BitTorrent: King of Copyright Infringements

Written by enigmax on May 12, 2009 

While anti-piracy company MediaDefender only got involved in hindering downloaders, BayTSP is the outfit that tracks file-sharers and sends infringement notices to ISPs. Using cumulative data from its entertainment industry clients, the company reveals which nation’s sharers get caught infringing the most.

Anti-piracy company BayTSP works with the entertainment industry to track down illicit file-sharers, monitor them and gather evidence in order to issue infringement notices to their ISP, i.e stop downloading – or else. In addition, the company gathers intelligence for clients who want to see where their content is appearing, to understand the scope of it all.

BayTSP has used the data it collected on behalf of its clients to produce its just released Online Trends & Insights 2008 report and there are some quite interesting findings. The report notes that BitTorrent has further strengthened its dominant position as the protocol used to infringe the most copyrights, with eDonkey (eD2k) in second place. It has to be noted that BitTorrent may be more actively and easily monitored than Usenet and other file-sharing platforms, and that this resulted in more recorded infringements.

“BitTorrent and eDonkey are optimized for large file distribution and despite the growing popularity of streaming video, are still where the majority of copyright infringement takes place,” said BayTSP CEO Mark Ishikawa in a comment on the report.

Recorded infringements per source

p2p protocol

In terms of P2P infringement location, BayTSP also claims that despite topping the list of most-infringing countries in 2007, the United States has seen the number of infringements fall ever since, pushing it down into 4th position.

Recorded infringements per country

p2p country

Copyright infringement on file-sharing networks has surged in Europe, helping France move up to 3rd place in the piracy league. A single ISP, France Telecom, clocked up more than 2 million logged infringements. Second place went to Italy and one of its ISPs, Telecom Italia, also reached over 2 million infringements.

The title of most-infringing country goes to Spain, with ISP Telefonica De Espana playing host to more than 2 million infringements. The report also reveals that BayTSP sent more than a million infringement notices each to Comcast, AT&T and Road Runner in 2008. Comcast had the most copyright infringements of all ISPs in the US, 1,668,738 in total during 2008.

Finally, the report discovered another interesting trend. The median download time for a TV-show is much shorter on BitTorrent than on eDonkey. With BitTorrent it takes roughly 10 hours while eDonkey users may have to wait a full 4 days before their download is complete.

Previously: France Passes “Three Strikes” Anti-Piracy Law

Next: MIT Harbors The Most P2P Pirates

138 Responses

1 May 12, 2009 at 22:48 by anon

I don’t know anyone who uses eDonkey or other stuff, everyone is using just bittorrent and some people usenet.

FIRST!!

2 May 12, 2009 at 22:53 by Anonymous

@1:

Well, you are reading this on Torrentfreak. You’d have to go to Donkeyfreak to find people who use eDonkey, and I’m afraid to type in that URL.

3 May 12, 2009 at 22:54 by Simon

Yeah, I only ever use uTorrent, or BitTorrent, mainly because a lot of private trackers don’t allow many others.

Those ones are the “safe” ones.

4 May 12, 2009 at 22:55 by Mr. Briggs

Canada now has more than 3.5 times as many recorded infringements per capita as the US.

Go Canada!!!

I mean, *ahem*.

5 May 12, 2009 at 22:58 by AdB

hmm, i wish they could have the top ten countries downloading stats with relation to the countrys population.. thatd be an interesting one i reckon

6 May 12, 2009 at 22:59 by Toneh

@ 2

LOL!

I laughed my ass off at the ‘donkeyfreak’ thingie…

7 May 12, 2009 at 23:01 by MM

@2 Man, I almost died laughing. Donkeyfreak… lol

8 May 12, 2009 at 23:02 by Mister X

… and on Usenet I download a TV show in about a minute.

9 May 12, 2009 at 23:04 by Mr. Briggs

Hold on, why is there no link to the BayTSP report?

10 May 12, 2009 at 23:08 by Ernesto

@2

We got that covered ;)

http://donkeyfreak.com

11 May 12, 2009 at 23:09 by Anonymous

donkey freak lmfao!

12 May 12, 2009 at 23:11 by Jon

actually, donkeyfreak.com is available.

13 May 12, 2009 at 23:11 by Crandom

“more than a million copyright infringement notices”

FFFFFFFFFFUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCC…..

How mnay have there been in the UK? <1000?

14 May 12, 2009 at 23:12 by Anonymous

I would use Usenet if it was free. It’s not, thus it defeats the purpose entirely (for me anyways).

15 May 12, 2009 at 23:14 by SableSlayer

Well its the better protocol so of course people are switching!

16 May 12, 2009 at 23:16 by Rodger

Surprised Canada made it on the list.

lol @ #2

http://torrentino.info

17 May 12, 2009 at 23:17 by Helter

I like how everything dropped in the ratings… So what has gone UP in the ratings other than direct connect?
Bullshit! Made up statistics! Fucking die!

18 May 12, 2009 at 23:19 by ByCapita

1 Spain 24,749,379 46,157,822 0.54/capita
2 Israel 3,655,253 7,411,000 0.49/capita
3 Italy 19,233,279 60,017,677 0.32/capita
4 France 17,844,699 65,073,482 0.27/capita
5 UK 6,586,698 61,612,300 0.11/capita
6 Poland 4,152,861 38,130,302 0.11/capita
7 Canada 3,342,072 33,646,000 0.10/capita
8 Germany 5,731,959 82,060,000 0.06/capita
9 USA 8,116,302 306,400,000 0.03/capita
10 Brazil 5,973,286 198,739,269 0.03/capita

19 May 12, 2009 at 23:27 by Karl Rosenqvist

Nice stats ByCapita .. how’s Sweden doing, anyone know?

20 May 12, 2009 at 23:30 by Anonymous

America has a fairly crippled services structure compared to Canada and Europe probably is keeping its numbers artificially low.

21 May 12, 2009 at 23:34 by Fred

Gdamnit those ppl must have crappy lines, even here in Thailand I get a 1:1 ratio when downloading tv-eps. That would be 20 min for a 180meg like Simpsones EP, and 45 min for a 350meg like House =). Would be nice if they would rank the countries according to download speed, I bet northern Europe would kick US,UK,Italy,Spain’s,Frances asses.

22 May 12, 2009 at 23:42 by Anonymous

doesnt take me more then 1 h to download a ep that has normal seed on it

23 May 12, 2009 at 23:47 by Toddy

ouch 4 days contra 10h :D

24 May 12, 2009 at 23:48 by RoestVrijStaal

Hey, I think that numbers are not the numbers of downloaders / infringements. They’re just the numbers of people who got a wrong ISP. :)

If your ISP is counting downloaders / other such stuff, you could better switch to an other ISP.

I’m BTW REALLY suprized that the ED2K-network stands so high on the list. ah C’mon, ED2K-network is always have been sloO0Oowly and crappy.
I prefer BitTorrent, Gnutella1\2 and Ares above ED2K…

@Ernesto: it’s seems that http://www.donkeyfreak.com/ is offline :P

25 May 12, 2009 at 23:49 by MeH

a TV episode in 10hrs? more like 10mins tops :) seeding it back, yh that might take a couple of hrs but no where near ten! :O Good Ol’ Statistics, dont show what everyone is on, just the people on the longest times =/

MeH
Mayhem excites Hell

26 May 12, 2009 at 23:54 by Anonymous

It’s good Usenet is so far down on the list, cause no one will be paying attention to Usenet for a long time ^^ and during that time I can download like a maniac without having to worry^^

27 May 12, 2009 at 23:56 by oliver stoned

10 hours?? try about 20 minutes for a show and 30 for a movie

28 May 13, 2009 at 00:05 by Joe

@25 – I agree. With usenet I get a maxed out 1.5MB connection, download a 350MB tv show in about 10 minutes. Coupled with SSL I feel very good.

Haven’t heard of a usenet downloader getting burned yet!

29 May 13, 2009 at 00:06 by freaker

got mah 20mbit last year, 700mb scene rls movies in 5 minutes.
onto terabyte number three soon.
those stats are taken from public trackers obviously (the 10 hour wait for a show)
private tracker traffic i say accounts for like 8% of the infringing ip’s.

30 May 13, 2009 at 00:14 by Seiji

Does anyone have the link to the report? I can’t seem to find it on baytsp’s website

31 May 13, 2009 at 00:17 by Anonymous

Why would anyone pay to pirate?

32 May 13, 2009 at 00:28 by Hom3r

I agree with 26. 10 hours maybe for a full 4GB DVD, but for a 300MB-500MB TV show? not even 15 minutes.

33 May 13, 2009 at 00:28 by Anonymous

lol good to see that irc is not on there which is the best way to dl

34 May 13, 2009 at 00:31 by UltraleetJ

anyway… it tells you something about the most restrictive ISPS… and countries right?I would imagine France would b first this year.

35 May 13, 2009 at 00:57 by Vulcon

Isn’t it legal in Spain when used for personal use? How is it an infringement when it breaks no law?

Also, it seems to me, that the ability to view TV via the internet LEGALLY in the US (only) may be a factor in their being number 4. Perhaps if that was extended to the rest of the world…

36 May 13, 2009 at 01:12 by erwis

@1 try google Donkeyfreak torrentfreak first result.

37 May 13, 2009 at 01:18 by Soundwave

I have HD TV service and Tivo, but I need to watch shows when I have time, instead of when they are broadcast.

I really like to see them take me to court for downloading The Simpsons or something, when it’s aired on a standard station. I can Tivo it, so … what’s the difference?

How can we get rid of all these spy companies, and how is Media Defender standing with no legs? Standing on a pile of money from the MAFIAA.

38 May 13, 2009 at 01:21 by Soundwave

BOYCOTT 4 LYFE

39 May 13, 2009 at 02:37 by MMx

Lol i love how Canada went down and yet the usa spouts off about them being a piracy hotbed…

40 May 13, 2009 at 04:16 by g2

i kind of with edonkey still since it what user does

or you can just as well sue general motors for providing means to brake law….. shuldnt last in court -.-

41 May 13, 2009 at 04:24 by Anonymous

Time to remove copyright law outright. Why the hell is SHEET MUSIC for a 1926 piece copyrighted is beyond me.

42 May 13, 2009 at 04:50 by Black Pirate

I download torrents with ARES and i have dial up it so fuc*king good with dial up i tell ya if you have dial up u better download ARES

THE OTHERS DONT WORK FOR DIAL UP PERIOD

43 May 13, 2009 at 05:29 by free pirate

ed2k is just irritating.
u hav 2 wait 4r the right person 2 hav free slots (probablity).

44 May 13, 2009 at 05:42 by The Coyote

10 hours for an episode? Where? It must be based on 1080p episodes downloaded in third world countries? Right

45 May 13, 2009 at 05:42 by Joshua Street

In the US file sharing honestly is not a huge issue, but speaking from band friends in Spain/France it is a real problem. Not so much that people do it, but a band can amass 10,000 downloads and sell fewer than 700 CD’s. Country’s like Spain lack a strong venue structure, it literally is killing their music. I not a big against file sharing person, but their has to be a little restraint. Otherwise we are going to end up with a lot of Nickelback cover bands.

46 May 13, 2009 at 05:47 by skakidd

irc ftw.

try pronouncing that.

47 May 13, 2009 at 05:57 by God 2.0

Joshua Street, no, you are DOING IT WRONG.

Calle de Joshua, no, usted LA ESTÁ HACIENDO INCORRECTA.

Rua de Joshua, não, você ESTÁ FAZENDO-A ERRADA.

It is not killing Spanish/French Music.

We live in a global economy. US sales pretty much smooth out the any losses in the Music world.

48 May 13, 2009 at 06:52 by Anonymous

I have 12,000 cases in music alone :o

49 May 13, 2009 at 07:22 by Arb

I got a good question for those numbers. Are they the numbers of people use bittorrent? or just numbers of people downloading verified copywrited stuff?

cause if its the first one well then the numbers are bull

50 May 13, 2009 at 07:33 by Salty Sea Dog

This is bullshit, USA demands a recount.

More seriously though, why is USA so low on the scale? We have a giant populace, many of whom use computers for sharing. Is it perhaps peerguardian use due to lawsuit paranoia? Hamachi usage? Those figures simply cannot be correct.

Also, who the hell uses edonkey since like 4-5 years ago? Edonkey is vastly inferior to BT. Those figures also seem suspect to me.

I don’t believe the numbers, but congrats to Spain, Italy and France on your podium finishes. Keep up the good work. If anyone has any theories to explain this result, please share. I am all ears.

51 May 13, 2009 at 07:39 by Reventon

Ed2k is way way way more popular than most people believe.

52 May 13, 2009 at 08:00 by NoOne

If you have correctly forwarded your ports on eDonkey and if you have a good server list (avoid the fakes put onlinre by the majors, see http://peerates.net/ ), and if you’re also connected to Kad, eDonkey is fast. And it has a much better retention and diversity than BitTorrent.

Also note that what shitTSP considers as copyright infringement is not considered so in Spain according to court rulings. Americans should understand that their jurisdiction is limited to their territory only.

53 May 13, 2009 at 08:11 by Rincewind42

Strange, China isn’t on the list of countries. I’ve lived in China for 3 years and people here are confused as to why Americans pay for music. Nobody pays for it here. They just go to baidu (the Chinese google clone) and download it directly. Clearly this BayTSP mob don’t count China in their stats.

54 May 13, 2009 at 08:41 by Glenn

I am glad that Australia is not on the list.

I suppose that BT addicts could use VPNs or Tor or Anonymizer to avoid detection by BayTSP.

55 May 13, 2009 at 08:47 by tg1604

“TV-show is much shorter on BitTorrent than on eDonkey. With BitTorrent it takes roughly 10 hours” !!

What are they using – a piece of string with a tin can at each end?

56 May 13, 2009 at 08:53 by HisNez

Bittorrent is KING!

I’ve tried the rest, but they’re not the best.

57 May 13, 2009 at 09:09 by Anonymous

bittorrent rocks…4-5 min for a movie :)

58 May 13, 2009 at 09:10 by me

bittorrent rocks…4-5 min for a movie :)

59 May 13, 2009 at 09:22 by st0fzuiger

eh 10hours for 1 tv-show. i do that in 30 minutes? :S

60 May 13, 2009 at 09:31 by eeeeeee

What about a per-citizen number?

61 May 13, 2009 at 10:35 by Rob

Hmm, I think I infringed more than Brazil last night.

62 May 13, 2009 at 12:03 by Anonymous

10 Hours/4Days to DL a TV show? Man some folks need to speed up there internet :P Less than an hour to DL a HD Episode on 20Mb :D

63 May 13, 2009 at 13:05 by Ghostofchris

lol australia didnt make it to the list…

64 May 13, 2009 at 14:30 by _Bass

10 hours for a TV episode??!! It takes me like 10 minutes or less to get the latest Lost episode every week. I live in Spain.

65 May 13, 2009 at 14:54 by Anonymous

I think 10 hours is from the airing of episode on TV to when the number of users having/sharing it reached it peak.

I sometimes wonder if some 10 yo is writing all the articles? With a rant about journalistic values, they have horrible grammar and sometimes the sentences don’t make any sense.

66 May 13, 2009 at 15:03 by Ethernet

Wow, Australia isn’t on the list even though I torrent in my sleep.

Either ARIA haven’t got a stranglehold or Ned Kelly is still alive and filesharing…

67 May 13, 2009 at 15:09 by Emmanuel Goldstein

You can’t really expect this report to be fair and accurate. I mean look at the source of it Anti-piracy company BayTSP. I would have a hard time believing any research published by a biased researcher.

68 May 13, 2009 at 15:23 by cy

Wow, from what i read from the news, i always believed that the countries most involved in piracy would be China, Malaysia and Thailand…. apparently i was very very wrong : )

69 May 13, 2009 at 15:33 by me

10 hours for a TV show? that can’t be true….. can it?

The longest I have ever seen is about 2 hours but usually 15-60 mins

70 May 13, 2009 at 16:10 by Am I the only one?

I am glad to see Japan not on the list. As an American living in Japan, it’s nice to see that we are still under the radar. No problems here to report. Japanese internet is very fast here.

71 May 13, 2009 at 16:15 by Flamso

Seriously, 10 hours? It takes a maximum of 10 minutes for me and if it’s really fast, 1 minute. Don’t use public trackers if you want speed. -.-’

72 May 13, 2009 at 16:58 by Anthony

Usenet FTW

73 May 13, 2009 at 17:14 by Anonymous

“..download time for a TV-show is much shorter on BitTorrent than on eDonkey. With BitTorrent it takes roughly 1 min. while eDonkey users may have to wait a full 4 days before their download is complete.”

Thats more fun than comment #2.

74 May 13, 2009 at 17:34 by No a la SGAE

Y bien orgullosos de ello.

75 May 13, 2009 at 17:34 by No a la SGAE

Y porque no hay más redes de banda ancha instaladas…

76 May 13, 2009 at 17:35 by No a la SGAE

erronea: a ver que pasa con china , mejico , argentina….

77 May 13, 2009 at 17:36 by No a la SGAE

Y encima todo es legal, no como en otros sitios :-D

78 May 13, 2009 at 17:36 by No a la SGAE

¿Un estudio realizado por una empresa que se dedica a denunciar a quienes descargan contenidos protegidos?… ¡venga ya!, eso es menos de fiar que la Sinde de Ministra de Cultura. :-P

79 May 13, 2009 at 17:37 by No a la SGAE

El estudio realizado por BayTSP no merece ninguna confianza y vulnera la privacidad de los usuarios. Intentar alarmar a la sociedad, intimidar las comunicaciones, presionar a los internautas; utilizan sicarios y métodos mafiosos. Debería ser demandable, pero ahí estan con sus estúpidas estadísticas.

80 May 13, 2009 at 17:38 by No a la SGAE

También tendrá algo que ver el hecho de que compartir sin ánimo de lucro es legal en España, no como en otros países de la comparativa. Si fuera ilegal (no digamos si me puede acarrear consecuencias negativas), me lo pensaría dos veces antes de bajarme películas o música, obviamente.
Si no contemplan esa variable, la interpretación de la estadística es errónea.

81 May 13, 2009 at 17:39 by Stuart Hannig

Everyone from spain should be sentenced to prison sentence. stupid spnish thiefs.

82 May 13, 2009 at 17:39 by Fuera SGAE

Los únicos que dicen que es ilegal o legal son la SGAE, porque no creo que el presidente tenga idea, el a lo que le dicen.

Lo que esta claro que es ilegal es descargar pornografía infantil ilegal, lo que no me queda claro es de que tengamos que pagar todos, en vez de cerrar esas paginas. Pero esto supongo que Zapatero ni los parlamentario tienen idea.

Tenemos que pagar,canon por cualquier producto informático: adsl, ordenador, grabadora, cámara de foto, cd, dvd. Y ahora también por Televisión.

Creo que es claramente un abuso nos están cobrando impuestos por que en España hay pedofilos, pederastas, ladrones.

Para eso ya pagamos a hacienda, para que haya protección ciudadana. Hay policías que se dedican a navegar y mirar esas cosas, que para eso les pagamos.

meneame.net/story/asociacion-espanola-hosteleros-victimas-canon-otro-eo

83 May 13, 2009 at 17:40 by Fuera SGAE

http://meneame.net/story/espana-encabeza-lista-mundial-descargas-material-derechos-autor

84 May 13, 2009 at 17:41 by Fuera SGAE

Pues según un estudio que he hecho yo en mi casa, y ayudándome de software de distribución libre he llegado a las siguientes conclusiones:

Tenemos unas tarifas telefónicas que ni los alemanes.
Tenemos unas tarifas de internet que ni los alemanes.
Tenemos una velocidad de descarga que ni los etíopes.
Tenemoms una velocidad de subida que ni…que ni….bueno…algún país tendrá menos…digo yo.
Tenemos unas carreteras putapénicas.
Tenemos unos precios de vivienda que ni el Sultán de Brunei.
Ahora nos quieren hacer pagar la tv pública sin publicidad…y sabeís que?
Que nadie va a venir a salvarnos ni ninguna asociación ni polladas en vinagre va a corroborar mis datos con ningún estudio pijotero para que alguien haga algo y dejen de robarnos y de darnos por el culo tooodos los días de nuestra perra vida.

Joder que a gusto me he quedado…

85 May 13, 2009 at 17:41 by Fuera SGAE

We are the champions – my friend
And we’ll keep on fighting till the end
We are the champions
We are the champions
No time for losers
‘Cause we are the champions of the world

by queen

86 May 13, 2009 at 17:42 by Fuera SGAE

Porque como personas de sangre caliente que somos, nos gusta compartir!!!

87 May 13, 2009 at 17:42 by Fuera SGAE

Una gran noticia, los españoles se culturizan muchísimo a pesar de los sueldos de mierda que tienen gracias a la libre circulación de la cultura.

88 May 13, 2009 at 17:43 by Fuera SGAE

Tienes toda la razón. La sociedad nos “roba” por un lado, si no queremos ser unos paletos tenemos que “robarle” por otro.

89 May 13, 2009 at 17:44 by Fuera SGAE

Tengo una serie de preguntas y son:
Si la tecnología es tan mala porque no ilegalizan los ordenadores y a tomar por saco. O también pueden ilegalizar internet. Y como la Ministra de cultura que piensa que internet solo es para descargar lo quiere poner en todas las escuelas. Y además regalar un portatil a los niños.También podrían ilegalizar las grabadores de CD/DVD y los discos duros internos.
Ufff creo que este aparato demoniaco con el que estoy escribiendo se esta apoderando de mi cada vez me asaltan más dudas. Por favor desconectarlo ahora mismo.

90 May 13, 2009 at 17:44 by Fuera SGAE

En España, las descargas de software privativo son una infracción civil, sin embargo las descargas de películas, música o libros son totalmente legales.

91 May 13, 2009 at 17:45 by Fuera SGAE

Es que yo el tema que le veo a las descargas, es que si no tocasen tanto los huevos las SGAEs y demás, y los discos y DVDs no fueran tan caros, mucha gente descargaría y compraría originales.

Para mi compartir ficheros en eMule es mucho más que ahorrarme un dinero en discos, es compartir lo que me gusta con el mundo. Es más, como dije, si los discos fueran más baratos y la SGAE no tocara las narices, ni siquiera ahorraría en díscos, tal vez incluso me gastara más dinero que sin el Emule.

92 May 13, 2009 at 17:45 by graphicartist2k5

@black pirate: what the hell are you STILL using dial-up for? talk about being in the stone age! seriously, though, to anyone on here that uses bittorrent/edonkey/whatever else, i suggest updating your windows hosts file with a LONG list of banned ip addresses, and also, don’t keep your torrent program open for days on end after the file you’re downloading is done.

93 May 13, 2009 at 17:45 by Fuera SGAE

Será que con LA PASTA que pagamos por la conexión a internet, por el canon de los discos duros, por el canon de las impresoras, etc… (todo ello cosas que mucha gente compra para un uso que nada tiene que ver con material con derechos de autor), nos vemos con el DERECHO (e incluso la obligación) de intentar recuperar parte del dinero gastado a base de descargar material de internet.

¿O es que cuando vais al cine y os cobran una pasta pero a cambio os dan un vale para palomitas y coca-cola no lo usais?

94 May 13, 2009 at 17:46 by Fuera SGAE

Ay,que me LOL.

-Primera temporada de Lost en cofrecito metálico, con sus extras.En Amazon pagas 39.99$= 29 euros.

-Primera temporada de Lost en cofrecito a primera vista de cartón. Parece ser el mismo pack, aunque no estoy segura porque en el americano mencionaban algo de episodios en HD y aquí no. en fín, teóricamente los mismos contenidos. En la Fnac pagas 34€= 34€.

Y así con todo. Que no tengan la poca vergüenza de llamarnos ladrones a NOSOTROS.

(no,no me creo que traducir y doblar cueste cinco euros de diferencia por ejemplar vendido, que sé lo que se cobra en esos trabajos. Mucho listo es lo que hay).

95 May 13, 2009 at 17:47 by Fuera SGAE

Yo soy diseñador grafico, y cuando quiero que no utilicen mi material tengo que llevarlo al Registro y hacer un monton de papeleo, porque los cantantes no tienen que hacer lo mismo??? esque su musica no es comparable a mis diseños???
Yo tambien quiero cobrar de la SGAE!! O follamos todos o la puta al rio

96 May 13, 2009 at 17:47 by matt

how is sweden not on the list, what with all the pirate bay cases etc?

not that we didn’t know this whole study is a damn sham.

97 May 13, 2009 at 17:48 by NO SGAE

Espera a que mañana salga la noticia en los medios generalistas. Nos vamos a partir el ojete…

98 May 13, 2009 at 17:48 by NO SGAE

España encabeza la lista mundial de las descargas de material con derechos de autor… porque los españoles conoces sus derechos :P

99 May 13, 2009 at 17:49 by NO SGAE

Igual es que como aquí todavía es legal, no tenemos porqué escondernos

100 May 13, 2009 at 17:50 by NO SGAE

pagando 40€ por la conexion ADSL me bajo hasta el barrios sesamo si hace falta.
las gallinas que entran por las que van saliendo…

101 May 13, 2009 at 17:50 by NO SGAE

¿Qué sentido tiene volver a pagar por un producto que ha sido subvencionado con nuestros impuestos?

102 May 13, 2009 at 17:51 by NO SGAE

yes we can.

103 May 13, 2009 at 17:51 by NO SGAE

También somos los campeones de la Eurocopa y a la sgae eso no le parece mal…(comentario cínico, claro)

104 May 13, 2009 at 17:52 by NO SGAE

Acabas de poner de manifiesto otro de los problemas que tiene la Industria, de la mal llamada, “Cultura”.
En un mundo globalizado en donde una copia digital de un original vale nada… En donde se puede comprar via Internet o al menos comparar precios. Nuestra Industria Cultural, tiene unos sistemas y costes desorbitados en comparación con los de otros paises, y también por hay es por donde está sufriendo, que no nos engañen.

105 May 13, 2009 at 17:53 by NO SGAE

La primera lista en la que no somos últimos en la cola por delante de Grecia y Portugal :-D

106 May 13, 2009 at 17:54 by SGAE uuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Biennnnnnnnnn biennnnnnnnnnnnn quiero aprovechar para saludar a mi madre que me estará viendo y bueno, mamá, esta descarga es por tí!

Spain ranking 2007: 2
Spain ranking 2008: 1
Spain counts: 24,749,379

Italy ranking 2007: 4
Italy ranking 2008: 2
Italy counts: 19,233,279

¡Ja! ¡Casi 5 millones por encima del segundo clasificado! ¡Oleole!

Aunque lo mejor es en enlace tb de abajo q se da a la vez:
alt1040.com/2007/10/espana-es-lider-mundial-en-adopcion-de-licencias-cs

107 May 13, 2009 at 17:55 by SGAE uuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Y a mucha honra, es lo que tiene COMPARTIR.

108 May 13, 2009 at 17:56 by SGAE uuuuuuuuuuuuuu

¡¡Que ilegalicen Internet!!, a no….que no se trata de matar a la gallina de los huevos de oro, se trata de quedarse ellos con esos huevos de oro de la gallina.
No pararan hasta que controlen Internet, y en ese mismo instante se darán cuenta que en “su” Internet ya no hay tanta gente, y que ya no es rentable, la gallina ya no da huevos de oro.

109 May 13, 2009 at 17:56 by SGAE uuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Reportaje de Stefano (Berto) sobre la Sgae en Buenafuente: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD6p-XGDVMM

Empieza a hablar de ello en el 1:20

110 May 13, 2009 at 17:57 by SGAE uuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Todas las descargas de música son legales. Si acaso se puede decir “descargas de pago”. A ver si se enteran los medios.

111 May 13, 2009 at 17:59 by SGAE "recaudadores"

Magnífico reportaje. Da una visión acertada de la problemática de la SGA€. Must see!!

112 May 13, 2009 at 17:59 by SGAE "recaudadores"

We are the champions!!

113 May 13, 2009 at 18:00 by SGAE "recaudadores"

En el G20 de las descargas las normas las ponemos nosotros ;)

114 May 13, 2009 at 18:01 by JTK

It’s legal in Spain so no surprise there.

115 May 13, 2009 at 18:03 by SGAE abajoooo

España a la cabeza haciendo la cultura más accesible.

116 May 13, 2009 at 18:03 by SGAE abajoooo

Ja! Medalla de oro en descargas segundo año consecutivo. Chupáos esa perdedores, y también pensamos arrasar en Eurovisión.

117 May 13, 2009 at 18:06 by SGAE abajoooo

La verdad es que sí, no recuerdo la ultima vez que compré algo en España. Juegos de Xbox360, libros y música, viene de UK o de EE.UU. Los CD/DVD en Portugal, que deben flipar con la subida en el PIB que la implantación del canon en España ha tenido.
Lo siento por la “industria de la cultura” en España, pero poneros las pilas que os quedáis fuera y luego vendréis a llorar que si Internet esto, que si el P2P lo otro, que si los portugueses malos y los ingleses más.

Es que vamos, un ejemplo clarito:
X-Men Origins: Wolverine – Uncaged Edition en una página de UK con envío gratuito: 52€
X-Men Orígenes: Lobezno (Normal) en una gran tienda en España: 70€

JA!

118 May 13, 2009 at 18:09 by Gavin

Rob probably doesn’t know that brazil has only 14.1 million INTERNET users, roughly 7.4% of the total population…

119 May 13, 2009 at 18:28 by Anonymous

“TV-show is much shorter on BitTorrent than on eDonkey. With BitTorrent it takes roughly 10 hours” !!

“What are they using – a piece of string with a tin can at each end?”

Plus a drum and smoke signal.

120 May 13, 2009 at 19:07 by another anon

I am glad that the service I use is not even listed. Plus using an IP blocker can help with a lot of these problems too.

Have people really forgot how to research on how NOT to get caught?

121 May 13, 2009 at 19:17 by auntychorp

@#4

“Canada now has more than 3.5 times as many recorded infringements per capita as the US.”

That is most likely very untrue.

These alleged stats (and who is to say they didn’t just pull the numbers out of their a$$es$, submit the report and collect their money) appear to represent all media types.

In Canada, download of music (only) for personal use (only) has been deemed legal because we pay $$$ for it in ad advance (see Private Copy Levy on blank media).

No doubt, the American company producing these alleged statistics interprets the whole world by American (World Cop Inc.) law.

So comparison is meaningless (at least until the idiot harper completes the transfer of ownership of Canada to the US).

122 May 13, 2009 at 19:44 by Diego

Looks like my fellow companions know the same english as a monkey.

Heres the fact:

In Spain, the society of authors and writers (sgae) is the one who’s pulling the law against downloads and is, most probably, giving those stats…

The real problem is that in Spain we pay a tax for each writable Dvd, hard drive, scanner, phone camera…etc, anything that can be used to support a “ilegal” copy. So, this takes me to the point that, although we are the first on the list, we PAY for it.

So screw SGAE, its only a bunch of dead end singers who woudnt get their CD’s sold even if they gave you a house with it…

123 May 13, 2009 at 19:46 by Tenan

Where the heck is China???

124 May 13, 2009 at 20:36 by auntychorp

@125

“Where the heck is China???”

They’re lending billions of $$$ to the US to keep the US economy from tanking completely.

Orders from the top are : Don’t piss China off over something trivial. But go ahead and bully other countries as usual.

125 May 13, 2009 at 20:41 by SGAE , sgae, sgae,

Animo a todos los internautas a que escriban No a la SGAE en cada rincón de Internet.

NO A LA SGAE!, NO A LA SGAE!, NO ALA SGAE!

126 May 13, 2009 at 20:58 by pink panther

Has a download of anything but virusware ever successfully completed on eDonkey? I’ve never seen one.

127 May 13, 2009 at 21:33 by hmmmm

If you want to be sure about if a song is copyrighted just check http://www.copyrightsearch.org

128 May 14, 2009 at 00:50 by Just Sayin

“a band can amass 10,000 downloads and sell fewer than 700 CD’s.”

6-7 CDs sold per 100 peer-to-peer shares is actually a pretty good ratio these days.

129 May 14, 2009 at 01:40 by CircuitRunner

Hi. I was surprised to see all the remarks in Spanish. Isn’t this an English site??? Why would someone post in Spanish? I have nothing against it. I just think that the posts ideally should be in the same language as the rest of the website.
Are the Spanish speakers able to read the article?

The following is my attempt to ask the Spanish speakers to write their posts in English as well as Spanish so everyone can understand them:
Si usted puede leer en ingles por favor escribi usted en ingles tambien. Quiero todos los personas comprender todos las palabras. Muchas personas solo hablan ingles.
Gracias.

130 May 14, 2009 at 03:49 by ME

When they say 10 hours to download a TV show I hope they are talking about a full season. Because an episode takes about 10-30 minutes to download for me.

131 May 14, 2009 at 09:56 by basement dweller

If the number of copyright thefts ™ is that much down in US, doesn’t that mean the lawsuit campaign of RIAA has worked?

They have succeeded in intimidating people to stop. Look how pirating the workprint of Wolverine hurt that movie!!1

132 May 14, 2009 at 11:06 by Ivan

I prefer eMule (ed2k). It has more diversity of files and it does not so slow. the problem is the users of torrents are a freak fans of speed.

133 May 14, 2009 at 16:29 by ...

Okay, just another reason to be proud of living in Spain I guess. Awesome!

134 May 14, 2009 at 18:36 by Eo Nomine

@122: “In Canada, download of music (only) for personal use (only) has been deemed legal because we pay $$$ for it in ad advance (see Private Copy Levy on blank media).”

Actually, contrary to popular belief, this legal theory has not been tested.

In Canada, we pay a blank media levy on certain designated types of blank media; namely black CDs and audiocassettes. However, we do not pay a levy on other forms of blank media, such as DVDs, hard drives, iPods and other mp3 players, etc.

Section 80 of the Canadian Copyright Act says its not an infringement of copyright to make a private copy of a sound recording onto designated blank media. However, it’s still an open questions as to whether the private copying exception applies if the blank media has not been designated…and considering that most forms of media we currently use have not been designated, this is a huge issue.

135 May 15, 2009 at 20:59 by Me

“With BitTorrent it takes roughly 10 hours while eDonkey users may have to wait a full 4 days before their download is complete”.
Ha Ha takes me about 5 min.

136 May 17, 2009 at 12:09 by Lefa

I’ve been thinking of moving back to using eMule once again. It’s a terrific source of rare music and movies. Such that are extremely hard to come by anywhere else.

137 May 21, 2009 at 13:41 by Vlaserted

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138 May 21, 2009 at 20:50 by Buterder

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