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Database Of U.S. Internet Pirates Will Be Decentralized

Starting in a few months, millions of online ‘pirates’ will be monitored as part of an agreement between the MPAA, RIAA and all major U.S. Internet providers. Alleged infringers will be notified about their misbehavior, and repeat offenders will eventually be punished. Thus far the details on the operation have been very slim, but TorrentFreak has learned that unlike in France, the U.S. database of Internet pirates will be decentralized.

In June the MPAA and RIAA announced a ‘ground-breaking’ deal with all the major Internet providers in the United States. In an attempt to deter online piracy, a third-party company will monitor BitTorrent and other public file-sharing networks and collect the IP-addresses of alleged infringers.

The ISPs will then notify these offenders and tell them that their behavior is unacceptable. After six warnings the ISP may then take a variety of repressive measures, which include slowing down the offender’s connection.

This new system is a formalized version of the existing takedown system that’s already in use by copyright holders. It was announced under the name ‘Copyright Alerts‘ and will be managed by the Center for Copyright Information, but little is known about how the data on alleged infringers is collected and stored.

Previously we tried to get more background info, but to no avail. However, via a detour we got in touch with a spokesman for the Center for Copyright Information (CCI) who kindly provided us with some additional information.

We wanted to know what will happen with the IP-addresses that are collected, for how long will they be stored, and will there be a central organization that’s responsible for this process like there is in France. The CCI spokesperson informed us that the data will be exclusively kept by the ISPs.

“ISPs will hold this information, as they do today. Please also note that no personal information about subscribers will be shared with rights holders without the required legal process being completed,” he told us.

There’s no agreement on how long the data will be stored, but a minimum of 12 months is required.

“ISPs will determine this individually based on their own policy. However, please note that the Memorandum of Understanding allows for a 12 month reset period. That means that, if an ISP does not receive any ISP notices from rights holders concerning a subscriber’s account for a 12 month period, all prior ISP notices and copyright alerts from the subscriber’s account may be expunged.”

Aside from the data storage issue we also asked if the company that will track millions of copyright infringers will have its evidence gathering techniques properly tested. This is indeed the case.

“There will be an independent technical review. The agreement requires that an independent technical expert review methodologies used by content owners to detect alleged content theft and by ISPs to identify and forward alerts to applicable subscribers,” TorrentFreak was told.

The independent technical expert has not yet been selected according to the spokesperson. However, it seems unlikely that the results of the evidence review will be made public, which is a major disappointment.

“The results of the reviews will necessarily vary company by company, and industry by industry. As such, they will contain proprietary information and will not be made public,” we were told.

Previously two independent sources informed us that DtecNet was already picked as the official tracking company, but the CCI spokesman said that no official contract has been signed yet. More information on this, as well as the start date of the new system, is likely to be released in the near future.

In the coming months we’ll continue to keep a close eye on developments, because if rightsholders want to track millions of copyright infringers, they better do it right.

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  • Jeff Bekcer

    How entirely ironic.

    • Anonymous

      Ironic? I’d call it tragic.

      And just more evidence of how fucked up the US is. Being broke and being in debt to the rest of the world doesn’t seem enough for the Americans.

      Now they want to strangle the life out of their patch of interwebs, just so a bunch of old white men in suits can maintain a monopoly.

      The US will collapse under its own shit pretty soon, but who knows, maybe California, New York and Texas will make cool new additions to the UN.

      • Anonymous

        Nah, not Texas. We’ll just go back to being our own Republic.

        • Shaizan

          If god doesnt smite it first. Burn baby burn!

        • Anonymous

          @ Shaizan

          If I believed in any type of “God” character, maybe I’d be worried. But I don’t, so I’m not.

          Also, I’m a pyromaniac. So meh. [shrugs] I got no problems if we did burn. Heck, I’d probably sit and watch, beyond f*cking fascinated. Like Sublime said, “Eureka, California let it burn let it burn. etc etc etc”

        • entropy13

          “We’ll just go back to being our own Republic. ” That doesn’t automatically mean you’re not joining the UN, does it? Although admittedly there are new countries that aren’t members of the UN yet like South Sudan.

        • Jnjn

          that didn’t work you dumb f***

        • Anonymous

          @ Jnjn

          Hey, I didn’t say it did you f*cking b*tch. I just said we’d go back to being our own Republic. It was said somewhat in gest. Or are you too f*cking stupid to get that I’m joking? Geez. The stupidity of some people on this site astounds me. I thought it was limited to the troll types only, guess not though.

        • Anonymous

          @ Jnjn

          Hey, I didn’t say it did you f*cking b*tch. I just said we’d go back to being our own Republic. It was said somewhat in gest. Or are you too f*cking stupid to get that I’m joking? Geez. The stupidity of some people on this site astounds me. I thought it was limited to the troll types only, guess not though.

        • Kimreck

          no,,, you will be mexico… LOL

        • Kimreck

          no,,, you will be mexico… LOL

      • Riptic69

        Why did you group texas with those progressive states?

      • Bennyboytx

        this isn’t meant to collect money for CEO’s…. it’s a way to stop people like you from pirating to your hearts content every waking hour of the day. Your predictions are tragically wrong if you ask me.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sam-Hassock/100001390055136 Sam Hassock

          What do you have against my heart? And it’s content.

        • Anonymous

          no yuo

        • http://myworld.ebay.com/seacoasttrader LukeScooto

          Speaking of which anyone have Contagion yet? It looks awesome!

        • http://myworld.ebay.com/seacoasttrader LukeScooto

          Speaking of which anyone have Contagion yet? It looks awesome!

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_HHOAP7RJJPV6EPZYEFLJLP6CIA MikeH

        Great post until it descended into racism. Go f- yourself.

        • http://myworld.ebay.com/seacoasttrader LukeScooto

          O jesus, now the copyright cops are racist too? Why, cause they didnt vote for Obama? Because if you didnt vote for Obama that meant you HAD TO BE racist, its the only reason for it. Gotta love the good old standby excuse of “its/you’re/they’re/has to be racist”. I love how minorities want equal rights across the board, and want to be treated like everyone else, yet at every single turn they jump on the “its racist” bandwagon whenever they can or see something they dont like. I think as Caucasians in the U.S., we need to start using that excuse also. Why not? Whats fair is fair right? If all the minorities dont vote for Rick Perry or whoever the Rep. nominee is this voting season, im definitely going to say “its racist”. What other reason could there possibly be? I mean if the only reason for white people not voting for Obama is racism, then the only reason for people not voting for Perry or Romney next year has to be racism. Has to be.

        • http://myworld.ebay.com/seacoasttrader LukeScooto

          O jesus, now the copyright cops are racist too? Why, cause they didnt vote for Obama? Because if you didnt vote for Obama that meant you HAD TO BE racist, its the only reason for it. Gotta love the good old standby excuse of “its/you’re/they’re/has to be racist”. I love how minorities want equal rights across the board, and want to be treated like everyone else, yet at every single turn they jump on the “its racist” bandwagon whenever they can or see something they dont like. I think as Caucasians in the U.S., we need to start using that excuse also. Why not? Whats fair is fair right? If all the minorities dont vote for Rick Perry or whoever the Rep. nominee is this voting season, im definitely going to say “its racist”. What other reason could there possibly be? I mean if the only reason for white people not voting for Obama is racism, then the only reason for people not voting for Perry or Romney next year has to be racism. Has to be.

        • Guest

          Heheh someone thinks being anti-American is racism.

          hehehehehehhehehahahahehehahaheheha

        • Guest

          Heheh someone thinks being anti-American is racism.

          hehehehehehhehehahahahehehahaheheha

      • Nameless

        US being broke? That’s just a joke and an excuse to put prizes up man.

        -We are Anonymous.

        • Nameless2 Com

          You have no idea about the economy.

    • Jasin39

      How do they know what i download? Do they invade my privacy ? Isn’t this a form of wire tapping ? Doesn’t that require a judge and a warrant first ?

      • No

        Um… it’s pretty easy. When you join a bittorrent network you are listed as a peer and your IP is exposed as a leaf (or branch) node to send data to.

        Now there’s no way they can tell who on your network is doing the downloading. For all you know it could be someone who punked your WiFi.

        Under newer laws in NZ they’ve made the owner of the connection responsible for that. I wonder how it works in this case?

        • Kimreck

          its simple… to know who the other peers are you have to in fact take part of the torrent.. Hmmm I would call that entrapment! It is literally like a BYOB drinking party and busting people for getting drunk.

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          New Zealand is also having protests over that from people who realize how easy it is to hack wireless networking stuff.

        • Yes We Can’t

          And if you download lets say “The.Hurt.Locker.DVDRip.avi” they can’t know if the file is legit or fake. Only if they ofc download a real DVDRip and create an honeypot.

      • http://myworld.ebay.com/seacoasttrader LukeScooto

        No, they tag certain torrents. For instance just recently they tagged a copy of Bridgesmaid on Pirates Bay. So everyone who downloaded it, had their IP Address logged, and all their info, and was email, snail mail, or called with a copyright warning. I have a copy of the email that my friend received. If anyone wants to see what the notice looks like reply to my message here so i get an email, and ill gladly post a copy of it. Its pretty standard, but you would be surprised at the amount of detailed info they collect. So they definitely arent doing a half ass job, they know what they’re doing, and they have it down to a science, dont be fooled. However, the extent that an ISP is willing to go against their paying customers is yet to be seen. It appears to me and many experts in the tech industry, that becuase of the entertainment industry’s failure to pursue legal action against each and every person who downloaded copy written works, that they now want to put it on the ISP’s to take care of it for them. For one is alot cheaper on the MPAA/MPIA, and from a public relations standpoint, they wont look like the bad guys, the ISP’s will. Currently the entertainment industry has suffered serious damage to their public reputation, that will take years to repair, if at all possible. They are alienating a section of their audience who possibly might not be a paying customer at this time, but that doesnt mean they wont be in the future. But to go after them with such ferocity, is only going to anger them further, and drive a larger wedge between the industry and its viewership. This tactic, like the court cases against infringers, isnt going to work in the long run, and is another failed model. I believe that until the industry embraces a new model of distribution and finds a way to make money of of EVERYONE, even in small amounts, as some money is better then no money, they are doomed to repeat the mistakes of the past. A good example is Metallica. They went after a core group of their most faithful hardcore audience, because they blieved they were losing revenue from downloaded works, instead of working with Napster and the like, and finding a way to make money together. That action hurt their reputation so bad, that they’re record sales took a drastic downturn and never recovered. Also up until that point, they were headlining and selling out large stadiums for concerts. Not anymore. Now they never sell out, and on alot of bills, they’re not even the head line act. They’re listeners lost respect for them, and what they sang about. They went from being anti-capitalism/anti-conformity, to just the opposite when they saw a threat to their bottom line. Yet when they first started out they did free concerts and allowed their shows to be taped and bootlegged. Funny how money changes people. I see the same fate for the MPAA/MPIA, only in a different manner. The music industry has already taken a hit they will never recover from, and lost alot of loyal fans they will never get back. The movie industry is next on the hit list.

        • qu1ck

          hey would you mind sending me a copy of that letter. My email addy is bengal.83@gmail.com

          Thanks

    • Bring-da-ruckus

      I just think movie piracy is something that will always be around and the people who make the movies will need to face the fact that 20% of people in the world will illegally download it. Undoubtedly they make huge profits anyway, I think the laws should still be there but they shouldn’t be implemented very often. People will still buy the dvd’s and go to the cinemas!

  • Darknetnow

    we’ll just spiral into darknet and become increasinly difficult to monitor if they do this.

    • Piratescum

      You can spiral into the abyss for all anyone cares.

      • YoureAWanker

        I believe that’s how we all feel about you and your comments, as well as ilk in general

        • flagged

          I always flag Jack Murdock, Piratescum and company comments.

    • Anon

      This is not something we can just run away from. We need to stop falling back on this notion that we’ll just hide better. We need to dismantle the mechanisms that seek to track us, prevent corporations and their governments from outlawing the foundation of true innovation, and above all we need to build our own internet, one that is rooted in the real freedom and equality that our information age makes possible.

      This is real. It is time to do something about it.

      • Roger Ramjet
        • http://otester.myopenid.com/ PiRat

          Also before anyone posts the “debunking” pastebin link, you can link WiFi networks by using can-tennas or satellite dishes (range extends up to ~125km).

      • Scary Devil Monastery

        Already being done. Darknets have already become standard modus operandi for anyone who feels less than thrilled about governments and private interests monitoring their communications.

        Worst case scenario the future in filesharing is by using i2p darknets and onion routing leaf-node protocols. Which isn’t much of a tragedy.

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          Actually, yeah it is, because both those technologies are slow as hell when used for that purpose.

    • Don Weber

      Why do you think the NSA made a replica of the internet????
      I’ll give you a hint.
      They didn’t do it to help us, or make darknets more effective.

  • 666

    omg they have our IP’s, the cyberpolice is gonna backtrace us. WE DUN GOOF’D

    • Whhhahaht

      Oh NO they have my VPN address!

      • Boysof7070

        they have mine too. lololo

        • IDIOCRACY

          they will have my non registered 3G prepaid mobile usb stick IP …….hehe

        • YIFY

          snap! they have my real IP address :(

        • Guest

          can i have your real address?

      • Don Weber

        You mean, oh no for reals, all they have to do is ask the provider for details.

    • Arahanto

      HIDE YO KIDS HIDE YO WIFE

  • None

    Sick just sick.

    Next week we are all getting our tracking chips implanted into our brains

    • RIAAtarded

      you already have that it is called the GPS in your cellphone. :)

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_VZOL4GXXVHE7PCPX6XKOEYUHSE pbdesantis

        Not hard to turn that off .

        • IDIOCRACY

          ha you only think it is turned of, unless you physicaly disconnect the GPS antenna and fry the receiver chip…. you can be tracked….hehe

        • Anonymous

          @IDIOCRACY: I would see that on my battery life :’) and I would feel something very hot in my pocket.

        • Anonymous

          @IDIOCRACY: I would see that on my battery life :’) and I would feel something very hot in my pocket.

    • Piratescum

      If dogs can have microchips planted in them, its only fair that humans receive the same treatment.

    • NO to NWO

      Search on Wikipedia: “RFID chip “

  • Anon

    Decentralized data system, eh? Sounds like they are learning!

    Only problem I see… is that pirates already know about decentralized systems… so I wonder if we will hear about hacking attempts on such data systems…

    • Maxx

      Still suffers from flaws like those in cloud computing.

    • Scary Devil Monastery

      We certainly will. And I would be very surprised if those decentralized systems didn’t end up containing every ip adress known to belong to copyright advocate lobby firms as a courtesy due to the hackers.

  • Zzzz

    “That means that, if an ISP does not receive any ISP notices from rights holders concerning a subscriber’s account for a 12 month period, all prior ISP notices and copyright alerts from the subscriber’s account may be expunged.”

    “May be expunged” as in wont be expunged.

    • Anonymous

      If US traveler data is an example then 10 years would not be unexpected. They need to store IP infringement data for terrorist tracking right?

    • Anonymous

      If US traveler data is an example then 10 years would not be unexpected. They need to store IP infringement data for terrorist tracking right?

    • Stupid Comment

      If it’s just slowdowns maybe not, if it’s actual disconnections there’s an incentive for the ISP to drop the records asap, otherwise they’re just hurting their own bottom line for the media company.

      • Anon

        The people running the ISPs don’t care about the bottom line; they’ll just fire people and pay everyone else less. The people running the ISPs are being paid to censor and disconnect; they have no incentive to do otherwise.

        We need a Pirate ISP!

  • Anonymous

    So we are giving our Government approved monopolies police powers to protect the rights of private corporations.
    They are going to be able to monitor what we do on the internet, and then send us notices where we only have the chance to use preselected defenses that we have to pay a fee to invoke.
    And somehow this is all legal?

    Let us not touch on the fact that the gathering of this information is flawed by its very nature, and that there are many examples of false positives and the ability for a 3rd party to deflect blame onto an innocent party.

    How soon until we stop taking it in the ass and start demanding our representatives actually represent us.
    Would the ISPs be so interested in this course of action if we demanded the stop of public funds that subsidize their networks?
    Would they be interested if we used this unilateral move to become a private police force to remove their ability to be granted easements to private and public property?

    They are no longer going to be a common carrier and as such they should not be offered any of the rights or privileges we give the common carriers. In many areas there is only 1 option for service, so when they cut you off you no longer have any internet access.

    Instead of screaming on blogs, or sending a web generated letter it is time to put pen to paper and ask our representatives if we now grant special police powers to corporations at the expense of the public trust while making the public pay the costs for a private corporations censorship of the internet.

    • Anon

      I wholly agree that until pirates get out of the VPN darknet encryption mentality and confront their representatives about these legal changes in real life, piracy will only be tracked and punished more and more. If it’s legal to lock a man in a concrete cell for the rest of his life while the constitution cries “Freedom!”, you bet your ass this kind of monitoring is legal because it is in response to mindlessly unlawful activity focused solely on getting stuff for free. This couldn’t be happening to a more deserving group. Good comment, T_A_C.

      • Guest101

        Remember linux “cost” over a billion to develop in a conservative estimate, and you can get that for free. Perhaps we should just give whiny self-entitiled toddler copyrightists who think it’s okay to censor a free ubuntu cd, and maybe a glass of milk and a cookie and send them to bed. The information that’s already freely available to those poor starving artists is more than anyone could ever hope to produce in a lifetime.

        Unlawful doesn’t mean wrong. It’s right to break unjust laws, and you don’t get many more unjust than copyright monopoly law. If you don’t want something copied, don’t release it.

        • Anon

          ” If you don’t want something copied, don’t release it.”

          And you would apply that to automotive, pharmaceutical, aerospace, literature? In your view every creator must relinquish control, distribution, copying and remixing in all creative endeavors or simply lock up their work and never show it?

          You’ve been drinking again. Your representative will chuckle and ask you to leave.

        • Guest101

          Anyone who supports copyright law is not my representative by definition. You may be trying to sow the notion that we’re powerless, after all, “The wise despot, therefore, maintains among his subjects a popular sense that they are helpless and ineffectual.”. But you are really bad at it. Really. We see straight through you. Fundamentally, we are smarter than you. Your time is over.

        • Guest101

          “every creator must relinquish control”

          Oh yeah, and they have no right to any control over copies other than their own. They retain full control over their copy, the actual physical product of their work. It is their choice to release a copy. Remember, physical property law and copyright monopolies are actively incompatible, as demonstrated by N. Stephan Kinsella. If you’re for copyright, you’re against property.

          http://mises.org/books/against.pdf

          Beware of the dangerous mistake of regarding all copies as “one thing”. They’re not – if you have two copies, and destroy one copy, the other still exists. Different things, QED. Copyrightists have a persistent “whats mine is mine and what’s thine is mine too” attitude that is frankly disgusting.

        • Danny

          @Anon

          Both copyright and patent law has been abused by big assholes to enforce their monopolies. It needs to be reformed so that we can have true competition again and real innovation.

          With the current state of the music industry we just get crap artist after crap, manufactured, artist. Films are going the same way, shit remakes of classics are not what people want!

          There is a whole industry that makes money off of patents who don’t make anything, how is that possible? You shouldn’t be able to make money out of a company because you own a patent you should be producing things and innovating. Don’t get me started on those greedy pharmaceutical companies, they should be giving free drugs to the poor but oh no its their patents/monopolies. All these people just make me mad! The US has a lot to learn about health care and how to look after its people.

        • Anonymous

          And you would apply that to automotive, pharmaceutical, aerospace, literature?

          mericans think they own everything

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

        And how effective was HADOPI again?

      • IDIOCRACY

        “Let us not touch on the fact that the gathering of this information is flawed by its very nature, and that there are many examples of false positives and the ability for a 3rd party to deflect blame onto an innocent party.”

        “you bet your ass this kind of monitoring is legal because it is in response to mindlessly unlawful activity focused solely on getting stuff for free. This couldn’t be happening to a more deserving group.”

        I thought the law was there to protect the innocent and not to punnish the quilty (and some innocents in the proces)

        But I could be wrong hehe (magna charta died, I suppose?)

        • Garuda

          The law is there to protect the rich and powerful.

        • Garuda

          The law is there to protect the rich and powerful.

        • IDIOCRACY

          @Garuda
          Yeah I should have known, dark ages all over again. :(

        • Danny

          Dark ages? Yes we should get on and suppress science and technology! This internets is just getting out of hand. Too many people able to read the truth, communicate, and get information for free.

    • Anonymous

      Unless we fire the entire congress and replace them with people who actually understand the issue, we’ll be forced to keep taking it in the ass.

      No way to tell if these companies have paid to get anyone elected under current law either.

      • OneRepublic

        in 20-40 i guess but those old timer in Washington dont know shit about issue or even research about issue from 2 side, they just get on the side that pay for their vacation or take them to expensive dinner!

        • Piratescum

          They do understand what they are doing. Its just that they don’t want to side with criminals whose sole intention is to rip off artists and developers by trying to obtain anything and everything they create for free.

          Most of the sensible people in this world, barring the lot that supports this site would never vote for those who believe in ripping off content creators. Its not too hard to see that some people’s livelihood actually depends on selling copies of whatever music or software they make. Its rather convenient to think money will flow into their pockets somehow even if everyone pirates their stuff.

        • Danny

          @Piratescum

          People sharing music and films aren’t doing it to rip off artists and developers. They in fact want to pay for stuff, lots of people use spotify / netflix / lovefilm / etc. who used to download of torrents. People want media in high quality formats that they can use anywhere and that is why file sharing is still favourite for most.

          I have yet to see any real evidence that file sharing hurts artists, aside from the heavily biased propaganda from the MAFIAA. On the other hand I have seen lots of independent evidence to say that it helps artists and film makers.

        • Asd

          If people weren’t sharing content, the profits would be dropping like a rock. Hard to consume media which you don’t even know exists. The artists are being ripped off by their publishers a thousand times more heavily than piracy could ever touch them.

          Hell, the publishers/labels are stealing from the artists just as much as pirates

          “After infringing on thousands of artists’ works, the big four labels agree to collectively pay them $45M USD”

          http://www.dailytech.com/Major+Record+Labels+Forced+to+Pay+45M+USD+for+Pirating+Music/article20632.htm

          That $45M isn’t even the full amount! And it is being paid at the labels’ discretion!!!

          So you’d rather have everyone paying MORE money to the labels? The artists won’t see a dime.

          Where is your fucking point now? Fucking lame pro corp kids.

      • OneRepublic

        in 20-40 i guess but those old timer in Washington dont know shit about issue or even research about issue from 2 side, they just get on the side that pay for their vacation or take them to expensive dinner!

    • Randal

      Too much work. Don’t care that much. Piracy will continue regardless.

    • unknowing eye

      If you think for one second that communicating with your elected representatives will do any good, you are totally naive. The United States of America is foremost a capitalist society, and as Randy Newman once sang, “It’s money that matters.”

      Is it even possible, if you and everyone you know who is opposed to this anti-piracy plan, were to combine your collective wealth, that it would match the treasure trove of cash that media companies can muster? The 2010 decision by the Supreme Court of the United States, Citizens United v Federal Election Commission, gave corporations the right to funnel unlimited funds into political campaigns by the use of specially created Political Action Committees. Our elected representatives are now completely owned by multinational corporations.

      Our Representative Republic, commonly and mistakenly referred to as a Democracy, is DEAD. Citizens of the United States of America should consider their government to be hostile occupation force and respond accordingly.

      • Anon

        You are absolutely right. Burn it all to the ground! The only way to find justice is to tear the whole corrupt system apart.

        There are millions of us! We are our own nation! We defy the limitations of distance, discrimination and prejudiced. We are pirates, empowering the people of the world with access to knowledge like never before.

        It is our time and we shall share!

      • Anonymous

        If all of us, “pirates” non-pirates got off of our collective asses and took the time to actually go and vote for the candidates that didn’t promise more of the same, they might take notice.

        We get millions of votes for freaking American Idol, but some people can’t be bothered to vote in an election because its hard or boring.

        If you don’t get off your ass and vote why do you expect change.
        Even if we voted a blanket ballot of anyone but the idiot who has the job, we might make a dent.

        They listen to the people giving them money, but they can’t keep the job without votes from the people. If we start stuffing them out of office at a fair clip when they screw us over they might start to have the fear of us in them.

        There are somethings we can’t solve with a web petition or some smartphone app, we might need to go out on election day and let our voices combine into a roar that terrifies them.

      • Roger Ramjet

        dood.. its been that way since linchon revoked the original constitution, back in the 1860s…

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

      Someone told you the US was a democracy? Pshaw, that’s so last century. Nowadays, plutocracies are where it’s at!

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

      Someone told you the US was a democracy? Pshaw, that’s so last century. Nowadays, plutocracies are where it’s at!

      • IDIOCRACY

        see my nick hehe

    • Chucky Cheese

      Freedom is still an American dream. Have you seen the Patriot Act? VPN, and 7 Proxies is the only way to shield the evil empire out from snooping.

    • Anon

      Our representatives won’t do shit for us, because it was never their intention to represent us in the first place. They only represent those who have the most wealth.

      I agree we must quite the running and hiding, but what we really need to do is take it into our own hands. They government ain’t going to be there to protect us, hell, they’re being paid to shut us down! We might find an ally or perhaps an official who’s vaguely sympathetic, but it’s time to stand up and fight!

      It’s time to take back our internet and build it anew!

    • Jared Anders Loughner Breivik

      Yes.
      Sign a petition.
      Vote for the “this” party, or the “that” party, get involved in the fundraising.
      Lean left. Lean right.
      Label yourself, label the people, liberal, conservative, democrat, republican.
      IT ALWAYS WORKS.
      Fuck politics.
      Shoot them in the fucking face and it changes nothing.
      They are figureheads, freedom has never existed, and bankers/militia murderers have complete control of the whole globe.
      We are being farmed and leeched, rounded up and burnt, starved and betrayed by these fucking parasites, every second of every day.
      Tens of thousands of warheads waiting to go.
      You must actually believe control of the internet is about copyright.
      Try to change it all by writing something on a piece of paper.
      They care, they give a flying fuck about you and yours.
      Really, they do.

  • Killshot

    this is why you hop on VPN’s / socks5 proxys ;)

  • Anonymous

    tl:dr

    come track me on my pirated wifi nigger

    • Piratescum

      Oh look somebody is proud of stealing his neighbor’s wifi.

      • IDIOCRACY

        could be the trainstations wifi ?? or the airport?? or the local hotspot?? not necessarily a person, so not necessarily stealing… presumptions…. asume makes an ass……………. need to say more?? hehe

      • IDIOCRACY

        could be the trainstations wifi ?? or the airport?? or the local hotspot?? not necessarily a person, so not necessarily stealing… presumptions…. asume makes an ass……………. need to say more?? hehe

        • Lol

          He’s just a paid troll by MAFIAA.

      • Guest

        No one can’t steal wireless. You can only make the other person share their internet connection without knowing.

  • Ven

    Taken from the Copyrightinformation.org FAQ:

    “11. What if the subscriber believes that he or she is not engaged in copyright infringement?

    Before a Mitigation Measure is imposed, a subscriber may request independent review. To request an independent review, there is a $35 filing fee, which is waivable. This is a non-exclusive procedure, and any subscriber may choose to challenge any action in a court of law. ”

    So when these become an issue, users can simply take their ISP to court and demonstrate to a judge the many ways in which the IP-address farming is inaccurate.

    • http://twitter.com/Mathew30 Mathew Lisett

      so even if they dont get far with this, they will rake in the moeny by people trying to prove their innoccence and paying over the money and even then that wont save them. so its just another way to scam money out of the consumers but this time it will be via law and not being used.

  • Anon

    Here’s a question: How do they know they are engaged in copyright infringement?

    • BillyB

      By getting down and dirty and sampling your data stream…
      Guess what they forgot to tell you is that your ‘private’ internet connection is also going to be subjected to ‘packet inspection’.

      If it does, surely this is a breach of privacy in it’s own right?

      • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

        Big Brother is watching you.

        • Guest

          gogo little brother

      • Scary Devil Monastery

        Yes it is. DPI is basically the same as having the post office open every letter, copy the contents, then re-seal it and send it on. Just like the DDR and Soviet used to do.

        Hence the need for encryption used in everyday life as your personal correspondence will be infringed upon as well by such measures.

        Personally i’d drag every ISP to attempt such behaviour into a class-action lawsuit based on illegal mass surveillance.

  • http://Twitter.com/elisaknockout Elisa ? Knockout™

    lol

  • Anonymous

    Screwed up logic time:

    So if IP (the internet protocol type) are people just like corporations are people, and my IP is found doing nefarious things, shouldn’t they be suing my IP rather than me? Can I file for a Limited Liability IP and hide behind it? I wonder what would happen if my IP went bankrupt.

  • freedom

    it like cat and mouse, they going to be one step behind. until they kill the internet for good, people have died so we could have freedom. this what the big companies want, so they put everything up and punish the working man

  • me

    It’s 1984, big brother is watching you.

  • Guest

    All these corporates parasites are going to end up with their heads on pics.

    It is only a matter of time.

    • Ignorethelaw

      sooner the better

  • Gufsfsest

    lol we are all engage in Copyright infringement 24/7 by just visit a website, cause it basicly save all the webpage into our temporary folder and isnt that copyright infrigment? making copy of something you dont have the right to?

  • De Sade

    When do we actually start exterminating these bandits?
    Every single one of them when leaving their flats should be in constant fear.
    What if where is a sniper on the roof? WHat if their car is rigged with explosion? WHat if their food is poisoned?

    If the government becomes an accomplice to their crimes against humanity and civilaization then it is time for us simple people to start acting and destroy them all. They must know that not any ammount of political and finance power will guarantee them untouchable status!

    • OneRepublic

      i agree with piracy is wrong and they should be punish if they committing it, but the punishment doesn’t fit the crime…

      i dont get how a person get away with speeding when they know they could endanger their life and the other person life, fine from $50-100 buck. while piracy range from 1000-10,000 dollar….when these people just watch it once and delete the files.
      so they say that life arent worth as much as downloading some file off the internet, or if we can get 80% of citizen to do the act of pirate then everyone get away with it? easily?

      it would be right if they just charge a person a for the price of the product that they pirate off on internet, It would be more logical and disputable. see if people know that they gonna get charge for same price as the legit product cost, why would they go on and download pirate and get themselves in trouble while they can just go buy the product…

      Laws needed to be change to fit with it era, you cant just whipp out a laws that made back from 1980 and constraint new and modern society to it course, that just horrific, I guess we still didn’t notice the consequence, just like American when it first found, how did it found it by oppression and people get pissed by the stupid laws that our elected leader put in just for the sake of corporation….

      and i though American was found because of these oppression, why do we go back to it?

      • AmericanJesus

        The difference here is that it was the English fleeing from a tyrant who started America. The Americans of this day have no backbone and just allow their corporate greedy government to try and rule the world!

  • me

    I like to buy music cd’s from my local pawn broker, New albums are only 4$ U.S., older albums are 2$ U.S. Then I burn them and sell them back to the pawn broker, So I get a new album for 2$ U.S. and old ones for 1$ U.S.. The best part is the RIAA gets none of my money. HaHAA

    • Meh

      Or you could just cut the entire pawn broker out and download the flac’s.

      • me

        Don’t download any of there albums, was my point, Boycott buying albums from standard retailers altogether, That’s why I go to pawn brokers, yard sells, etc. They do not pay RIAA any profits. Less profits = less money for lawyers.

        • Danny

          Well the CD was bought originally so a percentage of what you pay for it was already payed to the RIAA.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Dilly/1624894683 Don Dilly

    One thing that should be done over this is for either an online publication or civil rights group to collate all available data on how many people are accused of what titles (with the rights holder in bold letters) along with the ISP

    While they might bost being the major ISPs, they wont be for long once the info goes mainstream and the rights holders would also learn what a bad move it is to persecute customers which has been shown as bad for business on many levels

    Then just sit back and wait for them to take another office printer to court

  • Foff

    They will be collecting so much data they will be crapping it out their noses. I change ISP every six months or year so it won’t matter. In my location ISP’s offer introductory rates that last a year or six months and when that year expires they want to double the rate so I switch and take the introductory rate of the competitor. I could also terminate my account and sign up for a new one two days later either way my old ip is dead. I have not gone the vpn and/or seed box route but the day of these services for me may not be far off.

  • Khmuprince

    Can anyone in the U.S reached the http://www.demonoid.me/ website? I tried since yesterday and could not get to the site.It keeps saying that it redirecting.. but never get to the site. Anyone has any idea what is going on? Hope my ISP didn’t fuck up with my service. Thanks in advance for your help.

    • Trespass

      They had a crash. Website is down but the forum is still up. They say they will be up and running soon…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sean-Brazell/100002034890242 Sean Brazell

    ““There will be an independent technical review. The agreement requires that an independent technical expert review methodologies used by content owners to detect alleged content theft and by ISPs to identify and forward alerts to applicable subscribers,” ”

    Yeah right, and I’ve got a great deal on a bridge, if you’re interested!

    These people are so full of shit
    that even a big would turn up it’s nose at the smell.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OK7Y7PCSTJ27RCKZ2MGRSAYCTE NEIL

    I don’t understand how privacy of individuals can be so compromised just to protect commercial interests – and people worry about government invasion of their privacy!!

    A private company able to browse what you do and where you go on the internet without your consent or knowledge and then handing that on to another private company – how is that even close legal?

    • me

      It’s all about the money, and a failure to recognize outdated buisness models on behalf of the MPAA and RIAA . No one has the money to waste on movies or cd’s. When the rich buy political power, To be honest money wins, the legal system has shown this over and over.

    • Piratescum

      The same way your privacy can be compromised if you are a suspect for any crime. Why does it have to be different for the internet?

      They don’t care what you do on the internet as long as you stay off their intellectual property. If you have nothing to do with that, I don’t see why it should bother you.

      The pirates bought it upon themselves and are the reason why innocent people who have never pirated anything in their lives will be put through the same scrutiny as the rest. Its like the teacher punishing an entire class because 80% of the students disobeyed the rules. So if you have to blame anyone blame the pirates, including yourself if you are one.

      • IDIOCRACY

        That still does not give the teacher the right to punish the whole class, Laws are there to protect the innocent and not to convict the quilty. you forgot the struggle people had in the dark ages against their oppressors.

        The US is turning it around again and we go back to the dark ages where there were no rights to the individual.

        You forget that all internet is checked and analized with DPA to see what everybody is doing, and then find a percentage of those people pirating..

        The whole problem with your statement is that is asumes that the quilty are investigated, e.g. in case of open wifi this is all but true..or only to mention IP spoofing, botnets etc.etc.

        In your point of view, everyone that is not aware of a computers full capabilities (and the risks) is quilty by default. This is a total different discussion, the discussion of should nitwits be allowed on the internet…

        We just had an example of this, a lady of 70 was sued for a brief period uploading or downloding copyrighted content, the lady in question does not even know what uploading and downloading is, she just has her internet to pay her bills online

        (not that safe if you don’t know shit about security but… that is her choice and she should not be punished for that with all the banks closing their service points because of personel cuts for higher profit).

        So, I guess you could be a bit more wise and educated in your comments.
        hehe

      • Anonymous

        Crime? At most it’s a violation of a copy monopoly… That’s just a civil dispute bro. Not knowing the very basics makes you sound uneducated. Stop embarrassing yourself.

      • Danny

        I believe the police have to apply for a warrant to be able to ‘invade’ your privacy. They have to supply evidence to a court that you may be breaking the law. These private companies seem to have a free ticket to skip that step. Seems a little strange!

      • Scary Devil Monastery

        You really are an idiot aren’t you?

        When your privacy is compromised because of suspicion of criminal intent then what has happened is that you, as a citizen, have been suspected of a crime and legal authorities have taken steps to circumvent your right to protection of privacy.

        What is discussed in this topic is the equivalent of private interests monitoring the communications of every citizen in the country in order to see if they are doing something illegal.

        Per definition the second approach is not possible in any free society as such a society immediately ceases being “free”.

        There is no reason good enough to justify mass surveillance of the citizenry. Not terrorism, not conspiracy, and certainly not filesharing. The only regimes ever to believe that have been the ones where “democracy” and “due process” did not exist.

        I realize that you seem to be trolling out your nose trying to make an argument as to why a Soviet-era judiciary system would be preferable but if so you could at least come out of the closet regarding your unabashed admiration for oldstyle communist legislation dogma.

      • Anonymous

        it’s not a crime except in those places where MAFIAA dollars have made it one

        criminalising file sharing is as morally bad as banning altruism

  • Ignorethelaw

    Honestly I don’t care what they do, see i’m what you call judgement proof. I ain’t got no money so you can sue me for trillions and I just don’t care…….and oh maybe I being a criminal pirate will get executed or something suitable for the sin of downloading some stupid shit right? Well who cares cause i’m a slave here in the good ol usa anyhow. What have I got to lose…..

  • Anonymous

    Thanks Joe Biden! we’re kicking your ass out next year!

    • Anonymousse

      It doesn’t matter who’s in office anymore, the system itself is totally fucked.

  • Anonymous

    If you’re receiving food stamps or unemployed, you can’t be sued for money that you don’t have.

  • Tibor

    So Americans get a more watered down punishment system than the one their government is forcing down the throat of smaller countries.

    ahh imperialism it’s all good when you are the boot and not the throat that it’s stepping on….

  • Alan Ball

    Something tells me people are going to spoof the shit out of this, and it’s going to gather useless data; but they’re going to try and use to convict people anyway.

    • Anonymous

      Trackers should put like a shitload of false IP addresses in swarms.

  • Slowing down connections

    At least they say they will slow down the connections.
    There are countries in which they do so at certain times of the day already for usual bittorrent users. Without any further advice.

  • StevO

    At the rate I am disconnecting Cable subscribers (contract for voluntary disconnects) I can see how the ISPs (generally cable modems) will not like this. I disconnect over 250 a week for TV and internet. And thats not including the other guys that work with me doing their 200-250 and theres 4 of us in our town alone. thats over 1000 a week and its just gettin worse. Just by seeing how many are left on the taps now is frighteneing. Theres maybe 1 or 2 left after I get off the pole.

  • Dimitri

    “monitor BitTorrent and other public file-sharing networks”

    LOL, the RIAA is sooo years behind!

    The only thing this will cause is that finally BitTorrent will also in the US be going the way of the dodo and people will start using cyberlockers like RapidShare instead as it’s already the case in Europe.

    There is a reason why ThePirateBay recently also got into the cyberlocker business and started their BayFiles cyberlocker. Think about it RIAA…

    • Anonymous

      Meh, just wait until they spend like millions on the project and start to encrypt all traffic. Poof, money gone. Epic lulz.

  • iwasnthome

    I’m for the bottom line. Boot the govt. We are backed by the Declaration Of Independance , “OUR DUTY”. NOT UP FOR DEBATE. hit ‘reset”

  • iwasnthome

    The last time we handed thier asses to them, we only had 13 states

  • Arne Babenhauserheide

    6 strikes + 12 month data retention — in europe we fight against 6 month retention: http://www.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de/content/view/483/55/lang,de/

    Please go and install freenet today so you can keep your right to free speach without effective censorship (that’s what any kind of data retention brings with it).

    ? http://freenetproject.org

  • I’m a pirate… Argh !

    This is bullshit. Another way for large corporations to make more an more money by crushing the little guy. Its not like there are more important things going on in the world for the government to worry about….

  • Anon_Sucks

    This Anon gut is a fraking idiot. If you buy the product and want others to use it, it should be ok.

  • Pentel Eraser

    What about Alaska, Sarah Palin can see Russia from here own back yard. This place is drifting away from the whole continent. Alaska will make an addition to the U.N.

  • Liam Lah

    Download peerblocker, our mobloquer on linux. It will prevent these guys from spying on you while using your p2p networks.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RRYM2J7GCHAQQPDQVWCXGOIPXI Crafty

      U-Torrent and eMule can run peer blockers inside their programs. Use them. And for FUCKS SAKE use encryption.

      • Danny

        Forced encryption should be default!

  • Shoujoupdates

    Will cyberlockers be safe?
    What about non-Torrent P2P?

  • Cujo

    I don’t understand what good it will do logging ip’s ,, take me for example ,, I like grabbin a couple a techy boot discs to help my freinds keep their boxes up and running ,, and I do that from accross multible vpn’s ,, proxies ,, and I connect from multable locations (might be as many as 100 in any given year) ,, so basicly if all fellow pirates like myself ,, do the same thing (as I’m sure they do to some point) ,, well then won’t the decentralized database (you got to love that) include every ip in the US ,, I mean what’s the point of logging all US ip’s as they share files? ,, might as well just write all US ip’s down right off the bat and pass the list out ,, right? :D

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RRYM2J7GCHAQQPDQVWCXGOIPXI Crafty

    I bet this new database will be irresistible to Anon and his crew.

    • Anon

      Fundamentally, Crafty, we think this is about basic accountability similar to accountability IRL. To government and industry, internet anarchists appear hell bent on creating as much unlawful chaos as they can get away with. Sometimes it’s about getting free stuff, sometimes it’s not, but illegal behavior on the network is all being addressed together.

      If we can agree the basic struggle is about government leveraging legal curtailment as we elect them to do and pirates using tech to defy and infringe, this won’t end well for both the pirates nor the internet. Ready your world history.

      • Blah

        Industry? The legacy entertainment industry is tiny. The defense and tech industries depend on secure networking. Who do you think will win? The legacy entertainment industry who wants to break everyone’s security, including the defense and tech industries? Don’t kid yourself. In the end, you’re just buskers to dance for our amusement.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RRYM2J7GCHAQQPDQVWCXGOIPXI Crafty

          The entertainment industry is tiny but it sure is LOUD!

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sam-Hassock/100001390055136 Sam Hassock

        Fundamentally, Anon, the real question is why the government is more interested in hounding a teenagers sharing files instead of going after corporate law breakers that are routinely screwing over vast swaths of the politician’s constituents.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Adrian-Hansraj/100001487474527 Adrian Hansraj

    so if u share files u might end up having a criminal record, paying a fee, and get put in a database…sounds alot like the same way they treat hardened criminals..sisnt realise i was Don Corleone

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sam-Hassock/100001390055136 Sam Hassock

      “Alleged infringers will be notified about their misbehavior, and repeat offenders will eventually be punished.
      [...]
      The ISPs will then notify these offenders and tell them that their behavior is unacceptable. After six warnings the ISP may then take a variety of repressive measures, which include slowing down the offender’s connection.”

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous
  • http://www.facebook.com/asaguroi Peter Cannonier

    1984, that is all I am saying.

  • Anonymous

    Sounds like a plan to me dude.
    total-privacy.au.tc

  • http://twitter.com/maruawe WilliamJohnston

    Why are the ISP’s getting involved or more so the federal government(ICE) This is a small problem compared to the multitude of other problems that we face now and for the foreseeable future.. These companies are using thee US government to collect these names for private corporations so they will not have to spend the money to collect this information for the RIAA and the MPAA STUPID use of our tax dollars

  • Scotty2gsm

    The only time I ever download a torrent is with TV shows that I already get on my cable system but I like them better because they are no commercials so I can’t think of any reason to why anyone in the Industry could fault me!

    • #occupywallst

      Oh its your fault all right! You thieving bastard! You support Terrorism! Pedophiles! Drugs!
      You are the reason some MPAA boss only had a half a kilo of cocaine at his $100,000 party last night instead of his usual full key to hand out!
      You are the reason Piratescum didn’t get his usual Thai hooker last night and had to settle for Somalian!
      You are the reason why filthy rich actors couldn’t buy their own private islands!
      You are the reason Obama can’t go on vacation EVERY weekend instead of just every OTHER weekend!
      Stealing is stealing no matter how small! You cannot justify the horrors you have committed on the 1%!

      You personally have taken money from their pocket! How dare you enjoy culture without paying the tollman!
      That shitty TV show you downloaded? the one that on TV is 30 minutes long but when you take out the commercials is 10? that 10 minutes cost MILLIONS of dollars to make! So you essentially stole MILLIONS of dollars from not only the producers, but every actor and techie on that show!
      It doesn’t matter that the show is awful! It doesn’t matter that a five year old with an iphone would have written shot and produced a better movie! Because they had to spend millions of dollars on advertising(in a world that has the internet…) the show cost millions to make!

      Taking food from these starving artists! How cruel of you! Isn’t your minimum wage enough? You are so uncreative that you can’t even make it yourself but have to steal their TV shows? Depriving the makers and others of its value? Didn’t you know that whenever you download a show, the recording back at the mothership in hollywood goes *plink* and disappears into your harddrive?

      tl;dr: Fuck hollywood, fuck the government, fuck shills!

      signed
      -pissed off dude

  • Jen

    Haha f*** that, pulling that stunt will change nothing about people’s sharing habits. They’ll be sparking a whole new level of dissonance in the population if they implement this Big Brother bs. We’ll make the Internet an even worse nightmare.

    • Anon

      ” We’ll make the Internet an even worse nightmare.”

      I think that kinda sums it up. Let’s see how much government and industry will coddle “rights” that are not actually rights at all when laws are broken and they become genuinely threatened by pirates to give up digital products and distribution. Pirates have always picked their wrong fight. There was a “fight” they could have won that would revolutionize much, but they were too shortsighted and selfish to pull it off. When you can stop buying and put an industry out by lawful means but what you really want is t take it for free, your weakness becomes self evident. Fighting piracy is keeping the old cartels alive. And pirates are so selfish they can’t stop themselves.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sam-Hassock/100001390055136 Sam Hassock

        Oh nose! The US Gov’t won’t coddle my rights online. Gosh, what will I do?
        I can’t possibly just turn off the internet and loan a friend a hard copy, right?
        The US Gov’t is shooting itself in the foot once again. Keep turning the internet into a glorified Yellow Pages, see how many people tune out. Idiots.

  • Guest

    hope they get hacked, hate this invasion of privacy shit

  • Anonymous

    There are probably billions of torrent files, ED2K, Usenet, and others in circulation on the internet. How is the downloader supposed to know what files are copywrighted and what files are in the public domain? What about software ? Is merely possessing a copy of Microsoft Office 2007 a violation or must it be installed in a functioning computer with a hacked serial number ?
    Is possession of a book in .pdf format illegal. of must it be in use like in a library or corporate office ?
    If would be helpful to know these things, then we could avoid such files. But the law is not easy to understand, and its no wonder many innocent net users are caught up in the dragnet.
    The US has become a police state, and entrapment of file sharing users by the Fascist Obama regime seems to be more important than criminal illegal aliens. How can this be ? Its because grandma and her 16 yr old grandson are easier to catch and extort money from. The illegals hide in the sewers and dont have any money. America, once was the land of the brave and the home of the free. Today it is the land of the police state, and the home of illegal criminal aliens/

  • Theiceman6995

    Big brother is always watching (0)(0)

    GET A VPN OR DIE

  • Theiceman6995

    Big brother is always watching (0)(0)

    GET A VPN OR DIE

  • Patkays69

    you can not put the genie back in the bottle it all started when they made recordable media back in the 70′s if they completely try to stop copying of media they would have to raid every basement dump garage pawnshop or what have ya not to mention dvd cd blu ray recorders zip drives flash drives and floppy media and that would just be like burning books in ray bradburies famous novel farenhieght 451 i hope i got the author correct but i digress we all know we are god i hate this word its so broad “stealing” but alot of us pay exorbitant rates for our isp’s not to mention actors still get millions before the movie royalties hit artists still get paid quite a bit before royalties game and software companies yes they depend on sales mainly but the companies are still lucrative yes i justify my actions with this statement “I pay 200 a month for internet if i can find anything i want on it for free then its my prerogative to do so” i know i am ultimatly stealing under the guise of that excuse but what it boils down to is i dont care because ive pumped thousands of dollars into the pockets of game and software movie and music industries over the years its kinda like getting a tax return at the end of the year when i take a movie here or a album there game here or os there

  • Fsdfdfds

    Its infuriating that these record companies WONT ADAPT TO MODERN TECHNOLOGY…. Instead, their sub branches… ie time-warner… ie comcast gets in on it also. They impose a set limit now of how much you can download a month, something like 200 GB…. which pretty much kills you from downloading 1080p movies… which in turn forces you to use VOD. Now all the companies are pulling the rights away from netflix… again forcing you to watch cable and use VOD. How bout this: Keep it up MPAA RIAA… I will just vpn my mp3s, and watch NO MOVIES, and use NO CABLE TV… Ill just hit the gym more and be more social…. play some basketball.. Then you get NOTHING from me. Most of the movies recently are crap anyways…. I dont buy CRAP.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RRYM2J7GCHAQQPDQVWCXGOIPXI Crafty

      200 GB is a dream. Cable One’s fast pipe has a cap of just 5 GB.

      • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

        Comcast does a 250GB cap, and you can even go over that if you are tough with them and tell them “I’ll take my business elsewhere and tell my relatives to do the same!” if they give you flack for going over it.

    • Anon

      Hitting the gym and being more social is exactly what you should do, Fsdfdfds. For well over a decade pirates have made it painfully clear they have no life outside their parents basement. :-D

      • AnonSucks

        That last part could just as easily apply to people who troll on websites. Say, I don’t know, someone like Anon. : )

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sam-Hassock/100001390055136 Sam Hassock

        You’ve been stalking pirates for ‘well over a decade’? Fuck, that’s depressing.
        No wonder you come off as a bitter, over zealous puritan do gooder.
        Go to the gym, get a girlfriend. Even an ugly one. Open a window.
        Something. Please, we’re worried about you Anon. Call mom.

        (-_-)

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sam-Hassock/100001390055136 Sam Hassock

      I’ve been stocking up for the coming media blackout myself. It’s like Y2K v2 around my place. Billions of TBs of quality, rare, avante garde and creme de la creme from every top 10 list of movies, audiobooks, albums, discographies, record label output, everything. I collect lists from imbd, Pitchfork, and really, anything online, in the world. I have enough to last the rest of my motherfucking life. And I’ll be passing this wonderful shit on to my kids. Fvck these guys. Monopolist cocksuckers. And, when the time comes, I will freely share hard copies with anyone I meet. Commercialism sucks.

  • Fanghook

    As a music composer, I would love for you all to hear my music for free. As long as you don’t seek profit from my origination, we’re cool.

    • Guest

      where do i find you music?

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  • Sanity_Vocal

    I just wonder if the monitoring authorities will be able to differentiate from wilful downloading of copyrighted materials, from actions caused by Bot controlled trolls. Because unless they are able to detect bot activities, online users who aren’t too security savy will run the risk of unknowingly being used by hackers to download stuff without knowing about it.

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      That is what people have been pointing out: that is is ABSOLUTE IMPOSSIBLE to know that the person in the home, especially if they have a wireless router, is doing the infringing downloading.

  • Omie

    okay, i really don’t understand what any of this means. can somebody break this down to me in SIMPLE terms?

  • Sanokun711

    Kerligirl Warned us about Backtracing and Cyber Police! Shes a prophet of the lord! SHE HAS THE EYES!

  • Nope

    Wouldn’t it be fun to be in a van
    cracking wifi passwords everywhere you can
    and getting people sued for what you did
    that they’ve never commit

  • http://www.clubvalenciacf.blogspot.com SlickR

    Sue these sons of bitches. How can these morons invade privacy like that? What is US constitution for if not to protect people’s privacy?

    I say everyone who has internet should sue these internet providers as well as the MPAA and RIAA

  • Anonymous

    tinyurl.com/2df4ccp

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  • BrainBot

    So, torrents are a bust, but what about those who use Rapidshare and such?

    The funny thing is, the copyright crew could destroy most file sharing for about .10¢ of every dollar they spend on these measures. All they have to do is flood the ‘net with corrupt copies of all their goods. Nobody want’s a flawed copy. If you only have a one out of 50 chance to get a real copy rather than a doctored butchered or mislabeled copy, who would bother?

  • BrainBot

    So, torrents are a bust, but what about those who use Rapidshare and such?

    The funny thing is, the copyright crew could destroy most file sharing for about .10¢ of every dollar they spend on these measures. All they have to do is flood the ‘net with corrupt copies of all their goods. Nobody want’s a flawed copy. If you only have a one out of 50 chance to get a real copy rather than a doctored butchered or mislabeled copy, who would bother?

    • http://myworld.ebay.com/seacoasttrader LukeScooto

      They’re already doing it on Pirates Bay. Which is one of the reasons that Pirates Bay appears to have comletely given up moderating their site and deleting fake torrents. Theres just too many to delete. Lots of tagged torrents that are being tracked, and lots of fake torrents filled with trojans/virus’s. Its the industy’s lame attempt at causing disruption and havoc. Its a good try, as they are doing some damage, but its on such a small scale its not having THAT MUCH of an effect. However, I will admit, it is have a little bit of an effect, as TPB has lost a good portion of its faithful core user group who have left for better moderated sites where bad torrents are deleted and those users ip blocked. TPB doesnt do any of that anymore, they’ve basically given up completely on the site now and its just running on autopilot. I guess a year in jail and a million dollar fine will do that to ya. They’re arrogance was their own downfall, and the outcome of their court case was their own doing. Im pro-pirates, but they put a black eye on our efforts as a group to move things forward in the right direction. Yes i have used their site, when it was cleaner, moderated, and wasnt filled with virus’s and porn.

  • Mafyapenguin94

    So… lets say i just bought that hot new cd that everyone is talking about. But for whatever reason (too lazy, low computer intelligence ect) I choose to also download a .flac copy of that same cd I just bought legally to my computer. I was under the impression that this was COMPLETELY LEGAL. Does this mean now that even if I’m following the laws I still will get flagged or slowed down or whatevs?

    • http://myworld.ebay.com/seacoasttrader LukeScooto

      Your allowed 1 copy of your purchased dvd or music cd. Thats a copy you make at home, not one you download off the interenet. The copy has to be made off your purchased material.

  • http://myworld.ebay.com/seacoasttrader LukeScooto

    TIP: PEER GUARDIAN is your friend. Always have it running, even when not downloading/torrenting. Yes its not perfect, but its a start. Use double or triple layer security. Use other firewalls, malware and spyware detectors, and other internet security procedures. If you have to, and even though it slows your dl speed down, use a proxy, or better yet, use multiple proxies, and/or proxies that constantly change themselves. Programs are out there, especially easy for firefox users.

  • http://semantiikkaa.blogspot.com/ Sebastian Mäki

    Tip: See that your wireless networks are unencrypted and use tor networking or encrypted tunneling.

  • sixspeed

    Anyone who thinks that this is somehow illegal or against your rights, grow up. First, think about you creating a vegetable garden in your backyard and some random Joe comes and steals all your work. It’s every bit your right to protect your work, the veggie garden, from being stolen. It doesn’t matter if it’s corporate or big suits trying to keep their control over the world – it’s their created product and they have a right to protect the property. What if you just built a car from the ground up? You spent months of time and thousands of dollars on this dream. Then, someone comes out at night and steals the car from you. How would you feel about that? There is no other scenario – they made it, they own it, and your not paying for it. It’s very simple really.

    Why does this escape everyone? Furthermore, when you pay an ISP, you’re paying for a service – therefore, all of the information that moves across that service is owned by the ISP provider. It’s insanity to think that your rights or privacy is somehow being compromised. In fact, in most cases, your leasing the equipment used so you can get online in the first place; you really dont own anything.

    Most of you, based on your comments, feel it would be ok to lease a vehicle, not pay for it, and say you have every right to keep the vehicle because you use it, you have personal items and memories attached to it?

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  • Guest

    @sixspeed no the industry is screwing the artists by making them lose fans by adding drm and other stuff we don’t want plus the artists barely get anything from them and they are better off without them plus SHARING IS CARING

  • Guest

    @sixspeed no the industry is screwing the artists by making them lose fans by adding drm and other stuff we don’t want plus the artists barely get anything from them and they are better off without them plus SHARING IS CARING

  • Guest

    @sixspeed all this is a breach in human rights for their money which they use to do more human rights breaching plus we don’t want you trolls here

  • Guest

    @sixspeed all this is a breach in human rights for their money which they use to do more human rights breaching plus we don’t want you trolls here

  • Guest

    I was just thinking … is it at all plausible to use IP spoofing to populate this database with all possible IP addresses? Then everyone is covered by plausible deniability.

  • Speck

    It’s illegal, get the fuck over it. If you want to upload a torrent, go ahead, but if you get caught, don’t say that your rights are being violated.

  • http://www.facebook.com/JerkfaceMcGee Jamie Jerface

    Implying that BitTorrent isn’t already decentralized.

  • Guest

    What good will this do when ISP’s are protecting their customers with dynamic IP addressing? Do you honestly think that an ISP will disconnect their customers?

  • Guest

    @Speck Sharing is a human right all the industry wants to do is screw the artists by trying to make file sharing illegal of their copyrighted work we want Rights and Entertainment not them being cocaine trafficers and moneybags you are yet another paid troll so you should f off NOW Sharing is caring

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