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French ‘Three Strikes’ Law Slashes Piracy, But Fails to Boost Sales

A new report on the effectiveness of the French three-strikes anti-piracy law claims that it managed to cut Internet piracy in half last year. While lobbyists are making preparations to show these great results to politicians worldwide, there is one thing the report fails to mention. Despite the claimed decrease in piracy, revenues through legal channels are down as well. This is strange, because in previous years these losses were solely attributed to piracy.

piracy pictureIt’s a cheerful day for the copyright industry. In France the controversial “graduated response” law (Hadopi) has evaporated unauthorized file-sharing.

A new report from the Hadopi office, conveniently written in English so it can be used by lobbyists all around the world, is claiming the following.

“Benchmarking studies covering all of the sources available shows a clear downward trend in illegal P2P downloads. There is no indication that there has been a massive transfer in forms of use to streaming technologies or direct downloads.”

The report goes on to cite a variety of statistics ranging from a 29 percent decrease in visits to “pirate” sites in 2011, to a 66 percent drop in illegal file-sharing traffic in France in the same period. Impressive figures indeed, and Hadopi is quick to point out that it’s directly related to their three-strikes law.

While we’re not going to dispute the validity of the provided statistics, it is worth pointing out that there’s something missing from the report. Something big.

For more than a decade the entertainment industry has claimed that digital piracy is the main cause for the gradual decline in revenues. So if piracy is down massively in France, one would expect that the revenues are soaring, right? But they’re not.

If we look at the French music industry we see that overall revenues were down by 3.9 percent in 2011.

Likewise, the French movie industry is still going through a rough period with revenues dropping 2.7 percent in 2011. Ironically, an industry insider even blamed online piracy for this drop.

To sum it up. in 2011 online piracy was slashed in half according to the Hadopi report, but despite this unprecedented decline the movie and music industries managed to generate less revenue than in 2010. If we follow the logic employed by the anti-piracy lobby during the past decade, this means that piracy is actually boosting sales.

But that would be a silly conclusion wouldn’t it?

As we’ve said in the past, we think that the entertainment industries are overlooking a very significant third factor – technology. In the music industry, for example, highly profitable CDs are being replaced by less profitable MP3s, subscription services and free streaming services such as YouTube.

It wouldn’t be going too far to say that the Internet has revolutionized the music industry.

File-sharing is obviously a by-product of this digital revolution, but its effect on revenues has been much overstated. The music industry continues to blame piracy for its troubles, even though digital sales, which directly compete with piracy, are booming.

Could it be that the format shift from physical to digital music, and the change in buying habits that came along with it, may explain the decline in revenue more than piracy can? The Hadopi report is suggesting that this may indeed be the case.

The worst part is of course that this is not how the anti-piracy lobbyists will use the report. That would kill their business. Instead, they will use the report to show how immensely effective anti-piracy laws can be, lobbying for similarly draconian laws all over the world.

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  • Guest

    This is insane

    Doesn’t hadopi allow for sending offenders into exile?

    That’s a blasphamay against human rights!

    Big business would rather send all it’s customrs to Hell so they can keep profits

    • Anyone

      “just” into social exile by cutting off internet access
      so far they haven’t disconnected anyone, most people that got their first warning simply got a VPN and continued as before

      • proof they can’t find proof

        yep… Hide & Seek

        “”can’t find them“” ……”"therefore they don’t exist“”

        Ages 5 + who’s Winning ? lol

      • Anonymous

        Yes and large volumes of French citizena using VPN goes and breaks Hadopi’s reports when they have no numbers on them.

        • Anonymous

          so everyone is happy right ?

        • OMGWTFBBQ

          Don’t we have numbers on the total amount of internet data moved in a country?
          Because if data usage hasn’t gone down or even up, people are still sharing, you just can’t see them.
          Strangely enough Google doesn’t want to tell me where to find this data…

    • Anonymous

      if all customers are sent to hell, who is left to buy the stuff?

    • Guest

      It does not matter how many fucking stupid and undemocratic law these corporate criminals passes, I will never go back to buy their shit period!

      As far as I am concern they crossed the line of decency a while ago, forgetting that I was holding the purse. Too Bad for them.

      If it was not for a bunch of idiots they would be dead by now. Fortunately this time will come.

    • h33t

      hadopi is all cost no benefit

      it is amazing that in a time of deep recession the MAFIAA lobby is strong enough to increase cost at the expense of real life services

      the tax euros spent on hadopi have been taken from government cut backs in schools, hospitals, police, welfare and social development causes

      media cartel parasites

      • Guest

        french miracle, there is always some public money to pretend to help old fat cats.

        • Christophe T.

          yeah it is the Frenchies – they have copyrighted cheese & wine – you have to be French to some extent to grasp this! Or “c est la vie” like the Frenchies say :)

      • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

        Actually, I can see a very clear and awesome benefit here. They managed to tackle piracy but the end result was a loss in their revenues. The natural course to the MAFIAA will be to ramp up the anti-piracy efforts, which, followed the trend, will lead to further decrease in the revenues. Given time, the net result of income minus expenses will be negative leading the MAFIAA to a slow and painful death from bleed. And we all know this is a good thing for culture and free speech. So yea, it’s 100% benefit. I think they should implement the 3-strikes rule everywhere and disconnect everybody. Chaos. Then we rebuild from where the old morons crashed.

    • Tsunku

      yes but hadopi is finding out that elba island is quickly filling up and running out of space for new exiles.

    • Rabid_wombat61

      problem is the same all over the world
      produce good music and movies
      people would buy them
      40 years ago we had 3 billion people
      we have 7 billion today
      there is only so much money and resourses to go around
      and every man jack wants to be a rock star or movies star
      the internet and all these instant one hit wonder shows are the problem
      today you can be ahit any where in the world for a feelting second
      40 years ago took weeks if not years to become famouse

      • Anon

        Problem is years ago talented people rose to the top and were (mis)represented by MAFIAA today they create the ‘talent’ and I guess most of us don’t agree with Simon Cowell.

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  • Gs Urmomma

    No piracy… no free word of mouth advertising…

  • Arbiter Pwner

    This is disgusting. Just one more nail in the coffin for the current copyright industry. How long will it take for them to realize that internet evolved file sharing to the point that nearly all game and music sales are done digital?

    • Guest

      How long? well… forever. They are going to continue to fight this for a long time to come, doing whatever they can in their feeble attempts to stop people. they will try to pass laws and continue to issue legal threats until the whole system is completely overhauled. the original system was built uneven, and continued changes to it have just made it more lop sided, and thus we have this total failure of a copyright system today.

  • Anom

    Can’t wait to see how much we can do in the next 10 years. Keep wasting all your time and money on trying to stop an unstoppable force, because you are not an immovable object.

  • Aadizcx

    people disconnected from internet cannot
    1) buy digital music
    2) google map to the nearest physical music store
    3) find a phone number online, and complain about their issue and become a legal customer

    Good job, hadopi

    • study

      It´s brutal truth that cut off pirates buy more and the other half (like me) dont have money to spend… so outcome is not surprise.

    • Anonymous

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  • Anonymous

    any sensible person would have realised this from the start. what this has done is actually reduce sales because people now dont download a movie to check it out and buy it if they think it’s any good. instead they just dont bother. it also goes to show that it has never had anything to do with sales. it’s always been about control. what the industries cant get into their heads is that when more and more restrictions are imposed on people, they respond by keeping their wallets firmly closed!

    • Anonymous

      Indeed. And their actions lead people like me to believe that piracy is not only justified, but a moral imperative. For one cent of my money to reach the pockets of anyone associated with these thugs would be unconscionable.

  • tiennou

    This report is obviously unbiaised, oh wait … (in french)
    http://www.pcworld.fr/2012/03/29/internet/hadopi/526305/
    http://www.zdnet.fr/actualites/les-petites-negligences-d-hadopi-pour-revendiquer-un-succes-39770118.htm
    To sum things up : the report omits technologies and the relevant comparison aswell as choosing adequate scale for graphics (logarithmic scale) for the sake of aestethics (bluring the real shape).

    • Anonymous

      More clearly it was Apple’s new technology and not Hapodi which lead to the increase in iTunes sales. The graphs clearly show a clear trend before and after Hadopi started.

      • Eurozapp

        What “new” technology from Apple?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PXX4S66KOUIGIKTTIMV3CBGO7Y Colin

      Interesting to note the PC World Fr graph shows no noticeable increase in the streaming gradient even as it shows a decline in p2p activity. So, the defence rests M’Lud.

  • SonOfStupid

    So under Adopi 3 strike laws in France The music business shrank by 3.9% and the movie by 2.7%.

    Are theses idiots going to repeat these on more countries pissing off more people and then run out of business?

    Yaaaaaaa! Do this! Please! It’s about time!

    By the way I don’t believe any of these claim about the efficacy of Adopi.

    These guys really can not keep up with the technology.

    Do they know that we have anonymous P2P and “ISP less” networks capability now?

  • Anonymous

    Seems like the world is in need for some smart people that have taken every course in collage…I wonder what would happen if the USA got a scholar for president…

    • James

      Would never happen. He’d be able to actually make sense and confuse all the stupid voters. They wouldn’t vote for him because they wouldn’t understand the big words he uses (more than 3 syllables). Media wouldn’t be able to quote him because they would be unable to cut his speeches in convenient 5 second sound bites.

      • guenthar martin

        If you were a scholar then you would know what to say to get the idiots to vote for you so you would get voted in because of that. Being smart doesn’t mean you are required to use “big words” and everything you say needs to go over the heads of people that are less educated then yourself.

  • Jimbo

    but who is saying that the three strikes law is what has slashed piracy, and is piracy actually slashed or just been said to be?

    • proof they can’t find proof

      they can’t know

      seedbox / vpn / usenet /proxy / ftp all have encrypted methods of transfer
      Even DPi is useless to detect that traffic content at isp level.

      they can’t know

  • radioman

    ..i just wonder what local darknets they use in france ;}

    • zero

      mypiratebox.com is growing fine :)

      • proof they can’t find proof

        Innovation strikes again : )

        Why can’t people learn….. not to learn outside of the rules imposed : )

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ender-Wiggin/100000885624281 Ender Wiggin

    seems likely everyone learned to proxy, or set up a vpn..

    • Somebody

      Not hard skills to learn, but people are just too lazy to bother until it’s really needed. (I’m one of them – just stupid but… meh)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Dilly/1624894683 Don Dilly

    The figures relating to the drop in piracy are themselves misleading.
    It only accounts for FRENCH piracy that is detectable.

    To be anywhere near meaningful it can only detect piracy for torrents and files specifically monitored and record against french IP addresses. This cant account for unmonitored files, those downloading from cyberlockers or using VPN .

    Mind you knowing these people, they probably just monitor traffic types at ISP gateways for torrent/ed2k use or accesing locker or torrent index sites and make the arrogant assumption that 95% of this traffic is infringing.

    It would be interesting if TF can get confirmation of the methodology used to arrive at the figures in their report.

    • Somebody

      Confirm what exactly? the ratio of the following statistics techniques used?
      a) Pulling figures out their asses
      b) Rolling dice
      c) finding an unrelated report in Google and changing the titles
      d) Asking irrelevant people, base the report on their opinions and quote them as gurus
      e) Dig out from under a bookcase an original report, change the dates and publish it as new

      On top of all these cook the figures to make your boss/shareholders happy

    • tonyj

      I doubt Hadopi used a community college teacher to provide their statistics.

  • Anon

    Thats pure bullshit, they said they reduce piracy, but Hadopi is based on P2P, the most use in France is Emule, and it’s simply that less and less people are using that, and that the Hadopi has stopped piracy.

    But remember ! To all the frenchies out there !! Vote Francois Hollande !! He’s a moron, but at least, is political party is against censorship, and was against Hadopi !

    So vote “against” Sarkozy.

    • Mwhahaha

      They’re all against anything until they get in. Haven’t you learned that yet?

      • whos standards

        France is not U.S ( but I see your point )

  • Anonymous

    I just noticed the sad face the tape makes with those dots.

  • John

    I can hardly think of a better point in favor of recognizing that current copyright legislation, perceptions and approaches are wrong than this.
    It’s their research and it proves that they’re wrong and hadopi itself proved that it’s either useless or actualy harmfull to sales as well.

    Let them spread these studies through the world so everyone can know what a waste of money and a useless sacrifice of freedoms such programs would be.

    • Astana

      It’s like oil and the car industry. Switching to a new technology is too much of a drag, so they’ll stick to it to the end, no matter what the cost in other terms (it would really take a world war or some cataclism to drive this one home, i guess). Lobbying and legislation tinkering is cheaper than changing a huge set system of doing things.

  • [Insert Username Here]

    Irrelevant: Ever since Megaupload was taken down has anyone noticed a massive increase of trolls or jokers on TorrentFreak? Originally we had MAFIAA trolls but now our own men have turned into a trolly :’(

    Relevant: I assume the decrease in piracy is due to an increase in VPN activity or using alternative methods to download rather than the public torrents or whatnot.

    • blurb

      yep…. 4 i am 1 such troll , we all are , YOU ARE ( you changed the topic )

      But to troll for our cause is what is important.
      We share ideas , insights , funnies and shocking stories HERE & on webz.
      We then take those everywhere else and disseminate.

      To troll or not to troll , that is the question

      Every pro copyright video on youtube…. fill up those comments with good points
      Don’t let their one-sided blog story go…. get it and crush it.
      Troll until the job is done.

      We have facts to troll with
      we can be funny
      we can crush a stupid argument `sometimes in trolly but thought provoking ways

      I say “to troll” is an answer (regardless.dicks b dickish….spammers b spammin )

  • Cam Smith

    Amazing , when an article comes out proving piracy does not have an effect on sales the trolls go into hiding and do not comment.

    LOL

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  • Guest

    According to the experts, there is no evidence that piracy has migrated to undetectable copying. No price is too great for that sort of mature wisdom.

    • Mwhahaha

      no evidence of something undetectable proves that it exists 100% surely?

      We invaded Iraq on similar logic.

      • OMGWTFBBQ

        I know that logic from somewhere… Oh yeah, religious people also use it.

        So if it works for that many people it must be a valid way of making an argument, they must have thought.

    • DannyUfonek

      no evidence of cancer ? evidence of no cancer
      even though people sometimes don’t differentiate between them.

  • http://twitter.com/Wasson_C Wasson_C

    I am never again going to buy or go to a movie ever again. They have had their chance to figure it out and now they are destroying the internet and fining my friends to keep and old outdated way of doing business. Good bye TV/Music/Movies I don’t care if I never see or hear any of it ever again. Excuse me while I go down to my local bar for some cool live music.

  • Seederman

    Merci, France, for showing us what we already knew: filesharing is not the root of the decline in music and movie sales. If anything, filesharing results in more sales, for more artists, many of whom would toil in utter obscurity if filesharing didn’t spread the word.

  • Mwhahaha

    Slashed detectable piracy in half perhaps. How many flash drives are shared around a group of friends there now rather than just all torrenting the same film etc?

  • Mwhahaha

    What I find most odd in all this affected sales argument that not once has, for example, there been a huge redundancy lighting riggers or prop makers from the film industry.

    When every other sector (almost) is showing job losses across the board due to the economic melt down, where are hollywood’s lost jobs that are apparently caused by people trying their shoddy product rather than buying blind after being unduly influenced by paid for reviews, selected poster quotes and 3 minute trailers where they put every half decent bit in from a terrible movie.

    • Mwhahaha

      *redundancy *of* lighting riggers

  • Mwhahaha

    btw… the french have a music industry?

    One of their very own?

    Wow.

  • Mwhahaha

    OK a valid point here (finally!)

    What are the figures for foreign (non french) films and CD sales.

    Just looking at French made media is utterly pointless in terms of sales for a single year, I’d imagine, like most countries they have a huge block of US made media sales. Have those risen or fallen in these years.

    There are a lot of angles on this story to examine.

  • Cheeseeater

    Perhaps a reason why music and movie sales are down is because most of the content offered is shit. Just saying.

    • Anonymous

      But if you listen to the likes of Bioware they are allowed to produce shit (Mass effect 3 ending) and we should just shut the fuck up and keep paying.
      Apparently we have no right to demand quality in what we pay for but they have a right to whine that media sales are down, go figure.

  • Vevyiou

    I boycott products. No damned way will I support a foe.

  • Desu75

    Probably got smart and went to VPNs. Of course they won’t detect the downloads.

  • C.D. Gaulle

    60% accounts for just me having DLed all I’ll ever need in 2010 :P

  • Bloaxor

    The 3.7/2.9% drops might also be contributed by people that now have to pay for a VPN, and then decided to say fuck it, and stop buying shit at all.

    • Bloaxor

      Keyword: “Might”, guess-work warning! :q

      • Anyone

        so the same source as all the numbers the MAFIAA ever presents

        • Bloaxor

          Except with less suing. ;p

  • FinnFag

    Torrentfreak and French people!

    You could try comparing the overall net traffic between 2010 – 2011. If the traffic remains the same or rises and there are no clear shifts to pay-per-view – then they are clearly bullshitting. If the internet piracy has truly fallen to half, we should see it in the net stats.

    If I remember correctly, the MAFIAA used net graph stats in Sweden to determine how much piracy has truly fallen. I didn’t see them here and I suspect there’s a reason.

    Comment…?

  • Qued

    Trolls are so stupid then ever now, people abused of offensed by their laws will never buy something in future , hey will join to piracy so what doing trolls now is suicide , and help piracy to growing ..keep going wood heards in few years you all shittyest humans will be gone …lol…keep in your mind … make more laws more laws to stop piracy , fight with millions people , do more abuses , keep promote commercial shit media more and more and you will see the result
    =>
    No sales , no advertising , boycott (becouse more and more people understand their money keeps you alive , people money is fuel for nightmare call media troll corporations and for that fact people stop to buying your products) , no money , anger people and finally your big failure
    And dont foget all of that already happen , this is just beginning , the first step of your ending

    Thats will be the future for all media troll corporations

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_IZ5BM5GNLA54OADSWGSXAMA7SY Jay

    The fact is… Joe Karaganis stated that if they cut down on piracy, they would cannabalize their sales. And yet the music industry still doesn’t listen… *sigh*

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  • Anonymous

    In other news; France’s VPN usage statistics have gone through the roof.

    • tonyj

      Any evidence?

      • Anonymous

        that’s the problem with no-questions-asked VPN’s. Anyway; piracy is decreasing, but sales are not increasing, so that money has to go somewhere. VPN’s are likely. World file sharing probably didn’t decrease.

        • tonyj

          That’s if you assume VPNs and piracy works in a vacuum. I think there will always be a small core group in the pirate community that are motivated and are more tech savvy than the majority of pirates. I could see a majority of the community panicking and stopping their practices because they don’t have the knowledge to get around restrictions or they are not the committed hard core but occasional pirate. What percentage this group hemorrhages pirates and new people take their place would be interesting to find out.

  • PRIVACY is priceless to me

    Any antipiracy law is stupid. You can’t stop the future, and you can cut my Internet connection I won’t buy any CD/BD or even _books_ anymore, I prefer to pay for actual _hardware_, not _software_ and I still say that the hardware sucks a lot because we still have slow Internet and small capacity hard drives, all of these courtesy of the fucking useless dinosaur movie/music industry!

  • Anon

    I have a RetroShare account trust me it’s really taking off in France.

  • Guest

    the french had the “ligne maginot” to stop the germans in 1939.. they now have hadopi to stop the progress of technology… it kills thousands of new business opportunities, but creates a few civil servant’s jobs…

    • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

      Quickest Godwin’s declaration ever!

      Seriously though…Are you implying that the Germans were trying to help France progress?

  • 92% of statistics are made up

    I have not bought any movie, music, TV show, computer game or software in over 20 years and I have no intention of starting, whatever laws you pass.
    How do you like those statistics?

    • Danny

      89% of people agree with your statement.

    • LinXitoW

      Im sorry, but thats extremely asocial. I can understand not wanting to fund the MAFIAA, but there are a lot of independent artists out there that are worth your money.

      If you are really just a freeloader, kindly impregnate yourself with a sideways hedgehog.

      • Anonymous

        We’ll it’s not worth infecting your computer with iTunes and not really worth the time having your local archive of music when you’ve got commercial free radio and other streaming services.

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  • Anonymous

    I dont get it man, that just makes no sense at all to me dude.
    Anon-Nets.tk

  • FuzzyDuck

    If Hadopi reduces the MAFIAA’s revenues, then surely it’s a good thing.

    Let’s stop pirating MAFIAA content, in fact let’s stop consuming their crap all together. Look for artists who embrace modern technology and share their work. Listen to and watch what they produce and support them if you can.

    Do your bit to let the old die and the new prosper.

  • Ahnon

    I think its a little early to tell whether the 3 strikes law was a success and whether or not that will impact sales. It is too short term to know.

    I think one of the goals of the MPAA is not tagetting this generation necessarily (of course, none of us will buy more music and movies if our internet is blocked), but next generations (our children and theirs, etc). Think about it; for the next generations they might be blocked from sites where media can be found for free, thus they might buy more, as we once did before the early days of the internet.

    I think it is therefore too premature to conclude anything about long-term effects of any of these laws. One thing for sure is that I will teach my children know about the censorship of the internet and the perpetrators (MPAA, ect) and hope that they too boycott these mofos as much as possible. We need to start teaching this in schools! :)

    • Guest

      Comon, this new generation will never have the financial means to increase their spending that way, they’ll go for free stuff anyhow. it’s already largely the case to some extent

  • http://needforair.com/ Louis Chatriot

    The real failure of the big labels is their refusal to embrace these technological changes. The result is that they provide a downloading service that is worse than the free and illegal counterpart. Yet they still expect people to buy DVDs laden with anti-piracy ads, instead of providing a nice subscription based streaming/downloading service.

    Most of all, they fail to see that people still want to pay for the content they love. But people don’t like being screwed …

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  • http://twitter.com/kolinko Tomasz Kolinko

    drop in revenue in France in 2011 means nothing unless you compare it to the previous years. If in 2010 their revenues were falling 10%, and in 2011 it’s “just” 2%, then it would mean that slashing piracy had a positive effect

    • http://twitter.com/kolinko Tomasz Kolinko

      Also, VOD downloads increased 50% in 2011. My bet is that it’s because of the more titles available, but this could be influenced by lesser piracy.

  • Fgfgfhghg

    i told you all let em have htere stupid laws we needed it so we have proof

  • http://twitter.com/tueksta Andreas Beer

    comparing revenues and other indicators during paradigm-shifting times is pure speculation and/or politics. stop doing it, neither pro nor contra “piracy”. 2011 is not comparable to 2010, and 2010 is not comparable to 2009. the whole game has shifted, don’t look back, look forward. there’s a bright future ahead.

    • Anonymous

      Well the MAFIAA clearly don’t know what you’re talking about and TF states:
      “If we follow the logic employed by the anti-piracy lobby …”

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  • http://modmyi.com/forums/iphone-4-new-skins-themes-launches/740147-neurotech-hd.html#post5637502 Jay

    Didn’t the French spend like $2 million or more to iTunes in order to offset the ‘losses’, and to stay on Apple’s good side? I remember something like that. So, they attack file sharing, artificially inflate digital download numbers, and then use those numbers as proof their anti-file-sharing laws are working to increase sales.

    That is some absurdly corrupt behavior.

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  • Andy Zhang

    There’s this crazy thing called substitution. Then again, do the French believe in economics?

    • http://twitter.com/arculeo Adrien Arculeo

      Short answer from the inside : Sorry I don’t understand : “Economics”? What’s that?

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  • Anonymous

    There’s a reason they’re going after file storage services…

    The piracy in France shifted towards those services so that downloaders wouldn’t be as easily tracked as they are on p2p networks. So while p2p transfers are down, they have still been able to share and download content.

    It’s almost time for the darknets – where uploaders, downloaders and relays (“mere conduits”) are indistiguishable from one another.

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      One word: Freenet. All it needs is improvements in downloading speed and bandwidth usage.

      • http://twitter.com/arculeo Adrien Arculeo

        Most people I know encrypt their P2P communication so it is confidential, and legally out of reach of your ISP and Hadopi.

        Less complicated than a VPN.

        • Anonymous

          Unfortunately, it doesn’t stop your IP address and the torrent’s hash being associated with each other when a tracker is scraped for peers.

          Personally, I think the prosecution, if making a claim of an infringing transaction – should be required to identify both the sender and recipient of the data. Otherwise they have no guarantee that the presumed downloader isn’t exercising “fair use” or acting under any other mitigating circumstances.

          If they cannot provide this information, they do not have proof of any actual lost revenue.

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  • Jo

    how is this not collusion and violation of anti-competition practices???

    • http://twitter.com/arculeo Adrien Arculeo

      Yes it is. But if the law maker and the product seller are on the same side. The “anti-competition practices” jut has to be redefined as “piracy”. It doesn’t cost a dime to the tax payer, the law will be written directly by some law department of some big company.

  • http://twitter.com/arculeo Adrien Arculeo

    It is weird to see a lot of clichés comment in here. There is one thing you need to understand. France never cut the rope to monarchy. We just elect our king and court every 5 years and call them president and parliament.

    Really powerful people, stay for decades – or centuries for some aristocrats which families got rich financing the first crusades around year 1100 – They own newspapers and televisions besides their industries.

    They tell people who to elect for president next April and they are repaid in kind by the new president. Borrow money on the market, buy stuff from the industries and make laws to protect what government can’t buy. Fair trade!

    Remember that in France their is no such thing as an Habeas Corpus so no such thing as a warrant to enter your house or internet connection which you don’t own but rent thus nobody cares about your opinion. And the whole Hadopi administration is a whopping 60 people. Much less expensive that … the TSA, for instance.

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  • Frogspawn

    Sure use a VPN but my advice is DO NOT use Hide My ASS they co-operated with the feds ‘upholding UK law’ so if a US citizen dont expect them to protect you, my advice use a VPN with a less ass kissing extradition treaty to US

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  • cat

    “If we follow the logic employed by the anti-piracy lobby during the past decade, this means that piracy is actually boosting sales.

    But that would be a silly conclusion wouldn’t it?”

    Actually it’s not silly at all. Some people pirate as a way of replacing the nearly-extinct concept of “try before you buy.” And a lot of these people will simply choose not to buy things if they can’t make sure what they’re buying is what they want.

    There have been studies showing that some degree of piracy actually does help sales. But I’m not sure I buy the report anyway – there are plenty of ways to file share that are hard or impossible to trace, and governments are usually 5 steps behind pirates.

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    Reducing piracy is a pretty good way to kill “long tail” creative industries. People have only finite money to buy entertainment, so if they can’t pirate anything, they’ll tend to buy “must haves”, the same core media which everyone buys. I bet sales of Hollywood’s DVDs have picked up in France, for example.
    But with only so much discretionary income, the long tail – independent musician, local cinema, less aggressively marketed films – all lose out. Permitting piracy of the mainstream is likely to move people’s spending towards more obscure art. I wonder whether any country would ever summon the courage to defy the US’s position on IP on those economic grounds.

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  • Astana

    “In France the controversial “graduated response” law (Hadopi) has evaporated unauthorized file-sharing.”

    Judging by the number of french peers in my emule it hasn’t evaporated anything at all. So very useless.

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    Then why is OVH in France? If you know what they provide, you can see the 3 strikes rule is BS. The main thing though, is if the copyright cartel thinks it works. “Hey, you got your 3 strikes rule, piracy is gone. No, you can’t have any more legislation.”

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