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University Begins Reporting All P2P Users to the Police

Georgia’s Valdosta State University has updated its network with software that can pinpoint students who use P2P software. The university is committed to stop file-sharing on its network even if that results in prison sentences for students. Offenders will be disciplined by the school and then handed over to the police, the university has announced.

vsuIn recent years, US colleges and universities have undertaken measures to reduce piracy, and go after students who use file-sharing networks to share copyrighted files.

In July, the US put into effect a new requirement for colleges and universities to stop illicit file-sharing on their networks. This legislation puts defiant schools at risk of losing federal funding if they don’t do enough to stop illicit file-sharers on their campus.

Schools across the country responded appropriately to the new rules and some have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to install anti-file-sharing systems on their network. This week, Valdosta State University (VSU) upgraded theirs. According to the university it can now identify students who use P2P software, and those who are caught will be reported to the police.

“Once individuals are identified, VSU hands responsibility over to police. Users can face felony punishments, including a possible prison sentence of up to five years and a fine of up to $250,000 per offense,” reports the student newspaper.

The new system is undoubtedly going to cause collateral damage, since an effective P2P detection tool will be unable to make a distinction between legitimate and illegitimate use of P2P software. This means that booting up your BitTorrent client to download free films such as Snowblind will result in a referral to the police station.

To some these measures may appear as a witch-hunt against students using P2P software, but Joe Newton, VSU Director of Information Technology, sees it as a form of education.

“As an institution of higher learning, we will take an educational approach to the problem and use approved campus procedures to reach appropriate resolutions,” he said.

Combating piracy is not a new endeavor for the Georgia university. VSU already had anti-piracy tracking tools installed, but with the old system it was not possible to identify individual users. In addition, the old system was increasingly being bypassed by certain branches of P2P software.

“Over this past summer, ‘Ares’, a new P2P program/protocol became popular among college students. Ares allows its users to evade school network controls that limit P2P use,” it was reported.

Those who are ‘educated’ on P2P technologies do of course know that this application is hardly new. In fact, the first version was released back in 2002, long before BitTorrent clients such as uTorrent and Vuze emerged.

It seems that VSU’s harsh talk is part of a scare campaign to prohibit students from using P2P software. We doubt that the police will be involved at all, and if they are it seems unlikely that they will take any form of action without a complaint from a rightsholder.

Update September 15: VSU Director of IT Joe Newton came out with a response to the news today. “The Spectator article was, unfortunately, factually in error. While our process is not yet defined, we currently do not hand over students to the Police nor have we purchased software to hunt them down and I cannot foresee that we would ever do so.”

Update September 16: We received the following response from VSU Chief Information Security Officer William Moore “There are many beneficial uses of P2P file sharing and the University does allow use of approved P2P type programs including those used for software patching and other academic uses. Our stance is the “unauthorized” use of P2P software is a violation of policy which is intended to keep nonacademic uses from overwhelming institutional bandwidth; however, appropriate uses of P2P software can be approved and are not a violation of institutional policy.”

Update September 16: We received the following response from The Spectator’s Editor-in-Chief Amy Johstono. “Joe Newton is correct in that police never have been and are not currently involved with tracking file sharers. The reporter misunderstood the information he was given. Valdosta State University only limits P2P sharing so to save bandwidth. The IT department receives reports on copy right infringement violations from companies like ISACA, RIAA, MPAA, etc. and consults the the individual user about the incident. If they are found to be in violation of copy right law, they are reprimanded as per VSU’s Student Code of Conduct. If the offended party decides to pursue the situation further, the student can then face charges related to copy right infringement.”

It turns out that the writer of the article mistook a standard copyright infringement warning (where third party investigators monitor file-sharing networks) for a new university policy. The original article where we took the quotes form has been pulled now.

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  • Stupid

    Seedbox and FTP client, job done.

  • Rob

    What is the legislation that you referred to? I’m interested in reading up on that.

  • Weee

    Cool! They will probably get a better education in jail anyways.

    Maybe they can use wifi in jail to, so they can fileshare with other inmates.

    Two thumbs up!

  • lulz

    @1 Don’t forget VPN, that works as well from any box you can add a network connection to or boot USB live cd.

  • meh

    I’m curious if this is actually legal in the first place. IP infringement isn’t a criminal issue in the first place, it’s a civil one. So reporting “offenders” to the police with threats of possible felonies seems overreaching on their part.

  • mshenrick

    omg. so you could get arrested for downloading ubuntu

  • J

    I suggest rampant encrypted CC filesharing followed by class action defamation lawsuits woot!

  • Drag0nflamez

    no, reported.

    Also, they can also just block the whole Bittorrent protocol – instead of reporting downloaders.

  • Anonymous

    ..so do they put as much effort in educating their curriculum as they do in “educating about copyright”?

  • Adrian

    In the same way that Twitter is currently flooded with people making various comments relating to #twitterjoketrial, it’s not that far-fetched that, at some point in the near future, a number of students at that university will start legally using P2P software en masse in a challenge to the University’s assumed authority.

    Once the police have notified the University for the hundredth time that no crime has been committed – and, to stop wasting their time – I can see this being discontinued.

  • Derek

    I would get all the students to download Ubuntu or some open source software just to tick the school and police off.

  • illunatic

    “The new system is undoubtedly going to cause collateral damage, since an effective P2P detection tool will be unable to make a distinction between legitimate and illegitimate use of P2P software.”

    inb4 prove it.

  • Sl

    Well thats one way of cutting off people from applying.

    If people are repeatedly reported for downloading legal stuff, the person doing the reporting can be arrested. They should all seed legal stuff and see what happens.

  • aForce

    These measures are like a teethless dog..

    VPN FTW!

  • Reggit

    Well i guess the way to go would be to encrypt everything you download – just use a VPN, Or put a trojan on another users PC and download from that persons PC via proxy, Or download from the local mcdonalds, put files on your phone then bluetooth the file to other people (Or just copy over a LAN) – So many different ways to get all the media you want even if the whole Universitys network was shutdown! – One small problem, if you dont have access to the latest episode of whatever, but the guy in the dorm next to you does, whats stopping him from saying “Sure, ill do you a copy….for $2″ – this legislation runs the risk of turning filesharers into fully fledged pirates =/

  • yummy

    Being a legend gets you laid.

    Being a p2p master and not her bitc*.

    If it looks like shit smells like shit – so this is probably the shit.

  • Pong

    In addition, the old system was increasingly being bypassed by certain branches of P2P software.

    So will the new one be.

    And this is just riddiculous. 100K for a monitoring software? It’s good to see money well spent, particularily because –> see 2. phrase.

  • Pong

    And neva forget Jeff Goldblum’s line in Jurassic Park:

    Henry Wu: You’re implying that a group composed entirely of female animals will… breed?

    Dr. Ian Malcolm: No, I’m simply saying that life, uh… finds a way.

  • Anonymous

    so how much for the “tools” to track this? Money well spent in a depression? ID10T’s

  • Pong

    And good points made before about downloading/seeding legal material, this would throw some sand into the system making the money spent even more riddiculous.

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  • Anonymous

    ares has been around for years, it just seems new because everybody (well, not everybody, but more often than not) was using limewire.

  • Pong

    Hi Student, if you read this:

    Go to:

    http://www.backtrack-linux.org/downloads/

    Download the 2GB iso file, then do it again, and again, and again…:)…then upload, just to fuck up the upload bandwidth too…:)

  • Anon

    Doesn’t WoW use P2P for software updates?

  • Taylor

    Most universities have very large DC++ networks, you can grab just about anything and the school can’t do jack about it because it’s backed off the lan network and doesn’t reach outside. Another positive to this is that you get a very solid 10Mbps download speed.

  • anon

    The Idiots are just going to encourage Darker Sinister shit on there Networks In House LOL more MAF shit that don’t work. Seed or Bleed!!!

  • ElDusto

    Just going to alienate the students. Of course, the CS students will be forced to create new ways of using P2P within a school. I’d like to see a student revolution with 100% of the students downloading Ubuntu (or CentOS, or whatever) LEGALLY. As they won’t be able to determine what is legal and what isn’t legal downloading, they should stop. Of course, the students will need to backup all their other downloads and pirated software offsite! :)

  • Anonymous

    Waiting for all starcraft2 gamers to get reported to the police… Since blizzard uses bittorrent to distro patches and such.

  • Jigsy

    Can’t wait to see how many get arrested for downloading Ubuntu or Open Office.

  • r3loaded

    I smell a lawsuit coming up…

  • VODO

    Well you could download legal torrents like crazy.. Then when the “suspend” you to the police.. You haven’t done anything illegal. Just the school thats dumbed itself out..

  • Arthur Jensen

    all the students should boot up onion routing and the tor protocol, and share all the linux distro’s over p2p.
    That’s gonna fix the feckers

  • hotdog

    lol I bet the Dean downloads porn stupid Wanker.

  • Binary Bob

    Mininova has loads of legal, yet mostly boring, torrents. I would use it and make the school report me. Then, I would sue the school.

  • mike

    i am a university lecturer in the uk, universities have to control the networks on campus. end of story.
    we do the same with p2p but we dont stop them visiting porno sites! lol.

  • politux

    I’m doing 2 years of a 4 year bit for downloading Linux Mint 8.

  • anon

    well im not surprised at all. schools are just locked up info u get overcharged for like any other dinosaur institution, cough, mafiaa, cough. its good that students learn as early as possible that its them vs business. itll just be same ish different day, when they graduate and see yobamas been bought paid for and giftwrapped by lobbyists just like their dean was at school. way to go US ‘government’, keep turning succesive generations into tech savvy cyberanarchists, cryptographers, and cynical government haters. brilliant.

  • Acce

    This should have been a scenario for a Boston Legal episode. Alan Shore downloads a linux distro on the campus to challenge the law!

    Anyway there are plenty of ways to fcuk up the system. In the last 4 months i’ve downloaded at my job and university at least 1tb and they both are supposed to have strong anti-piracy tools! Keep on seeding!

  • harry krishna

    so do they get a student discount on rapidshare?

  • Anonymous

    All students should report the university to the police

  • Heee-Haw

    10 down and 5 billion more to hunt down lol the mafiaas never gets tired of hunting lol

  • Anonymous

    I think that this university is misinformed about the law. If they caught a student actually being the initial uploader of a movie or piece of music, then they could report them to the authorities…I would say the FBI.

    However, to say that they will be reported to the police for sharing files on P2P (even if they are copyrighted), is not going to get them anywhere. Police have no jurisdiction over copyright issues in this manner. Also stating that there is a fine of $250,000 is absurd. I think these students need to challenge this nonsense.

    Of course it’s the right of the University to limit or prevent P2P for copyright infringement, but to do it this way is dishonest.

  • Deville

    VPN tunnel and the problem is gone…

  • Izkata

    A better example of the idiocy would be World of Warcraft. Doesn’t it use bittorrent for its updates?

  • Dia

    University networks in the US seem to be so unprivate that you are better off buying adsl instead of using them for p2p.

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  • Scary Devil Monastery

    @Iskata #41

    Most large file transfers today use bittorrent protocol in one form or another. The sterling exception being Usenet…which will most likely slip directly past the radar and allows your average student on a network link to do solid 24/7 downloading at consistent speeds most BT users can’t even dream of.

    But yes. This is most likely a matter of the university being forced by law to issue a warning and a policy in order for their network to qualify for “safe harbour”.

    I’m guessing very few on the U actually give a rat’s ass about what the students are downloading or not.

  • Jerry Goldsmith

    Gee…. I’m so glad I can download all this wonderful LINUX and OPEN SOURCE stuff via bittorrent…..

    OH NO I’M IN JAIL

  • titus

    please tell us something about RARBG!!!

  • Anonymous

    @titus: It’s working fine here.

  • Inspiration?

    Is it just me, or does that sign over the entrance to VSU look a lot like this one: http://www.masonmichigan.net/amf/pictures/Arbeit-macht-frei.jpg

  • Anonymous

    So a world of Warcraft patch will get me reported to the police?

  • ‘puterman

    so Porn tube site are still okay right? So long as I don’t download anything…

  • Nome (-g)

    “The university is committed to stop file-sharing on its network even if that results in prison sentences for students.”

    How can ANY university, -or even kiddygarden, for that matter-, be commited to stop file-sharing, while it is tought at many of them? Never mind any U/D for educational matters. > ‘Dummy guide to install Linux’..being a simple example.

    In the world I life in: a computer + connection to ‘zeh internuts’ is required for any and all demands. (school/ work/ bank/ chitchat/ etc) It’s a friggin right, even.

    @48
    Use Peerblock.com & http://iblocklist.com/lists.php wisely.

    Blizz is known for hooking up, with port 80. Login screen, server messages on the left side of you’r screen. In short, likely you are known to play (sometimes even) on private servers, and thus you are in violation of the EULA from ‘Blizz’.

  • Anonymous

    They should go even further than simply downloading Ubuntu over bittorrent (http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/).

    They should download Ubuntu ISOs openly. Using the preinstalled Transmission software on a Ubuntu computer. With the default settings (which enable encryption and DHT). In a public hallway at a time of day when lots of people are passing. Displaying the computer screen at a large size on a nearby wall with a projector. With a whole film crew registering every step. With posters, signs and leaflets proudly explaining exactly what is being done, with the Ubuntu logo proeminently visible. While burning and distributing Ubuntu Live CDs to everyone who passes by.

  • Some Ideas

    There goes the idea of using the bittorrent protocal for distance education….way to limit your future technology options Valdosta State!

    The bittorrent protocal would be a great delivery method for distance education seminars, classes, media presentations, etc.

    With this opportunity, more people would have access to an education.

    Maybe distance education via the bittorrent protocal would make redundant all these places of learning who have so zealously banned bittorrent.

    Good idea and sweet revenge.

  • three-oh-six

    They probably just got tired of getting messages from the RIAA and tthe mafia for infringement and just blame it on the students, if i were faculty there that’s where i would dl, just blame it on a student!

  • It’s me

    Here’s yet another example of how profiteers are utilizing government and private sector interests to channel money into their own coffers. Instead of using FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt) to freeze citizens in their tracks why can’t the damn “rights-holders” figure out how to make a profit by fulfilling the needs of its (once-upon-a-time) customers?

  • Anonymous

    In addition to post 50

    “How can ANY university, -or even kiddygarden, for that matter-, be commited to stop file-sharing, while it is tought at many of them?

    1.)Rain tsjek
    2.)Brain tsjek

    Pardon the tsjecking.

  • vk.com

    The Riaa are dos hacking vk.com right now. How come they don’t get sued for doing it but we get sued for downloading music. It’s a bigger crime to dos hack.

  • Cujo

    pissing off the students(new whipass coders)

    what a great idea lol

  • Ralonto

    We have a word for people and institutions like that, we call ‘em NSBers.

  • Anonymous

    so what if someone uses retroshare

    what you gonna do about p2p now guys? huh huh huh huh?!

  • omg

    god usa you will never understand …. and a other step for the world to hate you !

  • Redial

    What a waste of time and money.

  • Anonguy

    “As an institution of higher learning, we will take an educational approach to the problem and use approved campus procedures to reach appropriate resolutions,” he said.

    That is NOT education. That is indoctrination.

  • Doink

    “3 Nov 12, 2010 at 16:09 by Weee

    Cool! They will probably get a better education in jail anyways.

    Maybe they can use wifi in jail to, so they can fileshare with other inmates.

    Two thumbs up!”

    LOL
    hehehe
    bwahahahaha

  • Anonymous

    The corporatists have really, really, crossed all the red lines and now it is our turn to retaliate against them without restrain.

    It is a war guys the people VS the corporations!

  • Steve

    I can’t wait for the class-action lawsuit against Blizzard.

    “Defendants alleged that the Blizzard software program ‘Starcraft 2′ came bundled with an illegal peer-to-peer distribution network, and that the potential illegality of this software was not disclosed to the user during installation.”

  • Anonymous

    “Georgia’s Valdosta State University”

    Sound like a communist university.

    Who want to study there?

    Not me.

  • Anonymous

    Do the corporate criminals really believe it is going to MAKE US go back and buy there shit?

    NO WAY!

  • Anonymous

    If a school says no p2p. Then no, you can’t download Linux. Christ people cmon…

  • Anonymous

    Paging beast man puke in aisle 3.

  • Anonguy

    “If a school says no p2p. Then no, you can’t download Linux. Christ people cmon…”

    Um. Read the article again. They imply that ALL p2p is automatically illegal, and indiscriminately report filesharers to the police. Which is bullshit.

  • Reddit

    I work IT for Valdosta state, and nothing is farther from the truth than what the college newspaper wrote. The whole IT department is furious, and our own director went after the person that wrote the article in the school newspaper. He made us out to be like we are in our tech shops scanning our networks for people downloading p2p clients. We could careless.

    We recently began giving out individual IP’s to all the dorm rooms and every computer on campus. This gives us a better ability to remote desktop in, have better networks, update our AD system, control viruses, and I would hate to say it but track people doing illegal stuff. Bare with me I am a computer tech so I don’t work the networking side. I have no insider news to how strict or what the policy is going to be since I am just a computer tech, but I’m pretty sure we aren’t going to be busting in doors with cops and dragging people out for p2p bs. From a more business/lawyer type perspective I would also see it as an attempt by the university to shift blame to the student/person who is doing something illegal. The directors are just talking a big game to avoid any troubles in the future. I hope this clears things up. VSU is a great school, and our IT department are all pretty chill people but when the order comes from the top (the govt.) you have to listen or they’ll take our funding.

  • me

    Prehaps all students should use p2p and all download nothing but legal material for several weeks.
    Are they going to report everybody to the police, especially when it quickly becomes obvious no laws were broken?

  • Anonymous

    lol #3

    that’s one way of coping with insanity… without drugs

  • DERP

    Just use Megaupload/Hotfile/etc.

    It’s that easy.

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  • a

    colleges could use this as an advantage when they protect students’ privacies. They could advertise that privacy is a top concern to attract students.

  • hotdog

    I think all the student in that college should take a class action lawsuit against the university that should put them on their feet.I mean seriously spending money to teach students something and get sued!!! Are you kidding me????

    @60 Get what define getting something be more definitive!!!

    lol and good to see so many Linux users. anyways the students can always go to the ubuntu main website and order a copy.It takes a bit of time but at-least you have a copy.

    OR

    They could go to the book store and get a Linux magazine I think they have ubuntu magazine or any magazine that has Linux that simple.I think the dean is some redneck old fart.Which makes me laugh he probably went to Woodstock and smoked mj did mushrooms and had sex in public and now thinks our generation is so screwed up!!! lol WTF EVER!!!

  • Ninja

    Vpn wouldn’t hide the fact you are transferring large amounts of data through multiple connections to the same ip, would it?

    In any case, pay a few bucks for your own connection. If I was studying there I’d queue several free stuff such as linux, bt released movies and so to get myself caught and then laugh after winning a freakin lot of money on a lawsuit against the college…

  • hotdog

    what I meant about going to the book store the magazines have copies of the magazine.
    As for ubuntu’s main site you can get a copy by ordering it. It’s free they send it free.

  • traum

    Oh my they start licking some one..pin hole. Really need more employed cops guard and yeah they have money, nice going…

  • Ninja

    “Which makes me laugh he probably went to Woodstock and smoked mj did mushrooms and had sex in public and now thinks our generation is so screwed up!!! lol WTF EVER!!!”

    I lol’d warmly at this. Hope I don’t become a stupid old fart. Just an old fart lol.

  • DJDANKVT

    Screw you Valdosta state prison, ughm I mean university….

    You should be encouraging students minds to think outside the box!

    …..Instead your just banning students from using P2P technology because you assume it’s all “bad” and that ANY P2P technology is used for illegal purposes, which is totally false….what about the legit uses P2P has….burn in hell Valdosta!

  • afrowolf

    What a great way to repel potential students. I hope there are better places in Georgia to learn than this.

  • Anonymous

    @66 Anonymous

    “Georgia’s Valdosta State University”

    Sound like a communist university.

    Who want to study there?

    Not me.

    Sounds like a communist university*

    Who wants to study there*

    Obviously, you and proper grammar are not friends. So I really doubt you and ANY university education would go well together.

  • Anon

    Well that’s atleast one university which has the balls to stand up against rampant illegal piracy committed by students using university internet. Kudos!

    All universities should follow suit and start reporting to the cops.

  • Anonymous

    @84: Sup troll?

  • Anon

    So im guessing that its not scanning TRAFFIC since you would just encrypt that but it is instead scanning the computer for the client??

    Seems easy to stop.. software firewall should be able to identify it and block it completely..

    but im probly not understanding correctly..

  • Anon

    @71 Reddit

    IP to each dorm? Public IP?

    I highly doubt it.

    You have any idea what that would cost?

    If your not talking about public IP then you pretty much didn’t make any sense since how the else would it work? They HAVE to be using DHCP.

  • Anonymous

    lol @ americans, I can’t stop laughing at your country

    the land of the free, LMFAOO

  • man-o-tor

    Quote from
    Ernesto, T.F., prof.: The origin of the Torrenthood
    - A retrospective of the great “T”epression in 2010 (March 2082):

    [...]“and so the “Torrenthood” was born.
    A secret society, merged from the geeks and footballstars, that raised in the days of the great “T”epression with only one goal:
    to ridicule the big copywrong-corporations, the movie-mafia and their shysters. It soon spread around the whole planet earth, and the most honorable success was to beat every other cell of the “Torrenthood” in releasing the latest moviez, gamez and songz to the so called “world wide web” (internet -> DataNet covering a whole planet).
    The competition and secrecy led to more and more sophisticated ways of circumventing the blocking systems and climaxed into the complete collapse of an evil institution called “copyright”!”[...]“And that is why there is total freedom today with people being able to share freely whatever they like.”

  • Good Grief

    I imagine the scene in prison as the new inmate addresses his cell mate….

    new inmate….“So, what are you in here for?”

    cell mate….”Rape and attempted murder. How ‘bout yourself?”

    new inmate….“Downloading Puppy Linux.”

    cell mate….”Oh sh*t, you went big time didn’t you?”

    new inmate….”Fe reals.”

    Geez, come on Vidalia Onion State University, aren’t there more important things to focus on than policing bandwidth to a dorm? Good grief, things must be so problem-free there that you would have time to focus on such trivialities.

    Students…for the love of all that is holy….

    1. Use Peerblock.

    2. Select encryption in your bittorrent client.

    3. Enable passwords through your os (screensaver option) and bios so nobody can access your rig when you aren’t around.

    4. Use a VPN.

    5. Don’t run your mouth and live low-key.

  • Sophia

    This move is stupid beyond belief!
    We all know that to use P2P software in itself is NOT illegal! Only the stuff you download could be illegal.
    This move by the university is a win for the MAFIAA! There is nothing they would love more than to demonize P2P altogether. Apparently they are succeeding.
    We all need to unite and fight this.

  • Anonymous

    U.S.A

    United States of Arrogance

    Guns for everyone = great

    Hospitials for Rich ONLY = Super

    And now just added . . . . . .

    Jail for students who share.

    .

    The greatest country in the world ?

    LMAO

    There is no such thing as
    “”The greatest country in the world”"

    BUT iF THERE WAS . . . . .

    The U,S ain’t it !

    Corrupt government proceedures and corrupt laws , make it the country of the the corperations.

    People are just second claSS.

  • hmmm

    Maybe an admin in this university who’s running a scene dump, and doesn’t want his bandwidth eaten by students ? :D

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    . . . . . tHANK fuk i LiVE in EuropE . . . . .

  • Francis

    Ubuntu in torrent and you’re going to the po po. nice xD

  • noko

    @97:

    ToO BaD You TyPE liKE an IdiOT…

  • Robert

    This is a monumental mistake for VALDOSTA STATE UNIVERSITY to make..

    They have just slit their own throat…

    There will be thousands of students who will switch to another college next term, and thousands more who will avoid even applying to VALDOSTA STATE…

    Soon VSU will be a GHOST TOWN…

    Empty classrooms, empty dorm rooms, laid off professors…

  • neb

    “ares”? Where the heck have these folks been? Must have some big rocks down south.

    Where is the ACLU when you need them.

    Hogwash…….

    As for the take down or criminal sites, I agree….

    Pirates are in Mogadishu, not in BT.

  • jojo

    We all know how much the police love these sorts of cases.

  • hiho

    “i went to college to buy time, man that ish was expensive.”

    refuse! deny!

  • elduka

    i would diffentally not let people get away with this if they screwed me like this

  • Jim

    They can solve the problem,
    Just abolish $Windows , it is the heart of the problem

  • Anonymous

    one less university to consider -yawn-

  • Anonymous

    if this is as effective as it says then the student body is gonna be torn into two groups, the in jail or the too poor to pay their tuition.

    well atleast this higher education institution will implement a program that will foster innovation even if it’ll be against their interest

  • Anonymous

    This is Valdosta State. Not exactly Princeton so, not only is the institution somewhat lower quality than most community colleges, the students are about the same.

    Can they computer?

  • Response

    @108 Anonymous

    My friend, that is a very condescending attitude that you have.

    Anyone at any school has the capacity to learn, to achieve, to excel. Whether the school is elitist or not is irrelevant. It is about individuals learning and growing. This can be done at any school.

    Being from the South, I have visited their campus and I was very impressed with the school and how helpful, friendly, and welcoming everyone was. The campus is very well kept also.

    Considering that the tuition is actually affordable in these times of financial setbacks, I would consider that a great advantage.

    Looking at this issue, you must realize that they felt obligated to implement these policies because of governmental pressure, not because someone at the campus just had a wild notion to become anti-p2p. Keep in mind, they receive funding from the government so it was probably in their best interest to cooperate.

  • About Valdosta

    This is the website link to Valdosta State with pictures and an “about” section.

    http://www.valdosta.edu/vsu/about/

    It’s a nice school!

  • advice

    This one is easy, first purchase a VPN service. Then install Azureus. In Options -> Connection -> Advanced Network Settings, you can check “Enforce IP bindings” and bind the VPN interface that you’re using. This means Azureus will only download through your VPN in case you get disconnected from the VPN.

    Disable IPv6 in the same setting screen. Then search Google on how to change your DNS to something like OpenVPN to prevent leakage.

    If you need to hide your porn, create an empty partition with no drive letter/label and TrueCrypt it.

    If your cellphone have an unlimited data plan you can tether internet from it instead.

    The government is making its citizen criminals to profit and suppress them. Just like how I see stupid cops (aka taxman with lethal weapons) standing on the side of the road and clocking people with speed gun, with a secondary cop on a motorcycle to chase the speeder. They used to only do that shit in third world country where innocent accused have to bribe the cop.

  • lol

    @1 Seedbox +ftp…lol…usenet +SSL = 6 times cheaper.

  • can’t resist..

    @36

    “well im not surprised at all. schools are just locked up info u get overcharged for like any other dinosaur institution, cough, mafiaa, cough. its good that students learn as early as possible that its them vs business. itll just be same ish different day…”

    Corrections:

    I’m
    Schools
    information that you
    It’s
    It’s
    vs.
    It’ll

    Try getting some education yourself matey… make the most of M&W :) It’s free!

  • meh

    Look any private network can choose to run it as they see fit. If I choose to not let anyone visit a certain site on my home PC then I can, because it’s mine.

    The problem isn’t the university’s new policy, which sound like an OTT warning to scare people into not losing them their funding grants. The real problem is the one about the stupid laws.

    Get over this storm in a teacup.

  • anti-piracy-bit

    just a tip:
    Download a completley legal file through a torrent client (linux distribution for example). Then when you get a legal desist order counter -sue with all your logfiles inplace.

    P2P is nor illegal

  • 1rtrrrtrtrt

    It’s a shame to be their student

  • Anonymous

    The US of A is already a jail. Thank god I’m in europe

  • Anonymous

    step 1: download legal torrent
    step 2: tell all your friends to do the same
    step 3: everyone gets reported
    step 4: uni stops reporting people

  • “big name” school

    I attended an elitist “big name” school and I regret it.

    The school was very large, about 15,000-20,000 students, and I felt like an insignificant cog in a great big machine. Only a few close friends knew my name.

    The class sizes were so large at times (about 500 people) that you couldn’t really have one on one time with the professor. I have always thought students did the best when they could be closer to their fellow students and also have time to develop a rapport with the professor. Small schools like Valdosta State are excellent because networking with other students and the professor is so much easier….and they can remember your name. It’s much more personal and intimate.

    When I left the “big name” school with my degree, I felt I received a good education, but I was saddled with an enormous debt. Believe me, leaving school with a lot of debt on you is not a good place to be.

    I recently saw an old professor of mine and I spoke to him. He didn’t remember me.

    If I could go back in time, I would go to an affordable, small school like Valdosta State while working part-time and not have to be burdened by massive debt.

    It is my hope that in the future, educational institutions will further embrace the idea of distance learning so that an education will be more affordable and accessible for a greater number of people.

    We have the bandwidth.
    We have the delivery method (bittorrent).
    We have the means to make it affordable (pdfs instead of bulky expensive textbooks, lower tuition fees since operating costs would be less).

    So why don’t we work to achieve this and make it more widely accessible and accepted? Unfortunately, many traditional schools see distance learning as sort of a threat to their business models, so is it any wonder distance learning is impeded? It’s not “elitist” enough I suppose. Many schools are starting to offer a few degrees, but they haven’t exactly fully endorsed the idea yet. There is also the stigma that this form of learning is not as high quality as traditional means. We can achieve high quality and set higher standards. It’s not a problem. We just need the passion to improve its quality and the ability to change our outlook.

    It’s unfortunate that the US Government in its shortsightedness perceives bittorrent as a threat because it cuts off the possibility of using the protocol in distance education. Bittorrent is an excellent delivery method for seminars, classes, presentations, etc. By banning the protocol at colleges and universities, they are crippling the future technological development of distance learning. They are limiting possibilities.

    When it’s all said and done, the best education for me wasn’t at the “elitist” school, but rather through living and experiencing life, learning new skills, and reading as much as possible.

  • TheSpark

    Downloading copyrighted content, even uploading it, is only a civil matter. Police can’t do anything.

  • AgreementWithYou

    I don’t live on campus but even if I did my school basically outsourced all the residential internet to Roadrunner and doesn’t have anyone in the dorms on the actual school network, now people going and doing that in the actual computer labs or over the wifi etc is a dif story…

  • Ebumboo

    Drop out!

  • Anonymous

    You guys think thats bad, I go to California State University, Chico, and they have big signs all over campus that says were watching and will turn u over to get sued if u download. They also go through the dorms for inspections and will look at your computer and report you for having a torrent client. I got in trouble for updaitng wow through the wow torrent client lol. I switched to an off campus isp and i came in one day to see a guy from the university on my computer that i almost beat the hell out of who then reported me for having a torrent client even though i wasnt on their network. Fuckin hate my university and their fascist bullshit.

  • Jo Ming

    Wow, no way dude that is just like totally messed up man.

    online-privacy.edu.tc

  • Anon

    Dear fellow members of the encrypted underground world,

    Please give a warm welcome the couple of hundred new petty filesharers who will be joining our ranks this year! Please help them to integrate in any way you can as as the end of the way, their extra traffic will act as a nice white noise barrier for other actual criminal activities running ramping all over the internet deep in encryption circles.

  • Freedom

    So its fair to turn students in for downloading via P2P? How about the crimes that the myriads of Universities and their heads are employing in raising student tuition by the double-digit percentages and stealing from students so the fat cat heads can go fishing on a workday? Lmfao, so fail! Better to learn from your public library! (courtesy of Matt Damon from “Good Will Hunting”)

  • ROLF

    What kind of university is that ?

    as its the academic principle to distribute knowledge and interlectual property freely within the frame of the university.

    ..in our university-library they scan books and give them away on usb keys..

  • sm

    #124
    Wow, no way dude your vpn is totally phucked up

  • Anonymous

    Universities are for suckers. So are educational establishments in general.

    Seriously. All the education that anybody could ever need to accomplish anything is already available on the Internet. For free.

    If a student is smart, they’ll drop out and educate themselves on their own terms and own time. And it’ll all stick, since they’ll be learning nothing but what they actually want to.

    Sure, they won’t have a diploma. But those things are barely worth toilet paper in the real world, so no loss there.

    Put yourself at the mercy of an institutional beauracracy dependant on government funding, though, and BS like this VSU debacle is all you should ever expect to receive.

  • Anonymous

    graduates are earning less than middle-school drop outs

  • joe bloggs

    “but Joe Newton, VSU Director of Information Technology, sees it as a form of education”

    yer i’m sure the students will get a lot of education in the prison showers from big bob.

  • PiSexy.org

    Start downloading and uploading linux/Ubuntu distros and public domain movies and see if you get lucky enough getting reported to the police, if you do, you can sue the uni and make enough money off’ them to move to a better school.

  • AnarchyNow

    And now the whole universe knows that the U$A is no democracy ever.

  • FuzzyX

    As said many times here it would be very welcomed to see these students use BT to download legal content.

    The only possible problem in doing so is that University computer use rules may well ban BT use. Not unlawful but still enough to get you suspended.

    Still then the students could stage a large protest for being punished for doing something fully legal. Also to fault a transmission protocol can be seen to be questionable. For example FTP and DCC were once popular methods of piracy and are still in use today.

    You can imagine them trying to ban FTP and the big fuss involved and BT is not that much different.

    I cant say I know how popular downloading BT media is to students but I do know how this entire situation came about.

    Each *borrowed* computer has a value based on its data bandwidth. Like networks in Japan and South Korea are very fast. But in many countries the number one desired computers are those on University networks.

    Having your own bot being able to send out 4000, 10000, 35000 KB/s is much desired by hackers and pirates alike.

    So Universities for many years have been the main target for getting a zombie in your own botnet. They are on the backbone of the Internet and very fast no matter your desired application.

    And sure they have gone through FTP, DCC and BT as piracy changes. So now they want to stop it even if the cause is usually more external than internal.

  • horsemeat

    If their network is that ultra crap to not know if certain p2p is legal or not then I would spoof another legit comp on the network takes its IP address and download something and get someone else in trouble for fun.

    Install a VPN myself because obviously spying on students must be in the agreement and continue on my merry way.

    But why don’t they just block all p2p if they can detect it? seems like they are trying to get themselves in the media, probably funded by the mpaa/riaa.

  • Anonymous

    1.download perfectly legal linux vis bittorent

    2.school harrasses you for using p2p and for a legal reason

    3.you get lawyer and do a multi-million dollar lawsuit and you will win

    4.school loses out and you are a millionaire

    this is now war.us against them

  • Dave

    1. The University is a contracted entity providing a student with academic credentials. The University is a service provider. You are paying them. I would suggest a student to ask the University to sign a non disclosure contract pertaining to your privacy.

    There are some 4th and 5th amendment issues here. Privacy and self incrimination and right for redress. If the University rats you out, then I think it is fair for a refund without recourse.

  • Joe Cop

    Cops don’t care, every cop I know has suff.

    Its RIAA and the like, lawyer mafia.

    “Pay us and we give you protection capice?”

  • WickVid.Com

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  • Jason

    Well, I hope they don’t teach any IT classes because the whole class could go to jail. File sharing and P2P are the first things that you learn, some people like to practice what they’re taught. http://hegrins.blogspot.com

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  • meh

    Police only enforce criminal law, not civil law. Copyright infringement is a civil law, usually reserved for civil court and judgments. Unless the industry pays the government to enforce their laws, violate users privacy, and strong-arm people.

    This is why if you’re having a problem with your landlord and he’s evicting you, he cant call the police. Its civil law, same as “Squatting” on an unrented property.

    Btw – I know cops who are into file sharing. And when David Rocci (isonews) was arrested and thrown in jail, he commented on the prison guards swapping burned dvds with each other. Its only a stigma according to the news and isolated incident, and anti-piracy groups who make a Business from it. Its all about the money :)

  • indy

    All-in-all, I would be upset that an institution was devoting time, effort and money to this type of activity. One more reason Higher Education is headed for a bubble like the mortgage lenders.

  • Norm

    The police won’t do anything. this is like your mom telling you as a kid that the police will come take you away for not keeping your room clean. The police do not enforce copyrights. They enforce criminal laws and there is no criminal law anywhere that gives the police the ability to arrest copyright infringers. I would love to hear what the police tell the first idiot that actually believes this is a police matter.

  • Anonymous

    Actually think this is a waste of money on the school’s part. Couldn;t these students be tracked by their logons? Why waste money buying additional software?

    Although the whole idea is rather silly to begin with. Have to agree with the commenters on that.

  • Lawk

    The best everyone can do is avoid studying at this university, or study there, but live outside, with a proper ISP connection. Leave their investment rot.

  • Chris

    Since the police can do nothing, the most effective thing to do is to give the copyright holders the student’s name and what was downloaded or shared. This, however, would most likely also violate the schools privacy policy for giving out student information.

  • Anonymous

    Georgia’s Valdosta State University is a crappy university. I don’t see the point spending money and time studying there since there is so many better universities elsewhere.

    Stupid people do stupid thing. Why am I not surprise that this university is doing this P2P crap?

    Do they still believe that slavery is a good thing?

    What a pack of retards and meanheads!

  • salem

    very useful information, but thanks anyway it would be better if a little more descriptive.

  • Local Anonymous the oxymoron state

    We all understand you could lose funding but you are trying to fix a small leak with a big fat ass government issued elephant. Eventually the elephant will have to shit and we all know you don’t want shit where you eat. But hey I thought we were talking about P2P here?

    Why is Valdosta University the only one applying this kind of fire and brimstone anti-p2p measure? No other college in Georgia is taking this route. So while being concerned on losing funding is a valid query it does not constitute your over the top anti-p2p efforts. Act on knowledge, not fear.

    How will this effect CS 4121 (Data Communications and Computer Networks I). It boldly states:

    On successful completion of this course, the student should be able to:
    · Popular network applications like HTTP, FTP, SMTP, DNS, P2P, etc

    Source: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:dZJY7JzeT4MJ:https://www.valdosta.edu/pla/resources/assessments/cs/CS4121/Evaluation%2520CS%25204121%25202008-04-21.doc+p2p+site:www.valdosta.edu

  • Dragon

    Who gives a shit. VSU is a shit university, anyone attending of their own free will deserves whatever the rat bastards do to them. I did a year in that half ass retard college. This is SSDD really. 3/4′s of the faculty and admin are oblivious morons, and the other 1/4th are searching desperately for a way to get out of the retard ranch and to a real school.

  • indigo196

    Sounds like the University IT and legal departments want to get taken to the cleaners in a defamation of character lawsuit… unless they are more discriminating in when they refer the issue to the police and apply discipline. Peer to Peer file sharing is not illegal. Peer to Peer file sharing of copyrighted material, under most circumstances, is illegal, but there are even cases there that could be legal. If the University takes the stance that students are guilty before proven guilty they would be in violation of a core tenant of the US Constitution.

  • Cool

    Actually, it’s the distribution and keeping a copy of a file that will make the act illegal! You can GIVE anyone a file you have, that you have legally purchased or obtained from someone else, who then delete’s their copy leaving and remaining only one original copy. Like giving a movie to someone after you have watched it… or geeeze, is that illegal now too? ridiculous! The legislation (please post references) transfers the policing of the file sharing cops to the network admin’s which to my knowledge was a major sticking point in the law in the first place and was NOT passed! but maybe I’m wrong! All it is comprised of is SCARED Universities and Legal departments wanted to be proactive and eliminate the possibility of legal action by the various organizations that police file sharing for the copyright owners – for a FEE… an industry unto itself! Enough already!!! Fair use is NOT dead, although they would have you believe otherwise!

  • Timmah

    Woooo lets bring MIRC back!!!!

  • Money

    Get your moneys worth at college

  • Siz

    A) Consult with a lawyer to make sure this actually works
    B) Use BitTorrent to grab something legal, making sure that you have never had infringing content on any of your computers (or your roommate’s)
    C) Get arrested
    D) Sue the university
    E) Profit?

  • Anonymous

    Whats crazy is using P2P is not illegal in anyway. Dling IP might be but the cops wont give a fuck about someone using P2P.

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  • Anonymous

    Why do you geeks think it’s okay to steal stuff? I hope someone sues the fuck out of all of you. Imagine if you created something and everyone stole it and gave you no credit. I can’t understand why you guys think it’s okay to steal intellectual property and give it away. You’re doing the artistic world a giant disservice.

  • Former Insider

    I used to work for the IT dept there while I was in school. VSU has a horrible reputation for data security. Just Google for it. Every few years someone gets a hold of everyone’s private data there. I’m willing to bet a coordinated effort would embarrass the school into stoping this silly mess (ACS:Law anyone?)
    They still haven’t changed some admin passwords from years ago… I know I just visited the campus and they still worked.

    http://www.scmagazineus.com/valdosta-state-university-server-improperly-accessed/article/164259/

    http://torrentfreak.com/acslaw-anti-piracy-law-firm-torn-apart-by-leaked-emails-100925/

    Note for Joe,
    I always liked you but i’m sorry, this is ridiculous. You just may have well as put up a big sign saying “hack me”.

  • Mike

    Download Big Buck Bunny in 1080p with 10 different torrents, into 10 different folders.
    Delete copies when finished.
    Seed one copy to infinity.

    Ask authorities to prove what I was downloading illegally.

    Once they realise not everyone is prosecutable, they stop trying.

  • Vishbakharamha

    So, using World of Warcraft is an offense, too? It uses the bittorrent protocol for transferring game patches.

  • momoola

    @158 (Anonymous)

    What is being stolen? Certainly not the media itself as ‘pirates’ merely copy the data and no one is being deprived of the media.

    So, do you believe that “potential profit” is being ‘stolen’? If so, that’s illogical. For one thing, basic logic states that for you to be able to steal something, it must first exist. Potential profit does not exist.

    However, if you could ‘steal’ profit that others could, potentially, have had, everyone in existence would be ‘guilty’ of doing so. You ‘steal’ potential profit merely by not giving someone your money or interfering with someones flow of profits. For instance, if you were to not buy a product from a store, you have just ‘stolen’ potential profit from the store. If you had bought it, the store would have been better off (as they would have had more money), and using the logic of those who use the potential profit argument, that means that, like pirates, you have harmed someone by not giving them your money. Whether or not the pirate copied data is irrelevant because that doesn’t do any harm by itself.

    ‘Piracy’ also can’t be compared to the act of forcing someone to complete a physical job and then not paying them because in those scenarios, you have wasted the persons time. Pirates use their own time and resources to copy the data.

    So, what is being ‘stolen’ here?

  • Anonymous

    #158 = troll

    YOU CAN’T STOP THE INTERWEBZ

  • Derc

    Wrong or right .. sorry college kids. I have my own to think about so I have to add the iblocklists of schools now to my peerguardian. This shit needs resolved with a new protocol or app.

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  • In Netherlands

    My uni had a FTP from which you could download movies, software and sometimes pr0nz. :)

  • Techy

    Awesome! Download something perfectly legit, wait till it gets reported, then take legal action against VSU for hindering your education, false accusation, stress and what ever else one feels to throw at them. Even better get everyone at the campus to download ubuntu. Give em a real nice dilemma to deal with. Should make a nice form of education for VSU.

  • Daemon_ZOGG

    For Linux users, Use your home PC as a remote Xorg application server over SSH. Use the ssh cmd to execute the remote Xapp. The P2P app remotely runs on your home PC. When the dl is complete, ftp or scp the file to your Dorm PC. It’s easier than you think. No VPN box required. I would recomend a strong firewall passphrase for your home PC. ;D Cheers

  • Chris P

    #5 is right. Also, remind me never to go to that university. God forbid I share ubuntu, eclipse, and the yes men on their servers.

  • Tom

    Sweet, I hope they go broke from having no more students.

  • Anonymoose

    Best Idea Ever:

    Have a whole team of torrenters download and seed infinite versions of an open source Linux distro.

    From what the article says, the university lacks the ability to distinguish between legal and grey-area P2P.

    Then watch as the police get a flood of injunctions against teenagers downloading linux.

  • JD

    No, this will just tick off law enforcement, because this IS an abuse of the justice system.

    P2P is not illegal. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the police arrest the leaders of the university over this abuse.

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  • James

    It’s amazing that such idiots could somehow be in control of a college.

    I expect a flood of lawsuits against the school, all or most of which will be won.

    Also, I just bought a ski mask- can someone point me towards the nearest police station so I can turn myself in as a potential burglar?

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  • mrvertigo27

    Vidalia on windows Tor on linux

  • mrvertigo27

    ya know im the type of guy that would have one machine that made massive LEGAL use of p2p networks just as a way to make a point.

  • CTLz

    Seedbox and FTP, or use torrific.com free unlimited bandwidth, and shows as a normal HTTP download.

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  • VSUHATER

    Valdosta is/has always been a very ignorant, backwards, and racist hick-town. Law enforcement outnumber the citizens and it’s biggest cash-cow is arrests, arrests, and more arrests. Now they are reaching into there own university system to prey on college kids for more cash. SAD AND RETARDED INDEED!!!

  • ustice

    Oh, how wonderful! I wish that I went to school there. I would be downloading a ton of free and legal content, and just wait for the police to show up. I’d be sure have a lawyer ready to sue their pants off (or at least make them pay for my education)

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  • Headshaker

    University decries World of Warcraft to be evil file sharing application and notifies police!

    Police response: Just a sec – Cataclysm’s downloading.

  • KnowsSomething

    Most of the comments here (and the article itself) assumes the crime is downloading. It isn’t. The crime is sharing what’s been downloaded. VSU undoubtedly receives DMCA complaints from the rights holders, and they are required to follow-up on those complaints.

    For all those who claim that no crime is being committed – well, you’re misinformed – or you’re idiots.

  • Contest

    Whoevers the first to install and run p2p software on the Dean’s personal computer wins.

  • University Dean

    I can haz pr0n torrentz?

  • Develyn

    Come on people! Read the article. For the idiot who says he smells a lawsuit, please notice that it’s a directive from the federal government. If they don’t do it, the school could lose federal funding. Anyway, it’s not the torrent that’s the problem, but the copyright infringement. So would those people who are being intentionally obtuse (and you know who you are), please pay attention and stop being the lemmings and troglodytes you normally are.

  • Spooner

    Your article is incorrect. The P2P spotting is done by the security department actually noticing the random connections. They then have someone go and actually talk to the person, be it a university police officer or an IT staff member. They also sometimes just shut down the connection on the machine until it reboots.

    The only change, and the software they probably reference, is just that the school recently switched to Active Directory, with each student having their own login. With the exception of a few public machines, it is possible to track the user login along with the p2p usage pattern.

    The security department is pretty good in noticing legitimate versus illegitimate tracking. This is a very knee-jerk reaction to the fact that now they can tie that actual usage into a student. It’s not necessarily a bad thing since you agree to, you know, not break the laws when you become a student, staff, or faculty of the school.

  • VSU Alumni

    The article was poorly researched, sensationalist and misinformed. It has been taken off the student newspaper’s website. An official correction will be published in the next issue of the Spectator.

  • VSU Alumnus

    From another alumnus:

    As an alumnus of Valdosta State University, I emailed them with my concern over this policy. They immediately responded that the student paper had misunderstood them, and they have no intention of turning information over to police and have not even settled on a P2P policy.

    Here is the quote from the reply from Joe Newton:

    “The Spectator article was, unfortunately, factually in error. While our process is not yet defined, we currently do not hand over students to the Police nor have we purchased software to hunt them down and I cannot foresee that we would ever do so. I hope to have a correction made as soon as possible.”

  • Will

    Meahahah BS!

    Police have more important shit to deal with than pirates!

    In fact, if you try to report a pirate at my local city police station not only will you be laughed at you will be charged $237.50 for wasting the Polices’ time. :)

    And no you can not reduce it prior to court. And yes you have to show up! If you don’t show up a warrant will be signed by the judge for 30 days in jail for comptent of court.

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  • GP

    This is a totally bogus story. It should be removed pronto.

  • boss

    LOL fuck your tard country, USA is a stupid police state, we don’t give a fuck about your laws. Fuck ur own nation with ur tard antipiracy laws and software patents you jew motherfuckers leave the EU nations the fuck alone.

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  • Anonymous

    A handful of old wifi routers that are not plugged into the net and only share between individual computers and you are done. Add a few seedboxes and it is business as usual.

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