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ACS:Law Anti-Piracy Lawyers Are Copyright Infringers

Lawyers ACS:Law have entered the anti-piracy revenue generation scheme previously inhabited by Davenport Lyons. They write to alleged file-sharers demanding payment of hundreds of pounds or face legal action. However, those same individuals can point the finger straight back, since ACS:Law are copyright infringers themselves.

We recently reported that ACS:Law appear to have taken up where notorious UK lawyers Davenport Lyons left off, sending threatening letters to alleged BitTorrent and eDonkey copyright infringers demanding payment of hundreds of pounds or face legal action.

Sadly, ACS:Law don’t appear to be practicing what they preach, despite taking the moral high-ground with the hundreds of recipients of their letters.

In an article published on their site entitled “20th Century Fox hit by illegal downloads” (Google cache copy here, since the page has been removed after we published this). ACS:Law appear to have taken the easy option and instead of writing their own article, chose to cut and paste paragraph after paragraph of other people’s work, passing it off as their own, without so much as a link to any source or a mention of an author’s or publication name.

Paragraph 1 of ACS:Law article

Almost a month before Wolverine hit the movie theaters a workprint copy of the movie was “leaked” onto the Web. It was a copy that was half finished as far as the special effects were concerned with green screens and wire framed character models visible for all the world to see. The great fight scene at the top of the nuclear reactor was more stickman like drawing that anything to do with the actors. In the end it was an incomplete movie that really only left the majority of those that watched it wanting to see the real thing

Original source article: Written by Steven Hodson over at inquisitr.com

Paragraph 2 of ACS:Law article

AFACT’s director of operations Neil Gane thanked the member of the public who had called attention to the racket and claimed Australian businesses suffered greatly from piracy.

Original source article: Written by Suzanne Tindal for zdnet.com.au

Paragraph 3 of ACS:Law article

“That pirated copies of X-Men Origins: Wolverine were discovered amongst the haul is especially disappointing. The film was made in Australia, employed over 1000 Australians, engaged over 100 Australian companies and contributed over $80 million to the local economy. The flagrant sales of pirated copies of the film is a slap in the face to the hard work and creativity that so many Australians put into the movie,” he alleged in a statement. The film has not yet been shown in cinemas worldwide

Original source article: Written by Suzanne Tindal for zdnet.com.au

Paragraph 4 of ACS:Law article

The woman’s arrest and the discovery of the discs led police to what was allegedly a disc burner lab in Sydney’s Westmead. The lab allegedly had the potential to produce 378,000 pirated discs a year, worth $1.8 million on the street.

Original source article: Written by Suzanne Tindal for zdnet.com.au

Paragraph 5 of ACS:Law article

Marketed as one of this summer’s blockbusters, downloads topped 75,000 within hours of the film being uploaded to BitTorrent and 20th Century Fox, the studio behind Wolverine, said the uploaded version was “stolen, incomplete and early”

Original source article: Fraser McIntyre and Jennifer Whitehead for The Scotsman

Paragraph 6 of ACS:Law article

The computer-generated imagery had not been added, there were missing scenes, sound and music and Wolverine himself had not yet acquired his enhanced strength with the wires attached to the actor Hugh Jackman still visible on screen.

Original source article: Fraser McIntyre and Jennifer Whitehead The Scotsman

Paragraph 7 of ACS:Law article

Reviews based on an unfinished film and which have already cost influential Fox News columnist Roger Friedman his job. He was fired for commenting on illegal footage. Richard Mollet is from record label trade body the BPI. He says the industry lost around £200m last year because of illegal downloading.The illegal copy became available on the internet on March 30. According to the Hollywood Reporter, “at last year’s average ticket price of $7.18, the piracy could conceivably – though not likely – have cost Fox $28.7 million.”

Original source article: Fraser McIntyre and Jennifer Whitehead The Scotsman

Even though there are clearly no references to any sources, links back to the original articles or mention of the author’s name in the ACS:Law article, TorrentFreak contacted all three publications to double check that permission had not been granted. Of the trio, Duncan Riley editor of Inquisitr.com was most vocal, telling TorrentFreak;

“No, we have not given permission for the content to be used. What perhaps is the height of hypocrisy, besides the wholesale theft of the text word for word, is that the paragraph they have taken is from a post that argues that piracy helped Wolverine, and then they’ve added anti-piracy statements to the end.”

We must admit we are very confused. On the one hand ACS:Law speak constantly about how their clients suffer at the hands of copyright infringement, yet the company itself appears to have a different approach when it comes to its own dealings.

Just recently, a support site set up to help recipients of ACS:Law letters cope with their predicament was ordered to stop its activities by ACS:Law (under threat of legal action) after they objected to the link between the site’s domain name (beingscammed.com) and their firm. The owner of the site was forced to publish an apology on the site’s homepage. As expected, another site has taken its place.

ACS:Law have forced others to publish an apology on their site too after comments were made that the law firm objected to. In the interests of fairness, it seems fitting that that Mr Andrew Crossley, as main partner of ACS:Law, publishes his own apology on his site’s homepage for making use of other people’s copyright works and exploiting them for commercial gain.

Andrew Crossley was already fined by the UK’s Solicitors Regulatory Authority (SRA) for engaging in “conduct unbefitting a solicitor” (pdf) back in 2006. We believe that a law firm claiming to uphold copyright law on behalf of its clients but infringing copyright in the process warrants the same label, but we’ll let the Conduct Investigation Unit at the SRA decide.

And to those that think these infringements by ACS:Law are small ones to be brushed off or discounted, then in an ideal world, yes, you would be absolutely correct. No one should care about small infringements of copyright. No-one should have to write articles about petty copyright infringement, but these are the depths to which this arena has sunk.

But consider which games these threats and lawsuits are all about. Two Worlds from Reality Pump is available on Amazon for £12, Topware’s Dream Pinball 3D is available for under £10, Call of Juarez by Techland much less than that. At absolute best ACS:Law has evidence that copyright was infringed via an IP address for a mere second on a few kilobytes of these titles. For these equally small infringements, ACS:Law demand around £600 from the public to satisfy them and their clients, backed up by the threat of ruination in court.

That’s how low we’ve sunk. It must stop, all of it.

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  • ooo

    0_0

  • http://www.eZee.se www.eZee.se

    Hypocritical bastards.

  • Anonymous

    Well that has certainly put a smile across my face…

  • Go Pirates!

    what an enlightening article lol.
    and seeing the workprint actually made me want to see it more to see the finished product of all those special effects =P

  • Gasp

    These guy are nuts. But this is not first situation like that.

    Btw anyone one know any good sites for anons to gather and talk beside /b/ which is now full of cancer?

  • Anonymous
  • fayde

    I see they have no contact email listed on their site…

  • Gilbert

    Theres nothing to say ACS law actually put them there …it may well have been Tsang who maintains it..?

  • IMAGEBSUTER

    If that page goes down here is a screenshot of that infringing page xD

    FOREVERRRRRR! mwahahahaha

    http://bayimg.com/aaagIaACE

  • Absolut

    Ha ha ha ha

    Hats off to Enigmax :) Totally priceless.

  • Anonymous

    w0ot Plagiarism!

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  • r3loaded

    What a noob mistake. I’m sure many are annoyed with these guys for giving lawyers a bad name.

  • mister_playboy

    Nice catch.

    I sincerely hope that DMCA takedown notices will be filed against these hypocrites.

  • SL

    DMCA is for the US, the US laws dont apply to the world so a DMCA takedown notice is useless for doing anything.

  • Dellum

    Great job TF!

  • Ralonto

    LOL looks like ACS needs a course IP-101!

  • enter8

    Finally, some half decent reporting.

  • HelloAll

    QUote
    8 May 29, 2009 at 13:45 by Gilbert

    Theres nothing to say ACS law actually put them there …it may well have been Tsang who maintains it..?

    So? It is their website. Beyond any doubt. They are accusing 1000s of people on a lot less.

  • Gilbert

    True ..that wasnt meant as a snidey comment in favour of ACS mind.

    Just if he did put that there hes fucked up and Im one of the accused also and this report is a breath of fresh air for most

  • Brilliant article

    What a brilliant article. I applaud you! Thank you, and I will be sending a link to many many people.

  • Same in Canada

    The Conference Board of Canada did a similar thing recently, presenting US anti-piracy research as if it were its own. Although it later recalled the reports, few media outlets covered the recall, preferring only to publish the original story. Check it out: http://www.vancouversun.com/Business/Piracy+reports+scuttled+plagiarism+claims/1639548/story.html

  • Turbis

    What a douchebag.
    Threten people with legal actions and then go steal someone elses articles.
    What a douche

  • 1100110101

    IP and Copyright is one of a number of specialisms of this firm.

    http://torrentfreak.com/new-anti-piracy-lawyers-chase-uk-file-sharers-090508/#comment-558954

    Epic Fail!

  • Gilbert

    funnily enough its now nowere to be seen on the acs law website.

  • Red

    I’m not suprise. That’s what happen when your ass itchs too much.

  • Anonymous

    I am sure they will argue it is ‘fair use’ since they didn’t copy the entire article.

  • Anonymous

    8 May 29, 2009 at 13:45 by Gilbert

    Theres nothing to say ACS law actually put them there …it may well have been Tsang who maintains it..?

    Nothing ever uploaded on TPB was uploaded by TPB, nor can you read, watch or listen to any torrents directly on theyr site…

    On the other hand, you can directley read plagiated stuff on ACS’s site… so Gilbert (filthy anti-pirate lawer) GTFO…

  • Anonymous

    @engimax

    Hmm… Yes, it’s copyright infringement. But it’s also callous, boldfaced plagairism, which unlike filesharing, causes actual damage by robbing credit from the rightful authors.

    I don’t think the article should have just overlooked that.

  • Consigiliano

    So you guys agree in the title that file sharing is copyright infringing… Thus piracy is stealing and with the intent and knowledge of your actions. But don’t worry about Wolverine you all, he’ll bounce back.

  • Booty

    Would this not count as fair use? And its not there anymore?

  • asfdg

    I hope you guys are familiar with fair use laws, which is exactly what the case is here. Stop trying to so sensational news and actually research stuff.

  • Anonymous

    “So you guys agree in the title that file sharing is copyright infringing…”

    Nope…but I just stopped being nice…I treat people how they treat me…
    They have gone way to far with sueing everything and anything in the name of “poor artists”… they should die either in a fire or down in theyr own “laws”…
    Cheers :)

  • Dr Who

    @29

    Why then have they taken down this report from their website with alarming haste? Why so defensive?

    If they wanted to claim fair use and they were copyright experts as they seemingly claim, they should grow a pair and leave the report on their website as it stood.

  • Rabbit80

    Maybe thats who Reasoned Troll works for – I caught him plagarising in exactly the same way just the other day… http://torrentfreak.com/swedish-minister-takes-anti-pirate-bay-stance-090526/ comment no 33 ;)

    Seems to me that most of ‘em will have illegaly violated copyright at some point… they are all hypocrites!

  • Dr Who

    Post 30 should read @28, apologies.

  • Anonymous

    @Consigiliano
    “So you guys agree in the title that file sharing is copyright infringing… Thus piracy is stealing and with the intent and knowledge of your actions.”

    What the fuck? In what universe does copyright infringement = stealing?

    Lay off the drugs, son. They’re frying your noggin.

  • Absolut

    Under fair use rules, it may be possible to use quotations or excerpts, where the work has been made available to the public, (i.e. published). Provided that:

    the source of the quoted material is mentioned, along with the name of the author.

  • Anonymous

    @30

    They basically plagiarize the entire article. Fair use or not, it makes them look bad. Unprofessional. I am not too familiar with the copyright laws with regards to fair use but I assume it is a good argument here.

  • Anonymous

    @asfdg

    No, you should actually “research stuff”.

    Fair Use allows for limited use of copyrighted material without requiring permission from the rights holder.

    It does *not*, however, allow for plagairism.

    And plagairism is what ACS:Law committed. Copyright infringement is the least of their offenses.

  • Anonymous

    Personally, I think plagiarism and copyright infringement are two different things. Its like comparing apples and oranges.

  • LMG9

    Plagerism isn’t “Fair Use”. (doesn’t anyone here remember school and what they thought about plagerism??)

    However, they could have saved themselves this embarrassment by simply using proper form of referencing to give credit where credit is due, rather than just pretending it was theirs to begin with.

    What they did isn’t like torrents, imo. Torrents give credit to who created the original work, they don’t upload a song and pretend they sang the song and played the music theirself.

    What this Firm did would be akin to someone taking large chunks of lyrics and music from other songs, snipping these sections together in to one song and then claiming that they wrote, sang and played all the music and it was their own original creative work.

    And regardless of ‘who’ put it up on the website, these people know all-too-well that the partners are accountable and responsible for whatever their group puts out in the public forum under their name. Liability is one of the prices to pay for being the boss.

  • enter8

    Fair use involves credit. If you don’t acknowledge the author, that’s not Fair Use.

  • Anthony

    This article is a good catch, TorrentFreak.

    I enjoyed looking at the Google cache and comparing it to the original sources. Some legitimate journalism here, more worthy than the crap national news agencies throw around, thanks for sharing.

  • http://www.eZee.se www.eZee.se

    @Rabbit80, you may find this interesting with regards to your above comment:

    http://emptv.com/p/indiana-gregg-ian-morrow-sockpuppets

    Then go to wikipedia and actually check out the edits if you are feeling bored and nothing to do…
    personally i found it enlightening, but rather than force my conclusion onto you, i’ll let you connect the dots yourself ;)

  • Consigiliano

    Copyright infringement = Unlawful. I’ll go as far as to call it stealing. When you download a movie without paying for it, it’s tantamount to taking a DVD off a shelf in a store and not paying for it.

    That is stealing. Period.

    Frankly, I’m just surprised that the rising youth has such a messed up moral compass that they believe everything offered over the internet is lawful. Once we come to grips with that, ethical standards may go up.

  • Ralonto

    @ Consigiliano

    You’re out of touch with reality. How can you claim that a culture that is only accessible to those who have money is in any way ethical?

  • http://www.eZee.se www.eZee.se

    Consigiliano, hard to put you down as a troll, shill… or just a misguided moron drinking from the RIAA’s kool aid bottle.
    In case its the last, I’ll take 2 minutes to educate you.

    Do a search on google regarding any p2p case and in the comments you will have some moron talking about Copyright infringement being stealing and… you will have at least a dozen people explaining to said moron why Copyright infringement is just that: Copyright infringement

    Let me try to explain it a bit clearer if the above was too much for you to take in:

    Copyright infringement = Copyright infringement.

    Copyright infringement NOT= Stealing or anything else.

    Ah, that takes care of my good deed for the day.

  • Greg

    More crap on them, keep it coming.

  • Matheus Svensson

    Yes, ACS:Law should pack it in. While they may be happy to carry on damaging their reputation, they’re a small firm of middling solicitors, who appear not to be up to this particular task.

    No, it mustn’t stop. Not in the case of ACS:Law’s infringements. They’re a business. Businesses are expected to get it right. And, if they can’t afford to get it right, they shouldn’t be in business. An individual with a residential broadband connection cannot be expected to police it for copyright infringement. Such a task would be unacceptably onerous, far beyond the ability and resources of most individuals. If Andrew Crossley comes out with some guff that a member of ACS:Law’s admin staff was responsible for the article, then all I’ll say is, “tough.”

  • Anonymous

    Consigiliano sorry honey its not stealing

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  • MEee

    Consigiliano = ACS-Law employee, trust me he is.

  • Cujothemadog

    WE ARE ALL THE PIRATE BAY ;P

  • King Kong

    May I recommend a response to the ACS:Law, as flowers were sent to Roger Wallis’ wife during the Pirate Bay trial, I think banana’s should be sent to the ACS:Law.

    What a bunch of banana heads.

  • i-sac

    take a cd from store without paying = stealing

    take a cd from store without paying and sell it to someone = dealing in stolen goods

    take a cd from store with or without paying and claim it’s you who wrote/sang/played the songs = copyright infringement

    take a cd from store, pay for it and lend it to friends = sharing

    take a cd from store, pay for it and lend it to 1000 friends = massive sharing

    take a cd from store, pay for it, lend it to friends, who lend it to friends again,… = multiuser massive sharing

    even if multiuser massive sharing is untypical in the sense of “sharing” for some folks, it’s still sharing and not stealing.

  • pirate4ever

    Thanks! Great article!

  • +meh

    notice their site uses joomla?
    +meh

  • Stevie C

    haha epic fail

  • ALIS

    Total hypocritical bastars. I know that copying a little piece of text is totally different than copying a game that someone has used countless hours to make. But in the eye’s of the “law” it’s pretty much the same thing. Someone who doesn’t know what copyright infridgement means shouldn’t be accusing(extorting) others because they have supposedly downloaded something. Or if their ip has been logged to some bittorrent tracker/swarm without any proof they even downloaded or uploaded anything.

  • UltraleetJ

    oh god.. we still have people that hink one download = one lost sale? geez . I have bought much of what i’ve downloaded thank you . So this means that i got the cds for free because I bought them and then I downloaded the same thing over the internet or I ripped them (for easier cataloging & back up purposes, which falls under fair use in the US). What a great way of thinking. If we keep it up this way then probably proffits are neutral . In any case,I would b ashamed of these people if they were my business partners. maybe fair use applies but only in the United States . Again, other people think that file sharing hads an impact on the whole world just like it would in the united States and that’s already setting a mind scope that’s too narrow and discriminatory. Congratulations for the heads up on plaggiarism TorrentFreak . I’ll be sure to base one of my college speeches solely on this one. I would encourage the three or four recipients that suffered from plaggiarism to treat these people the same way. They have clearly been making a misstake since they had the idea that putting lawsuits to their imaginary friends would have solved the problem of filesharing and “copyright” laws. If this was so urgent why hasn’t the problem decreased and why haven’t people stopped sharing? why are many other torrent sites up? why are messaging clients, cell phone carrier networks, e-mail clients still capable of sharing files? because its popular, its part of it, and its what’s selling right now. Even if people don’t pay for it that would be selling like hotcakes right now. But that’s ok… I guess there’s no sense of entrepeneurship, no sense of adventure.. there’s however, a lot of chihldish fear.. a lot of unwillingness to WORK and to be competent. We musicians get paid per hour in a studio, not per cd or record we sell (not on behalf of the broken industry). This has been going on for quite a lot of time (even before computers were created). Musicians are dead and so are composers and why is the industry still winning? their families of course have moved to other jobs because of the sheer lack of income thanks to the industry. If this is too hard to believe, look up the album Afro-American Latin, which was done by Mongo Santamaria in conjunction with Mark Levine in the 70′s. But the record stores and everything decided to release it 31 years later (source, Mark Levine’s biography on the masterclass jazz book) . So this should give you a clearer picture of whats happening to great musicians like these (google them, they’re quite recognized). And if you doubt the source the book’s ISBN-10:
    1883217474
    . If you acquire it then congratulations, you might learn more interesting aspects on music and a number of skills that will expand your piano playing (if you are a musician)

  • Anonymous

    offsystem.sourceforge.net

    The OffSystem concept seems interesting, can the law forbid a server that have no blocks of information on it that can be called copyright material but instead a bunch of blocks like lego bricks?

  • hmm

    “…it generates revenue for rights holders and effectively decreases copyright infringement in a measurable and sustainable way.”

    I don’t see how their method decreases copyright infringements… not to mention “in a measurable way”

    Here is the actual truth…

    They keep sending letters… yet every day the file sharing community increases dramatically.

    They are fighting an uphill battle that they can’t possible win.

  • Consigiliano

    Copyright laws are there for a reason. Yes its an uphill battle, just like David and Goliath. In our scenario, David are the copyright owners themselves who employ agents to battle Goliath, the vast and evergrowing expanse of BitTorrent sites which threaten the basic ownership of intellectual property.

    The Copyright Revision Act of 1976 governs copyright law and protects the owners of a copyright of any original writing (writing is in used in broad terms to mean novels, music, movies, tv productions, etc…) from infringement. Copyright infringement occurs when a party copies a substantial and material part of the copyrighted work without permission. Permission is usually sought through consideration such as money or an item exchange.

    This law protects the authors of the works from unauthorized use of copyrighted materials. It is important to understand whether one has permission to download a movie, song, or tv show. If they do not, then it is unauthorized access and considered copyright infringement.

    For those who say that they usually buy what they download, there are many others who do not. There has been no study that proves one way or the other as to whether downloading intellectual property increases sales, but one can argue that when a movie hits theaters and a Camera version is released on pirate sites, revenue would eventually be denied to the authors and collaborators of the movie. I cannot state this more simply than this.

    • http://neuron2neuron.blogspot.com Ben Jones

      Consigiliano, Submitted on 2009/05/29 at 9:36pm

      For those who say that they usually buy what they download, there are many others who do not. There has been no study that proves one way or the other as to whether downloading intellectual property increases sales, but one can argue that when a movie hits theaters and a Camera version is released on pirate sites, revenue would eventually be denied to the authors and collaborators of the movie. I cannot state this more simply than this.

      Perhaps you missed this article from a year ago. http://torrentfreak.com/us-pirate-party-study-shatters-mpaa-claims-080709/
      No evidence in box office sales that ‘cams’ affect movies. This is from the industries own figures no less.

  • TheTorrent

    Woo! Good job TF, you have done it once again.

  • dairRIAA

    If my neighbour creates a replicating machine, and wants to copy my car I wouldn’t be upset because he wouldn’t be stealing it, only copying it.

    Does that mean a lost sale for the car company? Maybe or maybe not. He may not have chosen to ever buy the car in the first place so technically it is not a lost sale. Good luck on that one.

    I guess the same car company could sue public transit corporations, bicycle manufacturers, airline companies and even civil authorities for laying down side walks because they are all responsible for causing lost sales and destroying their profits.

    But, car companies do not extort or threaten people or buy politicians and judges so they could change the laws to suit their own financial needs. Only the RIAA/MPAA does.

    Stealing, illegal, etc. All of the terms thrown out to the media by the RIAA/MPAA in order to further their own agendas for their selfish financial gains pretending to protect the artists that they actually enslave.

    Their tactics are no more different than what religious fanatics do to oppress others. Just look at the US and how the far right uses lies, misinformation and fear in order to oppress the freedoms of the gay community to scare people in to supporting the agendas of religious fanatics.

    The tactics are nearly identical. Funny that.

  • Reflex

    You’re all STEALING, and it’s WRONG. You will be caught and fined for your theft. Pirates are all criminals that make company’s like the RIAA go bankrupt.

    Would it be alright if I came over and took your car? No, that would be stealing. Just like downloading songs, its stealing and immorally wrong. Everytime someone downloads a song, it’s one lost sale which is theft. Pirates have no appreciation for the artist and steal all of his/her work. Not to mention pirates never donate to help out these artists.

    The ACS:Law made one small mistake it’s not a big deal. The ACS:Law took the article down and no damages accrued.

  • @Reflex

    ahahhhahahaa bullshit much?

  • Pirates > RIAA

    @65

    lol…
    Is it me or is every Pro-copyright group highly uneducated? Thats why the “professionals” are doing their own copyright infringement and sticking it on their own website.

  • dairRIAA

    @65

    Do you visit reality much?

  • Anonymous

    “For those who say that they usually buy what they download, there are many others who do not. There has been no study that proves one way or the other as to whether downloading intellectual property increases sales, but one can argue that when a movie hits theaters and a Camera version is released on pirate sites, revenue would eventually be denied to the authors and collaborators of the movie. I cannot state this more simply than this.”

    I disagree no revenue was denied to the copyright owners they still have others streams to exploit and make money out of it.

    The movie industry see historical records sales in a global recession is this loss?

    Of course it is not, the music industry is seeing losses but you can credit that to management incompetency, no one is buying CDs because no one buy Discmans anymore, instead of offering thumbdrives shaped like little animals or the logo of a band they still think CDs are an option, and the own IFPI report shows that the only things that did fall was legacy technologies like vinyl, cassette tapes and CDs.

    History shows that TV and video recording equipment don’t cut into those revenues.

    But by all means go and control the distribution and try to squeeze more out off it and you will see what those supposed loses really are, they are not sales, they are not revenue, people who download wouldn’t have buy it in the first place or pay for every single instance of it there is so much that one can take from the money pool of society that by the way its not capable of self replicating and no where near infinity supply and once that limit is reached people will find other ways to acquire what they want and this will really kill the RIAA/MPAA.

    I for one am not buying anything anymore. If it’s not free I don’t wanna it and I don’t need it and I loved to buy DVDs and posters and books not anymore, until there is another scheme for movies and music I refuse to give my hard earn money to these people. I had it with these people and those legal maneuvers and with the lobbying. I can’t change the laws but I can change my ways now tell me how you gonna make me pay? will force me to buy something? I don’t download “illegal” stuff and I learn to appreciate those old movies in black and white LoL

  • Anonymous

    Stealing what?

    Air?

    I’m not buying anything from these people ever again, in the best scenario I can still view free movies and music in the worst I just have to grow an appreciation for that stuff before 1930 LoL

    Or people start making different models of business and those artists that don’t fall in line risk obscurity forever, ccmixer for the masses LoL

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Note:

    Be contrary to any kind of levy that will promote security to those bastards that robbed society from culture.

    Levys grant power to receive money even if you don’t use their stuff.

  • 7SeVeN7

    “, TorrentFreak contacted all three publications to double check that permission had not been granted”

    UUUUMMMMM enigmax, did YOU get permission to reprint those parts of their ORIGINAL stories,or are you GUILTY of plagarising too?

    • http://neuron2neuron.blogspot.com Ben Jones

      @7SeVeN7

      TorrentFreak is hosted in the US, and as such is subject to US copyright laws. Under US law, there are fair-use exceptions for reporting, which quite clearly covers this.

  • Anonymous

    LoL

    Now the funny thing is even the music guys from the RIAA now that they can make money from artists or the ex-employee from Sony would never had created the “sellaband” where people interested in some group or individual can invest(donate) to the group and all interests(money) are kept by Sellaband.

    How can that be?

  • puckU

    “45 May 29, 2009 at 16:21 by Consigiliano
    Copyright infringement = Unlawful. I’ll go as far as to call it stealing.

    hmm so your saying in relation this story that ACS:Law are guilty of the crime of stealing from
    Steven Hodson over at inquisitr.com

    Suzanne Tindal for zdnet.com.au

    Fraser McIntyre and Jennifer Whitehead for The Scotsman

    FOR THE PURPOSE OF COMERCIAL PROFIT ?

    Now that IS a CRIMINAL OFFENCE, “Comercial Piracy for profit” carrys a very large UK Prison Sentence remember ;)

    perehaps these people and everyone else for that matter, should initiate a “small claims” county court action against these executives in the firm.

    https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/csmco2/index.jsp

    while the page implys only money cleams, thats not the whole story.

    this official online UK courts site is infact the main portal for ANY “Small claim” you might wish to bring against these and other executives alegedly breaking any such UK criminal law for comercial profit.

    and your initial costs a very low for such “small claims” wuth the potential for the judges to move the case to a higher court should they deem your case werthy of the case law review in your favour.

    tune about is so much fun, useing the lew to fight back agains these firms Executives thinking their above the very laws they try and use against you…..

    go to it if you beleave you have a case, the courts will be simpathetic to small claiments as was seen in the many UK bank charges cases.

  • www.Torrentino.net

    woot woot, how ironic :P

  • puckU

    lets try that again, an edit option here would be a good thing some day.

    please delete 78 as you please.

    “45 May 29, 2009 at 16:21 by Consigiliano
    Copyright infringement = Unlawful. I’ll go as far as to call it stealing.

    hmm, so your saying in relation this story that ACS:Law are guilty of the crime of stealing from
    Steven Hodson over at inquisitr.com

    Suzanne Tindal for zdnet.com.au

    Fraser McIntyre and Jennifer Whitehead for The Scotsman

    FOR THE PURPOSE OF COMMERCIAL PROFIT ?

    Now that IS a CRIMINAL OFFENCE, as “Comercial Piracy for profit” carrys a very large UK Prison Sentence, remember ;)

    perhaps these people, and everyone else for that matter, should initiate a “small claims” county court action against these executives in the firm.

    https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/csmco2/index.jsp

    while that court page implys it’s only money claims, thats not the whole story.

    this official online UK courts site, is infact the main portal for ANY and all “Small claim” you might wish to bring against these and other executives alegedly breaking any such UK criminal law for commercial profit.

    your initial costs will be very low for such “small claims” £14 for paper forms if you prefer to do it that way at your loacal county court,rather than use the site.

    any “small Claim” has the potential for the judge to move the case to a higher court, should they deem your case werthy of a high court case law review/ruling in your favour.

    turn about is so much fun, useing the law to fight back against these firms Executives thinking their above the very laws they try and use against you…..

    go to it if you beleave you have a case, the courts will be simpathetic to small claiments as was seen in the many UK bank charges cases.

    why go after the executive rather than the firm, simple, they make it ppersonal averty time they send these demands, so you do the same and make them personally rresponseable for their actions in tthe name of “commercial Piracy For Profit”.

    at the very least, you might be THE ONE to get an injunction to stop them, and their kind following them, thinking they can No longer do this “demanding moneys with menace” legal paper work without comeback to themselves or their familys.

    forgive any typing errors i missed, bad typist ;)

  • dairRIAA

    Oh yeah, for those that run TorrentFreak, are you ever going to publish the legal threats that you get from the RIAA/MPAA and their minions? I’d also be interested in knowing how much they’ve offered you to sell your site. :)

  • 7SeVeN7

    thanks ben jones for clearing that up for me, being in Canada, im not really up on the fair use laws in the U.S. pretaining to written works

  • Matheus Svensson

    @78: Ben, while I agree with your sentiment, I think the reasoning is a bit more subtle. Hosting in the US doesn’t always equate to only US law. Firstly, there’s the question of where enigmax was, when she submitted the article to TorrentFreak. If that was outside the US, a court in that country might accept that the article was published by enigmax in that country. Secondly, it’s the drafting of the UK copyright statute and subsequent case law that puts the tight limits on jurisdiction. This contrasts with defamation law. Being resident in the US won’t always stop you being subject to UK defamation law, although ignoring any judgement might have a similar effect. With all that said, even under UK law, I don’t see how the TF article could be anything other than fair dealing.

  • LMG9

    @7SeVeN7

    It is basically the same here in Canada (fair-use an’ all).

    Plus, lets not forget that enigmax properly cited the paragraphs used in this article (thus given credit where credit is due, NOT pretending it was original work), which is what we were all taught to do in school and sadly many news-related publications like to forget to do (even though technically they should).

  • theman

    Where are their physical headquarters ?

  • Mike

    Those writers should send ACS:Law a letter demanding some money or else…

  • Anonymous

    “You’re out of touch with reality. How can you claim that a culture that is only accessible to those who have money is in any way ethical?”
    ————————

    because he’s not a self-entitled communist who thinks he deserves everything for nothing?

    as for the eternal semantics debate, if piracy is not “stealing” then by that same logic, neither is it “sharing”.

    how is sharing a finite resource such as one’s food the same as copying an infinite resource whilst leaving your own supply completely undiminished…the same?

    by your own logic, it’s not.

    I love sharing. But making a million copies is not sharing. The “sharer” gives up nothing. Hardly a selfless act. Pirates do not “share.” They take. and then take some more. and then they take again. all the while self-righteously (and ironically) refusing to share in the cost of development.

    the words you use to describe your actions are just as erroneous as your opponents.

  • Anonymous

    87 May 30, 2009 at 03:38 by Anonymous

    how is sharing a finite resource such as one’s food the same as copying an infinite resource whilst leaving your own supply completely undiminished…the same?

    How is sharing music equal to sharing food? Music will sustain you to work? music will protect you from nature? music do your work for you?

    I love sharing. But making a million copies is not sharing. The “sharer” gives up nothing. Hardly a selfless act. Pirates do not “share.” They take. and then take some more. and then they take again. all the while self-righteously (and ironically) refusing to share in the cost of development.

    People do pay artists you know every single time they go to a bar, restaurant, nightclub, show or buy any merchandise so because people don’t buy CDs and want MP3s and the industry don’t wanna give them that people should buy a CD that they don’t won’t to, that they cannot rip it to play on the new iPod and cannot share with anyone?

    And by the way show us something that proves a correlation between filesharing and loss of revenue.

  • Anonymous

    Can people die from music starvation?

  • Anonymous

    http://www.boingboing.net/2006/04/16/gw-bushs-ipod-contai.html

    Even the ex-president of the U.S. isn’t coy about ripping CDs why should the Joe on the streets be different?

  • Anonymous

    Massive lulz attack.

  • Shysters on parade

    Andrew Crossley IS a scammer, not to mention a total scumbag whose karma will catch up with him.

    Don’t like that, Crossley? Come get some, punk.

  • Meh..

    On the google cashed page Gane says “The flagrant sales of pirated copies ..blabla”, how many times we have to make it clear for all the money loving b—–s : Torrents are pure SHARING no one pays a penny.It’s like that old RIIA photo
    http://blogs.ubc.ca/ross/files/2009/02/riaa.jpg
    What’s next? confiscation of all mp3 players maybe? “quick arrest that kiddo who skates!yank his ipod”

  • Anonymous

    Thanks for your great article. It’s good to see journalism in action. Both sides of the story need to be reported.
    Keep up the good work!

  • Anonymous

    P.S.
    Responding to the pro-expansion-of-copyright lobbyist employees that post in these threads just make them feel effective.
    If you can bring your self to do it, ignore them;; it will make them feel impotent.

    Cheers! and remember, sharing makes the world go ’round…

  • $hadow

    How nice! This revelations just keep getting better and better, cant wait for the sumarized situation of all the latest events and notice the contrast between “justice” and “abuse of power”.

  • graphicartist2k5

    that’s always how it works: you go and point your finger at everyone else, blaming them for what they’re doing wrong, but you forget that you’re doing wrong your own self by blaming them and not FIRST looking at yourself to see if you’re doing wrong. if that’s not hypocrisy, i don’t know what is.

  • Rabbit80

    @87 Anonymous
    “I love sharing. But making a million copies is not sharing. The “sharer” gives up nothing. Hardly a selfless act. Pirates do not “share.” They take. and then take some more. and then they take again. all the while self-righteously (and ironically) refusing to share in the cost of development.”
    ———–
    So you let your share ratio go up to a million? Somehow I don’t think this is normal – i’d be surprised if most people averaged a share ratio of 10 or more! (Which would you have shared this file 10 times)

    At what point does copyright take effect anyway? for example if I have say 256Kb of a 1Gb encrypted, archived (say a password protected RAR file) movie have I breached copyright? That 256Kb is meaningless without the rest of the file so would the breach occur when I reconstruct the video, when I have all the parts or just a majority of parts (even though a majority may well be useless)? If I am sharing the file, and I give somebody else 256Kb of the file am I breaking copyright law? How can it be proven that this 256Kb is copyright protected without building the complete file?

    Answers would be welcome!

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  • Uhm

    time to get a bit, well what ever for having stuff to do. Maybe next year.

    lol’s funny how much it really takes for people to go beserk, to care about their own rights.

  • Think about it

    @ 62 May 29, 2009 at 21:36 by Consigiliano

    Perhaps you should go back to school then as that was not clear at all.

    First, look at Wolverine origins, then look at the box office gross. Then look at CAM downloads and their respective gross. Voila, increased downloads correlates with increased revenue. Or maybe you flunked math too.

    Second, plagiarism is copyright theft which is worse than copyright infringement.

    Third, If you believe someone is stealing your copyrighted work, you should report that to law enforcement. If you are law enforcement then you should be doing your job instead of falsely accusing people of crimes on here. If you want to inform people of the laws you are making you should have them published in the law books of your region. And if you are going to make claims back them up with references. Otherwise STFU. I’m assuming STFU means Stop Trolling For Undulation, ha ha.

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  • Mr Innocent

    Hi peeps,

    I have just received another letter by these people. They completely ignored or replied to my email i sent them some 2+ weeks ago which had a SEVEN day deadline for getting in touch with me or i would consider all matters on the subject closed, they ignored it and just decided to send out a letter this past friday with more threats. I also notice i have another 21 days, the email has changed, the address has changed and they basically ignore what you say. In my defence i informed them i haven’t done what they allege and would be willing to submit my hard drive for analysis at cost to them which once done and proven beyond all doubt i would sue there asses for falsely accusing me of something and harassment. I also mentioned that i had consulted a lawyer who deals with copyright and intellectual property rights who sends these type of letters out himself and who advised me on what to put in the letter. He himself told me that you cant pay them if you haven’t done it as that is admission of the crime and as you are innocent you don’t pay. but you can agree to never download, share or electronically store any of their games in the future which i agreed to…in fact i will go out my way to never buy their games and advise others never to buy or support their games or to even humour their honey trap torrents they illegally place on websites such as mini nova!!
    I also reminded them of davenport lyons ;) and asked if they knew them and that like many people on here all emails would be forwarded to watchdog at bbc tv.

    ps : I know that Acs [f]law or all their admin/legal teams read and have alerts to monitor comments on the internet so could i just say this : I HAVE NEVER DOWNLOADED YOUR CLIENTS CRAPPY GAME OR ANY OF THEIR SOFTWARE, I NEVER INTEND TO AND WILL ADVISE ANYONE IN ANY GAMES SHOP I GO INTO WHO I SEE BROWSING THEM NOT TO WASTE THEIR MONEY. I AM WILLING TO HAVE MY COMPUTER HARD DRIVE SEARCHED SOLELY FOR THE NAME OF THE GAME YOU ACCUSE ME OF AND WHEN IT IS NOT FOUND I AM AFRAID THE SHOE WILL BE ON THE OTHER FOOT AND YOU WILL BE IN COURT. YOU SEND LETTERS THREATENING COURT ACTION WITHIN 21 DAYS IF IGNORED YET YOU YOURSELVES IGNORE EMAILS THAT HAVE A 7 DAY LIMIT, IT TOOK YOU 11 DAYS TO REPLY AND YOU IGNORED THE EMAIL.

    Thank you torrent freak for all the articles you have been doing on this matter and hopefully these money scroungers will go back under their rock.

    By the way does anyone know why they have a new address and email n phone number etc ?

    ————————————
    I don’t mind this comment being used on other forums in its full length and linked back to torrent freak.
    ————————————

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  • Switeck

    This isn’t just plagiarism…I see something slightly more sinister:

    “No, we have not given permission for the content to be used. …from a post that argues that piracy helped Wolverine, and then they’ve added anti-piracy statements to the end.”

    For some reason the phrase “Not in MY name” comes to mind…

  • Anonymous

    “You’re out of touch with reality. How can you claim that a culture that is only accessible to those who have money is in any way ethical?”
    ————————

    because he’s not a self-entitled communist who thinks he deserves everything for nothing?

    Be careful, do not confuse communism with a better way of living. Everything to do with money involves corruption at some level. This is FACT. You can close your eyes & believe in something else but it will not go away.

    As for piracy…artists make huge amounts from box office sales and concerts. Not to mention all the other deals that go along with films and music.

    If I had a creative job I would enjoy it, not because of the money but because it would be something I loved doing. The business people that try to skim off the top need to stop being greedy.

    I download because I can’t afford to spend money on games and films that are over-hyped pieces of crap. The ones I spend my money on are the ones that I feel DESERVE my money and support.

    It costs nothing to any company for me to download a copy of the game. And if the copy was not available I would rarely simply buy it. More of a case of ignoring it completely until it pops up in the bargin basement bin. So file sharing actually makes me buy games I’d otherwise never have looked at.

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