Three Arrested As Police Swoop on Rapidshare Link Forum

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February 16, 2010
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An Internet forum which provided links to movies and TV shows hosted on sites such as Rapidshare has been raided by police. Following an anti-piracy group investigation, three alleged operators of the 30,000 member site were arrested, two of which were teenagers. Searches were carried out on members in three other locations.

With 30,000 members Filmowisko was a prominent file-sharing forum. The site didn’t host any illicit material, but like many of its type, linked to movies, TV shows, music and other warez stored on hosting sites such as Rapidshare.

“Forum administrators are not responsible for content written by users. The files placed here by users are only for promotional purposes. After 24 hours you must delete all files downloaded from this forum,” said the disclaimer on the front page of the site before it disappeared.

Polish police and the Foundation for the Protection of Audiovisual Creativity (FOTA) anti-piracy group clearly didn’t think the disclaimer counted for much, and on February 12th conducted raids against the site’s operators.

During the raid last Friday, police say they arrested three individuals on suspicion of running the site – a 21 year-old computer science student and two teenagers aged 16 and 17 – and also conducted searches on site members in three other locations.

Equipment was seized including 6 computers and 150 DVDs and CDs which allegedly contained copyright infringing content.

After lengthy questioning the 21 and 17 year-olds were released and now face copyright infringement charges which carry a maximum 5 year prison sentence in Poland. The 16 year-old, who was reported yesterday as still being detained, will be dealt with by the family courts.

The police, who are still to officially confirm the name of the site, say that “streaming movies” were also available via the forum and that those arrested benefited financially from operating the site as they collected revenue from advertising.

They add that the collected evidence is being examined by experts in order to assess the level of damages suffered by the creators of the films and music whose work was linked to by the site.

Anti-piracy group FOTA, which awards the police with “Golden Plate” accolades for carrying out piracy crackdowns on their behalf, will undoubtedly be pleased with this result.

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Dante.Xaiver

where is the crime in all this i see nothing wrong with sharing , i mean after all if Hollywood can afford to waste cash they are not that hard off

People dotn let this bother you , upload anything and everything you can share the movies in your collection

REMEMBER SHARING IS CARING!!
Keyman30

Plenty more.
CDXX

Wonder if this is the reason Rlslog is down…
djnforce9

One site falls and several more pop up in its place. There are countless similar forums in absolutely every country.

I had never even heard of the site mentioned in this article until now. It’s a shame that the law still takes hold even if you’re not explicitly hosting copyrighted material on the server itself.
http://www.eZee.se www.eZee.se

Let me get this right, they were busted for just linking to some other site where they could or couldnt download something?
duane

Meanwhile… a shop was being looted just down the street, because the police were too busy chasing after geeky some teenagers. Seriously, give me a break.
Dante.Xaiver

It wont be long until our Generation of File Sharers rise to power and become politicians , Police, Lawyers and judges themselves and will make sure file sharers are not treated like real criminals
guyfawkes

to assess the level of damages suffered by the creators of the films and music

who should make the charges should be the creators, not anti-piracy group.
in.cog.nito

what a bunch of horse shit

5 years for hosting a forum with links.
Reasoned Mind

You wish, Dante.

Stories like this will become more and more prevalent until everyday someone somewhere is getting busted. Then the penalties begin to rise as the legislature adds laws and compensations until pirates see the costs and decide that paying cash for whatever they want isn’t so bad after all. Suddenly it seems fair again.

Live in a dream. Believe that the government will cave to you……the hardcore TF crowd, and in the process lose the value of digital commerce on the internet to petty crime forever.
Right.
ok

So where did this take place?
mind bender

meanwhile while they were pursuing people who didnt do anything wrong i broke into the mindsters house,vandalized everything and stole his tv, i also kicked in his gas meter as a memento.
Rboy

This will not stand up in court. How many cases have failed like this? There is no law in any country against hosting links.

Perhaps the only weakness is streaming. In order to stream there would be some copyright stuff hosted on the site. However youtube can do it but I don’t know how that is legally sorted out.

The problem with laws restricting links posted is one of free speech. Any law drafted to restrict what can be posted would have a whole host of unintended consequences.
RationalThinker

If simply hosting links to files is a crime, why isn’t Google (and the like) being prosecuted? I’m sure the MAJORITY of file-hosting links come from search engines. I guess Google has too deep of pockets for FOTA to dare go after them. Might as well pick on the little guys then.
Afficianado

And this was where, raided by the police force of which country? Details are scant.
me

I Don’t think they will get in trouble for the site but I do think they will get charged for the dvd’s they had of pirated movies.
hir

In Poland you can raid any site- just have connections like FOTA.
odsiebie.com was closed and police organised press conference about it to tell how bad the admins was and how bad the site was. Now there is serial raper in some city and they can’t capture him – maybe press conference about that ?
Start fighting with REAL bad crimes then after you’re done go and start catching warez ppl etc.
Ron

AT LEAST MAKE AN EFFORT TO MENTION WHERE THESE RAIDS TOOK PLACE AND WHERE THE SITE WAS HOSTED.
Rataskanken

According to http://serversiders.com/filmowisko.net, Filmowisko.net is (or rather was) using Google Adsense for monetization. Why don’t they sent the coppers on Google, who finances this terrible activity…? Is it too big, too powerful,or too important to Hollywood? I guess all reasons are equally valid. In reality, however, Google is just as involved as these kids, since in the end they capitalize on their activity.
Afficianado

OK, Poland, thanks for that.
miesozaur

@17
Forum was in Poland.
Where it was hosted ? I don’t know, I wasn’t a member at this forum.
AnarchyNow

Close rabidshit instead, they’re REAL pirates, they REALLY “steal” money from others, they’re a SCAM (megadsupload also).
Fuck’em all!
AnarchyNow

Close rabidshit instead, they’re REAL pirates, they REALLY “steal” money from others, they’re a SCAM (megadsupload also).
Peter_Pan

ROTFL @ the sites disclaimer
TellTaleHat

@ AnarchyNow:

Epic Fail!
Rapidshare is just selling their infrastructure to anyone who wants to transport large quantities of data.
If you demand to shut down Rapidshare you have to demand shutting down your ISP too. Which wouldn’t be the worst since then you couldn’t post such rubbish anymore…
Dante.Xaiver

So really how come no one goes after google? oh I forgot hollywood only goes after people with no money and cant defend themselves. they think crushing the weak sets and example
ralonto

I see, some Gestapo officers will be getting externally sponsored bonusses this year.
Whatever

A few seperate comments (sorry couldn’t get it structured as one story):

Polish people really likes to drop about anything on rapidshare. Rapidshare actually has all the “illegal data” stored, that is much more than a link and its certainly for profit.

Any link anyone has to any other site can be pointing to something illegal because the source content can be changed by the owner without notice (a landscape picture might be replaced by a more sinister picture). So if linking to “illegal content” is not allowed anyone placing a link can be guilty.

The lesson for any future admins is need not to have any (unencrypted) media stored themselves (although in case of the TPB even that wasn’t enough). Even if there is no evidence of illegal activity with a website they will usually have something on the admin after the raid, even if its one copied movie.

The disclaimer, well, it must have been teenagers to think that such a disclaimer is realistic (delete after 24 hours, like in the past the “Clinton” no trespassing for law enforcement… texts in P2P shares as filenames).

In Poland its safer to go to a market and BUY/SELL “illegal” media rather than upload/download. The only thing the seller has to do to avoid police detection is throw a blanket on the merchandise when they get close so they cant see it.
LOL

Anyone else find it ironic that someone named AnarchyNow says:

“Close rabidshit instead, they’re REAL pirates, they REALLY “steal” money from others, they’re a SCAM (megadsupload also).”

You know, seeing as what anarchists are meant to stand for. Total fail and obviously some idiot that can’t get over his issues with Mummy and Daddy “controlling him” so he clings to “Anarchy” as it sounds so rebellious without knowing what it means.

It sounds to me once again this is a open and shut case – the site was clearly promoting and enabling copyright infringement, enjoy your punishment admins.
MissedMemories

Well, I hope those guys don’t get to pay anything.

Then again… if getting money from ads is “profiting” AND linking is considered bad, then why not just kill everyone with ADS and LINKS? They can be linking to illegal media/data, and ARE profiting from it.
DuNCE

“So really how come no one goes after google?”

Google’s primary function is not to provide links to copyrighted material. They spider the Web, pulling in many pages some of which are links to copyrighted material – although not even directly linking, the pages themeselves do that. Nice try but not everyone is willing to follow your refusal to acknowledge reality in order to justify breaking the law.

They also have a policy of removing search results that do link to copyrighted material indirectly as just described if requested. They also state that they do not support copyright infringment. If this site was using Google Adsense they are breaking the terms they agreed too, it’s not Googles problem.

This forum was clearly set up, like many others, to facilitate the exchange of copyrighted material an dhas nothing to do with any filehost. By uploading copyrighted material to the filehosts the uploader is breaking the terms and conditions applied by all filehosts. By linking to the material, knowing it is copyright as is clearly the case, the forums users are breaking the law and the web site in question was clearly set up only for this purpose and was the responsibilty of the admins as they clearly did not remove any posts until the links died months or years after original posting.
neostyles

I love the site’s disclaimer. Is this truly what people believe can ward off the inevitable legal action? Do they actually believe that people will download the content and only use it fora few hours? Aside from being impossible to enforce, this is a completely disingenuous policy. And then their attempt to absolve themselves of any responsibility : “Forum administrators are not responsible for content written by users. ” How are they not responsible for what happens. Unlike the part about deleting things after 24 hours, they do have control over what content is posted on their site. They knew perfectly well that it was being downloaded and they sponsored the infringement only because they thought their anonymity would prevent them from being caught.

Im sure they were using all the protective measures people think will save them like VPNs and whatnot.. And they still got caught.
Hol

This site stay on POLISH server…
nah in baltimore

big whoop this aint shit….muthafkkrs can host this crap on a fkking WordPress Blogs, Ive downed from vietnamese, malaysian, russian and spanish forums…too many….there are so many millions of DDLs… DDLs are the easiest things to share since they are just pointer texts. Really. FOTA and its handlers get excited over nothing…this is only a letdown for polish lamers….no one else.
hir

@31 Polish lamers ? LOL
You have no idea how much of stuff you from ddl’s are uploaded by poles.
You’re funny thinking you’re better cause you use many sources instead of one – if they want to have you they will do it
hir

You have no idea how much of stuff you GOT from ddl’s*

One word got lost xD
Jim

Hmm.. im starting to wonder about keeping evidence to a minimum.. it seems that if your raided, it pays to have as little of stuff as possible on the scene.
Anonymous

jesus… just go after those who commit REAL crimes like killing and raping -_-”
Bitsnoop.com

> copyright infringement charges which carry a maximum 5 year prison sentence in Poland

Oh boy, you might get less for a murder, given that you have a good lawyer. Criminal code is fucked up in Poland all right.
osloskop user

This police raid makes no sense.

The Polish ed2k site http://www.osloskop.net is one of the biggest and oldest filesharing communities (still) online – yet it’s never been targeted by police.

In contrast, Filmowisko only went online in 2009.

If Polish police were looking for someone to bust, why would they choose to raid an obscure startup while completely ignoring a significant 7-year-old filesharing site?

Not that I’m complaining :)
Poland

Uh oh – the Nazis are back… =(
333333

yeah put the 17 y/o kid in prison 5 years for piracy.

make so much sense!!
Kirkpad

@29 I have seen rapidshare links posted on blogspots. Isn’t it googles responsibility to regulate the blogs it hosts and remove any infringing links? Sure they have a terms of service, but if they do not regulate and enforce it aren’t they technically infringing copyright by not removing the blog?
BIOS

@35 They do :\

People know this is wrong. And it is wrong to distribute material that is not yours.

What I do not agree with are the insane punishments related to piracy. Yes it is wrong. But it is not hurting ANYONE. There is ample proof to state the opposite.
Yo

Go all the way and open Auschwitz up as the piracy criminals concentration camp!
Yo

@40
Where did you the idea that distributing material that is not yours is wrong?
Also, what material is being distributed here?
Remember that a copy is not the same “material” as the original. It’s a different set of bits.
Jeff

@40: The site that was raided is not distributing any material – it is only providing links to those that are distributing that material (in this case the Rapidshare accounts).

This is the same argument that the MAFIAA has been using to shut down torrent sites. Once again, it is not those sites that have any copyrighted material on them, but rather the uploaders and downloaders.
josh

Meanwhile, manslaughter can get me only 12 months in jail here in Australia (David Watson anyone?).

I’m sure someone with a sharing/giving nature that had no intention of profiting off file sharing is MUCH more morally corrupt than a person that can let another human die without giving a f*ck.
Blood

Country A, has x amount of people living there.

Country B gets attacked by Country A people.

Based on a web host being liable for what it’s users does. I guess it’s right that Country B attacks Country A for what Country A’s people done.

O wait, didn’t that happen after 911?
Ninja

21 yrs old! Do they expect to get any money from any of those guys?

This is just about setting a sick example by ruining starting lives. Again, extremely negative propaganda for the industry. I’m already completely disgusted by the morons…

Even with the streaming, if the source wasn’t the site itself, it’s still a link to the stream content. I hope they can win and stick a big spiky stick on those anti-piracy idiots… Ears…
anon

the more they lock up, the less there is to tax, if they locked up everyone that file shared – there’d be more in the prison then out of it.

So I want some free healthcare, movies and music in my jailcell, and steak every Thursday.

Heck besides a little man on man action prison may as well be a resort.
(bonus points if you’re gay already)
hatts

hey CDXX try checking out http://rlslog.in/ you might be pleasantly surprised. Just adding more text so the link doesn’t get censored.
Anonymous

Meanwhile, as these people are being harassed and abused by police, Google rakes in thousands of dollars for knowingly linking to infringing material.
Matt

29. Has the best comment on here. I always wondered why noone went after google for having links to certain sites. Also, when was the last time anyone did 5 years for piracy? no1 has or ever will, it’s just there to scare people.
Scooter

Um. If you run a Google search for copyrighted stuff I’m pretty sure you’ll see ads down the side, from which Google benefits. Maybe they should sue Google too. Or ummm…. Rapidshare, where the files are freakin’ hosted in the first place? Farking asshat authoritarian dicknose bastards bullying kids because they can. Someone should bury these guys upside-down in a big barrel of shyte.
Scooter

Oh, yeah, sorry, I realize in my above post I iterated an opinion that had already been vocalized. In my ire I jumped straight to teh “add your response” section without reading posts first. Anyway I stand by my post. And yeah yeah yeah I realize Google isn’t specifically for copyrighted blah blah blah what-the-fsck-ever. It’s about these crapfaces going after little fry just to send the message that if you’re not big enough to fight back, they’ll fckkin obliterate your goddamn lives.
Rboy

How the F could google ever block links it would take an army of several million reviewing every link to determine if it should be blocked and by the time they did just like rapidshare when they delete files they are usually quickly reuploaded under a slightly different name.

The copyright fags are fighting a lost battle.
annoyance

Bubba gonna be waiting for these younguns.
Anonymous

It does not matter. It is not going to make us go back buy the corporate parasites shit again.

We are boycotting them to death.

NO MOVIE THEATER, NO DVD, NO CD AND NO DOWNLOAD!
warez.dy.fi

didnt know that you have copyleft police in Poland. admins should protect their identity better.
Crenshaw

“@29 I have seen rapidshare links posted on blogspots. Isn’t it googles responsibility to regulate the blogs it hosts and remove any infringing links? Sure they have a terms of service, but if they do not regulate and enforce it aren’t they technically infringing copyright by not removing the blog?”

No it is not. They did not create the content, the T & C forbids the use of blogs to facilitate copyright infringment and they have a policy of removing offending blogs if they are notified.

It is highly impractical to hold Google accountable as to do so would mean they would need to monitor the millions of Blogs which would mean the service wouldn’t be available, or at least not as some cost as I’m sure advertising revenue wouldn’t cover the man power required ot monitor that.
Crenshaw

“Remember that a copy is not the same “material” as the original. It’s a different set of bits.”

Sorry but that is just lame and some silly fantasy your having with yourself that’s totally unrelated to how the real world works. A reproduction is a copy. Your saying that if a book is reprinted using a different typeface it isnt a copy essentially.

A license does not cover an arrangement of bits thats why it’s called intellectual property. Pretty stupid not knowing that arent you.
CCC

I kind of find this raid very suspicious . usually it is difficult to get warrant for such case
abolish copyright now

digital data cannot be owned.

the physical media that the digital data is on can be owned.

intellectual property cannot be owned.

copyrights can be owned.

copyright harms society.

copyright results in discouragement of competition and enslavement of ideas and unleashes the forces of tyranny to enforce itself.
Dia

“You must delete material within 24 hours”. Hahaha. That disclaimer is so 90′s, I can’t believe some retards are still using it.
Crenshaw

“digital data cannot be owned.”

Sorry, according to the laws and statutes of many countries they can be owned.

“the physical media that the digital data is on can be owned.”

Way to make a statement so obvious it’s superflous.

“intellectual property cannot be owned.

copyrights can be owned.”

Apparently it has escaped you’re small brain capacity to realise that copyright is a license to use IP.

“copyright harms society.”

Yet you cannot provide proof of this. Isn’t it funny how technology, discovery, wealth of populations and innovation has accelerated at a rate that is far faster than at any time in human history. Kind of makes your “harms” argument look stupid.

“copyright results in discouragement of competition”

I might agree with you there however it still stands that despite this discouragement innovation and advancment is rapidly accelerating faster than at any time in human history.

“and enslavement of ideas”

You can’t enslave an idea, it’s an abstract concept, start making sense as that is nonsensical.

“and unleashes the forces of tyranny”

And yet great swathes of the world live in democracies and have more rights and freedoms than at any other time ion human history. Note that in times before copyright was even a concept most people in Western societies lived in servitude in a totalitarian enviroment. Kinda makes that statement not jibe with reality.

“to enforce itself.”

Stop, please stop – only morons buy into your garbage.
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@Crenshaw
promoting and enabling copyright infringements is not illegal.
Outcomes can be bought you know.

‘….people in Western societies lived in servitude in a totalitarian enviroment.’

Thankfully the bilderberg and carlyle group have split.
No, wait….
fuxxin idiot.
lol

ah.. was getting kinda bored,
but reading the little TROLL’s “Crenshaw” replies all over TF, has proved to be most entertaining.

Keep up the “good work” mate :p
Lynx

I love how the puppets think “because its the law, its wrong.” the law also allows companies like Nike to run sweatshops and sell a pair of shoes for over 20 times the money they paid to make them, we allow this to happen but supporting them and buying there products. Some laws need to change.
digger

He’s a girly troll
Darth_

Re: golden plate awards

I think a golden shower would be more appropriate.
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ob1wanzski

I got to agree with #16 or #17 about the Police wasting time on this shit when there is a serial rapist to be caught. They cant catch the rapist so lets m?k? this months figures look good and get some kids who are hosting links to rapidshare! Wow big up to the Polish Police.
Matty

Heroturko.net is next.
Crenshaw

I am an Obvious troll!!!! :D
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IamMe

The Film Gestapo Strikes again, Sieg Heil Hollywood
IamMe

What does sharing really hurt? if you have a 50 inch plasma you are not going to put up with low quality DivX copies from the Internet, you are going to BUY the movies, and since tv’s are coming down in price and more people seem to own the good ones, it is a matter of time before it is just poor college students who share illegally online.

On the other hand it gives people a chance to see if they really want to spend money on buying these movies, and again I see nothing wrong with this, if the movie makers would just make quality movies instead of garbage they would have nothing to fear.
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Patrick

“two of which were teenagers” should be:
“two of whom were teenagers”.
american

Poland was influenced by Nazi and will soon start a File-Sharing Death Camp to punish those that doesn’t comply with its laws since catching real criminals are more difficult than catching a kid.

Don’t worry Poland File Sharer. America shall save you again just like in WW2.

In America, we have something call Freedom of Speech and Bankruptcy Laws.

If Freedom of Speech fails, you simply go to step 2. Fail a bankruptcy and you pay shit to whoever raided you or suit you.

Now, back to the stupid raid. Wouldn’t raiding the actual Somalia Pirates be a better ideas?? After all, a lot of EU ship travel through the horn of africa. If Polish dedicate this much time raiding a little kid’s computer, the problem at Somalia sea would be solved.

Wait a minute? The reason they didn’t go after real pirates and criminals are because they can get kill. So they took the safer route and raid online pirates who are not really pirates but innocent shipmates. OMG!!
Logical Mind

No matter how severe the punishment is, people will still do it. Does fear of the death penalty stop people from murdering one another? Nope. If solving the problem of crime were as simple as making new laws with harsher penalties, there would be no crime and we would all be living in a utopia. The only thing people will ever regret is being caught.

Consumers have a choice as to whether they wish to spend their money on entertainment or not. The copyright industry can try to force consumers to give them money through various means, but it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to realize all this would accomplish is the alienation of those consumers and in all likelihood have the opposite effect of what they’re hoping for. I’ve often wondered how many paying customers they lose for every one single “criminal” they go after as a result of their foolishness.

Outlawing/licensing/taxing encryption and all the other giant leaps we constantly see in the field of technology? Good luck with that. Believing the government will swoop in and save the day? Now that is self delusion at its finest. Technology has been helping the general public break the chains of those who wish to control them for the better part of a century. Has the government ever been at all effective in putting a stop to that fact? Has it ever been able to move quickly and decisively on any issue where a great deal of controversy is involved? History shows us that the answer is no. Without a doubt there are those within the government whom are on the side of industry, but there are just as many on the side of the public. The desires of the industry are no more or less important than that of everyone else and so long as the debate rages on, government will continue to be essentially ineffective like it so often is. It is much more likely that the copyright industry will collapse long before the government is able to do anything that actually matters.
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Anonymous

The contempt copyright maximalists have for us is truly palpable and clearly getting desperate. The biggest fallacy of the entertainment industry is their belief that any problem can be solved by simply throwing money at it. It’s always worked for them in the past and they cannot possibly conceive of a world where it doesn’t. So long as they keep thinking of consumers as cash cows to be milked whether they like it or not instead of living, breathing people and all the complexities and hardships of life that this implies, they will lose.
Fireside

Fuck the Polish Police and Fuck them all, In the end we will win.
Borderliner

“It is highly impractical to hold Google accountable as to do so would mean they would need to monitor the millions of Blogs which would mean the service wouldn’t be available, or at least not as some cost as I’m sure advertising revenue wouldn’t cover the man power required ot monitor that.”

Interesting argument. So it all comes down to size – if the platform is big enough then the one managing it isn´t fault, if it isn´t big enough then is? Shouldn´t the things run the other way – the platform which hosts (hundreds of) thousands copyright breaches should get cleaned (or if this is not feasible/possible then taken down) first to create maximum impact, and then the small players (read: leftovers which weren´t killed off by the masses of new users that emigrated from the big platform) would be taken next?
Mehz

30k big, hardly warez-bb has over 1million users and they are hosting in hong kong
abolish copyright now

Crenshaw is a monopolist of information. it is obvious that Crenshaw uses deception to defend the use of copyright law.

Crenshaw is using personal attacks to damage peoples credibility just like the monopolists of information have long relied upon shifting the focus away from the harm that copyright has caused society.

Crenshaw please let us all know the countries that give digital data the rights of ownership that physical property has.

the term “intellectual property” is misleading because intellectual property is not physical property and does not have the rights of ownership that physical property has.

it is an important distinction that intellectual property cannot be owned as opposed to the media on which intellectual property exists because the monopolists of information try to confuse society into thinking that copyright
infringement is theft. stealing data is a lie. intellectual property cannot be stolen because intellectual property is not a physical object or a service and
the ownership of intellectual property does not exist.

us copyright law expicitly establishes the ownership of copyright but does not provide for any ownership of intellectual property.

progress is due to technology and not intellectual property law. intellectual property law is used as a means to stop progress and ideas from being used in
manufacturing and research and development and in general is an attempt to make as much money as possible for the copyright or patent owner. intellectual property law is bad for the progress of society overall and only benefits the copyright or patent owner.

yes copyright enslaves ideas. copyright prevents the creation of derivative works of authorship. derivative works are the most natural way progress occurs and if copyright was abolished the progress of mankind would be greater than ever before seen.

copyright harms society by depriving society of the widespread access and usage of works of authorship. it is clear everytime someone accesses the internet that
copyright is preventing the free flow of information.

the tyranny from the enforcement of copyright is also clear due to the arbitrary and cruel and inordinate punishment.

society has decided that it will not be deprived of the free flow of
information. this is called progress and you cannot stop it.

now there is a potential for the greatest advancement of mankind from the free flow of all information including copyrighted information that has never existed
before. this potential justifies finding a way to end copyright.

also it is obvious that those who are pro-copyright are against competition and are really selfish and not interested in whats best for society.

if copyright was abolished then the internet would become a vast source of information for everyone to access and to use and to benefit from the free flow of information as it should be in a free society.
anon2TFRUT

Share everything!!!!
They can’t arrest us all.
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freedom

Police should look after real criminals such as murderers,rapist,thefts,id theft,skimmers and not to bother with outstanding citizens such as computer users.
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Polak

Help Us!
YellowFellow

C’mon guys, stop ratting out google. Thats the site I use for the hard to find stuff to download. If they prosecute google then I won’t be able to find all my magnificent releases of all those multiple sites that take the places of the sites that go down.

Geez ratting out the one good source.
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Reasoned Mind

@84, AbolishCopyright now says “the ownership of intellectual property does not exist.”
Yeah right.

You want to know why your bong-induced inaccurate postings here don’t influence anything? Maybe you should read a bit about what is REALLY going on behind you while you spout empty nonsense like at #84.

From Berkeley Law, the most liberal law university within the most liberal thinking region of America:

http://www.mediainstitute.org/new_site/IPI/021710_FileSharingCopyrighted.php
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Crenshaw

@abolish copyright now: “if copyright was abolished then the internet would become a vast source of information for everyone to access and to use and to benefit from the free flow of information as it should be in a free society.”

The flaw with your whole spiel there is the “information” we are talking about entertainment which is of really little consequence to all the noble ideas rubbish you wrote. It doesn’t advance society in a tangible fashion, it is a luxury product for people who have the time, wherewithall or oppotunity to enjoy. Please stop talking as though it is the basis of human advancement and without it the future of advancement is doomed – a child can see that this is unreasonable.

Sure, a few exceptions exist such as textbooks and such, granted. But you’re taking the extremists point of view that somehow they won’t be available for anyone to use when this is not the case – you can pay to aquire these copyrighted works if you wish. And the ideas espoused in most books of learning are based on abstract concepts which are available in many other places at no cost if you have the internet.

And by the way, in case you didn’t know around 1 billion people on earth starve everyday let alone have electricity to run a computer meaning your argument about the whole world not benefitting is pointless anyway – these people aren’t benefitting either way.
Randolf

how could the Police take offence to the pillars of society, we, the file sharers? We, who advance society by breaking the monopoly of that most vile group – the creators of entertainment!

Come, brothers and sisters, let us take to the streets to protest against this oppression! Who do they think they are dealing with? Let us cast off our anonymity and our VPNs and show the world who we are.

Yes, @Crenshaw, people may be starving in the world, but can that be more important than the fact that we don’t want to pay for movies and music? Why should we pay people for the music and films they have created? they all drive Bentley’s anyway. Did you know that the record companies make over £17 per CD in PURE PROFIT, and that profit is plowed back into their child-slavery business called POP MUSIC?

Brothers, I say again, let us take to the streets to protest against this outrage!

They just DON’T understand us! I bought a CD once, back in 1999, surely that entitles me to take any music I want now? Aren’t i helping the artist? I’m even thinking about going to a gig one day, when I’m old enough and have a girlfriend.

Let us be brave, stop being glued to our torrent sites, and take to the streets, show Gordon Brown that we won’t stand for this any longer!!

WHO IS WITH ME?!
Reasoned Mind

@91.

lol

“WHO IS WITH ME?!”

I surely am.
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Moogle

@dante Xavier

I wouldn’t be too sure about that. The RIAA and their accolades are brainwashing people that media sharing is all bad ;_;

They even got Sarkozy doing their dirty work for them now.
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Brudda

This little incident in Poland means nothing. They swatted one little fly. It has no effect on anyone, except the 3 who got arrested. The rest of us go on sharing, the rest of us go on downloading, the rest of us go on boycotting and hating “the industry”.

Yawn…roll over…go back to sleep and hopefully my latest movie torrent will be finished when I wake up.
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Theobald

I heard that the RIAA actually have a ray gun type thing that brainwashes people against file sharers. How dare they? THey are all horrible liars and they probably don’t even get on with thier mums very well.
Candy Smiles

@brudda, you sound so cool, I wish we could hang out. I bet you stick it to the man on a daily basis. Please let me smoke on your pipe. ; )
the truth

the ownership of intellectual property does not exist.

the ownership of copyright is established in us copyright law.

Reasoned Mind should take the time to understand the law.

if you are having trouble understanding the law then just read this:

“If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive
property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an
individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the
moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the
receiver cannot dispossess himself of it. Its peculiar character, too, is that
no one possesses the less, because every other possesses the whole of it. He who
receives an idea from me, receives instruction himself without lessening mine;
as he who lights his taper at mine, receives light without darkening me. That
ideas should freely spread from one to another over the globe, for the moral and
mutual instruction of man, and improvement of his condition, seems to have been
peculiarly and benevolently designed by nature, when she made them, like fire,
expansible over all space, without lessening their density in any point, and
like the air in which we breathe, move, and have our physical being, incapable
of confinement or exclusive appropriation. Inventions then cannot, in nature, be
a subject of property.”

— Thomas Jefferson

Crenshaw there is no flaw with my arguments. all information needs to be set
free from the chains of copyright. copyright needs to be abolished. society
needs to benefit from the ability to access and use all information.

Crenshaw please let us all know the countries that give digital data the rights
of ownership that physical property has.
Some Anon

Bring on the life sentences for downloading a movie. The public needs to wake up. The problem is Hollywood. If the Hollywood entertainment industry ceased to exist so would the copyright problems they’re causing.

Do it, put people in jail for downloading a computer file. Act like base entertainment is a valuable resource. Make everyone aware that you want to destroy lives to protect mind-rotting trash.
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scenekid

why the fck they are after kids ?
mike

Polish police used pirated version of Microsoft office. I been there and seen it.
Angry Canuck

A crackdown on big time criminals, how impressive and heroic of them.
Ngoo Nam

They can’t stop filesharing, no matter what.

They couldn’t stop Robin Hood, so to speak, how can they stop millions of Robin Hoods??

Sharing is a given, a human nature given. This filesharing explosion makes me smile and see a little daylight that the human race can survive the greedy and the evil… oops, sorry , for the sermon…

uhmm, where were we… oh yeah, it all started with tape recorder manufacturers…. or was it earlier. Oh yeah, it was that girl who gave the pilgrims some food… oh, earlier than that , too,…I am losing memory cells, so, anybody want to continue?

You can’t stop filesharing, or sharing of any other kind, greedy dudes.
Ngoo Nam

The only way to minimize piracy is to stop making the products so easy to copy and distribute.

Like, uhm, use dongles…
hehehe …which will work for a bit..

Also, use a 1000 to the 1000th power encryption key, not that wimpy 128-bit or 1024-bit key or some other wimpy encryption method.
harharhar

oh yeah, phase out computers and media recorders and the internet… that will stop media piracy for a while…
hehehe

LOL!! No matter how you bang your heads to the wall, greedy dudes, the sharers will come out to play.

Hmmm.. that Gibson Les Paul 1959 fake copy look oh so genuine, plays so good , too… I heard that from someone. hehehe

Get over it, greedy dudes! All the world’s people are connected to one another. There is no stopping the “sharing.” Unless , of course, you murder all the sharers. Reminds me of the Uroquios… :(

I’m off to sleep.
venusesobn

hi there! I am new to the board and just wanted to introduce myself :)
Francisco

They were getting paid so they have to be arrested.
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fluigefrejurn

Jim asked him once. Her turn would come next. He did not mention it. He finished dressing, quickly, pitilessly. There are other issues involved, besides questions of fact. That statement was issued in your name. Yet we have to deal with them. One cannot tell its nature, or its future .
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