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Tenenbaum Demands Rehearing of $675,000 RIAA File-Sharing Case

After more than five years the long-running and controversial file-sharing case of Joel Tenenbaum against the RIAA continues with his legal team filing a petition for a rehearing en banc. Tenenbaum argues that the jury instruction which led to a staggering $675,000 fine was both erroneous and prejudicial.

tenebaumBoston student Joel Tenenbaum is the poster child of an entire generation of downloaders, and one of the few people to stand up against the RIAA instead of signing off on a settlement.

His case has been dragging on for half a decade already. In 2009, a jury found Tenenbaum guilty of “willful infringement” and awarded damages mounting to $675,000.

July last year judge Nancy Gertner ruled that the penalty was excessive and unconstitutional and the jury-awarded damages were subsequently reduced by 90%, a decision that was reversed two months ago after a new hearing at the Court of Appeals. And this week the case moved forward again.

“The defendant seeks an en banc hearing on one ground: that it is unconstitutional to instruct a jury that it can return an unconstitutionally excessive award,” Harvard law professor Charles Nesson now writes to the court.

Nesson, who along with a group of students defends Tenenbaum, claims that it was unconstitutional for the judge to allow the jury to award damages that she later found to be unconstitutionally high.

“To instruct the jury that it may ascribe an award in a range of up to $4,500,000 against a noncommercial copyright infringer is punitive, excessive, not authorized by statute, and a denial of due process. Indeed, it is difficult to find the right word,” the petition reads.

“The trial judge misinstructed the jury that it could legally ascribe an award 67 times what she herself later found to be the legally permissible constitutional maximum. For each of thirty separately listed songs, the verdict form directed the jury to fill in a blank answering the question, ‘[W]hat damages do you award the Plaintiff for this copyrighted work, from $750 to $150,000?’: This was error, plain and simple.”

Tenenbaum’s legal team is asking for a rehearing before the full court in the hope of getting the fine reduced or thrown out altogether, as they argue that the RIAA’s campaign was not warranted in the first place.

“The defendant has challenged as unconstitutional the use of federal law and process to threaten catastrophic fines against the generation of kids who were downloading and sharing music peer-to-peer. The massive campaign of lawsuits initiated by the recording industry against people who copied music for personal use and never sold or considered selling it in any commercial way was entirely unprecedented,” the petition reads.

In an interview last year Tenenbaum described himself as someone with a passion for music, who paid for music, perhaps even more than the average consumer. For him, file-sharing was a means to discover new bands at a time where there were few legal alternatives online.

“I often have bought music as a result of the free exploration I’ve done. In that respect, I’m much like the average downloader, who actually spends more money on music than people who don’t download at all,” he said.

Although the RIAA stopped pursuing casual file-sharers years ago, for the music industry group this case is now a matter of principle. They are paying much more in lawyer fees than they will ever be able to get back from Tenenbaum, but they feel an example must be set.

To be continued, indefinitely.


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  • ScytheNoire

    Imagine now that the RIAA/MPAA or whatever other MAFIAA organization have to go and sue each person individually for any violation, and actually prove that violation of copyright. They wouldn’t stand a chance and their own lawyers would bankrupt them. This is why the simply bribe (aka. lobby) politicians to pass the laws they want (ACTA, Protect IP, E-PARASITE) so they can avoid having to follow the proper legal system and just use the tax payers own justice system as their own private copyright police, as they have been doing for years now. America is totally screwed up and only getting worse. Thank you Corporatocracy.

    • Aussie bob

      i believe the word you are looking for is oligarchy

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

        Plutocracy also works

        • IDIOCRACY

          need I say anything??

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      Now that you’ve decided that you’d like to open a small business, you should put your thoughts down on paper. This way, your business idea is expressed in a plan – a living document that outlines every critical aspect of its operation. This step might sound intimidating, but it’s important. So let’s get started!
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  • politux

    Sigh. Best of luck to Joel but this is getting absurd.

  • http://twitter.com/forever_puft Nicholas Rogers

    i feel sad for Joel Tenenbaum i wish the music industry will just die already

    • http://twitter.com/Mathew30 Mathew Lisett

      its not the inudstry that are acting like complete dick heads, its the anti piracy people such as the riaa that are such out of place in their methods.

      • John Gaspardo

        and who do you think the anti piracy groups represent? they are the lobby for the industry so they are in fact one and the same!!!!!

  • http://twitter.com/AlyssaBlindy Alyssa Blindy

    *sigh*
    “To be continued, indefinitely.”
    Until the Supreme Court hears the case,
    Until someone takes poor Tenenbaum to outer space.
    Until trolls get what they deserve,
    and all these nasty precidents are reversed.

    Until filesharing becomes a norm,
    this is the calm before the storm,
    it’s pure macropathy versus the swarm,
    who will win this awful quarrel?

    Every article here I read,
    makes me think, what’s coming next for us to see?
    I wish I could torrent the future of torrent freak,
    to see what will come within the next 100 weeks.
    “To be continued, indefinitely.”

    • Ryzzo

      As I log in to torrent freak,
      And read the posts from week to week,
      It seems we’re floating up the creek,
      Without a paddle through water’s deep.

      Our politicians don’t seem to care,
      About those of us who put them there,
      They legislate to our despair,
      While their pockets fill without compare.

      Laws and judges are now bought,
      Truth and justice are not sought,
      They’ll keep this up until they’re caught,
      But even then won’t learn the lesson taught.

      As for who will win this fight,
      And release the people from this darkest night,
      It can be seen clear without sight,
      Those who share are in the right!

      Thanks for the inspiration :)

      • Floppy Copy

        In brightest day, in blackest night,
        No RIAA scum shall escape my sight.
        Let those who worship copyrights might,
        Beware our power… filesharers unite!

        Inspiration indeed. :-)

        • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

          In scrabble I’d say triple score. Epic win all three of you ;)

        • http://travismccrea.com Travis McCrea

          Punch a baby in the face
          spray a cop with some mace
          I drink my urine for the taste

          … : amidoingitright?

  • Or

    I love it!

    The RIAA lawsuit machine has chewed through million of dollar fighting this one case, and they should know by now that they’ll never get one cent out of him.

    Joel Tenenbaum is a hero to all of us.

    • Floppy Copy

      Nor will this case result in the “example” they wish to set. Nobody likes bullies, which is just one of the many derisive words I can think of to describe them. If anything, the RIAA has helped strengthen our cause by driving people to take a stand against them and their abusive copyright laws, even those who don’t file share lol.

    • Anonymous

      The RIAA running such stupid and costly cases well explains why the artists never see any of the money they make. It seems a lot more logical to go after commercial supply and businesses who can afford large settlements.

  • Clubbermga

    i am happy to support the bloke. does he have a paypal account?

  • ZiggySig

    Ven, don’t forget to read what I said you here: http://torrentfreak.com/major-book-publisher-files-mass-bittorrent-lawsuit-111031/

    And this is a prime example, of what I was talking about.
    Pay attention to “i wish the music industry will just die already” comments too.

    • Ven

      This is also a prime example of my reply to you there ZiggySig.

      Joel (like millions of other file-sharers of copyrighted content) is giving the industry what it wants. If you want to listen to their music, read their books, or watch their movies, you give them something in return. It may not be cash, but it can be legal precedent, free press, free lobbying, and other non-financial incentives to continue down the path they have chosen. If Joel hadn’t downloaded industry content, the industry could not have come after him.

      If file-sharers want the industries to change their business model, go extinct, or make any other changes, then they need to shift the public away from desiring the products that are made and pushed through that old system.

      It was cheaper for Nike to make shoes in sweatshops filled with child labor. But the reasonable retaliatory response was not to go stealing shoes from them, because that is showing them nothing but that you want their product and are willing to break the law to get it. Instead, the public places two kinds of pressure on them to break:

      - Financial pressure by not purchasing their products; and
      - Political pressure so they know why the public is not purchasing their products.

      • Floppy Copy

        What you’re talking about, Ven, is a boycott, which plenty of file sharers do already. For some of them, downloading is just their way of rubbing salt into the wound, and it’s obviously working.

        I still spend money on entertainment these days, but only if it is something truly exceptional. Prior to this, when the economy and job outlook was better, I blindly spent money all the time on media just so my family could enjoy something purported/expected to be good that had just come out, which more often than not turned out to be crap instead. I have DVD’s on my shelf that were so dumb or boring, I’ll likely never watch them again. There are even a few I’ve only watched the first twenty minutes of, unable to progress any further because the content was so incredibly bad.

        I don’t feel entitled to entertainment at all, and given a choice I would rather pay for it, if for no other reason than peace of mind. I know a lot of people here feel this way. File sharing has simply given me the means to be more shrewd in my spending habits. I now save a fair bit of money, which is something everyone tries to do regardless of which side of the fence they’re on. A consumer in this day and age would have to be out of their mind to keep wasting money they don’t need to, and being judicious is something no one has ever batted an eye at, except for the copyright industry who feel entitled to each and every penny we’re now able to save.

        Like everyone else, my family lives right up to the edge of our means. We do our best to be careful, but sometimes things happen which we didn’t plan for. Money is tight and should it come down to a choice between paying the heating bill versus buying an audio CD or movie on bluray, I’ll choose the bills every time. One is frivolous, the other a necessity, and I’d wager my statement is true for the vast majority of people out there whether they be file sharers or not. This is where the profits of the copyright industry have disappeared to, not because of downloaders whom more than likely would have never paid you even if p2p options didn’t exist. This is the primary reason a download does not equal a lost sale. You cannot lose something you never had. If anything was lost, it was the opportunity to earn a sale, something that is completely different and far more accurate.

      • Floppy Copy

        What you’re talking about, Ven, is a boycott, which plenty of file sharers do already. For some of them, downloading is just their way of rubbing salt into the wound, and it’s obviously working.

        I still spend money on entertainment these days, but only if it is something truly exceptional. Prior to this, when the economy and job outlook was better, I blindly spent money all the time on media just so my family could enjoy something purported/expected to be good that had just come out, which more often than not turned out to be crap instead. I have DVD’s on my shelf that were so dumb or boring, I’ll likely never watch them again. There are even a few I’ve only watched the first twenty minutes of, unable to progress any further because the content was so incredibly bad.

        I don’t feel entitled to entertainment at all, and given a choice I would rather pay for it, if for no other reason than peace of mind. I know a lot of people here feel this way. File sharing has simply given me the means to be more shrewd in my spending habits. I now save a fair bit of money, which is something everyone tries to do regardless of which side of the fence they’re on. A consumer in this day and age would have to be out of their mind to keep wasting money they don’t need to, and being judicious is something no one has ever batted an eye at, except for the copyright industry who feel entitled to each and every penny we’re now able to save.

        Like everyone else, my family lives right up to the edge of our means. We do our best to be careful, but sometimes things happen which we didn’t plan for. Money is tight and should it come down to a choice between paying the heating bill versus buying an audio CD or movie on bluray, I’ll choose the bills every time. One is frivolous, the other a necessity, and I’d wager my statement is true for the vast majority of people out there whether they be file sharers or not. This is where the profits of the copyright industry have disappeared to, not because of downloaders whom more than likely would have never paid you even if p2p options didn’t exist. This is the primary reason a download does not equal a lost sale. You cannot lose something you never had. If anything was lost, it was the opportunity to earn a sale, something that is completely different and far more accurate.

      • ZiggySig

        I might have misunderstood, where you stand. But completely losing interest? That is to harsh for me :D.

        • Ven

          That is what needs to happen if you want change.

          Imagine a very extreme scenario, where sales tank to a few thousand units but millions of people are downloading those same works for free. Do you still think we will be able to convince politicians that a download doesn’t equal a lost sale? Or will they still be unable to convince politicians that file-sharing is hurting their bottom line?

          There is a disconnect between the older generations and the new ones, and this is something the file-sharing community needs to realize if they want to influence the law-making: from the outside looking in, downloading copyright material without permission looks like a lost sale. I’m not saying it is or isn’t, but look at the options consumers have when looking for entertainment:

          Books:
          - Hit some internet reviews, sample chapters
          - Hit a physical bookstore and skim the book
          - Hit a library and borrow or e-borrow the book

          Music:
          - Myspace, Youtube/Vevo, other marketed band sites online
          - 30-60 second demos from almost any online music store
          - Borrow/e-borrow from a library.
          - Radio or streaming site that pays royalties for general listening

          Film:
          - Reviews
          - Trailers
          - Friends with similar tastes
          - Waiting until it can be rented
          - Waiting until it can be seen on broadcasted television or cable

          I will definitely agree that when attempting to consume content en masse, downloading may be more efficient than hitting a library. However, that hardly means consumers have no viable alternatives to either sample potential buys or get around prices they can’t afford. So when all of the above options are side-stepped in favor of file-sharing, the unclear message being sent is that none of those methods work for you.

          At that point, most rational people are going to assume it is the price tag being avoided. So you can pirate to “stick it to them,” but that is giving them confirmation of their suspicions and they will turn around and use it as political ammo. They will take it to judges, congressmen, and the portion of the general population that will easily draw those same conclusions, and at that point file-sharers are fighting an uphill battle against the established state of mind.

          And all that is why I don’t let myself be entertained by their content. Let them wither and die with nobody to blame.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

        The RIAA/MPAA is doing more to take away legal platforms, forcing licenses on the innovators who help artists make money. Meanwhile, they’re doing quite well.

        I have not bought music for the longest time and can now forgo all industry products. Still, when all they’re doing is trying to destroy TPB without looking at why they may be losing money is missing the point.

        • Ven

          I definitely agree that they are missing the point, although I guess that is their prerogative – free to be as stupid as they want to be.

          I think we are on the cusp of enlightenment when it comes to the political arena, the point at which judges will start asking them to show that a download is in actuality a lost sale, or that invasive policing is unwarranted and ultimately unsuccessful.

          The one concern I have moving forward is what happens to Creative Commons and other methods of licensing content to be freely shared. I have an uneasy feeling that once chasing individual sharers is no longer reasonable that the industries will turn full-force against organized royalty-free and non-commercial methods.

  • EruditeEric

    If the RIAA haven’t realised they ain’t gonna get the money by now, they never will. I would support the man monetarily, but if I was in his position I wouldn’t want it, it would only get *stolen* by the RIAA (unlike what he did to them – which was nothing)

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  • Anonymous

    Is tat dude really in a position to demand anything?
    Privacy-Toolz.tk

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  • Darkshadow1933

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    ps again please spread the word of petition against the the bill. also.
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    1.Boycott the riaa and the mpaa do dirty research on there lawsuits on innocent people for no reason
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  • Joe_Public

    What he needs is a Texas Judge to thrash him with a belt

    You don’t seem to see the RIAA going after his daughter so it must be the same as $675,000 to them

  • Anonymous

    I think Joel Tenenbaum is one lucky guy to be represented by none other than a Harvard Law Professor. I can also see why this Professor would get involved when the case of Joel Tenenbaum with the non-commercial sharing of music online is a subject very engaging to the Harvard Students.

    Well in my view they make a good point. Why should the Judge instruct the Jury to award a fine in the range that the Judge later views as excessive and unconstitutional?

    There is clearly an error in the process somewhere and they could well have found this error out. Online music sharing for no profit is clearly very different to commercial supply where the law aims to set damages to a level to wipe out any profit they would have made.

    What is most needed is a clarification of the law with a clear split between commercial and non-commercial supply. Then you never need to see another unconstitutional fine again. Unconstitutional rulings clearly scream out an area where a new law is due.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PFCI5VRUCYT6AVBT3P6ILV3COI Ophelia Millais

      If you’ve been following this case and the read the transcripts of the hearings, you’d know that despite being a law professor, Charles Nesson has proven himself to be (putting it mildly) less than stellar legal counsel in this case. Tenenbaum is only lucky in that it has been pro bono.

      I think this latest development is a longshot. Tenenbaum was sued under a particular statute, and he screwed up and flat-out admitted liability for it on the stand, so what choice did the court have but to direct the jury to set the damage amounts based on what the statute says the range of damages must be? The remittitur of the amount they came up with was based on constitutional considerations, and thus was rejected by the court of appeals because the courts aren’t supposed to broach constitutional issues unless that’s what the case was originally about. (The appeals court also was well aware that the constitutional issues in this case are rather messy). So now the defense is trying to transform the case into a constitutional one, based partly on prior restraint, not just due process. Or something. I’m having trouble following the reasoning. Regardless, I would not be surprised if this doesn’t go anywhere but back to the jury for another determination of damages. Sorry to be pessimistic, but this case has been going badly for the defense from the outset, and I don’t see much hope for it to get better.

      As for changing the law, I’m sure Congress will want to wait to see if the law, as written, is “working” first, as borne out by a court case such as this. They will also be very hesitant to introduce something like a noncommercial exception or other form of consumer protection without some kind way of minimizing its impact on commercial interests. And naturally any such provision will be hard-fought by the RIAA.

      • Anonymous

        I am well aware of the appeal court’s ruling on constitutional considerations.

        I said at the time that their ruling was totally stupid because the supreme court would certainly take on constitutional considerations. To not take on constitutional considerations in lower courts is only wasting time and needlessly running up court costs when their rulings could be overturned in higher courts due to constitutional considerations.

        It is also true to say that the public at whole want constitutional considerations in all court cases in all higher or lower courts. I would even go as far to say that the US Constitution and Bill of Rights are the most import legal documents there are and should be considered in all sections of the United States.

        Since the US Constitution is the document this country was found upon, then anyone who rejects it, like this appeal court did, is anti-American and should be expelled from consideration in all US matters as such.

        I completely condemn this appeal court’s ruling. It is like saying lets have America without apple pie, baseball and independence day. I am just like “WTF? Are you insane?”

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

          It’s not as you think. The courts were sure to do this because they have to. There is literally a Constitutional Avoidance precedent that judges try to follow, which makes no sense. However, Gertner had mentioned that in her decision. Just think of it as a punt on their part based on preceding law.

        • Canadian

          “Either that or fire them out of a cannon into Canada.”

          Hey!!!!! What did Canada did to you?

          Keep your shit to yourself or throw it in North Korea or Iran more appropriately!

      • Guest

        Whatever. These corporate parasites are all going to die anyway. It is long overdue.

  • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

    You know, JT’s suffering hurts us. We live closer to where he is than we would like.
    We too; even the MIT board certified killer wizards among us, could be summoned to a long table of sadistic types and introduced to a new super duper gadget from NSA or HSA or KGB that cuts through VPNs like butter and knows what every person on the internet was thinking at their terminals on the internet for the last five years. If we
    look away from JT, what we see over our shoulder is our own peril, not just as filesharers; but, as citizens and human beings.

    The Copyright holders have protected their legislated monopoly by using their corporate power in our electoral process and within our legislatures to criminalize JT
    and every citizen who could not raise a voice in the legislature against the one hundred year copyright term. Do you think JT would be facing all these civil and criminal sanctions if we had long ago passed a copyright law with a three or five year term limit whose protections were available solely and exclusively to the original artistic creator and specificly excluded protection for any second purchaser acquiring solely for redistribution?

    Of course not. Copyright holders would cry that they had been robbed Yet, what was
    a hundred year copyright term on intellectual property but a congressionally orchrastrated hijacking of ninety seven years worth of every citizen’s equity interest
    in the reversion of intellectual property to the public domain?

    People who pirate intellectual property today are merely taking back publick domain rights that should have never been allienated from them in the first place. After all, the original copyright laws made elaborate and specific provisions for reversion to the social commonwealth whereas the current law is in every sense a disgraceful perpetuity gifting intellectual property forever to well connected corporate oligarchies.

    There are victims here! But they are not the copyright holders.

    I think we need to look at both ourselves and JT a lot more closely.

  • Shafiul

    It is also the most difficult one of the 4 ways to make money without money. It’s difficult and time-consuming. If you’re forced to do it without a budget, it will be even more time-consuming. But you’re determined to build a profitable, long-term Internet business, right? Hard work is not a problem. Right?
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  • Shafiul

    It is also the most difficult one of the 4 ways to make money without money. It’s difficult and time-consuming. If you’re forced to do it without a budget, it will be even more time-consuming. But you’re determined to build a profitable, long-term Internet business, right? Hard work is not a problem. Right?
    http://www.historiccamelot.org/

    • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

      If what you mean by “difficult to make money without money” is that in any truley compettitive market whosoever starts without investment equity finds it more difficult to earn his money, I agree. It’s called sweat equity, or in the working man’s language, “The hard road to hoe.” That said, however, copyright as a hundred year entitlement, is the easiest way to make fat unearned money (not for the artist, but for second purchace distributor whose business is to aggregate and trade the monopoly attributes of copyright).

      The problem with the digital internet is not that the creative artist is disenfranchised; but rather, just the opposite, that the artist is empowered. It is the second purchase digital distributer who is dispossed. Why? Because the whole internet knows that digital costs of distribution actually(replication, warehousing, and transmission) are a minimal margin above zero. It is the commercial distributer looking to charge his historical premium that is disenfranchized. Why? Because while the ortginal creative artist is as indispensible as ever in the digital universe, no one on the internet can be easily persuaded to pay the copyright distributer’s premieum. Why? Because in the digital universe that copyright distributor is a pure profit
      legally previledged parrasite and is as necessary as tits on a bull.

  • Anonymous

    lol, doesnt look that that dude is in any position to demand anything lol.
    internet-privacy.at.tc

  • KiRE

    Fuck it, I’m going to go grab another d-load…

  • Predator

    The RIAA are a pack of dangerous extremists, dangerous for our society and our democracy. Like any extremist they are totally irrational.

    Still trying to hopelessly declare victories, still trying the make Tenenbaum pay an amount that he can not and will never pay is stupid and dangerous.

    As far as the public opinion is concerned, which is the only justice system that really matter, they already lost.

    How can they still expect to win after having committed so many atrocities against the society and enraged so many citizens?

    What is their point then?

    Is it to end up with their heads on pics after the coming anti-corporate revolution had run it’s course?

  • Megarock Radio

    Maybe it’s just me but why is music and movies the only two items known to man to be penalized for more than the item is worth? If someone steals something it is judged on it’s worth – locally they consider anything under 150 a misdemeanor and anything over a felony. It is judged based on the value of the item. Since the RIAA allows Napster to sell a subscription for 9.95 a month for unlimited music it would seem legally the courts would have to follow the precedent of value to be used in judging infringement costs. If I can essentially download every song on Napster for 9.95 a month that makes the value of an individual track next to nothing.

    • Guest

      Mehhh, I already hoped, that I could download unlimited mp3s for $9.95, but Napster is just for streaming, right?
      Guess I’ll stick to Grooveshark then, it’s free. Though I’m wondering how is it any better than downloading from Piratebay – they’re both free. Or is it that, for every play, the artist gets revenue? Hell yeah, I’m gonna put my favourite track on repeat then, when I go to sleep and school, and the producer is going to be rich :D

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    All you creator haters might have a little more traction in the legislative/judicial battlefield if you didn’t use all your bullets defending clowns like Tenenbaum and Jamie Thomas, both of whom get their asses handed to them every time they get within a 100 yards of an impartial jury. If enforcing copyright law poses such an egregious threat to life, liberty and the American way, where are the cases and defendants that prove it? Mr Neeson? You have pretty much ensured that laws to protect IP will pass Congress by your having screamed ‘the sky is falling’ for the last decade. I know, facts and logic are hard.

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