uTorrent Makers Distance Themselves From Piracy

Ernesto
December 19, 2012
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BitTorrent Inc., the company behind the popular file-sharing clients uTorrent and BitTorrent, is distancing itself from online piracy. BitTorrent Inc. emphasizes that their software has a wide range of legal uses and that the company doesn’t support those who use their tools to pirate. “We do not endorse piracy. We do not encourage it. We don’t point to piracy sites,” BitTorrent CEO Eric Klinker says.

BitTorrent Inc. has an image problem, or at least that’s what some people appear to believe.

Today the San Francisco company launched a website to answer the question of whether or not BitTorrent equals piracy.

“We hear this question all the time,” BitTorrent Inc. CEO Eric Klinker explains.

“We hear we’ve killed film, the radio star, and the content industry. We hear we’re the web’s dark matter, and the Internet’s seedy underbelly. We are not.”

Invented more than a decade ago by the founder of BitTorrent Inc., BitTorrent has become the protocol of choice for file-sharers. This includes those who download copyrighted material.

However, the technology itself is neutral and does a lot of good for content creators as well. This is the message BitTorrent Inc. is trying to communicate.

“We are scientists, engineers, developers and designers committed to building a better Internet. We are photographers, musicians, writers and gamers. We came to work here because we wanted to change the way the Internet works for us. How it works for all of us.”

Their message is that BitTorrent does not equal piracy. The company is distancing itself from those who download infringing content, including the majority of their 150+ million users.

“We do not endorse piracy. We do not encourage it. We don’t point to piracy sites. We don’t host any infringing content,” BitTorrent’s CEO says.

Over the past year BitTorrent has been very active in championing the legal use of its software through their artist promotions. The company further points out that major technology companies such as Twitter and Facebook are utilizing BitTorrent as well.

BitTorrent Inc. is right of course. A technology shouldn’t be blamed for how users engage with it. However, having plenty of legal uses doesn’t necessarily prevent one from running into legal trouble.

Just ask The Pirate Bay, Kim Dotcom or the people from Limewire.

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QBtorrent is the new utorrent
- timothy
  
  It has an ugly interface
  - http://twitter.com/krozareq krozareq
    
    Good. Keeps away Apple faggots who are the cancer of the Internet.
    - Christopher Kidwell
      
      It also keeps away people like myself who don’t understand the bashing on Utorrent. I’m not changing anytime soon.
  - http://twitter.com/krozareq krozareq
    
    Good. If that keeps you from using it because you want a pretty interface, then go ahead and use something inferior.
    - ITakeAPotatoChipAndEatIt
      
      Not sure what your referring to as inferior, Depends on the OS your using it on really. For Windows, uTorrent is one of the best options.
      
      GTK, Qt work well on Linux, but I’ve always had problems (laggy/unresponsive UI’s mostly) with programs written using GTK, Qt, and WX, when on windows, but not when on linux; Its just how the implementation works while being cross-platform.
- Wal-Mart
  
  Here here! Even the people themselves that made bittorrent admit most people that use it are thieves! Well done!
  
  Bittorrent is destroying the internet and people point that out to them everyday so much that they had to make a website just to deal with it!
  
  Stealing is bad for the internet and heres proof right from the horses mouth :)
  - Xult
    
    Well Mr Murdock total unreality again!
    I think you are not a paid Troll.
    With your obvious lack of IQ.
    I believe you are a Schoolchild.
    Be carefu not to get shot.
    - NotHim
      
      The guy wants attention, more than those girls on free webcams,
      don’t reply to this kid, he repeats the same over and over again.
      He’s saying “here, here” because,
      he knows some people will no longer take his words seriously.
  - Anon
    
    Bittorrent is by far the most effective way to distribute a file. Are you saying that the internet can’t handle efficient mass distribution of data? Network engineer that has authored RFCs.
    - Pelham123
      
      Wal-Mart is saying here, here. He is joking.
    - Yourname
      
      Its not the best way But it is one way, The best ways are kept Away from the public and the scene. im sure u know this. The best methods are kept From the public for a reason.
    - xpmule
      
      Yourname
      
      bad logic..
      ask the many people doing jail time for “private” access
      ever heard of authorities arresting people involved with piracy such as pc game cracking groups ? where do they PUT their files ? we all know how it gets from cracker Bill or Bob to FTP’s to where ever etc and *most of us know none of these so called private locations means your exempt from doing jail time.. if people are gonna think that let em and don’t rat people out when your arrested lol
  - Guess
    
    No one gives a shit about your anti-piracy bullshit lectures.
    utorrent and bittorrent use the torrent protocols.
    
    I used bluetooth to copy music files with friends.Is that going to destroy the signal the phones use?
  - asdf
    
    Sharing isn’t thievery.
  - guest
    
    FUCK OFF GRANDMA and go spend the five dollars the MAAFIA gave you, you piece of filth.
  - Master Bates
    
    Dear Mr Wal-Mart’s employer,
    
    Thank you for employing Mr Wal-Mart. This character really is a credit to you. The comments he makes are so believable that even the most battle hardened pirates among us are seriously considering getting off the ship at the next port and going back to sheep farming and basket weaving. His persuasive arguments have taken such a toll on our spirits that we are now weary with the philosophical and moral battle that we have been fighting with the copyright admiralty all these years. The idealistic dream we once shared of a world in which the open sharing of information and ideas would help to advance mankind is now but a distant memory, thanks to the most excellent reasoning skills exhibited by your above mentioned employee.
    
    I truly thank thee Sirs for the effort you have put in to showing us the error of our ways. Our ship will be docking in one week, and where we would ordinarily be headed to the nearest tavern to indulge our bellies with rum, and our carnal desires with the flesh of wanton wenches. We shall instead be headed to the local church to offer a prayer for your kindness and to toast your generosity with a glass of the finest milk that the towns folk can offer.
    
    Yours most sincerely,
    
    M. Bates (Sheepfarmer)
  - tonyj123
    
    The only people who are destroying the internet is the RIAA, the MPAA, the TTP, and other troll like anti-piracy groups that are just leaving a follow stench where ever they roam. How in the hell is piracy destroying the internet, by not paying for crap????? Digital, ephemeral, easily lost media???? In their mind, money is lost because they “See” a bunch of people have a good time and can’t figure out how to generate revenue from it.
  - Anon
    
    Indeed it is. Bittorrent is destroying the Internet. it allows people to transmit data, which is unlawful. Everybody is slowly realizing that as long as thieves. Punishments. I will enjoy. :)
    - BuddhaBitchSlappedAnon
      
      Totally agree with your statement there Anon. Soon, this would send a strong signal to the automotive & knives industries, where both industries have a long history of killing people, which is unlawful. Everyone is slowly realizing that murderers cannot get away. Punishments. I will enjoy. ;)
    - Scary_Devil_Monastery
      
      Name cards, people!
      
      It’s impossible to tell the difference between “Baghdad Bob”-Anon and the guys trying to troll him. You both sound the same.
    - Anon
      
      Hooray for moonspeak Anon!
    - ITakeAPotatoChipAndEatIt
      
      ?_?
      
      reads anons sarcasm
      ?????
- chronoss
  
  just use non standard rar files and AES encrypt and share with your personal friends
  like um who needs to be in a swamr with people you dont know so you can get your VPN provider or seed box provider heat to turn over or log your real ip addy and get you a copyright obuma fine or notice.
- Joe King
  
  QBtorrent seems buggy.
- Just Me
  
  You are mistaken, Deluge is the new utorrent
  - ITakeAPotatoChipAndEatIt
    
    ?_?? You are mistaken, Tribler is the new uTorrent.
- Xpmule
  
  off topic
  
  same old bs..
  rather than talking about the story or the legal ramifications of the protocol or something we’re gonna have 10 pages of a client popularity contest ?
  
  who cares lol
- Michael C.
  
  I love people who share files without regard for copyright.
  They are helping greatly to progress society.
  Copyrighting should never have existed and certainly should not still exist in the year 2012/13.
  We should have done away with it a long time ago.
michaelleung

It’s a bit silly of them to make it clear that they don’t support piracy and don’t condone it, because the people who know that aren’t the people who need to read that website, and the people who DON’T know that are the people who wouldn’t bother reading it.
- Phat Phree
  
  That’s the same as those “You wouldn’t steal a car…” ads at the start of every single movie you see. Provided of course you’ve given them your money for a legitimate copy…
  - Sense
    
    correction: every single movie you buy and see :)
  - Andrew Lee
    
    I would never steal a car but I plan on printing one someday.
    - Johndoe Harry
      
      If I could make an EXACT copy and you would keep the original then I would copy every car I like. That is all that copying movies and music is like.
    - ScrewEwe2
      
      Back when I was a teenage delinquent I, uhhhhh, reappropriated a few vehicles, but as an adult delinquent, I only reappropriate things with µTorrent, because someday, I want to be a CEO, scientist, engineer, developer, designer, photographer, musician, writer and gamer.
    - ITakeAPotatoChipAndEatIt
      
      @ScrewEwe2
      
      That’s quite the list you’ve got there. (^_^?)
  - Scary_Devil_Monastery
    
    Irrespective of if you’ve given them money for a legitimate copy, what sort of idiot would actually run that copy instead of the sanitized version where you don’t have to sit through ads and warnings you can’t run past?
Guest

If the copyright holders think that anything can be used for illegal purposes they will find a way and do everything possible to bring legal action against it to terminate it. They don’t care that there are legal uses for the product just look at what happened when the VCR came out.
- Xult
  
  Sort of the gun lobby in America… we have the right to bear arms and kill schoolchilren.
  It is quite obvoius that utorrent/bittorent protocols are a useful tool for filesharing!
  Filesharing is not illegal!
  Copyright monopolies in my opinion are equivalent to the gun lobby.
  In other words WRONG!
  - Xult
    
    excuse me for the above spelling mistakes.
    Gun Lobby wrong
    Filesharing Lobby wrong.
    Useless States of America
    - Guest321
      
      Can anybody tell me who the fuck is censoring the comments here? Ernesto, it better not be you.
  - Guess
    
    That’s only america, look at other countries with gun violence.
    Gun violence happens everywhere in the world.
    
    I don’t see how this has anything to do with torrents/filesharing at all.
    - Xult
      
      Hit a nerve?
      America is where this shit originates from.
      America The Land Of The Fee!
      It is from America that that this censorship is forthcoming.
      Without America this copyright issue would not exist.
      Realise that America allows people to kill schoolchildren under the rights of gunlaw..
      Amrerica equals North Korea for Human Rights!
    - GunRunner
      
      Yes, that happens in other parts too, in USA is easy to get guns though,
      in other parts they need to buy them in black markets
      and can’t argue: “Oh, I shot him in self-defense”,
      because, in first place, they shouldn’t have had that fire gun.
  - theonlyone
    
    Well lets just take away everyone’s guns and maybe some more of our rights (filesharing) and see if this stops anyone from mass murdering people.
    
    Timothy Mcveigh didn’t use a gun. He used fertilizer and diesel fuel.
    
    On 9-11 they took out over 3,000 with box cutters and airliners.
    
    Google how to make a bomb and see what you can do with that!
    - Xult
      
      why own a gun?
      Unless you want to shoot some fucker.
      No civilian should be allowed to own a gun unless it was part of their everyday duties.
      Carry on with this thick headed attitude and allow toal idiots to shoot children?
      The argument you try to give is totally flawed!
      Basically usa shit.
    - tonyj123
      
      Dude, first of all the root of “gun” violence is guns. It’s just simple common sense. Yeah, there are other conditions in the culture that contribute to those violent actions, but remove the guns and no gun violence, right. You’ll still have deranged lunatic mass vehicular manslaughter violence, mass knife violence, pipe bomb violence…etc, all of which still occur, but no gun violence, or at least not the Mac 10 attacks at McDonald’s of the past years.
    - puddipuddi
      
      @ Xult
      
      Don’t take away guns. If I can’t have a gun, then I can’t protect myself against the people that illegally bought guns. People that want to kill other people will still get guns. The people that just want to protect themselves from killers are punished under gun prohibition.
    - Scary_Devil_Monastery
      
      @tonyj123
      
      “Dude, first of all the root of “gun” violence is guns. It’s just simple common sense.”
      
      The wrong kind of common sense. The one which isn’t true. What creates gun violence is primarily a lack of stable infrastructure and mental care.
      
      Take a look at Switzerland – every adult person between 18 and 24 is required to keep a fully automatic rifle and a handgun at home. And yet the primary murder tool in Switzerland is the knife. Shootings are less common than in many countries where the most draconian gun laws prevail.
      
      Statistically you can’t see very much of a correlation between the number of guns and homicide.
      
      As soon as you put homicide next to the statistics of lacking healthcare/mental care, THEN you find a spot-on match.
      
      And at this point in time we can state with confidence that even if you removed the guns of every american, the next “gun shooting” would involve diesel oil and fertilizer, or primitive combat gas concocted from ordinary household chemicals.
      
      Indeed, as with so many other phenomena the solution can never rely on removing one or ten particular technical solutions. If that worked, a ban on bittorrent clients would have removed piracy.
    - http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole
      
      What a very polite and detailed way of saying that Europe is more evolved than the Americas ;-)
    - Scary_Devil_Monastery
      
      @Gene Poole
      
      “What a very polite and detailed way of saying that Europe is more evolved than the Americas ;-)”
      
      Well, no. But you can tacitly assume that Switzerland has a very highly evolved system of democratic standards and healthcare than does much of the rest of the world.
      
      Take one good look at EVERY US school massacre. You find mentally unstable individuals who found themselves a method of committing murder.
      In the nordics the preferred method for such individuals is instead arson. The point is that if someone wants to commit murder, he or she will. Firearms may be convenient here, but so is a 3,000-lb diesel bomb.
      
      And as Breivik so readily demonstrated, prohibiting firearms altogether simply meant that he was the only one around who was carrying a gun.
    - Chris
      
      Both the Oklahoma City bombing and 9/11 were planned & executed by a powerful, murderous organization that has effectively hijacked the U.S. government via planting people in key government/military/intelligence positions.
      Angry muslims with box cutters were not behind the events of 9/11 and Mr. McVeigh and his gas & fertilizer bomb were not what blasted the face off the Murrah building.
      Do your homework please.
- SomeYahoo
  
  i just held a mirror up to a copyrighted work and it copied it perfectly in it’s reflection BAN ALL MIRRORS
  - Xult
    
    I would do if they didn’t shatter every time I tried to look into one!
  - DiD
    
    Dude, even worse. You used a copyrighted work to create something new (a mirror image is not the same as the original ;) ). Was it a book? Bad for you – you just put the characters in a different order in addition to copying them… bad boy! SomeYahoo, you are clearly infringing ;)
- xpmule
  
  i agree but i have no idea what your on about with vcr’s though.
  go to amazon and buy some vhs tapes and play em ? whats the problem ?
  and they sold the machines for ages across the globe so i don’t get what your implying.
James

If bittorrent = Piracy, then so does the TCP and UDP protocols
- http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole
  
  The Internet = copying. Copying = illegal activity. Just scrap the whole thing and start from scratch. Stupid fucking internet
Heisenberg7

No matter how much they claim to be against piracy, the MAFIAA will target them like they target Google, or ISPs, or cyberlockers. The fact that they haven’t been sued yet is what surprises me the most.
- Guest
  
  Why? Because they haven’t done anything illegal.
  You might as well sue Adobe for Photoshop, for producing a product which can duplicate an image. You’re right though. Surprises me too.
  - Ggen
    
    Neither did the pirate bay
    - http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole
      
      The difference is that bittorrent Inc took steps right from the start to ensure they never promoted copyright infringement in any way, by never allowing access to torrents that linked to any unauthorized content. That’s why everyone started out with bittorrent looking at other sites for their fix
  - Tripping
    
    If you need to ask why, means you haven’t read the news in these last years.
  - Scary_Devil_Monastery
    
    Neither did TPB and neither did google. Neither did the company which originally manufactured the mp3-player (court cased into bankruptcy despite winning), and neither did the VCR manufacturers.
    
    Current tech companies have to show good faith by appearing to try. It will do no good since the MPAA/RIAA have proven themselves batshit insane about dual-use technology.
    
    But once the court cases fly, having a history to point at saying “Look, we did what we could” will be vital.
- Xult
  
  They have not sued google because google have enough money to blow them out of court!
  They pick on individuals. Take the easiest route!
  - Andrew me
    
    Maybe the solution to all of this is to have Google sue them, sue them out of existence and sue them to change the copyright laws, Google has very deep pockets and just an hour of taking their search engine down and putting up a notice saying contact your representative in government to resolve the copyright issue would solve a lot of the problems.
    
    Google , being used by almost everyone that uses the Internet has a lot of power in there hands,more power i suspect than any lobbyist in DC. More power than any copyright monopolist. Taking on Google would be like taking on the full Internet in one place. There are many hundreds of millions of people worldwide that would scream for change if google threatened to take its search engine of-line for more than a few hours, and we are also talking about many many businesses that rely on google search to get customers.
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Geust

no thats where the maffia gets your IP from…
Ophelia Millais

What prompted this PR push? Did they contact TorrentFreak with this or what? Has there been direct pressure coming from the MAFIAA? Or whisperings of lawsuits coming down the pike? It’s just kind of weird. I suspect there’s something brewing that they’re not telling us…
- ImNotDoneWithYou
  
  yea.. they want MONEY, more even by brainwashing us with ads
  and they also want to keep a distance from us, filthy ‘pirates’ (as they seem to think)
OldMare8

Dear Torrentfreak: thank you for many outstanding articles over the years, but please stop calling sharing piracy. It unnecessarily demonizes normal behavior. If sharing information is “piracy” or “theft,” then librarians and library patrons should be hunted down like the dogs they are. We need to change our language today.
- SomeYahoo
  
  totally agreed, i’m especially getting sick of seeing copying getting mixed with theft
  - http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole
    
    I think I heard a song about that once.
- Tripping
  
  I agree OldMare8, I should add I don’t consider myself a pirate.
  - Andrew me
    
    I think a lot of people consider it an achievement to be called a pirate, but i agree we should be calling ourselves sharers not pirates, no matter how good it sounds to be called a pirate.
    - OldMare8
      
      If pirates are this era’s hippies, just think where we’ll be in 50 years. People are still rolling back socially-harmful drug laws. I’m worried we’ll wind up with the equivalent of “digital prohibition.”
- Pelham123
  
  Ernesto likes to subtly whip up trolls, who drive traffic to his site with their antics.
- Scary_Devil_Monastery
  
  Whether we call it sharing or piracy the opposition will keep calling us “pirates”.
  
  The only way around that is simple – take back that name and redefine it. The same way yesterdays epithet of “gay” now adorns the “Gay Pride Parade”.
  
  The message is simple. They want to call us “Pirates”? Fine, we’ll just adopt that name and work with it.
  - OldMare8
    
    That will just make it satire (Arrrr, matey!), which is better than nothing, but it would be even “more better” to stick to an accurate term (namely, copyright infringement, that way even the opposition can’t complain about it) which actually allows people to think about the real issue: since sharing is moral. Even my grandmother understands that “sharing is caring.”
    
    When a judge is evaluating a copyright infringement case, I don’t want him to think “another one of these antisocial anarchists,” I want him to think “more copyright infringement?… do I really need to waste time on this?”
    
    At the moment politicians think the Internet (beyond Facebook) is used exclusively by antisocial thiefs (and worse). That is exactly wrong, and we need to be done with that language – like 10 years ago.
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Who

“PIRACY” do you know its TRUE meaning? most don’t!

if you think that PIRACY means to JUST make a copy of a works then you have your FACTS WRONG!

also PIRACY has NOTHING to do with copyrights.
- http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole
  
  Bittorrent is funneling their profits to support Singapore pirates to help them buy more guns and shit. Bittorrent is all about piracy.
  - Guest
    
    I see what you did there!
    You do realise that 80% of those reading here will probably believe that?
    You’re really not helping…
    - Guest
      
      Yeah, people here think a guy calling himself Wal-Mart is serious.
    - chronoss
      
      guest really means dumbass(sub in dumbass everytime you see it)….only Americans might beleive it the rest of us have brains….
Guest-1010

uTorrent is the dark matter of the internet. It’s making the web’s speed accelerate at both speed and knowledge. It’s true purpose is invisible to the eye but it’s effects are powerful. Dark matter (and I guess dark energy too) is a pretty fitting adjective for uTorrent.
- Guest-007
  
  I concur with your allusion. I sometimes sit and imagine how much the web and the intellectual development of Mankind as a whole would have been slowed without the resources made available by the generosity of the sharing community.
  
  A thousand dollars for this program, five hundred pounds for that…
  There are now countless thousands of people who have become masters of design and art, music, architecture, medicine, languages etc., etc…, all because of the benevolence of a community which recognised the flaw of a copyright regime dedicated to exploiting the wallets of those less privileged.
  
  Countless thousands who have gainful employment and worked for their right to citizenship BECAUSE they have had access to books and a knowledge base only available, and affordable, because they were a shared resource.
  
  How can copyright ‘advance’ anyone’s Knowledge, when the price for that protection is the prohibition of exchange of information and the criminalisation of a community, rooted in the belief that access for all is infinitely preferable than the feeding of the avarice of the elite few?
  
  I ask the lawmakers out there, should any be reading, to justify how criminalising sharing, persecuting and incarcerating the sharers, and depriving the populous of generally unaffordable (and sometimes deliberately made-unavailable) material and resources, helps anyone but the already successful?
  - bobmail
    
    Yet, with that income, those companies would hire more people, the stores selling them would need more staff, and the population as a whole would have more work.
    
    It shouldn’t come as a shock to anyone that the global economic meltdown sort of matched up to the peak of online piracy. The US is an information / IP society now, more than ever, and the slow but steady ripping off of the products has taken away the income from many of their industries.
    
    Imagine how much we would grow if the money moved around and more people had work.
    
    Nahh, don’t bother – you wouldn’t want to stop your free lunch, would you?
    - Guest
      
      Mortgage companies collapsed; because of their greed to lend more than they could ever recoup, even if they repossessed the properties. They went bust. NOT A SINGLE CD OR DVD was required in the process. Just plain ordinary corporate greed. The banking system as a whole destabilised because of market panic. Piracy had nothing to do with it you crank shill!
    - puddipuddi
      
      Are you serious? Entertainment industries are barely a penny to the entire economy. Maybe try massive corporations that are worth millions times more than your entertainment industry making risky investments, and banks lending more than they could handle.
      
      Are you so far gone that you think sharing caused a recession? This must be…. Wal-Mart.
    - puddipuddi
      
      In reply to myself…
      
      Not to mention, the money never stopped “moving around”. It’s still moving around dumbass, just not towards your rich movie executives. It’s going toward rent, heat and food. If we’re lucky we spend it at a theme park or something. What do you think, everytime someone downloads a movie they throw their $20 in a black hole? NO, that shit keeps “moving around”. Fuck off and eat a dick with your tin foil hat conspiracy theories :P
    - Fredrika
      
      > “Yet, with that income, those companies would hire more people..”
      
      That’s not a guarantee, they could simply have kept all the extra revenues for themselves.
      
      > “..the stores selling them would need more staff, and the population as a whole would have more work.”
      
      Stores? The alternative to on-line piracy is not purchasing physical media, because physical media is antique and obsolete in the first place. The alternative is purchases of on-line services, which demand no extra staff for added sales.
      
      > It shouldn’t come as a shock to anyone that the global economic meltdown sort of matched up to the peak of online piracy.”
      
      The revenues in the culture industry’s have grown each year for the last 15 years in perfect working symbiosis with on-line non-profit piracy. Piracy is not an issue to the culture industry or the economy. On the contrary the data that exists says it’s good for the economy and the culture industry.
      
      > “The US is an information / IP society now..”
      
      Are they now? The combined revenues of the US culture industry only makes up for less than one percent of the US economy.
      
      > “..and the slow but steady ripping off of the products has taken away the income from many of their industries.”
      
      No, IP takes away from their industries because it hinders jobs.
      
      http://falkvinge.net/2011/02/25/kill-copyright-create-jobs/
    - Scary_Devil_Monastery
      
      “It shouldn’t come as a shock to anyone that the global economic meltdown sort of matched up to the peak of online piracy…”
      
      Every serious market study ever performer has come out conclusively disproving that “piracy” as in “private individuals making copies for themselves” has any effect at all on sales. So no, your statement is manifestly untrue.
      
      And since you ought to be well aware of this by now, one wonders why you keep lying about it. Reminds me a bit of when Galileo showed the clergy a view of the moon, proving it wasn’t a perfect sphere…They casually invented invisible materials filling the valleys and craters in order to explain away the evidence. Reminds us a bit of you and Nejtillpirater.
      
      “…The US is an information / IP society now, more than ever…”
      
      If it is, the US economy is dead already. But hardly due to the effects of people copying media files, unless you mean to say that the very act of copying casts a magical curse straight out of fantasy at the US treasury. It’s about the only argument you still have.
      
      “…and the slow but steady ripping off of the products has taken away the income from many of their industries.
      
      The entire “industry” affected by non-commercial copying of media files is the size of the Pet Toy Industry.
      
      What you are actually saying is that is piracy COULD harm the copyright industry (proven falsity), then if the equivalent of the local Mom & Dad store closing it’s doors will bankrupt the state.
      
      Seriously, you need to go a tad closer to reality, right now you are making tin foil hat conspiracy theorists, scientologists and UFO-chasing suicide cults look relatively sane in comparison to yourself.
    - icec0ld
      
      What complete and utter horse shit.
      
      The idea that the global economic meltdown was caused by piracy? Link me to these statistics that you tell us can match up the so called peak (“so called” because sharing has been and continues to rise) and the recesssion so I can laugh and show you how much a dumb shit you are for even thinking it.
- http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole
  
  You wouldn’t download a crack pipe
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Dix

tixati master race
USSR

get the fuck out so what i always used vuze. garbage ancient noobs using this shit tool
- http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole
  
  Pretty sure the entire protocol is being attacked. Bittorrent Inc is just the public face for it
- http://twitter.com/Itr0ll Pat Patterson
  
  Have fun. Vuze logs EVERY tracker you go on, every torrent you download, and all your computing habits.
  
  Enjoy that one mate. Noobs use Vuze, pros use remote cmd line.
Anyone

it’s an understandable PR move from bittorrent, inc.
while appeasing the MAFIAA will never work (as Google is finding out), maybe they can distract them long enough until they are no longer a threat

still, by now the protocol is out of their hands, so even if they actually wanted to stop piracy there is nothing they can do, there are lots of excellent alternatives
- puddipuddi
  
  I always point troubled users to 2.2.1 on filehippo. It can’t be stopped it’s in the wild by the millions.
- http://twitter.com/Itr0ll Pat Patterson
  
  Yes but they will side with MPAA or whoever and go after users soon.
  
  I’m sure Utorrent has some tracking system. ANd all uTorrent needs to do is start logging ips which it already does anyways, then give it over to the proper authorities for legal action.
Mango

Hello !!!!

Why is it so wrong that authors get paid for their stuff ?
- jon7272
  
  that’s where your wrong the authors no longer own there stuff the music and movie mobs do
  - SomeYahoo
    
    yeah, and there’s that too
    
    …they still haven’t paid the guy who played Darth Vader
    - Andrew me
      
      This situation to me is the one that proves beyond a doubt that the monopolists are illegal entities that are stealing money from those that deserve it .
- Anyone
  
  authors do get paid if they sell something
  easy
- MegaAssBlaster
  
  when something is infinite nobody pays for it (air)
  
  we can copy art, therefore it is infinite, it makes perfect sense nobody wants to pay for it anymore because it is the air of the internet
- http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole
  
  Nobody disagrees with you, and you’re an idiot
  - Mango
    
    I’m not a idiot, I’m a tropical fruit.
    
    How come nobody wants fruit to get paid for stuff??
    - http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole
      
      0_o
      
      There’s a song about mangos on weebls stuff. One of the lines is “arr, it’s a pirate, he’s after my booty”. All this time I thought it was a homosexual reference, now I see. Well done!
    - Mango
      
      Please stop faking my identity. The first “Mango” post was mine, the one this reply refers to, is a fake one. :-(
- Guest-007
  
  Why is it so ‘right’ that authors get paid over, and over, and over again, for decades, for the same performance?
  
  If I build a house, and then sell it to someone, I can’t say:
  
  ‘Listen up: I built that house, it’s unique, so effectively a work of my own expression. So I own copyright on it. From now on, every time that house is put on the market, I insist on a payment each time someone comes to view it, photograph it or even comment on it. Oh, yeah. And I extend the right of my family to collect them payments even after I’m dead and forgotten.’
  
  That’s the nonsense of copyright. I can’t be paid, forever, for building a house.
  What madness possesses authors to think they should be paid in perpetuity?
  Money bought the Law. Not only can they sue you, but they engineered it so the taxpayer picks up the bill for the application of that law. The rich grow richer, and the poor, as always are expected to kowtow and accept.
  
  There are now so many copyrights and laws defining what an individual shouldn’t, can’t and mustn’t do that the ability to innovate and build upon another’s work is so marginalised that the creativity of the human race is almost at a standstill.
  
  Imagine if the guy who invented the wheel had copyrighted it. The entire transportation of ANYTHING IN THE WORLD would be limited to a licence granted by just ONE man. And if he happened to be a particularly selfish bastard there would only be one vehicle on the entire planet!!!
  - Andrew me
    
    The sad thing about your comment is that it is not the builder it is the person designing the house that wants payment over and over again, and actually no it is not it is the company that purchased his design off him that want compensation for every single time anyone even looks at the house.
  - bobmail
    
    Such a silly comment. Nobody buys the performance, that is the problem. Selling recorded music or music as “rights” is a way to make it so that no one person has to shell out the millions it might cost to buy the movie, to give it away to others. Can you imagine one single person buying “Titanic” movie for $150 million or whatever and then just giving it away?
    
    Nope. That’s why copyright is very functional, because it allows for the selling of very limited usage rights at a very low rate compared to the actual cost.
    
    In your example, it would be like someone buying a nail, hammering it into the wall of a million dollar house, and claiming ownership of the house. It would be like someone staying one night in a hotel room and claiming ownership of the hotel. It’s illogical.
- OldMare8
  
  “Creative businesses are inseparable from busking: seeing a thing is what creates demand. We have simply forgotten that front-loaded pricing is the exception and not the rule.”
- Nejtillpiraters_mom
  
  “Why is it so wrong that authors get paid for their stuff ?”
  
  Because it’s one of the signs of the Apocalypse.
  
  In Revelations, every author is paid $666 each, and then the seven dragons come.
Vyp

Well if all us pirates stopped using utorrent then they’ll only have 100 active users per month lol
Cobraverde

Smacks a bit of having your cake and eating it. They sound an awful lot like Rizzla, “We don’t support smoking marijuana.”
Phil Landry

Yea sure, it’s like gun shops, they don’t sell assault rifles for people to shoot other people. But, d’oh are we that dumb!?
- Shogunreaper
  
  What other uses to assault rifles have but killing people?
  - Phil Landry
    
    Killing Zombies
    - Guest
      
      And foreigners and ‘wogs’ (as Princess Anne would say).
  - Guest
    
    You can point them at people to obtain cash.
http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

I’ve actually found some decent music through bittorrent promoted content. Both Drive A and Professor Kliq were completely unknown to me before I found them on bt, and I recommend both.

The videos, now… That’s another story. With the exception of the yes men (which I had already previously downloaded anyway) , they’re all shit
- Guest
  
  Let’s see yours then, just so we can have a comparison of your accomplishments. My money’s on theirs being infinitely better than anything you can produce.
  - Anyone
    
    that’s not the point
    - Guest
      
      You’re right, it’s not.
      I’ve actually purchased shite NOT promoted on bt.
      Your point?
    - Anyone
      
      why did you purchase shit?
      are you a farmer in need of manure?
    - Guest
      
      Shite, sir. Not shit. Shite.
      I see you managed to evade the point of your point.
      You is cleverer than the average sock puppet, I’ll give you that.
    - Scary_Devil_Monastery
      
      @Guest
      
      “Shite, sir. Not shit. Shite.”
      
      The word shite may refer to:
      
      1) The shite, the principal character in a Japanese Noh play
      2) Shite, the person who performs the technique in aikido
      3) A variation of shit, especially in Ireland and the UK
      
      You have purchased actual people then? Was it Japanese actors or martial artists you bought?
    - http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole
      
      Soylent Shite. made from real Japanese “krill shrimp.” Also available in Sapporo Soylent Shite.
    - ScrewEwe2
      
      To them below, talking shite don’t ya know.
      
      Here I sit all broken hearted, tried to shite, but only farted… just doesn’t sound quite rite…
  - Guest
    
    Let’s see YOURS.
    - Guest
      
      You want to see my shit?
      WTF?
ThumbsUpThumbsDown

So, the Big Question?

Why haven’t Copyright Holders already started a “wiipe-out” lawsuit against BitTorrent?

First: The DMCA is pretty black and white regarding immunity of technological intermediaries for third party actions. That’s why BitTorrent tells the world so loudly that it is merely one of the world’s most neutral and efficient distribution mechanisms: Nothing Less; and, nothing more. Under current law, the Supreme Court is not a happy hunting ground for Copyright Holders hunting BitTorrent rabbit.

Second: Everything that Mother told us about Money “not being everything” seems not to apply to high stakes litigation. What is the state of BitTorrent’s Litigation fund? Maybe not as fat as Google’s, but fat enough to fund a full round trip to the Supreme Court for actual Decisions on their issues. Google too has this kind of wherewithal. Remember what the virtuous maid said to the Big BAD Wolf?, “But……What Big teeth you have!!”

Third: 200 Million users is a huge political weapon, every bit as important as Money; perhaps, in the long run, even more important than Money. So far, Companies like Google, Netflix, Amazon, BitTorrent, (not to mention the ISPs). have walked on bended knees around Copyright Holders; but, the collective installed user base of these Companies is vast and rapidly increasing. These Companies could very suddenly choose to activate these Customers politically against the Copyright agenda. What’s the quickest way to get these Companies off their knees and fighting? Sue them!!

I make these observations because, taken together, they clarify what Copyright Holders have been doing in the lower Courts; and, how we might most effectively oppose them:

A) They have been using Default Judgments, extracted from victims, who have been carefully selected for lack of financial wherewithal, as a legal basis for coercing larger; but still vulnerable, adversaries. That’s exactly what is at work in the recent shut down of the UK Pirate Party’s Proxy. B) They have been tapping Administrative backers for execution on their claims. At this point, most of their actual power, is less effectively legal, than administrative. (That is what we’re seeing when local police are encouraged to set up a “Special” IP enforcement Bureau; or, when the DOJ is persuaded to do a barely legal take-down of Mega-Upload.) C) They have been using Private Corporate Self Help to administratively control large populations of Customers. That is what we see in the extra-judicial MOU by which five Monopoly ISPs Hope to impose Copyright Holder friendly controls on 260 Million American customers. Private Corporations helping their Corporate counter-parties.

What they’ve been avoiding is taking on companies like BitTorrent and Google.

We need to take them where they don’t want to go!
- Guest
  
  We need to take them where they don’t want to go!
  Madness!
  Have you any idea of the taxi fare to the surface of the Sun?!
  - ThumbsUpThumbsDown
    
    Not Madness!! What’s at stake here is worth the taxi fare.
    - Guest
      
      Unfortunately, they have the kitty for such a jaunt.
      The ‘Pirate Party Proxy Shutdown’ entry is a case in point.
http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

The protocol is not illegal anyway, so it’s all just a way to make the precious MAFIAA happy.

Doesn’t matter, it has plenty of legal uses anyway. Blizzard used to release patches and upgrades to their games via bt. And the humble bundle lets you download your purchases over bt, I assume to save busy server delays.

That’s like attacking encryption because wikileaks uses it to hide their insurance files.
- Guest
  
  The BBC uses a variant to distributed their programs on IPlayer.
  They’re in for rude awakening.
http://twitter.com/krozareq krozareq

I have a saying, if someone has to say they are not something, it means they actually are. Someone who really isn’t something would be too offended to even respond.

How many times we hear someone say: “I don’t give a fuck what people think of me”? Yet they are the most self-conscious motherfuckers about that.

Denial is a knee-jerk reaction.

uTorrent is big for piracy. Let’s not bullshit that. Even their search feature IIRC pointed right to results for major pirate sites. BT Inc would probably not exist today if it wasn’t for piracy. It does have other uses such as getting patches, game mods, etc. But let’s face it, those are exceptions to the rule.

I am a pirate. If you don’t like it then too bad. I am not going to pretend to be a good guy. I’m not.
- SomeYahoo
  
  “I am not going to pretend to be a good guy. I’m not.”
  
  i wish people would stop associating filesharing with negative connotations such as “piracy”, “pirates”, “stealing”, “theft”, “bad”, “immoral” and that goes for everybody not just the MAFIAA it saddens me to see file sharers calling themselves the bad guys when they have done nothing wrong
  - http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole
    
    It’s cool. We’re taking it back.
    
    Porch monkey.
  - http://twitter.com/krozareq krozareq
    
    Lets’put it this way. If I could press a button that nukes the entire world; I would. I hate humanity.
- Anyone
  
  sharing culture is a good thing, no need to feel like the “bad guy”
- Wallace
  
  You may well be a bad guy, but “piracy” proves nothing one way or the other.
- Guest
  
  I have a saying, if someone has to say they are not something, it means they actually are…
  I am not going to pretend to be a good guy. I’m not.
  
  By your own saying, not only are you pretending to be good guy, you actually are as well! Nice one, knob-head.
- http://gear-mentation.myopenid.com/ Gear Mentation
  
  Yes you are a good guy, you are a pirate. Stop with the false consciousness.
- http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole
  
  “You’re not either a pirate OR a good citizen”
  
  Stop buying into the hype.
http://www.facebook.com/keithbaker.memphis Keith Baker

What difference does it make anymore? It cannot be stopped, this is the future. Any company attempting to take on the millions of torrent users would surely run out of money before making a noticeable dent. Better to stop fighting and start trying to monetize it as best they can.
- Guest
  
  Garlic bread. That’s the future. Garlic…bread…;)
  - Guest
    
    I don’t really know.. I mean I like regular bread, just so it fresh from the oven so I can argue with you on that subject
  - ScrewEwe2
    
    Reefer is my recent past so Garlic Bread sounds like a good plan for my near future. Here we are, it’s 12-2112, and the munchies have assumed control … munchies have assumed control … have assumed control….
    
    Long live Alex, Geddy and Neil, and John Rutsey too… And Garlic Bread 4sure …and let’s not forget Maryjane … damn, almost forgot reefer.
SungSimSong

That actually makes a lot of sense when you think about it.
PrivacyUSA.tk
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Guest

Bittorrent Inc. didn’t kill the radiostar, Video did!

http://youtu.be/W8r-tXRLazs
- Eatmybark
  
  Your link wouldn’t work in my country. And yes they are desperate for revenue by the looks of it. BPI bunch of no talent leaches go find yourself a new host to suck off. Your done in due time like Buggles :)
  
  http://music.yahoo.com/buggles/
  - guess
    
    same here, blocked wtf?
    
    Unblocked video here.
    
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwuy4hHO3YQ
wherediditgo

what happened to peerblock? anyone know
- Anyone
  
  it never worked?
  - Guest
    
    That’s right.
    I bought it.
Guest

Developer Firon is a staff member of HDBits. They serve up high definition Linux ISOs there.
- Guest
  
  So?
SomeGuy

True Piracy, The act of selling copies of digital media for a price.
Reminds me of a clip from hackers where cerial killer is a perfect
example of pirating.

From the movie Hackers.
Tell me what you need. Records? Tapes? Any kind offormat or disk.
Check this out, each of you. Compilation tapes of my own making.
I call this ‘The Greatest Zukes Album’,
featuring Hendrix, Joplin, Mama Cass, Belushi,
all great artists who asphyxiated on their own vomit!
chronoss

do you like warner brothers?
DO you love there policy of funding hte mpaa?
Do you love there music labels funding of the riaa?

IF YOU DO use there torrent client called utorrent ( pronounced mirco torrent , however its not micro anymore more like BIGBROTHER) and you can help support them today….

Ever wonder how these 3rd parties are gathering all the data on bit torrent use? WELL utorrent and most clients encryption is so cool that deep packet inspection can easily see what your doing ….yes you too can enjoy the fruits of your labour in a court room paying for the next trillion years to people whom are too lazy to work …yes LAZY people need caring too. FAT ugly retards that wander aobut there homes and cant think or move beyond the confines of a 500000 square feet lavishly made home….

OH the joys of being roman when not in rome…HELP THEM OUT USE UTORRENT MORE….
haha
this message brought to you by
RetardTorrent the new client by Warn.A.Brother that pops up can calls you a retard for helping labels in any way…
- Guest
  
  trololol
  - chronoss
    
    ya once in a while i cant stand stupidity….lol
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- chronoss
  
  big brother thanks you for your support and pulls your underwearover your head and beat syou wiht a bat and hten makes you spin 10 times in the same direction as the earth and then asks you….
  
  what way are you spinning….
  HEY I GOT DOPE FOR SALE at ( THIS ADDRESS ) said while standing out front of a cop shop…
  ROFL that’s about what parent poster just did.
ScrewEwe2

Good to see that they’ve given us back the normal Disqus comment format. Who knows for how long though?
Guest

uTorrent is a US piece of SHIT ! why hasnt uTorrent paypal been suspended ? FUCK USA
mary hinge

wow this one’s hit a nerve. a gun is like utorrent and the bullets are like the files. we can follow the laws and fire at a circle forever and ever, or we can do illegal stuff, either way the instrument will get the blame in the end, not the user. take the instrument away and make it illegal and the problem is solved…according to politicians. this is utter balls so it is never going to happen, because we can and do make our own guns/clients under such circumstances. from this poinrt on i ave lost it und vill now praceed to my secund joint, thank you and good night all
http://gear-mentation.myopenid.com/ Gear Mentation

Lordy, so now we have to put up with hypocrisy from bittorrent software makers? Why can’t they admit that torrenting is about piracy? Sure, they can’t because they don’t want to be shut down. But that just means they should be putting all their efforts into making bittorrenting anonymous. They don’t support piracy? They don’t support 99% of their user base? Thanks so much.
- chronoss
  
  ive never shot at anyone or put them at swords edge for copying a file…it isnt piracy its file sharing and some argue some weirdness called copyright infringement like they own the files ….WRONG society gives them a right ot make a buck to keep making stuff. BUT see they are deaf dumb and probably blind cause they now require 80 years in canada to make a buck ….seems no one wants to buy crap any more….well dont make it sounds like hollystupid is a bad investment if you have to threaten people with lawsuits to get others to buy your garbage…
  it also is funny cause if we gathered 1 million people and went after these fooks in say my nation a canada there isnt enough cops, army or anyone that could stop us from burning down every one of there lawyers buildings and there businesses. ROFL.
  ya so when you actualyl get round to inconviencing me that bad then the revolution will be on till then…..its news at eleven….
  
  i think what i’ll do is go off and make some entertianment for myself and then ill just give it away ….i dont have 1000 people helpign me so tak eit easy sit back sme some washington weed or colorado weed or bc weed and relax
  - ScrewEwe2
    
    Hmmmm, Colorado might be a nice place to go on a mini vacation and get my heart back to nature and nurture my head with a little or a lot of mile High Reefer Gladness to avoid all the Madness.
- Ophelia Millais
  
  Why can’t they admit that torrenting is about piracy? I’ll tell you exactly why. It’s because copyright owners exploit any such “knowledge” of copyright infringement in $multi-million secondary infringement lawsuits against Internet intermediaries. Examples can be found in the LimeWire, MP3Tunes, and Alki David-CBS cases, and probably others.
  
  Any admission or implication of awareness of widespread piracy, even in internal company emails, is used against the makers and distributors of software that people use to engage in direct infringement. Thus, the remaining companies have learned that they have to be very careful what they say about their code, their services, and the technology they employ.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003037095323 Jerilyn Nighy

Bittorent encouraged me to purchase a frigate and attack the Silver Train at Maracaibo.
Jojoma1922

All I know is you fuckers better stay away from vpnbook. That shit is associated with markmonitor.
- guess
  
  Your source is where???
  - Jojoma1922
    
    I don’t have a source necessarily, but Inoticed sinced they updated the config files and changed the ip, I’ve used peerblock to monitor the traffic. I don’t know much about much, but it is constantly connecting to a dns server that is supposedly associated with markmonitor, whether that means anything or not, I don’t know. But also the new ip is no longer in romania, the lookup shows it as being in both amsterdam and chicago, and even one lookup shows it as tehran. What the fuck, over?
    - guess
      
      good find, i will take a look later
    - guess
      
      Speedtest shows the isp of vpnbook is:
      
      FDCservers . net
      
      They state on the site.
      “Please email all abuse including Copyright material issues to….”
      
      To use it or not, i’m not sure yet, But they do accept paypal/bitcoin donations and wouldn’t that count on making money based on filesharing?
- Concerned vpnbook user
  
  Yes, I noticed over the last few days that their old certificates don’t connect (Port 53, 80 & 443) and will only connect to the new one (port 25000) which is in Amsterdam, but a dnsleaktest.com test says the USA. Very strange and I stopped using it. I don’t trust it anymore. Any suggestions of other good free VPN’s out there as I’m a cheap skate.
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aoi

Seriously, What exactly did he mean by distancing themselves?
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Midas

I’m done with uTorrent.
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http://profile.typepad.com/6p0120a5509de8970c ???

MAFIAA RIAA MPAA doesn’t care they want to kill bittorrent
Anonymous

another company that has relied on the ‘more dubious’ uses of something to make it a market leader, so it can produce a commercial version that earns money as well as a ‘free’ version, only to renounce that very use. what a wanker! hopefully, there will be other clients that are as light weight and feature rich but not two faced
http://twitter.com/Itr0ll Pat Patterson

Bram Cohen where are you? Why did you let your beautiful piece of software become absorbed and commercialized and now used for specific purposes and not other.

Why would the company even mention this? If piracy doesn’t happen on this platform, another one will crop up to replace it. They pretend they are special cuz of some stupid protocol that hash checks chunks and uploads while it downloads.

FTP’s with ‘SITE REQ’ is all you need ;)
Guest

Nice censorship TorrentFreak.

Censoring qbittorrent link…
Anon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajWFqtU_UtM
henreeG

kitchen knives were invented for cooking, but there has been many stabbings.
This means that a kitchen knife is evil, let’s start a petition to ban them.
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http://twitter.com/Mido1000 Ahmed Omar

Very silly this word ” just ask The Pirate Bay ,Kim Dotcom or the people from Limewire ” …The Pirate Bay makes your Bittorrent famous …and without it …Bittorrent wouldn’t be famous …All respect for The Pirate Bay
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Bubanee

Oh fuck off, their guilty as. They’ve just got great excuses to hide the truth and you know what! fucking brilliant really.. did anyone have a go at the person who put the AM band radio on a device with a button for a Tape Player that simply said ‘Record’ of course not… Power on i say.. copyright issues started long before the net so my answer to all of this… Fuck Off, damage is done!.. :)
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xpmule

If citizens are going to be victimized and anyone that runs a web site related to file sharing (index sites) then i say screw Bittorrent inc. and sentence them all life in prison with billions in fines !

I’m so sick and tired of the hypocrisy and diseased logic of anti-piracy douche bags. The answer must be a result of the question.

All i see is a crystal clear double standard. one situation = jail time and another even more popular is effectively ignored.

We need to have logic applied and laws created and used fairly and not as a tool for the MAFIAA. If company A is a criminal then company B doing the same damn thing better be too ! Of course it not and we all know it.

Its one thing to fuck with people and their ability to have fun file sharing but when you terrorize the public and victimize people for no god reason then look out !

Fuck BT inc throw em in jail and my ISP and google and.. and.. and.. and..
OR pick and choose which ones will be ignored and what winnie the poo laptops will be seazed..

I’ve been watchin the shit go on since ShareReactor was taken down
and i’m fucking sick of it !
Its nothing but Government and Corporate sponsored Terrorism !

If someone dragged a few of the dirt bags around town from a truck i would laugh my ass off ! ..i have zero sympathy for these shit heads and would spit on them if i get the chance.
I will continue to support file sharing till the end..
The MAFIAA will have to pry the mouse / keyboard from my cold dead hands lol
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