Canadian Police Tolerates Piracy For Personal Use

Ernesto
November 11, 2007
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The Canadian police announced that it will stop targeting people who download copyrighted material for personal use. Their priority will be to focus on organized crime and copyright theft that affects the health and safety of consumers instead of the cash flow of large corporations.

Canadian Police Tolerates Piracy For Personal Use Around the same time that the CRIA successfully took Demonoid offline, the Canadian police made clear that Demonoid’s users don’t have to worry about getting caught, at least not in Canada.

According to the Canadian police it is impossible to track down everyone who downloads music or movies off the Internet. The police simply does not have the time nor the resources to go after filesharers.

“Piracy for personal use is no longer targeted,” NoÃ«l St-Hilaire, head of copyright theft investigations of the Canadian police, said in an interview with Le Devoir. “It is too easy to copy these days and we do not know how to stop it,” he added.

St-Hilaire explained that they rather focus on crimes that actually hurt consumers such as copyright violations related to medicine and electrical appliances.

A wise decision, especially since we now know that filesharing has absolutely no impact on music sales. On the contrary, a recent study found that the more music people download on P2P-networks, the more CDs they buy.

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rafiorly

Yay, glad to see someone using their common sense.
misledhope

home sweet home
Anonymous Canadian User

I’m glad to hear this.

It’s unfortunate that organizations like the CRIA are still able to intimidate sites like Demonoid into going down, though.

I’d suggest that anyone who wants to help should donate to quebectorrent.com – so far the only site that has chosen to fight the CRIA rather than give up. Although I don’t speak French, from what I can decipher from their front page, they need around $5,000 CDN to pay legal bills, and are at around 50% of that goal. Hopefully if they succeed, they can set a legal precedent in Canada for torrent sites.
OblivionMage

I am enjoying living in Canada once again, d(^^,)b
MP

Yay! Now all we need is a oink replacement, only for canadians but situated outside of canada…
fedor

Hell, I’m moving to Canada.
I was there …

I’m on my way …
tsolless

Awesome. I really didn’t think that they targeted people beforehand though considering downloading music for personal use is legal. Does this mean that uploading is no longer illegal as well? (Not like they did anything before anyway)
Mik

I only downloaded for personal, medicinal use anyway! :P
HarryF

Well they’re the police, not the record companies themselves (RIAA, CRIA, etc.). The Record companies are the ones who like to pick on random file sharers…which doesn’t change anything.

And the only reason they do it is because they want to increase their profits. They don’t care about the artists, or how much exposure p2p gives them to millions of people who wouldn’t buy the overpriced CDs otherwise.

The battle is not with lawmakers (the police), and it’s certainly not the artists, it’s the record companies vs. the consumers. And they’ve approached it completely the wrong way.
Brian

Alright, what I like to see :D

Go CANADA! hehehe
Tahuti

They have finally seen the light.
Yatti

Meh, has anybody ever been arrested for personal use? I can see piracy factories getting shutdown, but any single person?

The CRIA is trying use their “weight” to push cdn isps\hosts around..

I dont think the police ever cared. Unless your doing something incredibly stupid.
swe

and what are they thinking about torrent index hosted in canada?
(not tracker)
hehedontask

yea guys we’re better off keeping most these comments on a down low.. especially with whats going on in America right now.. poor guys is all i can say. hope they help themselves before it’s too late.
spycopy

ok then, is demonoid coming back ??
In the meantime

Lets help http://oink.cd/
swe

help them for what, are they planing to comeback?
casey

time to pack ;D
deadsoul

Its About Time a country stands up for the consumer because with out the consumer these companys can’t servive the usa needs to grow some ballz and stand up for the comsumer like canada did for people it just don’t make sense don’t get me wrong i love the usa but sometimes it seems like they forget that they were chosen for the people by people
Wanon

How does copyright violations on medicines hurt consumers?

Doesn’t it mean more people can afford the medicine they need…
Braunson

“a recent study found that the more music people download on P2P-networks, the more CDs they buy.” thats what we’ve been telling them for how long (we meaning the warez scene). Lol. I love it. Im a Canadian xD
TotalWimp

Hell! I need to move!
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Bassam

Canada ftw!
Free Pirate Alliance

allthough the cops are not coming after the personal downloader
the CRIA and MPAA and RIAA are still hunting us.
I would like to know the cops stance on demonoid though….

but at least things are looking up :)

Long Live P2P!
anfleunek

Makes sense. What’s the point of spending resources on something minor?

Way to go Canada. Now the CRIA needs to back off and leave Demonoid alone.
TD123

Finally, the police in our country (i reside in canada) are using their brains. Its obvious they can’t track everyone.

GJ, now if only you would let demonoid have its servers back…
h33t

“Piracy for personal use is no longer targeted”

- fact is it was NEVER targeted by the police because “piracy for personal use” is an oxymoron

“It is too easy to copy these days and we do not know how to stop it”

- wise words from a smart policeman, even if talking slightly out of his box, it is a welcome message to the **AA who are aggressively pushing for criminal sanctions against people who copy for personal use

[quote]
St-Hilaire explained that they rather focus on crimes that actually hurt consumers such as copyright violations related to medicine and electrical appliances
[/quote]

- national policing of bad information that hurts people. now that is a good thing, state regulation rather than state interference

good reporting guys :D
martin

O’ Canada
our home and native land,
to save the consumers,
and all their P2P rights!
with glowing torrent and crazy limewire
The true north strong and free!
from far and wide, O canada we download movies for thee!
O canada, we pirate movies for thee
O canada, we pirate movies for thee!!!
kyro

Sadly this doesn’t mean Canadian’s are safe. They can still be held accountable for illegal P2P/Downloading. It doesn’t mean the copyright holders wont be able to form their own ‘police-type-squad’ to track and then prosecute, it’s just the Canadian Police wont be doing the hunting for them.
Simon

Kyro, actually it does. Due to taxing of our cd’s & mp3 players the courts decided the copyright holders couldn’t go against us in court since they fought for those taxes. So the police were the only people left to go after us.
TorrentTutorials.com

This is news? not really been this way for 10 years ever since mp3 trading became popular. Its not the police you have to worry about however it is the Lawyers that are going to sue you.
Dudley Duwright

Who are the Canadian Police?
Ace404

Typical!!! Remove the best torrent website and then say its okay to download off the net. Go to Hell!!
ace403

Another reason to move to Canada…
Mike B

Is this even real? I can’t find a reference.
Marty

Canadian police = RCMP-> Royal Canadian Mounted Police, or in french the GRC -> Gendarmerie Royale du Canada. Think of them as the FBI. If it’s legal with the FBI then it must be legal with the smaller municipal police :P

According to the french article though l’ADISQ (A Quebec RIAA) won’t give up it’s fight… But meh, who downloads stuff from Quebec artists? :P
Marty

^36, there’s a link to the Devoir in the article, The Devoir is essentially the most serious newspaper you can have, it’s like the New York Times, without the bias…
Sentinel

Downloading for personal use has been legal in Canada for years now. This is just a statement made to reiterate the fact. Look up the case regarding “SONY BMG vs. John Doe”

This is the fundamental case that made downloading legal in Canada for years. So long as it’s for personal use.
Drew

Who is the Canadian police? The RCMP?

The RCMP is more interested in counterfeit DVD’s then me or you downloading some movies to avoid the crazy prices.
QWERTY

RCMP > FBI
MJ

Downloading for personal use sounds like weed for personal use…. i wish the govn’t would feel the same way about that like they do for file sharing lol.

possession of marijuana (for personal use) : $200
Downloading the Kanye album: Free
Lawsuit for Kanye album in the US: $100000
Living in Canada: Priceless.
Fred

Downloading music in Canada is 100% legal anyway and always has been, so what the f are they talking about?
Ryan

The CBC reported that music sharing as been proven to actually increase CD sales, while in another report two days later detailing the debunking of Oink, it stated that file sharing has been the main reason for falling CD sales. Seems the CBC has some consistency issues.
kiderjones

That’s the most poorly written article I’ve read in a while!
Show me some credentials, or at least elaborate on “Canadian Police”.
hehe
Kirzen

What’s the big deal, in Canada you can’t be even be sued by a media company unless they can prove that you distributed the content to others, or were displaying it publicly in some manner.

Personal use of copyright material without distibution has never been a crime in the first place…
Perry

Sweet. Gotta love being in Canada
Random American

who is now moving to canada, Torrents, Social Health Care and cold weather See ya guys in a few weeks!

I am so sick of the states all for me mentality Euro countries got one thing right and that is you have to look more at the we then me but the states has so many people “Searching for the dream while stepping over each other without care” that they forget to just enjoy life. I am proud of some things in America but the politics and ME attitudes i am not.
cha

almost makes up for not getting the iPhone…..almost
Anonymous

This article, while nice, doesn’t say anything new. It’s reads as if it were written by a fellow P2Pr.
Trent

Unbelievable. This sounds too good to be true. Cops actually going after real criminals and not hired thugs for corporations?

I have to let this one sink in.
Drew

One thing that the media, CRIA, and interest groups seem to miss repeatedly….

Downloading and copying music in Canada is currently *legal*. It’s called Private Copying, and has been upheld repeatedly in the Canadian courts.

The last major court case regarding private copying (CRIA trying to extract downloaders’ information from Telus, Rogers, et al) in fact upheld that for all intensive purposes an “upload” by one person is a “download” by somebody else and would probably still be legal.

Short story – there’s no such thing as an “illegal” music download in Canada. Period. CRIA is trying to change this, but at the moment it’s just a lie on CRIA’s part.
Slacker

I fail to see how this is newsworthy. How many recorded cases are there of people getting prosecuted for personal piracy?

http://askaslacker.blogspot.com
Sheldon

The “Canada police”?

Makes it sound like Canada is a single town.

Pretty sure it’s RCMP.
ANTON

IS THIS R.I.P 4 Demonoid????
99

n1 nothing to add

I doubt it’s the end of demonoid, well at least I hope it’s. I hope/think they’ll just move.
99

typo, of course I hope it’s NOT :F
Danny

Good on ‘em I say.
It seems like they are caching up with the times now.

Hopefully this will be one of the first step of many more to come.
bubbakush

score 1
for canada eh?
great news boys!
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Anonymous

There is now also an article on http://www.TheRegister.co.uk about torrenting.

Today I have gone completely over to encrypted connections only. This limits somewhat my downloads but on the other hand gives me more privacy. It also supports those who can only do torrenting when encryption is enabled (and otherwise would get throttled) and makes more slots available to them.

After reading the article I believe it is time to force the use of encryption.
3z3

That’s all fine and well. Too bad that the f’ing CIRA doesn’t report to the RCMP. Regardless, unless a Canadian album is amazing, I will never buy another CD from a major label again.

The recording industry should realize it’s a dinosaur living on borrowed time. With the ability to inexpensively produce music of professional quality from a home studio, and then distribute it without the need to sign their soul away to a parasite in exchange for exposure, the centralized industry model is no longer required.

Besides, with names like Nelly Furtado, Avril Lavigne and the like being promoted like they’re the cream of the crop for pop, it’s no wonder the recording industry is confused why their sales are low.
novernetsbandit

lets all move to canada. Where they have healthcare and rules that sometimes make sense.. expect for the you can smoke pot just cant buy it… um okay how do u do that?
RealMonster

Everyone read post 52. Downloading music is LEGAL. Filesharing is LEGAL. They can’t target us because there’s no law that we can be arrested under.

The REAL fight is trying to stop parliament from passing a useless law that’ll make our current situation illegal and perhaps force the RCMP to try to come after people again.
Mike

So, where is your source????????? Or is this just hearsay?
Hanz

That’s why our dollar is so strong. We Canadians, are smart.
extraextra

While it may be cheaper to purchase infringed copyright medicinal supplies, these drugs never passed legal laws of certification.

Cheap, but what if it has poison on it?
Chris345

[quote comment="209886"]Who are the Canadian Police?[/quote]

I guess he means RCMP, but who knows what these friggin Americans think.
I guess they are relating it to their “American police”.
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Phillip

Hey, Terance. It’s cool to be Canadian, isn’t?
london boy

dont get too happy, other countries can still sue you.
Anonymous

I was excited to hear this until I realized something:

The police, who make criminal charges, are not and have never been a threat to personal-use file sharers ANYWHERE.

The people who make waves are not the cops, but companies who file civil lawsuits against individuals.

So, regretfully, this really isn’t all that exciting, since the police have never been interested in personal file sharing, or really file sharing in general.

When the RIAA/MPAA makes a similar statement, then I’ll celebrate… by having a snowball fight in hell.
Dash

There is something seriously wrong with the reported Demonoid situation. Read the posts about legal music sharing (39, 52, …) and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_sharing_in_Canada

Demonoid could NOT be shut down by the CRIA. The CRIA only has authority over musical works, and they have been legal to both download and upload for quite some time, and the CRIA knows that. Demonoid could be taken down for other copyrighted works like movies, but the CRIA has no rights over those.

So, somebody explain to me what actually happened to Demonoid.
lol

Finally, someone realizes this. It’s about time. Now, only if American police realize this too… :(
mlauzon

Really, you need to change:

‘Canadian police’ in your story to RCMP, which is essentially Canada’s FBI. And, yes I know what I am talking about because I am Canadian.
Anonymous

^^ Dash: Demoid certainly COULD be shut down by the CIRA, because all the CIRA has to do is write a legal threat to the company that owns Demonoid’s servers, at which point that company decides it’s not worth the risk. There’s not really any legality involved at this point.
BoReD

It’s never been about Demonoid….!! It’s about a lame ass hosting Co. that wants Demonoid money but is afraid of the CRIA. If you want to bame someone blame the American puppet CRIA and the Canadian, weak ass Hosting Co. Not Demonoid… It would be interesting to find out who the artical refers to when they talk Canadian police. Canada has City Police and Provincial Police and a National Police RCMP but we don’t have something called the Canadian police. A clarification would be nice as provincial police such as the QPP or OPP only have provincial jurisdiction. ONly the RCMP would be referring to Canada as a whole. Torrentfreak please clarify….
Anonymous

When Napster started up I communicated with the government whether or not it was legal to download. The answer I got was that it was illegal to upload, but downloading was seen as part of fair use guidelines. Also, the blank media levy (21 cents for every blank cd sold goes to the record companies) basically neuters the record companies from arguing that they’re losing money. On top of everything else, when the CRIA tried RIAA style lawsuits they were thrown out of court before they could start. They were told that the identification of individuals by IP was not admissible.

This is really a non-story because Canadian downloaders have never been in the gun sights.
mlauzon

BoReD, go here:

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ledevoir.com%2F2007%2F11%2F08%2F163562.html&langpair=fr%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
kms

[quote comment="210024"]“… that for all intensive purposes…”[/quote]

all intents and purposes
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So i ask

So could people now have some sort of VPN thing set up from abroad to canada and that way be safe or something? i dont know these things, so i ask
mlauzon

[quote comment="210512"][quote comment="210024"]“… that for all intensive purposes…”[/quote]

all intents and purposes[/quote]

Oh, look…here come the forum police! Fuck off, we do not need people like you telling other people how to use grammer properly!
frank

In we are boycotting All the RIAA/MPAA members and particularly the main instigators by order of responsability: Vinvendi/Universal Sony/BMG, EMI, Time/Warner.

Continue the boycott!

Let’s get ride of these self serving parasites!
Anonymous

I WIN.
Xveers

[quote]
St-Hilaire explained that they rather focus on crimes that actually hurt consumers such as copyright violations related to medicine and electrical appliances
[/quote]

This probably refers to counterfeit products like knockoff lava lamps that start fires (by not meeting basic safety code regs) and the same for medicines (yes, it says asprin on the bottle but it’s really just sugar pills).

IMO far better things to aim at with the cops, since these things DO cause personal damage and injury. Can’t remember the last time I had my house burnt down by an mp3…
Stephen Downes

It’s not piracy. Canadians pay a royalty on all blank media that is paid to CRIA members. So content that has been downloaded has already ben paid for. Which is hardly piracy.
Anonymous

well done. im glad i live in canada.
Anonymous

god i love Canada
Sean

Ummm filesharing doesn’t hurt record sales? Are you retarded? The study just shows that some people that download also buy CDs. Look at record sales in the past two years since torrenting has because extremely popular.
proud_to_be_Canadian

Ohhhhhh Canadaaaa … My home and Native landddd!
The Canadian Geezer

With this announcement we take additional pride in our National Police Force … Intelligence within the ranks has won out over lobbyist pressure that would have them wasting hundreds of thousands of valuable crime fighting hours on pursuing citizens who are in effect using the new ‘digital library’ of the world …. File sharing like radio listening is now an activity of millions of people worldwide … and by file sharing they are not exchanging a ‘tangible’ entity — no ‘real’ tactile goods are being exchanged … The greediest elements of humanity can no longer copyright ‘ethereal’ entities like words, thoughts, music or images anymore than the church could stop dissemination of the ‘Word’ in its myriad forms after Gutenberg brought about the first printing press …

The RCMP are aware that the “Age of The Digital Gutenberg” is upon us and they are doing the right thing by saying forget about file sharing … They are demonstrating superior leadership in the ‘morality’ of law enforcement by focusing on the areas of ‘REAL CRIME’ … and there is certainly enough of that going on out here in the non-digital world as well as in cyber-space!!!
cheeseeater

[quote comment="210429"]Really, you need to change:

‘Canadian police’ in your story to RCMP, which is essentially Canada’s FBI. And, yes I know what I am talking about because I am Canadian.[/quote]

The RCMP ARE NOT like the FBI. The RCMP are Canada’s official police force. If a municipality, city, town, whatever decides to have their own private police force (ie. Vancouver City Police, Ontario Provincial Police, etc.) then they can, but the RCMP are still there to provide OTHER SERVICES not provided by the local police force. In my local community, the RCMP are the only police force, from high school liaison to highway patrol.

Get your facts right or don’t post.
Anon Y. Mouse

[quote comment="210816"][quote comment="210429"]Really, you need to change:

‘Canadian police’ in your story to RCMP, which is essentially Canada’s FBI. And, yes I know what I am talking about because I am Canadian.[/quote]

The RCMP ARE NOT like the FBI. The RCMP are Canada’s official police force. If a municipality, city, town, whatever decides to have their own private police force (ie. Vancouver City Police, Ontario Provincial Police, etc.) then they can, but the RCMP are still there to provide OTHER SERVICES not provided by the local police force. In my local community, the RCMP are the only police force, from high school liaison to highway patrol.

Get your facts right or don’t post.[/quote]

He was posting it that way, so the Americans could understand. I do happen to work for the RCMP, and both of you are correct. I do not see anything wrong with filesharing myself. But, what the article talks about may change in the not to distant future.
Julian

Time to move to Canada…
dave

I think the point of this whole story was that the RCMP in Canada are not going after individuals anymore and going to crack down on people who sell other illegal items that hurt people. I’m a film producer and last year our private investment group lost 1.8 million in revenue (at least and still counting) to piracy in Canada and the rest of the world. 5 years ago we could put together our little films and make 20% margins on the sale of that film. That budget paid over 40 peoples wages and delivered a solid product. Now…our investment group, which is made up of construction guys, musicians, and local business people have lost all their money and will not participate in this industry. People can make a record for 5K. A movie is not so easy. There needs to be a solution so that the next industry that is being hit is not diluted to producing below than mediocre content because there is no money to pay skilled people to make the films.

I’d like to hear feedback from some of you on what you think about film piracy as it has really affected our group.

without prejudice
mizkitty

For all those people who can’t see a cited reference, the second link goes directly to the original French language newspaper article. The GRC is the French name for the RCMP (or the “Mounties”).
The article refers to copying, which has never been illegal in Canada. It’s only illegal to make the content available to others for downloading.
The record industry in Canada actually collects a tariff on blank recording media to compensate for personal copying.
If the CRIA ever tries to go after someone for copying, a class-action suit to recover all those tariffs would be a nice reaction.
tedro

I knew Canadians were smart when they said bush was a idiot. now this just proves it
err

Dave,
It’s obvious your films are probably shit and no one is into them anymore hence no sales. Films have always been a risk and usually lost money even before the internet came along. One day you make a movie that everyone loves about a topic people are interested, next you make a similar movie and people have moved on and it bombs.

I don’t see the big movies which are half decent pulling in a loss and which people have a hell of alot more interest in pirating than anything you would have produced. How about you dont blame P2P but rather your groups lack of talent in producing a solid product that people want and consider good enough to pay for. Just because you have a biased view of how good and solid you think your film is doesn’t mean that is what people want.
ywgflyer

Fuck yeah. Among other things, the worrying about the OiNK takedown can end now for everyone up here in Canuckland =)

…now it’s off to ?cd for my nightly lookaround…
Siliticx

it doesnt change the fact that most Big ISPs here are using traffic shaping.
dave

[quote comment="210862"]Dave,
It’s obvious your films are probably shit and no one is into them anymore hence no sales. Films have always been a risk and usually lost money even before the internet came along. One day you make a movie that everyone loves about a topic people are interested, next you make a similar movie and people have moved on and it bombs.

I don’t see the big movies which are half decent pulling in a loss and which people have a hell of alot more interest in pirating than anything you would have produced. How about you dont blame P2P but rather your groups lack of talent in producing a solid product that people want and consider good enough to pay for. Just because you have a biased view of how good and solid you think your film is doesn’t mean that is what people want.[/quote]
dave

[quote comment="210898"][quote comment="210862"]Dave,
It’s obvious your films are probably shit and no one is into them anymore hence no sales. Films have always been a risk and usually lost money even before the internet came along. One day you make a movie that everyone loves about a topic people are interested, next you make a similar movie and people have moved on and it bombs.

I don’t see the big movies which are half decent pulling in a loss and which people have a hell of alot more interest in pirating than anything you would have produced. How about you dont blame P2P but rather your groups lack of talent in producing a solid product that people want and consider good enough to pay for. Just because you have a biased view of how good and solid you think your film is doesn’t mean that is what people want.[/quote][/quote]

Obviously you nothing of the film finance world or you wouldn’t have made comments on Studio Films not reporting losses. If you had any idea as to where the funding came from for big picture studio “marketed” films you’d also keep quiet. As to my films, like I said earlier…they all made money and some have won some pretty cool festival awards.

I was just asking a few people if they had a suggestion. Your lack of knowledge proves to me that you are at best, an average respondent to these blogs and perhaps a real education as to how a film is made, where the money goes, who gets paid and who does not is needed.

“I don’t see the big movies which are half decent pulling in a loss and which people have a hell of a lot more interest in pirating than anything you would have produced.”

This quote defines you as an idiot…period. Anyone else who would like to learn how big films get made drop me a line….ERR…you can take a seat at the back of the short bus with the rest of the numpties.
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chris

Poor America faces some major changes I read:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-7068964,00.html

The Guardian reports US Congress is about to change “privacy”.

Donald Kerr states:
“Privacy no longer can mean anonymity, says Donald Kerr, the principal deputy director of national intelligence. Instead, it should mean that government and businesses properly safeguard people’s private communications and financial information…”

I’m sorry for you guys in LobbyLand.
$hadow

Finally they started using theyr brains, sad that was after demonoid was shutdown.
FRuMMaGe

What a great “just fuck it” attitude they have
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green_meklar

They might be doing it for the wrong reasons, but hey, at least they’re doing the right thing. It’s high time people smartened up and stopped all this ‘intellectual property’ garbage, it doesn’t make sense either philosophically or economically. Hopefully the digital age will help us get ourselves out of this primitive quagmire of patents and copyrights.
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Help!!!

Seeing as downloading copyrighted material in Canada is legal this declaration is meaningless. I guess the RCMP need a lesson in copyright law.
American

Dave, well if going to a movie for 2 didnt cost over 40 dollars I wouldnt mind paying to see it. 10 dollars for tickets a piece. Comon, that is just greedy.
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Anonymous

[quote comment="209638"]I only downloaded for personal, medicinal use anyway! :P[/quote]

/signed
Alex

[quote comment="209723"]How does copyright violations on medicines hurt consumers?

Doesn’t it mean more people can afford the medicine they need…[/quote]

People sell literally fake medicine. It’s very dangerous.
gerisk8

to Misledhope

I wish I could say that ;(
gerisk8

I wish that the police would say the same in my country
Lasties

Refreshing, frank, common sense attitude. Canada just leveled up. :)
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PhÃ¦drus

About tanj time someone realized that. Hopefully the US will follow suit, ’cause what’s going on now is just ridiculous.
Ex0de

Go Canada Go!!!
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ch0zen

Thats a step in the right way…
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Grammar Police

–The police simply >does not< have the time nor the resources to go after filesharers.–

You should change it to, “Do not”.

Check out my torrent site and if you like you can do a story on it. :D
Grammar Police

My site is plenty of torrents dot com.
Senses

heh, finally, it seems that they’re realizing some people just won’t resort to buying CD’s because they can’t dl them by p2p…wise choice, for sure.

i actually just bought two cd’s even though i first got them from p2p…i wanted to get the real cd, not just the files

bravo!
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monzel

acbocbas
balls

[quote comment="209665"]yea guys we’re better off keeping most these comments on a down low.. especially with whats going on in America right now.. poor guys is all i can say. hope they help themselves before it’s too late.[/quote]

wait whats going on in america? i’m american and i have no idea what your talking about..
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asobermindisawasted1

[quote comment="215536"][quote comment="209665"]yea guys we’re better off keeping most these comments on a down low.. especially with whats going on in America right now.. poor guys is all i can say. hope they help themselves before it’s too late.[/quote]

wait whats going on in america? i’m american and i have no idea what your talking about..[/quote]

Probably me, and no, i’m not trying to be funny.
CHONGO

what is http://www.btguard.com/? U try that?
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robin hood

It would seem that the point is that of international copyright law since bit torrent effects more than just canada and that collection of yanks known as the cria. international copyright law states that anything may be copied in part for personal or educational use. since bit torrents only copy a part of a file from any one person down loading or uploading is not a crime. thus the trouble with enforcement and conviction.

from nottingham.
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Harsha

yeah! lets go to Canada!!!w00t!
d-ranged

i’ve been to canada. it’s ok to visit. and you can pirate anywhere in the world, including the place where all the pirated material is coming from: the us of a.

this article is typical, however, of nonsense pro-’sharing’ journalism; they ‘know’ pirating has no effect on sales? please. if you hate the RIAA/MPAA/Software protection poeple, don’t buy or use their fucking products, or just admit you copy files cause you don’t like spending money for something you can get for free.
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tom

Go Canucks!!!!!!!!!!!
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Canadian Guy

Good to hear. Finally I can sleep at night without worry of the RCMP breaking down my door and searching through my hard drive and cd/dvd’s

Hmmm sounds like uploading is not quite legal according to one post. I’ll have to keep seeding though It’s each our our own responsibility to keep the files moving. I AM CANADIAN and no freekin’ leecher
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SFCLA

Yay!
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IAMCANADIAN

CANADA FTW
UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE + GUN BANS = WIN
HAHA AT AMERICANS
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