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Will The Chinese BitTorrent Crackdown Boost Criminals?

Recently it became clear that Chinese authorities were going ahead with their planned video site purge. Many BitTorrent sites fell including some of the country’s largest, but of course none of this changes the demand for free or near-free media. So will the crackdown force those seeking cheap movies back onto the streets?

In March 2007, TorrentFreak interviewed a guy who since the 1990′s had been making his living from commercial piracy. Starting off with PC software and later Playstation games, ‘Tony’ made a very good income from illicit sales at the UK’s markets and pubs.

As demand grew Tony’s business expanded year after year, but by 2001 and although still busy, profits were being squeezed. By 2004 demand started to fall dramatically and in 2005 he had to close down his factory unit. Tony told TorrentFreak there was a new competitor in town.

“File-sharing, P2P – call it what you like. When you asked a customer why he wasn’t buying anything, 9 times out of 10 it was ‘BitTorrent this, LimeWire that’. Add that to the fact that huge numbers of PC users have burners and fast broadband and it’s obvious why I had to get out and earn a living another way. We had it good for a while but I don’t think those days are coming back.”

Cheap pirate media had just got even cheaper. With the advent of super-fast broadband there was little point in visiting the local counterfeiter when everything was just a few clicks away for free on increasingly user-friendly BitTorrent and other file-sharing sites. But what happens to the physical piracy market when the file-sharing sites are no more? Maybe China is about to find out.

During the last month Chinese authorities shut down hundreds of video sites, including some of the biggest BitTorrent trackers such as BTChina, for operating without an appropriate government license.

Now, according to a Chinese illegal DVD vendor, these shutdowns could be set to bring him and his competitors a sudden windfall – the exact mirror image of what happened to Tony several years ago.

“Pirated DVDs are the cheapest choice for people without free downloads online,” he said. “I expect my sales to triple before Christmas.”

While it’s still early days, officials in charge of clearing illicit vendors from the streets said that they had not yet witnessed a surge in demand for illegal DVDs. A spokesman for a Chinese IP lawfirm said that while there could be an increased demand short-term, file-sharers are resilient.

“Simply shutting down those websites might have an immediate impact, but where there’s a will, there’s a way,” he said. “The problem is, if you shut down the top two BitTorrent sites, then people are simply going to go to number three, number four or number five on the list,” he said. “You can cut off the head but sooner or later two more will grow back.”

Time will tell if an Internet crackdown on video sites will force customers back onto the streets, but perhaps more intriguing is the answer to this question – will it push them back into the arms of the legitimate vendors of movies and music? It seems unlikely.

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  • kabuki0009

    I’m sure they’ll be back on the street in no time.

  • Duh

    The article says it in the end you cut the head off and 2 grow except for the case of this about 20 grow :)

  • 000

    Haha, the Chinese authorities will be directly responsible for commercial piracy.. what a stupid world we live in :D

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  • Ninja

    It’s obvious that it doesn’t work. As it’s wisely said in the article, people will migrate to the cheapest alternatives if P@P is completely shut down.

    In my case, I refuse to buy stuff from such people on the streets. Many of them get the media from criminal organizations and supply such people with money. But I won’t buy legal stuff either since I also refuse to buy stuff without trying it to the fullest (which in games includes playing it till the end for instance).

    As for those people, with the per capita income of the Chinese below 1100 USD I doubt there’ll be any relevant increase in digital media consumption…

    So in the end the media industry loses and the real criminals win with this anti-p2p crusade all around the world.

  • Dictator

    All hail the worthless tunnelvision of politicians!

    Why not try to legalise p2p or invent better hassle-free alternatives?

    i wonder if the politicians ever came in contact with this so called ‘illegally’ procured material..hmm…

  • CCC

    the Chinese people now use to the free option , I doubt that they will go back to buy pirate dvd . there are still a lot of bt site out side china that they can use.

  • Anonymous

    It’s likely that street sales will increase but China, like many eastern nations, already has a huge market for physically pirated goods. It’s easy to find people selling stuff literally on the streets, something that the west sees less frequently. I guess the authorities don’t crack down on it that hard.

  • Anonymous

    yes it will

  • jack

    “Haha, the Chinese authorities will be directly responsible for commercial piracy.. what a stupid world we live in :D”

    Yep, that is the first thing that came to mind when I read this. Great article by the way.

    Nigel

  • \\.neo.styles|sSG

    I doubt it. After people have tried digital piracy, they will probably never go back to physical bootlegging, due to it’s ease. They will just switch to out of country torrent sites.

  • Anonymous

    All my favorite Chinese software download sites are still up.

    Seems the crackdown was just on video sites – not warez sites.

  • whoo FLung Dung

    haaaaa
    Allow piracy to prevent criminal piracy…spot on message that

  • David

    Most criminals are not intelligent. thus… piracy.

  • Anonymous

    And BT is now decentralized so it now can work without central server just like the Edonkey network.

    If BT was going down Edonkey will certainly take over.

    Moreover EDonkey can not be shut down because each client is also a server. So there is nothing to shutdown. Now with magnet link it became the same thing for BT thanks to the spectrial in Sweden.

    Moreover people can still access TBP or other BT databases across the word by using Syphon or Tor crashing through the big and oh “how mighty” great fire wall of China.

    So the Chinese government could shutdown every single BT site in China the effect on the network will be zip, zero, nada, nothing.

  • Anonymous

    torrenting with dht is so much simpler, hassle free and quick, i find DHT magnets faster than trackers anyway.
    and now that tpb is working fine again im happy to be back, although to be honest btjunkie was pretty good,

  • lol

    We have noticed a lot more .cn connections hitting our xdcc servers over the past few days, and as they cant really ban chat clients they are going to find it hard to stop that.

  • Kapcha

    hmmmm, let us compare – european authorities are trying to shut down TPB already 4 years, and chinese done this in 2 days.

    It is very interesting, isn`t it? Just comare ;)

  • Truther

    People SHOULD oppose sellers of pirated good. They are in it for their own profit, which is wrong.

    Going after people who do not affect the market, just lets people who do affect the market negatively, profit.

    Go after the scammers, not the share-ers.

  • Anonymous

    Some of the Chinese I frequent shut down their BT page and trackers, but some are already looking at overseas trackers. They will never stop piracy, not when the real goods are so rediculously overpriced (when you take into consideration of the average income of Chinese middle class).

    I’ll leave you with this picture.
    http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/8459/e7bbbfe59d9d.jpg

    It translates to “You couldn’t stop us before, and you still can’t stop us now.”

  • Arpit

    Stoping piracy is just as stoping you from inhaling oxygen torrent sites are in every corner of the world(though the earth is round)
    Internet is future so bittorrent is future.
    Ftw !!!!!!

  • Dee

    Does anybody know any alternatives to btchina to get videos w/ chinese subtitles?

  • Anonymous

    So far VeryCD is still up, but that’s ed2k. BTPig is also up for the moment, but even on their forum they hinted they might shut down soon. Another site lesser site is bt.92wy.com, they also have some Chinese subbed stuff.

  • Anonymous

    I’m in China right now, and that guy’s right. Most internet ’round these parts isn’t quite up to snuff with the standard broadband speeds in other countries. It’s slow enough, and the pirated DVDs/software/etc are cheap enough here that it’s not worth it to download.

  • Anonymous

    @23 – Really depends on where you are in China. I’m in Beijing and my download speed is quite decent, usually doesn’t take more than 15~20 mins to download a new episode of TV show. I do have to agree with the cheap dvd’s though, so many of these “Generic Western Name” DVD shops, and @ $8 each it’s just bang for bucks.

  • ET

    i think its a token gesture by the chinese.

    http://www.epictorrents.com

  • Anonymous

    I must say it’s extremely amusing to read the commenters saying there something wrong with commercial piracy and completely ignoring the fact that most (all?) public bittorrent sites make a profit off advertising.

    You do realise that TPB was going to be sold for 8,000,000 euros which would indicate that this much is being made, profit every year at least?

    Its silly to tarnish commercial pirates with this aspersion and completely and hypocritically ignore your own source for getting torrents for being a profit-making enterprise which they certainly are.

  • Anonymous

    @15 “torrenting with dht is so much simpler, hassle free and quick, i find DHT magnets faster than trackers anyway.”

    wow, lrn2torrent. you must be doing something very, very wrong. Even for a public tracker user this is a joke.

  • this is messed up

    DUDE This is what makes us file sharers criminals, and we don’t sell are CONTENT WE SHARE !!! MAFIA and BRien NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS !! Why Sell when you can share, sell!! “i can say from a file shares point” of ViEW is Wrong!! Even thought we Share we still give credit to the author by not SELLING his work, but sharing it and show people how great it is, so they later buy if its reallly good! REMEMBER THIS DON’T GET IT WRONG!!

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  • Anonymous

    @28 – Honestly. Almost every pirate out there does not download and then buy. In fact it’s very rare, I’d say even less than 1% of all downloaders.

    There is a reason it’s called Piracy, anyone who’s watch Pirates of the Caribbean “take what you can, give nothing back”. That is EXACTLY what happens, sure you “share your download” but you don’t give anything back to the author in terms of cold hard cash (which is what anyone would want for their hard work).

    You wouldn’t work your ass off to get nothing in return all your life. Why should you do that upon the content authors. It’s unjust. But I’m hypocritical here, I’m just as guilty as any other downloader.

    Fair enough if you don’t want to give money to labels, but don’t ram a stake in the heart of the beast, that heart is the artists keeping the labels alive.

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  • Brudda

    I’m sure nobody will ever read this but…
    China is in Asia, where I live. A huge majority of Asians don’t have access to high-speed internet because of the high cost. I think many don’t even own a computer! I see a tremendous amount of locals using internet shops. These take-downs will hurt the upper echelon of Chinese society, but have no relevance to the working man. The reason pirated CDs and DVDs are so prevalent in Asia is that they can be played on a machine that costs $15.00 + TV cost.

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