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Final Ruling Confirms ‘Pirate’ Sites Act Lawfully in Spain

Lawyers defending a file-sharing site say a new legal victory provides final confirmation that sites providing links to copyright works act lawfully in Spain. In a complaint filed during 2009, SGAE claimed that Index-web.com violated its rights but in yet another blow to the music rights group and Spain’s Ley Sinde anti-filesharing law, this week a court disagreed.

Several rulings over the past couple of years have indicated that sites providing mere links to copyright works act legally under Spanish law. One key case, however, threw uncertainty into the mix earlier this year.

The case dates back to May 2009, when music rights group SGAE (Sociedad General de Autores y Editores) filed a complaint against Jesus Guerra, the operator of file-sharing link site Elrincondejesus.com. SGAE claimed the site abused the copyrights of its members.

At full trial Judge Raul N. García Orejudo ruled that offering an index of links and/or linking to copyright material is not the same as distribution, noting that under current Spanish law there is nothing which prohibits such sites from operating.

In March this year, however, an SGAE appeal resulted in Elrincondejesus.com being subjected to a fine of 3,587 euros by the Provincial Court of Barcelona.

In addition to P2P links, Elrincondejesus had offered links to files held on sites such as MegaUpload and RapidShare. The Court said that by offering these direct links Elrincondejesus had made copyright works “publicly available”, even though the site had not uploaded them to the Internet. This, the Court concluded, was a breach of SGAE’s rights.

All this must’ve seemed like very bad news for index-web.com, a site with the same structure as Elrincondejesus that had been fighting an almost identical case against SGAE dating back to 2009. After initially being cleared of wrong-doing at a May 2010 hearing, following an SGAE appeal Index-web.com would now have to face the Provincial Court in Barcelona, the same court that had found Elrincondejesus liable in March.

This month that case went ahead, but rather than SGAE coming out on top again as it had done against Elrincondejesus, the pendulum swung the other way. The Provincial Court, with the same judges presiding as in the previous case, decided that links – whether to material on P2P networks or cyberlocker-type services – do not infringe intellectual property rights.

Lawyers for Index-web.com, Javier de la Cueva and David Bravo, say the ruling is significant and represents the “..first final decision in civil proceedings issued in our country stating that pages of links to P2P sites or direct downloads do not infringe any intellectual property rights.”

Cueva and Bravo say the ruling from the influential Barcelona court will become the legal standard for interpreting Spain’s intellectual property laws in future, and will have implications for Ley Sinde, the Spanish government’s troubled anti-filesharing legislation.

Following the ruling in favor of Index-web.com, Cueva and Bravo – who also represent Elrincondejesus – have filed an appeal on the site’s behalf, hoping to overturn the 3,587 euro fine handed down in March.

What remains to be seen now is how the US government will react. As part of Operation in Our Sites, US authorities previously seized the domain name of sports links site RojaDirecta on the basis that it operates illegally. The Provincial Court ruling appears to put the legal status of RojaDirecta beyond doubt.

Nevertheless, just this week federal prosecutors urged a judge not to return the site’s domain following a request by Puerto 80, the company behind Rojadirecta.

“Returning the Rojadirecta domain names at this time would provide Puerto 80 with the very tools it used to commit the crimes the government has alleged it engaged in prior to the seizure,” the government said in its filing.

Since it is committing the same ‘crimes’ as RojaDirecta, will Index-web.com have its domain seized by the US too?

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  • Dicks

    im moving to spain

    • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

      After this epic win? Definitely. Add me to the immigration queue ;D

    • Guest

      I hope you don’t fear unemployment!

      • Bk

        it’s the same everywhere

        • Daniel

          Not really. Here in Brazil there’s not enough skilled workers to meet the jobs demand, specially engineers.

      • SmarterThanYou

        How could they fear unemployment? These leeches have never held a job…

        • Zig

          What’s the point of working if all your money goes to pay the leeches of the MAFIAA whether you buy their shit or not?

    • Anonymous

      Good luck getting a Visa to go to Spain. I tried when I was 22 about 8 years ago and no country in Europe or Canada would take an American who did not a.) already own property there (outright), or; b.) have a job In said country (and an employer who will advocate on your behalf). It’s sad and funny that people make jokes about “moving to fill-in-the-blank” because of this or that implying that this would be easy. If you are, in fact, an American, its has been made since I tried 8 years ago, and I wish you luck, however the notion that one can just strut in to a Western country and that they will have you on any sort of permanent basis is fiction… I’m not saying its impossible, but, immigrating legally to a country is anything but a foregone conclusion even with a 4 year state college degree and the ability to speak the language.

      • Anonymous

        I think one reason that it’s so hard to emigrate to Europe/Canada is because of the high level of social welfare there. People don’t want to pay more taxes to support people coming from outside their country. With that said, in general, I think racism in Europe is also a bit higher than in the US, so that could be another factor.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

          It is…

          I know of at least one black American woman that had a hard time in Spain. I guess they’re still pissed about the Moors, the Dark Ages, and the Spanish Inquisition.

          Geez guys, lighten up already.

        • Anonymous

          I agree, I have just heard so many Americans say either, “if you like it there so much, why don’t you move there?” or “wow, that sounds great, I should move there.” This implies that other countries would be happy to have them. In many cases this simply isn’t an option unless you have some money, a lot of time, and a couple years, to immigrate legally. My comment was more a critique of the tunnel-vision and arrogance, not of the original poster, but of many Americans, especially those still living denial of impending decline of the empire that is America. It is as if it doesn’t occur to them (again I am not refering to the original poster) That European countries would not be falling over themselves to have an ordinary American come leach of of the Social programs that are pronounced as heresy here in America.

        • ndmushroom

          I’m sorry, do you really think immigrating to the US is easy? I have to pay a 15$fee even if I want to get out of the JFK airport for a couple of hours, that’s how much the ESTA costs. Plus we have to sign ridiculous statements stating that we’re not communists, we love america, we don’t know anyone named Ossama etc. And that’s just for coming as a TOURIST, for f**k’s sake!
          So nice try, but the EU is a lot more relaxed than the US when it comes to foreigners, even though it receives far bigger immigration flows than you guys. It’s not easy, it’s just easiER (maybe it’s the fact that there’s a high level of social welfare, and therefore we tend to care a bit more about others than you americans do) :-)

        • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

          If you live in another country, you earn money on that country, pay taxes on that country, spend money on that country. Makes sense you can use their social services, no?

        • BallJugler

          Well would you like to pay more taxes because Africans are flooding you country… Africans whose favorite past time is to breed like rabbits, loaf around and partying (at least the garbage ones) … it would be as if in America immigrants where granted welfare benefits (not citizenship, but just welfare) based on the fact that “we’re all humans, and must hug each other”.
          And before you say the phrase that we all know you are going to say ” YU RAZiSIT!” … do you believe in free speech? .. i always found funny that the “liberals” or “politically correct” people are so concerned about not offending, tolerance and non discrimination .. BUT THEY DO ALL THOSE THINGS against people that think differently of them!
          My local “public servant” seems to think that the action of not importing Nigerians in mass would be 1.Offensive 2.Intolerant 3. Very discriminative … that’s so funny because, when i try to copy and share/trade MY PROPERTY .. they want to lock me up … AND THEN break my legs
          “Sir i think i feel offended, not tolerated and that I’m being discriminated against because my actions don’t appeal corporations, even tough I’m not doing anything wrong, please don’t lock me up :(” – me
          “LOL! tough shit fucker, you’re going to prison, YOU’RE FUCKING SCUM – spit in face – go whine and cry me river”
          I always knew that, that “Politically Correct” bullshit was fascism in disguise.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LjpkGk5gyY

      • Fraseralbie

        Travelling in Europe has been simplified with the introduction of the Schengen visa. As a visitor to the Schengen area, you will enjoy the many advantages of this unified visa system. Generally speaking with a Schengen visa, you may enter one country and travel freely throughout the Schengen region during the validity of the visa. Internal border controls are limited with no or few stops and checks.

        Austria Germany Netherlands
        Belgium Greece Norway
        Denmark Iceland Portugal
        Finland Italy Tourist Visa Spain
        France Luxembourg Sweden

        plus these also
        Czech Republic Hungary Estonia
        Latvia Lithuania Malta
        Poland Slovakia Slovenia

        • ndmushroom

          The Schengen Visa replaces controls between several european countries. It doesn’t mean that a non-EU citizen can enter EU more easily, either as a tourist or as an immigrant.

      • PissOnTheUSAWarCriminals

        I live in the UK & would have no trouble moving to sunny Spain. Hell, half of the East End live out there. That’s the EEC for you. Ameritards, on the other hand; Who’d want them in Europe? While you blindly support your government’s human rights abuses around the world… Nobody!

        Spain = legal filesharing & legal cannabis. Y VIVA ESPAÑA!

        • Anonymous

          Glad to see you understood half of my point… Judging by your username you don’t have any sort of prejudice towards anyone (no matter how well deserved). Had you read the second half of my post you could pile on Americans further and point out the fact that not only is everything I said true but that many Americans are so blind to their faults and the perception of them around the world, that we actually think other countries would welcome us. Then again, critically thinking in shades of grey instead of black and white is what leads to policies the “no immigrants from (fill in the blank)”. Furthermore, its much easier to keep life simple than to think the say… the UK was complicitous in many of the US’s Crimes throughout the world, and has just voted in a government that is selling the British commons out from under them. Life is not simple and speaking and thinking in absolution’s while it makes it easier to subjugate groups of people for any reason. The Spanish people won a fight against an industry that will hopefully help some people to be and think a little freer but the fact that in so-call “free” cosmopolitan nations a group of large multi-national companies can ruin a persons’ livelyhood by blocking a domain is reprehensible and we should work to change these policies.

    • Lxrkan

      I live in Spain. :) EPIC WIN no the less!

  • MAFIAAFire

    > filed a complaint against Jesus

    Idiots… don’t they know they can never win against Jesus?
    Any Catholic or Muslim will/can tell you that :))

    It also shows exactly who they are… evil (industry) against good!

    Yay! Jesus! ;)

    (Now, the above was said in jest and not meant to offend Christians or Muslims… dont hate)

    • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

      But.. But… BUDDHA!

  • MAFIAAFire

    > filed a complaint against Jesus

    Idiots… don’t they know they can never win against Jesus?
    Any Catholic or Muslim will/can tell you that :))

    It also shows exactly who they are… evil against good!

    Yay! Jesus!

    (Now, the above was said in jest and not meant to offend Christians or Muslims… dont hate)

  • Anonymous

    They should be a role model to the rest of the world !!! ;)

    • Anon

      You wish.
      What will happen instead is generalized tracking of IP from all over the world taken through Spanish portals will be brought to the bargaining table at every trade conference, and Spain will either step up and join the majority or be marginalized in every trade agreement going forward. Without quality trading partners Spain will be left alone to die quietly on its own.

      It’s one thing to give your own stuff away if you wish. That’s cool. But to facilitate taking stuff without payment that is actually owned by others is going to have ugly repercussions in global trade. Just as it should. Fuck them.

      • Anonymous

        I was waiting for someone to come out of the woodwork and put a spin on things. Some of what you said may be true, only the first paragraph. The rest though, hahahaha. You silly goose. Who exactly is facilitating taking stuff? Spain? The courts? Websites? Individuals? All of the above? How would it also have global repercussions in trade? Only one country will make a big deal about anything like that? I’ll give you a hint, the U.S.

        And please, if anyone’s doing things that should have repercussions globally, it’s the U.S. Extraditing other countries citizens. Starting two wars which appear to have no end in immediate site. Committing torture and violating basic human rights. Forcing other countries to help them violate said human rights (“black” prisons). The list is lengthy of things the U.S. is doing that are wrong. I think trying to tell others what to do is definitely hypocritical of them. And despite what you think, not all people in the U.S. are like you. Many don’t like what’s been going on and a change is coming, it’s only a matter of time. Same goes for what other countries think of this country. And they’ll only put up with our crap for so long. The U.S. can’t dictate to other countries what to do and what laws to pass and whatnot. Which means, as a sovereign nation, Spain is entitled to have the laws it feels like having and do as it pleases. The U.S. can deal with it and just acknowledge Spain’s sovereignty and right to do as it pleases, or it can declare war on them if it really wants to. Which wouldn’t surprise me. But I think they don’t have the stones to do it over something so trivial in the grand scheme of things.

        Basically, with this ruling, “Fuck the movie and music industries. And fuck anyone who feels differently. Spain’s courts have spoken, you can be a reasonable adult and respect the ruling. Or you can be a spoiled bitter c*nt and b*tch about it. Either way, nothing anyone can do about it. Well, nothing anyone who isn’t a citizen of that country can do. So ha!

        • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

          Spain is a marvelous trade partner. As much as the US never adopted sanctions against Canada they won’t against Spain. I lol’d hard when the US put Canada in that ‘watch list’ that has countries with problems with counterfeiting goods and loose laws in that matter. Canada? I remember reading a post from Michael Geist with an amused tone. So what if I’m Canada is in the watch list? If they close down a few valves the US would be in an energy starvation. While Spain doesn’t have nearly the ‘diplomatic’ power the US has, they have other trade partners to deal with and I’d bet they’ll give the US a big middle finger if the US starts bitching at them. That’s not to mention that if the US does anything against Spain there’s the European Union behind it. So eat that.

          Heh. What amazes me the most is that the countries pushing for harder legislation over copyright are doing it over US pressure because it’s costing the US some unknown gazillion dollars because US content is being victim of ‘thievery’. Rly?

          Yes, Spain can safely tell the US to go fuck themselves.

      • Anonymous

        I was waiting for someone to come out of the woodwork and put a spin on things. Some of what you said may be true, only the first paragraph. The rest though, hahahaha. You silly goose. Who exactly is facilitating taking stuff? Spain? The courts? Websites? Individuals? All of the above? How would it also have global repercussions in trade? Only one country will make a big deal about anything like that? I’ll give you a hint, the U.S.

        And please, if anyone’s doing things that should have repercussions globally, it’s the U.S. Extraditing other countries citizens. Starting two wars which appear to have no end in immediate site. Committing torture and violating basic human rights. Forcing other countries to help them violate said human rights (“black” prisons). The list is lengthy of things the U.S. is doing that are wrong. I think trying to tell others what to do is definitely hypocritical of them. And despite what you think, not all people in the U.S. are like you. Many don’t like what’s been going on and a change is coming, it’s only a matter of time. Same goes for what other countries think of this country. And they’ll only put up with our crap for so long. The U.S. can’t dictate to other countries what to do and what laws to pass and whatnot. Which means, as a sovereign nation, Spain is entitled to have the laws it feels like having and do as it pleases. The U.S. can deal with it and just acknowledge Spain’s sovereignty and right to do as it pleases, or it can declare war on them if it really wants to. Which wouldn’t surprise me. But I think they don’t have the stones to do it over something so trivial in the grand scheme of things.

        Basically, with this ruling, “Fuck the movie and music industries. And fuck anyone who feels differently. Spain’s courts have spoken, you can be a reasonable adult and respect the ruling. Or you can be a spoiled bitter c*nt and b*tch about it. Either way, nothing anyone can do about it. Well, nothing anyone who isn’t a citizen of that country can do. So ha!

      • Anonymous

        Keep living in your delusional world troll!! The problem with scumbags like you is you keep taking ,taking and taking!! Greed!! Most likely you have no real friends. When and if you lose all your money no one would even notice you’re alive. The entrainment industry DOES NOT run the world!!
        As matter of fact let me clarify it for you!! The real entertainment industry real artist actors ,producers ,screenwriters… etc… etc… etc… Aren’t so greedy nor wish to take other peoples hard earned money, nor do they care aslong as the have a name and fans aswell as earning money for themselves and others.
        Not stuffing the pockets of some distributor to rip them off.
        The real criminals aren’t the people nor the soon to be customers, consumers, fans that you call “pirates”, but these made up associations that represent 7 companies and lobbying the government. Now you want to say no trade well aslong as the mpaa/riaa keeps pushing the Internet. We will refuse to buy shit that comes out of any of those distributor or record labels etc… The mpaa/riaa do not represent me nor the sane people that can’t stand you.

      • An Unwashed Heathen

        Let me introduce you to the 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution. Familiar with it? Good.

        Now, what happens when all those armed American citizens get tired of a pack of Hollywood scumbags along with a pack of corrupt politicians acting like little tin gods and moneygrabbing bastards? Can you say revolution?

        History shows that when negotiation fails and things get out of control, Joe American settles the dispute with hot lead slugs.

        Sooner than you think, tool. Then what? Still gonna be cheerleading for crooks?

        “The people should never fear the government. Government should be afraid of the people.” – V

        • Anon

          lol
          “Unwashed” indeed.
          Uneducated, unread, unrealistic is more like it. Revolution with hot lead slugs, eh?

          LMAO
          You can’t even make up stupid shit like this.

        • Anonymous

          WOW! Dude, do you also think the black helicopters are going to come and kidnap people and put them in fema camps? Jeez us- stop listening to Alex Jones and go outside. If you and your redneck buddies went and shot a bunch of people you would be arrested and tried in a court of law, just like those “hollywood types” would if they were doing anything wrong. This is why you should have to have a more stringent license (and IQ test) to have guns or childeren. Also thanks for proving a stereotype, that Americans are a bunch of reactionary drunks who have had their minds melted by 25 minutes of commercials in an hour of tv so much so that they go around shooting each other all day before going home to beat on their wives/children before getting arrested and locked away in some private prison (or joining the military) all the while dreaming about the beach and surfing.

  • DocGerbil100

    Result! Well done, Spain! :D

    • Anonymous

      Not really. Ley Sinde has no relevance to this case since it was passed AFTER this case was taken to court.

      The judge could only pass judgment on these old cases based on the law as it existed when those cases were originally filed.

      Ley Sinde is the current law of the land, and new cases brought to court will be brought for violation of that law. That law is very clear that linking-based piracy is illegal and sites can be shuttered for it.

      • Ryzzo

        Your actually incorrect. Here is the full quote from the Spanish lawyer referenced in the article (blame the translation on google, but you’ll get the point)

        “With this change of view, the above resolution becomes the first final decision in civil proceedings in our country issued stating that the pages of links to P2P sites or direct download does not infringe any intellectual property right. Given that this is the legal standard of specialized civil courts in interpreting our intellectual property laws, which coincides well with that of the trial courts in many similar cases followed in criminal proceedings, we wonder how can the integrated commission officials which is the Act enact resolutions Sinde closed sites that clearly do not infringe intellectual property rights without understanding that they are committing a crime of trespass.”

        This law is final in its ruling that links do not constitute infringement under Spanish Law. This ruling limits the scope that Sinde can be used against site owners and could possible reverse action taking against linking sites under Sinde.

        In other words… Viva la Espana! Kthnxbye

        • Ryzzo

          *You’re*

          Forgive the typo, but I was excited to shut you up :P

        • Anonymous

          If that is the case, I expect it will be most likely parliament will pass a resolution closing the loophole. I doubt they will instead throw out Sinde, which they already just worked so hard to pass.

        • Zig

          @Anonymous. It’s not actually a loophole, it’s a legal ruling. A loophole would be a way to get around a law, whereas this is the result of a direct use of that law. The laws are only written by governments, but they are enacted and used by the judiciary to decide on culpability.

          If the judiciary decide that a particular outcome is correct when presiding over cases prosecuted under a particular law, then that outcome will continue to be used based on legal precedent barring any other condition unique to a case which might throw the outcome into doubt under some other area of the law.

          If the government changed the law at the behest of US coprorations there’s know guarantee the judiciary would actually change their stance anyway if they still believe it isn’t an offence to merely link to something somebody else is hosting.

        • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

          Indeed, they worked so hard to shove down the ppl’s throats! I’ve advocated against this Sinde stupidity. The opposition to the law wasn’t as small as MAFIAA makes ppl believe. And yet it passed.

          15M showed how the Government succeeded.

  • Mr.Afghanistan

    >>> filed a complaint against Jesus

    hahahaha, you don’t see stupids like this everyday :P
    Now Jesus should attend courts and defend himself LoLs

    • Anonymous

      Jesus is a common baby name in Spain and elsewhere. Not unlike Muhammad is for Islamic countries. It is much less common in a country like the UK that actively bans parents naming their child after Christ.

      • Mr.Afghanistan

        I don’t give a shit about Muhammad ;)
        Pakistanis are taking Muhammad very seriously and protesting all the time.
        Afghans doesn’t care about Muhammad nor about Jesus.

        You can take both of them and enjoy ;)

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SYVN42WDTARILDUIUV63BYLMY4 Irinafirst name Fisher

          LOL Afghans are already deep in their own shit to care about anything else.

      • pisello

        I know of no such ‘ban’. Please post the UK statute or law pertaining to this legislation.

        In the UK if I want to call my kid pudgobbler-jesus-mohammed-the-flying-rigatone-monster, I know of nobody that can stop me. (A good friend or counsellor may attempt to talk me out of it, however…)

        • Zig

          You’re spot on. I just heard of somebody who called their new baby chlamydia – I kid you not!

        • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

          There was some group in Facebook named “My sister will name her baby Megatron if we reach 1 million fans”. I joined. Obviously.

          I thought of the same thing, no1 can dictate which name you’ll put on your kid. Unfortunately some parents ssem to be… clueless… and put some of the weirdest name. I wouldn’t be surprised to find a kid named pudglobber(….)monster. It’d be damn funny but not a surprise ;)

  • dlj

    I do have one question, are there good hosting providers in Spain?

    I think Spain have a great opportunity when it comes to providing hosting, not to files belonging to the MAFIAA but to host websites whose owners are sick and tired of having to live in perpetual fear that someone will come out and take down their website for whatever dumb reason they can find. It just takes a link that the MAFIAA doesn’t like for entire websites to be shut down without even contacting the owner of said websites, which results in a lot of wasted time trying to get sure that everything in the website is safe (ignoring the fact that it should be safe if fair use were at least as important as attending the DMCA requests), and filtering comments so they wouldn’t be inconvenient to the entertainment industry.

    I do want a new hosting provider outside the US, hopefully one that is not unreasonable expensive.

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      Actually, no, it doesn’t. The providers are under NO impetus to automatically take down a site just because of a DMCA. They are under an impetus to inform the site owner and, if they do not counter-file against it, then take the infringing link, NOT the whole site down.

    • MAFIAAFire

      You don’t need to go all the way to Spain for that… we host on Canadian servers and they wipe their behind with DMCA requests as well.

      DMCA = US law and = Canada ignoring it.

      (Although I am sure Spanish ISPs are good as well)

      • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

        I’m sorry to remind you that it was about hosting LINKS to the infringing material. I’m not sure if hosting the actual material would do fine in Spain. Liability to the host companies has not been tested as far as I can see.

        • MAFIAAFire

          @ninja,
          I meant links as well. We even had some links to torrents in the past (not anymore) when we were on Canadian servers.

          @Mike, I meant ourselves (mafiaafire), some of our mirrors are hosting on Canadian servers. Very nice, good service and very very friendly people ;)
          They are next to each other but they do not have a DMCA and do not need to abide by it.

        • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

          I believe hashes count as links too? So maybe hosting open trackers or hash indexers in Spain would be legal? Nice test for the Spanish legal system.

          @MAFIAAFire: what about this (hashes) do you think they’d be ok in Canada? Or should we wait further pushes into the Canadian legal system? I wonder if Mr Geist hasn’t covered this yet. MAFIAA obviously has very particular views on hashes.

        • MAFIAAFire

          I dont know about actual torrent files as we did not have them but we did have magnet links (which are nothing but glorified hashes anyway) on the site.

          Didnt have a problem at the time.
          It was a friends site, before mafiaafire.com was registered.

          Who gives a rats ass what the MAFIAA think about hashes or links or whatever (we dont), as long as it does not break the law of the land and the host gives them the finger… we go for it.
          Got to be careful though, make sure you dont have any MP3s on the server, or commercial software etc as they will be looking to pin other stuff on you.

      • Mike

        who is MAFIAAFire referring to when he says ‘we host on Candian servers’?

        I would think Canada has similar copyright laws as the US, being that theyre next to each other and they pretty much comply with each other all the time…

        • Canuck, eh.

          You would think very wrong then…

    • Anonymous

      Cant they just block these sites on a per country or provider basis through dns (yes i know the site is still there but it effectively kills the site)?

  • Anonymous

    Outstanding, way to go Spain!
    http://www.web-privacy-toolz.tk

  • Anonymous

    Outstanding, way to go Spain!
    http://www.web-privacy-toolz.tk

  • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

    Well, it’s always good to see MAFIAA put back into their place. The US might disagree with Spanish courts since it blatantly ignored the ruling in favor of Roja and seized the domain.

    There’s a long road ahead for the file sharing community (most of the world ;D) before things will settle and non-commercial sharing will be ok. One step at a time =)

  • Anon

    I can see Spain rolling this into a new renaissance, easily.

  • Anonymous

    This is sure nice to read and only highlights that the US bullying the Spanish Government into law changes violates existing law, logic and ethics.

    Yes a great help to RojaDirecta who are now proved fully lawful. Any further denial for ICE to return this domain name is now only a violation of Spanish sovereignty. Either the United States respects Spanish independence, culture, values and the rule of law or it does not.

    I would recommend ICE to surrender and to stop trying to play world police but since I doubt they will I instead would recommend they sit down with the departments for international trade and diplomacy and come up with a general policy.

    I should add that if RojaDirecta get their domain back then this will destroy ICE’s case and extradition of Richard here in the UK who also ran a lawful UK links site when ICE cant repeat the same mistake if they were found to have acted unlawfully.

    All I can finish on is… Viva la España!

    • Anonymous

      “Yes a great help to RojaDirecta who are now proved fully lawful”

      Nope. This judgment would have been based on PRE-SINDE law. RojaDirecta was already ruled legal BEFORE Sinde was passed, and this verifies that was the case.

      Charges have not been re-filed under Sinde Law since yet to my knowledge.

      RojaDirecta is in clear violation of Sinde Law. But you can’t apply a 2011 law to a 2009 case. You’ll have to wait for a new case against Roja and its pals for any Sinde judgment.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

        *sigh*

        And the copyright wars continue for no good reason… -_-;

      • Scary Devil Monastery

        And we have lawyers clarifying that the Sinde law itself explicitly allows linking.

      • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

        Fail. As far as we’ve seen the ruling includes your cherished Sinde law.

      • DocGerbil100

        Does anyone know what the Sinde law actually says? Or where we can find an actual copy of the text of the Sinde law as passed by Spain’s parliament? Presumably it’ll be available on Spanish academic websites, but my Duckduckgo-fu is weak today.

        If Sinde rewrites the definition of piracy to cover links to third-party torrent- and streaming-sites, then there will presumably be a new case at some point.

        However, looking over previous articles (as well as inferring from what’s being said now), the Sinde law doesn’t seem to be referred to anywhere as changing the definition of piracy, only the remedies available for dealing with it, as defined in existing Spanish statutes and precedents.

        If that’s the case, it’s not a minor loophole to be corrected, it’s something that requires the building of an entirely new framework to cover linking – something unlikely to happen quickly, given how difficult it was to get Lay Sinde passed in the first place.

        That puts Rojadirecta – and any other site that merely links to third-party-provided content – in a legally unassailable position for the forseeable future.
        :D

    • Anonymous

      “Yes a great help to RojaDirecta who are now proved fully lawful”

      Nope. This judgment would have been based on PRE-SINDE law. RojaDirecta was already ruled legal BEFORE Sinde was passed, and this verifies that was the case.

      Charges have not been re-filed under Sinde Law since yet to my knowledge.

      RojaDirecta is in clear violation of Sinde Law. But you can’t apply a 2011 law to a 2009 case. You’ll have to wait for a new case against Roja and its pals for any Sinde judgment.

  • gae

    So linking sites are legal in spain… but what does that matter to the US when they will just extradite the site owners anyway? In their view US law seems to extend to cover the whole world.

    • BumbleBee123

      The US IS the whole world. Everything else is just not worth taking.

      Yet.

      • PissOnTheUSA

        … said the know-nothing, buck-toothed aMerkin r3tard.

  • HMM

    ICE HAA MORE LIKE vanilla ice AND WHAT A PUSSY

  • EL DON

    LOS SITIOS ESPAÑOLES MARAVILLOSOS DEL TORRENTE

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  • Xult

    Spain to be invaded by NATO.
    A country full of terrorists.
    Needs GI Joe to shove it up em.
    America.
    The worlds police force.
    The corporate slaves.

    Bullshit 0 Bullfighters 1

    • Anonymous

      Is that a Haiku? lol… I like the scorecard….

    • Bobble

      Ummm, Spain is in NATO

  • John Space

    OK Spain, now you know how to overcome your current economic chaos: make all cyberlockers and websites in danger of being taken down come to you, invest in hosts, etc.

  • John Space

    OK Spain, now you know how to overcome your current economic chaos: make all cyberlockers and websites in danger of being taken down come to you, invest in hosts, etc.

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    • spamcnut

      Flag this spammer TWAT

  • Foff

    At least one country got it right. This f#cked up bullsh#t about a site that indexes links is somehow guilty of copyright infringement is like saying the library is guilty of assisting infringement because they allow anyone to borrow disks for free which can be easily copied. The line has been totally crossed and f#cked up in a lot of countries.

    This is the doing of these pro copyright orgs. Who in their pea brained minds think they are actually protecting someone by all the extortion, threats and nonsense that they do on the internet. What a bunch of clown azz idiots if they think they have any power to stop sharing. It will never happen so they might as well accept it. Or like our retarded governments spending billions fighting a drug war that would be much cheaper to treat then to fight and make so many criminals for the last 40 years. Copyright orgs will be banging their heads against the wall for the next 50 year while sharing continues. Unless the industry grows a brain and gets their sh#t online for a decent price they are pissing in the wind and getting most it right back in their faces.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PXX4S66KOUIGIKTTIMV3CBGO7Y Colin

      They’ve got brains Foff, but what they lack is any kind of morality. They imagine that getting the maximum of money and power is all that matters and to hell with anyone who stands in their way, or even innocently happens to be in their way. With or without help from 4chan/anonymous they’ll eventually discover that Karma Is A Bitch.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Luisma-Hurtado/100000626535600 Luisma Hurtado

    I am Spanish and this kind of news are so usual in here…but the lobbyes like SGAE or THE COALITION OF CREATORS think that they are insignificant and continue on their way to stop people downloading.

    Suppossely the censor law known as “SINDE LAW” is going to be applied in September…but I think that it will be totally useless xD

  • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

    That’s the funny part of his comment.

    [edit] that was for Bobble in reply to Xult.. Disqus is failing awfully frequently lately.

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  • Anonymous

    Nice post. I strongly agree. Keep it up. I just saw it here … http://ionicchemistry.blogspot.com

  • Peter

    If PSOE Party is in power no worries; it means freedom…

    but if Popular Party gets the power Spain is fucked; they as ass-leaker of American government; they are like a kind of inquisition.

    Spanish people: please NEVER leave the Popular Party gets the power again. Don’t vote for them.

    Western people are more than welcome in Spain. Don’t forget to enjoy the San Fermin party season in summer… the wildest party worldwide.

    Viva Espana !!! :)

    • Aa260190

      PP are the residue of the Spanish Nazi party

  • Guest

    In Portugal filesharing is a crime. WTF

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