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3D Printer DRM Patent To Stop People Downloading a Car

DRM systems in the digital media world are nothing new and are utilized extensively in the music, movie and video games industries. Now, after applying four years ago, a company has this week obtained a patent for a DRM system that aims to stop future owners of 3D printers from printing whatever they like. The dream of downloading a new pair of sneakers or even a car might already be in jeopardy, before it’s even begun.

During the last 20 years inkjet printers made an unholy mess of the short-run commercial print guy’s business, enabling just about anyone to print on anything from paper to plastics with a relatively tiny outlay.

During the next 20 years the 3D printer will be the bogeyman affecting industries both far and wide and large and small, by giving the man in the street the ability to print physical objects as easily as he can print a family photo today.

Downloading a car – or a pair of sneakers – will be entirely possible, although Ford and Nike won’t be particularly happy if people use their designs to do so. However, if The Pirate Bay have their way, that’s exactly what will happen.

“We believe that the next step in copying will be made from digital form into physical form. It will be physical objects. Or as we decided to call them: Physibles,” said The Pirate Bay earlier this year announcing a new 3D printing section of their site.

But The Pirate Bay aren’t the only ones predicting a 3D printing free-for-all, and already steps are being taken to ensure that people of tomorrow are denied the freedom to print whatever they want.

A new patent, issued this week by the U.S. Patent & Trademark Office and titled ‘Manufacturing control system’, describes a system whereby 3D printer-like machines (the patent actually covers additive, subtractive, extrusion, melting, solidification, and other types of manufacturing) will have to obtain authorization before they are allowed to print items requested by the user.

In a nutshell, a digital fingerprint of “restricted items” will be held externally and printers will be required to compare the plans of the item they’re being asked to print against those in a database. If there’s a match, printing will be disallowed or restricted. Japanese rightsholders are already pushing an ISP-level version of the same kind of system to nuke unauthorized music uploads.

“This is an attempt to assert ownership over DRM for 3D printing. It’s ‘Let’s use DRM to stop unauthorized copying of things’,” says Michael Weinberg, a staff lawyer at the non-profit Public Knowledge, who reviewed the patent for Technology Review.

While owners of intellectual property might welcome such a system, the patent – which is registered to Intellectual Ventures, a patent-hoarding company run by former Microsoft CTO Nathan Myhrvold – also covers even more controversial items.

In their announcement in January, The Pirate Bay saw a situation where hunger could be eliminated. “We’ll be able to print food for hungry people. We’ll be able to share not only a recipe, but the full meal,” they said.

But even that eventuality could be restricted. As well as more predictable substances such as ABS and polycarbonate, the printer DRM patent also covers edible substances. It even includes skin.

Of course, the wonders of 3D printing don’t only exist to satisfy consumer demand for the latest products at the flick of a switch. They can be used for very human applications, such as helping this little girl get over a crippling disability and printing blood vessel networks for medical research.

That people are already trying to squeeze themselves between this wonderful technology and creative minds is a serious concern and bound to have an effect on its future development and application. However, for now nothing is forcing printer manufacturers to utilize the DRM, at least until they come under massive pressure from some of the most powerful product manufacturers in the world that is….

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  • thedude321

    This is just too funny! :P I am laughing my ass of..so hard. You idiots, I’ll print whatever the hell I want whenever I want, no DRM is going to stop me! :P

    • FrostyC

      PrintRights. If copyrights are what you need to sue people for copying (but some copying is okay if you paid for it, — makes no sense I know…) then printrights are what you need to stop someone from printing stuff.

      Also, their idea is laughable. I hacked my PS3, XBox360, a Wii and my wireless router, hacking a printer to stop communicating with a server should be no problemo, so you better get working on that law that keeps me from modifying the printer. Not that it is enforceable in anyway, just think it might keep ya busy.

      • BTW,

        Anyone know how progress is going with the more recent PS3 firmware? I bought mine after the hackable ones stopped being sold.

        • yello

          someone help me out here, how does the 3d printing work, isnt the end product just a 3d thing of Paper still?

        • Anyone

          @yello
          currently 3D printing is rather limited, it works with some plastics (basically the stuff Lego is made of) and some more expensive 3D printers work with metal

          they are rather sophisticated, can print moving parts, different colors of the plastic, some can even replicate themselves ;)

        • Spam

          yello, we’re talking about “printing” actual objects. If you have a large 3D printer you can print a bicycle, complete with working gears, ball bearings, drive chain, and ride it. The easiest way to explain how 3D printers work is to link a sample video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SEGaAjyv7k

      • Guest

        Hacked your XBox360? That the Xtreme DVD rom hack or the JTAG/RGH hack?

    • http://profiles.google.com/joramoudenaarde Joram Oudenaarde

      Don’t forget that even if you wánt to print whatever you like, it might not even be possible. It’s very difficult to actually print/copy paper money for example. With the right software, the only way to actually print a pair of shoes might be to actually hack a printer.

      I think this whole DRM/patent crap is too farfetched for a printer. If they at some point dó provide the needed items to print shoes, it would be a very good idea to be able to print a piece of my current shoes to repair them. But that won’t be possible with this kind of patent.

      Or printing a part of a phone, a fork, a speaker or whatever you can think of… if the phone/fork/speaker isn’t being sold anymore, the only way to repair it is, well sometimes impossible. But it would become a possibility with a 3D printer. But again… not with this patent.

      Companies (especially the big ones) are so afraid of losing clientele nowadays that they’d rather suffocate competition and kill innovation with patents and DRM, then to be forced to stay innovative and create a userbase because of thát.

      • .dll

        Sorry, but there soon be a way to go around this, such as making own printer from scratch, or using hacked firmware. Keep in mind that most of the time working crack for games is just few days after release (usually 1-2).

        • Jhginkv

          Printer needs server. Build pirate server. Answer is always, yes, you may print that.

        • .dll

          Jhginkv, or just point it to localhost with fake server software running on it.

      • The_Grapeist

        Actually you can use Adobe Image-ready to get around that. There will always be a way to get around idiotic rules/laws. Yay free money!

    • innocence

      i am going to print a girlfriend

      • Gelpwhkd

        You just PWND!

        Everybody! xD

        Ladies can print boyfriends :P
        There’s something for everyone lol

        • Lulz

          Battery operated boyfriends, anyway.

        • Anyone

          coin-operated boy

          Amanda Fucking Palmer knows what she’s talking about

        • The Gorgeous Sasha Grey

          @innocence

          You’re a fucking loser. There are millions of gorgeous females out there, but you to fucking insecure, incapable, introverted, anti-social, shy, to go out and meet a girl.

          You’re seriously fucked-up in the head man.

      • Qjo

        Does she have a sister?

        • Leapoblocks

          Yes, an identical twin! XD

        • 7th_Guest

          Her name is Print Job #2 o/!

      • Simon Brown

        Yeah, then all you have to do is pay for materials, you’d save a lot of money that way. Get a better girlfriend too.

      • The Gorgeous Sasha Grey

        You’re a fucking loser. There are millions of gorgeous females out there, but you to fucking insecure, incapable, introverted, anti-social, shy, to go out and meet a girl.

        You’re seriously fucked-up in the head man.

        • anonymous

          well, excuse him for being a ‘loser’… not every body can be a jackass like you.

        • Bloaxor

          Amen brother, we all are.

        • 7th_Guest

          You’re a fucking idiot. There are millions of bright people out there, but you’re too fucking dense, humourless, arrogant, pretentious, conceited to sit up and get a clue.

          You’re seriously stuffed-up in the ass, man.

        • http://www.facebook.com/joaopedroborrego João Borrego

          I guess you don’t know the meaning of “a joke” xD

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1201916479 Rowan Stanley

        Print out Illegal Copies of Lucy Lu

      • http://www.facebook.com/joaopedroborrego João Borrego

        @The Gorgeous Sasha Grey

        Relax bro, he was just making a joke xD

    • Wal-Mart

      Of course they are going to stop you because your already probably stealing music and movies

      • Leapoblocks

        I don’t steal music or movies – I’d get arrested by store security if I did that!

        • xxxxx

          I only steal the covers, I mean it’s fucking easy to just burn the content on an empty disc, why would I want to steal that?

    • http://findcheaperinsurance.ca/ BD Williams

      hahahahahahaha.

    • http://twitter.com/sheepodoom SheepODoom

      I can see a need for this eventually for SOME things. however this should not be retroactive nor for any vehicle 25 yrs or older. Anything 10-24 years should require a Hobbyist DRM license & anything 0-9 should have a body shop/ Auto Repair business DRM license. This would give the Manufacturer The ability to profit from a production year for 24 years. after that it becomes a collectible/ Antique & therefore Public domain. Same would apply to Civilian Aircraft & Waterborne craft. This should be limited to personal use. Now if you wanted to sell parts to say a 57 Chevy or a Model T then yea you should pay for the Manufacture rights.

    • Justice

      Ah! Now the troll in charge for TF is doing some provocation exactly like these criminal undercover cops at “Occupy Wall-Street” who are demolishing cars and stuff!

  • Squirreleo

    I want to smack those assholes with a 2 by 4

    There becoming the early version of the church, stoping innovation because they don’t agree with it. This makes me want to go into politics and get a law passed to stop asswipes like these

    • anon999555000333

      Politics and laws are the reason for most of this, The system itself is the problem.

    • Some Dude, man

      If you go into politics learn the difference between they’re and there first.

      • 7th_Guest

        You know, now I have to wonder if G. W. mastered that nuance before getting voted into office by the Bible Belt Nation…

    • http://twitter.com/sheepodoom SheepODoom

      You don’t have the Balls to run for office =8^D

    • The_Grapeist

      Occupy Deez Nutz. Protest on the internet and don’t block traffic like an asshole.

  • http://twitter.com/Anime4PSP Anime 4 PSP

    Lol, like I care about DRM and U.S. Patents. I’ll print whatever I want whenever I want and in quantity I want.

    • http://twitter.com/sheepodoom SheepODoom

      I’ll take 5000 ICBMS with Nuclear payloads please.

      • 7th_Guest

        Sure, no probs. How much you figure a couple of enriched uranium printer cartridges are going for these days :p?

        • Scary Devil Monastery

          According to US intelligence apparently you can get it for cheap from Nigeria in the form of yellowcake, just add centrifuges.

        • The_Grapeist

          unitednuclear.com just add centrifuges

      • The_Grapeist

        ^Bump

  • AJ84

    DRM isn’t going to stop 3D printing – all you need are the plans to print a DRM-free 3D printer.

    • Gelpwhkd

      Yeah, imagine bypassing DRM in a 3d printer, then using that same 3d printer to print…

      3D printers!

      LMAO

      • Scary Devil Monastery

        Read Cory Doctorew’s “Printcrime”. :)

        The short story seemed far-fetched when I read it, and when it was published it was just science-fiction. Now?

        • Kibwe McIntyre

          I love the way you think.
          A sequel to Little Brother X is on the way as confirmed by craphoud.

      • Wal-Mart

        That is dumb

        • http://twitter.com/impshial Paul Adams

          No, it’s not. With the RepRap 3D Printer, you can print more RepRap 3D printers. Google it.

        • Leapoblocks

          How so?

        • Scary Devil Monastery

          Actually no. There’s nothing, either in theory or practice, which would prevent a machine from assembling a copy of itself.

          Meaning once 3d printing surmounts that barrier, all it takes is for one single hobbyist to create a working prototype or hack an existing one and, as with digital files, you end up with one copy in the house of everyone who wants one.

    • Wal-Mart

      Laws will stop you

      • .dll

        Yeah, sure.

      • Qjo

        The same laws that prevent me from downloading music, movies, books, and software?

      • dabble53

        And we knows laws stop you from doing things you shouldn’t…..that’s why we no longer have criminals, and no longer have any jails/prisons :)

      • Leapoblocks

        They don’t stop speeding on the roads, drug trafficking, arms smuggling, warmongering nations invading other nations with impunity. Sometimes they restrict them to some extent, but they don’t stop them. How exactly do you think laws will differ in this case?

        • Scary Devil Monastery

          Most people back away from murder and more serious crimes as a matter of course. In order to respect copyright you first have to violate a few hundred thousands worth of years of selective evolution telling you information should be disseminated…

          And thus no law trying to uphold making copies of information will ever gain widespread respect. People have never accepted it, and never will. Which is why every copyright battle fought has, in the end, meant a total loss for the pro-copyright lobby.

      • http://twitter.com/sheepodoom SheepODoom

        Like they stop all other crimes.

      • Guest

        Oh, Wal-Mart. You’re so cute when you’re silly, idiotic and completely missing the point.

        • Qjo

          Which is always. That’s one seriously cute stupid motherfucker.

      • Scary Devil Monastery

        Like laws stopped copyright infringement?

        Oh, right…

        • Jason

          Time to print some jail cell keys ;-)

      • The_Grapeist

        Rep-rap is open source fucktard

  • Ben Orrin

    So, in order to do this I’d need to manually install the DRM onto my RepRap?

    Good luck with that.

  • Frans Irgolitsch

    If the DRM becomes a serious issue the solution is rather simple and I predict it’ll happen. People will make their own designs and share them online, this way big companies won’t be able to stop it and the DRM won’t have any effect as the authorization can be given by the creator of the blueprint

    • Kevin Grech

      And then the copyright on 3D printable designs will come in. They all want to horde profit and stop others from making similar or better products for themselves or to share their designs from others.

      • Pork on a Boat

        Can one get OpenSource/free licensed 3D printable designs? Thats always been the alternative in the software world, why not the hardware world too?

        (Although I do understand the difficulties there)

        • Leapoblocks

          Yes, you already can (see the photo alongside the article of the Pirate Bay ‘logo’ 3D ship model which they shared open-source on the site). No doubt it will be a scene that will grow over time just as it has with software.

        • Pornoslut

          Exactly – this is a non story. Let the dinosaurs try and protect their designs with DRM.

          Download a pair from Nike(tm) for $100 or get the latest OpenSneakers for free.

          Let the market decide. Of course we’ll still be able to illicitly download Nike trainers for free… but why would anyone want to?

      • CraftyZan101_1

        There’s protective copyright on DVD’s too. It really protects the DVD’s from being copied. /sarcasm

    • Whatever

      That is already exists: http://www.thingiverse.com

    • Guest

      Exactly, just like open source software (which has by far a better community than using closed source software).

    • Scary Devil Monastery

      And as we’ve seen concerning the digital, it will usually mean the hacked or pirated printer is more efficient, faster, and gives you less hassle as a result of not being burdened with DRM. Meaning consumers will tend to spring for the DRM-free version.

  • Andrew Lee

    Awesome! Nike,TIMEX,Sony,Samsung,Rolex,Honda,Ford,Chevy,”one billion other companies here” sponsored military checkpoints to check if my shit is indeed “real”..

    We’re a fucking endangered species I tell you. I’ll be surprised if mankind survives till 2050 at the rate we’re going.

    • Noway

      Agreed

    • .dll

      I’d be surprised if we get to 2020…

      • Mayansgoitright

        Actually given the Mayan calendar I’ll point to end of 2012 to be humankind self destruction

        • Simon Brown

          That’s because you’re a delusional idiot.

        • Mayansgoitright

          @Simon Brown

          way to go, your sarcasm meter is way off, please go to the shop to either replace it or fix it

        • The_Grapeist

          xD surprise bitch its 2013!

  • MaxxOri

    Do DRM on DVDs and music disks never worked and now they want to further use a broken concept in an even more hard to control situation.

    Good luck. You’ll need it.

  • http://p5.myopenid.com/ p5

    Easy solution: print your own printer. Put as much DRM into it as you prefer. (Suggested quantity: none.)

  • Anyone

    once again, patents stopping progress

  • zeb

    The Lego company is still screwed.

    • Innocence

      I think you will find Lego is a click system.

    • Maldoror

      If I remember correctly, Lego has already difficulties in meeting global demand for their bricks. If they are smart they sell high-quality raw materials with the right color for the 3D printer and make the plans of the bricks open source.

      Think of all the goodwill this already popular company would create when they embrace the geeky open source community.

      • Scary Devil Monastery

        …after which all they have to do is focus on those components which might have high materials cost or be complex enough to make printed designs unreliable and their fortune is made…

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000047362484 Callan James Pye

      actually have you ever seen the machines they use to print lego?

      they have nothing to worry about

      • Anyone

        current 3D printers can already print lego bricks just fine (it’s the same material)
        it just takes an aweful amount of time

        • Leapoblocks

          “current 3D printers … awful amount of time”

          Remember how slow desktop inkjet printers used to be? Same thing will happen* ;)

          *thinking about it, the same thing +might+ happen – the printers become really really cheap (as well as faster), but they sell the plastics at a stupidly inflated price like they currently do with inks!

        • Anyone

          @Leapoblocks
          then you do what you currently do with ink, get off-brand one for a fraction of the price

        • http://twitter.com/colorznatalius Mike Scholten

          lego is currently made by mold injection, and atop of that the margin for error in size was something about 0.005 millimeter if I’m correct. That’s what makes the lego brand a bit more expensive but at least it’s a very precisely fit. Try an cheaper off brand, same design, but not so good fit and lots of pieces that are off. Currently there’s no printer I know of that can make printed lego pieces indistinguishable from real lego pieces

    • dabble53

      Never cared much for Legos…..but would love to find some American Brick sets/designs

      • StrangelyStrange

        If it was American it would cost too much and wouldn’t work too well. See American cars for details.

  • register

    This is bullshit. People have be used 3D printers for yonkers and homebrew.

    Anyone claiming to own the rights is just a conspiracy to hinder or stop some from making what they want.

    Everyone must assert freedom in this field as it is another realm of freedom that needs protecting.

  • asgaro

    What’s wrong with printing a car? It’s not like you will be able to drive it lol, so who cares you have a miniature?

    • Violated0

      http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15007018

      You were saying? Printed and driven already but more components need to be made printable.

      While you may have small printers at home there will be a commercial market for you to print out large components like a new shell for your car.

    • Scary Devil Monastery

      It might take a century before you can “print” a car, but imagine any item in your home being reproducible as long as any component of it fits inside a 2x2x2 foot area at very low cost…

      And a century or so from now, all you do to get a car is print out the parts and assemble them like IKEA furniture.

      • Anyone

        it will not take a century

        just think back 10 years, 2002, how did your phone look back then? compare it to now
        or how fast was your internet back then?
        3D printing will make similar fast progress

        • Steve UK

          3D printing cannot possibly make the same progress, the physics and chemistry are impossible. 3D printers use one material, they do not have access to the entire range of elements or the ability to transform them into every chemical variation. So right now maybe you could make a little plastic model car, but a real car is not made from one type of plastic. It is made from thousands of different complex materials.

          What this article is suggesting is a kind of magic, like alchemy, where incredible material transformations can take place at a cellular level. This isn’t “a slight upgrade” from current 3D printers. It’s not like comparing great chunky eighties phones with today’s models. It’s like saying “we’ve been making cars for ages so that means that soon we’ll be able to make time machines.”

          3D printers in 100 years might be able to use several materials to make slightly more complex and interesting items. But the idea that we might be printing “food” is science fiction of the most imaginative kind.

        • Scary Devil Monastery

          As Steve UK has it, different story. Total 3d-printing will assume a fairly vast leap in materials technology, along with new printing methods able to etch copper and gold onto silicon wafers in a clean-room environment, and resins capable of tolerating combustion stress – while at the same time being printable without requiring an industrial-grade power source.

          Hence I’m saying a century. You might be able to “print” the equivalent of a Model T before then, but it’ll be more of a novelty item than a vehicle.

      • Simon Brown

        Hah, century.

        by 2040 you could do that easy.

    • Guest

      It doesn’t need to be a miniature. 3D printers will get bigger and super big item can be printed in parts and then put together.

  • Lasivian

    While there might be some future form of 3D file protections, it will be blatantly impossible to stop someone from using their 3D scanner on an object and printing that object with their homemade 3D printer.

    This is just a known patent troll trying to grab anything they can imagine ahead of time.

  • Violated0

    No sane person would spend a small fortune on a 3D printer if it had DRM-like protection. So if any manufacturer goes that route then watch their sales crash and burn as word spreads around.

    I am quite interested in the print your own handgun project myself. These people are aiming for a model first before moving on to working components. US law currently does not ban guns you make yourself at home.

    The world will sure change the day someone prints themselves an assault rifle and goes to rob the local convince store. Only one of many applications that would prove distasteful to most people.

    • Oplease

      3D Printers ????The research team, from the University of Science and Technology of China and Tsinghua University in Beijing, managed to transmit quantum information between Badaling in Beijing and Huailai in Hebel province, a total of 16 kilometers, while maintaining an average signal fidelity of 89 percent.

      Baby steps, people.

      • Enricos

        Keep in mind that the quantum information, at this current moment, STILL can’t be used to transmit anything classic yet. So yes, while its instantaneous (within nanoseconds), it’s still technically useless to us at the moment.

        • Twdarkeh

          He did say “baby steps”.

  • Philip Ward

    If printer manufacturers want to break their own printers let them. Those who don’t produce broken printers will be the ones who corner the market. Once it becomes economically feasible I’ll be buying a lulzbot.
    http://www.fsf.org/news/hardware-certification-aleph-objects-lulzbot-3d-printer

  • icec0ld

    Remember how DRM was introduced to PC games and all piracy stopped?

    • Scary Devil Monastery

      There’s a like for you on that one. :)

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  • http://www.peoplesnote.org Don Reba

    So, let me get this straight: I could patent all kinds of still non-existent DRM measures and then prohibit anyone from implementing them. Is that right?

    • Techanon

      yes, you can! and, please do!

    • dabble53

      By the time 3D printers really catch on and become ubiquitous, this silly patent will be expired anyway. Not to mention, it only works for designs actually put into the system. Can’t DRM prohibit those designs the copyright holder doesn’t want DRMed.

  • Guest

    Someone was in the news recently because they printed a replacement part for their daughters car…

    uh oh.

    It’s stupid that it would apply to (3d) printers, what about CNC Milling machines? I know its just because these cost more though.

    What about HAND making parts from a plastic box, drilling, cutting and filling? Next we will have some kind of tax on tools.

    No scrub that, a tax on doing anything.

    • Anonymous

      Who knows maybe the porn industry will want to pass a law where they want people to pay taxes on putting home made porn on the internet. Or maybe they will tax people on…no no never mind I have said enough.

      • Scary Devil Monastery

        Trust me, I’m pretty sure some porn manufacturer has indeed tried to patent “positions”.

        I’m not sure if it’s myth or not but I believe back in 2000, someone did try to patent “Respiration”.

  • http://www.frontier-space.com/ Lethn

    If we can end up copying any inanimate objects we can think of for free then we won’t even need currency anymore.

    • .dll

      True, but plastic coins would be too easy to detect. Unless there will be printer that can do metal objects.

    • Heretical Inquisitor

      Problem is that it’s not “free.” You have to buy material for said printer. My school has a rapid-prototyper, which is essentially a 3D printer, and the cost of the printing material (it’s some sort of plastic) was incredibly high.

  • Shogunreaper

    I don’t know anything about this 3d printing stuff, but surely it doesn’t matter, i mean its not like its a real car right?

    • Whatever

      Well, most of them print plastic at the moment but there also exist other printers/projects with other materials like molten metal.

      In future with more possibities and improved resolution/tolerances it might be possible.

      • CraftyZan101_1

        There are also food printers.

    • Scary Devil Monastery

      Given material science advances? 50-100 years from now you would be able to build your own car, yes. You might have to assemble it like IKEA furniture, but it certainly is possible. Some resins today are already stronger than steel alloy so the only problem is really in adapting the goop you use so it can withstand the heat of the combustion. Or you might end up using just a few metal parts and have 95% of the car made of recycled plastics. Dropping the actual cost of manufacture to a pittance.

  • Suhtjazn

    It’ll end up like operating systems today, some people want MacOSX and will pay for it, others like Microsoft and plenty of people will run linux for free. I can imagine freeware or GPL covered items turning up. In the end Nike will have have produce a better shoe, or patent their innovations or people won’t pay the extra and simply print out the “free” version of the shoe, with a mod kit they downloaded to customize it.

    • Scary Devil Monastery

      Here’s the thing – so far proprietary businesses have begun taking an unholy beating on the market. Samsungs Galaxy Tab II with Android outperformed Apple’s iPad version by a mile.

      As a result Apple decided to invoke a patent suit over a “rectangular communications device with centered screen and aluminium-frame reinforcement” and managed to run their competitor off the market.

      Similarly, many software companies have tried for many years to get open source made illegal – because they can’t keep up with the competition.

      Open source will always beat closed source from the very second the open source variant reaches maturity.

      The response of Nike and Ford to 3D printers will simply be to ensure that the “free” alternative can not legally exist.

  • John Space

    Happy Fool’s Day! (Because Columbus was a fool, I guess.)

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  • Whatever

    It will go like this:

    Now 3d printers can print anything you want them to print but those things are expensive and quite a hassle to build and operate.

    Some industrial wil come up with a 3D printer with more integrated electronics (how else to hide DRM) and better looks for about 20% less but with DRM. This will not be communicated or it will be advertised as an advantage.

    Now hordes of people start buying crippleware.

    After a while new cheaper DRM-less printers will arrive but only a few smart people will buy them because it is not a mainstream brand.

    “Consumers” will go for anything. Why else would people freely experience good old Eastern Europe queueing at Apple stores.

    • Jon7272

      not to mention people bought vista and windows 8 lmfao

  • Heggna

    From a scientific perspective…….what a load of nonsense. They’re actually afraid that people will be able to conjure matter our of thin air!!!

  • Boxxy

    Excuse me while I go print myself a Ferrari.

  • blahhh666

    Oh, we’ll just route around it ;-) They will never stop the technological progress!!!

  • TingVoo

    No doubt about it, the next 20 years will be exciting!
    UP-Anon.tk

  • Jed

    what they seem to forget is this : “if man made it, a man can break it” so copywrong and pussyfuckwit governments I welcome this challenge and I am assured a large some of others will to.

    One day I see this world ending, It now seems to be getting closer, I am not a hippy / green peace follower but I really can not stand watching the way humans are going on now, we do not own this planet but we share it with some wonderful creatures, maybe all the tits are jealous they have to manufacture there protection not like a lion or a bear who is born and bread to be protectors, but one day we are going to ruin for the rest of them.

  • Hayden Evans

    Like DRMs have stopped anything yet

  • Eaandja

    Just imagine printing toys for the kids for Christmas? what a saving that would be and knowing you made it your self. Sorry Walmart, we prefer American made. NOT China toxic toys.

    • Kernel

      I bet the “toner” will be Chinese.

    • StrangelyStrange

      I prefer German made. That way you know it will actually work.

  • Oplease

    Why would any on want to print 3D, on a flat piece of tree ?? If you want to see my 3D let me pull out my pocket hologram ….3D on paper ? God that is so 1800s… LMAO !!

  • Anonymous

    Print a printer that doesn’t have DRM.

    • Guest

      Already taken

  • Ben Wilson

    The article misses a major point. It is known that the application is possible, but it is still a little ways out. By the time that it is to a more consumer level, the very fact that you can just print about anything will change the fundamental landscape of consumer availability. Ferrari (using this because of the article pic) will have a very hard time selling their patents in whatever form because there will be a billion engineers out there throwing their specs online for (free) or really, really close. So the ‘Ferrari business model’ in this future will not resemble anything close to what it is today or it will not exist.

    Everything in this period will just be, different.

  • Wal-Mart

    They are right people should not be allowed to do this!

    • Qjo

      Yeah, and you should not be allowed to post here. Deal with it.

    • Leapoblocks

      You still haven’t explained why, so your argument is moot.

    • CraftyZan101_1

      Allowed? Genie is out of the bottle my little Wal-Mart friend. There is no getting said Genie back in so the people will do this regardless of being “allowed”.

    • Guest

      i’m gonna print things from wal-mart too.

    • Scary Devil Monastery

      I’m smelling troll here…

  • http://twitter.com/BrookLaa Andrew Brookfield

    …How can you print food…?

    • Athox

      proteins, fat and other components.

      i suppose you’d get gravy to start with, but then eventually something with more substance

    • Anyone

      everything is just stardust
      all that matters is that you assemble it correctly

  • Guest

    The only way to realistically control 3d printing is by applying EULA agreements to 3d designs, the way software is currently licensed. You don’t buy the actual CD with the data on it, you buy the right to USE the software, and you can download a “backup” of that software and still use it legally. Licensing 3d designs to allow fabbers and makers to reproduce them after paying a nominal fee would be the sensible way to make profits from design investments. Make it cheap enough to do legally and nobody will chose the “illegal” path.. a lesson the music industry is still refusing to learn.

  • qingtian996

    tinyurl.com/8rezfs7

  • Me

    Well at least it will spell the end of those magazines, you know the ones, build you own nuclear submarine issue one comes complete with 2 free parts. :)

    • Guest

      good luck getting a reactor design scheme without getting thrown in jail.

  • Me

    How can you print food…? I was wondering that because if you by edible paper whats the point? like it’s not free so might as well buy the food, or you could grow it oh wait that might be made illegal soon!

    • Anyone

      it doesn’t print on paper, it prints actual objects

      currently you can’t really print food, but in a few decades I can see a printer assemble proteins and molecules to create food

      • CraftyZan101_1

        It can by having edible ‘ink’ printing edible objects. Say, a chocolate model car.

  • http://twitter.com/Qwickset Tim Hoefer

    I’m missing the reason for any worry. Patent Legislation. DRM only keeps people from doing something if the hardware/software manufacturers implement it (and still then there are usually ways around it). I’d be curious how eager the less commercial 3D printer market would be to adopt any DRM. Without legislation, there is no requirement for any 3D printer manufacturer to implement the DRM.

    Having someone create a patent on a device that requires people to pay for breathing air does not mean people are going to die of suffocation.

  • Jews

    can’t wait to wear my plastic Nikes

  • http://profiles.google.com/orfetheo Orfeas Theofanis

    Great… They’ll soon issue a DRM for printers too, “you are not allowed to print books!”.

    • Qjo

      I read somewhere that Photoshop won’t let you print money. Never tried it, but it seems kind of unreasonable, don’t ya think?

      If I want to use my printer for an illegal task it should be the law’s responsibility to catch me, not to repress my creative freedom to prevent it.

      • Leapoblocks

        Fiery and Creo RIPs which control commercial digital printers (Xerox, Konica, Kyocera, Roland etc) already have this built into the software. If it detects something too closely resembling monetary notes it won’t print (or photocopy). Additionally, all these high-end printers actually print a faint dot-pattern, unique to each machine, using yellow so that the human eye/brain doesn’t notice it unless you look really closely. This way if something ‘illegal’ is printed (if you somehow manage to force it to print forged currency) the law-enforcement authorities can ask the relevant manufacturer to which specific individual machine was used to produce it. Seriously, I’m not making this up.

  • Alexander

    get ready Bugatti.. here comes your future creator lol

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  • Guest

    There is a depressingly large group of people on this planet that strongly yearn to live in the Dark Ages. Unfortunately, they were born about a thousand years too late.

    Too bad we can’t just establish a country somewhere that makes it a priority to live for the future instead of the past. I used to think the USA could be that country, but these days it is quickly becoming the capital of the new Dark Ages.

  • http://slyck.com/ zbeast

    these type of Patents are anti-patents.. No printer makers are even thinking of adding something like this to there hardware..
    but if someone does.. they will have to pay this joke for the rights to..

  • Ishimaru Jebel

    So, if I want a Nintendo 3DS… I’ll have to print a NOntendoThreaDS because the plans (or blueprints) are different, right?

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  • Sorshja

    Why do you people keep talking about printing on paper when referring to a 3D printer? I currently own one in Canada and there is nothing “paper” about it. I buy resin packs in liquidated form, much like ink cartridges, that are the end product. They come in a variety, plastic, rubber, metal, etc, and can be printed together to form complicated mechanical components. No one prints this crap onto “paper”, please Google before you post so you stop filling my TorrentFreak articles with retarded comments!

    • Sorshja

      Oh and on the subject of “open source”, it accepts any AutoCad file already.

      • Gear Mentation

        Great, so will we be able to print metal parts, or heat and wear tolerant parts soon?

        • Leapoblocks

          You could also print dies to create/cast/mould parts made from ‘non-printable’ materials.

        • Anyone

          there already are 3D printers for metal

    • KiRE

      Bitch ,you don’t own TorrentFreak. shut the fuck up and go play god on facebook.

  • interloper

    And just like current DRM that does not work whatsoever in curbing piracy, this move will just give rise to pirate 3D printer file sites.

    Though 3D printing is at least taking off due to grassroots efforts through Kickstarter and the like and less directly from the corporate world, their patent is worthless if no one chooses to implement such a thing.

    This is more stupid though just on the fact that 3D printers are nowhere near printing complicated devices like a car or a cell phones…yet. These are still more or less rapid prototyping machines for simple objects.

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  • Gear Mentation

    They are trying to make it impossible to print basic stuff. If they were just trying to restrict the special designs of companies, this might be okay. Then you could have open and closed source, as in software. The principles of engines and certainly things such as shoes are well known. If what you want is the “latest style” of car or shoe or whatever, you can pay for it. This is not really “culture.” These are utilities. You will not actually be culturally deprived if you cannot print every design there is. But I see no reason why there would not be open source designs for everything besides what people have become convinced is the “latest and greatest.” You have a situation like that with Apple, where totally unnecessary things are sold for high prices merely because people like them. However, of course they will try to make more basic stuff closed-source, and even try to limit what body parts we can print. Hopefully like people said above you will be able to print printers, and thus be able to design your own without the interference. But let’s be real… the current way of innovation and the motivation of getting rich is eventually not going to be able to sustain itself. Whether by printing, robots, internet sharing, whatever, everything is coming down around the ears of the current system and however much it fights we are moving to a cornucopia… which means you can’t get any social juice out of being rich.

  • Erm?

    Hang on, if these guys have *patented* the idea of 3d printer DRM, and patents are usually meant to stop other companies doing things, doesn’t this just mean they’ve just raised the chances that future 3d printers WON’T have DRM? (for fear of patent infringement) . . . ;-)

  • FdAlltheWay

    So if by any chance the replicator technology like we see in StarTrek is found we’ll get the “Sorry folks but you can’t replicate patented stuff”

    I say forget 3D Printers start working on a open-source time travel machine that allows people to go back to the past and smack the living shit out of this DRM supporters and current politician generation

    Or even better travel to the period of time when copyright was invented and just erase the person responsible for the idea

    Like someone said don’t remember who, I am losing faith in humanity

  • Slig

    A 3D printer capable of printing something as large as a car would require sufficient housing space. Even those who had the space to house an industrial sized 3D printer would still have the cost of the raw materials to produce “print” it. Even if one printed the car as smaller parts to be assembled would still incur the cost of the raw materials, not to mention a huge electricity bill. How much time and energy would be involved in printing every part, gear, gasket, seal, spring, screw, nut, bolt, casing, hose, clamp, window, seat, dashboard parts, a/c, handle, mirror, etc., etc., etc.? Even if you downloaded the entire package and then printed out all of these parts, how many would have the knowledge to assemble it all correctly? We are not just talking about printing parts, we are talking about printing parts which make up the part itself. Every gear, nut, bolt, casing, etc., would have to be printed separately and then assembled… Once you had all the parts assembled, then you would have to assemble the assembled parts to assemble the car! I guess what I am trying to say is that the average “working class” person will never have the financial resources, the spare time or the knowledge to print and assemble a automobile!

    • garcia_IS_shill

      I agree while Pirate Bay is good at one thing (torrents) it didn’t invent them, and they’re certainly not so good at evangelizing or realizing what the ‘costs’ of stealing ‘designs’ and operating such a theoretical printer capable of synthesizing dozens of different raw materials/chemicals required to make any kind of car into a ’2d ink analogue.’.. so many materials and substances would be needed to make a ‘drive-able’ car akin to modern car designs. This is just Nordic FUD.

    • 3rdDigitRaisedMate

      Surely if you’re going to print a car, then you’d print it out one piece. Or at least with as little parts as possible. Obviously there would always be components that couldn’t, or rather shouldn’t be printed ie Air bags(explosive), seat belts (Maybe if elastic carbon fibre could be printed). That would minimize construction as well as allowing much safer vehicles with a holistic approach to crumple zones safety caging.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=618777774 Mitch Menghi

    3D printers have a long way to go, but eventually if the technology explodes will mean LEGO will go out of business pretty fast lol

  • Jon

    I’m surprised people honestly believe that they will sell printers for private use capable of printing anything. Some things are too damn big.

    • Gnbcpmrq

      That’s what they were saying for the first computers.
      You know, the ones that needed a whole room to operate?

      Look at computers now :D

    • 3rdDigitRaisedMate

      Not so. I’ve seen video of printer that can build a houses walls and floor, with plastic piping for water and sewage, plus conduits in place for power,data and Heating/cooling. All in one process. It’s not beyond the realms of reason to have a printer that could build a skyscraper. It’s just a matter of scale.

  • Tobywebster47

    Creators need recognition and payment. Otherwise they will not be able to spend as much of their time as possible creating, and we all lose out.

    • Anyone

      there are lots of open source projects that do just fine

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=16822034 Paul McElroy

      Creators should spend more time on getting financed Kickstarter style so that after the first run they have earned enough to move on to the next venture/creation process. They could then manufacture the product, already 100% paid back for their work, and at the same time so could other people.
      Copyright isn’t necessary, and asserting that people have ownership over ideas means that they have partial ownership of any material that could be used to produce that idea – this is incompatible with the belief in private property.

    • Jeredog

      burn copyright,

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  • Me

    The real genius in this patent is that someone or some group with enough money to meet the trolls demands could license the rights to prevent any one else from using DRM of any type on 3D printing for the life of the patent.

    The shame is that it took trolls to have the funds to do this and not the 3D printing manufacturers or user groups.

    Then again the same money could be used to ‘convince’ congress that 3D printing was bad for the country and a new DRM law is necessary or america as we know it will cease to exist.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=16822034 Paul McElroy

      I’m glad this patent happened at the beginning of the 3D printer era instead of when they actually begin to be useful on a larger scale. Starting a 20 year countdown riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight now! GO!

  • Hefestus

    I bet no one here has tried to copy a $20 on a color copier sold in the USA. The copier will display an error code, and not print. DRM from the United States Department of the Treasury. Color copiers have had this for more than ten years.

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      Funny… I did that on my at-home printer/scanner/all-in-one and it didn’t display an error code and did it just fine and dandy.

      There isn’t any such thing from what I have read and seen.

  • Spencer greff

    I’m excited. :)

  • MED-6382

    Look, let’s get real here. Yes, you could ‘download’ a car or a three course meal or a Nike training shoe, but you won’t be able to print it such that they actually function in the normal way. 3D printers are seriously constrained by the materials that they can print, currently limited to some metals and specialist thermoplastics, etc. Take the concept of printing food, for example – to print food, you would require ‘print cartridges’ that contained … food! To print a Nike training shoe would require a number of different polymeric materials, most of which are not (yet) amenable to 3D printing. Don’t get me wrong – this is an important technology and one that may redefine the future of manufacturing, but best not to get too excited about it going mainstream in every household.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=16822034 Paul McElroy

      I agree. Most likely, 3D printing technologies will find themselves in more traditional settings, such as factories. Smaller “units” will still be in the home, with a limited set of usable materials and functions, but what will come to exist will be the Kinkos of the 3D printing era – where you can take your plans for something and print it out in a limited quantity but with all the correct materials.

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  • tonyj

    3D Printer will print my version of God. Just hope God isn’t copyrighted.

  • tonyj

    Everything in your body is copyrighted. You won’t be able to print a pair of new lungs or a pancreas, or even that large penis you wanted to upgrade to because it’s all copyrighted.

    • G.O.D.

      Your absolutely right I pantented it a long time ago when I created this planet I guess it’s time for earth to royalties

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  • Leikmadur

    Will they ever give it a break :D

  • Chiptek

    These kind of printers are the next step to a free world without money. When food can be made out of thin air, money will eventually become superfluous. A world without money would get rid of most of society’s contemporary problems.

    As this would make the high-up capitalists lose most of their power, this is the last thing they would want to see happen. Of course they’ll try to avoid this at all costs, even if they’re severely slowing the progress of our society.

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  • John Campbell

    Look, folks; if you’re upset about the patent, work to get it invalidated. My knowledge of the Patent laws may be outdated, but if I remember correctly, a patent can not be granted for something that had appeared in print at least a year before the patent was filed. In Charles Stross’ 2005 novel Accelerando, he wrote the following:

    “A religious college in Cairo is considering issues of
    nanotechnology: If replicators are used to prepare a copy of a strip of
    bacon, right down to the molecular level, but without it ever being part of a
    pig, how is it to be treated?”

    This may invalidate the food portion of the patent; then again it might not. If there are more knowledgeable people out there, let’s look through science fiction from before 2006 and see if the patent can be invalidated point by point. If they want to use the law to shut down 3D printing, let’s use the law against them. Less messy.

  • Anon111

    Yes…Because creating new rules/laws are going to stop people copying stuff….

  • http://twitter.com/DuckTheNWO NewWorldStoner ?

    We stand on the precipice of developing paradigm changing technology, technology that has the potential to speed up and facilitate our evolution as a species, yet these evil, greedy corporations are already using their money and power to stifle it in order to retain control and profit for the elite.

    The only way forward for us as a species is for patents and proprietary licences to be abolished, entirely. Open and free access to all software and information is paramount to our evolution. Those who seek to prevent this freedom and openness do so only in order to retain their control of power and in doing so, prevent us from evolving as we should be.

    The time is upon us to realize this and take back what is rightfully ours as a species, not as corporations serving only to benefit the elite.

  • anon

    We have to control 3D printing because 3D printers could mess up sanctions with countries like Iran.

    • Anyone

      so?

  • Vanb

    This reminds me of Napster back in the day. Back then, I had no idea about file sharing until it was all over the news that the recording industry was trying to shut it down. We all see how well that worked for ending file sharing. I had never heard of 3D printing until reading this article. It’s good that these major industries are getting this whole patenting and lawsuits out of their systems now. By the time I have the equipment and materials available to make 3D printing available for me and mine, there will be plenty of cracks and workarounds already out there to utilize.

  • es

    a printed car would be kind of hard to drive without registering it and getting a license plate, no?

    • http://www.facebook.com/bovski Dmitri Bovski

      Amateur call yourself a pirate :P

      Why not print the license plate as well.

  • https://sudoman.wordpress.com/ Andrew Engelbrecht

    Quite sad really. Thankfully, there are 3D printer companies that are totally against that. Aleph Objects is against DRM, and they also give you complete control and freedom over the software you use to run it. I know this because the Free Software Foundation gave them a “Respects Your Freedom” (RYF) certification:

    http://www.fsf.org/news/hardware-certification-aleph-objects-lulzbot-3d-printer

    Hopefully we’ll see more hardware vendors step up to the plate.

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  • castingcouch

    Why don’t they just called it a ‘Replicator’ just like on Star Trek.

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  • 0omg

    i love how the copyright madness is going on …. what is next ? sue me for saying a catch phrase from a movie/serie ? ….. or drink something a copyright troll drink …. epic fail

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  • Bart

    Next idea, every times you try to print a text document(which you’ve written yourself) it’ll make an online search to see if it has any passages similar to copyrighted work,and prevent you from printing it.

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  • John

    why bother printing copyrighted stuff? Communities of users can make cool (and better) stuff for themselves and then share it, like GNU.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1127760232 Jon Watson

    What they don’t realize that people with 3d modeling skills (like myself) can design & print whatever we want! If big companies don’t want their designs 3d printed, THEN DON”T MAKE THE CAD FILES AVAILABLE! Man, what a simple fix that was. Sure, there will be 3d model service bureaus (like there are now like Turbosquid) that will sell 3d models with usage rights and all that, but if Ford or Nike don’t want their stuff printed then don’t make the models available! They don’t allow their blueprints or CAD designs to be circulating around now, for anyone to take to their local machine shop and have made on a CNC mill, why would they in the future? Things that are meant to be downloaded and printed will be created for that purpose. I don’t think the big corporations need to worry about their stuff being pirated & printed if they just keep it locked up and offline. Common sense people, use it!

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  • Who

    in order to be able to download a car you would have to have a really big 3D printer. and the only people that could afford this would be the supper rich. so it must be true, that the rich started this file sharing thing and the rich are now trying to stop it. give me a break don’t start something that you can’t handle LOL.

  • http://www.ctldigital.co.uk/ CTL

    “Hey, where did you get that new bike?!” Oh I printed it out ;) haha!

  • Computer Master

    Wow, just a few years ago this whole 3d printing idea of printing a car out wasn’t even possible. In just a few years, people will be downloading CARS.

    This is the future. I don’t even know how to make a 3D printer yet, what’s going to happen in a few years ? ? ?

    Even though I’ve spent practically my whole life online and on the Internet, I feel like a newbie again with the advent of this new 3d printing field.

  • Werewolf454

    idiots. instead of fighting the oncoming tech.( example Napster.) they should embrace it and try take advantage of it. I use to work in the 3d printing field, about 8 years ago. I knew as soon as3d printing became popular. the cost of the machines would drop to the point where everybody that could afford it would have one. and people would build their own stuff that would suit themselves instead of some generic piece that doesn’t fit right.

  • Tom Chambers

    I’ll print BOMBS and GUNS and give them away to everyone. Ha Ha Ha.

  • Elijah

    What about DIY 3D printers? How are they going to DRM those? Or will they try to get open platforms such as Arduino restricted?

  • http://www.cartridgeexpress.net/ Jp

    Same old bollocks monopolization in full affect.

  • http://twitter.com/laibacute laibacute

    liked

  • guest

    Of course laws doesn’t stop anyone who really want to do something, bad or good.
    Of course protected DVD are not so protected for the super hackers you are, but this is not the point … When you know nothing about programming, when the simple consummer who knows nothing about hacking techniques want to do something forbiden, he just can not do it. There is the problem of another patents international law, who just will assure good money income for the same big companies as always … When 3D printers will be awailable for everyone, the majority of users won’ be able to do anything with … And the super hackers, who worked for free and with passion during years to make those printing techniques emmerge, will just be spooled out of that market, by patents and the armies of lawyers who come with them …

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