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Verizon Will Reduce Speeds of Repeated BitTorrent Pirates

At the end of this month the controversial “six-strikes” anti-piracy system will kick off in the U.S., and today two of the participating Internet providers have been discussing what measures they will take against repeated BitTorrent pirates. Verizon plans to notify alleged pirates via email and voice-mail, and will throttle the connection speeds of repeated infringers. Time Warner Cable will warn subscribers through popups and restrict users’ Internet browsing by directing them to a landing page.

Last year the MPAA and RIAA teamed up with five major Internet providers in the United States to launch the Center for Copyright Information (CCI).

The parties agreed on a system through which subscribers are warned that their copyright infringements have been observed by rightsholders. After several warnings ISPs may then take a variety of repressive measures to punish the alleged infringers.

From leaked AT&T training documents we learned that the company will block users’ access to popular websites until they complete a copyright education course. However, none of the participating Internet providers have publicly commented on the measures they plan to take, until now.

During a panel discussion hosted by the New York Chapter of the Internet Society, Verizon and Time Warner Cable unveiled details of their plans.

Link Hoewing, Vice President of Internet and Technology Issues for Verizon, said his company will employ a three stage process. The first two alerts will result in a simple notification email informing the users that their connection has been flagged for copyright infringements.

After the second warning comes the acknowledgment phase in which a popup is delivered users. Once received subscribers are required to read and confirm, a process designed to ensure that they are aware of the unauthorized sharing that’s taking place via their account.

If the infringements continue punishments become a reality on the fifth and the sixth alerts. Hoewing said that these repeated infringers will have their Internet connections throttled resulting in significantly slower download speeds. The throttling is temporary and will be lifted after two or three days.

Fernando Laguarda, Time Warner Cable’s Vice President of External Affairs, said his company will take a slightly different approach. The notification and acknowledgment phases are fairly similar, but instead of reducing connection speeds they will restrict users’ Internet browsing by directing them to a landing page.

Laguarda did not explain in detail for how long users will be restricted or what websites they will be able to reach, if any.

CCI’s Executive Director Jill Lesser, who also participated in the panel, stressed that the main purpose of the alerts is to educate the public. The participating parties realize that determined individuals can circumvent the system by using a VPN or switching to other means of file-sharing that are not tracked under the agreement.

“Yes, there are ways around it, and yes there are other ways to pirate,” Lesser said, adding that these hardcore pirates are not the target of the system.

Finally, Lesser said that only large ISPs were invited to join the copyright alert system to make it easier to come to an agreement. However, now that everything is ready to be set in motion, the CCI is planning to invite other Internet providers.

Whether other providers will be eager to join remains to be seen. A Cox spokesperson previously told TorrentFreak that his company was invited but “decided not to participate for internal reasons.”

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  • BobSmiley

    Their methods of gathering information are completely incorrect. I received an email the other day saying I was caught downloading from a site I never even heard of… downloading a disney show I never heard of as well.
    Mind you I do download torrents Im not disputing that but sending notices about downloading stuff I dont even know about is a little absurd. Im sure there are countless thousands upon thousands of people who are in the same boat as me.
    Some Jonny 2bit who just randomly creates false info and reports it.

    • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

      Welcome to the “new reality” of the United Corporate States of Fascist America in which “WE, the People …” are downgraded from citizens with rights to mere consumers with threats if you breach a Corporations terms & conditions of service..

      Doesn’t sound like any kind of freedom or democracy I’d vote for. But maybe the Pirate Party USA can help things along a little.

      Why not join up?
      http://www.pirate-party.us/

      • Anon

        This is most excellent. You can run but you will not be able to hide much longer. lol Next up? VPN, encryption licensing and even more painful, eye watering punishments. Act like pirates? Be treated like pirates. Like sport.
        Love this shit.

        More popcorn.

        • Fredrika

          > “You can run but you will not be able to hide much longer. lol Next up? VPN, encryption licensing and even more painful, eye watering punishments.”

          And what do you propose against the completely decentralised next generation F2F filesharing protocols, which can’t be stopped neither technically nor legislatively, with which the entire earth’s population can fileshare illegally with, which the con artist collective Mafiaa won’t be able to do anything about?

          I’ve asked you over and over again for the last couple of weeks but you can’t seem to be able to come up with an answer to that particular question.. You seem desperately afraid of even commenting on it.

          I guess the scam is falling apart, the anti-pirates have finally reached the end of the line, they lost, and they couldn’t do anything about piracy, which the pirates correctly predicted over 10 years ago.

          So sad, so sad..

        • OmgUsuckBalls

          Your comments are punishment enough.
          Like being forced to watch 80-yo lesbians having sex.

          ClockWork Anon.

        • Trespass

          No one will ever stop piracy, Anon, it has been around as long as recorded media. Drinking kool-aid with that popcorn?

        • Guest

          Even when you’re not acting like a pirate? Perhaps one day your IP will show up, Anon, and you can be gutted under the punishments you so gleefully masturbate to. Maybe Pelouzey will be able to soothe your butthurt then, you psychopath.

        • Proud Pirate

          70% of internet users are gonna start running ?????

          Hey CHUMP….
          Anti-pirates and it’s ideological believers are the SHRINKING minority.
          Yous guise are the ones who better start hiding.

           
           

          Act like BE anti-people oligarchy…..Be treated like anti-people oligarchy.

        • Jmorse43508

          Obvious troll is obvious.

          Nothing to see here but the same old MAFIAA drivel.

          Methinks you are part of a MAFIAA or government disinformation campaign. That would seem to explain your constant trolling here.

        • Sue

          I use many encrypted tunnels for commercial purposes at work. The corporates wont accept baseless legal threats about piracy based only on using encrypted data. There are many reasons, phone calls, financial information, identification information, mediacal info, etc etc. Encrypted tunnels are needed. Also It is not possible to license every ssh connection when they are established on an ad-hoc basis. Further, American law does not affect the whole world or the whole net (even though they are trying). So even if america becomes more fucked up they still wont be able to enforce it.

        • Predator

          “Act like pirates?”

          No. Acting like pirate would be to kill your boss. And this is exactly what I have in mind. Sorry paid troll.

        • Anon

          Listen. I was paid by the MPAA to do your job before. If your anti-file sharing opinion was genius what would be the point coming at TF antagonizing the people?

          The true is that you are actually paid by the RIAA/MPAA/affiliates for the single purpose of propaganda.

          If your employer believe that they can give the impression that some people from the public think like them by such a crude method they are delusional.

          Tell them to go down the bowlshit mountain before it collapse because it always do eventually.

        • Anon

          Anyway it is not going to make people go back and buy their shit again so what the point? Going out of business faster?

        • Sick

          @Anon — living in fantasy land over there? There is plenty of ways to get unlicensed content, you put up a wall, we’ll bring out an axe. Get used to it, bitch.

        • Chronoss2008

          so your gong to lock me up for sending hello encrypted without a license
          good cant wait to bankrupt you….
          your actually a form of economic terrorism on your united states…..your screwing the entire nation.
          i say do it…quicker the better so your rich friends get ass raped by the people when they come for you.

        • Guest

          I’ll laugh when someone hijacks your internet connection.

        • Guest

          This guy shall be banned from posting here.

        • Anyone

          nono, noone should be banned from posting here

          the MAFIAA is the one that is censoring what they don’t like, we can handle the occasional idiot like Anon or Nej

        • Guest

          With the money for appeal you can buy a Raspberry Pi.

          UNITED FASCISTS OF AMERICA

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          Let me see…the method is completely useless and your proposals so far out of touch with reality it makes the “Workers Utopia” of zealous marxists look achievable.

          Well, I’ll assume living in denial is the only way which gets you through another day, so I’ll just be hoping that what you perceive to be popcorn actually is. Not a given granted your skewed views.

        • Andrew Lee

          I bet it’s hard to say what you just said and actually keep a straight face.

        • JordanKratz

          Screw You Stupid RIAA LOVER !
          Go lick some RIAA Ass.Your Nose is all brown.

        • djnforce9

          “Act like pirates? Be treated like pirates”

          …and as for you, act like the outdated “has-been” that you and every other MAFIAA goon is, and get replaced by something newer and far superior (like Kim DotCom’s upcoming Megabox). It’s only a matter of time and the sooner your organization folds, the better it will be for everyone because someone else will take your place who ISN’T still trying to conduct business like it was the 1990′s (or even earlier).

        • ReyTFox

          Oh STFU Anon, and go back to your work exploiting people for the porn biz, you inhuman shitbag.

        • Guest

          Even China can’t stop ‘piracy’ so there’s little point in licensing encryption usage or blocking VPNs go take it from China, they even admit you cannot block the internet, but that doesn’t stop them from blocking bad websites for the unsavy majority.

      • EternallyDissolved

        thanks, been looking for an official page, thought there wasn’t one because when i looked like a yr ago, i coudn’t find an organized pirate party in the us! JOINED!!!

      • Anon

        I’m going to start my own party. The Corn Flakes and Piss party. Not a political party, but a party hardy party, where we eat Corn Flakes with Piss and watch 80 yr. old lesbians bump uglies.

        BYO Popcorn and Piss, we have lots of Cornflakes.

        • CIA

          I’m ALL IN! The Education of General Pirate.
          CIA you later.

      • Guest

        the bitch said “WIRELESS IS NOT SECURE”

        They really want to ban OPEN WIFI.

        • Guest

          MAFIAA idiots don’t understand that by aiming the majority it will make the majority aware of VPNs?

          Also by aiming the majority, they will sell less both MAFIAA and ISPs.

          So I can only think of this as an attempt to control the internet and protect the status quo.

          What a prison planet we live on.

        • Guest

          Those puppets say this is the best time because internet is developing.

          They want to stop internet evolution.

          The bitch said they will take care of VPNs later!

          This won’t stop.

        • Guest

          United Fascists of America

        • Guest

          They say, in their perspective, that 6 warnings will reduce lawsuits against individuals.

          bullshit

          Then you’ll have lawsuits, DMCA and 6-strike system.

        • Guest

          Now all is starting to make sense.

          With this system MAFIAA will be able to gather information about people’s internet habits.

          They will force people to appeal which generates money to MAFIAA. Innocent people (or not) who don’t want to waste money will get abused.

          WOW this scheme is completetely fascist.

          usa sucks

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          Actually, it looks like they want to ban wifi, period.

          Not too surprising. In order to secure a wifi from anything other than a bored teen with an interest in messing up, you need skills which 99,9% of the Luserbase simply does not have.

          Meaning that I wouldn’t be too surprised if the ISP’s involved in the scheme started handing out non-wifi routers and long cables as the standard package. This just fails on ALL levels.

        • DWizard

          They’re overstepping their boundaries. Banning open WIFI is actually way out of their league. It’s a technology that affects to much (that’s oversimplifying it). And IMO it would kill the appeal of much new hardware that is evolving as we speak.

          If I’m wrong, so be it.

    • Retaliator

      I wonder How we can kick Verizon off the net permanently. I am sure there is a way. to do that.

      • Scary_Devil_Monastery

        It will happen by itself. Once the system starts generating false positives in sufficient number – and it will – the average subscriber will very soon get fed up by having his ISP sending him threatening letters for no reason.

        Worse, assuming the ways there are to troll the system, the system will get trolled, meaning that the first time Verizon throttles an innocent subscriber it will hit papers.

        I’m not sure which legal recourse there is – Mystik pointed out that US consumer protection can – slightly unbelievably – be overridden in part by the ToS.

        However, what will happen is that people lose faith in Verizon at which time that market spot has suddenly opened for competitors.

        In short, the error is self-correcting.

        • JordanKratz

          I am so hoping their bullshit six strikes system wakes up the Normal Sheeple in USA and makes them just as angry as we are.
          Would love to see ISP’s Sued Bigtime Amounts and Would also love to see lots of Folks drop them for ISP who does not do 6 Strikes.

          Fuck The MAFIAA ! Boycott all their Stuff.

      • rory

        We all know how. The one thing that we do have control over is what we pay for. I’m sure many of you are on fios right now. If they just so happen to throttle your connection over sharing, dump them and go somewhere else. As stated before, the loss in profits will make them think again about what they are doing.

      • Fed up with Fascism

        There are already alternatives positioning themselves to take over the gap in the market when these ISP overlord rapists take their customers to a boiling point. Its called Google Fiber. Just launched as a test in Kansas City and they are customer and community focused. Providing free internet at a good speed (just pay for set up) and paid internet and TV for speed that blows these rapists out of the water. Just wait until Google which has a history of wiping unenforceable court order threats with their asses, hands them their lunch and makes them go home while it takes all of the business due to giving the client what they want and have been expecting for years from the current fools.

        https://fiber.google.com/about/

        Now this will be the real event where you need popcorn.

        Viva Piracy! Viva Freedom!

        Down with USA.com Inc. LLC, A division of China Corporation.

    • TechGuy

      LOLLL technically there is going to be a huge problem with IP.

      Dynamic IP is shared among subscribers of the same ISP, if only one of them is downloading illicit content, everyone will get an notice, because you cannot see and know directly who’s the man behind the IP.

      This system will be fucking annoying since you will have to prove yourself to your ISP that you didn’t download these files. How can you do that? sending your hard drive to them?

      Seriously, there is something that I don’t understand from this ridiculous system.

      People should start to use VPN under port 443 which will pass your whole internet connection inside a SSL tunnel, almost same protection that PayPal or any bank is using.

      and btw FUCK YOU US!!!

      • Fuckpiss

        The ISP knows which person has which IP at what time.

        People don’t have the same dynamic IP at the same time.

        • Guest

          Not every ISP does log this information. In Germany, some ISPs don’t log any info on purpose, why? because they don’t need to. The law is strict over there about personal information being logged at all, even the EU Data retention directive hasn’t been implemented yet and probably never given the attitude they have to it!

        • Weye

          You’re talking about Germany, in USA, they love to stalk people, well, at least their own government loves to do that.

  • Nothingto1

    The DMCA needs to be put down. Internet communism shall live free within the internet…

    • Anyone

      for once this is not the fault of the DMCA

      • Nothingto1

        This wouldn’t really be an issue, had the DMCA not been as draconian as it is today…

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          True on that. The DMCA was a good idea at first, but once they added the “Notice and removal if no counternotice”, I had a severe problem with it.

          Notices to the person who supposedly uploaded something ‘pirated’ can be lost in numerous ways in the real world and there are fair use reasoning in some cases.

  • Ravenusa

    so whos a provider that isnt doing this? ive been with verizon for 13+ years, but i guess its time to change.

  • http://nejtillpirater.wordpress.com/ Nejtillpirater

    Throttling is a very reasonable solution. Down from 10Mbit/s or more to 100kbit/s. Reduces the effect of piracy but still makes it possible to use the Internet for paying bills, shopping etc.

    • ErnestoTF

      And after 3 days it goes back to normal…..

    • Corp Inc

      Than you should pay 10 times LESS than you do now. See how they like that.

    • Corp Inc

      *100x

    • Fredrika

      > “Throttling is a very reasonable solution.”

      You seem confused. Since piracy causes no harm, logically the only reasonable thing is to do nothing, other than legalise filesharing.

      Or is simple logics to much for you?

      • Goosmoo

        Oh come on. Don’t be so ignorant with your comments. Piracy does tremendous harm to many people in the entertainment industry. Thanks to piracy those media executives can only afford to take 12 weeks of vacation each year instead of 11. Thanks to piracy a lot of celebrities can only buy 4 mansions instead of 5. Thanks to piracy “Sony Pictures became the second Hollywood studio of 2012 to hit $1 billion in domestic box office receipts” when they really should have hit 2-3 billion. It should be obvious to everyone that piracy is having a detrimental effect on society and the economy.

        • Goosmoo

          Oops. That should be 11 weeks of vacation instead of 12.

          I fail !!

        • Weye

          Yes, poor rich people, not getting more money, they probably won’t use, must feel terrible. This damned piracy.

    • Anyone

      the ISP should charge less if they downgrade the connection

      also, it makes it harder to buy the “legitimate” offers from the MAFIAA
      great plan

    • Guest

      Good luck doing that to broadband users. Why you think it’s fine to punish legitimate customers is beyond any reasonable person, Nej. Maybe we’ll find your car, drive it and break several speed limits, and you foot all the fines. Sounds fair, right?

    • Trespass

      Throttling worked real well for Comcast. They got their butts sued from a class action suit. Bet they won’t be joining the mix.

      • Cheesethief

        $16 million fine from some 34 billion in revenue, you reckon Comcast really gave a fuck when that;s chump change to them, honestly?

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          Actually…yes. Any company losing 16 million without commensurate gains is a company where the blood will be knee-high in the manager’s offices.

          If that company then also gets bad marketing and loses customers over the ploy, it gets REALLY ticked.

    • Pelham123

      “Throttling is a very reasonable solution.”

      If your bandwidth is throttled, you can’t stream “legally” or “purchase” videos and audio files either. So it’s not actually a solution at all.

      And it’s addressing something that isn’t a problem.

      Still, nobody will ever get to this point. They’ll be VPNning it first. And there are a number of other ways to dodge “strikes” too.

    • Nejtillpirater

      Hey you! stop changing your name! you were Anon now you are Nejtillpirater?

      By the way I was using this name before when I was doing your job. Now I am retaliating by bothered your fake for hire post.

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      Given the ease by which any halfway determined troll could ensure the neighbor he doesn’t like will get throttled on a regular basis, I think the system looks far from reasonable.

      Much like saying someone should have their driver’s license suspended as long as hearsay and rumor alone has the guy speeding more than six times.

    • 100

      People are still able to download many things with just 100kb/s, yes, it’s a big headache, but still.

  • natasha

    they are trying to make it seem like no big deal. it wil get worse as time goes on. we need to squash it now before that happens

    • Dondilly

      What makes these measures utterly futile in doing anything other than ISPs alienating their customers to the same extent MAFIAA members have is that data already shows that the vast bulk of file sharing/copying occurs offline between friends and colleagues.

      Thanks to the famed 6 degrees of seperation, it doesnt take long for data to travel with or without the net. When you can now buy usb harddrives for £100 that are capable of holding the entire napster cat at its peak 12 years ago, kids swapping drive surely is
      the greater threat or for that matter swapping albums or movies between smartphones. My phone, good but hardly cutting edge
      (galaxy note, a derivative of the galaxy s2 with bigger screen) has 32gb internal storage plus takes upto 32gb sdcard. If i put my mind to it i could swap and gain more pirated data daily via my phone than is physically possible online.. so why their rabid obcession with net piracy ???

  • Dondilly

    If i had the misfortune of living where there was no choice but these companies that are fawning over the mafiaa, i would reduce payments on a prorata basis to account for discrimenatory throttling.

    Correct me if im wrong, but isnt it still illegal to discriminate against different type of data (as comcast found to their cost) and illegal under many different statutes to discriminate between customers. Yet that is exactly what they are doing to an account holder (not identified as an infringer) and without a lawful court weighing the evidence and ordering them to do so.

    I can see a class action lawsuit on the horizon.

    • Andrew me

      The sad thing is that it is the ISP’s who will be paying when a class action lawsuit is brought against those responsible. They will be the ones losing money not the RIAA or there cohorts in crime. And it only has to happen once in one court where someone wins a settlement for the ISP’s to be running away from the six strike law as fast and loudly as they can.

  • FuckingTrolls

    I was under the impression That America Has Agreed that an Ip Doest = a person. So How are they going to prove that it is indeed you downloading? Wil american isp’s start monitoring if your reciving Bittorrent streams? The whole system seems to be silly imo. Everyone will obfuscate their connection by means of a private service, Thus Slowing down Our Uploads and downloads, The only people IMO who will get caught will be people who dont quite understand The internet enough to protect themselves.

    • Ray186

      That is exactly what they are counting on.

    • Anyone

      the courts have ruled that way

      however this is a private agreement between the MAFIAA and the ISP to sell the customers out, so it is not bound by that ruling

      the best way to do is change to an ISP that doesn’t sell out its customers to extortionists

      • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

        Actually, a legal standard is a legal standard and if this was challenged in a court of law, Six Strikes would be thrown out as being unconstitutional and an attempt by ISP’s to take police powers.

  • John

    26:30 so mad

  • Ray186

    I wonder if TorrentFreak is going to be added to their list?

  • Sandy

    united state of nazist have so manny huracanes, maybe some day one will hit and kill some of mafiaa trolls :) finger crossed

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IXEXH64S34XF2A2OHGO5C2IWII Timothy

      Hurricanes do not affect the West Coast (where California is) of the United States.

    • Kalkren

      That is pretty fucked up. Many of the people that live in the US agree with the article.

  • Mutt

    Time to change ISP or discontiune their service.

  • LadyGuest

    A Cox spokesperson previously told TorrentFreak that his company was invited but “decided not to participate for internal reasons.”

    ….Thank you! …don’t mind if I remain attached to my VPN however. ;-)

    • Adam R. Charpentier

      Cox DOES install bandwidth limits, though.

    • Who

      yep they probably are already breaking the law and don’t want to loos any more of its subscribers LOL sound like another ISP that I know of.

  • Vincent Giannell

    Verizon and the other four providers will eventually realize their actions against piracy will cause a serious problem for them.

    Users will demand the Six-Strikes Scheme to be removed or they’ll loose a lot of money through lawsuits against them.

    • Pelham123

      “Users will demand the Six-Strikes Scheme to be removed or they’ll loose a lot of money through lawsuits against them.”

      I don’t think there will be lawsuits. But there will be a ton of alternative service providers springing up to break the broadband monopoly. And people will use code-named torrents like in the Napster days (and like right now on RapidShare). And and and and …

  • Who

    who the fuck is stupid enough to download on a network with a 10gb cap? LOL
    ya and they also stated that @ the start of this month was when they would start this 6 strikes shit. but they keep pushing it back LOL as a matter of fact I remember reading that the 10th was when it was last said to start LOL.
    so go right ahead and throttle as it it will NOT stop BT.

    • EatMyBark

      Comcast has no cap, what they are doing is to stop noobs kids that know no better so in the short run it may have an impact but in the long run those same will smarten up and learn from the wise.

      • Who

        right I meant Verizon sorry I should have been more specific. kids mostly download music tho and they CAN’T SUE a kid.

        • EatMyBark

          True but they can sue there parents who have the account but I am sure the MAFFIAA would sue the kids for there piggy bank money also and whatever else they own if they had there way

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  • Who

    WTF is this bitch in this video saying? the reason Y you are sitting in that seat is because you are getting FUCKING paid for it!!
    DO YOU EVEN KNOW THAT BY DOING THIS SHIT YOU ARE BREAKING THE IPA?!!!
    so FUCK OFF YOU STUPID BITCH!!

    • EatMyBark

      This whole thing is aimed a kids and noobs that know no better or cant get vpn or proxy it may curb sharing for awhile but in the long run it will fail all it will take is a few people getting falsely accused. And a number of other factors im sure they havent taken into consideration. And yes she does appear to be stupid bitch.

  • Optizon

    I’m an Optimum (triple) customer.
    I wanted to eliminate Optimum VOIP.
    But they offered me FREE ugrade to Ultimate 50 mbps internet if I keep the VOIP.
    Gave me FREE ShowTime too. (btw Oliver Stone History show was great)
    I use VPNs always. Missed some of Oliver Stone episode and found it on U**N**.

    When big (Sandy) storm hit Optimum was out for a week (but I still had power).
    But I found open wifi thru Verizon. I have choice between Optimum and Verizon where I live.

    These companies will do anything to keep customers.
    MAFIAA don’t stand a chance. Money talks.

    btw … End of Watch is AWESOME. Great Cop Flick.
    Skyfall SUCKS SO BAD. Thank you p2p GOD!

  • Roswell1701

    Well, false positives not withstanding, I really don’t think there’s much to worry about. After viewing the video, I’m convinced none of these idiots could find their ass with both hands…

    • Optizon

      Exactly. I actually liked the video.
      It’s a plan to weed out morons.

      Yet morons have money so it will probably ignite a moron class action lawsuit.

      Pass the popcorn Anon. Want some butter?

      • Who

        and another funny as hell comment and so very true.

      • Roswell1701

        “…it will probably ignite a moron class action lawsuit.”

        LMFAO… A moron class action lawsuit. Dude, that’s GREAT! As for our resident Troll, aka Anon, I think some one pisses in his Corn Flakes every morning…

        • Who

          LOL dude it took me a half hr to stop LMFAO @ your comment. thumbs UP man

        • Anon

          The problem with you pirates is that you don’t know what good eating is. While you are all busy stealing your music and movies that other hard working people toiled to make, we are eating like Kings. You haven’t lived until you’ve had Corn Flakes and Piss. I eat it every morning and sometimes make Cream of Wheat with Piss. Mmmm Mmmm Good. Home made Piss Popsicle’s are good too.

        • nonanon
    • Who

      Nice dude I just LOL’d. ya and this bitch says she used to work for AOL…who the FUCK uses them now? and yes I know they still have a website and email but, AOL screwed a lot of people over years ago.

      • Roswell1701

        Well, let’s not be too hard on the lady. She’s actually quite intelligent. After years of study, she knows that the computer goes BEEP BEEP BEEP and the dildo goes BZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

        • Optizon

          And
          VPN = Virtual Penis Now. Go Girl.
          CCI = Corporate Cunt Intern. And
          AOL = All Outa Luck.
          (butz I gotz a job)

        • ScrewEwe2

          ROTFLMAO

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      That, i think, is part of the problem.

      If they knew what they were doing they wouldn’t even be trying.

      Either that, or like P.T. Barnum they figure they’ll take the content industry for as much as they can while the smoke and mirrors obfuscate the issue that no headway is gained.

      • Roswell1701

        I absolutely agree with the “Barnum” perspective. This is truly a dog and pony show, and these guys are definitely in it for the money. Talk about empty-headed, if any of them picked their nose for more than two minutes their skulls would cave in…

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          Well…no. The guys running the MPAA and RIAA must know the game is already up. You just don’t get to that position without the ability to read reports accurately. Similar to what every analyst working there must think.

          However, every year they can prevent the collapse is another year they can bilk Hollywood out of hard cash. Without copyright conflicts, these lawyers are suddenly obsolete, and there are a LOT of them.

          Hence the main lobby isn’t really the MPAA/RIAA, nor actually Hollywood or Sony – it’s driven by copyright lawyers who know that when the game’s up and the pony show no longer runs, they will have to get themselves an honest job instead.

          Rather than empty-headed, try “unscrupulous opportunists”. However, it’s our good fortune that because they run a scam of this kind, they more or less need to employ people of the “proper” bent not to ask questions. Which is why their mouthpieces all appear to be brain-damaged.

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    Ironically, darknets will now officially be faster.
    We can use this

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  • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

    Verizon’s fastest Internet plan costs about 300 Dollars per Month.

    For that three hundred per month, will customers tolerate the abuses, intrusions, and presumptions arising from Six Strikes?

    What’s going to be the average customer’s reaction, after he writes that three hundred dollar check only to find himself redirected against his will to a “re-education page” to be propagandized on what a “copyright criminal” he is; and, to be told that Verizon is actively “monitoring” his Internet access, without any specific judicial review or authorization; and, to be threatened with having his Internet Speed throttled or cut off on the basis of unvetted allegations, for which Verizon provides no civil recourse other than the fine print of its TOS?

    One possibility is that Verizon’s Customers are weak, uninformed, passive mushrooms who can not avail themselves of an effective legal and political defense.

    The other possibility is that Verizon’s Customers are merely distracted; rather than weak or hopeless: They ate NOT the poorest, most uneducated, permanently unemployed Americans. Quite the contrary: They are at the top tiers of American Business and Society. They are Doctors, Lawyers, Teachers, Engineers, Civil Servants, Journalists, and Business professionals. They have the financial means; and the legal and political access to take it personally when they’re abused. True, these are mostly people who have NEVER had to think of themselves as “criminals” because they shared or copied a CD. These are people who have NEVER had to fear that their sons or daughters might be defamed and sanctioned without recourse to a trial or jury. These people have not yet begun to ask themselves why or how Verizon was allowed to consolidate into a regional monopoly; or why regulator should allow Verizon to be in the Content Distribution and tele-com transmission business simultaneously. They were too busy with what monopoly banks did to their pension and housing values to be involves in the political activism that turned back PIPA, SOPA, ACTA, CISPA and TPP.

    Six Strikes has every possibility of dramaticly changing all of that.

    Why?

    Because, together, these five ISPs control 75% of the American tele-com market. That control is subject to legal challenge and political criticism under the best of times. After all, 75% of the American market amounts to roughly 250 Million Americans who at any one time might be enraged by even the smallest actions of these ISPs. Under Six Strikes, those presently distracted 250 million Americans are about to awaken to a hitherto unheard of experience of Corporate repression and abuse.

    Corporate Copyright distributors (and these ISPs) expect and hope that these Customers will take Six Strike’s repressions with a shrug.

    The historical reaction to PIPA, SOPA, ACTA, CISPA, and TPP does not support any such expectations. In a prior post, I argued that Six Strikes has the potential of producing the biggest political backlash in the history of American Politics.

    Yet, who knows: It’s up to us to be there with the right answers when those 250 million ISP customers get really serious about the right questions.

    • EatMyBark

      Like thinking with your dick the MAFFIAA is thinking with there wallet an clout and ISP’s they have bought, forced, coerced into there line of thinking. It dosent appear either have thought about all the far reaching consequences that this six strikes will bring to light. I do think they by way of IP address will try to mass sue people.
      I am kinda knew to all this so this is just from what I have gathered, liked your post.

      • Neb12

        Want t hav some fun? Let’s sue everyone that has a computer for having the potential to be a pirate! Why not?

    • evilalien

      I sure as hell hope you’re right dude.

    • Andrew me

      Just think, after all the time and money invested by the big 5 in this lunacy it takes only one case in a court to destroy the full system and put the ISP’s at risk of a class action case which would cost them more than they ever expected it to cost.
      And as a quick side-note. NO tos can override the constitution and the rights given to you unless done so by a court.

      • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

        What amazes me is that those of us who express and advocate these arguments are perpetually the isolated and ridiculed minority that can not be heard. No matter how responsibly and coherently we explain the rot that is the essence of Perpetual Copyright, we are dismissed….unheard.

        Yet, the Copyright monopolies are becoming irrelevant precisely because they have not understood their loss of legitimacy: They never even saw themselves losing all credibility with our generation until our children decided to begin ripping out their Corporate hearts.

  • Guest

    So who all isnt participating? we need a list for people can start switching ISPs if they can, lol. so far that i know of its Cox and Charter. luckly i have access to charter.
    I know they still throttle if u have high usage for long periods of time, but its not extreme like comcast.

    • EatMyBark

      Search torrenfreak for six strikes

    • Who

      I don’t think COX or Charter is involved as they are both very small, but its manly the biggest providers such as Verizon, AT&T, Comcast, Time Warner, and some others.

  • poseidon5213

    Isn’t this against fcc rules its against something I know that

  • FD

    The hole idea is full BS , first they can never 100% tell what ip downloaded and if fully downloaded and if fully watched and if he is or not account holder ….
    ANd wtf why they should be allowed to spy on people what they download/upload
    so let me then install a camera in your house and register what u saying this full bs

  • Richpeoplearetrash

    Time Warner recently introduced a $4.00 a month ‘modem rental’ fee which instantly generated a class action lawsuit. The American consumer’s sense of entitlement is a powerful force to be reckoned with. Can you imagine some customer service rep for Verizon trying to explain to some drunk hick in Arkansas that he can’t watch Netflix because his kid torrented Anal Cheerleaders 5? This is going to be a circus. I cannot wait for them to start this fiasco, the news hasn’t been funny since the Republican primaries ended. Also by the way, I don’t think Anon is some paid propagandist (or even employed anywhere), just a real sad guy with the bizarre hobby of trolling Torrentfreak for kicks. Maybe he gets disability and doesn’t have a lot of human contact. You guys should be nicer to him, he’s probably on the verge of suicide. (Or maybe he’s a site admin trying to liven up the commentary section)

    • Anon

      Well, I am NOT “Anon”, but I just made this comment to see if I could post a comment as “Anon”. If it works, I guess I can. And that means anyone else can. In addition, who would even think that a posting by someone with a simple name of “Anon” is even the same person? There is a lot of deception on the internet.

      • Scary_Devil_Monastery

        By now I’m willing to give credence to the theory that the “Anon” we are thinking of is either Gene Simmons or just a troll out to get fed, lacking any other excuse for a life.

        Either way it would be a sad thing.

    • Vamperotika1

      LMFAO!

  • Foff

    Compared to most of the rest of the world the speed in the US is already throttled. These assholes are smoking crack if they think anyone will tolerate throttling. I would never pay for throttled internet. Fortunately for me in my area there options and I will have no problem switch from isp to isp.

  • vootann

    Dude that is just not cool at all man, not cool!

    http://www.Privatized-at.tk

    • Ray186

      Has Megauploads demise taught you nothing? Never use a US based ANYTHING. A US flagged companies data is subject to a subpoena. The person who opens up a VPN company based in Venezuela, Cuba, or Iran is going to be rich.

  • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

    With respect to Six Strikes, our greatest risk is passivity; the everyday human capacity for sucking up punishment. In my worst nightmare, these Five ISPs roll out Six strikes; and, three years later the world hasn’t heard a protesting peep from the Sheep.

    If that happens, we are more fucked than we know.

    Why?

    Because, in Six Strikes, the American government has delegated its most important functions and authority to Five Monopoly ISPs in the interest of the kind of collective political control that in a democracy can ONLY be the prerogative of the sovereign State; and, should NEVER be the prerogative of Five entrenched Corporate monopolies.

    No Five Monopoly Banks should have the power to collude together to impose unified rules and conditions under which all Americans are permitted access to the American financial system. That level of collective control is the prerogative of the Sovereign State; and, can not be delegated to private parties, especially to the most powerful of private parties.

    No Five National Defense Monopoly Contractors should ever be empowered to collude together to define the conditions; or, effect the decisions under which 350 million Americans can be committed to a war. That is an exclusive function of the sovereign State. No private parties should ever be delegated to control those Sovereign functions.

    When I say that these powers and responsibilities of the Sovereign State can not be delegated to powerful private interests, I mean that they can not be so delegated without subjecting citizens to the unelected and arbitrary power of those private interests.

    This is what we have to fear in Six Strikes. If American citizens don’t see this threat of Corporate control clearly enough to treat it as something other than an afterthought, it will be wrapped around our throats more tightly and more permanently than we can imagine.

    • EatMyBark

      this is away for harvesting usage data and ip’s for another attack against every ones privacy. It is after all what the MAFFIAA wants to control the net. This is just a case study for them not law but if it it shows it can work and they lobby for law and there findings are found just…we are all screwed again by big money.

  • Assss

    Just stick to this provide until you get a strike (provided that you fulfilled your contract)

    Then as soon as you get a letter politely give them a call and tell them that this strike makes you an inferior service…from this point on until the end of tomorrow I will call everyone I know and ask them to switch providers along my side (get a few pirate friends in your city)

    Then wish them a good night/day

    When they start going bankrupt a new generation of providers will appear, employing all of the old guys who still remember WHO PUTS FOOD ON YOUR GOD DAMN TABLE.

  • Sergey

    Can’t an american simply change the ISP after such stupid things. I mean won’t this policy only encourage people to change their ISPs. If an ISP in my country sent me such a retarded warning i would only laugh and say the ISP good bye, changing it to an ISP that would respect my privacy rights.

    • Anyone

      depending on the region people might not have a choice
      the US is pretty much a third world country when it comes to broadband, because those 5 ISPs that joined this extortion scheme control most of the connections nothing gets invested and prices are way higher than in the civilized world

      it’s a cartel, plain and simple, no wonder they get along with the MAFIAA so well

    • Rmbro

      Yea, because theres an ISP that wants to be the last bunch of morons letting ALL the Pirates in the area suck away all their available bandwidth.Not only that, most major ISP’s are TV providers as well, and they LOVE how youre strealing their revenue. All you fucking criminals are destined to be sued, throttled, and cut off. Good luck scum.

      • Scary_Devil_Monastery

        Oh, look, “Anon” is back.

        Or whoever it is using “angry kitten” to come up with the random names and limp-dicked rhetoric.

        Though he does pose one valid question – MOST ISP’s would LOVE the idea to sell as much broadband to their customers as possible. If the standard subscription was a 100 Mbit connection like I have, then that about doubles or triples their revenue against a 10% increase in maintenance.

        And of course, being a “TV provider” simply means you also get to charge the actual both the consumer and the service using your cable to provide the service to your consumers.

        This “six-strike scheme” though? Do you have any idea what implementing it costs the ISP’s? In real hard cash?

        So thank you for demonstrating the bottom-barrel end of the gaussian IQ curve. You can go away now.

        • Rmbro

          Keep thinking its only one person that thinks OBEYING the law is important regarding copyright. You fucking moron. Just because an ISP offersyou 20+ Mbps pipe doesnt make it OK to steal every song, movie, and software ya Nitwit. A gun gives you the capability to rob a bank, do you? And Im “ANONYMOUS” huh? why dont you publicly admit you regularly break copyright laws, and post your name and address, bitch.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          @Rmbro

          Moron?

          I’m not the one delivering the argument as to why that uppity bitch Rosa Parks should just have shut up and sat down on the friggin’ bus. You did. But I wonder if you knew what you were saying there.

          “The law” is always and invariably tested by the people. Copyright has been failing that test for 400 years in a row and it is time it went.
          Indeed, judging by the latest numbers, you are in the decided minority to even give a rat’s ass.

          A gun would indeed give me the ability to rob a bank. Come back and tell me when “pen and paper” does the same which is the logical equivalent to filesharing tools.

          Oh, I’m sorry. Given by the way you write, you wouldn’t know what those items are either, do you?

          As for why I don’t publicly admit to regularly breaking laws, well, that would be because unlike you I am indeed not an idiot.

          That laws need breaking when said laws are unjust is, however, both a moral imperative and a necessity. It’s how humanity progresses.
          And as for this particular law – the right to make a copy – it’s hard to find laws less rooted in relevance or societal good.

          Something both Thomas Jeffersson and Milton Friedman recognized. Oh, damn, I’m sure you don’t know those names either…well, no matter.

          Why am I not surprised to see it’s only shit-for-brains neanderthals and zealots who are ever willing to step up and try to justify the existence of copyright? Could it be that smarter people aren’t dumb enough to make asses out of themselves by even trying?

        • Falsetry

          Wait until his connection is throttled and watch him cry to his ISP about being falsely accused.

      • Who

        that’s just the POINT moron.
        THEY only care about THERE revenue.

        BTW ever since P2P file sharing increased….there REVENUE ALSO INCREASED!! they have actually made OVER 9 BILLION MORE in the past few years and its because of P2P.

        ANY one defending this SHIT don’t know SHIT about TRUE copy rights.

        SO GO FUCK OFF COPY RIGHT TROLL!!

  • Chronoss2008

    you want to affect change …find out whom works for the isps and start harming them….

    invite em to an apartment for a hookup and have buds in da halway and send the fook back in a ambulance

    i bet if you start that no one will want to work for them….

  • Guest

    So the clients should cancel their “fast internet” contract.

    • Jackoutofthebox

      It wont be so fast if you are falsely accused of downloading copyrighted matierial and you are throttled or worst.

      • Andrew me

        so you might as well cancel it if you have a high speed connection. 2 meg speeds were more than enough for me to download anything i wanted, and if they are thinking of restricting speed much lower than that they are going to have a lot of useless contracts with people that might as well cancel them, and nothing they do can prevent someone canceling there account.

  • Anonymous

    if the availability of changing ISP is there, take it. perhaps if enough customers do that, the big ISPs will realise the mistake they have made by jumping into bed with an industry that pays them nothing, rather than siding with those that do pay. if that doesn’t work, the only hope is that there is a mass exodus off the internet and/or the prisons get too full of ‘file sharers’ that real criminals are able to carry on rapping and murdering to the extent that all the entertainment industries execs get caught out

  • ryukage99

    Kuddos to Cox for declining

  • Guest

    Aside from the fact that most contracts are time sensitive one of the main problems many pirates will have when it comes to changing providers is convincing their parents to do so.

  • Freedom of Speech

    Kim Dotcom should start a Mega.Net ISP business in USA. No “strikes”, no logging, no hassles – just pay your bill and get great bit transportation service!

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      Any number of venture capitalists should realize the same idea pretty soon, as soon as the six-strikes starts generating fallout.

    • Guest

      Mega.NET ICE would seize it like they did the first one!

  • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

    You guys should see the comments from someone calling themselves ‘ethicalfan’ on CNet on this same story. Same old hyper-pro-copyright bullshit that Peloser spouts and Net spouts.

  • VirginMediaSucks

    What are you all moaning at least you’re getting six strikes, Europe gets three. Virgin Media customers get none LOL, they get throttled whether they have a strike or not, but it’s called traffic management. Seems Virgin Media were ahead of the US by a good few years.

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  • joexxx

    Time to dump Verizon and Time Warner.

    • Rmbro

      Wow, u download so much free shit, you need TWO providers, eh?
      Yea, build your own network dipshit and do as you please. “time to dump verizon and time warner” What an assclown.

      • Scary_Devil_Monastery

        Pardon me for asking, but are you even sentient?

        Even cleverbot has better commentary than you provide.

        • Rmbro

          Obviously you need to pick up a dictionary.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          @Rmbro

          Let’s see….”sentience”…yes, just as I remember it.

          No, seriously, you argue like a third-rate “automated troll” script. Irrelevant one-liners, some abuse, and arguments reminiscent of a small child throwing a tantrum, using the new naughty words he’s learned with twisted glee.

          I fail to see how you could convince anyone here about anything other than your irrelevance to the entire debate. And to any fence-sitters you present a very ugly picture of what a pro-copyright advocate looks like.

          For me, being on the pirate side of things, every sentence you make is pure win.

          For which I thank you.

      • Hardlyinteligent

        You sir are a first rate idiot!

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  • rory

    Lol, I don’t approve or disapprove of dling or whatever but if these guys reduce my speed on ANYTHING…cancel button. That’s all, vote with your pockets if they do this to any of you and this “bold statement” will disappear in less than an hour. You’ll see retractions all over the place, they are too afraid anyway to do this. How many people…honestly, downloaded something with their verizon service? lol they are willing to lose all that income because they got a bailout? sheesh, why not keep the bailout and then pocket the other money as well. Morons…wait…

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BOD6T46O6RYENKPKZKR5NRQS5I jvkla

    Tip for those in the US: I got booted off my internet carrier (Charter Communications) for exceeding bandwidth. Although they never accused me directly of filesharing, they tacitly made it clear they suspected my bandwidth was being used for illicit activities, and suspended me for 6 months. Faced with few alternatives, I called Clearwire Wireless. Without my even asking about it, the rep told me “we have no bandwidth caps, use as much as you want”. Sounded good to me. I’ve been with them for 18 months now, and never had a problem. If it is slower than my Charter cable was, I haven’t noticed it.

    • Who

      ya that’s funny as I have been told by a lot of Charter users that charter swears they don’t have a data cap. but the web says other wise. LOL maybe it depends on the zone.
      I have also heard in the past that Comcast was attempting to buy charter and the FCC said no. so maybe they did buy them and to cover it up they left charter out?

      Charter doing its subscribers wrong could be also be y they never opted in to this shit.

      I also know people have left them for AT&T. and there no better when it comes to caps. they charge you for going over and yes if you go over to many times they suspend your services.

    • Andrew me

      I think most isp’s will allow people to use around 300 -400gb before starting to look at them as heavy users. I mean with all of the hd videos available all over the Internet now it would be crazy to think 500gb was a lot especially if you use your Internet connection for your tv viewing.Um i am in the UK so it might be different in the states where isps actually have packages that limit people to 5gb a month which is what i normally download in a day.

  • Mind Your OWN Business

    I can’t wait for the first ISP to fail and lose customers by the truck load. My ISP isn’t listed but if it shows up I’ll be leaving it ASAP. I’m not paying money to be monitored and punished/reprimanded by the people I’M PAYING FOR A SERVICE FOR!! What I do is none of their business and not their concern.

  • Misc

    the land of freedom, Canada, is there right beside ya, how come they always seem to be one century ahead of the USA?

    • theonlyone

      Probably because we in the USA have a fascist government bent on making money over doing whats right by the people. Simply out of control.

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  • icy`

    if they try to block youtube (one of the “popular sites”), i’m sure Google will take merciless revenge

    • Bruce Murray

      YouTube is not a peer to peer file-sharing site, you ignoramus. It is just a website.[donotfeedthetrolls]

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    Wait till one of sony’s workers downloads something on the job and the internet to sony’s HQ will be cut off. Or what about someone at a government building that downloads something p2p?

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  • ColbertsIntern

    these isp’s are biting the hand that feeds. they’re all trying to forever upsell on speed but lets face it, if the mafia’s were successful at ending all downloading that they deem as illegal tomorrow – what incentive would anyone have for paying for anything above 2 or 3mbps? Do you really think I’d pay 50 bucks more per month to stream flash videos a little faster? I think the harder they make it to download, the more people are going to cut back on what they pay for service.

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  • tonyj

    This won’t last to long. The bottom line is the all mighty Good Old American Dollar. Incremental business for Verizon, Comcast and others is to charge premium for increasing your speed on the net. Verizon cutting back speed on their customer base, customers whose need for speed are mainly pirates out of the U.S., will just decrease their profits.

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  • GUEST

    i hope all you little kiddies get what is coming to you.
    If you cant stand the heat get the hell off the internet

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  • tmc8080

    Nevertheless, is it worth hundreds of dollars for a Fiber Optic Connection to the internet when they hassle you so much.. irrespective of validiity of the notices?!?
    This is where we’re gonna see how serious it affects profits. & subscribership.. are the copyright industries going to make up this lost revenue to the ISPs? I didn’t watch the video, but I suspect that question was not asked/answered…

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  • EricPost

    I was wondering, does this only apply to individual accounts? Suppose I hate my boss? Could I download something with the purpose of HOPING to get is Internet connection slowed down? Just to hack him off, I mean?

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  • jac163

    The only programs I download are shows from the United Kingdom that are NOT available in the USA.
    I don’t download movies etc.
    Should I be penalised for wanting to watch shows like Coronation Street from my own country?
    If there was a way of paying for this service I would gladly do so, but the greedy Corporations won’t allow it!

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  • Dan

    time to switch to another company

  • Joyseyhere

    Whats the best proxy or V P N to use again the arses at verizon amazing how they have no back bone to stand up against the M P A A need something to block those idiots from reading me.

    Most comments here seem to be from M P A A supporters isn t that wonderful ?

    N O !

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  • Trustnowoman

    fuck america! we kill our own people in the twin towers, we blame it on other people. Now we are bossing peoples freedom to go where they want on the internet, that also means that the powers that be are WATCHING/MONITORING us and our every movement, and action. And YOU all let it get to this point. FIGHT THE POWER!!!!
    HACK BACK!!!!
    ACTIVISM!!!!

  • Fuckkkkkkk

    If record companies would actually make a product that is far superior in sound than vinyl in terms of giving the consumer their money’s worth when buying an artists album … than I’d definitely be more supportive in buying albums in whatever new format they come up with instead of downloading them for free!

    But no way in hell am I’m going to purchase a bunch of low bitrate mp3s or even cds for that matter because you aren’t getting the MASTER TAPE SOUND the artist intended of any album unless you buy a well made vinyl album and have a $1000+ record player. Not even SACD or BLU-RAY digita; SRS sound can compare to the infinte bitrate of vinyl.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Scooter-Livingston/100000347103475 Scooter Livingston

    How do you spell “cunt”? J-I-L-L L-E-S-S-E-R.

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