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Comcast Punishes BitTorrent Pirates With Browser Hijack

Comcast revealed today how it will deal with customers who receive multiple warnings under the newly launched “six-strikes” anti-piracy system. After four alerts the ISP will “hijack” web-browsers of suspected serial pirates with a persistent pop-up notification, making it impossible to browse the Internet. The pop-up will disappear after the customer “resolves the issue” with a Customer Security Assurance professional.

pirateEarlier this week when the six strikes system launched, little was known (officially) about the punishments ISPs were planning for persistent pirates.

Since then Verizon reinstated their copyright alerts section, revealing the mitigation measured that leaked last month. Today Comcast follows with a brief overview on how they will handle things.

In common with other ISPs, Comcast will start out with friendly alerts informing customers that their account has been used to share copyrighted material, accompanied with an email listing details on the alleged infringement. After four warnings, repeated offenders will then enter the “mitigation phase” during which their service will be interrupted.

Comcast has chosen a browser “hijack,” making it impossible for customers to browse the Internet, but without interrupting VOIP and other essential services.

“If a consumer fails to respond to several Copyright Alerts, Comcast will place a persistent alert in any web browser under that account until the account holder contacts Comcast’s Customer Security Assurance professionals to discuss and help resolve the matter,” Comcast writes.


First alert notification

comcast-alert

How quickly customers will be able to resolve the matter and what they will have to do remains a mystery. However, the ISP stresses that no accounts will be terminated under the copyright alert program.

“We will never use account termination as a mitigation measure under the CAS. We have designed the pop-up browser alerts not to interfere with any essential services obtained over the Internet.”

Comcast further assures its customers that the browser hijack system has been tested for years, and that it should work smoothly.

“The browser alert system has been tested for years by Comcast as part of our program to alert our subscribers when their Internet access device is infected by a malicious bot, and the alert technology is now being deployed for this purpose,” Comcast explains.

In addition, the ISP emphasizes that the privacy is secured, up to a certain degree.

“We’ve worked with the Center for Copyright Information and outside experts in privacy, education and consumer rights to design the Copyright Alert System in a way that will safeguard our customers’ privacy and ensure we don’t share any personal customer information under this system with anyone.”

Comcast can be asked to hand over IP-addresses of persistent infringers, and the ISP acknowledges that copyright holders can then obtain a subpoena to reveal the personal details of the account holder for legal action.

Provided that doesn’t happen, the measures should seem rather reasonable to most.

A group that wont be happy with the new regime is the Open Wireless Movement. The tens of thousands of people who share their Internet connection with neighbors or complete strangers will no longer be able to do so.

Conversely, VPN providers and BitTorrent proxies can look forward to new clientele.

During the weeks to come we hope to learn more about the efficiency of the copyright alert system, and how the various alerts and mitigation measures work in the wild.

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  • anon

    adblock will remove that.

    • DoobyDoo

      considering this will probably be implemented on a DNS level, AdBlock will probably do shit

      • Teehee

        DNS change. Also what if I use ips to access websites?

        • J

          I also wonder that… If you changed the default DNS servers to opendns or google perhaps you could get around it? I’m not sure.

        • ScrewEwe2

          I’ve been using BlockAid.me for about 4 months now.

        • TRUX

          “An important message from COMCAST:
          We’re going to hack you” haha

          Things are turning more weird
          day after day in US.

        • Spank

          This CAS program is really designed to get kids in trouble with moms and dads. It’s a “smack the kid” pop-up. Funny … kids grow up eventually … and they remember.

        • Christopher Kidwell

          Right in one.

        • nonamthanks

          Yup, they remember, they need internet service, and they only have one or two choices. 50% of them will remember how bad one choice was and use only the other, and the other half the reverse, pretty much rendering it nul.

          It’s nice how that works out.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          Or they become aware, install a plugin fixing the problem, or even more likely, begin investing in a cheap VPN or a free proxy.

          Alternatively employ a solution rendering it impossible for the ISP to have knowledge of where they’ve been and what they’ve done.

          I think we’re back to where you claim anyone capable of installing and using a bittorrent client would have problems implementing an easy fix on top of it.

          Those people who find this complex? Not the ones pirating, mate.

        • Gene Poole

          For that matter, play completely dumb. Utilize OpenDNS and you’ll never get a single strike, as far as you know anyway. Makes plausible deniability that much easier. 6 strikes averted, back to square one.

          I maintain that there’s nothing any filesharer is doing wrong, and hiding it just hides the problem, it doesn’t do anything to fix it.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          Worse still, since all of these ISP’s already use the engine in order to push unwanted ads as intrusive popus on their customer base, most legal customers with any clue have already taken steps to ensure the popups will never be seen.

          Nonamthanks is once again failing to see the “solution” he is so confidently crowing victory over was bypassed five years ago.

          That’s just life in the sect of copyright, I guess. Ignoring any fact of history and knowledge not written in scripture.

        • nonamthanks

          Even if you shift to a VPN, your sheer volume of activity is likely to give you away. You may never see the popups, but at some point, you may find your account “parked” and your connectivity limited because you aren’t paying attention to them.

          (…and yes, before you go on a rant, I understand that the traffic on VPN would be encoded. But oddly, having a ton of traffic in both directions might be enough to get them to wondering. Unless you work like a dog and are willing to wait a long time for purposely slowed downloads, limited uploads, etc… your activity will always stand out. More so of course if they have already tagged you are a file trader, and you shift to VPN and keep using about the same amount of bandwidth).

        • Gene Poole

          Even if you shift to a VPN, your sheer volume of activity is likely to give you away.

          Wow, SDM is right…you really have no clue what the fuck you are talking about. “sheer volume of activity” that is identical to normal web activity, streaming video via youtube, downloading perfectly legal linux .isos, etc. Yet magically your ISP knows that, by using a vpn, and engaging in internet activity, they magically “know” that you’re engaging in some illicit behaviour.

          Thank fucking christ you’re not in charge of the DOJ.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          Judging from the ICE seizures and parts of the Megaupload fiasco, someone similarly with the same sort of indoctrination poor nonamthanks, bobmail and Anon are suffering must indeed be placed in the DoJ.

          Which is why we all got ourselves a few good disbelieving laughs at the domain seizures.

        • djnforce9

          “having your account parked” clashes with the notion that an account won’t be terminated because in both cases, you cannot use your connection. It also clashes with not disrupting other services such as Voip. You really don’t know what you’re talking about.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          “Even if you shift to a VPN, your sheer volume of activity is likely to give you away. “

          You really aren’t very bright, are you?

          Now, you may consider that anyone running a TOR node has a similar amount of traffic. Anyone legally seeding open-source software will have even more traffic. Anyone running mail servers will have more…

          We tried to explain to bobmail, that poor unfortunate, that you would have to put quite a sizeable group under suspicion, not even limited to computer amateurs and professionals.

          The first ones to go under suspicion would be – ta-dah – netflix and hulu subscribers. And a lot of legal home-run consulting businesses.

          Now, part and parcel of your problem is simple. You don’t understand how many people actually possess traffic patterns similar to filesharers.

          And similar to every other statement on IT-based solutions you have made here, you never seem keen on actually trying to learn.

          Finally…

          “But oddly, having a ton of traffic in both directions might be enough to get them to wondering…”

          Because last time I checked, paying for bandwidth and actually using it should in itself be considered “suspicious behavior”. And allow the ISP to do what, physically monitor your machine by hacking it to circumvent your encryption?

          Call the police and impound your desktop?

          Or, in quite a lot of cases, impounding the computer belonging to the unfortunate guy who pissed off the wrong neighbor?

          It’s actually amazing, nonamthanks, how you can write that many words in a row without getting even one statement right. So far that was the trademark of “Anon” and “bobmail”.

          Say what you like about the copyright church but they certainly do a proper job brainwashing you poor slobs.

        • MadAsASnake

          Oh, so heavy data users must be pirates now?

        • n_mailer

          “Even if you shift to a VPN, your sheer volume of activity is likely to give you away.”

          This again?

          Sheer volume has nothing to do with six strikes and is not evidence of infringement or anything else.

          Nobody is monitoring for “sheer volume.” They’re interested in marketing against BitTorrent, not cutting down on “sheer volume.” It will not in any way get them wondering.

        • http://news.mensactivism.org/ Jhon Deo

          Your comment doesn’t make any sense. Take statistics 101 at your local community college. Or refrain making posts that attempt to use applied probability theory.

        • GranD

          And being it’s USA, they will get a firearm later
          to solve those problems.

        • http://news.mensactivism.org/ Jhon Deo

          One can only hope!

      • anon

        That’s true! :) i don’t live the United States tho, i live in Spain and i paid a year upfront for a dedicated VPN that don’t keep logs :) i download 24/7 i have a small acer i keep open that downloads my shows/movies. my internet provider does know im using bitorrent and other sites im not allowed. they told me (if you keep us out of trouble we don’t mind) that’s exactly what im doing, im hiding my IP and everything, its sad to see something like this happen to America, they say its the land of free, when in fact it was never free and will never be free.

        I have extra bedrooms if you guys want to move to Spain and download.

        Haha :)

        • Ed Chavez

          VPN’s can be used in America too buddy.

        • johnhamelink

          VPNs shouldn’t be necessary and it’s America’s industry which is spearheading the attack against an open web, “buddy”.

        • VPN

          Do your banking at an open wifi hotspot.

        • Ed Chavez

          Says who ? You ? VPN’s are for security, and there is always a need for security so pull your head out of your butt and stop saying dumb stuff.

        • johnhamelink

          What I’m saying is, the internet should be anonymous by default – it is a reality that they are needed now, but they are a necessity due to state and corporate spying and the dismantling of the distributed nature of the internet. I don’t think it’s dumb to say they shouldn’t be necessary and its something we should collectively fight to get to the point where it isn’t necessary when communicating with other people (open hotspots are a different matter from reporting police brutality, as an example). And it’s American industry (music, gaming, movie industry, military industrial complex) that’s lobbying the American government very hard to implement limitations that necessitate using VPNs to do basic communications anonymously. The rest of the western world just blindly tags along, and if they fight the US blackmails them with trading sanctions.

        • nonamthanks

          Real like isn’t anonymous by default. There is no reason you should be able to do online what you wouldn’t do in public for people seeing your face or knowing who you are.

          If you walk into my store, I see you and know who you are. Online, you are an IP (often shifting) and a few other details, but not a person.

        • Gene Poole

          The internet is not a marketplace.

          Anonymity is one of the pillars of free speech.

          Your analogy fails. A more reasonable analogy is that if you send a letter to the editor of the newspaper, they have no way of knowing whether the name and address you attach to the letter is your true identity or not. Nor should they have any right to.

          btw that’s a real life communication. a communication that’s anonymous by default.

          How about that? You’re full of shit, as usual.

        • nonamthanks

          If all you were doing was expressing free speech (by writing naughty comment, example) there would be no issue. However, breaking the law isn’t free speech.

          When you stand in a public area and chat with someone else, nobody will ask your ID, yet at the same time, your visibility, your “public face” makes it possible for you to be identified, filmed, what ever (public place, remember). Free speech isn’t some sort of unlimited cover that allows you to engage in illegal activities and think that nobody can look at you to see.

        • Gene Poole

          breaking the law isn’t free speech.

          That’s so much bullshit I don’t even know where to begin. Are you implying that free speech cannot break the law?

          #Nelson Mandela
          #Martin luther King Jr.
          #Mahatma Gandhi
          #Rosa Parks

          Furthermore, pursuant to your statement that speech is not equatable with filesharing, I’d direct you to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights:

          Article 19.

          Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

          And finally, just to quash your statement entirely, were I in a public venue, I could certainly maintain the right to conceal my face via a Guy Fawkes mask, or some sort of dress that blocks facial recognition. I could put pebbles in ym shoes to obfuscate my identity from gait recognition. I could utilize garments that block my body heat from thermal imaging cameras, I could use voice modulators to obfuscate my vocal patterns. In short, I could be perfectly anonymous in a public place. Anonymity is a right and freedom, regardless of venue.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          “When you stand in a public area and chat with someone else, nobody will ask your ID, yet at the same time, your visibility, your “public face” makes it possible for you to be identified…”

          Which is similar to using a nickname and a style of writing, online.

          Whereas identifying a person properly is the online equivalent as not being able to move in any public area at all without someone constantly checking your papers.

          Ye gods…The man advocates absolute and utter totalitarianism and fails to realize it. Because he doesn’t know what he’s saying.

        • Gene Poole

          Look where it’s coming from. If our troll were so impressed with ‘real world’ interaction his name certainly wouldn’t be “nonamthanks”, it would be “Bob Johnson” or the like. Clearly he values online anonymity.

        • MST3K

          Bob Johnson or Blast Hardcheese.

        • Gene Poole

          I always loved Penny Arcade’s tendency to name every CEO “Bob”. The CEO of Logitech was “Bob Logitech”. The president of Sony was “Robert Sony”. fucking loved it.

        • Zumzum

          Copyright infringement isn’t breaking the law, it’s infringing a right. They’re two very different things.

        • Kal

          Copyright Infringement is illegal. I’m not saying it should be (I think the notion of copyright as a “right,” rather than an antiquated monopoly, is total bull shit), but Copyright Infringement is absolutely breaking the law.

        • Asashii

          Anonymity is one of the pillars for a weak coward who doesnt stand behind what he preaches, then the white hooded KKK must be your heroes!

        • Gene Poole

          Keep going. I’m sure you can work hitler in there if you try a little harder ;-)

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          “Real like isn’t anonymous by default. “

          Because everyone is walking around prominently displaying their real name and adress on a blinking billboard?

          Or were you saying that at any time you adressed someone on the street, in a store, in a pub, when using a mailbox or a pay telephone and/or entering a mall you must identify yourself with your name, citizens identification number, and adress?

          Not only do you fail to understand IT – you are equally clueless concerning how REAL LIFE works?

          Where do you live, Syria? North Korea?

          “If you walk into my store, I see you and know who you are.”

          Because you have magical eyes and can tell an unknown stranger’s true identity without him offering you a word?

          Or does your store have a strict “Papieren, Bitte!”-policy so no one can enter without checking their id at the door?

          You know the more I learn about the doctrine of your church, the more you people convince me we pirates literally can not fail to win.

        • The_Doorman

          Real life is anonymous by default. When you walk by people on the street, you aren’t provided with their name, e-mail address, home address, telephone number, credit history or any other personal information. You get to know what they look like, and what they are currently wearing. That’s it. (Of course Google Glass integrated with facial recognition software will put an end to that… but as they are not even available to the public at the moment, its hypothetical speculation).

          But until they come out – real life IS anonymous by default.

        • Asashii

          the minute you are born you get a social security number and you are not anon, so by default you are not anon!

        • The_Doorman

          Nonsense. You do not have access to the SSN of everyone walking down the street. That information is simply not available to you.

        • MadAsASnake

          And on the flipside, there is no reason real-world laws and norms shouldn’t apply to the internet too. 6 strikes has no basis in law, and provides no evidence at all. It’s like a shopkeeper randomly accusing shoppers of stealing and banning them from the high street. It’s no more acceptable on the internet than it is in the flesh.

        • IDIOCRACY

          hey Bobby is that you again making an @ss out of yourself??? oh a new name… well doesn’t matter,.. you still sound like your one braincell died long ago. Didn’t you learn that Downloading whatever you want is legal in a lot of countries, even from supposedly illegal source?? guess we have to educate you all over again.. hehe

        • Ardvaark

          So you shouldn’t have a problem of posting your face and using your real name while you post right?

          That’s kind of ironic from someone whose alias is “no name thanks”.

          I’m sure you stand by your statement that internet should mirror real-life as closely as it can.

        • Asashii

          yes you should have the right to look at nine year old boys forced to take pictures, hey, sicko to each their own!!

        • johnhamelink

          Wow, what a biggot. Just because I respect my own basic right to privacy doesn’t mean I’m interested in nine-year-old children…

        • http://www.facebook.com/enigma69 John Wentworth

          Though the reality is that while VPN’s may get you around problems like this, or log you into corporate networks securely. in the case of connecting to the open internet all they in reality do is move the point at which security matters, your only as safe as where your connection to the open internet terminates. How much can your trust that unknown VPN provider in whatever country you connect to?

        • ScrewEwe2

          In today’s world, VPN’s are a good idea whether you torrent or not.

        • johnhamelink

          Yep, but that’s a situation manufactured by oppressive government.

        • Anon

          I think he means letting people use his VPN subscription.

        • ThatOneGuy

          what VPN do you use?

        • GOD 3.0

          airVPN DO IT NOW

        • FLDA

          Hmm, it would be a bad idea to move there,
          Spaniards just like Spaniards, that’s sadly true,
          if you don’t believe me, just ask to some foreigners
          who went to live there.

          Don’t know how the laws have evolved in Spain,
          the last time I checked, there was no reason
          to use a VPN in that country.

        • baronluigi

          Downloading movies, tv shows and music without buying them is still legal in here. But I do not know for how much long. USA is triying to change our copyright laws no matter how. MPAA´s president came to Spain back in January to have a private meeting with Mariano Rajoy (the dumbass who has been elected as president) whose details have not been revealed to the public yet.

        • Mr_Joseph

          I hope nothing happen in maeeuecos ;( no official stores & no dinero ;(

        • Anonymous Monkey

          if it’s on the DNS level .. It won’t bother me as I use OpenDNS on my router so that everyone that’s on the net won’t use the ISP’s crappy DNS “services”

        • john doe

          There’s no such thing as “no logs”. Please get real. VPNs are not a solution, you are only hiding from the problem, letting it get bigger.

        • Christopher Kidwell

          Yes, john doe, there is such a thing as no logs, shut the fuck up and get educated.

        • http://twitter.com/sheepodoom SheepODoom

          how’s the weather & do I have to learn Spanish to live there?

        • Joe

          Better yet: Get a VPS and run your own seedbox, too. Better for your bandwidth and it doubles as a VPN. ;)

      • Carlton

        Someone, namely a copyright holder, is alleging to your ISP that you
        have been causing damages through their internet service. So your ISP is
        informing you of this accusation, to see what you have
        to say about it.

        Unless your ISP hears back from you, the accusation stands uncontested.
        This forces your ISP to do something about the situation, even if it
        means losing your business. Otherwise, they risk being complicit in your
        alleged wrongdoing.

        However, if you reply to your ISP with a denial of the accusation, your
        ISP does not have to act against you (and probably won’t, if you threaten a suit for damages) until the copyright holder actually
        does their homework and gets a court order. This takes time and money,
        and is legally doubtful, so they are likely to move on to easier
        targets.

        “He who does not deny, admits.” – legal maxim

        • Rekrul

          So all someone has to do is basically tell the copyright holder to fuck off and they’ll leave you alone because you’re too much trouble? Somehow I doubt that will work.

        • Anyone

          that works for regular extortion schemes
          in this case since they don’t have to fear any repercussions whatsoever and the ISPs are footing the bill they will not be as easily dissuaded

        • Carlton

          No, you only talk to your ISP, not the copyright holder.

          Absent a court order, the copyright holder has no right to demand your ISP do anything against you, and you have every right to demand your ISP not do anything against you.

        • airwit

          You use their services. You are wrong.

      • jacksmind

        * proxies,
        * change your nameserver
        * monkeywrench
        * source editing scripts

        I bet there will be a way…
        Heck I get into foreignpolicy magazines website without registreing just by ‘inspecting’ certain elements and just deleting the popups from the source. Of course VPNs will certainly work to avoid being caught.

      • 0×41424344

        It would not be done in DNS, as that would effect “essential services”(whatever that means).

      • WhoCares

        Ergh, OpenDNS

      • austinhamman

        DNS? probably not. DNS is basically just a phone book, if they try changing the DNS it would also interrupt services they are saying they are avoiding interrupting. more likely it snoops traffic and places in a javascript that causes a popup.

        i like their claim that they know it will work because it worked on that thing that no one wants to bypass.

        it might work on HTTPS if they get ahold of the keys and if the key authorities hand over their private keys (doubt they will bother, people on HTTPS will probably just keep getting certificate warnings)
        of course no only is it defeated by adblock, but also by disabling javascript, or possibly running HTTPS, certainly by tunneling or using a VPN, or hell even a greasmonkey script designed to remove the script they add from every page.
        this has zero chance of working.

        of course this could be part of their plan, put forth a terribly designed plan with no chance of success so no one is outraged and then implement a better plan as an improvement to that poor plan.

        clever girl…

      • afndimrdandi

        How does one use DNS to inject pop-ups windows in to someone web browsing experience?!

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          DNS = Domain Name Server.

          See, when you type in a url or follow a link, you immediately go to the domain name server which can resolve which actual adress that link refers to.

          Usually this defaults to your ISP, unless you select otherwise.

          Which means what actually happens is you ask your ISP’s DNS to resolve “www.thepiratebay.whatever” and what happens is your ISP DNS server loads that page and sends it to you – with an extra script in it supplying you with a popup.

          Or if there’s a block in place it resolves to the cheerful page saying “You have tried to access a blocked page” instead.

          In short, the DNS serves as a map agent which points your browser to the real adress of what you were looking for. And this is why a DNS block is the easiest to circumvent – all you have to do is type in the real ip adress of a DNS server which you know doesn’t fake the reply.

        • ReasonedDiscourse

          It won’t require DNS at all. It will short-circuit a DNS query by simply intercepting the request at the ISP end and returning a web page with their content. It’s similar to the way an internet connection works in most hotels. Doesn’t matter what web site you try to get to … the hotel’s infrastructure returns the login page.

      • Scary_Devil_Monastery

        That, i believe, is why there are tools such as namebench.

      • http://techfleece.com/ Richard Gailey

        Change DNS settings

      • Ninja

        OpenDns should solve most problems if it’s indeed at dns level

      • http://twitter.com/Thunderclap Michael™

        and if you know how the internet works, you can bypass that by using the actual octets themselves. or a vpn

      • ktkwon00

        DNS Level? Use 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4

      • Joe

        Incorrect. It will likely be packet injection or the like. You request a series of packets using the HTTP ‘Get’ command over TCP/IP on port 80 outgoing and the incoming reply packets have an ‘extra’ one containing the text needed to run a JS-based popup. This has already been used by advertisers.

    • Who

      it may not. Ive ran in to some pop ups that adblock just didn’t block.

    • http://pogue972.blogspot.com/ pogue972

      Yes, it should be easy to use adblock or some type of Greasemonkey script to block those out of the browser.

    • Adblock the mighty

      Maybe adblock will remove the notification that i have failed to pay my bill too..
      Hell, adblock may remove the checkout from other services too..so i can buy without actualy using my cc.

      Let’s start the cult of ADBLOCK!!!!

      • jacksmind

        Your isp notifies you that you haven’t paid your bill through your browser? If so, then yeah, adblock probably could get rid of that.

        • Adblock the mighty

          sorry to say , but that won’t work
          act. nothing works
          the isp just redirects all the traffic to /paymentoverdue
          you can’t get pass that
          until you confrm the payment you basically have no internet access.

        • jacksmind

          That’s not a popup, that’s a redirect. Everyone here is assuming it will be a popup. As quoted above “not to interfere with any essential services obtained over the Internet.” So if your isp issued a pop-up like the one under discussion (not a redirect), then yes, adblock might be able to block it.

        • IDIOCRACY

          I think they will do a port block of port 80 and 8080 or a redirect on these ports, all ports for VOIP are left open as they say it will not interfere with other services, so also the ports used for email will remain open.

          So filtering and redirecting on port level… funny thing is that probably the Torrents will still run… hehe since you can choose the ports used for these services (like the one for skype).

          Any way it will not take long before a reroute around this “broken link / network error” is done by the internet..hehe

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          Don’t tell bobmail or nonamthanks. They believe ports and domains can be selectively blocked or that “filesharing services” are identified by big signs and distinct lettering.

        • nonamthanks

          Wow, are you an idiot.

        • Christopher Kidwell

          No, the idiot here is you, nonamthanks and you’ve shown it so many times that I’d really like to bitchslap you.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          I’m an idiot because you believe Google can block domains and that you can selectively block filesharing protocols?

          Why don’t we ask the other gentlemen and ladies on this thread what they think about that?

          Or would you like to vanish quietly, come back calling yourself “bobmail” or something similar, and continue those debates “he” kept running from?

    • teenygozer

      Comcast definitely has the tech in place already, they pulled this popup thing when they were trying to get people to buy their shitty software Constant Guard a year ago or so–you’d call, irate, about the constant popup thingies (they didn’t look like a regular popups and said, “COMCAST SERVICE NOTICE, YOU MAY BE BE INFECTED!” with a virus or a bot.) Notice, it said “may be”, not “is”. They’d use your call to very earnestly try to sell you their associated antivirus/firewall service for about a $150 a year. Once I lambasted the poor Comcast wage slave, it ceased to pop up.

      Gist of the conversation: “Are you saying I have a virus or a bot? Because ESET begs to differ as does the “doyouhaveabot” site and the only problem I’m having is YOUR popup!”

      (launches into pitch) “No, no; it’s just that you *might* get a virus or a bot and we have this great software called Constant Guard for only X amount of dollars a month and they you’ll never have to worry again…” He literally admitted the popup was a sales pitch.

      I bet a lot of people fell for this and purchased Constant Guard, assuming Comcast would never steer them wrong. AdBlock did not work, I had it installed at the time.

      • Scary_Devil_Monastery

        That’s because what you need to do there is change your DNS provider. What comcast does can be accomplished in the following ways.

        They have their DNS server serve one out of every X webpages along with a popup page all their own. This is the simple one.

        The other method requires they perform a deep packet inspection and actually inject data into your data stream. This can be performed by a simple script tagging html traffic and injecting an executable script.

        If you change your DNS server and plug ipv6 leaks and the popups stop you know which method they are using.

        Both methods are effectively plugged by changing DNS provider and using en ecnrypted linkup.

        Your ISP is effectively your first router in a link. In order to render your data unreadable to them the same methods which are commonly employed to prevent mitm-attacks must be used.

        In short, if you don’t want the mailman to be able to read your mail, put it in an envelope and seal it.

        That no mailman has any business reading any mail at all – or attaching notes to it – is another issue.

        • Two Bits

          Hmmm.. if they do this by injection, then visit your own website. This is your copyrighted work. You control the right to derivative works. Their injection creates a derivative work. Send them a DMCA notice. Use their own tools against them.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          It might make a good case.

          Problem is you first have to petition a judge for discovery in order to determine that your ISP is, in fact, violating your rights and not just employing redirects.

          At which point the ISP can claim you agreed to the Terms of Service and the matter becomes even more complex as we now have to hash out whether the ISP which most likely hosts your webpage similarly has the rights to handle it in certain circumstances.

          Can it be done? Probably, but you’ll need an eager lawyer and a deliberate setup which also doesn’t expose you yourself to liability. Bearing in mind this is a civil and not a penal case, the reason it might fly can hinge on whether a sympathetic judge feels s/he has time on their hands.

        • teenygozer

          I had to google to figure out what you’re talking about: I assume Comcast assigned me a DNS server when they set up my internet, and that you’re saying I can change it at will (gee, Comcast never told me I could do that!)

          Keep in mind that my effective method of popup removal (back when they were just ads) was to call and yell at a Comcast employee, not to do something clever with the computer. I have a pretty good intermediate level of knowledge for someone my age and I help a lot of friends & relatives who are woefully ignorant of even the most basic computer realities (I recently discovered most people I know do not even know the diff between “a browser” and “the internet”), but DNS server changing/ipv6 leak-plugging might turn out to be out of my skillset.

          I found a how-to for changing DNS servers; it looks complicated and a little tricksy but doable, but I still haven’t figured out what your casually tossed-off line about plugging ipv6 leaks might have meant. I wonder if getting a VPN might not be enough? Anyway, thanks for the helpful reply, even if I didn’t quite understand it.

    • One-Eyed Willie

      It may not but if you have a dynamic ip you can just do /ipconfig release unplug modem then /ipconfig renew That should give you a new ip address if not try it again. It works most of the time for me lol.

      • platyourpus

        If you use JDownloader,and you have a dynamic IP,JDownloader has a button that you click and it will reset your IP automatically.

      • Scary_Devil_Monastery

        And if you’re on a landline and cable, simply tell your router to release and renew.

        Little you can do about your landline lease, but with the wireless plugged into the socket you can do as you like.

  • Concerned Citizen

    I’m so glad Joe Biden and Jesus could come to an agreement to institute Chinese level censorship of the Internet in the name of protecting our liberties.

    • ITakeAPotatoChipAndEatIt

      But isn’t Joe Biden, satan reincarnate?

      • Andyman

        All democrats are, actually.

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          No, that’s the Rethuglicans, who kowtow to their corporate masters on almost everything.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7ZSZE3KQEIRANMXUUP2CVHQJXI TREANJE

          Enough partisanship. Both of these parties are out to destroy freedom. They serve corporations and are the enemies of the people. The Democrats and Republicans are both traitors.

        • Gooby

          Exactly. Everyone is so quick to blame either party for these things but fail to realize the entire system is working against us.

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          No, they aren’t. The Republicans kiss the ass of corporations 99.99 times out of 100. The Democrats do that maybe 1 out of every 10 times.

          Not good, but much less bad than the Democrats.

        • mark

          Democrats kiss the ass of the totalitarian state 100 times out of 100. All Republicans want is economic freedom- which is the only thing that has ever worked.

        • Zorba

          Economic freedom is the exact opposite of communism. No one ever told you extremes were bad ?

        • http://twitter.com/snookasnoo Idon’t Know

          Aahahahahah…what a fool.

        • Devin

          haha, yeah worked to crash the entire economic system once every few decades and polarize money so that the vast majority of the population is poor. but yeah it works great for those 1-5% who benefit from it.

        • iamyep2

          POOR? Gee, I see the POOR here in the US, able to purchase,.. BIG SCREEN TV’s, use a nice CELL PHONE,..BUY VERY HIGH PRICED ATHLETE ENDORSED GYM WEAR,EXPENSIVE Tennis Shoes,..Etc. .Basketball, Football Etc…Most buy better food than I can afford,..most are driving nice cars,..yet most I notice around town,..can not,..or WON’T hold a FULL TIME job, so,..how do you explain that most the so-called poor, here in the US, live much better than the rest the worlds REAL POOR and down trodden? Get Real.

        • duh

          Yea, the bum on the street likes to sit next to his fire barrel and watch “How I Met Your Mother” on his big screen television; wearing new Nike footwear, eating Sushi and drinking expensive wine. Fucking moron. The REAL POOR in the U.S. just so happen to live in a country that is hell bent on excess making resource obtainment for survival more obtainable. Not to mention there happens to be a lot of people willing to help the poor here – both at a government level and a community level. Don’t confuse someone’s irresponsibility and equate it with being poor you fucking douchebag You want to see REAL POOR get your ass to a shelter and serve up some soup.

        • fre1102

          My explanation for that is: you’re psychotic. There are no ‘welfare queens’. Never were. Reagan made them up.

        • Mondo Gecko

          and you are blind pal.

        • pity rules pity

          nooo upvoted by accident

          I think it’s safe to say that very few people do not want freedom.

        • Mondo Gecko

          never had a 6 strikes or infringement notice under bush.. even weed dispensaries were left alone.. until obama came along and lied to his voters and the american people.. all he cares about are his lavish vacations.

        • Chris

          Both parties are way too corporate friendly. If you think it’s just the republicans I urge you to google Biden and Hollywood, or Goldman Sachs and Obama, or BP and Obama. Honestly, if you think democrats or republicans are the answer, you’re asking the wrong question.

        • ItsTheSasquatch

          I’ve got a bridge to sell ya, buddy.

        • http://twitter.com/sheepodoom SheepODoom

          OBAMA SUPPORTS THE RIAA & MPAA… so you was saying?

        • robthom

          “No, they aren’t. The Republicans kiss the ass of corporations 99.99 times out of 100.”

          Sure, if the corporation is oil or military interests

          But if its hollywood or the popular media conglomerats,
          thats EXCLUSIVELY filthy lib territory!

          Hollywood and the media are the ones who put democrats into office and the libs know damn well they’d be shit out of luck if they ever defied them

        • Asashii Fustazii

          The Demo-tards dont have time their to busy with their thumbs up Unions Arses!

        • Mondo Gecko

          then how do you explain this.. seems to me that we have a democrat as a pres and house and senate,, democrats.. dude get over yourself

        • ekderago

          agreed this country is becoming a reversed toltatarinisanm, we U.S citizens have little say in the politics but the companies sure do

        • iamyep2

          SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS AND HIGHLY PLACED POLITICIANS & THEIR WELL MONEYED FRIENDS CERTAINLY DO,..UNDER OBAMA,..AMERICA,.. IS BECOMING AN OLD BOY RUN NATION.

          The People are being,..USED,..held up for more & higher taxes to pay for the far lefts socialist controlling agenda,..THEY WANT MORE POWER,..MORE CONTROL AND A TRUE, ..REGULATION NATION. My opinion.

        • thebudda

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism That is what we are getting to

        • UpurAzaz

          You Are 100% CORRECT SIR

          They hikjacked this country along time ago and we are no longer free, look at the fucking bullshit they have pulled,
          You cant smoke outdoors anymore , you cant drink a soda larger than 24 ounces

          you cant have a Nice Fat greasy hamburger

          If you say something bad about Homos You might get federally prosecuted,

          If you say something bad about Homos while you commit a crime(like smoking outdoors or drinking a soda larger than 24 Ounces) you might get tried twice for the same crime ! One the Initial Crime and the other because it becomes a Federal “Hate Crime”

        • Andyman

          Right because odumbo is getting it all right. Please get your head oitnof your ass or the sand whichever it is.

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          No, he’s not getting it all right. However, he is getting 75% of it right in my opinion.

          Remember, dipwad:

          Ended the war in Iraq.
          Ending the war in Afghanistan.
          Got Osama.
          Fixed the Republicans stock market and housing market crash.

          Need I keep on going?

        • Andyman

          Facts straight? Owebama caused the housing market to crash. Dolt

        • http://twitter.com/sheepodoom SheepODoom

          Cite please… Considering the bubble started leaking in 2006 & Burst on December 30, 2008. Obama was NOT SWORN IN until Jan. 20th 2009 So do tell me how PRESIDENT Obama Caused the Crash in 2006 when he was NOT even President at that time? who was President From Jan 2001 to Jan20 2009? Give ya a clue his father was President.

        • Mondo Gecko

          there was no crash in 2006.. how old are you? 12?

        • Mondo Gecko

          hes just another obamanite troll on the world maggot bus.. sheeple thats what he is sheeple

        • Asashii

          sorry but demo-tards, are the ones who forced banks to give loans to low income idiots that couldnt afford a house in the first place, and Clinton is the one who got rid of the glass-steele act that kept banks from getting to bing to fail, so you were saying!!!!

        • rick1725

          No please stop! You have already made a complete fool of yourself. There is no reason to continue.

          First, Obama’s role in getting Bin Laden was very limited. He basically signed an order and then watched the raid on TV. The intelligence community and the Seal’s deserve the credit for killing Bin Laden. Not Obama! He likely wouldn’t have even signed the order allowing the mission if it wasn’t so close to the election.

          Second, if the war in Iraq in Afghanistan is over what the hell are we doing fighting over there?

          Last, The one thing the Obama Admin has done is made the USA a target to countries that pose a much greater threat than Afghanistan and Iraq. For example, North Korea has been threatening to unleash a nuclear weapon on Washington D.C. and may soon have the ability to do it.

        • Mondo Gecko

          you got that right pal. finally someone who graduated civics class. spot on pal.

        • Mondo Gecko

          need i tell you how much of a liar and a fool you are to believe he did all that.. prove it

        • http://twitter.com/sheepodoom SheepODoom

          DINObama is a Republican in drag… too bad you republicans are too stupid to see that.

        • Zebra52

          Didn’t know that arse kissing Biden was a republican. When did he change parties, troll?

        • iamyep2

          Really? CORPORATE MASTERS? Gee, that description seems to fit Obama best,..THINK ABOUT IT,..that name best fits Obama & his Social-crats, since they conspired together to BAIL out all the BANKS, Car Company’s Etc and ETC.

          Obama has Borrowed,…PRINTED, lowering the value our dollar,..then,..LOANED our money,..to friends & party supporters, and NATIONS WHO LITERALLY HATE THE US and everything we stand for,..THEY NOW OPERATE KINDA LIKE AN “OLD BOY NETWORK” CHICAGO THUG STYLE,..in my humble opinion.

          THE MONEY,..was of course,..tax payers CASH, Taxpayers ARE NOW,..ON THE HOOK TO REPAY ALL THE OBAMA SPENDING AND REDISTRIBUTING EXCESSES,.. YOUR KIDS AND YOUR GRAND-KIDS,..THE COLLEGE GRADS, are who will GET HIT THE HARDEST BY THE OBAMA DEBT BOMB,.. iF THEY CAN FIND JOBS, THAT IS.

          All that new tax increases, bring in money to be used as OBAMA SEE’S FIT,. to continue PUSHING HIS LEFTIST CONTROL & REGULATE AGENDA, … FOR THE MOST PART,..tax payers funds were used in supporting start up GREEN company’s, I suppose ONE COULD CALL IT A coincidence,..Ha, Ha,..that most the GREEN START UP’S were run by friends & supporters,..of the party,..is this another example of OLD BOY Cronyism? + in any case,..thanks to Obama & friends handing out tax payers dollars,.., THESE SO CALLED,..GREEN COMPANY’S,.. Whose ONLY PURPOSE IN LIFE, SEEMED TO BE,.. to start up, operate a few months,..then go file BANKRUPTCY,..as soon as possible,..eventually,. THOSE FRIENDS & PARTY SUPPORTERS walk away with,..$$millions in our tax dollars,..are these,..GET RICH QUICK SCHEMES? You decide.

        • Pop Up Pete

          I don’t give a flying fuck because they’re all as bad as each other. They are two sides of the same coin and they are the problem. Its the ignorant masses that let them get away with making policies for their corporate friends that are the problem.

          Its about time the people woke up to see these cunts for what they really are.

        • Mondo Gecko

          ummmm no republicans are or were in power when this 6 strikes shit popped up… dude get an education. not an edumacation pal.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1338324938 Facebook User

      Joe Biden uses peerblock. I thought everyone did after the first warning?

  • Steve Smith

    adblock, maybe using someone else’s DNS servers as well might get past it.

  • yok2504

    Today popup Tomorrow block and prison. This is the future.

    • Who

      you really believe they will sue 500.000 subscribers and throw them in prison? and that’s just comcast

      • Scary_Devil_Monastery

        Nope. Would they send 500,000 mails threatening extortion in court unless you paid a 100$ here and now, expecting 1% to actually do so?

        That’s a nice roi, you know. What company wouldn’t?

        Ah, an ethical one. Not Comcast then.

    • Who

      do you really believe that they will try and force 500.000 subscribers to pay cash settlements for infringement? and that’s JUST Comcast users. even if they pick all them off one @ a time the ISP will start to loos revenue.

      • http://twitter.com/JoschkaPfuscher Joschka Pfuscher

        You better believe it. Due to a legal loophole something very similar is done en masse in Germany: Basically you get a cease and desist note with a bill attached and a threat of court if you don’t pay. So many clueless people (like parents for their kids) pay that “modest” sum to get it over with. By now lawyers have figured out that they can send those letters pretty much to random people as the question of actual infringement is moot and almost no case ever goes to court. Even if 80% don’t pay the industry makes a nice profit. Effectively this is like paying a fee for an online content service.

  • GUCCI MANE!!!

    GUCCI MANE BURR!!!

  • Duck usa

    DNS change. 8.8.8.8 maybe

  • Who

    WOW I bet they get in to trouble for it to.

  • peter smiling

    Soon to follow malware popups saying the same thing.

    • MadAsASnake

      Yup – absolutley ripe for scamming.

      • jacksmind

        I dont think it’s that different from what any rouge website can do now. You already can put up a popup that does malicious things. The only difference is that now you have a case where an ISP has a popup just like MANY websites. Bet you: This wont make any difference in the number of rogue websites out there.

        • Ed Chavez

          Lol at rouge website… is that your fav color ?

        • jacksmind

          Ed I’m not sure if English is your first language, but I think you’re thinking of roUGe not roGUe. A ‘roGUE’ website is actually a very common term, roUGe is a color

        • NicePeopleDoExist

          Excellent reply. Rather than take the piss you assumed the posters first language wasn’t English and pointed out his mistake in a very informative manner.

      • Guest

        Implying this isn’t a scam to begin with…

  • PirateSoldier

    Another epic FAIL. Keep trying boys. Remember the pirates are always 2 steps ahead

  • Guest

    Extortionists will love this.

  • S2

    Hey, at least they get to decide what “essential services” are, not delete your account AND have unhindered access to their offerings.

    A lot of folks deserve some punishment. And I don’t mean customers.

  • MadAsASnake

    And at no stage is any evidence of infringement ever provided. The ISP’s need to be reminded that both the detection methods and their own IP matching processes have been found severely wanting in the past, and there is no reason to beleove this has improved.

    • Dave

      Exactly. And a nice lawsuit will finally end this madness and would make the cowards at these internet service providers along with the MPAA and the RIAA pay up big time for accusing people with no evidence.

      • sparta

        madness? THIS IS SPARTAAAAA

  • joexxx

    I hear a law suit coming.

    • How high can it go?!?!

      or two..or three…or four or…

  • Utriah

    I like how they say they won’t terminate your count. They’ll just prevent you from using it while billing you for something unusable…LOL

    • joexxx

      Just file a claim with the CC you use to pay for Comcast for the failure of product delivery. They’ll have to deal with the CC company.

      • Anon

        Comcast only accepts payments via check or ACH transfer.

        • joexxx

          Hmm… since when?

  • ANON

    Wonder what they might do since i do not use their DNS servers, i’ll never get the notices. My router has the option to override the DNS servers assigned by DHCP (from the ISP) and set my own, So I used googles open dns. 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      Well, that’s just shifting one information gatherer for another. Though I agree Google is a better choice, I’d use OpenNIC or some other DNS provider with a mission statement of integrity.

  • Who

    TF site must be having issues. sorry for the double posting if they do show up. and some one is impersonating me LOL. I guess some one don’t like the truth to be told.

  • Anonymous

    Time to abandon bittorrent and start downloading from cyberlockers.

    • Who

      FUCK that.

  • GreenPirate

    Time to get the pitchforks and torches. I’ll meet you all at Comcast headquarters.

    Comcast Corporate Office Headquarters

    One Comcast Center

    Philadelphia, PA 19103-2838

    Corporate Phone Number: 1-215-665-1700

    Corporate Fax Number: 1-215-981-7790

    Corporate Email: info@comcast.com

    Corporate Stock Symbol: CMCSA

    • Dave

      Why not have every person who receives these messages send back an E-Mail with the recent study that was done showing people who pirate music and movies are more likely to buy CDs, DVDs, and Blu Rays than people who don’t pirate.

      • fukinternet

        What about it then? Do you think the ISP is willingly submitting to this kind of a technical hustle? No, it’s not. ISPs don’t care what is the impact of piracy on music sales. They just provide you with data connection without any of this fuss, unless they are forced to do so by corrupt politicans. The ISP is not to blame here.

        • Christopher Kidwell

          fukinternet, the ISP’s should tell the politicians where to stick it, challenge these things in court, and threaten to close up shop in this country.

        • ScrewEwe2

          As has been stated by others, many ISP’s are owned by entertainment companies.

        • MadAsASnake

          There is no reason for the ISP’s to go along with this.

      • http://twitter.com/JoschkaPfuscher Joschka Pfuscher

        Naa, not necessary. See, the USA have a free market economy; within a few month those 6 largest providers will be the smallest 6 and more sensible providers will be on the rise because customers will switch providers by the millions. Right? Right.

  • PiracyViaDNS

    Easy. Just switch your DNS to the google DNS. Or, in the unlikely event they decide to block all outgoing DNS requests, install a local client that resolves using a different port.

    There is simply no technical way to “mitigate” this sort of issue short of cutting the connectivity completely. And if you do that, you are basically a parallel, unconstitutional justice system where no proof is needed to assert guilt. Good luck with that.

    • jacksmind

      Umm. It’s a business you signed a contract with, they can do whatever they want, so no, no proof is needed to assert guilt. Moreover, they theoretically could throttle you, cut your service, make you call them, an entire host of things.

      They absolutely, 100% can ‘mitigate’ this ‘issue’, it’s just that they chose to do something that probably has workarounds and, they hope, won’t piss too many people off or lose customers.

      • Guest

        Yeah, that’s why no businesses get sued ever by people they’ve signed a contract with.

        Oh wait…

        • jacksmind

          Wait a sec. Let’s really drill down on this point. Are you saying that you could sue (and win) if you are found in violation of their contract and they were ‘cutting the connectivity completely’ due to said violation? I really want to get to the bottom of this, because if this is possible, this almost completely throws out basically all of contract law.

          First just tell me if this is what you are actually saying.
          Then we can move on to what evidence you have to support your claim.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          Numerous courts have found that for a contract to be overriding consumer protection laws, that contract has to fulfill certain criteria.

          A ToS and a EULA does not suffice.

        • platyourpus

          “for a contract to be overriding consumer protection laws, that contract has to fulfill certain criteria
          A ToS and a EULA does not suffice.”

          In my Country that is the way it works legally.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          In most countries.

          Though be advised, challenging a provider under consumer protection is a civil suit.

          That usually means if a large corporation is involved, you need similar legal muscle to stand a chance.

        • jacksmind

          Ok. Where’s your evidence for this? I mean, we can’t just claim something without backing it up. Do you have any court cases? Do you have any legal precidence? Do you have an law texts? I’m very curious about this. Because here’s a bunch of people who was disconnected:

          http://www.out-law.com/page-854

          Here’s another ISP that will do it, and obviously they aren’t worried in the least about user lawsuits

          http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2009/01/irish-isp-agrees-to-disconnect-repeat-p2p-users/

          Here’s another one, they don’t even care that the DMCA doesn’t say what they think it does, after all, they’re not going to be sued for it, or if they are, the judge will probably throw it out.

          http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100924/14433211160/us-isp-suddenlink-claims-the-dmca-requires-they-disconnect-users.shtml

          here’s another one:
          http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/02/24/2119250/australian-court-gives-green-light-to-disconnect-pirates

          In fact, here’s the comcast T&C:
          http://www.comcast.com/Corporate/Customers/Policies/HighSpeedInternetAUP.html

          “Comcast reserves the right immediately to suspend or terminate your Service account and terminate the Subscriber Agreement if you violate the terms of this Policy or the Subscriber Agreement, or if anyone else you permit to access the Service violates this Policy.”

          And you better believe copyright is in there.

          Now I know you want to say that there are ‘certain criteria’ that these cases all lack that make them liable for lawsuits (that they would lose). And you might be right! But you have to provide evidence for that, you can’t just say anything and expect people to believe it.

        • jacksmind

          Ok. Where’s your evidence for this? I mean, we can’t just claim something without backing it up. Do you have any court cases? Do you have any legal precidence? Do you have an law texts? I’m very curious about this. Because here’s a bunch of people who was disconnected:

          http://www.out-law.com/page-854

          Here’s another ISP that will do it, and obviously they aren’t worried in the least about user lawsuits

          http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2009/01/irish-isp-agrees-to-disconnect-repeat-p2p-users/

          Here’s another one, they don’t even care that the DMCA doesn’t say what they think it does, after all, they’re not going to be sued for it, or if they are, the judge will probably throw it out.

          http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100924/14433211160/us-isp-suddenlink-claims-the-dmca-requires-they-disconnect-users.shtml

          here’s another one:
          http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/02/24/2119250/australian-court-gives-green-light-to-disconnect-pirates

          In fact, here’s the comcast T&C:
          http://www.comcast.com/Corporate/Customers/Policies/HighSpeedInternetAUP.html

          “Comcast reserves the right immediately to suspend or terminate your Service account and terminate the Subscriber Agreement if you violate the terms of this Policy or the Subscriber Agreement, or if anyone else you permit to access the Service violates this Policy.”

          And you better believe copyright is in there.

          Now I know you want to say that there are ‘certain criteria’ that these cases all lack that make them liable for lawsuits (that they would lose), but you have to provide evidence for that, you can’t just say anything and expect people to believe it.

      • Scary_Devil_Monastery

        “Umm. It’s a business you signed a contract with, they can do whatever they want, so no, no proof is needed to assert guilt. “

        I keep having to point this out to people…contracts do not circumvent consumer law unless the contract in question was signed under very stringent criteria. ToS or a EULA have been found not to fulfill those criteria in courts.

        Hence yes, if anyone decides to bait their ISP – or if an innocent person is framed by some neighborhood punk with basic tech skills – there is ample grounds for a lawsuit.

    • nonamthanks

      It is doubtful that this is one strictly on the DNS level, it’s very likely done higher up the food chain, meaning that changing your DNS likely won’t “fix” the problem.

      • Guest

        But using a script to filter out the bullshit injected by Comcast is child’s play. Problem solved.

      • Scary_Devil_Monastery

        Uhh.

        “It is doubtful that this is one strictly on the DNS level…”

        So what you are trying to say is that the ISP’s are violating their customer’s personal communication by using DPI?

        Or are you – as usual in matters technical – assuming malicious fairies are casting spells on the landline on the behest of the *IAA’s?

        Because if the ISP are the ones serving notices, there are quite limited ways in which they can impact your traffic, all of which are covered by well known technology, none of which can act as you envision.

        “…it’s very likely done higher up the food chain…”

        That makes no sense at all. There’s basically DNS and packet routing. You don’t even HAVE a structure you could apply those terms to.

        Might i suggest – once again – that you abstain from offering commentary on HOW technology works when your skills in that area are comparable to the ones who make end users end up as jokes on tech support pages.

  • Ed Chavez

    OPENDNS

  • seyss

    time to change ISP fellas

    • teenygozer

      Alas, they’ve very conveniently carved up the country so most people only have a choice of ONE ISP.

      • http://twitter.com/Jatthewmoly Matt

        I still can’t get Internet at my house I’ve been tethering for a while now. The way the us handles the Internet sucks compared to other countries.

      • joexxx

        I doubt it.

      • ScrewEwe2

        Most people have at least 2 choices for internet in 2013 unless they are way out in the boonies. DSL through a phone company or cable TV internet access.

  • simples

    Resolves the issue with a customer security assurance professional? Really! That would be me canceling my subscription. Case resolved

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      “Resolves the issue with a customer security assurance professional?”

      Reading between the lines I understood that to mean:
      “spending three hours laboriously walking the fresh-faced sprig manning the helpdesk through their own diagnostics procedure up to the blessed point where I could finally sigh in relief and say ‘And now that you’ve…done what you can, according to policy, please connect me with your actual technician’…”

      Because what you’ll get is the guy who’s thankless job it is to assure Comcast’s customers the feeling in their rear is, in fact, Comcast providing a ‘consumer experience’ and not ‘You getting screwed’.

  • bluest_one

    An Important Message From Comcast

    Please visit this site [link] and enter your credit card detils to unlock your internet service.

    Just like the European Police ransomware stuff, the criminals are gonna love this one.

    • Anyone

      criminals paving the way for other criminals

      • TheyWereTheivesToo

        Today’s corporations were last centuries criminals

    • http://twitter.com/JoschkaPfuscher Joschka Pfuscher

      That was my first thought too. This is paving the way for even the stupidest kind of malware and fraud. The whole procedure is so incredibly stupid, words fail me.

  • simples

    Eww more in bed corporate sleaze the world can do without. Goodluck l to y’all

  • jenny

    check out nzbplanet.net if you are still looking for a good nzb site :)

  • Po0p!

    most likely going to use dns. you can try going to use.opendns.com to by pass. i am not sure how else they will implement it

  • RJ230

    I have comcast. I would love for the RIAA to try to sue me! A US Federal judge stated a few years ago. A IP address is NOT tied to a specific person. I’m not scared of the RIAA or US Gov.

  • anonymous

    so, the answer isn’t to ‘educate’ the entertainment industries by strongly suggesting they listen to the needs and wants of customers, then? rather, the answer is to deny people the right to conduct any legitimate business they may have, like paying bills for example? i wonder how Comcast will answer charges when a client loses their house because the only way accepted of paying the mortgage is through internet banking? i dont think the argument of ‘he is accused of internet piracy’ will be accepted. after all, just because a person has stolen a car at some time, doesn’t mean he is then refused the opportunity of buying petrol, does it? could get interesting and you can bet your arse that any shit that hits fan will all miss the entertainment industries. their excuse will be that they didn’t decide the punitive measures that would be taken. usual scenario of loading the gun but no guts to pull the trigger or face the consequences!

    • nonamthanks

      “the answer isn’t to ‘educate’ the entertainment industries by strongly suggesting they listen to the needs and wants of customers, then? ”

      Fail Whale.

      It’s like complaining that a restaurant that costs $20 for a meal won’t sell it to you for $2, even if you complain and bitch and moan.

      If there is so much money to be made making low dollar entertainment, why isn’t anyone doing it? Remarkably, there isn’t any money in it, so few people are there. Yes, there are a few novelty things out there, but there isn’t hundreds of high end movies and thousands upon thousands of hours of broadcast quality TV being turned out for free.

      If you want to “educate” the entertainment industry, show them a better business model that makes sense and boosts their bottom lines. Don’t show them the way to the poor house, they aren’t interested.

      • ScrewEwe2

        And no one is interested in anything you have to say bobmail, or is it pirat2245?

        • nonamthanks

          Neither. It’s your mom. Go to bed.

        • IDIOCRACY

          Well Mom, go back to bed too and don’t take your independ slip off, you might wet your bed. hehe

      • Who

        “It’s like complaining that a restaurant that costs $20 for a meal won’t sell it to you for $2, even if you complain and bitch and moan”

        its also called you don’t give them any business.

        same applies to the MPAA/RIAA/ the others just the same.

        • nonamthanks

          Who, that would be correct if people weren’t tripping over themselves to pirate the stuff. Clearly they want it, they desire it, and under normal circumstances, they would pay for it.

          If people were off consuming some other entertainment product for their $2, you might have a valid argument, but people want the hollywood stuff. Just check out the top 10 downloaded movies. You don’t see too many indie low budget flicks in there.

        • icec0ld

          The Pirate Bay: AFK

          Boom

          Suck it.

      • BuddhaFacePalmed

        “show them a better business model that makes sense and boosts their bottom lines. Don’t show them the way to the poor house, they aren’t interested.”

        Easy, it’s called kickstarter, paypal, flattr, and Bitcoin. Oh, wait… You and the rest of the MAFIAA goons aren’t interested in alternative business models because that means you’ll finally be at the mercy of the market… THE HORROR. DUN. DUN. DUUUUUUUUN….

        • nonamthanks

          No horror. All of them are nice, and still don’t add up to a pimp on the entertainment industry’s butt.

        • Gene Poole

          Totally saw that coming. “Tell me what I should do instead”

          try x, y or z

          “No, those don’t work. what else?”

          It’s so fucking entitled. How about the content industry figures out how to survive and profit, and if they can’t then they’re ignored as being unnecessary in the current age we live in? Problem solved. Adapt or die, motherfuckers.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          The same incessant droning whine from the copyright sect. Blaming everyone else because the market is threatening to do to them what it has done to every other business.

          Other businesses adapt. Entertainment industry feels it’s entitled to never change.

        • platyourpus

          “still don’t add up to a pimp on the entertainment industry’s butt.”

          (A pimp is a male agent for prostitutes who collects part of their earnings. This act is called procuring
          or pandering. The pimp may receive this money in return for advertising
          services, physical protection, or for providing, and possibly
          monopolizing, a location where he or she (i.e. the prostitute) may
          engage clients.)

          That sure does describe how the entertainment industry operates.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          Which means nonamthanks just implied a ‘male agent for prostitutes’ was on the entertainment industry’s butt.

          What I find disturbing is that in that particular case, nonamthanks may be correct. This implies hollywood has a dominating ‘master’.

        • platyourpus

          You may be right,but I believe that the entertainment industry,pimps out their artist’s and sucks the very life blood from them.
          These dishonorable bastards do it for the power and money it brings them.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          Well, let’s face it, they built their business out of con artistry and heavy-handed extortion. Old habits die hard.

      • Typhoid Mary

        And this bothers you because?

      • Guest

        “If you want to “educate” the entertainment industry”

        Fuck educating them. I want the copyright monopoly to die.

        Also, the only business model they want to see is a business model that gives them 100% control over the channels of distribution.

        Show them a model that increases their bottom line but decreases their level of control. They’ll have you escorted out by security.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          The copyright monopoly will die, that’s a given. As will the current industry.

          Rather, facing the writing on the wall they will trim sails and survive, for the most part, though a lot smaller.

          That may in part be to thanks to efforts by pirate politics and awareness, but mainly because human nature and technology leaves no other option on the table.

          Sadly, filesharing can’t put a dent in their profits – if it could, they’d have keeled over long ago.

      • Gene Poole

        “It’s like complaining that a restaurant that costs $20 for a meal won’t sell it to you for $2, even if you complain and bitch and moan.

        It’s nothing like that. But, let’s try to make your analogy more realistic. What it is like is said restaurant paying 2.00 for the ingredients of a meal, putting 18.00 worth of energy/effort into it (calculating the resources used, energy consumed, hourly wage paid), and then charging 50.00 for the meal, and the customer complaining that they’re charging fifty, instead of something a lot closer to twenty, and getting back the response “well, we need to protect our investment! the restaurant cost a lot to build once, why should we sell the food to you at what it cost to make it?! The actual price of that meal is 250,000.00 if you calculate in the building mortgage, my car to drive in to work, my gas, my mortgage, my alimony cheques to my ex-wife, and that lawsuit I’m fighting because all the other restaurants in town and ours are colluding to keep prices high. Why, if we charged you any less we’d go out of business! How’s the cook supposed to get paid?!”

        FTFY.

      • Gene Poole

        If there is so much money to be made making low dollar entertainment, why isn’t anyone doing it?

        Steam.

        HTH HAND FOAD

      • Gene Poole

        If you want to “educate” the entertainment industry, show them a better business model that makes sense and boosts their bottom lines.

        Netflix.

        Or, alternately, it’s not my responsibility to show an entrepreneur how to compete. It’s my responsibility to get the product I want for the lowest possible cost. Shifting the burden onto the public’s shoulders is exactly what we come to expect from the content industry.

      • Scary_Devil_Monastery

        That’s more or less the assumption. There is indeed a lot of money in the market for entertainment.

        But it’s not possible for the existing business model to extract it. Just as it wasn’t possible for coach drivers to tap the transport market successfully once the automobile had been invented.

        Obviously if a business is told it can no longer compete in current form it will exert any possible pressure to retain it’s position.

        Just as the church opposed the printing press, the coach drivers opposed the automobile, and the seamstresses opposed industrialization.

        And that is what renders the current entertainment “industry” giants into dying dinosaurs. At best they delay technological progress by a few years, but frankly speaking, unless they learn to shift bulk for flexibility, they will pass like so many have before them.

      • Pelham123

        OK, you’re starting to grow on me. This is some funny stuff.

        “It’s like complaining that a restaurant that costs $20 for a meal won’t sell it to you for $2″

        As if people didn’t do this every second of their lives and choose accordingly. Complaining about the price is the only reason people don’t eat out every meal, every day.

        The difference is that restaurants don’t put popups on supermarket doors telling you that cooking at home is illegal.

        “there isn’t thousands upon thousands of hours of broadcast quality TV being turned out for free”

        Thanks, dude. I spit coffee all over my keyboard at this one. (Those who don’t get the joke should look up “broadcast”)

  • erasmus654

    This whole thing is idiotic – it’s never good business to treat your customers like criminals (minus that little thing called DUE FUCKING PROCESS)….I doubt these measures will be in place long, as it’s totally against the ISP’s best interests to actually adopt this as any kind of permanent policy – with the exception of certain ISP’s that are also owned by movie, film or software companies: In their case it’s a clear and severe conflict of interests that should be, and eventually WILL BE, ILLEGAL.

    I’m just glad that MY ISP is Charter.

    • Who

      lets just hope the MPAA don’t take control over them to. remember like say 3-5 years ago when Comcast was to buy charter? the FCC never approved it as it proved to be a monopoly.

  • Traveller

    If they put that crap, then leave them and look for another ISP. Especially if you downloaded “legal” stuff (Linux distros and the like).
    Surely, sooner or later someone will find a way to circumvent it.

    “How quickly customers will be able to resolve the matter and what they will have to do remains a mystery”
    Guess MAFIAA will have something to tell about it. And something not good.

  • Ophelia Millais

    TorrentFreak writes:

    Comcast can be asked to hand over IP-addresses of persistent infringers

    The monitoring companies already have the IP addresses of persistent suspected infringers. That’s part of generating a strike notification. The monitoring companies pass the IP and torrent info to the ISP, and then the ISP generates a strike notification and sends it to the subscriber.

    What the copyright owners and monitoring companies don’t have is the subscriber info that only the ISP has: name, address, phone, email. They have to subpoena to get that info, not the IP addresses.

    There’s nothing preventing the monitoring company from also sharing the IP address with the copyright owners at any point in the Six Strikes process, or outside of the process. I mean, think about it… if someone’s sharing leaked, pre-release material, the copyright owners certainly aren’t going to wait around for six strikes to accumulate; they’re going to go after that person ASAP. They’ll subpoena the ISP for the subscriber’s name and contact info, based on the already-known IP address, just like they already do.

    • Gene Poole

      They’ll subpoena the ISP for the subscriber’s name and contact info,
      based on the already-known IP address, just like they already do.

      Luckily, as has already been established multiple times, an IP address does not equal a person.

  • salvagesalvage

    Wow, there’s no way this could go wrong!

  • Seed for Eternity.

    Firefox will have an add-on to stop this, no script may do it I think even better than add block

    • Mozilla DNS?

      Really how do you know this? I’m just interested to know what you know and HOW you know it.

      • http://www.facebook.com/hiteksoul Andrew Thomas

        I do not think he absolutely ment he knew, but implied that their would be a work around. And that a plugin could be a solution from ‘add-on’

    • SCP-914: The Clockworks

      There is one called no redirect for firefox. Might help, too.

  • bno112300

    I doubt it’ll be DNS based. they’ll just send you the wrong packets.

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      That would mean DPI which opens a whole other can of legal worms. Because what that means is that they are not only reading your mail, but analyzing it as well.

  • dondilly

    Anyone else spot the irony in their CAS system blocking web access but leaving bittorrent untouched.

    It will be interesting to see how they implement this but it wont be too long to wait until a class action gets underway.

    • Ophelia Millais

      Comcast TOS requires all disputes be settled through arbitration, on an individual basis. It’s virtually impossible to file a class action against any big service provider or employer nowadays because of these contracts. And good luck filing a class action against the CCI.

      • IDIOCRACY

        Those kind of contracts would be (partial) illegal in EU and therefore not (partially) valid. hehe

  • Techanon

    “Comcast further assures its customers that the browser hijack system has been tested for years, and that it should work smoothly.”

    Searching a bit I found that people didn’t like those “hijack tests” one bit.
    hint: google search the term ‘xfinity hijack’

  • NewClear

    The only way a for-profit company can treat their customers like this and expect to stay in business is if they have an indisputable monopoly.

    • joexxx

      Of course. The reason why US residential broadband is expensive and slow is because of government sanctioned monopolies.

  • sammiguy

    “The pop-up will disappear after the customer “resolves the issue” with a Customer Security Assurance professional.” … yes, hi, close my account please … see how long this last

    • jacksmind

      The problem is that in many places in the states people only have one ISP (or maybe two). I certainly couldn’t cancel in my area since FIOS hasn’t made it here yet.

      • joexxx

        Resolve requires sacrifice.

        • jacksmind

          That’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. So instead of finding a better way to influence the decisions of ISPs we should all just deprive ourselves of internet access, that will show ‘em, and plus, we got some ‘resolve’. ::rolls-eyes::

        • Guest

          What’s a better way of influencing the decisions of an ISP than cancelling your account and/or suing them?

          A strongly worded letter?

          Ahahahahahahahahahaha

        • jacksmind
        • level1mallow

          You’ll have to if you ever hope to force them to change.

          That and you could always use your cell phone as a wireless hotspot as a last resort.

        • jacksmind

          Would you listen to yourself? It’s not as if the only way to affect change is a usually-ineffective boycott of something that we desperately need that doesn’t have an alternative (I can’t get cell coverage inside my apt).

          How about petitions? How about lobbying? How about technical workarounds? How about massive complaints? How about threats? How about civil disobedience? How about pushing the six-strike limits? How about protests?

          ALL would be infinitely more effective than going on an internet-hunger-strike for with no coordination for god-knows-how-long, just because you think that such ‘resolve’ is the only way to effect change. THINK!

        • level1mallow

          I have listened to myself, as well as to other cynical naysayers like yourself who would presume to be omniscient enough to know what would work and what would not. On this topic and many others. You can be just as cynical and presumptive about any of the alternatives you suggest (and I’ve heard people say the exact same things you’re saying when I and others advocated for them, too).

          Just stop. You and others like you do nothing but shut down meaningful debate, you destroy the hopes of those who would otherwise help bring about change. I’ve heard defeatist crap from people like you for too long and I’m sick of it. No one wants to hear your Negative Nancy bullshit.

          Instead of crying and whining “THAT WON’T WORK” and being so arrogant, try taking your hands off the keyboard and actually doing something to help.

        • jacksmind

          ” presume to be omniscient enough to know what would work and what would not.”

          Where did I claim omniscience?

          “You can be just as cynical and presumptive about any of the alternatives you suggest”

          Sure you can. But there are better and worse alternatives. Are you saying that since anyone can be cynical about anything proposed, that they are all equally good and should be immune to criticism?

          “I’ve heard people say the exact same things you’re saying when I and others advocated for them, too”

          So again, you’re saying every plan is EQUALLY good? They are all immune to critique in arguing for the best plan?

          “you destroy the hopes of those who would otherwise help bring about change” No. I prevent a fragmented mix of action where thousands of people deprive themselves of internet for no reason and direct them to better alternatives. This is a good thing, even though you think every suggestion is equally valid and that we should all be doing anything we want.

          ” I’ve heard defeatist crap from people like you for too long and I’m sick of it. No one wants to hear your Negative Nancy bullshit.”

          Whitney Young: “Young blacks shouldn’t be so aggressive, your plan won’t be effective.”
          Black Panthers: “No one wants to hear your Negative Nancy Bullshit, I’m sick of this defeatist crap.”
          level1mallow: “I agree.”
          http://video.pbs.org/video/2312540337/

          “, try taking your hands off the keyboard and actually doing something to help.”

          I am, ever hear of the EFF? In the meantime unorganized, self-deprivation of ones major source of influence for some fuzzy feeling of ‘resolve’ (assuming you have no other ISP alternative)… IS….THE….WRONG….WAY….IS….THE….WRONG….WAY…IS….THE….WRONG….WAY…IS….THE….WRONG….WAY:

          http://reason.com/archives/2012/08/09/5-boycotts-that-lacked-bite

        • level1mallow

          You are acting as if you’re omniscient and that you know absolutely everything about the situation when you don’t, and because you can’t look beyond your presumptions, you can’t see that. You’re pointing your mighty internet finger at this article and the comments in it and declaring “NO! THIS IS STUPID!” without even giving the idea any deep thought or any bit of a chance at all. And you mock and deride the idea and push away any complaint by strawmanning and pushing blame, claiming that anyone who dares challenge you can’t take criticism. That is the mark of an arrogant person, someone who thinks themselves omniscient, and you, sir, are very much so. Maybe instead of whining how anybody who doesn’t allow you to run all over them can’t take criticism, you should learn to take it yourself.

          All of your posts are based on the presumption, for one thing, that as a boycott people would just naturally stop using the internet, period. I already told you from the beginning that you could just use other internet providers, like your cell phone, instead of using Comcast, and I’ll tell you again. NO ONE WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT, STOP ACTING AS IF THEY DO. In fact, in the article you posted, the reason all of the boycotts failed was because people either bought stuff from the business in question or another en masse. Why wouldn’t an anti-Comcast boycott involve people doing the same thing, just switching to other providers, like satellite providers, their phones, or local providers like WOW, et al en masse?

          You’re also assuming that such an effort wouldn’t be organized. I don’t know why you’d think that in our high technological age where it’s nigh impossible to be unorganized, that would happen.

          If you’d argue that a boycott would be hard, you’d be kind of right. You would need large amounts of people to pull it off, and most importantly, alternative internet services so that people won’t be depriving themselves of internet like what you’re strawmanning. And ultimately, even if people do decide to take alternate strategies like whining, complaining, passing out petitions, protesting, all of that will mean nothing to a business unless you make something like a boycott (or more accurately a migration to some other service) happen, because every other tactic implies or involves the threat of a company losing business if they do not comply, and losing business is, in essence, what a boycott is.

          I have been a part of attempts to fight the system most of my life. I’ve done things to help the EFF too. I’ve been in protests, passed around petitions, been a part of communities that would attempt to rally and unite for change online and offline. I know from my own experience that some of the alternatives you posit aren’t effective at all, especially petitions, and I could be just as much of a negative nancy about people advocating putting around petitions for change, too. But I wouldn’t do that, because I understand that doing what you’re doing here — strawmanning what people are advocating for; simplifying, deriding and mocking them; stereotyping anybody who doesn’t agree with you to be impulsive, unthinking, and beneath you…

          IS…THE…WRONG…WAY…IS…THE…WRONG…WAY…IS…THE…WRONG…WAY…

        • jacksmind

          “You are acting as if you’re omniscient and that you know absolutely everything about the situation when you don’t, and because you can’t look beyond your presumptions, you can’t see that.”

          Again, I challange you to show me the evidence where I believe that I’m omniscient. Where is it? Just point to it, that’s all I ask.

          “You’re pointing your mighty internet finger at this article and the comments in it and declaring “NO! THIS IS STUPID!” without even giving the idea any deep thought or any bit of a chance at all.”

          Yes, I’ve thought about it, and it is stupid. Let me ask you something? Can anyone, under any circumstances, EVER, EVER claim that an idea is stupid? EVER?

          ” And you mock and deride the idea and push away any complaint by strawmanning and pushing blame, claiming that anyone who dares challenge you can’t take criticism. ”

          Again: prove it? Prove it? Where did I say that? Show me. Where is it? I don’t see ever claiming that anyone ‘can’t tak ethe criticism’. Please, just show me how you come to this conclusion, because this is just raw belief without any justification whatsoever.

          “That is the mark of an arrogant person, someone who thinks themselves omniscient, and you, sir, are very much so.”

          Maybe, but since I never made the claim, then it doesn’t really apply to me now does it?

          ” Maybe instead of whining how anybody who doesn’t allow you to run all over them can’t take criticism, you should learn to take it yourself.”"

          Again: where did I say this? Please provide justification or else you’re no better than those who claim the earth is flat, and offers no proof.

          “All of your posts are based on the presumption, for one thing, that as a boycott people would just naturally stop using the internet, period.”

          Well, yes, I think I said, that if I have no options then I wouldn’t be able to use the internet.

          “I already told you from the beginning that you could just use other internet providers, like your cell phone, instead of using Comcast, and I’ll tell you again.”

          And I already told you: http://i.imgur.com/zjSd32B.png

          “NO ONE WOULD HAVE TO DO THAT, STOP ACTING AS IF THEY DO.”

          http://i.imgur.com/zzqh5g3.png

          cite: (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2010/03/uk-regulators-officially-mock-us-over-isp-competition/)

          “In fact, in the article you posted, the reason all of the boycotts failed was because people either bought stuff from the business in question or another en masse. Why wouldn’t an anti-Comcast boycott involve people doing the same thing, just switching to other providers, like satellite providers, their phones, or local providers like WOW, et al en masse?”

          because:

          http://i.imgur.com/zzqh5g3.png

          “You’re also assuming that such an effort wouldn’t be organized. I don’t know why you’d think that in our high technological age where it’s nigh impossible to be unorganized, that would happen.”

          Yes, I am assuming that, because THAT’S WHAT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT:

          http://i.imgur.com/szddXvR.png

          “If you’d argue that a boycott would be hard, you’d be kind of right. You would need large amounts of people to pull it off, and most importantly, alternative internet services so that people won’t be depriving themselves of internet like what you’re strawmanning. And ultimately, even if people do decide to take alternate strategies like whining, complaining, passing out petitions, protesting, all of that will mean nothing to a business unless you make something like a boycott (or more accurately a migration to some other service) happen, because every other tactic implies or involves the threat of a company losing business if they do not comply, and losing business is, in essence, what a boycott is.”

          I understand that. But because of this:

          http://i.imgur.com/zzqh5g3.png

          it’s not feasible for most people.

          “I have been a part of attempts to fight the system most of my life. I’ve done things to help the EFF too.”

          Me too, remember this one:

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act

          What a great boycott that was, oh….wait a sec….

          “I’ve been in protests, passed around petitions, been a part of communities that would attempt to rally and unite for change online and offline. I know from my own experience that some of the alternatives you posit aren’t effective at all, especially petitions, and I could be just as much of a negative nancy about people advocating putting around petitions for change, too. ”

          You could, but since my position isn’t ‘Petitions are the best’ it’s ‘boycotting your source of information when you have no alternatives’ then I wouldn’t care if petitions don’t work. All I have to do is argue that boycotts are aren’t the best idea in this case. And I think it’s pretty obvious to everyone but you that this is the case.

          “deriding and mocking them; stereotyping anybody who doesn’t agree with you to be impulsive, unthinking, and beneath you…”

          http://goo.gl/SB5qug

        • level1mallow

          You know what? Since I already know that you’re in internet fight-or-flight mode and that you’re just going to scan my post so that you can tear it apart to try to win an argument, I’ll do you one better. I’ll give you some alternatives that you could work on:

          Raise awareness of alternate ISP choices

          Advocate for more competitors in areas with limited ISP choice
          Help organize, fund and build an alternate ISP

          ANYTHING other than being condescending, inflammatory, and causing the kind of infighting and petty bickering I’ve seen tear apart movements over the years all because you care more about winning an argument on the internet than doing anything practical or worthwhile.

        • jacksmind

          Believe it or not, but I respect your opinion. But you completely misrepresented my position, and you are certainly 100% wrong when it comes to thinking that a boycott is the best way to rebel against internet censorship.

          I think your biggest mistake is assuming that just because I am passionate about the idea that boycott is not the best idea then I must be …how did you put it?

          “deriding and mocking them; stereotyping anybody who doesn’t agree with you to be impulsive, unthinking, and beneath you”

          It’s not really a strawman, because you didn’t really try and attack it. In fact you didn’t even support the argument at all. No offence, but you really should read this:

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity

    • platyourpus

      Agree,if people have the option to change,do so,otherwise deny deny deny.
      I am lucky to have 5 or 6 ISPs available in my city.

  • Good going

    Great I see hackers hijacking the hijack and using it to their advantages by installing spyware or malware good going you are going to see a Hugh load of fake Comcast pop ups show up that will be malware click to close and it installs malware

  • bibbidy

    What about when utorrent forces encryption and denies any datya transfer without encryption?

    • Guest

      Your ip is still in the swarm. That won’t do anything.

    • Ophelia Millais

      …then your connection to MarkMonitor’s fake peer is encrypted. whoopee-ding. :)

  • megachan

    I use mediacom, from 5:00PM up to now I couldn’t access anything except google. Are they involved in six strikes, is this their own way of stopping piracy or did mediacom have a server issue?

  • NotOnYourLife

    Comcast Bot notification gives false positives, I know. Got one saying that I had a bot. Called Comcast and they confirmed it. Except I use only Macs and they said that it was a PC bot. Their tech guy told be I had better be safe and reinstall Windows. (on my mac) NOT. Same system, broken from day one.

  • lmarine

    hell, if that happens to me, i’ll just “borrow” my neighbors’ wifi until the notifications go away.

  • Jay

    IP block and AD block will help

  • Gene Poole

    I wonder whether there’s a way around that. If a user has Firefox and their browser is locked down right, can they avoid receiving anything? What about using Open DNS instead of their default server? There has to be some segment of their customers that changed their DNS server after SOPA, how many of them are also filthy pirates? I can see some users not even knowing that Comcast had something for them.

  • matt6666

    So how long before a virus brings ups a similar pop-up asking for money, before you can continue to access the internet?

    • indian_pirate

      i am working on it…!!!!

    • Kenton

      3…2…1… Oh, there it is!

  • Anonymous

    I hope TF reports on exactly how all each ISP’s methods work. Speculation is fine, but the sooner we know exactly what’s going on, the better.
    For example, if Comcast’s notifications depend on their customers using Comcast’s DNS servers, what happens to all the people using OpenDNS or the like?

  • trollhole

    COMCAST

    COPYRIGHT ALERT: #1

    AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE FROM COMCAST

    Dear Comcast customer, a copyright holder has trolled your internet activity and detected that you were sharing something with others. Your parents and family, teachers and school and religion have taught you wrong. Sharing altruistically is a very bad behavior. And don’t be fooled by the scientific notion that sharing is one of the hallmarks of an intelligent animal species. And the equally blasphemous fact that sharing scientific information has propagated efficiencies globally thereby accelerating human cultural development to our current modern level. Sharing lowers corporate profits because we say so. So, corporations will ever more forbid you from sharing ANYTHING. For example, soon the heretical behavior of car pooling will soon be punishable with a $500 fine and 3 points on your motor vehicle license. Furthermore, children caught sharing athletic equipment such as sharing a football shall be banned from the sports field for one month. All libraries shall be closed and converted into big box stores. Corporations know what is best for them and that is what is best for everyone. Wasn’t it corporations that saved us from the financial meltdown of 2008 and aren’t corporations paying more than their fair share of taxes thereby lowering our national debt. As we all know that saint and angels run our dear corporations and that they always have their profits to protect. After all, copying something is exactly like stealing a product from a store shelf because no one can use something once it has been copied. Its not like corporations are overcharging for everything they produce, especially digital copies. Digital copies cost at most .001 cents and that is a lot of money for a conglomerate to come up with. Capitalists have worked very hard to find a way to reap something for practically nothing with monopolistic protections and they are frankly shocked that consumers have noticed and will not embrace the short end of the stick. We patently deny that altruistic sharing has always been an integral part of human behavior and adventageous to survival. Furthermore, we hope you can help us achieve the corporations’ goal of extinguishing sharing from all of human culture for the first time in history. Most importantly always remember that all innovation not approved of by corporations will be considered unlawful.

    • Who

      WoW. bad thing is that I do remember something in the 90′s regarding carpooling, the oil corps were pushing for a law that would make it illegal. LOL guess that fell thru.

      • ScrewEwe2

        Carpooling sadly, never really caught on.

        • Who

          ya that’s true. only a small hand full actually do it.

        • Boring Phil

          I’m not surprised. I drove my car into a hotel pool and it cost me a small fortune to get it pulled out again.
          And my sandwiches had gone all soggy.

    • Coolprof

      Great satire! World needs more of it to put things in perspective. Don’t stop.

      • Ophelia Millais

        But do put in paragraph breaks :)

    • http://twitter.com/attellian attellian

      Holy shit, you are my favorite person in the world right now.

  • Guest

    “We’re not terminating any Internet accounts. We’re just making your account effectively unusable unless you decide to voluntarily convict yourself.”

    Yeah, that’ll work.

  • http://twitter.com/nossuntlegio Sperare Nos

    Does anyone know if I2P will work in stopping these bastards? and if yes, how to configure BT clients?

    • frozar

      It will but it’s SLOOOOOOW

      • funny

        lmfao!!!

      • random i2p-user

        It became faster after last update.

      • Scary_Devil_Monastery

        That’s not so much the fault of encrypted routing though. But mainly the fault that everyone and their uncle are using ordinary bittorrent client with direct linkups for preference.

        And in a sensible world, that would do nicely.

        When the number of people running I2P-enabled clients are low, the number of clusters and reachable peers will be similarly low. Thus bandwidth becomes an issue.

        Every step the *IAA’s take toward enforcement expands the shift toward an I2P/F2F or onion-routed p2p standard however.

        Ten years ago, people had barely even heard of encryption. That growth and demand in this sector is unheard of in any other save the explosive growth of the market share of Android devices.

        Unhappily, this is driven by not only corporate but government fear of open communication available to the citizenry.

    • ello

      Please avoid using those networks for p2p applications. Although p2p traffic could go through them, they weren’t meant to handle p2p traffic.

  • JerkfaceMcGee

    @a68f4b73c167aa995c64b238de40b1b1:disqus Comcast has said that they will never terminate someone’s account as a
    result. They will, however, attempt to annoy the crap out of you with
    pop-ups that will persist until you talk to tech support about it.

    Sounds like legal malware to me.

  • frozar

    What, no Chris Hansen popping up if you search for “jailbait” on TPB?

  • frozar

    Replace the popup’s image URLs with porn in /etc/hosts

    Another strike, huh? Thanks for the tits!

    • Guest

      Do that then complain to comcast that porn is popping up with the message and you are very ANGRY.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ender-Wiggin/100000885624281 Ender Wiggin

    this is not news comcast has been doing precisely this, on receipt of a dmca notice (not on the 4th one, on every one) for at least 5 years. none of this shit is new.

    • Who

      WoW and no one has reported this crap?

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ender-Wiggin/100000885624281 Ender Wiggin

        hell if i know, but i was playing tech support monkey for cox 5 years ago and they were doing the same shit then. they’d bounce you to a security page and you could go nowhere until they’d read you the riot act about downloading. i know comcast did it because i got two nastygrams myself before i proxied up. i can only assume it was reasonably widespread at that point.

        • ludwig

          -This is true. Approx 2 years ago I got a FLOOD of notices (which I disregarded) and logged in to find a website I could not get around claiming I had to “call”- I called and denied everything, they unlocked my internet and I immediately began searching for a remedy since Comcast is the only provider in my area with high speed – Got a VPN and have never looked back.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ender-Wiggin/100000885624281 Ender Wiggin

          lol, i tried that, but strong vpn terminates your account after a dozen dmca notices. i ended up at btguard, i consider it 7 bucks a month well spent, i can put it on every box in the house, they can all run at the same time, and i’ve never had another issue.

  • Alternate DNS from your ISP
  • Freedom

    Alas! This is all starting to sound like the beginnings of a story akin to a Ray Bradbury (ie. “Fahrenheit 451″) or a George Orwell (ie. “1984″) novel.

    • ItsTheSasquatch

      We’re far, far past the beginning. The general populace is too oblivious (by design) to realize it, but we’re closer to the end–and if you’ve read 1984, you’ll know it isn’t a happy ending.

      • oops

        What nobody realizes is that we’ve been at the end for a really long time.

  • 1337 H@X0R

    http://www.opendns.com nice try comcrap

  • awperk

    does anyone actually use their comcast.net email address? I’ve had comcast for 7 years and never even logged into my comcast email account.

    • Who

      does any one use there ISP’s provided email anymore?

      back when AOL was an ISP and dial-up was popular I did but after broadband came out I stopped after I found out that the ISP’s read each one.

  • LogicalReason

    Who baffles me the most are the majority of these Obama slaves, who claim to be so called “liberals”.. It’s a clear intentional act after you can see Obama encouraging the RIAA and Monsanto lobbyists to run the justice department and the FDA, respectively. They claim these issues are important to them, however they seem to be fine with it as long as it was done with the blessing of the mass child murderer, Or Nobel Prize they call it today. Instead, they are somehow convinced if they focus their efforts of taking away ANOTHER liberty (since we know Obama’s Eric holder said due process is no longer due process); while we prosecute whisteblowers who exposed warcrimes; while torturing continues in Guantanamo The “liberals” claim to be against this.

    • Ophelia Millais

      Well, all that has been proven, as if there was ever any doubt, is that both of the mainstream political parties can be relied upon to uphold the status quo and fairly consistently act on behalf of the entrenched industries (with the odd bone of appeasement thrown now and then). A Republican/non-”liberal” administration would not change that; at most, it would only shift the focus onto other, equally egregious “pro-business” policies.

  • LogicalReason

    Comcast, where is this provision in your contract; you’re arbitrarily granting 3rd party access to send messages to your customer’s without their approval. In fact, I’ll bet you’ll become Adelphia.

    • Who

      the problem is Universal pictures now owns Comcast. even tho they claim Comcast owns them, but I just don’t see how a million dollar corp can buy a billion dollar corp. just like the crap that was said about K-mart buying sears. what a load of BULL that was.

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      They would claim it’s tacitly understood from their ToS.

      ToS however, does not generally abide by contract law. And that means consumer protection may apply.

      The main problem? Lawyers cost money and you can be sure there is no faster way to pick a fight with every lawyer on Comcasts and Universal Pictures employ than to challenge them on this particular ToS.

  • Dave

    Nothing can really come of this for us consumers. But Comcast and these other internet providers, as well as the MPAA, and the RIAA better watch out when someone with money or a good lawyer who will take a case like this for free.

    Because when you accuse someone and you can’t back it up with proof then the lawsuits will fly in and this program will end faster than it started.

    • Who

      that’s just the problem, some one would have to sue them with a dam good layer as the MPAA/RIAA have no intention of taking you to court, they plan on settling out of court in privet.

      • Dave

        Or a damn good lawyer would have to take on a case for free then seek damages later. Frankly you don’t even need that great of a lawyer. The case is simple. They will accuse people of doing these things but they won’t have any real evidence of it.

        • Who

          ya that true

        • TheyWillGetAwayWithIt

          Yes, we all know this but when someone tries to take them on we get to see how deep their pocket are, even though piracy is killing them, and we get to see just how corrupt the system is. Which basically means nobody is prepared to take them on. That’s how they got away with threatening the UK and Swedish Pirate Parties. If anything TPB: AFK showed little more than just a hint of the corruption.

      • The_Strawbear

        Will they sue for the whole hedge or just a few branches?

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          A few branches would be my guess.

          That sets precedent.

      • Guest

        I will _never_ settle out of court in a hedge…

  • FreeMan12o64

    The net has become such a nuisance , malware everywhere, Virus, worms, bugs, expect slimy ooze coming forth below the keyboard any second and I pay my ISP for such a mess after spending so much money on a machine that spies on me, with an operating system I didn’t want. Enough, I’ve had my scientific discoveries stolen by mega corporations, and no way to answer their dates of conception that have changed 4 times. I have a TV, Laptop, Radio, Cell Phone, and am willing to give them all away for free. I will also distribute a major scientific discovery via the net for free to all that can hold onto the discovery patent free, in the public domain. There is more than 1 way to create equality.

    • The_Strawbear

      Is the discovery about wearing tinfoil on your head?

      Nutjob.

  • m33crob

    These alerts are injected into the HTTP-GET packet. If you use a vpn, or only browse https pages, dont use a browser, or etc, you should never see these messages. Keep in mind that they can change the config on your modem to sandbox you in until you accept it (not sure if they implemented that feature or not.)

    Also, most DMCA notices are not valid. I don’t want to go into specifics because I don’t want the watchdogs to catch wind of this; but, if you very closely examine the notices and read the DMCA law (it’s not that long) you’ll find that most of them are not actionable and in-fact, you could sue the agencies for misrepresentation (also outlined in DMCA law).

    • Ophelia Millais

      The DMCA has nothing to do with Copyright Alerts.

    • Who

      “the DMCA law (it’s not that long)” ya you want to know Y, cause its only 1/16th of the rest of the US copyright act. that’s Y I don’t understand Y the MPAA still refer to the DMCA when even on there website they don’t even link to the fucking thing. they link to the US copyright act LOL. I guess its just stupid is as stupid does.

    • nonamthanks

      “most DMCA notices are not valid.”

      you might want to tell a lawyer about it, considering everyone and their dog accepts these things as valid and conforming to law, even the courts.

      • Gene Poole

        Good to know. In other words, Google should have delisted HBO when they requested the link to hbo.com for Game of Thrones be removed via a DMCA request.

      • platyourpus

        “you might want to tell a lawyer about it, considering everyone and their
        dog accepts these things as valid and conforming to law, even the
        courts.”

        HaHaHA,that was my dog laughting,sorry about that,HaHaHa woof,shit! there he goes again.

      • Scary_Devil_Monastery

        As Gene Poole had it. You are telling us when HBO, Microsoft and Warner send takedown notices for their own webpages the proper response made by Google should have been to instantly de-list those websites for a 14-day period every time. No questions asked nor answered.

        That is what you claim.

        Good to hear since these companies send at least half a dozen such takedown notices for their own services each month. Meaning, I suppose, that if, as you say, these notices are valid none of them could have an online presence.

        you may want to be as careful making any statements about what constitutes law and legal status as you should be when making cocksure statements about technology.

      • Pelham123

        “you might want to tell a lawyer about it, considering everyone and their dog accepts these things as valid and conforming to law, even the courts.”

        What is wrong with you? DMCA notices don’t make it to lawyers and the court. Many sites believe it’s prudent to obey takedowns whether they are valid and legal or not – that’s why they’re controversial and the system is abused.

        I’ve asked you many times over the years and will do so again – don’t you know anything about this subject? if you don’t care about the subject, why are you even here?

        How many times do you have to be told that putting up obvious factual inaccuracies on TorrentFreak actually ENCOURAGES piracy by discrediting the opposition?

  • William Stone

    “The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it.”

    – John Gilmore

  • Christopher Kidwell

    And again, if I see this pop up ONE time on my machine…. L A W S U I T!

  • thecrud

    Show up at their office and kill everyone.

    • ScrewEwe2

      I don’t think that will help the file sharing cause too much. Why don’t you give it a try and get back to us and let us know how that’s working out for ya.

    • TakeTheirGunsAway

      Sadly, I could actually see this happening.

    • http://www.facebook.com/forkingham.melle Forkingham Melle

      what about Barry. she works there and does not really agree with them but needs a job. she has had a sex change and is very hairy but not everyone should die? surely you can spare her/him/it, whatever, actually, i don’t really care too much, fuck ‘em all…incidentally,how many floors will you get through before running out of lives/bullets??, take your bets everybody

  • thisguy1337

    I would like to get a notice and then just never agree to whatever it says and just use my VPN to bypass it.

    Seems like I would be exempt from getting a second notice considering I never agreed to my first notice, ha!

  • Loki

    If i ‘could’ (EU) receive one of these warnings, I’d reply:

    A copyright owner NOTICE does not equals a court order from a judge. Starting tomorrow morning, I will end my contract with your ISP and then sue for – insert what you want here -.

    Good riddance.

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  • High40

    A big fuck you to comcast that means if i decide to use your internet again I will certainly have to factor in the cost of a vpn

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gear-Mentation/100003097514663 Gear Mentation

    And this gets through FireFox?

    • http://www.facebook.com/forkingham.melle Forkingham Melle

      don’t know, i though ffox would stop it with the right settings etc, it does stop browser attacks anyway

  • forward12342

    Got 2 of these notice today from comcast…for d/l’ing porn if you can believe it.

    • ello

      Oh damn, since when was porn part of the mpaa agenda? My mind is blown.

    • Guest

      Check to make sure those aren’t two notices for sharing one file.

      And no, porn isn’t supposed to be part of the strike system … so Comcast will be sending out strikes and other notices too? That’s confusing.

      Are they even from Comcast.?

    • Ophelia Millais

      Whoa, a Copyright Alerts notice, for porn? Please elaborate on what exactly you got.

      Did you get the Copyright Alerts pop-up in your browser, as shown in the screenshot above? Was there an email in your comcast.net inbox as well? Does the email refer to Copyright Alerts? Or is it a different kind of copyright infringement notice? Can you take a screenshot of what you got and upload it to an image hosting service so we can see it?

  • ItsTheSasquatch

    Glad I don’t use Comcast. If my ISP jumps on this bandwagon, I’ll have a great deal of fun writing the most elaborate “fuck you” message possible, followed by finding a new ISP. No point telling them they have no legal authority, or making any attempt at reasoning with them–they’ve shown time and time again how futile that is. Laws don’t apply to the people who bought them, after all.

    • ello

      The problem for a lot of us is that we don’t have the luxury of switching ISPs. Our best bet is investing in a VPN that will save us from any possible legal troubles in the long run. There are only a couple of ISPs in my area and they are all on the bandwagon AFAIK.

      • ItsTheSasquatch

        Truth be told, I only have two major options here (thankfully, I’m not in an area where one has a complete monopoly) and the other big one -is- on the bandwagon. I’m unsure about the third, but they’re smaller and thus much easier for the MaFIAA to intimidate. Maybe I’d cuss out/threaten my current ISP once, then get a VPN. I dunno.

  • wargamer1969

    A VPN service gets around it very well. $10 month easy fix. Hidemyass.com comes to mind.

    • Holololol

      they will sell you out to whoever comes knocking. Proven to do so do not use them.

    • ello

      I take it you aren’t so well informed. If you trust torrentfreak’s article writers, you can type VPN into the search box and an article will pop up listing some VPNs.

    • Anyone

      stop recommending that scammy company
      they are proven to sell you out on a whim, they are not reliable in any way

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  • Typhoid Mary
    • ItsTheSasquatch

      Hah, I signed that a few days ago. The Obama administration is completely in hollywood’s pocket, though, so there’s really no point. The best you can hope for is a “Why we can’t comment” response; at worst, you’ll get a vile heap of political spin and blatant lies.

    • ello

      I think those web based petitions are just tools for controlling the masses. It gives them a false sense of hope at making a difference. The real way to go about this is a protest that disrupts normal activity.

  • ello

    So

  • ello

    So what is the deal with torrents that share tv shows recorded from private networks? Are those torrents being targeted?

  • SmootMarx

    “We will never use account termination as a mitigation measure under the CAS. ”

    Yeah, but your clients probably will.

  • Hacker7

    try WOW internet services unlimited download and upload !!

  • cleargreen

    And yet there is no problem interfering with a persons legally licensed copyrighted private property software… in essence ‘hijacking’ it in a pirate-like fashion to righteously pursue unproven claims that have never been anywhere near a courtroom? God bless Amarika!

  • Macca

    This Week, Here In Australia, Local Government Councils, In certain areas, banned Home made Cupcakes, and the sharing thereof, In Pre Schools..

    Admittedly, some children do have bad allergies, to things like peanuts…

    They also a few months back, banned children from doing cartwheels In the playground.

    Basically, all those things us older generation did (I am 50), like eating dirt, and playing In mud puddles, Is no longer tolerated

    Welcome to the world of Big Brother, and the Socialist Nanny State.

    HUGE THANKS, to all the bloody Do Gooders, and Interferers

    The world has gone MAD…

    Today, The POPE, In his last address, stated that he believes God, Is Sleeping!!

    So Do I!!

    Big changes are a coming…..hope you are all ready for teh fight.

    Cheers

    • ITakeAPotatoChipAndEatIt

      “Today, The POPE, In his last address, stated that he believes God, Is Sleeping!!

      So Do I!!”

      +∞ (infinity)

      • ScrewEwe2

        God is Dead.

      • http://www.facebook.com/forkingham.melle Forkingham Melle

        god is a DJ.

    • ScrewEwe2

      I’ll admit to doing cartwheels, but I’ve never eaten dirt, that I’m aware of, although I recall someone telling me to eat shit and die young. He’s dead.

    • Jimbo

      Glad you got that off your chest.

  • ItsTheSasquatch

    “…the ISP acknowledges that copyright holders can then obtain a subpoena to reveal the personal details of the account holder for legal action.”

    You can’t get blood from a stone–but a stone can get blood from you. Don’t ever forget that.

  • http://www.schoolanduniversity.com/ schoolanduniversity.com

    That would probably slow my Verizon payments to dial-up speed.

  • Guest

    We need to start a grassroots campaign similar to the protest against SOPA/PIPA last year to end copyright. Instead of putting a time limit and controls over ideas, lets just end it. No matter what we do the monopolies will find a way to expand their control over content. Why not keep it simple people cannot claim someone else work as their own, anyone may freely use it and remix it. This way people can donate their money to artist if they feel the content has value.

    I don’t have the legal expertise to write a bill, if enough people share and support the idea it would take a year to end copyright. Only if people do something.

    • joexxx

      Grassroots campaign is very simple – don’t do business with them.

  • http://www.facebook.com/forkingham.melle Forkingham Melle

    Browser attack? is it not easy to get around browser attacks?. and are not browser attacks illegal? if not they should be as they are deemed a security issue by Kaspersky. i am sure there is a hole in their thinking anyway, but let us see exactly where this goes before any action

  • boo

    you have guns there in usa. use them at once in good case.

  • Adas

    i’d be protesting out right now if i were in america

    • SueMeSueYou

      It’s 4 AM here.

      • SoFunny

        ROFLMAO

      • http://www.facebook.com/forkingham.melle Forkingham Melle

        yes, but when?,i mean, it’s 13.35 here in UK, but then you posted that earlier, so with the time difference it must be long past 4am now? i really need to pin this down to be sure to be sure, regardless i think we would all be protesting if we could get together en mass. that day is coming. personally i would be outside comcast with my btgnome and vpn using their wifi as a major seeder of all new material, that would sure fuck up their postal warnings system, as they would post millions of letters to theirselves, and choke their own internet.

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  • Gene Poole

    @nonamthanks:disqus

    Just as an example, to illustrate:

    Were I to, using truecrypt, create a hidden partition on my hard drive, with a hidden operating system, I would be required to maintain activity on my “public OS” to avoid suspicion as to the existence of a hidden operating system. Otherwise it would be apparent, after gaining access to my encrypted OS, that it wasn’t being used, and there had to be more information hidden deeper. Enter the rubber hose interrogation, and all my plans would go awry. As such, you have to try to maintain the public facade, whilst utilizing your hidden identity.

    With that in mind, I find it fascinating that nonamthanks came into existence virtually immediately following @bobmail’sl disappearance from the internet. 3 weeks ago, to be clear. Right around the time that you appeared here. What an astounding coincidence.

    It goes to show the quality of troll that we’re dealing with here. Please invest in some persona management software, and for god’s sake, maintain both personas simultaneously! You’re looking bush league here…

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      And if we extend this further we find that bobmail’s spiritual predecessor went away as well – at exactly the same time as “bobmail” popped into existence.

      The answer is obvious. The first church of copyright is churning out brainwashed clones who drone out the same list of nonsense according to what their holy book describes and who are, apparently, unable to learn that reaility works quite differently.

      These lost little sheep of the first church of copyright are then, like early mormon elders, sent out to settle in any place where they can find blasphemers. And to guarantee martyrdom is ensured, they never send more than one such convert to a den of iniquity at the same time.

      Every now and then more than one may indeed surface just to preach some gospel in a single comment thread and then vanish.

      And you know why that is my theory? Because the alternative is to assume that we have one and the same poster changing nicknames in succession who apparently comes back to tote the same argument everyone has disproven ten times before, apparently in the hopes of harvesting more verbal abuse.

      It’s been said that there’s a kink for everything but it would be a strange kink indeed which would compel an individual to voluntarily and interminably seek out self-degradation and public humiliation by pulling off the same slack-jawed yokel routine which had his previous persona laughed straight off the forum ten times before.

  • cronies

    When is cybercrime not cybercrime, when its been blessed by government on behalf of regulators on behalf of big business’

  • cronies

    So they graciously allow us to continue to pay for their services but not use it, thankfully, they’ve probably instituted a way to suspend the payments, for services non provided, seing as they’ve had years to take our rights into account

  • guest

    So they’re taking cues from malware. This can’t possibly end well.

  • JangTrang

    Dude totally seems to know whats up over there.

    GoAnon.da.bz

  • http://twitter.com/NightOwlsGaming NOGCommunity

    Its done and has been done for many years using a method called Deep Packet Inspection. This method is used globally as well. Look it up on Wiki and see for yourself.

  • XTX

    RIP Comcast.

    • http://www.facebook.com/forkingham.melle Forkingham Melle

      why should Comcast REST in peace, it should fuck off in peace, so

      FOIP Comcast

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  • alphamail

    The bigger problem here is the monitoring of what people watch, download, view, pull up or even discuss. This is an invasion of privacy. The fact that these companies have decided to monitor what their customers are doing is disturbing. They are tracking a person’s movements and dealings online, their cell phones, and have decided to invade our homes. As someone said if you get letters then ask them to prove what they are suggesting. I don’t use any of these companies; however, I will write the CEO to express my displeasure and I am now on a crusade to decrease the amount of business they think they have. The fact the MPAA and who ever else have gotten private companies, THAT YOU PAY FOR A SERVICE, to do their private bidding is beyond criminal.

    • Ophelia Millais

      The problem is that BitTorrent (which is what they’re focusing on) wasn’t designed to be private. Peers in a swarm know what content is being shared, they know the IP addresses of the other peers, and they can easily test whether those peers are making pieces available to others (or at least to the fake peer operated by the monitoring service). You can’t expect privacy around those three things, unfortunately.

  • rhodesit

    Looks like i’ll be downloading my movies from starbucks

  • Anson

    The censorship has just begun and if the things continue on their present course, America will be as controlling as England is and may get worse, America is now ranked as 10 in the freedom index but continues to decline.

  • john

    am i missing something here? hijack? this is crazy.if adblock dont block that crap ,change to open dns or google dns.

  • hilarious

    if you go through a vpn that little message comcast wants me to see goes away. hahah comcast you failed

  • http://www.facebook.com/enigma69 John Wentworth

    Ironically this system disables web browsing while still allowing p2p apps to run at full speed showing once again that ISP’s are clueless :)

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  • asobier

    Americans, now you know.
    Years of warnings and pleadings had gone by unheeded.
    You elect corporate cocksucers year after year.
    There is no one, to defend you now.
    ISP that takes your money is telling you what you can or can not do with the connection.
    Welcome to the Corporate Soviet, by now, officially, you’re the Most oppressed people in the World. Shame on you.
    Right to bear arms my ass. How about right to breathe.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=676827475 Luke Solis

    WHA! hold on a sec.

    what happens if the person is using a popup blocker? does that by bass the blocker? What happens if the user thinks that the popup is a scam/ad? what happens if they are not using the DNS of the provider?

    there’s a few questions of what if, and that needs to be addressed…

  • Holololol

    I hear the rumblings of a new darknet coming closer and closer. In addition this crap will just piss someone off out there and they will create the most efficient secure way of sharing in history and the MPAA will shit their collective pants.

    I really feel sorry for the computer illiterate they are going to get speared. Digital natural selection I guess. I frankly prefer file sharing to be a bit more underground myself, like it used to be. Now its a bunch of flashy sites with ads plastered all over them charging money and butchering their own sites whenever they receive a DMCA (frankly I have no idea how this law is able to stretch beyond the US boarder)

    I think we will see an encrypted torrent client before long, Anonomos was nearly completed as an encrypted Tracker/Torrent Client. Something like a second TOR network but for sharing with every single person using it being forced to be an exit node/bridge and be forced to proxy or VPN or it would not work.

  • Buglord

    I wonder how many minutes it takes before the bypass plugin is made and released…. / added to an adblock list if they let that work.

  • tmc8080

    ?
    Can’t you get around this with a proxy?

  • gae

    Um, can’t you just pass that by using a different dns server?

  • Dnyt

    Looked at the Comcast popup I can see a huge risk for internet users. Hackers and bad people will create a fake popup like that to fool people to the virus sites… oh ..noo…. :(

    • joexxx

      Intentionally interfering with a computer system is criminal offense in USA.

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  • JordanKratz

    Monday I spoke to Slime Warner.I told them that if I receive one warning from them I will dump them within 24 hours.Make sure that if you can switch you call up your ISP and tell them the same thing.Make sure these assholes know if you get harassed you will split and quickly never to come back.And also make sure they know how you are “Educating” your friends and fans to what is happening and how they should also do the same and dump the ISP.

    • Dave

      Exactly. Good points. Also let them know of the study that was done last year showing those who pirate movies and music tend to buy CDs, DVDs, and Blu Rays more than those who don’t.

      • JordanKratz

        Thanks ! And yes I could also add in the facts behind the Studies which I have also studied.
        At the moment I am more in Support of just leaving that whole greedy Industry alone and getting the fans/friends of mine Buying and Supporting Local and Indie Art.I Boycott the MAFIAA and I Buy Local and Indie NON-MAFIAA so I tell them to do just what I am doing………..no more and no less.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ric.sansand Ric Sansand

    Well this will only deter anyone for so long. If the copyright holders dont want to make it easy and cheap there will be repercussions. What this WILL generate is hyper-local share nets that will develop via social connections and everyone will just spread content around outside of the public internet.

    Hell, if you can have second hand services like Goozex for games and movies, its just a matter of time until its all a private process and the content providers can basically FRAK themselves, until they learn to compete not BULLY! Punkasses I got 1000 DVD’s that say I can find a thousand friends that want to borrow them and burn them for free!

    • joexxx

      You don’t have to. You can overlay private internet into the public internet.

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  • http://twitter.com/JoschkaPfuscher Joschka Pfuscher

    “We will never use account termination as a mitigation measure under the CAS.”

    Why would they? Soon they will have a lot of customers that pay the full bill for zero service and can use the freed bandwidth to expand. Meanwhile, switching you provider most likely “resets” your strikes. Assuming you have at least 2 providers in your area and enough relatives or roomies, you can keep downloading without limits. In fact, you don’t even need 2 providers, just terminate contract, state that dude1 has moved out and make new contract with name of dude2.

  • hitbox

    Please….. Someone take them to court for Breach of Data Protection, Illegal hacking of a Personal Computer…… Thats contains personal sensitive information…..

  • Bill

    Or you can just Google’s DNS servers 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4…Comcast shouldn’t be able to hijack then. If that fails, using a paid VPN service will certainly bypass the hijack. You can’t outsmart all the internet users all the time.

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  • CloudchaserSakonige

    If I were making copies of DVD’s or CD’s and passing them out for free on the street to anyone who wants to avoid paying for a copy of their own, I would most certainly get in trouble. Why should doing the same thing online be any different?

    /is certainly no saint

    • CloudchaserSakoniage

      Who uses DVDs or CDs these days?

      Most pass around cheap USB sticks sneakernet style.

      And you would get into trouble not because of copyright infringment but percived attempt at panhandling and or loitering.

  • chunjie821

    tinyurl.com/cnaff79

  • I laugh at ISPs

    Adblock and 3rd party DNS. Problem solved.

  • deeplyshrouded

    My first question to my isp would be, is my bill up to date? My next question would be, would you like to retain me as a customer? I don’t care about contracts, EULA’s or whatever. The bottom line is, I pay money for a service and I expect that service to be provided. It comes down to cold hard cash, regardless of the country. Besides, just about everything you want to watch is on youtube or google video these days. Comcast should tell anyone that serves them with such a notice, that harassing, threatening, or otherwise trying to solicit money from their customers cannot and will not be tolerated. That would be like me walking into a store and watching a movie on one of their display TV sets and being forced to pay because I watched something that was copyrighted.
    Ridiculous. The saying money talks is indeed true. Since it was ruled that an IP address cannot be used to positively identify a person, and it would be extremely hard to prove that said customer downloaded copyrighted content without physically examining the customer’s computer system, I doubt the RIAA etc. has enough manpower to examine every single computer system for every notice it sends out. Not that it would happen mind you… Besides, how many places have free wifi now? Starbucks? McDonalds? Barnes & Noble? Any hotel chain? MAC addresses are also easily spoofed so there goes that idea too. Not to mention the many ways that such popups can be blocked. The MPAA and RIAA are not God, and I’d love to see a large cable system like Comcast tell them exactly what I said above. Stay out of our business. Comcast should sue THEM for harrassment. :) As I said, when it comes down to it, money talks, and talks quite loudly.

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  • iseeingi2i

    In other news Ipredator sales mysteriously skyrocket.

  • sudo kun

    just use a strong VPN

    • mbeadle83

      and don’t upload to cyberlockers or even hold an account. the CCI or Dtecnet just hit someone with an invalid DMCA claim for game mods they thought were TV shows. Although they missed identified the files, it shows they are looking at more than just torrents now. And usually you get DMCA requests all the time on cyberlockers through their own process. But now the ISPs are involved. I thought it did not cover cyberlocker sharing. YES IT DOES. It covers cyberlocker UPLOADING

      • Ophelia Millais

        Chill. You’re talking about the TechDirt reader who had his game mods, which were named after commercial software, taken down from MediaFire.

        No one listened in on his uploading. Now, MediaFire does actively scan uploaded content, at least for audio & video, and will disable sharing of any files that are detected as copyrighted, but that’s not what happened here. This content was taken down due to a DMCA notice from DtecNet.

        What happened was that links to the files were published all over the web, and they got picked up by search engines, thus also by DtecNet (MarkMonitor)’s bots that check e.g. Google for the titles of copyrighted content.

        DtecNet apparently assumed this guy’s content was infringing just based on its filename alone, and so sent a takedown notice to MediaFire, who by law (else jeopardizing their safe harbor) had to take down the content and notify the uploader, who now gets to file a counterclaim. Whether it will be successful at getting the content restored, we’ll see…

        MediaFire is a US-based cyberlocker. If he had used a foreign one, it’s much less likely they would honor DMCA takedown requests. It depends on how much they care about being sued in a US court, and maybe also about having payment processing interfered with.

        So if you want to use a cyberlocker to share content that, for whatever reason (even a “suspicious” filename!) might be considered infringing, I recommend you use a non-US-based file hosting service. (In other words, just do that, because all content is at risk of being taken down falsely when it’s hosted in the US.)

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  • RCC

    The MPAA & RIAA now have their own police force….the ISP’s that agreed to take part in the six strikes law. More proof that corporations run the U.S,

    • ItsTheSasquatch

      They’ve had their own police force for a while. Several of them, actually. The FBI and the DHS, most notably. Considering the amount of money they throw at various world governments, they can conceivably order any police force anywhere to do their bidding (i.e., the illegal MegaUpload raid in New Zealand).

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  • Seedboxer

    Dedi Seed Box is working very well for me. It costs $15 per month for a 100GB hard drive. I can paste magnet links or torrents to it and it downloads usually very fast depending on seeders then I download it to my computer with HTTP so it’s not torrent traffic so no notices for me. They let you share the password with your friends too so it’s like a private downloading community.

  • Tommy

    Shouldn’t you need a warrent to do this?

  • FuckYoShitNigga

    spyware…awesome. glad I don’t have Comcast

  • pippica

    F**K U.S.A. DEMON-CRACY!!!

  • anon

    How is this not hacking peoples computers? Id they are interfering with the functionality of software I have installed on my computer, that is in effect a malicious attack on my property.

    • ItsTheSasquatch

      As it turns out, the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, like most laws, only applies to the poor.

  • anon

    How is this not hacking peoples computers? If they are interfering with the functionality of software I have installed on my computer, that is in effect a malicious attack on my property.

  • M

    COMCAST appear to ignore the fact new browsers will be available that they cannot hijack, the tards

  • SCP-914

    Firefox + Noscript + BetterPrivacy+ Masking Agent+ IPFlood + Adblock+ = A possible way to foil their plan.

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  • silvertiger

    So it doesnt matter if your are using their “comcast” modem, ( I thought I had read somewhere that the comcast modems had a “toggle” switch of some sort that was accessing my ISP info, I just thought I could get an outsource modem & the problem could be fixed, but that is not the case; is it? So I would havae to re-route my ISP by means of a VPN, or something……..

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  • http://twitter.com/Thunderclap Michael™

    What amuses me is that Comcast actually thinks that will work. A pop up has to be either an installed program, a BHO, or a push command. All of these can be blocked if you know how your system works. The people who pirate the most know how their system works. All ports off except 80 and a randomized high one for bittorrent. no foreign prgrams running. Process Explorer will tell you what is running in detail. Kill the popup that way.

  • Johndoe

    Don’t seed.

  • john doe

    Next headline: Comcast locks hard drive, Windows operating system if caught downloading pirated material. Comcast will charge triple the monthly rate if it so chooses.

  • Robert

    I’m glad I region block all of the US and all countries with extradition to the US. Just say’n.

  • eli

    comcast will not terminate because they understand that they will be putting a knife to there own throat. reason being because they make more money on internet than cable an it is in there interest to continue providing internet rather than you turn to another provideran thats the truth of the matter.

  • 34535346

    “without interrupting VOIP and [b]other essential services[/b].” such as a VPN which effectively both masks all internet activity and bypasses any hijacks or blocks

  • justageek

    Can’t you block those popups with ghostery or something like this?

  • cevaris

    So, I would stop paying Comcast and move to another isp?

  • battleship

    who the fuck is the president right now you dumb fucking cocksuckers? and who is on his fifth year as president here in united states you dumb fucking cocksucker democrats. and will continue this shit and get even worse and worse on the internet for 4 more years? sit back and watch, your in for a hell of a ride!! you got what you voted for you dumb fuckings idiots that actually cried in 2008 when he was elected. im still in shock over seeing all the people who were crying in happiness and blowing there nose in glee.. now the same dumbfucks are on here in the comments blameing george bush for it.. haha.. you dumb ass cheese dicks..

  • Tubby

    Two words: Onion Browser.

  • ppeps

    okay so do any of you know how to stop them from tracking you?

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  • larry6666

    seems they are all doing something to get u.

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  • Chance Worthington

    …its not just Comcast. They all have to do it now (it officially started last month; was a trial in 2012 And they just don’t tell anyone.) There was a leak and now people are getting the warnings so its getting out.. And 90% is only focusing on BitTorrent. VPN and Proxy are a way around. NOT Seeding doesn’t matter; they are actually watching now with some special software the CR tards came up with.. This isn’t the ISPs call it was pushed on them Via industry through Gov. They had to agree on a system before it would be passed. Comcast and the other ISP wont cut you off perma; only temp and then never again will bother u. After the 4-6 warnings (pending on company) the info is then sent to the related CR corporation for what you DL. The scheme of this all is not the ISP but the CR Dicks are handed over paper work proving your deliberate and repeated offense (after 4-6 times) and can use in court against u. The ISP will then no longer block u. Comcast could care less about it either way; then again most common users don’t Pirate. The site hijack is also temp…
    Obama pushed for that security act a lil while back that was supposed to be a one way…Turns out (of coarse) its both ways. How do you think they finally get to do this legally. This new Gov is all about Loopholes, its how they hijacked us. And if you think its a President (Bush, Obama, etc) your a fool.
    Welcome to the Corporatocracy…

  • Darko

    Yeah, they won’t terminate your account so keep paying those bills. You just will not be able to surf the web. Sounds fair

  • Mondo Gecko

    so basically rackettering is the only way for them to cater to the copyright communists?? and illegal browser hijacking? is browser highjacking illegal and the 35 dollar charge whether innocent or guilty is rackettering.. i remember mobs would say pay your protection fee or else… thats what this sounds like.

  • konnman

    all my trffic goes through a highly discrete VPN service, comcast and there bullshit bullying policy can suck by bits

  • UpurAzaz

    So what happens if we just stop paying cocksuckers like comcast that pull this fucking unamerican bullshit ?

  • UpurAzaz

    They hijacked this country along time ago and we are no longer free, look at the fucking bullshit they have pulled,
    You cant smoke outdoors anymore , you cant drink a soda larger than 24 ounces

    you cant have a Nice Fat greasy hamburger

    If you say something bad about Homos You might get federally prosecuted,

    If you say something bad about Homos while you commit a crime(like smoking outdoors or drinking a soda larger than 24 Ounces) you might get tried twice for the same crime ! One the Initial Crime and the other because it becomes a Federal “Hate Crime”

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