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Anti-Piracy Lawyers Accuse Blind Man of Downloading Porn

As the mass-lawsuits against BitTorrent users in the United States drag on, detail on the collateral damage this extortion-like scheme is costing becomes clear. It is likely that thousands of people have been wrongfully accused of sharing copyrighted material, yet they see no other option than to pay up. One of the cases that stands out is that of a Californian man who’s incapable of watching the adult film he is accused of sharing because he is legally blind.

blurryMarch last year the law firm Dunlap, Grubb and Weaver imported the mass litigation “pay up or else” anti-piracy scheme to the United States, and in the month that followed they targeted nearly 100,000 people.

In total, cases have been filed against more than 200,000 alleged infringers, many of which are accused of downloading and sharing adult films.

A significant number of the defendants are likely to be guilty, but there’s also a lot of collateral damage. Firstly it’s unclear how accurate the evidence gathering techniques of the copyright holders are, and even when they have the correct IP-address it doesn’t necessarily follow that the account holder on file is actually the infringer.

Doe 2,057 in the case of Imperial Enterprises v. Does claims to be one of these wrongfully accused persons.

This May he received a letter from Comcast informing him that Imperial Enterprises had filed a lawsuit against him for illegally downloading and sharing one of their adult titles — Tokyo Cougar Creampies. To some people this title may seem inviting, but it’s not the type of content Doe 2,057 is interested in.

Not least because he’s legally blind.

“To be honest, it’s a little ridiculous. My movie-watching ability is nonexistent. My kids watch movies, but they are 4 and 6, so they don’t watch porn either. Well, hopefully they don’t,” the Doe told the Village Voice Media.

Although it’s not impossible for blind people to be interested in porn – after all there are plenty of auditory stimuli and interesting dialogues – it’s not really the target group for this type of content. So if this blind man is innocent, who downloaded and shared the movie?

According to Doe 2,057 one of his neighbors must have used his open WiFi connection to grab the file.

“I didn’t have time to set up the wireless network in my old apartment,” he explained. “I was working 18-hour days, so I just told my wife to go to Best Buy and pick up a router. She installed it, hit next, next, finish, and — boom — that was it. We lived in a very upscale building; there was no riffraff. We just assumed we didn’t have anything to worry about.”

But now he does have something to worry about, and that’s the few thousand dollars Imperial Enterprises is demanding from him in settlement.

Although it’s absolutely not certain that a judge will hold him liable the alleged offense, like many other defendants he believes that settling is the best option available. Hiring an attorney will cost just as much as the settlement fee, but without any guarantee that he’ll be off the hook.

“The sad part about this entire porn thing is it will cost more to go to a judge,” Doe says. “At the end of the day, I’ll probably settle and pay the fee to make this go away.”

And he’s not alone. TorrentFreak has spoken to several people who swore their innocence but paid up just to get rid of the threat.

The copyright holders and lawyers are very aware of the position these defendants are in, but they gladly take their money. With most neutral observers, however, the whole scheme should raise an eyebrow to say the least.

Can we really call that justice?

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  • hikaricore

    I bet he never saw this coming.

    • Dark

      burn L

      • Guest

        I don’t know how its in US, but if the judge says the guy is innocent don’t the company has to pay for the defense spending?

        • Friend of the People

          That’s technically at the judge’s discretion, but the answer is almost always yes.

    • Anonymous

      Blind people still watch porn for the audio track. It’s not like being blind means you don’t jerk off.

      • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

        As if the audio tracks on porn were that good for fapping.

        • FM4k

          “I have some cream for you…”

      • Anonymous

        than you just download an audio track…

      • Anonymous

        It’s funny though, because I to am legally blind, but with a good pair of contacts I can see just as well as anyone else. I think this guy is just trying to use it as an excuse to get off the hook.

        • Anonymous

          You are “blind” only to the people who hand out driver’s licenses and disability checks. Close your eyes. That’s what people who are truly blind “see”.
          Jerk.

        • shamil

          I don’t see how close you are to even being blind when all you need is some glasses or contacts like me. The guy in the article is clearly 100% can’t see shit blind.

      • Anonymous

        It’s funny though, because I to am legally blind, but with a good pair of contacts I can see just as well as anyone else. I think this guy is just trying to use it as an excuse to get off the hook.

    • Hrrr

      I’m glad I wasn’t drinking anything when I read this comment, because it’d be all over the keyboard. Best comment evaa!!

      LOL

      • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

        Indeed. I wasn’t that lucky but I managed to keep my keyboard dry ;)

    • http://tinyurl.com/ANoiXioNA-personal-info ANoiXioNA

      Sick…. but funny as…… Pun of the day…….

      +1 for borderline offensive joke……. or is it just plain old offensive ?

      I laughed anyway… But felt really awkward…..

      • Johnkeogh08

        fuck you and ur rick ya wanker

        • http://tinyurl.com/ANoiXioNA-personal-info ANoiXioNA

          lol.
          Don’t take it bad…… You live and you learn…… : )

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FCNK7C55CBUYFVSC5LNWKB322E Buglord

    well done, stealing money from the blind, what’s next, laying around on the street acting as beggars? or are you already doing that?

  • cyke1

    i don’t think he see anything “comin”

  • Travis McCrea

    If you read this and are not enraged then I genuinely feel pity for you. We need to stand up and make it this whole process unprofitable for the industry. Check out my latest post on Falkvinge.net

    • http://twitter.com/xRDVx xRDVx

      Well. I’ll put it up this way. it’s not that people are not enraged. It’s just that it’s pointless to do so. We’re just amazed by how low they can go and only pray that someone will see through it.

      That is, unless someone wants to start a revolution or something. Other than that, getting angry/mad/enraged/any other form of negative feeling is just not worth it.

    • http://fightcopyrighttrolls.com S.J. Doe

      100% agree. That’s what I wrote in my post a couple of days ago:

      “If you are not angry after reading this letter, you probably have very thick skin. I don’t, and therefore I better stop here, otherwise I’m risking speaking out not the best part of myself and later regret it.”

      Pretty close to what you just said, right? Just another proof that people posessing common sense and dignity react to this nauseous “business model” predictably similarly.

  • Friend of the People

    How tragically hilarious.

    It may be unimportant, but at an old folk’s home I used to volunteer at when I was 15, there was a blind man who had a big porn collection. One of the other residents said he liked to listen to them, and then… well, we all know what happens after that.

    • http://www.facebook.com/christopher.giles Christopher Giles

      You were 15 around a big porn collection belonging to a blind guy.. sure you weren’t in the room whacking as well or at least borrowing a few here and there for research purposes.

      • Friend of the People

        It was my job to clean the rooms and he didn’t make any effort to hide them. Besides, why would I need them? I had the internet.

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  • http://fightcopyrighttrolls.com S.J. Doe

    Half a year ago I was also scared and entertained two options: pay ransom or hire a lawyer. Now it is quite clear that that was a false dilemma. There is a third – and the only right way to respond – ignore. Yes, there is a tiny chance that you will be actually named in a lawsuit, but even then the intention of trolls is to wrestle you into paying, not to go all the way through to the actual jury trial. Though it is absolutely necessary to file a reply to the complain if named and served to avoid default judgement.

    http://fightcopyrighttrolls.com/faq/

    So if I could travel back in time, I would probably just ignore the entire matter. Do I regret what I did instead? No. I hope I helped a lot of folks to understand what is going on and make more or less informed decision. I hope I inflicted some harm to trolls’ immoral extortion scheme.

    Remember, trolls exist only because we feed them.

    • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

      That. I’d simply ignore or ask for further evidence since it was not the case (for the lulz). An IP cannot stand for itself as evidence in court ;)

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000617943487 Máté Bikfalvi

    Amazing man. Works 18h a day and is blind. Wtf does he do for a living? (please don’t tell me customer support)

    • Blackhole

      Or marketing. :-)

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PFCI5VRUCYT6AVBT3P6ILV3COI Ophelia Millais

      Sports officiating?

    • Anonymous

      He tests walls, street lights, fences and cars to make sure they are sturdy to specification.

    • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

      I used to work on a company where there were times of low work load and others where you’d actually work 24h a day. From my understanding it’s his case.

  • Ryzzo

    These schemes are raising more than just eyebrows as one patent troll has learned the hard way. Check out this story on techdirt for a 600k sanction against a lawyer filing lawsuits solely for the purposes of collecting settlements: http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110805/17230815417/patent-troll-lawyers-smacked-down-made-to-pay-sanctions-mass-lawsuits-followed-quick-settlement-offers.shtml

    The UK has made it clear that these pay-up-or-else schemes are not going to be tolerated with the sanctions against Davenport Lyons and the upcoming Crossley sanctions, and it seems that at least one judge in the US gets it as well. Hopefully we’re going to see the end of this scandalous litigation.

    I know that the blind man above thinks settlement the best option, but he should fight this and counter-sue for all court costs since he is clearly not guilty. I highly doubt that he would actually be taken to court with the trolls knowing they can’t win. If he tells them to piss off they’ll probably just go away.

  • Anonymous

    Well that took a lot of laughing. You never know he could have someone sit next to him describing the events. Ummm…. maybe not.

    His best option is to just tell them to go fuck themselves. He needs no lawyer and the odds of him ever going to court are as rare as the odds of him waking up tomorrow morning to find out that US national debt has just dropped to zero. That would be one hell of a party.

    Even had they tried to take him to court he only needs to send the court one letter asking for the case to be dismissed on the very good reason he has. And since he has never approved for any other person to infringe copyright on his connection then he is not liable for their actions.

    I think someone like the EFF needs to take a personal hand in this case when wanting to pay up makes him both blind and crazy. If the copyright sharks see some resistance then they would quickly drop his case as one of those “undesirables” that would only give them bad PR.

  • http://www.facebook.com/DzCADII Curtis A. DeHart II

    fap fap fap, who is that? fap fap fap…..

  • http://twitter.com/AlyssaBlindy Alyssa Blindy

    Absolutely ridiculous. This is getting more and more insane, and this is actually quite enraging. I am blind, and I know that a porn movie would not be something any blind person would have a reason to want. If they wanted that, they could go get something off of bookshare or from NLS which would be text, describing the acts or whatever. Stupid idiots. These trolls need to get a life. I guess people in the post about the MPAA winning a nutty lawsuit were right when they said the next person who would be chased would be blind. They were right. Damn it. They just want to show that just because someone is blind, no slack will be cut. This is just way down low. This is going lower than frisking hell. I hope those lawyers go to hell. Stupid retards. They’re blind. They might have sight, but they have no vision.

    • http://tinyurl.com/ANoiXioNA-personal-info ANoiXioNA

      +1 @Alyssa Blindy
      You don’t need eyes to see….. you need vision.

    • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

      100% agreed. Books can actually be way better than raw porn ;)

  • http://twitter.com/AlyssaBlindy Alyssa Blindy

    Frisking hell? I mean fricking hell. Lololol, the lawyers are frisking hell.

  • http://www.facebook.com/eric.boehm Jack Murdock

    How is that even possible….

    • Friend of the People

      Good question. Kinda depressing though. There may be some huge problems with piracy, but that doesn’t justify the steps that the lawsuits often take.

      • http://tinyurl.com/ANoiXioNA-personal-info ANoiXioNA

        “”justify the steps that the lawsuits often take”"

        no one can…. It’s plain as day…. blackmail in a letter.

        ACSlaw and the whole UK…. PAY UP or ELSE scheme wrecked the lives and reputations of many innocent people……

        Probably… most likely … the majority of people who get the letter’s are not the name on the isp account…

        • http://www.facebook.com/eric.boehm Jack Murdock

          There are many copyright lawyers who hide their interest in person gain behind a mask of righteousness it seems. This should be about paying artists for their work, but I wonder how much legal forms are profiting from all this?

        • http://tinyurl.com/ANoiXioNA-personal-info ANoiXioNA

          @Jack Murdock

          I actually liked one of you comments. +1 ( relative to … you know )

          Deep Blue Something Lyrics ….. Breakfast At Tiffany’s Lyrics


          And I said……….”What about……. Suing Blind man… for porn ? ”

          Jack said, ” I think….. I remember that story ? ”

          And….. as I recall……..I think…we both kinda agreed …on-it

          And I said…….”Well, that’s…….. the one thing we’ve got”

          Probably the eye of the storm tho ?…… eh Jack

          Ah well….. : )

    • Scary Devil Monastery

      Not the real “Jack Murdock” we’ve grown to know around here, are you?

      Or you wouldn’t be asking the question. I have more news for you – 12-13% of the ip-adresses used to generate these mass mails aren’t even properly adressed either. Try this link for a tidbit: http://dmca.cs.washington.edu/

  • A-Tuin

    How long before someone files back asking for class action? Unfortunately I don’t think there’ll be enough backing as all the does have no way of knowing who they all are. Or can is it possible to file and have the does as interested parties to be notified?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=875415416 Vincent T. Hunter

    Negligence for not securing his wi-fi, I can understand. If you leave the keys in your car and someone jumps in, steals it and smashes into my vehicle that I use to earn a living with, as the car owner, should you not be held financially responsible for not taking proper precautions to secure your vehicle?

    Works the same as wi-fi. If the defense is that he did not secure his wi-fi connection and thus someone robbed his bandwidth to do a crime (illegal download of an adult film rather than purchase it), then he was negligent and that negligence caused a financial loss (the revenue from purchase) to another party’s property. All they are asking is for the negligent person to pay up for the damages.

    The blind guy has the opportunity to sue his neighbor to recover his losses if he can prove it was the neighbor that did the illegal download.

    That said, I’m not sure if Tokyo Cougar Creampies has a purchase price in the thousands of dollars. It’s on sale at http://www.excaliburfilms.com for $13.94. I’m thinking that $13.94 would be a fare restitution settlement.

    • http://fightcopyrighttrolls.com S.J. Doe

      It seems that you arrived from the Moon yesterday. In a couple of recent TF’s posts “negligence” arguments were smashed to pieces. Or you are just being sarcastic?

    • Anonymous

      I’ll bite.

      Let’s answer your example with an equal example:

      If someone grabs your knife and stabs someone to death, should you be charged with murder? You were, after all, negligent for not securing your knife, right?

      How about taking your example a step further. We’ll say you didn’t leave the keys in the car, but someone started it anyway and ran into another car. Isn’t that negligence, because you didn’t properly secure your car against theft? After all, either way — wi-fi theft, vehicle theft, etc — the crime is theft regardless of how secure it is. The word of the day is ‘Intent.’

      • Ven

        The car analogy is close, but put more accurately:

        If your car is found slammed into your neighbor’s fence and nobody saw who drove it there, will you be held responsible? It might matter if you reported it stolen before it was crashed. Realistically, if you can’t provide the police with evidence that someone else used the car against your will or intent, the judge will decide that it is your responsibility to repair the fence.

        Still, I think our society trains us to understand the gravity of responsibility owning an automobile carries. I don’t think cable companies ever sit down and require customers to understand they could be held responsible in this way.

        I would agree that (ideally) users should be responsible for their networks, but so far I have yet to really see any case where the admin was displaying an unreasonable amount of ignorance when they left their network open or for the use of others.

        Can’t hold people responsible for crimes that nobody understands.

      • Ven

        The car analogy is close, but put more accurately:

        If your car is found slammed into your neighbor’s fence and nobody saw who drove it there, will you be held responsible? It might matter if you reported it stolen before it was crashed. Realistically, if you can’t provide the police with evidence that someone else used the car against your will or intent, the judge will decide that it is your responsibility to repair the fence.

        Still, I think our society trains us to understand the gravity of responsibility owning an automobile carries. I don’t think cable companies ever sit down and require customers to understand they could be held responsible in this way.

        I would agree that (ideally) users should be responsible for their networks, but so far I have yet to really see any case where the admin was displaying an unreasonable amount of ignorance when they left their network open or for the use of others.

        Can’t hold people responsible for crimes that nobody understands.

      • Ven

        The car analogy is close, but put more accurately:

        If your car is found slammed into your neighbor’s fence and nobody saw who drove it there, will you be held responsible? It might matter if you reported it stolen before it was crashed. Realistically, if you can’t provide the police with evidence that someone else used the car against your will or intent, the judge will decide that it is your responsibility to repair the fence.

        Still, I think our society trains us to understand the gravity of responsibility owning an automobile carries. I don’t think cable companies ever sit down and require customers to understand they could be held responsible in this way.

        I would agree that (ideally) users should be responsible for their networks, but so far I have yet to really see any case where the admin was displaying an unreasonable amount of ignorance when they left their network open or for the use of others.

        Can’t hold people responsible for crimes that nobody understands.

        • Anonymous

          Your example can be applied to anything, from murder to copyright infringement without wi-fi. Anyone can be “framed,” even if the actual criminal (in the case of the example) didn’t mean to run into the fence.

          The point was negligence and whether or not a given person is liable for not securing anything and everything simply because someone might use it for the wrong purposes.

          So yes, if I went into your house and killed whatever living thing is closest to you, and you had no proof, you’d be a prime suspect.

          And correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe the justice system does not accept ignorance of a law as a valid defense. Luckily it isn’t quite stated anywhere that people are liable for what goes on in their networks.

          I also disagree that people should be responsible for their networks, just as ISPs are not responsible for what goes over their tubes. After all, where do they draw the line? If I am responsible for leaving my network open, then am I responsible for providing the entire neighborhood with internet? A town? Making open wi-fi illegal just to stop a crime they cannot even accurately prove was committed is idiocy.

        • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

          I don’t understand all the discussion. Open wireless networks are legal in the US. Routers come with the option of a separate open wifi. I’d leave it running for the ease of use (cell phone, ppl visiting my house, some stranger walking on the neighborhood that needs an internet connection to check the map to find himself, [insert useful attributes of an open wifi at home here[).

          And given the current legal environment in the US I’d certainly leave my open wifi turned on.

          So, considering the burden of generating adequate evidence falls under the plaintiffs responsibility this man can claim it’s some teen downloading trough his open wifi and the company behind the porn movie has to generate evidence that he was the one downloading.

        • I am Spock

          “I would agree that (ideally) users should be responsible for their networks”
          As a matter of fact I am responsable for my network, I keep it open for anyone to use, because in this economy alot of people cant afford ‘net access in my area! I personally dont give a rats ass if some jerkoff lawyer believes it neglegent to do this,
          THE F’ING LAW isnt on the books that says Im required to lock down my router so you bunch of ambulance chasing assclowns can take a big middle finger and go FUCK OFF!!

          (rant not inteneded for VEN)

          Share long, and prosper®

        • Scary Devil Monastery

          @Ven

          “I would agree that (ideally) users should be responsible for their networks, but so far I have yet to really see any case where the admin was displaying an unreasonable amount of ignorance when they left their network open or for the use of others.”

          That, and in practice there really is no way for an ordinary user to be all that responsible for his network. It’s like owning a thousand-acre square of woodland and being legally bound to observe that no one is sneaking onto the premises and performing crimes. If that were the case, no one could own land at all without having the means to secure it with armed guards, surveillance cameras and canine patrols.

          Much the same with a wifi router. Even if you think you’ve secured it, odds are any teenager with a laptop and the ability to read can crack it in between a minute and an hour. To use the car analogy it would be as if you yourself were expected to rebuild the car lock and make new keys every few days.

    • http://technuts.spruz.com/ FatGiant

      So, let’s be clear here.

      To you, the road builders are liable for the accidents they allowed to happen on it.
      To you, if anyone sees an abandoned gun and kills someone with it, the guilty part, is not who pulls the trigger, but the gun owner.
      To you, if I spoofed your IP or invaded your WiFi, and downloaded something with it, you are the liable one, not me.
      To you, if my kid friend while at our house picked up my spare car keys, and later drove it against another car, I would be liable, and not him.
      To you, if your kid invites a friend over, and gives him the key to your WiFi, if he downloads something you are the one liable.

      Nice crazy world you live in. What color are the pills they give you every 6 hours?

      That’s 3rd party liability, and that is just crazy. Also, it isn’t illegal to have an Open WiFi. In many cases it is a sign of good manners.

      The problem lies exactly there, all they have against this man, is an IP, not any kind of proof that he actually committed any infringement. An IP doesn’t identify anyone. At best it tells you what connection was used, not the user. And being so easy to spoof, they prove NOTHING, not even that it was that connection being used.

      So, please get down from that horse, and please try to understand what is happening before typing.

      And by the way, the first thing to do on such a case, it would have to be to prove, behind any doubt, that there was any damage made.

      • Ven

        “To you, if anyone sees an abandoned gun and kills someone with it, the guilty part, is not who pulls the trigger, but the gun owner.”

        This (like some of the other examples you gave) is not a good example of what’s happening here. If someone is shot and they trace the bullet back to your gun, a few things could happen:

        - They could find evidence that someone stole your gun, in which case they and not you are convicted.
        - They could find no evidence that your secured gun was used by someone else, in which case you will most likely be convicted (Occam’s Razor says you did it in this case).
        - They could find that your gun was unsecured and available to the public, and you would be at the very least fined for not properly storing a firearm. They will likely also confiscate said firearm, and you may or may not be be hit for negligence.

        In the case of copyright infringement, they need to hold someone responsible for an action. I know they want to say that network administrators are not responsible for the traffic they see, but the eventuality is that letting them be irresponsible is not going to be acceptable to the court system.

        Too many cases would end with: “Well, we lost them at the network traffic better luck next time.”

        • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

          Oh it will always stick on court. I’d simply ask them to prove it was me while denying. MAFIAA: “Oh but… but… your open wireless!” Blind man:”It’s legal and I don’t intend to close it.” MAFIAA:”But, but… think of the children!” Judge:”That’s it, you are a freaking pedophile!”

    • http://technuts.spruz.com/ FatGiant

      So, let’s be clear here.

      To you, the road builders are liable for the accidents they allowed to happen on it.
      To you, if anyone sees an abandoned gun and kills someone with it, the guilty part, is not who pulls the trigger, but the gun owner.
      To you, if I spoofed your IP or invaded your WiFi, and downloaded something with it, you are the liable one, not me.
      To you, if my kid friend while at our house picked up my spare car keys, and later drove it against another car, I would be liable, and not him.
      To you, if your kid invites a friend over, and gives him the key to your WiFi, if he downloads something you are the one liable.

      Nice crazy world you live in. What color are the pills they give you every 6 hours?

      That’s 3rd party liability, and that is just crazy. Also, it isn’t illegal to have an Open WiFi. In many cases it is a sign of good manners.

      The problem lies exactly there, all they have against this man, is an IP, not any kind of proof that he actually committed any infringement. An IP doesn’t identify anyone. At best it tells you what connection was used, not the user. And being so easy to spoof, they prove NOTHING, not even that it was that connection being used.

      So, please get down from that horse, and please try to understand what is happening before typing.

      And by the way, the first thing to do on such a case, it would have to be to prove, behind any doubt, that there was any damage made.

    • http://technuts.spruz.com/ FatGiant

      So, let’s be clear here.

      To you, the road builders are liable for the accidents they allowed to happen on it.
      To you, if anyone sees an abandoned gun and kills someone with it, the guilty part, is not who pulls the trigger, but the gun owner.
      To you, if I spoofed your IP or invaded your WiFi, and downloaded something with it, you are the liable one, not me.
      To you, if my kid friend while at our house picked up my spare car keys, and later drove it against another car, I would be liable, and not him.
      To you, if your kid invites a friend over, and gives him the key to your WiFi, if he downloads something you are the one liable.

      Nice crazy world you live in. What color are the pills they give you every 6 hours?

      That’s 3rd party liability, and that is just crazy. Also, it isn’t illegal to have an Open WiFi. In many cases it is a sign of good manners.

      The problem lies exactly there, all they have against this man, is an IP, not any kind of proof that he actually committed any infringement. An IP doesn’t identify anyone. At best it tells you what connection was used, not the user. And being so easy to spoof, they prove NOTHING, not even that it was that connection being used.

      So, please get down from that horse, and please try to understand what is happening before typing.

      And by the way, the first thing to do on such a case, it would have to be to prove, behind any doubt, that there was any damage made.

    • http://twitter.com/unusedcrayon Bear

      Judging by the article, it seems his router was sold with no security so should he be held liable for lack of knowledge of how it works, I think not. Even if it was secure, it has never been hard to crack wifi routers to get free access, there are countless tools available to let anyone do it.

    • R.

      Something people seem to be missing: the RIAA will never actually use the negligence argument in court, only for intimidation. The reason for this is simple: negligence is a common law tort and therefore the statutory restrictions on damages don’t apply. In other words, you wouldn’t be looking at hundreds of thousands of dollars as a starting point, but only a few hundred. At that level, their business model is untenable.

      This is assuming the negligence claim would actually succeed, which it may not given the discussion in that article the other day. (In particular, the policy consideration of requiring everyone to be responsible for their networks. Judges tend to be fairly old and technologically illiterate – this is one of the times where them being self-serving could work rather well for us.)

      So the open Wi-Fi defence is still useful, since even if you are guilty it could substantially reduce your damages.

  • Ven

    Being legally blind in the USA means that you can not see better than 20/200 with corrective lenses. Without my glasses/contacts, I am over 20/1000 and could still squint and move closer and watch video on a computer monitor well enough to enjoy it.

    Legally blind can also me he lacks a wide enough range of vision. In fact, only about 10% of legally blind people actually have no vision.

    I usually don’t like to come right out and say it, but this article is an argument built on a piece of evidence that has a 90% chance of being wrong. Weak reporting.

  • Ven

    Being legally blind in the USA means that you can not see better than 20/200 with corrective lenses. Without my glasses/contacts, I am over 20/1000 and could still squint and move closer and watch video on a computer monitor well enough to enjoy it.

    Legally blind can also me he lacks a wide enough range of vision. In fact, only about 10% of legally blind people actually have no vision.

    I usually don’t like to come right out and say it, but this article is an argument built on a piece of evidence that has a 90% chance of being wrong. Weak reporting.

    • http://fightcopyrighttrolls.com S.J. Doe

      Maybe. 0.9 chance of being wron in this particular case. But in a case with 1000 defendants probability of being wrong is… 0.9^1000 = 1.7e-46. What is the Blackstone formulation about?

      • Ven

        Yes, if all 1000 of those defendants were legally blind.

    • Anonymous

      The accused said it, not Torrentfreak:

      “To be honest, it’s a little ridiculous. My movie-watching ability is nonexistent. My kids watch movies, but they are 4 and 6, so they don’t watch porn either. Well, hopefully they don’t,” the Doe told the Village Voice Media.”

      • Ven

        So is he willing to release medical information to demonstrate his blindness as factual evidence? Claims are claims, the only people who assume them true because they want to believe it are fools.

        • Anonymous

          Perhaps you should get Torrentfreak to dispatch their team of highly trained medical doctors to do a ‘proper’ report instead of this piss-poor ‘reporting the news’ nonsense.

          The point of the article would stand even if he came out and said he lied about the entire thing and had better than average vision and even admitted to downloading the porn himself. The point is that there is a margin of error on the speculative invoicing scams, which makes the entire thing invalid.

          On top of that, you assume that they didn’t do any fact checking. I’m not saying they did, but do you honestly think they will post his medical records online, or write, “by the way, we can corroborate his story because we went to his house and threw salt in his eyes to make sure.”

          Lighten up, mang. An infatuation with finding faults in everything makes Ven a dull boy.

        • http://fightcopyrighttrolls.com S.J. Doe

          Putting aside the fact that I’m a fool, I want to believe that you are a camel. Seriously. Are you willing to release your medical information with tests clearly showing that you have zero humps? You may claim that you are not a camel, but claims are claims. Prove it. We are waiting.

          (And a guy next to me in a bus this morning damaged my business irreparably. Now he has a duty to prove his innocence regardless what people assume about him.)

        • Ven

          @grawss and S.J. Doe

          Here is a snippet from the article TF linked:

          “Doe, then living in Santa Clara, California, had just accepted a job in the network-security division of a Seattle software company. (He is able to work using a pair of computer programs that read his emails aloud and magnify a portion of his computer screen.) ”

          So this blind man works network-security for a living on a computer modified so he can make use of it. There is no way a judge assumes the man is innocent due to a health condition preventing him from using a computer.

          “Putting aside the fact that I’m a fool, I want to believe that you are a camel. ”

          Go ahead. And then, try and write an article about this camel you met on the internet, while simultaneously trying to get the journalism world to take you seriously. Because if you want the world to respect you as someone who believes in clear thinking, clear statement, accuracy and fairness, then burden of proof is yours.

          Camel. Out.

        • http://tinyurl.com/ANoiXioNA-personal-info ANoiXioNA

          Do you want his birth certificate as well ?

          Or is that just …. a reserved requirement for black people ?

          By saying…. (paraphrasing) ……..

          “”Show me proof that this guy is blind.
          Don’t need proof of actually downloading the porn. (irrelevant)
          Prove that he is Blind.

          conclusion : If he cant prove he has NO eye balls…. he downloaded the porn.
          “”

          You look foolish…..

          The man’s blindness is not what this is about….

          He has been threatened …to pay up…..or else ….For allegedly downloading porn..

          It is not possible to prove he did… some would say impossible….
          (considering the methods used to generate the accusation)

        • Ven

          @ANoiXioNA

          His court argument should be about the inability to prove he was the one who downloaded the porn. He may have downloaded it or he may not have, and nobody but him will ever truly know which it is. But that isn’t what I was trying to get across.

          This article (what I was writing about) asserts that his man was falsely accused because he is blind. The man is clearly not blind, and actually works on computers for a living. His vision is not factor in this civil case, and similarly shouldn’t be a played-up part of the article.

        • http://tinyurl.com/ANoiXioNA-personal-info ANoiXioNA

          I agree 100%… the blindness is irrelevant…….. in the case..

          However , I don’t think… the man’s argument…. or this article …..suggests….
          Innocent because he is blind……

          But if he is unable to see the porn…
          That does strongly suggest he didn’t download it….. he has no motive to…..


          legally blind, with vision roughly 1/100th of that of a person with normal sight.
          The mere suggestion that he swaps illicit smut online could jeopardize his career

        • http://tinyurl.com/ANoiXioNA-personal-info ANoiXioNA

          I agree 100%… the blindness is irrelevant…….. in the case..

          However , I don’t think… the man’s argument…. or this article …..suggests….
          Innocent because he is blind……

          But if he is unable to see the porn…
          That does strongly suggest he didn’t download it….. he has no motive to…..


          legally blind, with vision roughly 1/100th of that of a person with normal sight.
          The mere suggestion that he swaps illicit smut online could jeopardize his career

        • http://fightcopyrighttrolls.com S.J. Doe

          It is very difficult not to agree with you, Ven, that blindness is irrelevant in this particular case. It is, Blackstone formulation, presumption of innocence and even camels aside. Suggestion that “he is innocent because he is blind” is also questionable. Nonetheless I think that TF’s decision to publish this article is perfectly justified – it appeals to emotions, hence attracts more readers and more attention to the problem. Trolls prefer to work in darkness, publicity is harmful for them.

        • http://fightcopyrighttrolls.com S.J. Doe

          It is very difficult not to agree with you, Ven, that blindness is irrelevant in this particular case. It is, Blackstone formulation, presumption of innocence and even camels aside. Suggestion that “he is innocent because he is blind” is also questionable. Nonetheless I think that TF’s decision to publish this article is perfectly justified – it appeals to emotions, hence attracts more readers and more attention to the problem. Trolls prefer to work in darkness, publicity is harmful for them.

      • Ven

        So is he willing to release medical information to demonstrate his blindness as factual evidence? Claims are claims, the only people who assume them true because they want to believe it are fools.

    • Wrath of the Tyrant

      lol @ squinting at porn. Are you serious??

      • Ven

        Depends on your eyesight. With my “blindness” I would have to lean in very close to a monitor to actually read something or watch a video.

        • PJ London

          My Mother said I would go blind if I carried on doing “that”.

          Blindness may not be an excuse, but an outcome.

      • Ven

        Depends on your eyesight. With my “blindness” I would have to lean in very close to a monitor to actually read something or watch a video.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PFCI5VRUCYT6AVBT3P6ILV3COI Ophelia Millais

      Before I saw your post, I was going to ask how the guy read the letter from Comcast.

  • TAZZ

    Humm that is as bad as Davenport Lyons http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAnUBkqEG4E

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  • Balls

    Maybe his wife downloaded it. Chicks dig creampies too, ya know…

  • You mom

    I love to see more stories like this because it shows how fucked up it is.

  • http://www.facebook.com/chronoss.uha1 Chronoss Uha

    get 1000 friends to give the guy 3$ for a lawyer for a few days then he can fight and win then counter sue for damages

  • http://www.facebook.com/chronoss.uha1 Chronoss Uha

    after all slander and defamation of character do pay in the end….

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  • Mr.Afghanistan

    US/UK Law is bullsh!T at it’s best !

  • Anonymous

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    • http://tinyurl.com/ANoiXioNA-personal-info ANoiXioNA

      more counterfeit shop spam….
      A different shop every time……

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  • Brianca

    This is as hilarious as it is tragic. The dude didn’t even get slapped with a relatively normal porn title (you know ‘Debbie Does Dallas’ or something), No! he’s charged with downloading some filthy cougar creampies smut.

    I mean really, if your the studio that made that film how on earth do you gather up the dignity to sue someone, therefor associating yourself with said material? If I took an impromptu dump in the park, I wouldn’t stand their proudly and announce to everyone that its mine and threaten to sue when some crazy homeless guy tries to steal it.
    These people have no shame!

    • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

      I lol’d at your comment. But there’s taste for everything in this world ;)

  • Anon

    Blind people download porn for the audio, surely you should know that TF.

  • Guest

    Couldn’t care less, don’t get me wrong this is a sad case but who cares really??? I’m in the Uk and until they outlaw open wifi or categorically state that I’m responsible for use of my IP then …whoever… can do 1 …I will see you in court, bless legal aid xxxx p.s even if wifi is protected the use of certain linux based apps can find a way through….innocent until proven guilty and all that?!?!? where will it end IP=anyone some hoody plotted up on my drive with a laptop….possibly during some riot…..errrrrrrrrrrr compo for the inconvenience …. OFCOM complaint etc etc ….it’s Long but don’t watch me I’m up for it

    • Guest

      i tell you what i’ll hack the judges wifi and download some next shit, ….oh i’m guilty am i….what bout you???? whats that… oh, you didnt do it on your protected wifi……hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i thought ip=offender, you see it just don’t work…at least not here……america just crazy…. poor fella blind n broke now

  • Guest

    Couldn’t care less, don’t get me wrong this is a sad case but who cares really??? I’m in the Uk and until they outlaw open wifi or categorically state that I’m responsible for use of my IP then …whoever… can do 1 …I will see you in court, bless legal aid xxxx p.s even if wifi is protected the use of certain linux based apps can find a way through….innocent until proven guilty and all that?!?!? where will it end IP=anyone some hoody plotted up on my drive with a laptop….possibly during some riot…..errrrrrrrrrrr compo for the inconvenience …. OFCOM complaint etc etc ….it’s Long but don’t watch me I’m up for it

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  • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

    “Although it’s not impossible for blind people to be interested in porn – after all there are plenty of auditory stimuli and interesting dialogues..”

    JESUS TF, that was the most epic sarcastic line I’ve read in a while! *thumbs up* No?

    • http://tinyurl.com/ANoiXioNA-personal-info ANoiXioNA

      the “”interesting dialogues“” comment is legend…

  • Anon

    I’ve got a friend who received a letter from a copyright troll about 8 months ago. The troll’s deadlines keep changing and a subpoena has never shown up. My friend’s solution: the second the troll called my friend said prove it. Prove it right the f–k now, let’s go to court. All the troll said was , I think you are bluffing about going to court. Haven’t heard from him since then

    • http://tinyurl.com/ANoiXioNA-personal-info ANoiXioNA

      keep us posted… Sounds familiar..

      • Anon

        Does sound familiar. I think you were the one trolling my friend.

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  • guest

    Excuse this simple question but, if I download a file, how do I know it’s copyrighted unless I download and view the file first?

    • Anon

      It’s called common sense.

      • Amsex

        not when you download amateur porn. you can’t tell whether or not a movie titled girl in shower is copyrighted. Then you have the reality sites that design their content to replicate free amateur porn. Some of the copyright trolls are actually suing over movies called “girlfriend lost a bet”. The porn community is unique in that the amateurs will throw it all over the place….for free

  • Anonymous

    Dont you just love those bottom feeding, blood sucking attorneys lol
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  • random hero

    It’s obvious. His wife downloaded it. Don’t say women don’t watch porn.

  • random hero

    It’s obvious. His wife downloaded it. Don’t say women don’t watch porn.

    • Anon

      Women don’t watch porn.

    • gae

      So then he did not download illegaly and should not be punished in any way…

  • gae

    Too bad he is going to pay up, if he fought this I would expect him to stand a better chance of winning than most others would do and that would sure bring more publicity to the whole issue of wrongful accusations.

  • gae

    Too bad he is going to pay up, if he fought this I would expect him to stand a better chance of winning than most others would do and that would sure bring more publicity to the whole issue of wrongful accusations.

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  • Randy_Lahey

    Maybe the porn made him go blind..Just saying.

  • Deathly

    Not fair! Anonymous should take care of these so-called ‘copyright holders’!!

  • Jigsy

    So… masturbation does cause blindness?

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  • 4thepeoplesrights

    My “client” is actually 9 months in the clear. There have been 2 e-mails and 3 phone calls in total. First couple calls were very very short, 3rd was prove it. 3rd call he said my “client” was bluffing. I told Mr. Steele I am pursuing a degree in computer forensics and I am willing to publicly debate him anywhere, anytime. I told him his software was pathetic and his dates are laughably inaccurate. No reply, ever. The guy is essentially a hack job copyright troll who could never deal with a jury. In a better world, he would have been stripped of his license to practice law due to his childish and his non-existent ethics. Not a lawyer, btw, just professional mind fu—ker who has had a few chats with Mr. Steele. Should Mr. Steele attempt to pursue this individual, good luck. The thorough documentation on the case will get him ass raped by a jury. Put differently, I guess you could say Steele is a sheep in wolf’s clothing. Don’t just ignore him. Get pissed and call and e-mail him. Don’t be scared. He has nothing that will hold up in court. This whole scheme is nothing but a childish money making scheme by some greedy punk lawyer(Paul and Peter Hansmeier work with John Steele, all 3 went to the same college).Btw, same person but 3 completely different IP addresses being used by this one computer. How is your tracking software working now Mr. Steele?

    • Anonymous

      Personally, I think until a subpoena is served no one should waste their time with these trolls. The subpoenas never seem to come, they just keep dragging the process on, which while not technically illegal, is enough to get them disbarred. Grow some balls people and start filing complaints

  • http://www.empneusmeno.com Nick Malekos

    Thats exactly what it means blind justice. Couldn’t they give some time to check or talk with the people they are accusing? The system in America is so bad that in order to not pay a few thousand dollars you have to pay them to a lawyer. Thats another thing that need to be changed …
    In other countries, the man could at least have a public lawyer (might not be as good) but he could have a lawyer for free given to him by the government to at least have a representative in the case …

  • http://www.empneusmeno.com Nick Malekos

    Thats exactly what it means blind justice. Couldn’t they give some time to check or talk with the people they are accusing? The system in America is so bad that in order to not pay a few thousand dollars you have to pay them to a lawyer. Thats another thing that need to be changed …
    In other countries, the man could at least have a public lawyer (might not be as good) but he could have a lawyer for free given to him by the government to at least have a representative in the case …

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  • Qman

    Their argument is that if your name is on the bill of the ip address, then you are guilty. In the same sense as, if a murderer lives in your house and you are the owner of the property, therefore, you undoubtedly and without question is the murderer. The Judges should know this simple argument and tell this idiots to retake their bar exams.

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    Maybe i’m being stupid but surely the ISP’s have a log of the MAC address not just the IP which would be produced in court?

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  • Johndoe2033

    Well these blind folks should pay up or they could get hosed. There have been over a thousand people sued in their own states from a network of attorneys representing the copyright holders in all these cases. I ignored the letter I got and got sued for Hurt Locker in my local court, and ended up settling for $9,250. I would post more but my settlement agreement was confidential. The same lawyer sued 2 other families for porn movies in my county. This is all fun and games until you get sued and your attorney asks for a $20,000 retainer

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