US: Megaupload’s Hosting Company Might be Sued Next

Ernesto
April 15, 2012
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At a federal court hearing where several parties hoped to get a clear answer on the fate of Megaupload’s user data, the US Government’s attorney slammed hosting company Carpathia. The US says the hosting provider may be partly responsible for the copyright infringements that occurred through Megaupload and said Carpathia may even become the target of a civil lawsuit.

Nearly three months after the Megaupload raids and arrests, 1,103 servers hosted at Carpathia are gathering dust.

While the US Government won’t mind if the servers are destroyed, Megaupload, the EFF and even the MPAA all argued that would be a bad idea because they contain critical evidence and irreplaceable user data.

Hosting company Carpathia, on the other hand, said it can’t bear the costs of $9,000 a day indefinitely. So the company called for a meeting where they asked Judge O’Grady to come up with a solution. That hearing was held on Friday and proved to be quite interesting.

While Carpathia hoped the hearing would bring relief, in the event the company was warned that it too might become a target for litigation.

As reported by CNET, Judge O’Grady was sympathetic to the hosting company’s call for help, but the attorney representing the US Government wasn’t. The attorney stated that Carpathia made $35 million from Megaupload and insinuated that the company might not be as neutral as it claims to be.

The lawyer further said that Megaupload’s host may be partly responsible for the copyright infringements that occurred through the cyberlocker, and added that the host itself could become the target of a civil lawsuit.

The attorney didn’t substantiate the alleged wrongdoings of Carpathia and neither did he identify the potential source of a civil suit.

One possible party that could go after the hosting company is the MPAA. The movie industry group previously said they want the data to be preserved for potential civil cases against Megaupload-affiliated entities. However, during the hearing on Friday they were no longer interested in keeping the data intact, so this seems unlikely.

Neither of the parties involved was willing to comment on the claims made by the US attorney, but it’s clear that the US Government thinks Carpathia is not totally innocent.

After hearing the various arguments, Judge O’Grady decided that the parties involved should get back together to find a suitable solution. This was one of the suggestions made by the Megaupload legal team, but with so many different interests at stake it will prove to be a challenging endeavor.

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FUCK THE MAFIAA, VOTE PIRATE PARTY!
- Anonymous
  
  help start one in the USA and you’d see it voted for quickly
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  - Guest
    
    Technically, one already exists, but it sucks massive balls. They haven’t run any candidates, and refuse (or are unable to find people) to run as independents in the states they are not registered in. Voting for them right now would be a massive waste of time.
    - SS7
      
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      Foget about justice , freedom , human rights , USA and his allies will never respect them , they just foolish people to belive to keep people under control to avoid revolutions
      Now they can do what they want with everyone , they can acuse , prosecute , invade, kill and destroy , just mass people can fight and destroy this parasites of humanity becouse nobody can kill millions and millions people of this planet , they just can try like Hitler, Stalin etc but will ending up like them , all will fail
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Why don’t we sue the car manufactures like Toyota. A Camry can be used in a bank robbery, so Toyota is responsible for it. Unless Toyota can monitor all their vehicles, they should be held responsible for the bank robbery.
- TheS4ndm4n
  
  Find a judge that still thinks theres actual horses under the hood of those cars, and you will have a good shot.
  
  Finding one of those in this day and age may prove difficult. But finding a judge who has no clue on how the internet works wont be.
  - Throwa01
    
    That’s the scary truth right there.
  - http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja
    
    The fact that the US Attorney simply ignores safe harbors, everything that’s written into law about 3rd party liability, the US Constitution AND human rights all in one go in this day and age makes me believe that judges (and whoever) will simply tell that there are horses under the hood if there’s enough money involved. Regardless of day and age.
    - http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell
      
      Agreed. I’m really beginning to think that, at least, the prosecutors are extremely corrupt in the United States.
- http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UJ4XRIA3A3E6MYGK755EGWLN4Q Dani A
  
  This is going to be laughed out of court so hard.
  
  Unless of course they are corrupt enough to lean on the judge.
  I love my country, I hate the people who live in my country (as a rule, there are exceptions.) I hate the people who run this country, with VERY few exceptions. And I truly hate our international policy. We need to get our selves out of the rest of the world.. how can we even imagine to fix the worlds problems when we cannot even fix our own at home.
  - Nope
    
    What problem has America solved exactly?
    
    America causes problems, and THAT is it. I WISH America would adopt an isolationist policy so they’d fuck off and leave the rest of the sane world alone.
    - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_UJ4XRIA3A3E6MYGK755EGWLN4Q Dani A
      
      never said they solved any problems, only that they stick their nose in to other countries business.
- Caladol1
  
  The MPAA is responsible for all the crimes, they create censorship laws to protect dangerous criminals, and they teach common folk to be criminals.
  
  off with their heads!!!
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Anon

So, nothing really happened. The USA try’s to blow smoke up Carpathia’s butt but that’s about it.
http://www.facebook.com/ukbeast Aaron Holmes

Takes the piss :X
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1313241278 Paul Krueger

Why not find the people who supply the power to Carpathia and charge them with facilitating copyright infringements as well. I wonder who Carpathia banks with, surely they must be involved in money laundering the results of crime as well!
- Afasdf
  
  You forgot to mention the people that provide the oil to make the electricity. But we all know they are untouchable…
  
  HAHA, what a circus. Is this your government? This is the best you can come up with to run your country? HAHA. USA; where they take clowns seriously.
  - Neurad
    
    And the US government too… the perceived taxes on Carpathia, so they made indirect profit from copyright infringement!
    
    Ridiculous…
  - Puff
    
    You madafaka don’t you dare to compare the USA with the clown!!!!
    In fact, the USA is even worse than the clown. It is a disgrace. No! Seriously!
    - Anonymous
      
      We know you’re serious, only a complete retard would believe otherwise.
http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

The US government has lost the plot completely if they honestly believe the server provider can be implicated for CopyWrong Infringement. That’s just nuts.

This threat is clearly a vindictive step to try and scare Carpathia after they refused the government’s notion that all of Megaupload’s data could be deleted prior to any Court hearing. This action is so typical of the schoolyard bully who is now running scared because they know they’re in the wrong and are going to lose.

But unlike the US and NZ authorities, Carpathia has acted honestly and with genuine integrity.
- Anonymous
  
  You are quite right. Carpathia was simply hosting a cloud storage service that followed DMCA law as millions of take-down notices prove. Further more all the MegaUpload data is encrypted and Carpathia has no access to it.
  
  Trying to convict Carpathia of some wrong-doing is nothing more than a sad joke.
  - Fantastic
    
    Its a scare tactic nothing more. They are trying to muscle an innocent company that did its job by both the moral and legal rule to give up their morals and let the government/mafiaa (no different that this point) have data they have no business getting into. They need to tell the government were to stick it and throw their lot with Dotcom and bring down this beast for the good of the US to uproot those Hollywood owned scum and send them packing.
  - Anonymous
    
    They have no intention of suing Carpathis, this is nothing more than an attempt to intimidate them into deleting evidence that Dotcom needs for his defence.
    They are obviously desperate for this to happen which convinces me they know they’re going to lose.
- RIAAtarded
  
  Not that i disagree with you in the slightest here but the sad fact is they shouldn’t have been able to implicate megauploads either and yet they did so it is such a stretch for them to then turn around and try the same on Carpathia? I find it all appalling that they are allowed to assess third party liability in the first place. Anyone running servers knows is it impossible to police every aspect of your network and there is no way to ascertain what users have a legal right to and what they don’t. All you can do is address the issues as they arise which is what was happening. All this despite the rights holder abusing the systems set in place and taking down things they had no legal right to. Right holders need to be put in their place and fast. I don’t agree with them chasing pirates unless it is piracy for profit and I sure as hell don’t think they should be trying to assess third party liability on infrastructure providers. Would be like me sueing the government because they maintain the roads drunk driver was on when he clipped my car. How about I sue the automaker as well they must have some responsibility in how their vehicles are used. Maybe sue the liquor store that sold him the booze… How does the DOJ and court system not see the lunacy in this.. Justice is suppose to be blind not deaf and stupid.
- Average_Joe
  
  Yes, I liked. Bully running is good way to say what goes here.
Dan

Yeah, and who’s next? The backbone provider? …. at some point, they’ll think that it was all the brain-child of the evil world wide web inventor Tim Berners-Lee. Then, they’ll get a brain-gasm and sue themselves for ever thinking of creating something like the ARPANET. Or, maybe not. Maybe they’ll sue the poor scientists who did so under orders of the US government.

There’s only one thing I can say: we wouldn’ have an Internet today, if each and every separate legal entity involved in connecting some computer to the Net would need to monitor their data transfer. I don’t even think that would be possible, technically or economically, today.

So in the end, it should be clear to most rational people that the US government is regularly taking it up the a** by media rights holders and their groups and lobbyists. Is that really something that needs to be supported even more?
- Anon1
  
  You’re wrong on one point only: It’s the brain child of Al Gore.
  - Blackbeard
    
    Oh for… how many times will people have to be told this?
    
    Tim Berners-Lee invented a way to network various remote computers together, the system now known as the World Wide Web.
    
    Al Gore ‘created’ the internet, in the sense that he made it what it is today. By using Berners-Lees system in a different way, for a different purpose. He made it commercial and shot its advancement forward.
    
    Al Gore did wonders for the net, but he couldn’t have done anything without the system invented by Berners-Lee.
    - Guest
      
      Not sure if doesn’t get the joke, or trolling on a whole different level.
Toenail

Up next: US government attorneys say, “it would be awful if something happened to your wife and kids…”
Mark

All American citizens have to do is riot against the government. Why won’t they. All Americans seem to care is about themselves and their ipods and useless materialistic junk. Please, riot against the government.
- Anon
  
  Americans are just stupid. Im pretty sure that most of them don’t know where Iraq and Afghanistan are, even if they are at war there.
  They will never move their asses till their governements said “we will take your money in your pocket to pay our debt” , and I even doubt they will.
  - http://www.facebook.com/orphicdragon Trisha Lynn Dragon
    
    Yeah douche. The problem is stupid American’s. Has nothing to do with all you other retard motherfuckers not doing a fucking thing to get your own countries off our cock.
    
    I love how you assholes are all smug and superior…as your own leadership deep throats whatever we offer you. America can’t do a fucking thing in other countries without collusion and consent. So…what does that say about you assholes?
    
    You keep playing pretend kiddo. When everything you have is belong to the American Government, you can tell us all snotty and superior again about how much better, smarter and stronger you are.
    
    Fortunately the people with an IQ out of the 50′s know full well this government isn’t accurately representing it’s people. For every asshole bitching about American’s there are 5 more ready and willing to stand with us. Thank God, Cthulhu and the FSM for that.
    - Huddel
      
      “America can’t do a fucking thing in other countries without collusion and consent.”
      
      Here’s the problem, they’ve done it without collusion and consent. Half of latin america was thrown into military dictatorships between the 1960-to-1990, all backed by – when not directly implanted by – the US government, as shown the CIA files that became unclassified at the course of the last 50 years.
      
      The US government is using back handed tactics against foreing countries and it’s own population even since the start of the cold war and haven’t noticed that is not a good idea to continue with them now that it has ended.
      
      And sorry, the truth is that the average american is clueless about politics winthin the US and outside of it, thanks to the great educational screwup of the ’80s who turned the US’s educational system from a tool to educate citzens into a tool to teach people a profession. You can thank Reagan for that.
    - 7seven85
      
      You again ? OMG Each time you reply to a post you dont like, you are always saying “douche” “retard” “kiddo” “motherfucker” etc.
      
      If you Americans arent THAT stupid, you should start to add more words in your vocabulary, DOUCHE.
    - Anon
      
      get back to the kitchen bitch !!!11!!!
    - SS7
      
      Trisha Lynn Dragon do you know your country history ? really ?
      Do you know what your country deserve for what doing until now on this planet ?
      I will tell you , your country deserve to be tottaly erased phisically and also from history or any other book
      Your stupid peoples vote wrong , your peoples ex uk criminals and prisoniers at begining of USA kill , take lands and destroy native americans , then put them in reservations like animals , your brainwashed peoples invade and kill inocent people from other countries for money , to get natural resources , your country is the biggest liar and hypocrite of the world , your fat and very stupid arrogant greedy people stay lazy, watch shit on tv eat junk food always and never doing something good , just mess this wolrd with shit , you waiste everything becouse your greed etc etc , do you think that is right ? do you think other people dont see what your shit country doing ?
      They see and anger growing day by day ,more and more people hate USA ,
      Do you think these people will foget what doing USA , how do you think will ending up that ?
      In one day your country will be destroyed , your fat dtupid greedy people will be killed becouse people fom around the wolrd are pissed off with your shit USA !
    - Anonymous
      
      Right, let’s get one thing clear. Just as “you” do not represent the typical trailertrash wannabe confederate going “My country right or wrong”, “We” aren’t “eurotrash”.
      
      We’re in the same boat here. Go after the trolls individually, please. Don’t just drop to that level yourself.
      
      After that, although I can agree that our european politicians ought to stop dropping their pants at command from overseas, I must point out that the US government usually gives them the choice of putting out voluntarily or getting bent over with force.
  - Diarrhea Splatter
    
    No Shit, Anon-Sherlock.
  - Mimsicjy
    
    And you’re just the moronic fool, for putting ALL Americans citizens together and calling them stupid because of the actions of a select few.
    
    Same goes for everyone who thinks like you.
    
    P.S: not an American here.
    Just a guy with common sense.
- Anonymous
  
  Because the US government in any riot situation these days can invoke “enemy combatant” status on whoever they like?
  
  Let’s face it, standing on the line as a protester, let alone as a rioter in a US city these days is a VERY risky business. We’re talking mace and tasers only as the very first resort here.
ZR

Someone should really pull the plug on the financial support for all these petty lawsuits. Doesn’t the US government have BIGGER problems? Like… y’know, recession, med care, bringing soldiers home, that sort of things? Talk about screwed up priorities, lol.
- http://www.facebook.com/orphicdragon Trisha Lynn Dragon
  
  Eh, it’s SOP here in America.
  
  Politician: Oh, fuckity fuck. We fucked that up royal didn’t we..
  
  Other Politician: Yeaaaaah basically.
  
  Politician: Well what the fuck do we do now? How do we fix this??
  
  Other Politician: AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! *gasp for breath* AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHA!!! Fix it?! Fuck that shit. Have somebody wipe their ass with a photo of Mohammed and post that shit on youtube. Nobody will even mention this shit again. Where’d that blonde hooker with all the blow go??
  
  I love this country, it’s worth fixing. I think that if folks from OTHER countries would start laying on their own governments to get off Uncle Sam’s cock we could force the douche canoe’s at the top to do their fucking appointed job and see to our own fucking business. Well, thats the dream anyway.
  - Huddel
    
    They’re trying, sadly the US government loves to hold them on a short leash and won’t let them go away, even if they have to fuck their own country to do so.
  - Anon
    
    Kitchens that way >>>>>>>>>
  - Anonymous
    
    Yea, well…basically, no. Unfortunately no. As much as I despise the weak-livered cumstains currently incumbent in Swedish politics there will be no easy way of dislodging Uncle Sam’s third leg from their recta, even with a crowbar and a blowtorch – not while Uncle Sam keeps hanging overt threats over them couched in diplomatic and not-so-diplomatic terms.
    
    The various batches of leaked diplomatic mail courtesy of wikileaks more or less showed what the US modus operandi is – demanding of a state that they should implement some form of legislation or other and then threaten with something which WILL cost the state in question far too much for the various politicians in office to survive with an intact career.
    
    Although I agree with much of your reasoning I must humbly suggest that when the big 200-lb bully with the black belt is going after 100-lb pencilnecks on the schoolyard, you start blaming the pencilnecks for bending over just a bit too easily. Although I do think our politicians need more spine I’m not going to suggest to any man that he stops sucking cock in order to get himself crucified instead.
    
    You want to fix the US, your problem starts right there. At home. With your own politicians who have the run of the henhouse because they face no opposition from the only ones they have reason to fear. You.
    
    For us europeans we have a similar problem. Both over here and in the US where you live the same solution applies. Ride these bums out of office on a rail. After that I don’t really care whether your ex-body politic still has it’s dick stuck in the wet slobbery mouth of my ex-body politic as long as they carry on their business where it impacts no one else, least of all you or me.
Anon

This will lead to the departure of ALL the cloud services hosted in United States. We welcome everybody overseas !
- Anon
  
  Amen brother Anon
  
  Its not like we need Amerifags (or namefags either by the way ) .
  When will you yanks sort your own country out n leave the rest of us alone ?
  
  We don’t need you or your stinking laws !!!
  - FUCK
    
    are you talking to yourself? lol
  - StevO
    
    Its pretty sad that people from all over the world stick a wedge between cultures, even at this level. I thought we were all united over this stuff but I see Americans are getting the blame.
    - http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PXX4S66KOUIGIKTTIMV3CBGO7Y Colin
      
      As per the 1%’s master plan, far too many people blame ‘the Americans’ for the things their government does. Americans are no more or less stupid than anyone else. However, since at least the 1950s mainstream media have deliberately failed to inform them of what is going on – especially beyond their borders.
      So, Americans are not stupid, but they are, in general, ignorant. Because if they all knew what was really happening in Washington (and many other places) they would never have let this sorry corporate state hijack their democracy.
  - Blackbeard
    
    /b/ —–>
NewClear

We need the economy to improve. With the MAFIAA sueing perfectly legitimate business, that will just make it worse. Nobody who works for any government has a brain.
- http://www.facebook.com/orphicdragon Trisha Lynn Dragon
  
  Untrue. The problem is those with brains who chose public service for a grander purpose won’t sell out. No selling out, you don’t get to a position that allows you to make any sort of discernable or useful changes.
  
  Much like wealth, there are a small handful of greedy useless shit stains and they wield more power than the masses could ever even hope for.
  - Anon
    
    You still here ? I want bacon ….. (,”)
Sailingawayfromhere

I left and I’m not going back. The US is too powerful and if an individual wants to have any sort of peace of mind when practicing their right to civil liberty they will have to do it outside the boundaries of the US legal system. BTW what was Mega thinking? It seems rather obvious to me that using a hosting provider with ties to the US was asking for trouble. They could have used a hosting company in any number of countries that would have sheltered them from this kind of abuse. I wish I could post a big middle finger to the US but it would probably not get posted.
- FinalApokylypse
  
  Is that really a neccessary step though. They thought they would not get screwed over as they believed they were following the law to the letter and were safe from such attacks. But really it would have made no difference. Unless the other country that was chosen to host denied the US what they wanted it would have been the same story. NZ chose to follow the FBI after all.
- Diarrhea Splatter
  
  You just made baby jesus cry motherfucker.
Krow

All I know is that if I need hosting provided by a third party, I’m gonna use a place that has been wronged by the Mafiaa.
Guest

This is reading a lot like the US government going, “Okay, so we won’t demand that you delete all your information; we’ll sue you instead!”

The US government is really going out of its way to look like an entitled, whiny douche in this supposed slamdunk of a case.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Dilly/1624894683 Don Dilly

The threat of legal action seems more a case of bullying to try and get them to destroy the megaupload data before users are granted access or Kim dotcom found not guilty
http://www.facebook.com/prunn Bruno Lévesque

Delete the evidence asap, case solved!
here a hint: rm -rf /*
- Guest
  
  That’s what US wants: to delete the salvation of Megaupload.
Tikop

You are quite right. Carpathia was simply hosting a cloud storage service that followed DMCA law as millions of take-down notices prove. Further more all the MegaUpload data is encrypted and Carpathia has no access to it.

Trying to convict Carpathia of some wrong-doing is nothing more than a sad joke.
townie2

oh FFS, this is getting totally ridiculous! why don’t they sue themselves next, their the one that created and passed the faulty law.
KimJongDotcom

Kim Jong Un v, Kim Dotcom

Failed Missle Launch v. Failed Music Launch
- Ohfew
  
  Should we count the number of times the US FAIL their rockets launch too?
http://www.facebook.com/MikeyCarter1974 Michael Carter

“As reported by CNET, Judge O’Grady was sympathetic to the hosting company’s call for help, but the attorney representing the US Government wasn’t. The attorney stated that Carpathia made $35 million from Megaupload and insinuated that the company might not be as neutral as it claims to be.”

This line caught my eye… I hope they prove that Carpathia is guilty… because didn’t the government collect taxes on that $35 million?
Anon

Would this be the time for Carparthia to start up a business in Europe and slowly migrating to there? US doesn’t seem so attractive for doing business anymore. I’m sure a lot of other people are thinking this too.
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http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002639684444 Ryan Smith

The same company hosting Spotify may be targeted next?

How many degrees away from the user to they want to point the finger?
Infringing user > megaupload > Carpathia hosting > US Gov’t is responsible for allowing these services to operate as well.

I have a solution to end all of this confusion. All infringement is caused by Kevin Bacon.
http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PXX4S66KOUIGIKTTIMV3CBGO7Y Colin

Time for Kim Dotcom to get an injunction forbidding Carpathia from deleting the date?…
Pussies

U.S. government doesn’t want to take responsibility for its actions because it knows it has fucked up. They’re trying to pass all the problems they’ve caused on to others because they can’t face up to what they’ve done.
Diarrhea Splatter

It’s called blackmail.
Iyh

Next: The Power Line Company Who Supplied The Electricity Might be Sued Next

your turn
foff

I would like to know how it is costing Carpathia 9k a day. Who is going fill all those server racks that quickly. In fact if I was Carpathia I would seriously consider moving over seas. The US government attorney is blowing hot air out his hole, there is no chance carpathia could be held liable. On the bright side if cyberlockers and hosters are mostly liable then individual uploaders bear almost no liability. I wonder when the Riaa will start to sue isp’s for allowing torrent traffic. The government after all appears to to saying fuck you to the safe harbors.,
- MadAsASnake
  
  Depreciation on the IT gear and rental costs on the building would probably see to a lot of that…
aha

Hi, do you want to live, work and study in the US?
- Timo
  
  Nice joke, who will want that anymore? Why do I have to come, *even as a guest* to the new USFC* ? Even with some not-so-good laws in Europe, it has more freedom and no police scanners on every stupid building. If you remember, the “terrorists” target Europe as well.
  
  *US Fascist Corp. ?
  - Lemon
    
    Totally agree with you.. Last time US is a heaven for a lot of foreigners.. but now…
    - Bb
      
      A loving couple just found themselves a bargain, a place they called home… little did they know… *spoilers* it’s something like right out of a horror movie :D
Andrew Lee

What a goddamn sham I realize they’re pissed because Carpathia would not bend over and take it. Still there is no way it would ever hold any water once in court not to mention it would be suicide for the judges career.

There would only be one reason to actually take this to court.

1. TO COST THE CARPATHIA MORE MONEY
Not for a actual reason based on a wrong doing.

The fucking idiots doing this PLEASE do us a favor and go climb the highest thing you can find then jump off.

Taking cases to court that have no actual ground to stand on is fucking wrong. They should have to pay 100% court cost and be fined for time wasted.

Do like me stop buying,watching,renting, and most of all talking about their products. It’s us the consumer that makes this ridiculous news possible. No money from us = no money to bribe. If we don’t stand up against it they will get away with it. It’s pretty easy to say yes when there is nobody around to say no.
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Anonymous

Not too complicated. Just about what we might expect.

Written accurately; the leading headline reads, “In a fit of helpless frustration, U.S. prosecutor Accuses Carpathia of being complicit in Mega Crimes. Threatens, Carpathia might be next!”

Scary, yes! Unexpected? No.

After all, when we think about a “free” Internet, are we simultaneously thinking about the National Security of the United States or its allies in the context of that “free” internet? When we think of that “free” internet and all that Intellectual creative output that should flow “freely” within it, are we asking simultaneously what that “means” in a world where the accumulated legacy of esoteric skills and techniques represent the preponderance of wealth and military and political power?

Is that a loud, “Could care less,” that we hear? TuTd, “What does all this have to with Carpathia or MegaUpload?”

Perhaps we might as well ask what it has to do with SOPA,and PIPA and ACTA and Three strikes, and Six Strikes, and CISPA……..ALL expressions of the vast scale of frustration and anger and and fear in the western democratic governments that this modern “FREE” Internet that we so value is perhaps NOT compatible with the rule of law, national security, or economic progress.

Three observations and one conclusion:

First: the first worst thing ever to happen to Intellectual property took place just before and right after the turn of the twentieth century when corporations were given “legal standing” with all the rights of Human Beings and were allowed to be present in the legislatures with their wealth in the making of “new” law.

Second: the second worst thing ever to happen to Intellectual Property occurred between the begining of the twentieth century and today as those corporations used their wealth and legal standing to pass the Copyright Laws and make themselves “owners” and custodians of Intellectual Property in perpetuity.

Third: the third worst thing ever to happen to Intellectual property has not happened yet; might or might not be preventable; but, will be decided quickly within the the next two to five years; and is that Western Democratic governments, unable tp resolve the fungibility of Intellectual Property in the digital domain, are clinging to copyright law and its corporate oligarchies as coextensive with the imperatve of State Security; and are therefore deemphasizing the primacy of constitutional and civil constraints.

Conclusion: Carpatia was told, “You’re Next!”

But, in the most urgent sense, we are all, “Next.” Make no mistake, our most challenging adversaries might not be dismissible as the “liars” or the “morons” or the “corrupt. They might be simply just asking different questions in the context of different priorities and therefore reaching different conclusions. We might never be more self-deceived than when we fail to hear and adress their concerns.
Anonymous

I think their energy supplier might be also to blame … those servers needed electricity, am i right or not? Who profited from that? He … put them in jail all and turn that TV on!
- Guest
  
  Ohh,,, and government to blame as well! After all ISP and energy company operated on their area. So let’s sue USA government :D
MadAsASnake

Not quite sure how Carparthia could be liable, but I’m sure the US could send in 70 odd armed cops to confiscate everything. I’m sure they could find something trivial to charge them with. Just like every other business of any size. I think someone needs to hammer in the concept of Justice into the DOJ – I suspect it’ll need a big hammer.
Lemon

I am not sure what the US government is doing now.. are they so free? We need them to improve the country economy!!
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Guest

F…g MAFIAA criminals have gone mad. It’s they are who is one of the worst threats to society. Bunch of eParasites who wants to dictate to the world their crappy and outdated business model is way to go. Hey, eParasites, this WILL NOT WORK: nobody needs inconvenient stuff at horrible prices. Can’t you finally get it? Even if you will put death penalty, you will not force people to buy inconvenient DRMed crap at awful prices. Even retard would not agree to such a obviously bad deal. That’s the only reason why piracy still not defeated.
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Sjococo

Well, what I read is that the attorney of the government does not want to indict Carpathia. So, Carpathia is relatively safe. Because the government seized the servers, it is the government who should pay Carpathia’s and Leaseweb’s expenses.

MPAA and RIAA are private parties and they can start civil lawsuits if Carpathia is not complying to DMCA concerning MU data, which is not accessable right now. If Carpathia did comply to DMCA in the past, MPAA and RIAA do have a problem. As a private party they cannot get access to the servers to gather the needed evidence now or in the future. Seized property can only be retuned to rightful owners, not third parties.
- MadAsASnake
  
  Not sure what you are on about. Carpathia supplies hosting and as the Mega stuff is encrypted cannot know what it is – the content is Mega’s responsibility if anyones. Why should Carpathia be concerned over whether DOJ will prosecute them? They have done literally nothing wrong here. The DOJ is responsible for bringing criminal actions that upholdrule of law. What law have Carpathia broken? MPAA blather is not law. MPAA and RIAA are free to sue whoever they like for whatever they like. They would be laughed out of court on this one.
Anonymous

the best way to stop the US from taking over the world and the Internet is to ban them from everywhere else! tell them to ‘go it alone’. they continuously moan about what everyone else is doing, continuously moan about what everyone else is taking from them, while not doing anything to prevent ‘their stuff’ from being taken in the first place, but never think twice about taking whatever they want from anywhere! they think they have the right to come and go as they please and to do whatever the hell they like, where they like, when they like! i mean, what have they got now that isn’t available somewhere else? i can sure live without Hollywood movies or US music.

this Carpathia thing is only happening because the US has made complete pricks of themselves over the whole Mega incident and now made it worse by trying to prevent Mega/Kim etc from having good legal representation. they’re scared that the court will rule in favour of keeping the data, as it should, because they dont want Mega to have any fair defense. this is their way trying to move the goal posts and by threatening Carpathia they think that they will be more concerned about their own plight rather than whether the Mega servers (and evidence) should be destroyed or who should pay to keep them running. the US is losing, both the case and face in the eyes of the world.

what the US has been doing over the domain name seizures and the influence over PIPA, SOPA, ACTA, TPP and now CISPA has not been met well by the EU. the way they threaten countries that dont do what the US wants is being greatly frowned upon. perhaps the best option is to lock themselves away like China and N Korea. let’s face it, they are becoming more like these countries every day! shame they are allowing fear to influence all they do, when the biggest thing to fear is fear itself!
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Guest

US: i think we found a other way to make the world hate us more …
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Anonymous

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Carpathia shall sue the US gov for getting paid for the server costs they are now stuck with because of the outrageous and illegal action of the white house and of the justice department. The MegaUpload users shall sue the US government to retrieve their personal data.

Tim Dotcom shall sue the NZ government for doing the dead of a foreign power against the interest of the citizen. There is a law for that in NZ.
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Andycapp

America is on the brink of collapse like many other great powers before them, When corruption becomes law no country can survive and with all the other mistakes America has made over the last 50 years it is just impossible for there empire not to fail.
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Anonymous

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Curtis Watson

What is next? They start suing the utility companies for providing electricity to the buildings? Or the computer hardware manufacturers for providing the technology that made this all possible? Holly crap this is ridiculous!
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