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Top Torrent Sites Respect Copyright Takedowns, Just Like Google

Sites such as isoHunt, KickAssTorrents and Extratorrent are often characterized as lawless piracy havens that disregard the rights of content creators. But is this really the case? Not according to the site owners who say they are no different from Google. All the BitTorrent sites contacted by TorrentFreak say they remove content when they’re notified, with the number of requests processed ranging from just a handful to 1,680 per day.

pirate googleEntertainment industry groups including the RIAA and MPAA view BitTorrent sites as a major threat.

The owners of BitTorrent sites, however, believe they do nothing wrong. In fact, to the surprise of many copyright holders they are very responsive when they are asked to remove infringing links.

While it’s common knowledge that The Pirate Bay does not remove any copyright infringing links from its site, all of the other major BitTorrent sites do honor DMCA-style takedown requests. In this regard they are no different from other major search engines such as Bing and Google.

TorrentFreak asked several of the most popular BitTorrent sites (and top DMCA targets on Google) about their takedown policies. Although they differ quite a bit in terms of the number of requests they receive per day, they all remove copyright infringing links on a daily basis.

With 1,680 takedown requests per day, BitSnoop is the most-targeted site. Since December last year they complied with 363,956 requests. The top DMCA sender is Nate Glass from takedownpiracy.com.


BitSnoop’s top DMCA takedown senders

ExtraTorrent receives between 20 and 30 requests per day and approximately 3,000 links are removed every month. The response time to process DMCA requests varies from a few hours to three days according to ExtraTorrent’s administrator.

KickAssTorrents also deleted thousands of torrents every month, and this number is rising rapidly. In May KAT removed 19,005 torrent files, up from 7,604 in January.

Inspired by Google, the site is currently working on a detailed web-interface where the public can view takedown statistics.

“We are very serious about removing copyrighted content following DMCA requests. We have staff who review and process all incoming requests. On working days the processing time of these requests never takes longer than several hours,” KickAssTorrents’ owners told TorrentFreak.

isoHunt receive relatively few DMCA notices considering the size of the site. The site’s founder, Gary Fung, told TorrentFreak that they receive about eight requests per day. Since the site started, isoHunt has responded to 18,000 individual notices emailed by copyright holders.

Fung notes that the volume of takedown requests has increased over the years but that they always respond within five working days. This responsiveness is often met with surprise by the senders.

“With the hundreds if not thousands of copyright holders we’ve talked to, some have even come back to say thanks and commented that we aren’t what they expected, in terms of answering with their wishes and speed of our takedowns,” Fung told us.

“While the DMCA is by no means perfect nor is it a law of my country, I do stand by it as the closest thing we have to an amicable process between copyright holders and internet intermediaries that is international by nature. It’s unfortunate some choose to ignore it and sue instead, for reasons purely political.”

isoHunt’s founder further emphasizes that they are no different from Google when it comes to respecting the DMCA. Google previously distanced itself from isoHunt and other torrent search engines, but Fung disagrees.

“Since we index any and all BitTorrent sites on the Internet, for links to files on BitTorrent swarms, I would like to call Google bullshit on how their search engine is any different from ours, in nature as an Internet intermediary or intention to comply and work with copyright holders.”

Many other BitTorrent site operators share Fung’s opinion on this matter.

While BitTorrent sites may link to relatively more copyrighted content than Google, they comply with the same takedown requests. In this regard it’s ineffective for copyright holders to ask Google to censor isoHunt, BitSnoop, KickAssTorrents and Extratorrent links.

But perhaps that’s too easy?

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  • http://www.twitter.com/echoman74 echoman

    Fuck the mpaa/riaa!!
    nuff said.

    p.s.
    The internet didn’t invite you and the internet will be more than happy to see you leave.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003257189177 Mustikos Thaumastis

       haters gonna hate

      • http://www.twitter.com/echoman74 echoman

        I don’t hate i innovate. ;)

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        • ANoi

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      • http://www.twitter.com/echoman74 echoman

        Exactly!

    • But

      Nate Glass is the one top of the list at bitsnoop.

      • Nate’s Cat

        I heard that Nate’s cat is the real brains behind TakeDown Piracy LLC.

      • http://www.twitter.com/echoman74 echoman

        I just googled nate glass and saw his site. I have to read further.

    • The guy

      Couldn’t have said it better

      • http://www.twitter.com/echoman74 echoman

        Takes a bow thank you thank you very much ;)

        • The guy

          From a fellow file-sharer to a fellow file-sharer :)

      • http://www.twitter.com/echoman74 echoman

        Takes a bow thank you thank you very much ;)

    • YARIGHT

      everytime im constipated i think a hollywood

      • http://www.twitter.com/echoman74 echoman

        I here yah matey ;p ARGGGGGGHHH!!

    • Nadia

       yes extratorrent, seems all the good stuff is removed, I view stuff I would like to listen/preview and bookmark it, then come back days later ‘the content does not exist” ok why ever upload good stuff there to have it removed? How about upload it to many sites/mirrors so when they take down one, you still have it avalable? Its common sense. Also kickasstorrents also is supposably wanted and they take down torrents wtf. They are not even in us soil, not that the team america world poliece care. Heck they just raided mega and whatnot, and that itself is illigal. Lets get this corrupt gov and the builderbergs sent to guantanamo and see how they like it.

    • Nadia

       why not be like h33t and request $50 to remove a link that in itself, linking is not illigal? Since the mafiaa . org says 1 piracy link = millions in damages, it should be a bargain for them. Just think of how much they will save…

      • http://www.twitter.com/echoman74 echoman

        Lol they only pay to government because that’s all they know bribe, bribe some more.

        an example of their lies and bullshit and if anyone out there in government etc that reads this just go to imdb.com and check out the box office numbers they aren’t going broke it’s all b.s. and the imaginary 2.2 million peope they claim to be protecting.

  • I_HATE_EVERYONE

    They shouldn’t be accepting DMCAs at all. They don’t actually host content, they just link to links to content, which is what magnet links are.

    • Guest

      Althought I agree with the theory of hyperlinks shouldn’t be deemed as infringing, I do think torrents are quite differently viewed. Why you may ask? Well, linking to a cyberlocker is ok as the content owner can contact the file host to take the file down. Torrents, however, don’t have a way place to send the DMCA takedown since it’s decenteralised. As these torrent websites are centralised they target them since that’s the only chance they have at stopping it (other than illegally DDoSing it).

      For the record, I’m not saying I agree with the DMCA notices to torrents but I’m merely pointing out why logically it’s not that illogical to target the search engines.

      • Anyone

        what about magnet links?
        or simple hashes?

        it’s a slippery slope, so the best course of action is to allow no censorship whatsoever

      • Fredrika

        > “Torrents, however, don’t have a way place to send the DMCA takedown since it’s decenteralised.”

        How is the mere fact that someone wants so send a DMCA take down a reason why torrents should be removed? People have a legal right to index copyrighted works in a torrent and people have a legal right to upload copyrighted works, so a DMCA hinders people legal rights to fileshare copyrighted works.

        Secondly, your opinion seems to be based on the premiss that the copyright monopoly should regulate non-profit use of intellectual works in the first place, and that therefore indexing of such non-profit use shouldn’t be allowed, but then you completely skip the fact that there exists no scientific evidence whatsoever that’s supports the thesis that non-profit use needs to be regulated by the copyright monopoly in the first place, to achieve the goal with copyright, which makes the non-profit parts of the copyright monopoly illegitimate legislation, such as the ones they use in dictatorships.

        So what you are basically saying, although i assume you don’t understand it, is that to uphold illegitimate legislation, information should be censored.

        Unless you are a hypocrite, that means that you also believe that every step they take in dictatorships to uphold their illegitimate legislation, is also ok.

        If not, why should steps be taken to uphold some illegitimate legislation, but not some other illegitimate legislation?

        Regardless of your answer the European courts have already come to the fully logical conclusion that protecting the copyright monopoly is not more important than free speech and the human rights protected freedom to seek, receive and impart information, and that it therefore is disproportionate to legally demand that sites hosting user content should censor that information, to please some weak failed entrepreneurs that can’t handle themselves on the free market.

  • Krosis

    They’re just in it to bully us into submission!

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  • Anonymous

    if there were 16,000,000 take downs requested and followed per month, it isn’t what the entertainment industries want. what they are after is control of torrent sites because atm, it is the best way of sharing files. if they had that control and were able to charge as much as they liked for torrents, they would insist it was the best thing since the invention of the movie camera. as they dont control it atm, it’s the scourge of mankind and we will all rot in hell for using it!!

  • Zippin2

    wow had no idea they had so many and complied so well, although since they do not host anything and only index. The RIAA/MPAA etc are lucky they comply to any of them..

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  • http://twitter.com/Anime4PSP Anime 4 PSP

    “Entertainment industry groups including the RIAA and MPAA view BitTorrent sites as a major threat.”
    We the people view RIAA, MPAA and likes as a major thread to the free internet and ability to share culture.

  • Anon1

    I find it ironic that the MAFIAA insists on issuing DMCA style takedown requests but when a site like Google uses the DMCA safe harbor provision as a defense, suddenly its wrong and Google must be sued up the ass for “facilitation of copyright infringement” or some other such bullshit allegation.

    Its a double edged sword, once they get that through their thick skulls, we might be able to move forward.

  • Onewayjan-004

    it’s all about $$$ and each and every (mean!) means is used; for Hwood it never is ok. on Sunset the sun never sets.

  • http://profiles.google.com/sol.europa Bill C

    Now here’s a thought…

    if all the Non-US Bit torrent sites charged a small fee (say $10 per request) most of them could pay their bandwidth and server fees without requiring the use of ads…

    Just think about it!! The MAFIAA paying the bills of torrent sites…

    • foff

      What a great scam!  I love it.  I would set a site post a bunch fake ass torrents with big tv and movie names then charge $10 per take down.  I would be laughing at the stupid maafia all the way to the bank.  What fucking morons they are!

    • Guest

      Billing would mean you’d have to get a private offshore bank account (which is a pain in the butt to do) so they don’t get their identities discovered.

      You should charge the people who send DMCA notices via bots or are “on behalf” of the content owner but if it’s the actual content owner then you should remove it for free because they should be charged for something which is rightfully theres.

      • Fredrika

        > “..but if it’s the actual content owner then you should remove it for free because they should be charged for something which is rightfully theres.”

        First of all there is no content owner. Content as in intellectual works does not constitute property, and they can therefore not be owned. The torrent file does not belong to the content creator or the copyright holder, it belongs to the person who created the torrent.

  • foff

    If I ran torrent site I would give them the big big bird and say send your take down to the ones who are seeding.  Anyway I think I would host the site from at least a dozen different sites that rotate so when they sent the notice I would say sorry there is nothing hosted here!  I would have so much fun fucking with them.  I would create a tool that when it takes down a link it automatically reposts it under a slightly different name and give this to the poster allow him to enable the automatic reposting.   There are so many ways it would be fun to fuck with them.

  • h33t

    MAFIAA dont like google? here is the answer: MAFIAA get the fuk out of ourz internetz!

    google should block all MAFIAA content. google is not a right it is a privilege. DO NO EVIL!

    http://h33t.com lolz at Nate Ass you clown

  • Kernel Sanders: Panda Raper

    MAFIAA needs a big foot up their ass!

  • Anon

    In fact google might be the largest piracy site in the world, try searching for:
    the avengers filetype:torrent

    • nom!

      Actually bing should then be an even bigger piracy site since microsoft sends loads of dmca’s to google without removing them from bing. ^_^

  • Fredrika

    > “While it’s common knowledge that The Pirate Bay does not remove any copyright infringing links from its site “

    No Ernesto, there are no copyright infringing links on Pirate Bay, there are only legal non-copyrighted non-infringing links on Pirate Bay, which obviously aren’t removed. Links are not necessarily infringing just because someone says they are, or because the linked torrent happen to index copyrighted works. No relevant judicial systems penal court has claimed in a presedent sentencing that what Pirate Bay does is infringing, so therefore the judicial system doesn’t consider it infringing.

    Secondly, that KickAssTorrents censor links was news to me. Can someone please send me in the direction of a similar multi tracker index site that doesn’t? KAT has hereby outstayed their welcome among my bookmarks.

    • Guest

      KATs is only doing whatever is necessary to stop court orders etc. Just because you think it’s morally OK for links doesn’t mean the USA sees it like that. The internet is a global thing. Personally, I think they should censor inside the countries which demand it, like Twitter does (eg; recieves DMCA from USA, blocks USA from that link but every other country can still see/access it).

      • Fredrika

        > “KATs is only doing whatever is necessary to stop court orders etc.”

        Which has no relevance to the fact that i’m not interested in search engines that distorts the search results. Secondly, do you know under what judicial system KAT operates, and what they actually are required to do to obey that judicial system, or are you just guessing?

        > “Just because you think it’s morally OK for links doesn’t mean the USA sees it like that.”

        I have not discussed what’s morally ok. What the USA thinks of anything has no relevance whatsoever for which search engines that meet my demands.

        > “Personally, I think they should censor inside the countries which demand it, like Twitter does (eg; recieves DMCA from USA, blocks USA from that link but every other country can still see/access it).”

        Yes and others personally believe that other information should be censored. That’s one of the problems with censorships, everything should be censored according to someone, which is why it’s disastrous to start censoring according to someone’s belief, because if one party gets their wished heard, why should not the next one? If there’s one thing history has taught us it’s that censorship is never ever a good thing for society and mankind in any way, it only leads to more problems, and always in more than one way.

        • Fredriko

          Go ahead and create your own indexing site! It’s easy to criticize the work of other, and the way they protect their asses, but it’s more complicated to create your own TPB, isn’t it?

          ;)

        • Fredrika

          > “Go ahead and create your own indexing site! It’s easy to criticize the work of other, and the way they protect their asses, but it’s more complicated to create your own TPB, isn’t it?”

          What do you know about whether or not i already operate an indexing site? ;)

  • EdwardRMurrow

    You can always rely on TF to put up a completely biased opinion piece without even asking the other “side” of the story. 

    ExtraTorrent does not remove torrents, nor does KickAssTorrents.  KAT will remove 1 or 2 torrents from each DMCA and leave the rest.  Both of these sites acting like they remove materials is a joke.  But I guess it’s expecting too much for TF to actually verify a story or question anything a torrent site says. 

    So biased it’s painfully obvious.  Joke.

    • Guest

      Fair enough, but do you have proof either?

      Post some proof so TF can add the other “side” of the story into the article.

      @TF, you also forgot to mention about torrentz.eu on your list. They take files down regulary … not just taking the links down but blocks access to the MD5 hash page (so the entire hash is blocked) … which I find very DMCA compliant…. and also I see it as going over the top in trying to follow the DMCA takedowns.

    • ursaring93

      You say that as if “asking” both sides the story when, one as got to lying isn’t biased.

    • Guest

      Nate Glass, is that you?

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  • Guest

    “ExtraTorrent receives between 20 and 30 requests per day and approximately 3,000 links are removed every month.”

    Wow, someone got they calculations wrong or they take down more links than requested. :S

    • GoogleisaPirate

      Thats possible, the request may contain multiple ‘infringements’ or titles so the torrent site will just remove multiple listings with the same keywords.

  • Anonymous

    tinyurl.com/73huk6r

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  • YARIGHT

    Sites such as isoHunt, KickAssTorrents and ExtratorrentARE DEAD

    • Salvage

       lol yeah then you wont be left with any becoz most of the other sites index from these sites, except 1337x, h33t, Extratorrent ,KickAssTorrents, tpb maybe ahashare and isohunt are the sites where uploaders release there stuff,

      Rest of the istes just index the metadata from these sites

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  • Neotoasty

     I have to shake my head. We need a wake up call. The corporations are going to whine, bitch, moan, and cry regardless of how much they’re answering their petty little wants. Newsflash, guys. They want much much more than for torrentsites to delete torrents. They want those sites down and out, they want downloaders and uploaders arrested and charged without a fight.

    It’s obvious that they’re more in the wrong than pirates ever were. I just don’t know what to think to make a clearer thought about all of this. The MAFIAA is like that baby that won’t stop fucking crying, ever.

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  • Justin White

    Well, considering that ISOHunt is CANADIAN and isn’t bound by the DMCA and chooses to honour takedown requests anyways – I really don’t see how ANYONE can make a legitimate claim against it.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7GU4N7CVDBJXMZOBFO3DMIQZH4 J

    So if sending a nice letter saying “hey that’s our movie, please stop letting people download it” is enough, in most cases, to get it off their site…  Is there a reason we need to over-react & give the MPAA complete control over who can and can’t have their own corner of the internet to call their own?

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      Well, they try to bullshit that “It’s because of sites like The Pirate Bay, flagrantly acting illegally!’ problem with that twisted reasoning is that by the laws in the country where The Pirate Bay is/was hosted? They aren’t illegal. They ain’t in the motherfucking United States and most countries specifically say that indexing sites are legal.

  • http://www.runningwatersinc.com/ Alisha Thorne

    I really don’t see how ANYONE can make a legitimate claim against it.

  • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

    I would just say to hell with any takedown requests for anything except current-gen games, Blu-Ray quality movie rips, and a handful of other things if I ran these sites.

    Bottom line is that music, even full CD’s, fits into fair use if you subscribe to a cable/satellite TV provider because most of them include? MUSIC CHANNELS.
    Same thing for movies if you subscribe to those.
    Same thing for TV shows.

    Basically, the MPAA and RIAA want multiple bites at the apple. Thankfully, more and more people are waking up to the fact that they do not DESERVE those multiple bites.

    Hell, most times with the quality of the dross they put out, they don’t even deserve ONE!

  • FeelingNasty

    Anyone else feel like putting those email addresses into a nasty sites?

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  • http://otester.myopenid.com/ PiRat

    Of course Monopolies feel threatened by competition.

    • jOHN rYDER

      competition of free versus buy ????

  • Anonymous

    OK see, that jsut makes no sense at all to me ddue, None.
    Anon-not.tk 

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  • FreeBSD

    where does this one get off? complaining that google are transparent about take downs via chillingeffects but expecting full transparency from streaming services?

    http://thetrichordist.wordpress.com/2012/04/15/meet-the-new-boss-worse-than-the-old-boss-full-post/

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  • Anonymous

     tinyurl.com/73huk6r

  • jOHN rYDER

    hell you figure if it was just that easy that all, movies ,games, tv shows, and music would not be so easily available on these sights but they are????

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