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Digital Monopolies A Bigger Threat Than Piracy, Says Miramax CEO

Miramax CEO Mike Lang and Netflix chief content officer Ted Sarandos gave a keynote talk at the MIPCOM conference. The two discussed the challenges they face in the continuously changing digital world. Both agreed that piracy is not much of an issue as long as you give consumers what they want. Digital monopolies, such as Apple’s dominance in the music industry, are a far bigger threat.

pirateIf we believe the words of the MPAA and RIAA, piracy is the root of all evil resulting in billions of dollars in losses every year.

However, not all of the big players in the entertainment business subscribe to this theory. During the MIPCOM conference where movie and TV moguls gather, Miramax CEO Mike Lang and Netflix chief content officer Ted Sarandos touched on the subject of piracy. Both appeared to have a rather positive stance towards the issue.

Lang, whose company today debuts the Blu-Ray version of the cult classic Pulp Fiction, emphasized that people don’t necessarily want to pirate, as long as they get what they want. “Innovate or die,” should be the motive of entertainment industry companies, where it’s key to listen to customers.

“Piracy has not been the bigger issue for our company,” Lang noted. “I think all consumers at some point in their life , whatever market of the world, don’t want to pirate. They really don’t.”

“Maybe not college kids, but ultimately over time they do not want to pirate, and that the way to react to that is to offer legitimate and great service for them,” he added.

Responding to a question from the audience, Miramax’s CEO talked about the lessons he learned from the music industry. Interestingly, Lang disputed that piracy is the main problem for the music industry.

“Why everyone does focus on piracy, for the music industry, what’s really interesting is that it’s not the biggest issue for the music industry,” he said. Lang explained that the change to digital music and the lower price tags that come with it shouldn’t be discounted.

Netflix chief content officer Ted Sarandos agreed on the effect of lower prices and said that “Walmart changed the music industry more than Napster.”

Another problem, related to the pricing issue, is the emergence of digital monopolies such as the one Apple has in the digital music business. This threatens the music industry more than piracy, Miramax’s CEO suggested.

“Apple is the strongest company in the music industry because there was not enough competition, and still to this day there is not enough competition. As an industry it can’t then influence, packaging, merchandising – all the things that are vital,” Lang said.

“As an industry – the movie industry – we have to be very cognisant of that. That’s why we did our deal with Netflix, and why we also did our deal with Hulu. We want multiple players to be successful.”

Sarandos also learned his lesson from watching the music industry struggle with their digital strategy. “When consumers tell you what they want, give it to them. Figure out a way to give it to them, because they will figure out a way to get it.”

Or in other words. Don’t blame piracy for everything, but innovate – or die.


Miramax CEO Mike Lang and Netflix chief content officer Ted Sarandos

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  • Herbert

    what a refreshing change to hear sense out of the mouths of such influential people. what a shame those words fall on deaf ears of others in similar positions. if only all would just listen, take notice and realise the benefits available, then implement the needed changes, file sharing would be greatly reduced, industry profits would remain and peace and harmony would abound. what a wonderful place is fantasy land!

    • http://otester.myopenid.com/ PiRat

      How else is the elite going to get web censorship without a scapegoat (file-sharing)?

    • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

      I don’t think file sharing will be greatly reduced. I’ll share whether I can get it for a good price or not. As means of discovery, as means of evaluation and as means to have it when I don’t have the money to buy it (in which case, if I do wish to buy it I”ll save money to do so when I can).

      But surely I’d need to rely on file sharing much less if I had, let’s say, straming Netflix with the latest releases. At some point I’d still buy the physical media or a high quality x264 with flac audio to have it with me. Just for the sake of having it and supporting the creators.

  • Gargamel

    Interesting, very interesting article TF.

    Hearing someone say that a monopoly is a bigger threat then piracy is such a breath of fresh air from these idiots its almost to hard to believe that they might be finally pulling their heads out there asses.

    • StevO

      No chance in hell that anyones pulling their head out of thier asses! :P

      • https://market.android.com/search?q=puzzleduck&so=1&c=apps PuZZleDucK

        i’ll have a crack at it :D … hand me that plunger, stat.

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  • Aidan

    Worse, than monopoly issues, big content has been pushing hard to establish fascist content control legislation world wide. Which is a *far* bigger threat to citizens than Apple having ugly exclusivity arrangements for a large selection of media.

  • http://twitter.com/Mathew30 Mathew Lisett

    well halla fucking uyear, we have been sayign this for ages, weve been saying piracy isnt the issue.piracy infact helps the sales of products

  • Shomy092

    THANK GOD!! Piracy isn’t the problem.. There are so many problems in the industry in general, and piracy is not on the top of the list…. It’s near the bottom… I buy thinks that I download from torrents.. People only see the bad in it instead of potential….

  • MAFIAAFire

    If it was anyone “smaller” uttering those words you could expect a smear campaign pretty soon… in fact I’m almost expecting the dead hooker and 3 babies souls stolen! ;)

    • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

      Doesn’t matter the size. They’ll try to dismiss what was said. The MAFIAA that is.

  • Anonymous

    “piracy isn’t the problem”

    well.. no shit sherlock >.>

  • Anonymous

    “piracy isn’t the problem”

    well.. no shit sherlock >.>

    • Reader

      Indeed, Piracy has never been the problem, only one of the outcomes that came from the true problem, the people in charge of the content distribution.

  • CHRONOSSANGRY

    canada signs ACTA against 86% of the peoples wishes
    and now gets the worst draconian copyright law ya can get that will criminalize millions

    ya apple is what i’m worried about…the parent poster is a retard.

    • StevO

      I remember when the canadians were laughing at the americans say that we need to get better control on our government. LOL See how easy it is for canadians?

      • CHRONOSSANGRY

        lol im still laughing why?
        Cause we actually might have riots over it….YOU go sit back and enjoy your police state….YOU CANT piss off 86% of a nation without consequences bud….
        ITS starting…..
        add the crime bill giving casual and pot smokers a min of 1.5 year in jail….
        add the f35 /prisons and the 2014 health acord being broke pissing off seniors over pensions and disabled ….

        YEA the ‘meat” is back on the menu boys…..

    • Mythicalme

      It’s not too late to change that outcome. The bill isn’t law yet. British Columbians changed the HST decision. The copyright bill was too hot to handle before, it just needs to be made too hot to handle again.

      • http://travismccrea.com Travis McCrea

        You ignore the fact that the old copyright bill was under a minority government… We have dictator Harper now.

    • Aaronstackpole

      Hey dick, come up with a better insult than r****d next time.

  • CHRONOSSANGRY

    add to that the lawful access law will come back after they kick off the net or arrest all the people they can to minimize voice on said issue…..

    YUP spying there way to your minds

  • Anon

    There has been a recent surge of online music services that I find superior to Apple’s music store.

    Spotify, Pandora, HypeM, SoundCloud, or YouTube will quench many person’s musical appetite.

    • Danielschell

      MOG!

  • Anonymous

    It is easy to see why piracy exists when it meets a public demand. Official services did not even come close to meet that same demand. We can only hope in the future they will.

    I am sure most people would be happy with a good value NetFlix like service but I myself know that there are deeper problems concerning how copyright is implemented and sold. Until that problem of zoning and exclusive agreements is addressed then all you will do is replace the old obsolete monopolies with new digital monopolies.

    Copyright law as it stands creates monopolies and is therefore bad for free market competition and user quality of service. They currently prefer rewarding the copyright owners and all the middlemen instead of producing a better value service. This is why subscription fees can often be regulated so they don’t totally rip us off.

    A refreshing read but innovate or die is not the only problem.

  • http://twitter.com/AlyssaBlindy Alyssa Blindy

    What I don’t get is:
    ““Why everyone does focus on piracy, for the music industry, what’s really interesting is that it’s not the biggest issue for the music industry,” he said. Lang explained that the change to digital music and the lower price tags that come with it shouldn’t be discounted.”
    If he is trying to say that music shouldn’t be discounted, that prices shouldn’t be lowered, I disagree.
    Also the part where he says that Lang disputed the biggest problem with the music industry is piracy:
    It seems like he is arguing that piracy is the biggest issue. I disagree with that.
    Maybe I am just getting confused; tell me if maybe I read it wrong.
    I had a long day today.

    • Randy McSandals

      Short answer: I read both of those differently, as being in line with the general tone of the piece.

      Longer answers: there’s an alternative meaning for ‘discounted’ (i.e. ‘ignored’). ‘Lang disputed that piracy is the main problem for the music industry’ implies to me that he was *disagreeing* with the premise that piracy is the main problem for the music industry.

      Cure for a long day: take a break and get some rest. All will be well.

      • http://twitter.com/AlyssaBlindy Alyssa Blindy

        Thank you for that. You see, after a long day and you see that something was “disputed” you think it was argued about, agreed with. But now that I got a definition from the dictionary (yes I did go crazy enough about my misunderstanding to go back to the dictionary) which shows the word in it’s use here, I get it.
        Same with discounted; also looked that one up.
        I do not know what has gotten into me today…
        Maybe I accidentally drank some water from The Pirate Bay, and got my head all loopy?
        Lol.

  • Earthrise56

    I have been saying that they need to innovate or die since 2000. I want my content now like every other consumer and that means 1080p digital versions of the content either shortly after airing on television or as a online version available concurrently that’s why i torrent not to mention outrageous prices. I don’t mind watching a couple ads on hulu etc and for people that don’t a competitive premium option is always a good idea. I really don’t want bluerays because just like any other disc it means it’s likely to scratch and i have to dig it out i just want to be able to search my computer and watch it instantly. it’s not that much to ask give me what i want and ill give u my money but not before that.

  • Anonymous

    OK wow that dude really does make a LOT of sense man, I mean like seriously.
    web-privacy.edu.tc

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  • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

    It is certainly good news that Netflixs was unable to impose a Sixty percent increase on it customers by sheer diktat and that Miramax has complained that the oligopolistic dominance of its digital competitors is a bigger threat than piracy. Yet, as I register the expressions all around me of self-congratulation and self satisfaction, I am concerned that nothing has occured today under discussion speaks to the prospects that we are doing anything at this time, but losing abysmally in all aspects of our struggle to attenuate or remediate the power of these corporations. A cursory review of recent developments will inform you that our future has been written for us and we haven’t even received an invitation to the table, much less given participatory status. What is the face of dominant, pervasive, and effective impunity, if it is not the face of French politicians imposing Haddopi on the French people with utter disregard of their rights and interest? How about the English stable of elite political hacks, how far have they gone; and, how much farther are they willing to go to disenfranchise individual citizens to enshrine the dominance of their preferred oligopolies and monopolies? Come to think of it, how did we, as citizens, come to live under a one hundred year copyright law, if not for the conscious impunity with which our assembled politicians and corporations have conspired against our beter interest. This is the ugly face of impunity: The power of the state to coerce policies which attenuate the independent judgement, extinguish the will, and redefine the spirit of individual citizens without limits or accountability. Does it occur to you that copyright as perpetuity, in which publicly necessary information is restricted and controlled, such that it never returns as property to the public domain, does exactly that.

    Do you really think that our prospects against this kind of impunity have improved more than marginally in the light of the good news regarding Netflix and Miramax? I don’t deny that we must be gratefull for any good new, I say only that this is the kind of good news that we should accept with the same gratitude with which a condemned man accepts a crust of bread from the warden on the morning of his execution.

    Yet, I offer you not only good, but great news!! The kind of news that just might (only might) represent an enormously explosive W000000sssshhhhhhhhh in our history and politics. The kind of music that should make you want to dance. Today a spontaneous; new, but growing avalanche of citizens has demanded to occupy the public spaces that should have always belonged to them in many of our cities globally. In the growing tumult of that mass of angry people is the call for change and accountability that our political and corporate oligarchies most fear. Those citizens are making the same complaints and demanding the same changes that we know are desperatly needed. If over coming weeks and months, those protesters grow from one million to ten million or fifty milion or one hundred million and if they occupy the space in front of every bank and corporate headquarters in all of our cities; and if you hear them dare the politicians to ignore their demands and even think of getting reelected, we should all go to the streets and dance to that music.

    • Junkie

      William Shakespeare lives on

      • 7th_Guest

        A keen observer might point out here that Shakespeare also believed brevity to be the soul of wit.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gigitsu Gigi Autriche

    He does have a point. Most people do reach a point where they don’t want to pirate anymore. I’ve been paying for all my software, music, etc. this past year but NOT through iTunes. NEVER! There are better places on the web to get what you want legally.

    They make a good point because all Apples products are just a front end for iTunes. Everything you buy/rent on their devices HAS to go through iTunes whereas other media players/phones/tablets etc have the ability to get content from wherever they want. Apple is a monopoly!

  • LOLZ-MIRAMAX

    Smart words for deaf ears. You think RIAA and MPAA will accept this? They got a bill to pass (PROTECT IP ACT)!!

  • Anonymous

    They’re finally starting to get it…

    • CB

      They are never going to get it, just a distraction, fear based on unrest and protests by the 99% of us against the monopolistic fascist 1%.

      I only buy music that will play on all of my Linux devices, whether a handheld (VoIP ‘smart’ phone), netbook, laptop or PC. DRM…never will buy that…that is not innovation, DRM must die!

      No Root ~ Not Smart.

  • foff

    The dumb f@cks finally figured that out!!! There could be thousands of online retail outlets selling digital copies if it wasn’t for their stupid onerous licensing policies. There is no goddamn reason at all only apple or big companies should retail music and the price for a digital copy where distribution and duplication cost practically nothing should be far less then what is currently offered and what about choices in quality. Why just one f#cking choice fuk why the hell do think we pirate fuk!!!

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  • Rekrul

    Proof positive that the entertainment industry is stupid. Why do they even need Apple or Netflix at all? (not that I have anything against Netflix) What’s stopping them from making their own site to offer streaming music or movies? Or to sell DRM-free downloads? If pirates can figure out and afford to put up websites and distribute music and movies for free, I’m sure that I multi-billion dollar corporation could do it. They’re the copyright holders, they have a legal right to do what they want with the content. So stop complaining about iTunes or Netflix and do it yourselves!

  • Jigsy

    So they’re finally starting to get it…

    I live in the UK, which is one of the countries that always gets fucked over in some (large) way.

    Dilbert (apart from the first eight episodes) and Cheers S8 ~ 11 (in nearly 3y), have never been released on DVD here, so I had to download them.*

    And Sony have this hatred of Europe (though I think it’s only limited to the UK and Germany now) so most overseas stores won’t ship Japanese PS3/PSP games here after the whole Lik Sang thing back in 2006. (Which sucks, what with the upcoming iDOLM@STER port for the PS3…)

    So, what can you do?

    *Importing isn’t really an option. I don’t mind paying for the DVD+shipping, but I refuse to pay extra for a region free DVD player. And what if someone else wants to borrow them; do I have to tell them to buy one too?

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  • Dontshowmyname

    Ive hated apple for a while now since they rebranded into a flashly, expensive, usless, drm infested company. Im glad to see others hate them too.

    Dont get it twisted, if you buy a mac or any apple product, all you get is an expensive paper wieght…

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  • Nat_tvfxqth

    There are tree Apples that change the world, The fisrt Apple form Adam and Eva ate, The second Apple that fell into Sir Isaac Newton’s head and The last Apple is Steve Jobs ‘s Apple R.I.P Steve Jobs Y.Y

    • 7th_Guest

      Sorry to burst your bubble there, but the first two of your delightful “cases” are both fiction and the third is merely yet another instance of an international corporation making obscene profits selling overpriced trinkets to simpletons through monopolistic and nigh-totalitarian practices. Keep trying to rewrite history in the global collective subconscious by elevating Jobs’ life and death to messianic proportions even though he was just a gifted and untrained salesman; who knows, after a billion more attempts by iFans it might just work!

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  • Pashaw

    Netflix is so cheap and available I can’t see it even being worth most people’s time to try and pirate it. I rarely make a trip to the movie rental store now.

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  • Yourmomis

    piracy never was a problem, ever.

  • jroc

    netflix is at the mercy of the copyright holders meaning we don’t get to stream all the content we want. so until then, piracy will continue to fill the gap

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  • Butthump

    Whoever wrote this article is a fucking retard. Innovate or die what an asshole, where the fuck do you get that innovation is the key to sales? You need a dick up your ass. I also don’t understand the bald fuck’s statement about lower prices…if prices were too high assholes will pirate shit because they are cheap fags who don’t pay for shit. at the same time Netflix has ruined the fucking video business because now consumers think that movies are worth $7.99 a month for all you can eat. They fucked the video industry by devaluing DVDs. Same goes for red box. Fuck you pirate assholes.

    • Scary Devil Monastery

      “Innovate or die what an asshole, where the fuck do you get that innovation is the key to sales?”

      It’s called “marketing 101″. Basically it means that every time the local paradigm changes you adapt your market model. Which is why you see a lot of automobile manufacturers and metallurgists but very few horse coach lines and blacksmiths.

      It’s the central tenet of market capitalism. Adapt or vanish.

      But it’s certainly convenient for an industry if it can retain a 1000% margin from selling plastic discs instead of having to go with the flow and trim down the gross overcharging.

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