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Government To Block Sharing Sites, But Music Biz Must Cut Prices

As the phenomena of blocking file-sharing sites continues to spread around the world, the government of Indonesia is tackling the issue from two directions. Alongside an announcement confirming that ISP blocks will be put in place against some of the most popular file-hosting services, record labels are also being told they need to reduce prices in order to deter piracy.

In the United States, United Kingdom and parts of Europe, there is an increasing momentum from the copyright lobby in favor of legislation which allows for the blocking of file-sharing sites at the ISP level.

Where new laws prove politically dangerous, the big entertainment companies are seeking voluntary agreements with ISPs to achieve the same end result.

In the regions mentioned above these developments have been expected for some time, but in recent months this phenomenon has been spreading to countries not historically associated with an aggressive anti-piracy stance. Following Malaysia and India, now comes Indonesia.

Two years ago Indonesia was placed on a priority watch list for failing to protect US intellectual property rights. At the end of last month the government warned that it was preparing a response to music piracy online. Yesterday, Minister of Communications and Information Tifatul Sembiring confirmed what that response would be.

“The plan is to block famous sites, like 4shared for example,” the minister announced.

4shared is a popular file-hosting cyberlocker service. According to its operators Indonesia is its 3rd most-popular region after United States and Brazil. Malaysia, where it has thus far managed to stay unblocked, takes 4th spot. 4shared also remains uncensored in Google’s auto-complete feature.

In a 27th July announcement the Ministry of Communications and Information said the music industry would compile a list of sites “offering illegal content that need to be blocked”. So far the majority are local services.

Indonesia began blocking pornographic content on the Internet last year and it now appears those same systems will be used to censor file-hosting services such as 4shared.

Local operators who breach copyright law face sanctions under the 2002 Law on Copyrights and the 2008 Law on Information and Electronic Transactions. Punishments range from a $115 fine to a jail sentence of up to 9 years.

Indonesia is the world’s fourth most populous country with close to 240 million citizens and the government has been touting some equally large music piracy stats – 240 million songs downloaded per day. Although that sounds like one song per citizen per day, only 45 million Indonesians have Internet access, which means in this scenario they each have to download 5 to 6 tracks each per day.

As always, the stats are recoding industry supplied and impossible to confirm but they say the above is costing them $1.4 billion per year.

While it is taking action against sites, the government has also indicated that it wants the music industry to do more to encourage people to buy legitimate products. Among the suggestions are labels cutting the price they charge for music and making it easier for customers to pay for content, such as via their mobile phone bills.

Another interesting suggestion is for the labels, ISPs and file-hosting sites to team up and sell music to customers. Let’s hope they don’t try that after they’ve blocked the sites at the ISP level.

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  • Lulz

    So what happens if the industry doesn’t lower it’s prices?… NOTHING, and pirates continue to pirate regardless. Oh the lulz of crap…

    • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

      Yes. But you’ll see more buying. Once you get your prices down more ppl are able to buy and some ppl are able to buy more than they would. It’s a win/win. But the discovery and try-before-buy from “online piracy” (lol?) will NOT stop =)

      Still, it’s lulz for sure.

      • Ven

        It’s a lose-lose really, because they can’t lower prices online without people proxying themselves into the country to purchase legit legal copies of the music.

        I don’t see the industries budging on that one.

    • http://otester.myopenid.com/ PiRat

      It’s about getting a censorship grid in place, not piracy.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LFGMKCNKR5T62C3EI7ULFBJK6E Mighty Thor

        We will have to stand together against big corporations and governments that cater to them.

        We should all be preparing for this, because like in the past where people had to get together and remove the weight that crushes them (metamorphically speaking), so too will we have to do the same in the not too distant future.

        If you haven’t heard the old adage “evil will triumph when the good person does nothing”, well then, you just have!

        http://www.LittleScroll.com

  • puddipuddi

    meh, I think it’s too late for them. They’re not gonna start buying music all of a sudden. Come to think of it, I don’t see how anyone would just start buying music all of a sudden. I support the music I love by seeing them perform live and buying their merch. Fuck CD’s.

  • Acce

    What the fück, they blocked pr0n? And what the fück is this bullshit 1.4 billion dollar imaginary loss? Everywhere in asia, you can find counterfeit stuff in the streets, at least now the folks there don’t have to pay for counterfeit goods.

  • Him

    yet again the numbers touted by the entertainment industries are being accepted, without question and without any independent research being taken into account. it has been proven that there are plenty of ways around the site blocking anyway. but why should people have to do any of this? the main way for these industries to fight ‘file sharing’ is to compete with it, not by blocking sites, suing people or disconnecting them from the internet. all they want to do is control the people and the internet, not come into the digital age. but then, i am trying to bring some sense into the problem

  • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

    Considering 4shared is used for legitimate means, they should block the entire internet since you can ‘pirate’ stuff using your e-mail, your messengers (that support file sharing), video sites, blogs… Not to mention the internet is for p0rn. Have I mentioned Indonesia should shut down the internet?

    • Jimbo

      i am quite sure that after consulting with the USA, that is exactly what they will try to do. after all Indonesia is on the priority watch list for failing to protect US intellectual property rights!

    • Jimbo

      i am quite sure that after consulting with the USA, that is exactly what they will try to do. after all Indonesia is on the priority watch list for failing to protect US intellectual property rights!

      • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

        That’s why I love Canada. The US put them on the watch list and they showed a big fat middle finger to the US. Of course they have the power to close some valves on some oil/gas pipelines and add some chaos to the US but that’s just minor detail….

        Think of the American P0rn Stars! I mean, think of the children!

    • http://twitter.com/xRDVx xRDVx

      Even if the messengers don’t support sending/receiving files, if you open something with notepad, I’m pretty sure you can copy/pasta that through chat. Then again, it would be tiresome and slow (unless somebody makes an automated script for that).

      As long as it sends text, it can be used to send files.

  • Anonymous

    Dropbox would be the next thing to go. These people are letting an already out of control situation get more ridiculously out of control

  • ChroniclyYours

    Why don’t these anti piracy groups go try to force their laws on the people in Egypt… Im sure the whole anti piracy mess would stop as the groups would never again emerge from the country… alive…

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002639684444 Ryan Smith

    What do they base this idea on?
    Did someone randomly pull “lower prices will end piracy” out of their ass?

    This plan is in total opposition of evidence which says that increased sales coincides with increased file-sharing.

  • Anonymous

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    • Dev/Null

      Thank you for spamming…moron.

      Flagged

    • http://tinyurl.com/ANoiXioNA-personal-info ANoiXioNA

      yea…. “” Here is a very nice co-mmunity“”

      Spammers are not welcome here….. nor do they go unnoticed…. flagged

    • gae

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    • gae

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  • Foff

    It is funny that in Indonesia they block porn but but 12-14 year old prostitutes abound. They think nothing of young girls dancing naked on stage but they must block the evil porn on the internet. I guess it would not be so evil if people in that country were making money off of it like all the strip clubs.

    By the way it is not just price that is the problem. It is selection and quality. I could not begin to find a small percentage of the stuff on legitimate services that I can can find on pirate sites. I don’t give a rat’s a about the artists. They have been too lazy for too long. If they want to make money they can work hard and do tours and make money the old fashioned way. Not just sit on their coked out a$$es and collect big advances from the recording industry.

    • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

      “I don’t give a rat’s a about the artists.” Neither does the MAFIAA.

  • Ramza81

    Actually they need to take care about the life quality here first before announcing something like this.

    The porn block is super fail too. They will block anything with ‘gay’ in it even though it’s not a porn site, yet a normal porn site still can be accessed normally.

    The movie tax is super fail too. They said the reason they change the tax is to avoid monopoly. Yet, there’s only 1 company that is ‘allowed’ to import MPAA movies.

    That Tifa fool is super stupid. He also plan to censor facebook and twitter (not block them) so some sensitive topic can be put off from the net (like people criticize him for every stupid move).

    He also will try/is trying to control cloud storage…………..

  • Ramza81

    Actually they need to take care about the life quality here first before announcing something like this.

    The porn block is super fail too. They will block anything with ‘gay’ in it even though it’s not a porn site, yet a normal porn site still can be accessed normally.

    The movie tax is super fail too. They said the reason they change the tax is to avoid monopoly. Yet, there’s only 1 company that is ‘allowed’ to import MPAA movies.

    That Tifa fool is super stupid. He also plan to censor facebook and twitter (not block them) so some sensitive topic can be put off from the net (like people criticize him for every stupid move).

    He also will try/is trying to control cloud storage…………..

  • Anon

    I am ashamed to admit but yes I am a pirate too :(

    • Gg

      Really? ur ashamed? im a pirate and proud of it, I even recently created a ddl site, just to stick it to these trolls,

      I wish I had the skills of lulz sec then I could do some real damage to these ass wipes

      • Anon

        I wish I had the money to buy all the movies I wanted, I really do. I am a huge movie buff but I am just a student and don’t earn enough to buy every movie on DVD.

        • Friend of the People

          Yeah, tough situation. Don’t feel too bad about it. Piracy may not necessarily be right, but you aren’t causing anyone any direct harm, so it’s not something that you should be ashamed of. Hope you get enough to be able to pay in the future.

        • Anon

          Thank you friend. You made me feel a lot better. I’ll definitely try to buy more after I complete education and manage to get a full time job.

  • Anon

    I am ashamed to admit but yes I am a pirate too :(

  • Gg

    My guess is these ppl didn’t see the report from yesterday, my routers dns is set to use opendns, these means everyone on my network wont be affected by any isp block, and they wont even have to change any settings on any of their pc’s.

    Ooh the futility of these trolls

  • Anonymous

    Should be interesting to see how that all turns out. Wow.
    real-anonymity.us.tc

    • DANNY

      fu<k off and spam some where else!!

  • DANNY

    when a movie starts and i see warner,sony,paramount and viacom, im just happy that they let me know who i got a free movie from as i will never give these parasites 0.00$,

    Yieaaaarrr I’m a pirate and proud of it!!! proxy,vpn yawn!!!

  • Flix

    filestube..forever

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  • Jon7272

    all those 45 mill people with internet are all rich enough in indonesa to afford music plastic discs. do they realy think they can buy music. food and housing maybe more important me thinks . vpn instead of plastic discs lol

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alexi-Karas/100000552891436 Alexi Karas

    Wait, what? costs them 1.4 billion a year, for ….. ~240m* 365 songs downloaded? that’s <.016 dollars per track. How are they justifying the damages claimed in other countries? Does piracy cost them less depending where in the world it's done? Curious on the reasoning here…..

    • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

      MAFIAA is not well known for presenting sensible and coherent data. Some of their studies suggested in Australia recently that they were losing more than the GDP of the country.

      Fail comes to mind. ;)

      • I am Spock

        MAFIAA is not well known for there understanding of MATHS, seems to me they are using some wacked algebraic equation that they created to make up these numbers!!
        Me thinks they are using Steve Jobs reality distortion field, so they dont have to face the truth!!

        Share long, and prosper!! ®

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  • Per

    As interesting as this is, it’s not always about the money. It’s about availability, technology, quality and usability. Why bother to use a music download/purchase service that’s low-priced when you are required to download their “bloatware” application and/or use their ugly-ass slow/unusable web services (with DRM and all that).

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  • Yomama

    I think the whole internet should be blocked, that’ll fix it.

    • Winning

      lol yomama, I love the satire :)

  • Yomama

    I think the whole internet should be blocked, that’ll fix it.

  • AndrewsBASE

    if you are at all serious about a career in the music industry you need to read this article, it is incredible http://bit.ly/p1DEym

  • Fail

    you can rip music from any streaming source whether it’s something as simple as recording your computers sound output or ripping the music from the stream itself to preserve quality, it’s already painfully easy to do this to youtube/pandora/last.fm and any radio site or music streaming sites, basically what I’m saying is, If you can hear it, without paying for it, you can pirate it.

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