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Copyright Trolls, Not Just for Patents Anymore

Patent trolls sit on patents and do little with them. These trolls only come out of their caves to enter a court room with the aim of cashing in when they consider someone has infringed on their ‘property’. This attitude has now spread to copyright, with artists being sued for infringements on songs that are 20, even 30 years old.

Copyright is often seen as protection for artists and other creative individuals, but more realistically it tends to protect those with the deepest pockets. Even big name artists are now getting hit with copyright violations, and the oft-quoted “what about the artist” mantra is becoming less relevant through the prism of modern day music copyrights. Artists are being sued for using small audio samples in popular works, sometimes even decades after the infringing work was published.

Earlier this year, the Australian rock band Men at Work were ordered to hand over 5% of royalties for their most famous song ‘Down Under’ after a judge ruled that the flute riff in the song was based on 1934 composition ‘Kookaburra’.

Of course, the infringement was so great that no-one noticed until a TV music quiz show brought the idea into peoples heads – 28 years after the song was published. If it really was a large infringement, then it should really have been noticed 28 years and hundreds of thousands of copies earlier – or at the very least when it was performed at the closing ceremony of the Sydney 2000 Olympic Games. But all that time, nobody noticed.

These belated lawsuits are happening more often nowadays, and not just down under. In the US, a company called ‘Drive in Music Company’ (DIM) has been adopting the same sorts of tactics over the last few months. The company sued a slew of people over a Super Bowl advert for Kia, with The Hollywood Reporter listing targets for that one advert alone as “Kia, CBS, the NFL, ad agency David & Goliath, Ninja Tune Records and various other parties”.

While that particular suit was filed in a timely fashion, the same outfit has now started on a case that has a strong resemblance to that built against Men at Work. DIM is now claiming infringement on a song that’s old enough to vote.

Cyprus Hill’s ‘How I Could Just Kill a Man’ was released in 1991 as part of a double single as well as their debut album. As with most of their albums, the band uses samples from a number of songs in their own tracks. One of these samples comes from the song ‘Come on In’ by Music Machine that was released in 1966, and that’s the subject of the lawsuit brought on by Drive in Music Company.

The Alleged Infringers

cypress

All existing copies of Cyprus Hill’s self-titled (double platinum) album will be impounded and sales halted if DIM gets its way, and in addition the company wants damages for the losses they suffered.

The reason for the complaint? According to ContactMusic, DIM bosses were alerted to the alleged sampling after seeing copies of the song for sale on Apple’s iTunes. The case against Cypress Hill is not the only suit they’ve filed; a week earlier they filed against Leaders of the New School and Busta Rhymes over samples on another 1991 album, Future Without a Past.

After almost 20 years the only reason for DIM to want to sue now is because it’s potentially profitable. The longer they waited, the better. The Kookaburra precedent (albeit in Australia) helps make their case.

However, leaving the infringement for so long without action may constitute de-facto acceptance and licensing. Especially as, unlike Kookaburra, Cyprus’ use was obvious (so obvious, it’s been referenced on the album’s wiki page for at least 4 years). That said, it is doubtful that this will matter much in a US court where copyrights are treated with a near holy reverence, and infringement of such is treated as a cardinal sin, racking up penalties equivalent to major crimes.

Unless Cyprus can provide a licensing agreement, DIM may get what they want. When the writers of the US Constitution see how the progress clause has been abused, the least they’re likely to say, is “D’oh!”

“Come on In” by Music Machine (1966)

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  • patentssuck

    wow, what a load of bullshit

  • Mike Cane

    That’s not all the havoc being wrought with our outdated Copyright laws. Parasites are stealing our public domain too:

    Public Domain Parasites #2
    http://mikecanex.wordpress.com/2010/09/05/public-domain-parasites-2/

  • Ricardo

    This can be good… When artists start to be sued and loose more money, probably people will start to think about the way label work. Who knows this can stop all the abuse in trial around the world.

  • Gav

    Sadly this will probably work for the profiterring scum and they won’t rest with that :/

  • nice

    The very definition of copyright troll is Righthaven, a new shakedown company that sues random websites that might have quoted a bunch of old newspaper articles.

    http://righthavenvictims.blogspot.com/

    These people need to die.

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  • jovialau

    Copyright laws worldwide must be bought into line with those of patents.Specifically,a period of time for the inventor or creator,lets say five years,should be alloted in order for the aforesaid to persue a profit for the idea or creation.If it is not persued within the alloted time then it should revert to what it was prior…A mere thought.This notion that an individual should have ongoing rights and or their families ad infinitum,has no real relevance.All it does is crush any future productivity,especially in entertainment fields.But it covers pretty much everything.What happens when every note, and or combination of notes or words is copyrighted.When every story has been told?If this madness is not stopped,it will lead,at the very least to revolution and anarchy!And so it should!

  • anonymous

    glad this is happening. perhaps the artists themselves will see what has been going on for a while now. as they are the ones being sued, instead of the general public, getting a taste of their own medicine, could be a good thing. making them realise that, even though they may well not have gained anything from the legal battles over people file sharing up till now, those payments going straight to the big companies, paying a lot out for what amounts to a very small ‘crime’ is unfair and hurts!

  • tdn

    Of course, they would then be sued for saying “D’oh”, right?

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  • abc

    lol People are such pathetic creatures. Biting the hand that feeds you ergo companies bite the very people that are the source of their well-being – the artists. The music industry will someday destroy the music as a commercial thing.

  • Anonymous

    alright. . . . its time to reload those Low Orbit Ion Cannons. . . . . DIM . . . .YOUR NEXT

  • joe

    copyright = fail

  • GrX

    now the big dogs are turning on themselves this was what i was waiting to happen

    soon in a few years time it won’t be the general public they are fighting against it will be them against themselves.

  • Clark

    The single biggest copyright troll on the planet is a fat bastard named George Riddick.

    Just google “George Riddick” & see what comes up.

    Just read a few of the posts here:
    http://www.extortionletterinfo.com/forum/list.php?3

    or click through some of the google search results.

  • hmm

    they got make money some how in a recession what a joke

  • omfg

    so they sue each other now ? let them i say

  • lorro

    Does this mean that a busker on the street singing a song will have to pay out 5% of the money he makes singing his songs on the streets?

  • Dia

    “D’oh” would infringe on Fox’s copyright…

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  • MeepMeep

    Those stupid Americans again.

  • ndmushroom

    Are we refering to Cypress hill’s song or is this a new group, named after a hill full of Cypriots? It’s irrelevant, i know, but someone might as well correct the group’s name…

  • TerribleTony

    The feeding frenzy is well afoot now, they realise that this is probably one of their last chances at some free money, so they are going for it with gusto.

    The courts and peoples will only put up with all this for so long, and soon it will be no more.

    Keep digging your graves (and lining them with gold).

  • fredBG

    thank heavens its cypress and not cyprus, reload the Cannons!!!!

  • YarickZan

    Gee can’t say I didn’t see this one coming. There is money to be made and now everyone and their mother will be filing these lawsuits. I wonder if the big labels saw this coming when they started trying to pursue sharers. It’s funny how an industry so ready to take people to court and make examples of people is so ready to infringe the rights of other people.

  • Yogi

    Sooner or later even Congress will have to admit that the copyright farce has to end. Such law suits hasten the day.

  • omg

    whats next ? they gonna start to sue the architect that may have took a piece of work from a other to build a stronger building…. oh wait why not sue the archeologist for making copy of old stuff to show in museum ….

    stupid society …

  • BIOS HazarD

    Something about money and greed…

  • Whatever

    Everything is based on something in the past. Ranging from ideas and samples in earlier songs to the music teacher (or book) that learned the artists how to play/sing the right notes (all use a structure not to make it random sound so its the first thing copied).

    (Generalized) Artists wanted this so they now got what they asked for (they DO have a choice) and have the backlash of it right back at them now.

    And as if lawyers weren’t already parasites they seem to find ever more ways to extort money which has nothing todo with the job a lawyer is meant todo(wonder how many billions of damage this whole parasitical sueing business is putting on society, the enviroment and production).

    @TF
    Don’t get the chronology in the beginning. (1934, 28 years after, played in 2000… 1934+28=1962?)

    [TF: 1934 was when Kookaburra was written. The song 'Down Under' was published in 1981, which was 28 (and change) years ago. As a side note, Marion Sinclair, who wrote Kookaburra, died in 1988, and so the copyright expires on Jan 1 2058 (life+70). Hope this helps, Ben]

  • me

    Personally, I’d rather draw a sharp line between file sharers who have no monetary gain by infringing copyright on one side, and cover bands that make money out of it, on the other side.

    I dislike Copyright, and especially the abomination it has become after centuries of intense lobbying, just like everybody else, but my sense of ethic tells me that there is still a difference between file sharers and cover bands.

    Now, the real issue here at hand is that Copyright has insanely long protection terms. WTF? 5 years counting from publication is okay, 10 years, maybe. But more? C’mon! Even the US Copyright was 17 years at first, since creation. NOW, it is worldwide 70 years AFTER the death of the artists, and Mickey-Mouse-USA grants its megacorps even 95 years, edging towards perpetual copyright. This is what utterly delegitimized Copyright.

  • OhhNoo!

    Cyprus Hill?

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  • Insanity

    Sue them, sue them all!
    Sue every artist, sue every child, every rival competitor. Sue, sue, sue!!!

    If this shitty system fucks up enough, people will finally realise and come to their sences …

  • The United Hackers Association

    the affect will be fewer artists will want to create anything and thus the industry will start its real decline…

    they have locked it up for 150years in the usa

    50 years n canada
    more or less in other places.

    Countries with a greater public domain will begin to see the benefits
    as the top down affect in the music industry wont affect them.

    THAT’S right all this does is take all the middle income and low income peoples cash and keeps it in hands of people that already have too much, and there is a threshold where other industries start to feel a pinch cause to simply enjoy life is becoming far to expensive then other industries vying for a buck there die….

  • DJDANK

    Maybe I’m retarded, but after listening to both the Music Machine song “Come On In” and Cypress Hill’s “How I Could Just Kill A Man” I can’t seem to find the part that Cypress hill sampled, none of either of those songs have parts that sound identical…..maybe there’s just so much going on in the cypress hill song that I can’t tune-out all the other stuff to hear the sample…..if anybody else knows where the infringing sample is please post back with the time for each song…..would like to hear it….lol

  • Suck My Nuke

    @18 MeepMeep aka Dikforbrains

    Your a fuking idiot….because this article has NOTHING to do with “americans” as a whole ……you just wish you could come over here and have an anchor baby….USA is the best beeeaaaatch!

    If it wasn’t for “stupid americans” you wouldn’t have a place to be posting your duchebaggery comments, hence torrentfreak is from the US arsehole!

  • Ralonto

    Up against the wall with people like this… Scum of the earth.

    Remember folks, this influences artists, not just record labels.

  • British tangent.

    Money,money,that all its about.The western world has turned into a big greedy,selfish,crap hole of a place.
    I can imagine people getting sued for whistling a tune that someone else wrote next.

  • Anonymous

    @lorro: well, they sued a woman for singing in her own shop and asked for copyright royalties, so I’ll take a “wild” guess and answer “Yup” to your question xD

  • random pirate

    @31 relax. americans are not gods. and the WWW was developped in cern, EUROPE, not america. so if it wasnt for usa we would still have the internet.
    kkthxbye

  • biggmatt

    Actually this is a good thing. It will cause the big music labels and copyright trolls on each other. Then maybe we will get reform of copyright laws

  • Roger

    Bullshit! I’ve been a great fan of Cypress Hill for many years from the start.

    Can you recognise any fucking part of the old song?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vzIljbwbuw&feature=fvst

    Greedy fucking DIM – devil whores
    Time for some action.

  • anons

    “Cyprus Hill?”

    It should be

    Cypress Hill

  • whipped

    It’s not surprising to see the lot turn on each other.
    Even the managers turning on the artists. For example, the rock group “Badfinger”.
    They just need to change and quit hurting their customers and artists.

    There has to be a better way.

  • ddd

    They go fuck themselves. Interesting…

  • horsemeat

    I don’t see the problem here.

    I think before you use someone else’s stuff you should at the very least ask their permission.

    But that being said, there should not be any backdating, only for stuff sold that year and it should be up to the artist(s) not the record labels.

    But I also think things should be public domain much sooner than they are.

  • xxploit

    fun stuff, calling them idiots would be an insult to real idiots

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  • Anonymous

    all indie bands should do some cover music and add the refrain Fuck you to whatever it is.you can’t get water from a stone you know

    more bs news aboput greedy assholes

  • cypress hill

    @31

    the sample is keyboard part at the opening of the music machine song.

    it appears in the cypress hill song around 2:42 during the little breakdown section. it is slowed down which as a result makes the pitch a little lower.

    all in all, it makes up around 8 seconds of the song. definitely worth a large settlement if you ask me…

  • Wilson Andrew Bolton

    I’m almost ashamed to call myself human.

  • elduka

    they truely are the privateers to are pirateing

  • Doink

    fvckin lowlife vultures. thats all i gotta say.

  • Jean Chicoine

    Sue, sue, sue! Keep on suing, you bastards! Sue the mothers, the fathers, the sons and the daughters. Sue the neighbours, the strangers, the immigrants. Sue everybody for everything that’s being used everywhere. Sue Mother Nature for using her own patterns to create new life forms. Sue the whole Universe for using the Big Bang paradigm all over space and time. And once you’re done suing the whole of creation, DIE!
    And then, maybe, after you’ve wrecked eveything, we can build a more decent society where artists are more important than lawyers.

  • Ninja

    Ah when they turn against each other. It’s just sweet this is happening. It’ll lead to copyright revision to say the least.

    We hit two points here: 1- human greed know no limits (I’m not generalizing) and 2- copyright does not protect anything, it just harms creativity and ruin innocent ppl.

    First point has no real solution. Second is already being hit mercilessly. Keep sharing ppl =))

  • dan

    I can’t stand copyright, if you make music, whats wrong with sampling something from one of another artists tracks. Musics its meant to be shared.

    We live in a world where certain sounds and note patterns can be owned by someone…

  • Anonymous

    I hereby notify the world I am copyrighting the english alphabet, THE WHOLE THING!

    If anyone from this day forward uses any of the following letters A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,M,N,O,P,Q,R,S,T,U,V,W,X,Y,Z YOU WILL HAVE TO SEEK MY PERMISSION OR FACE A HUGE SETTLEMENT ORDER! ROFLMAO.

    I will however concede all other symbols & numbers to be open source & able to be used freely without permission.

    Other languages currently have copyrights pending so be aware!

    Give it 5 years & someone will try it!

  • Been Here Before

    My understanding, perhaps flawed, is that these laws were intended to reduce the incentive for the major record companies to rush to market with cover versions of songs that were current or recent regional hits on smaller labels. Once the big-name artist on the major label recorded the song, the original version was dead in the water; the smaller labels & artists couldn’t compete until the larger labels were forced to start licensing songs instead of stealing them.

    Now, though, it’s about pure greed and entitlement. Everyone who owns the rights to something that gets sampled thinks they’re entitled to a piece of the action, as if the nonexistent sales of the old song are being undermined by the sample-containing song, which is so not happening.

    This is yet another reason for us all to be entirely dismissive of the music industry’s shenanigans. Die, music industry, die. If you want to get paid, MAKE MUSIC THAT PEOPLE WANT TO BUY, and market it effectively. There are labels, big and small, doing just fine right now without relying on litigation. Learn something from them.

  • FuzzyX

    This is one reason why copyright should be limited to 5 and 10 years.

    I find it funny that some want 100 years. There is a saying in the business that nothing is new and you can always find the idea elsewhere.

    Now artists risk being sued for sections of their songs, tv series or movies.

    Worse yet artists have to corrupt their creations if any aspect seems doubtful.

    Then worst of all you can include an idea you heard years ago but only now recall on a sub-conscious level while your conscious self believes it to be your own creation.

    Copyright is anti-human, harms creation and opens all to being sued.

    Copyright lasting 5/10 years and then becoming public property makes a lot of sense.

  • Anonymous

    “Piracy is theft, clean and simple,” Vice President Joe Biden said

    No its not you idoit, go solve some real problems like catching phedos (real ones).

  • Turbis

    Haha I find it rather funny so many artists are like “Piracy is not cool” and then you look at how many artists there are who have used copyrighted materials in their own songs.

  • ALIS

    This is just insane, there aren’t any songs in the world that dont have even a little bit of some other songs riff’s. They should just start a lawsuit “everyone vs everyone” and fight it out in the corrupt american court rooms. Everyone whos ever made any konda song should go and sue RIAA for funding other artists that make songs tha might have a few seconds of other peoples riffs.

  • zenithmaster

    This is no way a new thing. It has been going for at least 30 years (that is how far back I can remember, but there are probably earlier cases). NOT NEWS.

  • super cool

    ,greedy bastards. almost all songs i know have some resemblnce to some other songs, and there is also a thing called musical influence,which i is copying some other artists style,. i think it would be difficult to come up with a song thats totally unique and different to others, and if you ever you able to do that it probably would suck. hope this will make artist think about record compnies role in the music industry, they should remove be in the ‘equation’ already.

  • jon7272

    wheres our friend neo is he dead we can only hope lol

  • anon

    F**K this , I am gonna copywrite the words And , Am , This, That, You, We, Them , and a whole other slue of 3 letter words , that way I can sue any one on this planet 25,000 dollars for any time the words are used without authorization.

  • Whatever

    Funny how the MAFIAA are now killing their own recycling business. Madonna took a relative big part from Abba and used it as a new song and nobody noticed (the one with the clock ticking at the start) ?

    Doesn’t matter if for using a past song was paid for or not, they didn’t create it on their own. So the work they put in it (or their writers) is much less than the MAFIAA wants to make you believe.

    While there are scientists that changed the world (some) artists get the millions for much lower impact. In the past it might have been arguable that it compensates for lack of privacy. However now nobody has privacy anymore and anyone might be found on youtube. Being in the picture is not a valid reason anymore so it should now be work to get income.

    Anyway, this may be an oppertunity to destroy Imaginary Property. If someone start to make a list where all songs using past songs are, it will atract lawyer parasites like flies.

    @TF (Ben), Thanks.. yes,it helps a lot. The fact that the composer is dead would have been a good point to mention in the article itself.

  • PC

    This is sad.

  • ike

    cyprus hill? this is embarrassing. ffs fix that

  • Been Here Before

    Yes, correct the spelling of Cypress Hill in the article, please!

  • Cujo

    now I’m worried about getting sued for singing along LMAO

  • AnarchyNow

    No big news, lol!
    In France, we had a guy who made a short movie, an “art & essai”, indie b&w short movie… In it there’s an actor who’s whistling the International for something like 5 seconds, and it seems that the International (a communist anthem) is still under copyright and the copyright holders (who have absolutely nothing to do with the guys who wrote the song) asked for a thousand €!!!
    The funniest is that a mainstream movie features that scene of the short movie in a scene with a TV playing it…

    Most of today music relies on the music of the past, if we let them have their way, those morons will only prevent the survival of humanity.

    Property is theft, intellectual property is genocide.

  • Anonymous

    when you really look into this, Copyright as a whole is absolute bullshit, there is no such thing as intelectual property.

    when will the law finally be changed? when someone gets sued for saying a line from a famous tv show?

  • JaneDoe3000

    Colin Hay of Men at Work got screwed over hard. Hay wrote “Down Under” without the offending flute riff; it was only added when new band member, Greg Ham, played it. Even Greg Ham had no idea of the song that was supposedly copied.
    If the flute riff copies anything, it is the song of the kookaburra bird in Australia, whose trilling is almost identical. It is the sound of nature.

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  • StevO

    quenn sued vanilla ice over a bass riff. ice ice baby from under pressure. yeah I can see riff starting to be sued. How many songs use the identical chords? its insane. Its like Tide suing over another manufacturer using a box to sell detergent in.

  • StevO

    and actually it was a 2 note riff. yeah they sound alike but its 2 notes on a bass guitar. Pff.

  • Anonamoose

    A simple change of law needs to be made.

    You shouldn’t be able to buy the rights to something, it’s obviously not how the law is supposed to work.

    As for the infringment in the Men at Work song, it’s utter bullshit.

    Firstly it’s a very tiny part of the song, secondly as far as anyone was aware the tune was owned by a girl guides.

    Lets say that the infringing part is 5% of the song, surely you should only get 5% of that 5%….well you should get thrown in prison for wasting the courts time, but that’s another story.

  • Anonamoose

    @StevO

    …but Queen were right to sue Vanilla Ice.

    Firstly he was shit, that alone is a good enough reason.

    Secondly, pretty much the only thing people remeber about his “song” was that it used the Queeen riff.

  • hmm

    maybe i just don’t care

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