and more politically related stories than they used to. I find myself having to watch all three channels to see “News”, but at this point, I mainly avoid wasting time watching the political “Talking Head” shows on all three channels, however I have watched all the shows on all three channels. Politics is cheaper to cover than general News. If I want to see politics I’ll watch CSPAN 1, 2 & 3 and watch Senate or Congressional hearings. I’m so damn sick of non-stop political coverage and could care less who’s going to be running for President in 2016. I get more and more of my News from the internet.

        • GreenPirate

          News is fake. If you don’t live there and you’re not involved first hand then you probably don’t know wtf is happening if you learned about it from news entertainment.

      • GreenPirate

        You have to admire him for that. He now has a valuable tool for censorship and none of the other big boys can say shit because they all do it too. It’s the best thing since split atoms!

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          Yup. Putin is a very very frightening man. He doesn’t bluster or run his mouth off, he doesn’t appear like a monster, he doesn’t indulge in wastes of energy such as gloating and grandstanding.

          He just ends up presenting the fact that you lost to you. While you’re still wondering just where you managed to head down Morton’s fork.

          In trope terms, Putin’s role is that of the Magnificent Bastard.

  • John

    Dont touch my rutracker.org !!! Bîtches

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  • Emannuel Goldstein

    The article reminds me of something.
    It is time now to analyze, and write my book….

  • ttytyty

    communists

    • 2013waitaminute

      dafuq?

  • jeff k

    he draft law, filed last Friday and signed by the President of the
    Russian Federation, ends with a note that it will enter law “90 days
    after its official publication.”

    so was it signed into law already? or was it it supposed say was once singed by by the president?

    • Russian Guest

      not yet. I’ll leave a reply here once (and if) it’s going to be sighed

  • 2013sUxAlready

    Ol’Putin got tired of all the webcomics and lols they made at his expense. Or maybe he really wants to crush ANY opposition out there because his own intelligence department can’t compete with all the anti-government propaganda ?

  • anonymous

    and i bet there will be no checking to see if the take downs are valid and no compensation for false take downs either! fucking entertainment industries all want shipping to the Sun, out of the way of ordinary, decent people!

    • dickforbrains

      who would you steal from then if you sent everyone to the sun….DICKHEAD

      • Andrew Lee

        You mean copy right? Because stealing implies you’re actually taking a physical item that cannot be replaced.

        Yeah I know I’m a dickhead, asshole, or whatever else you want to call me. If you want to make war on sharing you better do it in full down to a fucking pencil… Hypocrite!

  • townie2

    Russian politicians must be getting some REALLY big payoffs by the AA’s.

  • joe

    Aaaaand the pirate bay will laugh in their face

  • TechCrazy

    I think laws like this should be a double edged sword. Unlawful take downs should be a $100,000 fine per file taken down [websites generally have a few thousand files - so $100,000 x 9000 file website = $9,000,000,000 fine] to copywrite holders. So they really need to be damn sure its pirated material. Or be ready to be raped by their own greed.

    If the they want to lower the fine the CEO’s of all companies associated with take down will need to strip naked in Red Square, dance the irish river dance in perfect sequence [$1000 fine per mistake] and then donate their entire wealth to charity, to keep their company solvent.

    I think this would be fair as a double extreme for both sides.
    Who agrees?

  • Andrew Lee

    I have no respect for this system anymore not when they’re using DCMA notices to censor legitimate content. They consider IP addresses as people, they shoot first and ask later, and most importantly they lobby for laws that are 100 percent anti-freedom. If I was a religious man I’d condemn them all to hell. Lucky for them I’m not ;)

    • xpmule

      couldn’t agree more.
      when i first seen this story headline i thought the opposite..
      that Russia was going to fine people who make false DMCA claims.
      instead they went the opposite way with it all.. disappointing but not surprising.

      someone will snap and go postal on some of these assholes ..it’s just a matter of time and there will be dancing in the streets when a truck full of fertilizer or something goes off.
      people will only take some much abuse before they lash out !

      I’m expected to wanna play ball with fucking corrupt dirt bags ?
      screw that. i say we sink to their level and fight fire with fire at every opportunity.

  • Byte Master

    Punishment for taking thousands of legitimate files down: NONE.

    Hail our Corporate Overlords and their Puppets (our so called ‘elected representatives’).

  • Holololol

    lol Wow, glad I don’t live in the US or Russia. Never thought I would compare Russia and China to the US. Its beginning to get difficult to see the difference.

    • NotBlind

      Only if you’re blind.

  • Ray Carroll

    Business and politics are even more interwoven in Russia and China than here in America, and that’s without any checks a balances. the greatest thing about file-sharing is also its Achilles Heel, it doesn’t generate enormous sums of money to influence corrupt people. And in countries where voting is a complete sham or nonexistent, we can expect the worst to happen to.

  • Ricardo

    And what about the wrong notifications?? When will the be punished with fines, disconections and prision?

  • jq

    what will happen to rutracker?

    • xpmule

      good question

  • Mister Pickle

    > Website operators will be given a day to remove or block content with
    > hosts given an extra day in the event they have to discuss the
    > takedown request with websites they host.

    Un-fucking-believable. One day? Two days? 99.9% of everyone who runs a website can’t respond that quickly. Think of the infrastructure and policies that a website will have to put in place to comply with this insane law.

    This law will either be universally ignored and not enforced — or it will destroy an unbelievable number of websites.

  • Mr. Maggo

    Anyone know what happened with the FileCrop?

  • Odoacer

    Now wait and see all Putin opponents being caught in takedown requests

    US has once the land of the free (Really way back when the natives where the only ones there) now it’s the scourge of the Earth making shit so good that even Russia and China didn’t think off but soon copy it with a more extremist view to their own countries

    I say it’s time for the barbarians to arise demolishing the already falling empire

  • bobmail

    Actually, it sounds pretty fair. The only ones with a valid claim here are rightsholers, those violating copyright need to move quickly to either take action or face the consequences. It sounds pretty fair and balanced to me.

    • joexxx

      The burden here should be on the rights holder to prove 2 things:
      1. The rightsholder holds copyright to the material in question.
      2. The accused has violated the copyright.

      No take down should be done before both are proved and approved by a judicial body and not successfully challenged.
      That’s fair.

      • xpmule

        sadly this is not common sense.

    • Guest

      Would you like to point out how rightsholders own the copyright to folk songs, bobby, or is that Robert King jizz still doing all the thinking for you?

    • xpmule

      the last page i read at chillingeffects.org showed clearly at least half of the pages were vague.. for example a ton of them were links to a site section and page number or a site’s user page number.. which would change as more content gets added etc rendering the link obsolete most likely even before it is examined for infringing content.. by the time its not on page 3 anymore or maybe not on there at all !

      tiny piece of the ridiculous puzzle.
      sounds pretty unfair and unbalanced to me..

      oh and where are the fines for false dmca take down requests since were talking about fairness.

      pathetic attempt at justifying horrendous and unjust behavior bobmail.

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      And color me not very surprised to see a copyright maximalist finding the actions of a dictatorial puppet regime run by a former KGB spymaster “pretty fair”.

  • Putinho

    Oh yeah, Russia is now the america’s Biatch !

  • ItsTheSasquatch

    Ha. Former source of all communism, now bending over for corporate interests. Priceless.

    That said, the DMCA needs to be thrown out. It’s a ****ing joke, and not a very funny one. The people involved in its passing–elected and otherwise–belong in prison.

  • Da Booser

    I’ts a Russia, guys. Always been partly like Asia. Give money to right ppl, and put anything you want on your sites. Vkontakte do it all the time. Imagine Facebook, who allows you to upload any song or video and share it with other ppl. That what Vkontakte is. And what? Is it takedowned? No, and never will be. As a company, just buy right ppl. (PS: Fuck the DMCA! Use I2P. He-he)

    • Guest

      that’s too much of a generalization.

  • Guest

    “, site owners and hosts may lawfully reinstate the disputed content.”

    But still owners have lost 30 days of hosting.

    Would be better if it continued on to say “…and the alleged rightsholder fined”.

  • xpmule

    jeez the comments look BAD when Disqus is blocked WOW !

  • guest

    russia, you too brutus?

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