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6 Reasons Why Filesharing Will Go Down in History as the Greatest Thing Ever to Happen to Music

The record labels would have you believe that Napster and now BitTorrent are ushering in the Dark Age of music, but really it’s just the Dark Age of the music industry; music as an art form is on the brink of a new renaissance.

Here’s a countdown of the top six reasons why consumers and artists alike are embracing this brave new world where music can be freely shared.

6. The internet is a great way to reach out to fans

99% of artists are starving artists (hey, it’s a tough gig), but artists who are really good will always make money. Radiohead’s album “In Rainbows” was given away for free and yet still managed to hit the #1 spot on both UK and US music charts and sold 3 million copies. The fans didn’t buy the album because the law compelled them to or because DRM forced them to, they bought the album to show their love and support for the band — and think how many millions more fans Radiohead now has. Talk about filesharing karma.

5. A live performance cannot be downloaded

Music is better live, and that’s how artists have always made their living: live shows. Word of mouth is the best form of advertising, and there’s no better way to get the word out than to share music online. Rather than cracking down on filesharing, savvy artists know that when their fans share their music with their [millions of online] friends, more of those friends will show up at concerts. Torrented MP3s lead directly to more sold out concerts.

4. Big industry stifles creativity

100 songs by 100 independent artists is better than 100 songs by a single mega-band like U2 or a teeny-bopper like Miley Cyrus. Many aspiring musicians never had a chance because they were pushed aside by the latest hit that the record companies decided to bring out. The decline of the music industry, and the rise of filesharing, means there are opportunities for independent artists who can now share their music with the world without ever signing a contract.

3. BitTorrent is just better

Joe Customer wants to listen to Mumford & Sons on his way to work. Joe carefully weighs his options: he can hop in his car, drive 15 minutes to the nearest Best Buy, wander around the store for a bit looking for the album, wait in line for 10 minutes, drive all the way back home, spend an hour ripping the CD to his computer and syncing it to his iPod, and then finally be able to listen to it on the subway on his way to work the next day — or he can just download the album in five minutes. Tough choice. Consumers don’t pirate music to be evil, they do it because it’s easy, which brings us to our next point…

2. iTunes is a billion-dollar business

Billion with a B! Maybe the industry isn’t dead after all. People are willing to pay lots of money to download music, and rather than doing what the record companies did — sue their own customers and then cry themselves to sleep — Apple saw a golden opportunity and made buying songs as quick and easy as a single click. Plus, iTunes now has 90 second song previews and DRM-free music, and iTunes Match which is virtually legalized sharing. What Apple figured out that the record companies didn’t is that music as a culture is one of sharing and socializing, not lawyers and threats.

And the number one reason why filesharing will go down in history as the greatest thing ever to happen to music…

1. It already is

This article isn’t about the future, it’s about the present. Music has been freely shared for years, ever since Napster, and there’s enough data now to definitively say that music is not dead. In fact, it’s thriving. Thanks to piracy, there’s more music than ever. People walk around with thousands of songs in their pockets and new bands and artists can gather up new fans with ease. The freedom of sharing is the future of music. Why is anyone still trying to stop it?

This is a guest post by the brilliant Philip Brocoum of Rhyme and Reason, who’s famous for his blog post ‘Anybody else waiting for the old generation to die so that we can legalize filesharing, marijuana, gay marriage, etc. and then get on with our lives?

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  • Anonymous

    “Anybody else waiting for the old generation to die so that we can legalize filesharing, marijuana, gay marriage, etc. and then get on with our lives?”

    Yes, me. =D

    • Trololol

      I second that.

      • Elisa ? Knockout™

        I third that lol.

        • http://profiles.google.com/howard.trent Trent Howard

          3rd that.

        • Elisa ? Knockout™

          lol you mean 4th ;P

        • Dave

          6th

        • Elisa ? Knockout™

          lol.

        • Elisa ? Knockout™

          lol.

        • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

          I’ll join the party, thank you.

        • Elisa ? Knockout™

          lol

    • The Net Testament

      Would this be the generation from the free festivals and pot heavy 60s or the generation from the 70s with their political nous and sometimes violent reaction to what was going on in the world (unlike just posting on a forum most people will never read)?
      Or was it the 80s generation who were more acceptable to homosexuals and had a collection of C60s taller than themselves full of music they’d taped from friends?

      • Anonymous

        Im betting people born earlier than the 60′s just need to die off already or retire from the political scene…. if you are a minute over 50 you are too old and you will only harm the world when you give out your opinion…

        • Leon Panetta

          Foolish comment

        • Anonymous

          including Jack Valenti?

        • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

          Actually you’re probably right as those are indeed the very same people whose age-group are running the major corporations in such a stupid and offensively self-destructive manner – who refuse to modernise and adapt to the new tech.

          And I write as someone with more than just “a minute over 50″.

        • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

          I’d say that after 1980 ppl became more open minded. I’d use that as the line between the ones I’d like to die already. Obviously there’s a grey line, there are youngsters that could have been born 3 or 4 decades before and old guys that you’d mistake them for a 20-ish person in their ideas. But it’s a good generalization.

        • Cwsus

          names right bonehead what a load of old grabage from someone who has shit for brains

    • FreetheGanja

      Definitely Marijuana, and the rest stated. The Dinosaurs need to become extinct… nao!

    • Anonymous

      I have been waiting for that since I was born a bit over 19 years ago…

    • Teo

      Or…you can simply get out and do what that “old generation” does and get busy voting and most importantly go talk to folks face to face and get them to see your pov

      • Anonymous

        That doesn’t work. The two-party system can’t be fixed. (even the Simpsons slightly mentioned that in a Treehouse of Horror episode, which is known to be ‘very, very, very scary’ :P)

        • Anonymous

          Don’t blame me. I voted for Kodos.

        • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

          Bipartisanship has proven to be bad news. The US is there to prove.

          Pirate Party movements around the world are some fresh air into the politics if you ask me.

        • Dark_Lotus

          George Washington in his farewell address to the nation warned against the two party system and it being the downfall of The United States..”It serves to distract the Public Councils, and enfeeble the Public Administration….agitates the Community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms; kindles the animosity of one….against another….it opens the door to foreign influence and corruption…thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.”

        • Anonymous

          And that’s exactly what happened (but just a tiny bit different)

          Verstuurd vanaf mijn HTC Wildfire
          Op 11 aug. 2011 07:31 schreef “Disqus”
          het volgende:

    • Anonymous

      Yes!

    • http://tinyurl.com/ANoiXioNA-personal-info ANoiXioNA

      I harmonic fifth that !

      ( * most of you wont know what a harmonic fifth is. aww well )

    • Kollin

      i will go far to 7th that

    • Kollin

      i will go far to 7th that

    • Anonymous in CT

      Old generation? Geeze I’m 54 years old and have been using file sharing sites since Napster first came out. I now mainly use torrent sites because you can download more than just music.

      As far as legalizing marijuana & gay marriage that should have happened years ago. Gay marriage is legal in my home state of CT

    • http://profiles.google.com/skybon ????? ???????

      Filesharing is ok, but legalizing other things is like waging war against nature AND ourselves.

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  • Guest

    +1

  • Elisa ? Knockout™

    Best article of the week. :)

  • The Net Testament

    I do actually agree with most of the points here, but I still want to say this:

    Pedantic Reply:

    Skipping past the implication that Radiohead didn’t have millions of fans pre-Rainbows and the ‘mega group’ double standard of lauding said ‘head and decrying U2, here’s 6 reasons I miss the pre file sharing/digital music days in some ways. This might be going back a bit (ooh all of 20 years, so some of you youngsters ask your mama)

    1 – Flipping thru vinyl or CDs in a rack in a record shop.
    It’s Saturday afternoon. You’ve been stuck at work or school all week, and you’ve got into town and now you’re at peace with that rack of vinyl or CDs right there before you, your friend across the other side doing the same. You place your hands either side of the rack and slowly start to flick thru them. “Got, got, would never buy… “. It was physically much more pleasing than scrolling down a list and clicking.
    Which leads us onto…

    2. The Chance Discovery.
    For years you’ve been looking through rack after rack of music, sometimes hunting for a specific album, sometimes just seeing what catches your eye. Then as you flip (see point 1) through you suddenly spot that American Import of an album a band never released in your country, a rare live recording. Fantastic. You felt like it was a pay off for all those times you went shopping. You earned it thru perseverance. Now its all there on the screen and sometimes it can make you feel like the kid in the candy shop who suddenly just wants a carrot.

    3. Record Fairs & Bootlegs.
    A similar point to the previous. Local record fair circuits toured by people selling random and rare albums, letting you have a chance to snap up a bargin, find a rarity or get hold of that (illegally produced) bootleg album of a live recording or demo tape. Being in a room full of like minded people all hunting thru racks and revelling in anorakist behaviour. What joy of a Sunday morning!

    4. Cover Art.
    With the advent of the CD, cover art had already taken a major blow, with the size limitations of much smaller packaging. Now in a digital age, cover art is seen at best in a half inch folder view on a screen. The reason for a medium which produced some wonderful art has vanished in the last 2 decades. Think of the iconic covers of the past, of Sgt Pepper, of The Velvet Underground & Nico, Sticky Fingers, Dark Side of The Moon. More than once I’ve bought an album on the basis of the cover art and been well rewarded, now you have to squint at your ipod to work out what the hecks going on with the covers.

    5. Organisation.
    What music lover didn’t enjoy ordering their CDs or Vinyl. By year, artist, or even order acquired. See High Fidelity for more on this. It got you to look thru what you had, and think about it, to treasure it. Now all you have to do is click a header and its reordered in seconds.

    6. Independent Record Shops.
    A beacon for any music fan, the few small indie shops on the high street 15-20 years ago where you could go and buy those weird things you heard on John Peel or saw in the NME, they were cool and a great place to shop where you felt you weren’t supporting a massive global company, but a guy who just liked music and wanted to share his passions. Now it’s apple or amazon.

    I realise that alot of these points and the things I miss are covered in today’s age (ie the small music torrent site = the Indie shop etc) but honestly with digital music I lost my (once great) enthusiasm for collecting and wanting to own music.

    There’s so much out there, almost too much and especially when its free or convenient to download, it just feels like a trial to bother sorting thru to find what I might like. Yes record companies used to go with market trends and often wasted our time with copycat artists, but they also used to employ skillful A&R men who knew what was a half decent song and what wasn’t, thus saving me the effort of listening to everyone who owned a mic and a half decent soundcard who thought they were the next big thing.

    Bah!
    Humbug!

    • Kollin

      I couldnt agree with more this. My dad has always told me stories of this in his youth and I always said that that is something that should be still around. However though how often do you get to find an independent music store that sells music among every genre. And it goes back to the later 80s and 90s that has cause that. The only place I can find a large (but rather not GOOD) collection of music is either at a behemoth store like Wal-Mart or Best Buy that have a very limited supply of music for one… and as well the majority of the music there is typical corporate music that sounds just like every other CD that is in that collection. Bear it in mind there are some good music that I have found but merely because it was a modified version of older music that was on the vintage vinyl records (and still I had to copiously search every CD they had to find this). This is the reason that most people today will torrent their music and other entertainment online because they are sick of the same type of music being presented to them in these retail stores and have almost no other means of finding it.

    • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

      I can see your point. Vinyl discs are too old for me to see myself browsing a store (too young to go buy), I do have a small collection of CDs.

      Still, I think we are just in the middle of evolution. Once things sort out and get less messy I see a bright future for the digital market. The behemoths problem is… well, a problem.. We do need more competition.

  • John S.

    Hey Philip: Get a clue! You went to college for nigh on a decade and you can’t see that all your “Hey I’m entitled to have all this free music ’cause I’m from this new generation of idiots that thinks that everything grows on trees, blah, blah, blah…” I got news for you Philip: “Mumford and Sons” cost money to make and produce, and just because it was made 20 years ago, doesn’t mean that the daughter of Mumford and Sons shouldn’t have her parents’ royalties that SHE RIGHTFULLY OWNS. Someone owns the rights to the song “Happy Birthday.” You know why? Because they sat down and worked hard on it! Not because they were some some bum with a false sense of entitlement. Why don’t you work at your think-tank for free? No time like the present, right? Would/could you do a good job if you didn’t get paid? People wonder,”Why isn’t music very good any more…?” It’s because PEOPLE STEAL MUSIC. When you don’t pay for it, that’s stealing ,Philip. Didn’t ma and pa Brocoum teach you that? Didn’t that get included with all those classroom hours that you logged? I saw Mike Lombardo’s Smackdown on YouTube. And I happen to be a music industry professional that has paid my dues. I have 24 years experience, several gold and platinum awards and one Grammy nomination. I ALSO taught public school for one year before I decided to risk everything and follow my dream of being a recording engineer/producer. I identify with your feelings of frustration over unruly kids in tough, city public schools, but perhaps you can identify with mine? You know, that Radiohead record never recouped. Most didn’t pay anything and just took the record. Radiohead isn’t doing that again. They can’t afford to. Learn the facts, please. This has nothing to do with gay marriage, by the way. Things cost money. Leonardo Da Vinci got paid to paint the Mona Lisa. Michael Angelo got paid to paint the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel. How would they feed and clothe themselves in your “free, modern, the future is now,baby” world? I’m tired now but I’ll be back…

    • Anonymous

      Dude, use paragraphs or GTFO

      actually the content you write is just dumb, do not pass go, do not use paragraphs, just GTFO

      • John S.

        Sorry “dude” I guess your pea brain can’t read more than a phrase or understand a half second sound bite. Didn’t know i’d be rolling with the cretins…

        • Mighty_Kapitalist

          John, you are the retard! You defend your oppressor… I imagine that if you were a Jew in Germany in 1935, you would be a member of the Nazi party…. The recording industry steals from me… But it’s for my own good… Let yourself be led to the gas chamber if you like but don’t force us to follow you!

        • http://natanael.posterous.com/ Natanael L

          Seriously?

          “Someone owns the rights to the song “Happy Birthday.” You know why? Because they sat down and worked hard on it! Not because they were some some bum with a false sense of entitlement.”
          No, they DO have a false sense of entitlement. You know why? Because the basic melody and the structure was created in 1893, there are NO proof that the big cmopany that owns it now REALLY owns it since the whole copyright status is unsure, the melody is TOO SHORT to deserve being called creative, etc… There are so many flaws and so much stupidity in the attempts to defend it that only idiots would!

          “Would/could you do a good job if you didn’t get paid? ”
          Creative Commons, Jamendo.com. 90% of what’s on Youtube (although the quality there often is questionable, there ARE great stuff there).
          http://projectlondonmovie.com/

          “People wonder,”Why isn’t music very good any more…?” It’s because PEOPLE STEAL MUSIC. ”
          Nope. It’s because the big companies don’t want to pay for quality, it’s just easier for them to flood radio and TV with crap.

          “When you don’t pay for it, that’s stealing ”
          Nope, not at all. Not by ANY definition. It’s *WHEN YOU TAKE SOMETHING AWAY* that you are stealing. Creating copies is something different.

          “Leonardo Da Vinci got paid to paint the Mona Lisa. Michael Angelo got paid to paint the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel.”
          They did work for hire. *REAL* work for hire, not Hollywood-work-for-hire (which is what it’s usually called, and which also is the reason for why most artist DO NOT own their own copyrights).

          Also, the biggest pirates are the people who ALREADY PAY THE MOST MONEY for music, etc. So you’re talking to the wrong people.

        • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

          Paragraphs. Yes, makes your argument more organized and fluid. I’d advise you to use it.

          But nvm that, you know that CAPITAL LETTERS tend to stand out and so I first read your capital letters and (not surprisingly) thought “Oh, a copyright Troll. But I’m feeling like crushing his argument so let us read on.” So let us start.

          “…shouldn’t have her parents’ royalties that SHE RIGHTFULLY OWNS.” Yes, because a million years copyright life span seems fair and it should feed their children, grandchildren, grandgrandchildren and all the generations after them. No. Even when you inherit physical things you have to put some effort in taking care of it. A house needs maintenance and an upgrade in internal and external appearance sometimes to suit your needs. And oh you have to – may God forbid – WORK to keep it in good shape. But it’s not good analogy. In any case, whoever created made enough money with it, what’s fair is fair.

          “Someone owns the rights to the song “Happy Birthday.” You know why? Because they sat down and worked hard on it!” SERIOUSLY?!?! ARE YOU SERIOUSLY POSTING THAT?! Please, stop embarrassing yourself. I often sing a dirty parody of the song for my friends in their birthdays. I think I should go pay for the copyright. Not.

          “Why don’t you work at your think-tank for free? No time like the present, right? Would/could you do a good job if you didn’t get paid?” My mother often told me stories when I was a kid. Some of them she made up. I think it was a joy for her. And she hasn’t copyrighted or monetized any of these stories. So shut up, you are insulting my good mother with your idiocy.

          “People wonder,”Why isn’t music very good any more…?” It’s because PEOPLE STEAL MUSIC.” Good old Trolling catchphrase. Mainstream music isn’t good anymore because there are ppl like you running the big labels. Nobody steal music – wait actually they do, they shoplift CD stores so I’ll give you the benefit of doubt. Blame the governments, there should be more police officers on the streets. For your information, me and a group of friends download like there was no tomorrow and we buy legal music from what we download. Oh the thievery. My sarcasm hyperdrive has just gone from medium output to “WTF DUDE?!” output well over the roof.

          “I happen to be a music industry professional that has paid my dues. I have 24 years experience, several gold and platinum awards and one Grammy nomination.” Oh, that proves his point, go and die already.

          “I ALSO taught public school for one year before I decided to risk everything and follow my dream of being a recording engineer/producer. I identify with your feelings of frustration over unruly kids in tough, city public schools, but perhaps you can identify with mine?” Poor kids, thanks God you weren’t my teacher. Actually, you should be the one thanking God because while I did get marvelous grades I was quite the mischievous lil’ bastard.

          “You know, that Radiohead record never recouped. Most didn’t pay anything and just took the record. Radiohead isn’t doing that again. They can’t afford to.” Yet another example on how the labels screw the artists. But please, include citations. They might have lost in album sales (*****MIGHT*****) but I’m sure they earned a much more valuable asset: love from the fans, increased revenues from shows and bla bla bla[citation needed for the increased show revenue but not the love par as me, a non -fan, loves them for their attitude].

          “Things cost money. Leonardo Da Vinci got paid to paint the Mona Lisa. Michael Angelo got paid to paint the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel.” And they made many other free works before they were known enough. Then some1 decided to give them their money because they wanted, not because they were charged, got it? And Da Vinci, if memory serves, made several plans and prototypes that he wasn’t paid for. The crazy nut. Again, you are insulting my good mother you son of a bitch (pun intended).

          “How would they feed and clothe themselves in your “free, modern, the future is now,baby” world?” Perfectly fine, ppl would still pay for their works.

          “I’m tired now but I’ll be back…” No, please, don’t. We will be better without you.

    • Anon

      People don’t wonder why music isn’t very good any more, music is just great, they wonder why popular music isn’t very good any more.

      • Josh C

        Pop music isn’t good anymore because all those execs care about is money

        • Thehack3r

          I need a toilet. That reminds me if you want to buy top quality toilets check out http://www.toilet-shop.co.uk/ We offer the best range of toilets for people over 50, we’ll flush you away with our shareable toilet collection.

    • Guest

      It’s just sharing, and sharing is caring. Maybe people weren’t taught this by their parents. This modern invention of discs is rather dull, and missing lots of heart. When you see live arts at a theater, which would be quite hard to infiltrate without paying, it actually means something.

      So stop trying to justify that it is stealing when it is just cloning with no profit involved, when some of these artists/film producers are just using a modern invention, loophole if you will, to a load of money.

      Are you saying that libraries are breaking the law?

      If I go and lend my disc of your music to a neighbor to let him listen to it for a year is that wrong?

      I can name artists who are just shy of 50 who are still shredding on guitar live, improvising new solos during each song, now that is heart. Hearing something the same over and over, is rather boring with no heart. And not only that, but they teach their craft away from live gigs.

      People everyday go out, and work as slaves to get paid, it should be no different for artists.

      I go and play Happy Birthday on my instrument right now I am in trouble?

      I mean I just replayed it myself, isn’t that just about the same as downloading a copy of it?

      If I could clone food, just like how we copy and paste 1s and 0s to one another, would you be against that also?

      Sounds like you are just hurt that you actually have to go out, and work aka, playing your instrument live, like a real man does. It is just an art, you don’t need it to survive, and if the government keeps this up I can guarantee you the music and film industry will get hit hard. People will stop caring about it, since they will see how they are trying to control our communications through the internet. I bet you half of the stuff out there is put there by warez groups hired by big name producers to get their stuff out to the public so it will be talked about by word of mouth in return making them more money because of free advertising.

      Get ready to be hurt even more, my advice to you is to learn to improvise, your own footprint of your heart to share with the world one venue at a time. Your heart cannot be copied and pasted. Maybe imitated, but western music has limitations and to that I would say look into other tuning systems.

      No one is making money on filesharing, maybe ddl file host providers who aren’t policing their data centers, but take it up with those services.

      I love how people are in a fight to the all mighty dollar, it is disgusting these days. It’s fight or flight, and the fight is on.

    • mouse

      I completely disagree with you. Just because my parents once did something that a lot of people like does not entitle me to earn money from it. If, in the course of history, our forefathers only had to do one great thing, just one that earned money, and then they would be set for like and their children as well – where would we be. I don’t know and neither do you. Copyright wasn’t intended to last forever when it was created. Think of all the fun we would have missed out on if it was. Have you ever read “Little Women and Werewolves”? Copyright, in my opinion, should have a short time limit.

    • Anonymous

      Lies! You are a fat kid that lives in his mom’s basement. Oh by the way, somewhere in my bloodline a person invented fire. You still owe me one hundred billion trillion dollar. Muhahaha.

      • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

        Epic. Good thing we share this bloodline lmao.

    • Your_conscience

      You know the propaganda system works when slaves start defending those who enslaved them.

      John, your problem is that you cannot imagine the recording industry working differently. You are being brainwashed by those very people who take 90% of your sales for themselves and then force you to get on your knees and thank them for stealing from you.

      You are under the false impression that ONLY the recording industry can make an artist some money but you don’t notice that they are the ones going through your pockets. The thieves are not the music sharers, the thieves are people from the industry!

      You remind me of an abuse spouse who won’t lay criminal charges against her abuser because… Sheeeeeee loooooooooves himmmmmmm!!!!!

      • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

        John S. reminds me of Pavolv’s poor dog.

        The only difference being when the cash register dings John’s ears prick up and he salivates uncontrollably in anticipation of a reward for ripping off artists AND consumers.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001266008133 Jacoby Jennings

      making music isnt hard…if you are good at it.

    • Anonymous

      Can’t. Read. Eyes Hurt. Need. Paragraphs. Worse. than. Comic. Sans. MS.

    • Elisa ? Knockout™

      For someone with gold and platinum albums you suck at writing. Why make music if you’re not going to share it? As a matter of fact why speak if you’re worried someones going to STEAL every word you say? You see your old ass generation is dependent on old ass technology and the mangers taking 15- 20% out of your earnings aswell as the recording distributors brainwashing you that they’re protecting you.

      Well I have news for you, your outdated ways suck and it’s proof that the old ass industry can’t grasp the fact that I and many others can get FREE software, set up a recording studio from home labeling etc. And do whatever your old ass shit crap sucky music that no one listens to anymore, but old ass people who look like they came from a garage dump with long mated out bummy looking hair and smell like drunken slobs. Or a nasty smelling ashtray, Eww please I think I’m getting sick.

      My generation has the Internet WORD OF MOUTH. we have file-sharing we have YouTube we have independent sites that promote artist. Um if I’m wrong wasn’t Justin beiber a YouTuber before he became famous. I’m not saying people shouldn’t like him.

      Or how about lady gaga etc etc. See even they don’t mind sharing their music… But it’s the industry telling them they can’t upload their own videos on YouTube and yes artist get copyright notices on their own music. You don’t represent music you represent greed and your self indulged(BUY AND CONSUME) fat lazy ass.

      Oh and please don’t use Leonardo DI Vinci or Michael Angelo that’s an embarrassment to real artist which you are not.

      • Ahoy

        I’m genuinely curious as to how you can keep vomiting these sub-adolescent rants out into the public domain with feeling embarassed about it?

        • Elisa ? Knockout™

          Embarassed about what? Are you mad? I mean great choice in words vomit, yikes !!I’m sorry stop dribbling out words to get a thumbs up. Let me guess words like old etc get to you? Well too bad i’m not changing them nor conforming to you? You’re not the boss of me.Ahoy yourself outta here.I’m 18 and young that’s it move on and deal with it.

    • Zack

      There are several things you need to consider about the new generation. Considering the downturn of the economy, many of the new gen are either unemployed, or stuck in jobs with little blow away money> I myself am quite sadly unemployed, but making changes to do so.

      I am also aware stuff costs money to make, but as said in other articles around the net, the figures of money lost due to piracy is largely plucked out of the air and solely blamed on piracy, where a distinct downturn of economy would have a larger influence. In the age of File-Sharing, every person with a computer has a greater access to a larger pool of information, and it doesnt take much effort to do. Games, foreign movies, independant, UNSIGNED artists and foreign shows with subtitles which would probably never see the light of day over in the UK or USA can be enjoyed by thousands, if not millions of people, who would not normally see it.

      Media companies like yours should instead get on the bandwagon, and instead of fighting a thing which will be difficult to stop, instead come up with ways to make Buying a CD and better option, insentives lets say. Albums i have downloaded in the past i have gone out and bought because they were good, not because its legal, as i like supporting good things, like bands who release an album FULL of decent songs, and not just one or two decent, and the rest being crap. Being GOOD is a good direction, as most of any population wont buy crap, and considering the filesharing era, relasing crap and passing it off as good is ripping of loyal customers, who wont buy any more from you.Filesharing is try before you buy basically.

      Music is as good as ever, if you put some effort into looking online and finding some independant artists. music ISNT reliant on companies like yours as much anymore, as companies like yours insist on releasing garbage… which is fundamentally why you lose money. If i buy something from a person that is shit, i aint going to buy from them again, its just good sense

      For the record, there is a HUGE difference between stealing and filesharing. Stealing, by definition is taking something that doesnt belong to you (as in an item, or car), Filesharing is INTILLECTUAL property theft, and is Civil, not criminal like the RIAA etc are making it out to be.

      Yea. i realise what i`ve posted here is echoed in other replies too… but yea, i`m sure you get the jist

  • http://twitter.com/__BammBamm Pavel Angelov

    I’m an avid file-sharer and am trying to convince everyone who’d listen that pirating music is good for it BUT these arguments were pretty weak.

    Bands like Radiohead and Nine Inch Nails will make money out of anything they release. This is awesome for them but say nothing about smaller artists.

    Live music is great… unless you don’t want to play live. Say you produce electronic music without being a DJ. Or you play in a band but don’t want to leave you family for most of the year to tour.

    Downloading stuff is, of course, much more convenient… but the next point is about iTunes, which offers more or less the same in terms of convenience.

    (And we all know how evil iTunes are, don’t we?)

    • John S.

      How is pirating (aka STEALING) “good”? Don’t you work for a living?

      • Anonymous

        Do you not know the definition of stealing? It’s when the original owner no longer has their original product.

      • Jeeeebusss

        John S. you are so wrong!

        Sharing is not stealing! Sharing is caring!
        Sharing is being generous! Sharing is being helpful!
        Sharing is to multiply that which is scarce (like Jesus did with the fish and the bread)
        Sharing is being considerate
        Sharing is loving
        Sharing is survival
        Sharing is Godliness

        Copyright on the other hand is greed, pure and simple and greed is wrong!
        Greed is selfishness
        Greed is excess
        Greed is rapacity
        Greed is voracity
        Greed leads to murder, theft and violence
        Greed is extinction
        Greed is suffering….

        Human advancement takes its root in sharing and caring. Copyright has only had one effect, to slow human advancement to a crawl!

        You are the worst type of human possible, greedy, selfish, heinous… You should hide in shame !

        • Last Letter

          If sharing is so great, why don’t you share your money with the artists?

        • http://natanael.posterous.com/ Natanael L

          @ Last Letter:

          Most pirates do already.

        • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

          @Last Letter: I do. And I would share more if more artists had donnation buttoms and FLATTR.

        • John S.

          Hey man, “share” all you money with me! LOL!

      • Anonymous

        It’s not known as stealing. It’s considered, by legal definitions, to be copyright infringement. When you download a song or movie, you are not stealing. You are committing copyright infringement. Stop trying to put your obviously biased spin on things. The law does not qualify it as stealing.

  • Anon

    I’m buzzing on a few g’s of Charles right about now. I have nothing to add to the convo, but it true spirit, I thought I should share before the RIAA/MAFAA etc stopped me.

  • Kurt Riley

    My name is Kurt Riley. I’m an independent artist. I’ve recorded one studio album, “Brighthead”, and two singles, “Sunshine” & “PicturePulse”. Thanks to the Internet, I’ve heard from people in Russia, the UK, Brazil, Australia, and all over the United States who love my stuff. And I never would have been able to reach them if not for 21st century technology.

    Do I feel that I deserve to be reimbursed for my hard work? For the thousands of dollars I’ve put into making music? Absolutely. I want to work for a living. But I’m not foolish enough to believe that filesharing is destroying the ability to use my talents to feed myself. If anything, it’s allowing me to do so when record labels left and right have turned their noses up at me, and yet thousands of people love what I do.

    The future is here to stay. And it’s nowhere near as dark as the prophets of doom would have us believe.

    Now for the shameless plug. (it’s part and parcel of this age. lol.)

    http://www.kurtriley.com

    Torrent to your heart’s content. :)

    • Anonymous

      Plug all you want :) We love independent artist. I’ll have a look later today.

    • Elisa ? Knockout™

      Your music is sexy ;) torrentfreak should interview you.

    • Elisa ? Knockout™

      Your music is sexy ;) torrentfreak should interview you.

      • Kurt Riley

        Lol! Thank you! I’m down if they want to interview me. I’ll wear my Sunday best.

        • Elisa ? Knockout™

          Your welcome Yeah I’m sure they would.

      • Kurt Riley

        Lol! Thank you! I’m down if they want to interview me. I’ll wear my Sunday best.

    • Kollin

      Right with ya there dude. I am in an independent artist as well. We recorded our first EP a couple months ago and thanks to the internet and “sharing” people from across the country and some parts of the world recognize what we have created and that is what music is about. Back when vinyls were still popular, the musicians and recording companies did not produce music solely for a profit… they did it because they have the passion for music that has been slowly dying off in these past decades. It is not what profit we get that keeps us and our music going… it is our passion for music and to spread to the world a different type of music no has heard of that people will listen to is what keeps us going

    • Sandy

      Kurt, I listened to your music and it’s quite good. I wish you lots of luck in your career

    • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

      Ah the joy. You bet I’ll be the one giving you MY money if your music is good. Hopefully you got a flattr button somewhere.

      Also, John S. Anon-e-mus, Jack Murdoch. Care to explain this?

      I honestly lol’d now ;)

  • Jimmyjazz

    Philip is a tool because he is either ignorant of or just doesn’t know that music sharing online was being done before Napster was ever thought of. People were doing it on Usenet & David Bowie released music on the internet in the mid-90s.

  • Anonymous

    Torrent is the best thing that happened on the internet.

    http://black1blue.blogspot.com/2011/07/google-joins-face-recognition-party.html

  • Blaze Curry

    Good article.
    And only a few sock puppets out today. Nice.

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  • Wailer!

    And I want to remind everyone that most recordings (LP/CD) feature 2 or 3 good songs and the rest tend to be filler. I’ve never heard an artist apologize for that bait-and-switch most of them are guilty of.

  • http://noconversation.com Chris.

    An hour to rip a CD? What is this, 1996?

  • Seagler

    I believe file sharing or stealing isn’t good for music, this article is designed to make you feel less guilty about destroying the music industry. That is if you really like lady gaga and J-lo, then your safe. But if you enjoy a band who is aloud to take a break from touring and live shows to write an influential album than forget it cause these bands who have signed contracts with companies now owe money these companies and have to pay it back.

    So its big businesses fault, wrong again. If it wasn’t companies making billions off of big acts like Jackson, the Stones or Elton John for example, they wouldn’t of had the money to take chances on bands like Nirvana or Pink Floyd.

    itunes makes money but not for the artist, itunes “is” Big Business and you may have been brainwashed by Apples hippie attitude but they’re in it for themselves. Because people only buy their favorite song on itunes and not the album the band sees only pennies of that 99 cents. No bodies getting rich off of itunes except for apple.

    • Elisa ? Knockout™

      And you’re exactly the reason the industry will never advance with that state of mind.Um you do realize their are independent artist that use file-sharing, is that considered stealing? Your opinions are very biased and self serving to you. Not everyone has to be a lapdog to the industry.

      • Seagler

        Hey if insulting me makes you feel okay with file-sharing or lets call it what it really is, downloading full albums from pirate bay for free. Fine. The truth is most musician’s independent or not will have a family and will need money to support that family and when touring can’t pay the bills they’ll have to get a job and give up their musical career. Because people can’t live off of thank you’s. I’d like to see a band aloud to be a band and grow into maybe my favorite band before there forced to give up due to financial circumstances. So pretending you have a good cause for taking music for nothing is delusional. Just take responsibility and admit you don’t want to pay for music.

        • Elisa ? Knockout™

          Who said i was insulting anyone? Secondly i see it rather insulting that you assume I’m downloading from “the pirate bay”, which by the way is nothing wrong with “The pirate bay”. I consume more than i should. It’s obvious you don’t see that those same people you call pirates. Are and could be your consumers, customers and fans!!!

          Generalizing people and making people, who’d actually listen to your music have to listen somehow.

          Are you saying “Sam” should tell “Shirley” that “Oh hey I have this song from this artist! But um, You can’t listen to it cus you have to pay me first.”

          Sam would say, “screw you i will go listen to someone else”. Do you not see the greed that most artist possess?

          Third of all, YOU CAN’T EXPECT PEOPLE TO JUST BUY SOMETHING WITHOUT HEARING IT. If it has someones taste they’ll buy it. Something called “conspicous consumption”. But you can’t expect people to just go to the store buy a cd. What if the consumer doesn’t like your music? What do they do then?

          You can’t get your money back. The consumer, customer, fan comes first not the artist. Sorry to tell you. If more artist, LABELS, producers etc.. Embraced the Internet, which half the fucking world goes to these days. You might learn that using the Internet as a free open market can get you more fans and setting up concerts, selling items like shirts etc.. Then you’ll notice you’d have more to look forward to.

          I’m 18, I play guitar, sing yada-yada etc. I go to school, I have a job etc. So sitting around just waiting for people to buy and what if they never heard of you? It’s just biased as I’ve already said to you. The only delusional person around is you and all the other anti-pirating scumbags looking to sue Larry Moe and fucking curly. It’s not the people killing the industry, it’s the industry killing itself.

          Finally, I’ve never ever heard of an artist going to the unemployment line. Because of a lost sale that’s simply the most phoney line I’ve ever heard, AND A MAJOR INSULT TO ACTUAL PEOPLE THAT AREN’T WORKING.

          Pretty shameful an 18 yr old female has to tell someone way older how to run a business. Which is what this all is.

          SHAME ON YOU.

        • Elisa ? Knockout™

          One more thing it’s their not there. I’ve always wanted to say that. Secondly I should have mentioned. Not all independent artist think like you. They think like me. ;)

        • Anonymous

          The truth is there is no shame in having a regular 9 to 5 job. You almost make it sound terrible. Also, you don’t give up your musical career just because you have to work. You want proof of that? Ever hear of Stephen King? Best selling author? Way before he hit it big, he had to work as a teacher and if memory serves me correct also as a gas station attendant to support himself and his family. All the while writing short stories and randomly selling them to magazines. Eventually he did hit it big and went on to being able to write full time. (I believe the book that made him huge was “Carrie”.) But before that he did not give up his career. Or better said, he didn’t lose his ability to write just because he worked a regular job like everyone else. Most people don’t get to live their dreams and work doing what they really want to. It’s a fact of life. And there’s nothing wrong with that.

          Heck, I have 2 jobs. One working as a clerk in an office. Another as a provider. On my off time, I repair computers. Do you think I like doing any of that? Well, truthfully, I do. I prefer working with computers, but the others aren’t terrible and I can handle them. Know what I wish I could do? Just write. I have an amazing imagination (so I’ve been told, and again, truthfully, I don’t think I do). I love writing. Short stories, poems, songs, commercial ideas, etc. I write in my spare time and don’t get paid for it. If I “sell” anything it’s to friends or friends of friends. I never make more than a few bucks off it, and more often than not, it earns me a beer or a meal (and by meal I mean a combo from Mickey D’s or something, nothing fancy). Do I mind? Nah, not really. Why? Because I have jobs that earn me enough to pay the bills (barely, but still). And I write because I love doing so. Not because I hope to hit it big, get famous and get rich off it.

          Also, I’m not sure if you’re aware, but on average, people DO NOT buy albums anymore. Sales these days are all either digital (whole albums or singles). And while you make it sound like no artist can make any money from a single sale on iTunes, I’d beg to differ. 1 single sold, sure, they’d get very little. A million copies of that same single… see what I’m getting at here?

          Also, I really hate that people who try and have this “I’m not the criminal here” attitude, which you’re somewhat giving off, can’t seem to understand one basic fact. File sharing DOES NOT equal stealing. File sharing in the eyes of the law is copyright infringement. (F*ck. I really hate having to repeat myself over and over.) There is a difference between file sharing and actual theft. The laws have made the distinction, I believe you and others on here who think like you should too.

          I mean, there are plenty of artists who have no problem with file sharing and think it is actually good for music. There are filmmakers, writers, etc who feel the same way. I know there’s a website that has page after page after page of those people saying they have no problem with it and support it. I can’t remember the name of the site at the moment though, or I’d share it with you.

          Also you shouldn’t make assumptions about people downloading. Saying they just don’t want to pay is very presumptuous of you. Some albums aren’t available for sale. Others can’t be found in some places. Prices of albums in some places are so ridiculously exorbitant that it makes them not worth buying. Some people download because they may not have money. That doesn’t make them bad people. There are all kinds of reasons.

          Finally, and this is a personal hang up of mine, it’s “allowed” not “aloud”. You said it twice in two separate comments and it’s been driving me nuts. I’m a stickler for spelling. I try not to make corrections if their minor, but come on. That was pretty much just screaming at me for a correction.

    • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

      Mister, please read Kurt Riley post above. I can see how we are destroying the music industry. Oh wait, I am! I’m using flattr, I’m donating directly, I’m going to live shows. Care to give me a good service that I can get songs easily and for sane prices? iTunes is almost there. I don’t like Apple though =(

  • Rachel

    Seagler’s right…and I am an Indie artist as well , work very hard for no money…but love the music..
    http://www.rachelwalkertrio.com

    “You’d kill your Grandma???”
    Rachel

    • Elisa ? Knockout™

      YAY to female artist ;)

    • anon

      Maybe you’re just shit?

    • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

      Sweetheart, if your music is good, it’s within my earnings capabilities and you have ways to donate I’ll send money towards you. But Seagler is an @$$ and you don’t want to get to the wrong side of the music lovers ;)

  • Brudda

    my parents taught me sharing was a good thing to do

    sorry, i will obide by them

  • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

    I’ve been trying to think of summat witty or clever to post in response to Phil’s excellent article – but it needs nothing other than a simple “thanks for sharing your time, work and wisdom with us”.

    Much appreciated.

  • Kurt Riley

    Elisa Knockout, I think I’m in love with you.

    • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

      I honestly LOL’d!

      Elisa, the heart breaker ;)

      • Elisa ? Knockout™

        Hush, lol let me enjoy the moment ;P

    • Elisa ? Knockout™

      Aww blush blush thanks ;)

  • Guillermo Marraco

    I’m sure that you heard about Shakira, Ricky Martin and Mexican garbage. But you never heard of the real Latin stuff:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-cPi-0fz9k
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tod_8UFu30g
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmq7BVcGmlc
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrGLUIkA4dk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPeiU6RqIjA

    Why? Because you only hear what the music industry wants you to hear.

    With Internet is another history. Economic interests can’t control you. Music industry: go to hell.

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    Filesharing isn’t new to the music industry. It’s just in a different format. Back in the late 90s, my friends and I copied plenty of music CDs onto cassette tapes. We also spent a lot of time at local record shops buying music.

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