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Why ACTA Lives Or Dies With The Vote In The European Parliament

The draconian ACTA agreement is coming to a global showdown. In the United States, Congress won’t have a say in its ratification. In many small countries, citizens are rightfully furious. But it is in Strasbourg, in the European Parliament’s session on July 2-5, that ACTA will ultimately live or die.

A trade agreement such as ACTA can only be enforced by a larger economy against a smaller, for two reasons. First, the preferred means of enforcement is trade embargoes or penalizing tariffs – and when one part enforces those against a mutual trade road, both economies suffer, but the smaller suffers more.

To take a real-world example, the United States’ embargo against Cuba hurt Cuba immensely, but barely the United States at all (save for the sudden absence of decent cigars). Also, Cuba would have been hurt just as much, if Cuba had initiated the trade embargo. A larger economy can hurt a smaller, but not the other way around.

The second reason is also the second method of enforcement, which would be military. A larger economy can ultimately impose its terms of trade on a smaller economy by the rattling of weapons, where the larger economy will have the resource advantage.

ACTA has been designed as a global treaty, and yet only two of the world’s three largest economies have been involved in its creation. China, #3, has been left out of negotiations – which is odd, given that ACTA is designed as an anti-counterfeiting agreement, and all of the countries known for counterfeit goods have been left out of the agreement. That leaves economies #1 and #2.

The ACTA agreement is primarily being pushed by trade representatives and industries in economy #2.

(The three largest economies of the world are, in descending order, the European Union, the United States, and China.)

As we have already seen, the world’s #2 economy – the United States – cannot impose its will on the world’s #1 economy – the European Union – through trade sanctions, and military action is politically and economically impossible. Therefore, if the European Union should choose to tell ACTA and its proponents to take a hike, it is effectively dead in the entire world, regardless of who else signs it in economy #4 or smaller. But if the US and EU were to agree voluntarily on this agreement, the combined economic power of the two largest economies will be plenty enough to bring everybody else in line.

There is exactly zero chance of the United States voluntarily backing out of ACTA, declaring it unconstitutional, ineffective, or whatever other negative term. Every legal body that would have had the compentence to do so – including Congress – have been kept out of the loop. This show goes down in the European Union.

Fortunately, nobody can keep this treaty from coming to a vote on the floor of the European Parliament, in the one elected body of the world’s largest economy. That happens some time in the parliamentary session of July 2-5.

No matter what you may have heard, ACTA is not dead. This beast is very much alive and for every cent us liberty activists spend on throwing it out, the corporations who want to own our culture and knowledge spend thousands on getting it passed. If you think you can sit back and relax now, those corporations couldn’t be better off – for they are moving in for the kill, lobbying-wise, as the final vote approaches in early July. If us activists consider the battle over, we will lose something that will take decades to repair once we’ve even started repairing it.

The good news is, that with the SOPA battle in the United States, we learned how to do this. We know that we can make a difference. When I spoke to the office of a Member of European Parliament (MEP) last week, they told me that one mail every other minute is practically a deafening torrent of citizens, impossible to avoid (unlike lobbyists). We know that 30 mails per minute – polite, honest, courteous, personal mails – is a pigshit number compared to what we can accomplish when we really get organized. Also, of course, we can (and should) call those MEP offices as the vote appears, in addition to mailing them.

We can win this. We know that we can win this. But we will not win it without fighting. We are only winning, barely winning, because of the demonstration of strength in the February 11 rallies. Now’s when we need to keep that up.

Last week ended well with three key committees recommending that the European Parliament reject ACTA as a whole. There are three votes left. The first is the vote in the Development Committee (DEVE) tomorrow (Monday), which will vote on whether ACTA adversely impacts third world health. Yeah, we know it does, but several bureaucrats are prepared to overlook that problem or whitewash it. It is our job to make them understand that we’re holding them accountable. You should let them know you care, whether you live in Europe or not.

The second vote happens on June 20. It is the final vote before the European Parliament floor. On June 20, the INTA committee – the committee responsible for international trade, and therefore “owning” the question of ACTA within the European Parliament – will summarize the opinions of the previous committees, mix in its own, and recommend the European Parliament as a whole to vote yes or no to ratifying the treaty.

That final, crucial vote happens some time in the July 2-5 parliament session in Strasbourg. That’s where ACTA lives or dies.

As the two next crucial votes approach, I’ll take the liberty to remind you here on TorrentFreak and on my own blog. For now, make sure to send a mail to those DEVE committee members!

About The Author

Rick Falkvinge is a regular columnist on TorrentFreak, sharing his thoughts every other week. He is the founder of the Swedish and first Pirate Party, a whisky aficionado, and a low-altitude motorcycle pilot. His blog at falkvinge.net focuses on information policy.

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  • Steve Smith

    “China, #3, has been left out of negotiations – which is odd, given that ACTA is designed as an anti-counterfeiting agreement,” 
    Not really consider that companies in china steal idea’s of other countries company’s and claim it as their own and Chinese gov rarely decides against against them. Hence reason they were left out as they wouldn’t do anything to follow it to start with. not saying acta is a good thing either.

    • http://falkvinge.net/ Rick Falkvinge

      China does what is best for China’s economy. It would not be far-fetched to say that this is even the very responsibility of its government.

      • mwhahaha

        Devil’s advocate time:

        CEOs do what’s best for their company’s economy (value, stock price, health). It would not be far fetched to say this is the very responsibility of corporate heads.

        • Pianogamer

           This dilema is called “tragedy of the commons”:
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons
          The question is, does the short term profit also mean long-term viability? Or is it sacrificed? By yourself, or the collective? We saw recently a collapse, where only indidual CEOs fled the scene with money parachutes… everyone else? ****ed. I’m not a China expert, but they seem to be planning their economy pretty long term.

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        • ndmushroom

          @disqus_Qrz0CYAQne:disqus
          So? No one’s blaming the CEOs for wanting what’s best for their company. The issue is the framework in which the CEOs are allowed to operate. And that’s defined by the lawmakers, i.e. the politicians. If a CEO screws the entire country over so that his company can make a profit, I won’t blame the CEO. I’ll blame the politician who allowed for this to happen, putting someone’s interest before the interest of his country.

        • Anonymous

          Indeed. Adam Smith expressed this the best I think. This is where consumer action in a free market then presses the CEO’s to make decisions which further long-term growth of the company rather than short-term profit.

          And if the companies can not adapt to the consumer market, said companies die out.

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    • US-Gov-Sucks

      Why limit innovations to one company, or to companies that buy licenses to reproduce it, when others can make it cheaper?

      The copyright / patent industry needs to go

      • http://falkvinge.net/ Rick Falkvinge

        Yes. Well said.

        I sometimes say that the copyright monopoly can roughly be divided into two halves. The first half is harmful, the other half is useless.

        I’m focusing on getting rid of the harmful, for the next generation to get rid of the useless.

        As for the patent monopolies, there’s nothing but harmful.

        • mwhahaha

          I think the patent system is utterly unfair and at times downright crooked. I do think we need a fairer system which gives everybody the benefits of new things whether they be medicines, movies or machines. 
          However you do still need *some* form of protection for the people/companies who are spending many years and many £/$ in creating something to benefit us all. If not, then where’s the incentive for people to work towards these things? Where’s the reward? Do they still have to work a 9-5 job whilst doing this stuff at home?

          I’m not against copyright as a concept, I am however against its length and scope in many areas. If you can’t see its core value then you’re myopic or maybe just so angry with how the law for copyright works you want to scrap it all together. 

          Either way an end to copyright would be disaster (unless we wake up tomorrow in a socialist utopia).

          Take for an example new medicines for illness. The companies in that sector are downright bastards at times, and they do need reigning in, their profits slashing and their attitudes to developing nations changed.

          But if these bastard companies don’t fund research and trials into new medicines then who does? The govt? At a time when western govt’s are moving further and further away from having responsibility for any policy area they can sell off to private firms?

          Another example: The Avengers film. A great film, which millions upon millions have enjoyed. Which cost millions upon millions to make. Yes, the people at the top end of that industry earn way too much for what is for them a dream job but if on the day of DVD release one copy gets sold and everyone else pirates it because there’s no copyright protection, then the film can’t afford to get made.

          Unless of course we end up with a world wide version of the BBC publicly funded (a tax) or PBS (contributions by individuals and low quality output). Neither of these options appeals to me regardless of how much I think the movie industry needs a slap in the face and a kick in the fork.

          We need a sensible, thoughtful and reasonable copyright legislation around the world. One which allows people to be paid for creating the next generation of live saving medicines, groovy gadgets, fantastic movies, insightful books and banging tunes. We also need that legislation to prevent these industries from becoming bullies who have the licence to go after every nickel they think they’re owed, damaging people’s lives and tying up legal systems at the cost to us all.

          You talk about the next generation, well I want my kids to grow up in a world with fantastic books and films which capture their imagination and inspire them, I hope to god they have cancer and AIDS beating drugs and without copyright they might be deprived of these things.

          We have to meet half way on this. By standing on the far left of this argument Rick you can only look like a zealot and a fool. If you could create some socialist paradise I’d be right there with you, but sadly we live in a world dominated by Adam Smith rather than Karl Marx and we have to work within the limitations which the world gives us.

        • http://falkvinge.net/ Rick Falkvinge

          @disqus_Qrz0CYAQne:disqus : Your argument assumes that nobody will research or be creative unless granted monopolies of this kind (and goes to quite some length to describe that argument).

          However, this argument is not supported by studies. Actually, studies show the opposite to be true. Further, there is no connection that monopolies are required for profit, which you also write.

          In summary, the “if they don’t get patents, how will we get our medicines?” is an argument that makes a half-dozen of false assumptions of connections that simply aren’t there when looking at hard data from research.

          Same thing with culture.

          Cheers,
          Rick

        • Guest

           Opposite really happens.
          Thanks to copyright a lot of companies are unable to really innovate because in the process to create something new and better they run into trouble with the copyrights and the patents.
          It also gets in the way of startups.
          Or they get used as legal weapons.
          The companies with the copyrights never really benefit from it in the way it is supposedly intended and society as a whole will never see a benefit of them.

        • God Bless Auntie Beeb

          @disqus_Qrz0CYAQne:disqus You talk against the licence fee as if the way the BBC is funded is a bad thing. As a UK citizen, I can honestly say we have the best TV in the world, and believe me I have pirated a lot of other stuff. While there are good shows on other channels, and a lot of good stuff from the states, commercial tv both sucks and blows compared to the beeb. A compulsary £10 (ish) per month for the best TV channels (4 channels plus huge web content plus other digital media, let alone radio content)? I wouldn’t do without it.

      • Anonymous

        Others could only offer something cheaper because they didn’t invest anything into the creation.

        Would a currently innovative company even bother treading first if it meant everyone else was able to jump on the freebie bandwagon ? What was preventing those companies from taking all the risks ?

         

        • http://falkvinge.net/ Rick Falkvinge

          This argument has no basis in research.

          The fashion industry, which is one of the most plagiarized on the planet, also has one of the highest rates of innovation.

          Cheers,
          Rick

        • Anonymous

          “This argument has no basis in research.”

          Who’s research ?

          “The fashion industry, which is one of the most plagiarized on the planet”

          Agreed

          “also has one of the highest rates of innovation.”

          “I question their innovation, fashion houses and mass market fashion companies do have a habit of re-hashing previous style trends. But so we don’t dwell on opinion of fashion innovation, we’ll agree they are genuinely innovative. Fashion is cyclical, annually and over time, therefore it has an induced obsolescence. There aren’t any R+D costs for a pair of Jeans for example (and if there are they are miniscule). R+D for a new battery technology on the other hand runs into the billions before a penny is made. Those industries (and others like them) do not operate in an annual 5/6 season product release environment with potential recurring use of trends from decades past.

        • Fredrika

          > “Others could only offer something cheaper because they didn’t invest anything into the creation.”

          That’s how the free market works. Do you have a problem with the free market? Are you advocating communism or a planned economy?

          > “Would a currently innovative company even bother treading first if it meant everyone else was able to jump on the freebie bandwagon ?”

          Companies do not innovate, people do. If companies want to expand and make more money than other companies they will have to invest in people and new ideas, regardless of if legislative monopolies exist or not. That’s how the free market works. They do not have a choice.

          Over and over again through out history it has been proven by successful entrepreneurs that it is indeed fully possible to innovate and profit from it without legislative monopolies as patents or copyright, thanks to the human race’s amazing innovative business mind in combination with greed and brand value protected by trademarks, which no one suggests a dismantling of.

          That you do not understand how this is going happen, instead asking others to explain it to you displays your free mentality that believes it’s the responsibility of others to give you functioning business models that do not rely on legislative monopolies, and this only proves that you are a weak failed entrepreneur that can’t handle yourself on the free market.

          You are therefore excused, society does not need weak failed entrepreneurs that display a free mentality such as yours.

        • Anonymous

          You are offering a false argument here. If that were true, where did Linux, Android, and Darwin come from? How come the open source sector today supplies 90% of the software running on servers?

          In almost any and every industry today you are looking at an roi of 100%+ within the year or your investment has, basically, failed. This holds even more true for home electronics where the time span is something like four months.

          Generally speaking any company which invents anything would be the company best able to market their product for the first few years as reverse engineering and expertise takes time to develop. Patents and licenses simply aren’t relevant at all for roughly 99% of all products invented.

          And for the inventors themselves in real practice IP is more of a weapon against them than for them, since you can not fight an IP battle in court without forking over millions of dollars in lawyer costs and fees to start with.

          Indeed, looking at the latest two decades you can find ample evidence only that patents and licenses actively obstruct and hinder development.

      • Nasta

         Well, the problem comes when certain inventions take several years and millions in R&D expenditures. If those are not protected by patents, then every other company would be free to just reverse-engineer, produce and sell as their own, without doing R&D. Less expenses also means that those companies could afford to sell at lower prices (10-50 times lower is not unheard of in pharmaceutical industry for example). If they sell the same product for lower price, they would also grab most (if not all) of the market share, and the company who originally invented would not be able to even cover its R&D expenses, let alone make a profit. Now, given this scenario, why would any company then even bother making such inventions? They won’t.

    • http://cheapassfiction.com/ Aelius Blythe

      Of course they do.  If China didn’t “steal” ideas, they wouldn’t simply not have access to a huge amount of goods.  The price of foreign products, even China-made foreign products and (stupidly) ideas is prohibitively high here.  
      They also **have** to claim them as their own because to not do so would open them up to legal attacks from the foreign businesses who want to extort money and don’t care about charging a price way beyond what the average Chinese person can afford.  

      But, yeah you’re right that it’s not really a huge surprise that they were left out of the negotiations, since I’m sure they really, really don’t give a fuck that most non-counterfeit goods are out of reach of most Chinese people.  It’s not a particularly altruistic agreement.

      • Glib

        You seem to forget the two way road; basically, ignoring the entire other direction.  China steals our technology and makes it cheaper?  I’d say that’s possible, but do you live in Europe or north america and think that is actually a problem? Do you know ANYONE that owns a cheap Chinese knockoff of something that we can actually buy the “real version” of?

        What about that we develop the technology and China manufactures ALL of it so we can afford it.  Without China, your iPhone would cost like $1,500 … PC would be like $2k, if you could even find a facility capable of manufacturing them without being shut down for human rights violations.

        If China magically disappeared tomorrow, it would absolutely cripple the US.  Even if ACTA was signed by the EU and US, they couldn’t even scratch China because they make EVERYTHING WE OWN; who gets the shitty end of the stick when you try to tariff a country that makes every piece of technology everyone wants, and whose culture is so dedicated?

        • http://cheapassfiction.com/ Aelius Blythe

          “China steals our technology and makes it cheaper?  I’d say that’s possible, but do you live in Europe or north america and think that is actually a problem? Do you know ANYONE that owns a cheap Chinese knockoff of something that we can actually buy the “real version” of?”
          I live in China.  And I’m not really sure what you’re trying to say here, my point is that it ISN’T a problem… And yes, I know it goes both ways.  A lot of people in the West do buy knockoffs, and this is also a good thing – they’re (usually) buying knockoffs because they can’t afford, and weren’t going to, buy the original anyway.  

          Additionally, while it’s true China’s hold on the US economy could seriously hurt the US, (and therefore could also be used as a negotiating tool,) this goes both ways as well.  The US already can, and does, hurt China by moving production elsewhere.  It is likely that an embargo or tariffs on Chinese products would probably be very, very damaging to China as well as the US.  We are both vulnerable, and that probably should have been taken into account.

        • Danny

          A PC wouldn’t cost $2k. We get some single board PCs made in the UK. The ICs are mainly fabbed in the US and we make the fully populated boards for around £150.

          The boards have a ARM cortex A8 in them made by TI and are very powerful, the DSP can render 1080p from mkv files and browsing the net on the PCs is smooth and nice. The board has WiFi, LAN, Audio, SDHC, HDMI/DVI, VGA, 6 USB, etc, etc.

          So this is a fully featured PC for under £200 manufactured in the UK with most of the ICs fabbed in the US. Where does $2k come from?

      • Anonymous

        the majority of goods produced in China are as good as and last as long as the ones they copied from whilst selling for a fraction of the price. that isn’t just because of the difference in the standard of living, wages etc, but also seems to show that an item doesn’t have to cost $10 when one of $1 is just as good. 99% of the time, we in the West pay well over the top just for a brand name, not the quality or reliability of something. considering most things for the West are made in factories in China or another Asian country, for a pittance compared to the cost in the West, (including multiple brands made at the same place), what does that tell you? a good example is Apple. minimum production costs, minimum wages paid, minimum shipping costs, maximum selling price, maximum profit. how much would they charge for an iphone if it was made in the US? a hell of a lot more than now because they would want to keep their profit at the same level, even though there were less sold!

      • Anonymous

        “Of course they do.  If China didn’t “steal” ideas, they wouldn’t simply not have access to a huge amount of goods.”

        You’d be surprised, I think. The Chinese invented capitalism some 3000-4000 years ago and remain the most entrepreneurial people in the world. And there has not ever been an acceptance in chinese culture for the concept of “intellectual property”. When a chinese entrepreneur looks at stable investment s/he looks at land and not much else. Ideas, patents, bonds – these have all been tried in the past and basically the chinese market philosophy estimates this as a sort of scam where the importance is in getting in while the going’s good and getting out before it turns bad. The assumption is that if you play a crooked game, ensure you are the one best at cheating.
        I think I’ve written this before – China has always wanted to take back it’s place as the center of the world. In the 50′s they decided to become the one biggest producer and exporter of goods. This is now accomplished. In sheer desperation the US tried a new tack – being unable to compete in manufacture, they went for being the biggest patent holder instead, making Intellectual property the basis for the US “industry”.

        Honestly, I think the Chinese must have crowed in delight. While thanks to IP research in the US has become overly costly and cumbersome with every research effort needing an entire legal team to analyze it before you could even start, China doesn’t enforce IP internally very well. Ensuring that China is a frantic hotbed of innovation in comparison. At the same time China is busily accumulating patent portfolios which means twenty years from now the US will be similarly shot in the foot on the markets concerning IP as they are in manufacturing – thanks to the laws they wrote themselves.

        As far as the massive quality of chinese knock-offs as compared to the brand labels there’s a very easy answer – The plants being commissioned to produce the brand name goods usually have surplus material left over after the commissioned runs. These they produce and sell at local pricing to retailers, without the brand. That’s why many knockoffs today are just as good as the originals.

    • Carlo Cafiero

      Dear Mr Smith,
      only what is legally and materially OWNED can be stolen.
      To OWN something you need a legal right claiming PROPERTY.
      Property can be meaningfully defined only if the owner can enforce the right to EXCLUDE others from consumption/use.
      And here I go to the point: you wrote “China steal’s ideas”. This sentence contains the biggest error human mind can make, and which is made only BECAUSE of the mistaken presumption that IDEAS can be subject to the same economic laws as material objects.
      Ideas are non material “objects” that do not get destroyed when consumed (as opposed to any material object) and whose “production” does not require direct consumption of material inputs (as what economists call “services” do).
      Therefore, the economic concept of “trade” on which all arguments about the efficiency of “markets” based on well defined property rights, simply cannot be meaningfully applied to ideas, Similarly, it makes no sense to “steal” an idea.
      Of course, recognizing the originator of an idea is a decent thing to do, but I wonder if corporations who “own” the idea the chinese allegedly “steals” do that…
      Respectfully,
      Carlo Cafiero, PhD economics, UC Berkeley 2002, 

    • Tsunku

       imagine this if you will, acta gets passed, china then decides to stop doing business with american and european countries that signed acta, all products’ prices will overnight inflate heavily. sadly there are those who want acta signed cuz they want that, they are betting heavily for it to happen cuz in their warped minds, inflated prices means more money to them but because they are warped they don’t see  they themselves will be spending more too and their gains won’t be worth a crap. as for the world that allowed acta, they’ll be screwed even worse, roadblocks to inspect your car for illegal files, house searches for illegal files. as for americans, we’ll probably end up  in a civil war over acta as many of us believe in and try to protect the constitution which acta clearly violates. btw the usa govt is forbidden to sign treaties that circumvent the constitution but ron kirk doesn’t know this or even care as long as he can get his photo op.
      i can only pray that the next president immediately fires ron kirk and has him arrested from treason.

    • Anonymous

      None of the BRIC countries are on board with ACTA. In other words the “anti-counterfeiting treaty” is all negative.

    • Anonymous

       China was purposely kept out of ACTA as this whole ACTA is about my Nation Control and about doing whatever to limit China Nation.My Nation of USA obviously has no Respect at all for the Chinese nor for you  guys in Europe.You are all being used as Pawns in a Politcally Motivated Game.

  • Neotoasty

    Very well spoken as always, Rick.

    However, I fear for the idea that corporations will still continue proposing similar ideas down the road. I only hope in the end that these demonstrations and the performances these proposed bills have been posted up. Will be a crucial lesson to be learned.

    If it passes, I’ll have to continue my hopelessness for humanity.

    • http://falkvinge.net/ Rick Falkvinge

      Corporations will absolutely continue to demand the world in the most shameless way, and throw ridiculous tantrums when they don’t get their way.

      What we have to do is to teach politicians the consequences of listening to them in a way that cannot be unlearned.

    • Anonymous

      Darn, we need a full on revolt!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000617943487 Máté Bikfalvi

    E-mail sent to everyone on that mailing list. I hope ACTA will be booted and if it won’t I won’t be lazy this time and go out to protest too.

  • Therealdraconite

    What can those of us outside of the EU do?
    I can’t imagine anyone in the EU taking a foreigner seriously.

    • http://falkvinge.net/ Rick Falkvinge

      You’d be surprised. Also, this is the DEVE committee we are talking about, which specifically deals with third world development and foreign aid – by definition, outside of the EU.

      Cheers, Rick

  • Chilly8

    China’s attitude on this is very much like one alternate history where there is a second cold war, where China, and its allies, on one side, decide they are not going to recognise western copyrights, and tell the west to take a hike.

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  • http://7-books.net/ SleepyJohn

    I have yet to find a definitive answer to this simple question: Who in the EU actually decides whether ACTA is signed or not? The Parliament or the Executive? Or someone else I have never even heard of?

    Is a decision by the Parliament unequivocally legally binding on the Commission – ie can the Parliament order the Commission to carry out its instructions regardless of what the Commission wants – or can the unelected executive Commission quietly override the wishes of the elected Parliament, perhaps quoting sub-sub-para 123454321/more/than/meets/the/eye/01 of some obscure law about something else entirely?

    Last I heard, decisions made by the Parliament are not actually binding on the Commission, whatever the PR department of the EU would have us believe. But there is so much obfuscation in so many endless EU missives that a simple soul like me cannot possibly figure out who actually has the ultimate decision-making power in the EU – ie who can pull a biro from his shirt and sign this thing. (Or more accurately, who can give that person the order to do so).

    Can you help out here, Rick?

    • http://falkvinge.net/ Rick Falkvinge

      Who decides what and how varies with the type of dossier. This has been presented as a so-called mixed agreement under the rules of the Nice treaty (the previous EU constitution, so to speak), which means that it must be approved by the European Parliament and the parliament of every member state.

      That’s not enough, of course; it must also be presented to those parliaments for ratification, which is yet another decision, taken by the Commission and/or Council. But my point is that a rejection by the European Parliament is enough in the case of ACTA.

      In other cases, like directives, a so-called codecision procedure is invoked, where parliament basically is asked to agree until it agrees as measured by tougher and tougher criteria.

      Cheers,
      Rick

  • Asdf

    I was just wondering where those boldened words came from when I noticed it’s from cool guy Rick F.

  • Guest

    I’m praying for you Europe, you’re the world’s hope.
    Please save us from this mess.
    Sincerely, a  concerned citizen of the world.

  • Guest

    I think that there are many points to consider, and rather than really considering the individual problems, everything is treated as a whole.  I think that things like ACTA, PIPA, and SOPA just try to bundle everything together and offer a form of censorship to those who are in power.  Politicians are either stupid and cannot see the possibilities that the proposals hold, or are intelligent and power-hungry.  Both types of politicians exist and both types are pushing for censorship.

    • Guest

      I work in the legal business and I can tell you, they are not dumb and naive.
      Passing laws in a rush, at odd hours or certain times of the year or in big bundles is common practice to approve laws which would meet opposition from the rest of society.
      It is really, really common and almost universal in every nation.
      In my country they often try and succeed passing laws around national holidays or even very late, there’s even a famous law that was met with opposition from most parties that was finally  passed at 4 am january 1 when most people were having fun and busy.
      Crazy reality we live on.

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  • The Muss

    All these complex things,  social problems…

    yet in the most simplest form we  get   “biggest, fittest will survive”

    once you’re big enough, you’re small again… so the fight goes on 

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/EU3FP6ALBOYVUDR6Z7GUQYGY2Q Mike N

    you know how to slow down piracy most ppl burn their dvds or use a ps3 or xbox or any other media player to play their movies. So why not Cinavia protect all movies and have all future devices and future updates to add cinavia. 

    • Anonymous

      Because the only thing that happens after that is that the open source sector releases firmware versions which disable cinavia.

      Any process running on my computer or any firmware which does not meet my approval will be replaced with something which does. That’s the way it is with most geeks.

      And said geeks then create a one-button installer which deletes the offensive ability from the media players and consoles. It’s that simple.

      It’s been tried, Mike, and it hasn’t worked.

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  • YARIGHT

    HEY EVERYONE YOU REALIZE IF YOU ELECTED ENOUGH ANTI ACTA PEOPLE THE NEXT PARLIAMENT WOULD BE FORCED TO KILL IT
    SO THINK

    • Guest

       Yes! Let’s do democracy. 
      I want to see the pirate party in the parliament and our children living in a better world.

  • foff

    Why is everyone in the world so convinced copyrights and patents are so necessary when we have never tried it the other way.  And these protections are a modern invention and serve mostly to protect corporate interests not individuals.  It might possibly be that without these artificial protections inventions and creations would increase at a huge rate.  Because creators could not sit on their asses and collect revenues from inventions for long periods of time but would be forced to continually create new inventions.

    In the case of media.  Movies are created to be shown in theaters not with dvd sales in mind so how many they may or may sell is irrelevant.  I know of no case where revenues from a movie in a theater did not go back to the distributor so adequate protections are in place.  Not even counting dvd sales a good movie makes a billion or more.  

    In what 15 years of fighting alleged online copyright infringement.  Nothing the maafia has ever done in the entire history of the internet has ever demonstrated that piracy has any effect at all on either theater receipts or dvd sales.  There is simply no link and basis for the lost sale theory.

    • Anonymous


      Why is everyone in the world so convinced copyrights and patents are so necessary when we have never tried it the other way. ”

      I beg to differ. Copyright is relatively new. Most of human history never saw copyright in any other form of information control enforced by the state. Copyright today is informatiob control enforced by private interests but is otherwise exactly the same.

      So…we have tried a society without copyright. It works just fine.

  • Jimbo

     i sure hope that ACTA is well and truly destroyed in these EU votes. the problem is that there is still CISPA in the US, TPP just about everywhere plus whatever else can be thought up to be introduced that will achieve exactly the same as ACTA but in a more round about way. those that want this and every other similar bill introduced want to get back/keep the levels of control and income they have become accustomed to having over the years and are not going to give a toss about what else happens, good or bad, to anyone, anywhere, until they get it. what the EU needs to realise is that it is the dominant party here but until it shows what it is made of, it will always be defeated because it doesn’t have/show the aggression required until it’s backed into a corner. the US, however, shows no restraint  and is extremely aggressive towards those that dont comply with it’s demands, even when it concerns so-called allies. the EU also needs to recognise that this and all similar bills do little if anything to protect or help any industry, corporation, business or individual other than those in or to do with the US. there is scant interest in anything non-US or the consequences to anything non- US. the warnings are there, i hope there are taken notice of. somehow i doubt it and think the ‘brown envelopes’ that will be flying around will become the most important thing for the politicians that have the votes! sorry Rik. cant trust them!!

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  • anon

    9fags with signs.

  • Chilly8

    This would be the time of year to try and slip it through, since anyone googling ACTA will also get a lot of hits for baseball player Manny Acta.

    • blah

      not if you google acta -manny

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  • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

    Actually, you might want to check that “Congress won’t have a say” comment in the article. Congress has been spluttering in rage that the White House has dared to say that a TREATY (which is what this thing equates to) doesn’t have to be ratified by them.

    • Guest

      Sputtering, but not many are actually taking the actions they could to force the issue.

  • Anonymous

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  • Michele Hostetler

    Effective enforcement of intellectual property rights is critical to sustaining economic growth across all industries and globally. The Eurozone is in a tailspin, and these economic problems are only exacerbated by the proliferation of counterfeit and pirated goods. Enacting ACTA would stop the above mentioned problems, and help put the EU back on the road to recovery.

    • Guest

      False: Something close to 90% of counterfeit goods are produced by non-signatories that have no reason to ever bow to ACTA. Further, the provisions in ACTA are poorly defined and will not actually change much of the current laws in the EU. All it will do is prevent the EU from restructuring its economy around resources that are more stable than “Intellectual Property.”

      In other wrods, allowing ACTA to enter into force in the EU would only ensure that this tailspin becomes a crash.

  • http://7-books.net/ SleepyJohn

    Red telephone boxes in English villages are critical to sustaining economic growth across all industries and globally. The Eurozone is rapidly spinning into the control of Germany, and these economic problems are only exacerbated by the decreasing numbers of red telephone boxes in English villages. Enacting ACTA would, by enabling continent-wide riots, stop the above mentioned problems, and put the EU back on the road to democracy.

  • Chilly8

    I think there will be an even bigger push by the Americans for ACTA and TPP now. With a proposed ITU mandate on internet taxes that would only apply to content coming from American sites, the entire web presence will move outside the USA to avoid this ITU tax.

    The Americans will not be too happy about this when they find that copyright laws become that much harder to enforce, so look for a bigger push for SOPA, ACTA, TPP, PIPA, CISPA, and others once the ITU approves this new America-only internet tax, in December.

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