Inside the Mind of a 9 Year Old File-Sharer
Written by enigmax on October 21, 2007Everyone knows that a significant number of file-sharers are teenagers and young adults and they get their share of press. But what about the true kids - the under 10’s ? TorrentFreak makes itself feel old trying to keep up with the agile mind of a 9 year old file-sharer.
Like most publications, here at TorrentFreak we regularly interview adults. However, when a recent conversation with a child turned to file-sharing, we took the opportunity to give the P2P kids a voice. We had a little chat with a 9 year old girl who wants to be called “Hannah” (after Hannah Montana) and she talks to us about LimeWire, BEBO, YouTube and her perception of the rights and wrongs of copying - even her frustrations with DRM.
“Never work with children or animals” said WC Fields. TorrentFreak takes a chance:
TF. Hi Hannah! How old are you?
- I’m 10 in 12 days
TF. What sort of music are you listening to right now?
Sean Kingstone, Shayne Ward and High School Musical 2
TF. Where did you first get into music?
- On the music channels, on MTV.
TF. When did you get a PC?
- People had computers but I couldn’t go on them but my Dad bought me one last year. I have internet.
TF. What do you do on the internet?
- MSN, talking to friends and cousins, games and dressing-up games [dolls]
TF. When did you first start using the internet to get music?
- My cousin showed me YouTube and then LimeWire and I was like “whoa cool!”
TF. What was cool about it?
- Because you can put anything in and it will come up and you don’t actually pay for it. Well you have to pay for the internet and LimeWire comes with the internet but you have to pay for that so LimeWire isn’t really free.
TF. Ok…I see….Do you get music from anywhere else?
- My cousin gets it from BEBO. She copies it from other people’s pages and puts it on her own.
TF. Do you think it’s ok to copy the music?
- Yes it’s ok because she only does it to make her page better.
TF. So you’re sure that it’s ok to copy it? What do you think about copying?
- I suppose it’s not ok to copy but people copied it off her site so she just copies theirs. It’s like, you’re copying my t-shirt so i’m copying you on shoes.
TF. Ok, so a bit like copying school work?….Hmm….ok, let’s talk about copying on the computer again. When you started using LimeWire, did anyone ever mention that if you did certain things you might be breaking some laws?
- Why would they put it [music] on the internet and invent mp3 players if it was against the law?
TF. Confusing isn’t it?….You mentioned you like Sean Kingstone - what if I told you that Sean Kingstone’s boss might send you a letter asking for money because you shared his album on LimeWire? What would you say to him?
- W.E! [whatever!]
TF. Come on, play along with me. What would you say if he did?
- I’d say “tooooo strict!” and anyway he can’t make me do anything. He’s not the boss of me, he’s the boss of Sean Kingstone.
TF. What do you think might happen if you didn’t pay him?
- Nothing. I’m too young to be charged by the government so he can’t charge me.
TF. Would you carry on using LimeWire after he sent the letter?
- Yeah!
TF. Why?
- Because you can get good albums off there. Duh!! My CD’s don’t work in my mp3 player so LimeWire is the only way to do it. I bought High School Musical 2 on CD but it won’t go on my mp3 [player]
TF. How would you make LimeWire better?
- To speak to the person sending the music to make sure they send the right one, sometimes they send stuff that doesn’t even play.
TF. Do you know what a pirate is?
- They have parrots [effects 'arrrrr']
TF. Do you think its legal or illegal to copy a CD or DVD?
- Some men right, they sell you a DVD at the market but when you get home it doesn’t play, that’s illegal.
TF. Why is it illegal?
- Duh!! Because they tell you it works and when you get it home it’s rubbish and jumps in the middle and its a waste of money!
TF. Do you think you should be paying for stuff off LimeWire? You have to buy CD’s from the shop…
- You have to pay for CD’s because they’re actually on a disc not on the computer. My cousin, right, she uses LimeWire when she doesn’t have any money for CDs.
TF. Did you ever download anything by anybody and then go to see them?
- I got stuff by Lee Ryan and Simon Webbe and then I went to see Blue. Why don’t you ask me what my favorite hobby is?
TF. Ok, what’s your favorite hobby?
- Dancing to music, it’s fun!!
Thankyou, Hannah. That’s it! Have a nice birthday!
Previously: ShareTV Evolves Into a TV Torrent Community
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250 Responses
OK! ;)
Uh-huh…
That’s cute. But, the wrong ideas are being installed into our kids’ harddrives.
You would never get some of those awnsers if you were tlaking to an adult or even a teenger. this ones especially good:
‘Why would they put it [music] on the internet and invent mp3 players if it was against the law?’
“From the mouths of babes” I guess. However, I wouldn’t go around supporting my stance on copyright law by using an interview with a 10 year old =) .
WHAT WAS THE POINT OF THIS?
YOU SOUND LIKE A CHILD MOLESTER TF.
LMAO too right, Hannah
good one about Seans boss
I wanna parrot:’(
Happy Bday xoxox TorrentFreakLover3211
She’s not 9, she’s a 50 year old fat man :P
> You would never get some of those
> awnsers if you were tlaking to an
> adult or even a teenger. this ones
> especially good:
>> ‘Why would they put it [music] on
>> the internet and invent mp3 players
>> if it was against the law?’
I’m a big proponent of illegal pirating (stealing) of electronic data, I will get what I want, when I want it, on my own terms.
However, That a child wants this too, doesn’t justify it. I don’t understand the point of this article.
[quote comment="191595"]WHAT WAS THE POINT OF THIS?
YOU SOUND LIKE A CHILD MOLESTER TF.[/quote]
Lulz
She sounds sassy. :p
It’s interesting to see the logic of a 9 y.o. make more sense than RIAA.
slow news day?
ummm wtf?
I agree with torrentpirate, I too don’t see much point in this article. Quite frankly I would have answered the 11th question in the same manner but I would have phrased it differently.
And about government they may not be able to sue the kid but the same can’t be said for the parent since people are making new ways to sue other people everyday age means very little, so you never know. (I am pretty sure the government already knows that there are kids below the age of 18 or 10 that are also participating in this illegal act.)
The point of the article is the RIAA is screwed. The future generations will ensure the RIAA gets put out of business do to their already free mindset of how music is meant to be.
[quote comment="191595"]WHAT WAS THE POINT OF THIS?
YOU SOUND LIKE A CHILD MOLESTER TF.[/quote]
Wow sounds like you have been watching to much tv propaganda.
But on to the point of the story.
Is to give you and Idea of how kids think about file trading.
In case you’ve forgotten how you thought when you were that age.
I started file trading when I was 12 and my thought process was the same.
Legal or not it got me what I wanted when I wanted for the price that a 12 year old could afford.
Which was zero.
I think the child molest TR XD
> My cousin, right, she uses LimeWire > when she doesn’t have any money for CDs.
Why, cuz you’re buying shoes instead? Only if shoes could fit inside an iPod.
This doesnt sound like a 9 year old, I call bullshit
Attempt #69 (to make my post clean enough for a 9 year old):
I am going to use the example of illegal drugs to make my point, regarding hannah here. When I was young, someone offered me a joint, I tried it and liked it. (Sharing is fun)
I smoked the occasional J after that, and eventually wanted to get my own supply. The people I asked initially were scary, and sold me junk that sometimes wasn’t what I asked for. (Like Kazaa or Limewire)
I eventually got smarter friends, who cared about me and pointed me to my first real grower. (Torrents)
I am a huge proponant of the black market; I think it’s interesting as hell, and it speaks very largely about problems in our community. There exists a demand by the people, a great number of people who outnumber those who oppose and enforce it’s restriction.
You can say what you want here to excuse it, corporate gain/influence, antiquated laws/lawmakers or even political sway. The real problem is that not enough of the majority are given control of the system.
This was a good Blog Post man, keep the good ideas coming.
Take a look at your local Craigslist sometime, see what people are “selling” on there.
You’ll see what I mean :D
I actually thought the article was interesting. The answers are basically simplified answers an adult would give.
I think there are more and more kids sharing music mainly, although not bit torrent so much.. People file sharing at such young ages are adopting different views on it then people at an older age.
This could be a major advantage for the future of file sharing.
I think it was rather cute, and I have to agree with her.
I think this article is to just point out how someone who doesn’t understand politics and economics and copyright bull sees the world, and how things should be.
Why SHOULD we buy MP3 players if we can’t use MP3s on them? Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think we should break the law just because it’s wrong. We just need to change it. Instead of saying “LOL copyright iz stoopid pirate yar yar yar”, you need to talk to your representatives about repealing the DMCA and other painfully restrictive laws.
I got a lot out of this article. If you didn’t, that’s your problem.
This was a pretty pointless and stupid article.
Was this interview done via IM or phone or in person…?
try interviewing a smart 9 year old next time
This is why kids should be supervised more. Im not saying that i dont download music. But i understand that i am taking a risk and essentially steeling from the authors. This girl doesnt even realise were this stuff comes from. Her parents should be mroe involved and making sure that she isnt going to cost them there home or at least to teach her right from wrong. Plus why does the opinion of a 9 year old matter. She doesnt even know what that music is about she is just responding to current trends that are forced down her throat. A 9 year old with the internet blindly downloading is not a good idea.
“- Because you can put anything in and it will come up and you don’t actually pay for it. Well you have to pay for the internet and LimeWire comes with the internet but you have to pay for that so LimeWire isn’t really free.”
LMAO. Thats one damn smart 9 year old.
copying 1s and 0s is not the same as stealing physical products from a store. it doesn’t require any extra physical or labor resources to produce a digital copy of a piece of information. eating at a restaurant without paying is wrong, because food and cooking have irreplaceable value.
if hollywood wants to go after someone, they should pick on libraries.
I hope she gets killed.
That is the fakest interview i’ve ever read.
I really enjoyed this article. It gives you idea into the mind of a simpler generation.
It was cute, and I had a few laughs because the answers, at least to me, sounds pretty innocent.
Now if she only knew the darker side of file sharing. The world of lawsuits and homes lost and college funds drained..ah yes, welcome to reality. *shudders*
LOL, awesome, do more interviews like this XD
Im 16 and i use limewire! fuck lawsss
I personally think it’s wonderful to see kids interested in technology. Even in there younger ages. Copyright issues are just not-as responsive to kids too than from adults. And besides it’s been proved that a child under the age of 10 can’t break the law. Even if it does goto court. It would be for the parents like someone stated above. And personally i think there should be no copyright laws. Try and lean toward a free technology market. It would be best if we did. It would allow the world to develop a economy freely to that of a business. In turn even the middle man can make money.
This is why America is dying. Stupid freaking kids are being raised with horribly skewed, material-based opinions on what is right and wrong. Parents need to get a grip on their kids.
come on people this is funny, thats the point…to make you laugh. you all are to serious. obviously if torrent freak interviews a nine year old (almost ten!), then there trying to make you laugh!
I think #19 Shaze’s staement: “The real problem is that not enough of the majority are given control of the system.” —–is correct.
I’ve supported every musician and actor of most every torrent I’ve ever used.
I’ve seen them live, bought t-shirts, Vinyl records, tape cassettes, CD’s, b-sides…. I go to the movies and pay my $10+ to see them in theaters, pay for cable tv, rent movies and buy movies… I’ve lived through the beginning of cable tv, satellite tv, beta-maxs, laser disk, vcr’s, and now DVD players and streaming media…
I’ve collected music since I was 10 years old, and saw as many movies as possible since I was 8…
I think I’ve payed my dues…
I barely make a living in America at $10 - $12 bucks an hour… and I’ve spent so much of that on $20 CD’s and $10 movies, monthly cable, and the devices to play movies and music… plus, I’ve sat through 34 years of the advertising that comes packaged along side of the art…
This has nothing to with the artist. I will always support the artist. I just don’t want to support someone else leeching off of the artist, that might not even like the artist.
I respect what Radiohead and Prince have been doing and hope more artists release their material like that, with the option to pay for it, or not pay for it.
To finish this, I have looked at my music collection that I have downloaded using torrents, and 90% of them are albums, cassettes, and CD’s that I have owned… sometimes more than once.
Music gets ruined, CD’s and records scratched, tapes eaten. The way I see it, I’ve already paid for the music rites (sometimes more than twice), and now that there is a way to get music that doesn’t need a physical medium with all of the packaging like a CD, Tape, or Record… it’s not really pirating.
That is such bullshit, no ten year old talks like that. I’ve got two of them. They’re online all the time.
Generation Q
Fake.
A pirates life for me…
Cute interview. Made me smile.
so fake
sad. very sad.
Wow, how poorly misguided that child is.
“Because you can get good albums off there. Duh!! My CD’s don’t work in my mp3 player so LimeWire is the only way to do it. I bought High School Musical 2 on CD but it won’t go on my mp3 [player]”
You’d think that somebody who knows how to use Limewire is smart enough to convert CD files and put them on an mp3 player.
Then again, this is a 9-year-old who thinks “whatever” will get her out of a lawsuit.
Hi, I’m Chris Hansen would you please take a seat. No, no, just take a seat. So, Mr the Torrent Freak what’s up with these talks with little girls?
i want my money(songs) bee itch
I also have to draw on skepticism here…some of the responses seem so generic.
you should try an interview with a teenager. more like 15-18 year old, who has a firmer grasp of the whole conception
This perfectly describes the thought process of some of the girls I know from high school, some of the teachers even. One time we had a teacher tell us Napster was illegal because it stole music from computers that did not have Napster installed. I will give 3 cheers for the fact that there is a 9 year old pirate, even if she is using limewire.
Someone get this girl iTunes. And then school her in how to use a damn computer.
Can’t get songs from a CD onto an MP3 player…?
I weep for the future of geekdom.
Where’s my belt?
Cuz…
I enjoyed and agree with your post.
FAKE
I enjoyed reading this interview, it goes to show just how big an influence technology is on children. It is up to the parents of this child to understand what she is doing on the internet and to teach her right and wrong.
Goes to show how out of touch parents of today are.
True or false, the idea of interviewing different users of Torrents and Filesharing it’s very good. In psychology we do something alike, called the study of “social representations”.
So, for those who say “pointless arcticle”, die off XD.
A Chris Hansen reference, it had to happen.
Pictures or it didn’t happen.
Poah what a crap.
Sure, this was told you by a 10 year old… Not invented by your imagination.
Stop crap like this please, become a serious information portal again.
Its sad when a kid this young is using limewire without realizing the possible repercusions on her family. I hate the record companies to, so I try to support bands more indirectly (after all, its not like any money I spend at a store will actually go to a band).
I find this article interesting. Especially when she says:
“- To speak to the person sending the music to make sure they send the right one, sometimes they send stuff that doesn’t even play.”
The way she talks about downloading as people sendning her files. Never looked at it like that myself :D
“I bought High School Musical 2 on CD but it won’t go on my mp3″
This comment made me giggle a bit.
This is great. TF is documenting a before and after case. Keep us up to date TF and let’s see how her life turns upside down after her first RIAA lawsuit.
tests show kids generally have higher iq than older people… its just that they know less info… nice post..
cute
This is a great artilce. I’ve read most of the comments and I agree with many that it shows the views of someone that has very little to no knowledge of the government and its rules/laws ect. If you pay attention, anyone that thinks this article is pointless or that the opinion doesn’t matter, can’t even present proper grammar. As soon as we get intellignent people commenting and sharing their opinions on interviews like these, we may know the true view of America on important points like the article.
I am sure that there are many people older than her will answer stupid answers because simply they lack of the knowledge of technology not because they are stupid .
Interview seems fake
this testimony was fabricated or coerced, cute tho.
makes me hate the RIAA more.
[quote]- I suppose it’s not ok to copy but people copied it off her site so she just copies theirs. It’s like, you’re copying my t-shirt so i’m copying you on shoes.[/quote]wow, nice analogy. that’s the worst bunch of crap i’ve ever heard…
The interview seems incredibly fake.
My 6 year old knows that not all pirates have parrots :P
What would a 9 year old know about paying for internet access anyway?
Idiotic child. A near 10 year old shouldn’t already be exposed to limewire, you should wait a few more years. When these types of ideas get planted into childrens heads, they’ll have trouble going through life.
This does not seem to conform to the normal speech patterns of a 10 year old. I would be hesitant to consider this article authentic.
[quote]TF. How would you make LimeWire better?
- To speak to the person sending the music to make sure they send the right one, sometimes they send stuff that doesn’t even play.[/quote]
Her PC is riddled with trojans then…
[quote comment="191724"]This is why America is dying. Stupid freaking kids are being raised with horribly skewed, material-based opinions on what is right and wrong. Parents need to get a grip on their kids.[/quote]
I don’t think she’s American; judging by the fact that she likes Shayne Ward and Blue, I’d say she’s probably British.
[quote comment="191875"]I don’t think she’s American; judging by the fact that she likes Shayne Ward and Blue, I’d say she’s probably British.[/quote]
British seems to fit with some of it, but “not the boss of me” is more of an american phrase.
limewire sucks! long live torrents
It’s “Kingston” not “Kingstone”
Misspellings are annoying
What 10 year old American kid do you know that says ‘rubbish’. She’s English.
Kids of this generation are already downloading music. I think that’s the point of this article.
There again when I was her age I used to sit and listen to the radio and tape all the songs I liked or make copies of cassettes for friends.
The record industry really needs to change otherwise they’re never going to be able to keep up. Look at Radiohead’s new album for example. By offering it online for any amount of money it looks like they will have actually made more money from this album than any other they have made.
It’s a trap!
there’s not much that can be done by the music industry and such. most people would share music they got with their friends, but things like limewire let you give it to everyone.
there are some sites that let you get music for free, but you can’t copy or move the files, which would prevent this.
We are molding children’s minds to believe stealing music isn’t a crime because they are not getting in trouble from it. They believe it’s socially acceptable. No wonder Radiohead is giving away their music for any price you are willing to pay for it. Anyways these children will grow up used to downloading im sure some of them will never buy a CD in their lives. Such a sad world… God I can’t wait for my download to complete - 780 K/bps - it’s slowing down..
For you people who say it’s the parent’s job to keep better track of what their kids online, it’s simply not that easy.
I remember when I was slightly older than her, and my parents sat me down and told me to stop downloading music because it was illegal. I stopped for a while, but it wasn’t long before I was back at it. I wanted music as much as anyone, and with no source of income, what other options did I have? Even if I wasn’t downloading I wouldn’t have been paying for it.
My parents couldn’t stop me, they had no means of doing so. As is often the case these days I had far more knowledge of technology than my parents. They did all they could to inform me of what was legal, but in the end I was the only one who could keep me from downloading. As someone with an increasing interest in music I couldn’t afford I sure wasn’t going to stop.
[quote comment="191902"]It’s a trap![/quote]
I lol’d.
This seems a little weird…It doesn’t sound like a 10 year old at all.
Yeah, this is also why we dont let naive children vote or handle much responsibility. Sure, yeah, I dl stuff. But I know its wrong. And if I get caught, I sure as hell am not going to get legal advice from a child. It’s sweet sounding but this is an adults world, not a childs fantasy.
Ps. LimeWire is a pain in the ass. Its about torrents. Not LimeWire.
That sucked ass
Total fake…I have a nine-year-old, and my house is filled with 9-year-olds and that’s no nine-year-old, it’s how an adult who doesn’t know kids thinks a kid thinks…would be interesting to hear a real kid, though
what a load of errrr… nonsense
don’t patronize the people who come to torrentfreak to read the articles with made up drivel like this.
I fucking hate kids.
What a fucking dumb bitch.
“TF. Come on, play along with me.”
PEDO
Surely i can’t be the only one who thinks that is an obvious forgery, and written by some no-gooder trying to promote the virtues of theft
wherever you go and whatever you do. there will always be some uneducated person shouting “FAKE!” or some other bullshit on the internet.
uhh.. whats with people calling torrent freak pedos? if you dont like torrent freak then stop using it. im sure it dont take a brain surgeon to stop being retarded.
There is NOTHING lower, filthier, and less worthy of human life than someone who is hateful to children.
TF: Please, for the love of FSM, DELETE these insane hateful comments directed at a nine year-old little girl.
87 Oct 21, 2007 at 23:57 by Taylor Hewitt
Kill yourself now, please.
Wow, it took a ten year old to tell them the problem with CD’s is because they can’t put them on their MP3 players easily.
Want sales? Make things as easy for your customer and make things “just work” properly. That’s why things like TiVo and iPod’s have been so popular.
screw limewire why not just start going into the record stores and walking out with all the music we can carry…. whats the difference? oh ya… in real life its called stealing and you go to jail….. wake up
You can interview me. A 11 year old file-sharer. I know a lot about computing, and especially about how the torrent protocol works. I am a programmer. You can contact me via email and msn; fedorsinev @ gmail.com ( removed spaces because I don’t wanted freaking email collector bots spamming me )
[quote comment="191672"]This doesnt sound like a 9 year old, I call bullshit[/quote]
I concur
[quote comment="191974"][quote comment="191672"]This doesnt sound like a 9 year old, I call bullshit[/quote]
I concur[/quote]
Come on I seen a 5 year old on the internet who had the perfect grammar.
This article is fake.
sick fucks..
I’ve been file sharing scince the napster days (and i’m only 13 at the momment) i know its illegal and what the riaa would like to do to me, but i do it.
[quote comment="191984"]I’ve been file sharing scince the napster days (and i’m only 13 at the momment)[/quote]
How the hell is that possible?!?!
Thats awesome… Although TF should of informed her about BT… Seems much safer :)… If i would of known this much about net when I was young…
this article is FAKE!
photoshopped
Actually, if you think about it, why the hell are adults so hard-on about cramming complicated laws into a kid’s head?
BT isn’t actually any safer now, either, so no change. BT has the additional risk of getting you pulled in for something you didn’t do, and unless all you’ve been torrenting are Linux builds and such, there’s really nothing much you can say to clear yourself because you’d have to incriminate yourself again.
A sale is not a right. Copying still leaves the products on the manufacturer’s shelf, so it’s no theft. The entire anti-piracy movement is just a bid to cement enforced exclusivity and control of media already sold to a consumer. Nothing more.
um shes really retarded and makes 9 year olds like me look stupid.
This is by the far the most retarded story ever!!
See? Its so simple, even a child understands.
to those who r against interviewing a 9 year old..i think the idea is fresh and worth doing ..i dun c any harm in it…
LIES!
This article is simply: FAKE.
To all of you that are calling this interview crap and spouting off bullshit like “Peadohpile” and “Fake” I’m sorry but what the hell is wrong with this interview? Not enough Manga? Or did it disturb you to learn that a 9 year old is smart enough to download and play “free” music from the internet?
I found it intresting….why? Because it shows that even the younger generation are so pissed at the price of CD’s and DVD’s that they choose to fileshare. And you call this guy an idot for posting this? When the best responses you can come up with are “Peadophile” “Loser” or some other complete pile of arse gravy. If you can’t actually take an intrest in the way the communtiy works….then fuck off back to slagging off movie stars on imdb or some such shit….you sad, pathetic little nerds….
[quote comment="192032"]A sale is not a right. Copying still leaves the products on the manufacturer’s shelf, so it’s no theft. The entire anti-piracy movement is just a bid to cement enforced exclusivity and control of media already sold to a consumer. Nothing more.[/quote]
Two words: opportunity costs. After reading these comments, it’s obvious that several of you have no idea what stealing really is.
When you copy a product and give it to someone, they have it. Therefore, they are not going to go to the manufacturer’s shelf and buy it. Instead of selling 2 units, the manufacturer only sells 1 - yet two customers have the unit. If I were the manufacturer/artist/publisher, I’d want to get paid for my product.
None of you people have a “right” to any fucking content. If you don’t want to pay for it, then you don’t have the right to take it as you please. Is it that fucking hard to understand?
NICE ARTICLE!
Fun and interesting :)
I don’t understand why people are getting bent out of shape over it….
It’s just a simple interview people. There would be no point to fake this and there’s nothing wrong with talking to kids!
Torrentfreak is awesome! Keep up the great work!
You are an idiot and probably work for Mediadefender or the RIAA.
Only a complete moron would beleive that everyone who downloads a song for free would have purchased it if they could not download it.
[quote comment="192077"]
You are an idiot and probably work for Mediadefender or the RIAA.
Only a complete moron would beleive that everyone who downloads a song for free would have purchased it if they could not download it.[/quote]
No, I’m just a musician who knows right from wrong. Just because you CAN do something doesn’t mean you SHOULD. There are these things called morals, you know.
Okay, pretend the internet didn’t exist. Imagine you heard a song you like on the radio and want to procure a copy for repeated, high quality listening. Do you:
a) walk into a store and buy it
b) walk into a store, decide the price is too high for you to pay, and leave empty handed
c) walk into a store, decide the price is too high, then shove it in your pocket and walk out
If you can’t afford to buy music, then you don’t have the privilege of enjoying it.
Seems like that kid was smarter than the person doing the interview. You show me someone who has “NEVER” downloaded something they “SHOULD” have paid for and I’ll show you someone who doesn’t have a computer. Zzzz…I’m going back to burning more crappy movies to sell at the market. >;)
This interview was photoshopped! The reflections are all wrong.
By the way “al”. When Internet did’nt existed, if I heard a song I like on the radio, I simply record it, At that was perfect for me. All my friends did the same.
I call bullshit.
Great display of the lack of education with internet usage today and use of information. Parents don’t know much and child are left to beleive the internet is free and really no rules. Whatever you can access, you get. Only way the fix this maybe is teach at schools or give parents information about proper internet usage at home.
Its people like this 9 year old who will ensure the destruction of the music industry in the future.
Artists will no longer be paid anything because everyone is ‘downloading’ the tracks on a program, not necessarily knowing what they are doing.
Ignorant people.
Why not ask her about how Congress has extended copyright to ridiculous lengths, ignoring the US Constitution:
Article I, Section 8, Clause 8 of the United States Constitution
“To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.”
One of the biggest reasons is the Micky Mouse, corporations does not wantto help artists, but to use them to obtain the largest benefit without caring a bit about the creators.
Let’s hope those new kids can see that the Constitution defends us, and not those corporations.
Copyright was created to promote creation and culture, and now they want to use it to diminish it.
This is really fake .. but w/e .. and you would think common sense would develop at an early age -_- ..
my 6 year old cousin can eat this bitch alive in discussions, of course, if this was true.
The next best thing torrentfreak could’ve done after talking to her was telling her the right things. Although she won’t care, at least teach her some stuffs.
I know a chick who was partying at 9, and had a cocaine addiction at 11. How is that relevant? It barely is, kinda like most of the comments on this topic so far.
This article is pointless at a first glance, but it reflects the ideology of the next generation and how they view the files that are distributed.
Personally, I use torrents a LOT. Why? Well if I hear of an artist and I like them, how am I supposed to know which albums to buy? Many ‘best selling’ albums aren’t my style, and many that are unheard of I love. I download a discography, and I pick about 1\5 albums to BUY. I like having a collection of the great albums from a band. However, I won’t pay for something I don’t want. That is the artist\band stealing from ME. I’ll gladly go to a concert and buy merchandise at the shows, but I won’t pay for a bad album.
If I see previews for a movie, I already know that what I just saw was better looking than the movie itself. So what do I do? I wait until they come around to the ole bit-torrent and I download a copy. I watch it. If I like it, then I go and see it. If I don’t, then I blame hollywood for wasting two hours of my life.
As seen in this article and what I see on a daily basis, the youth have a horrible impression of what file SHARING and stealing are.
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The first thing a file-sharer should realize is that it is actually illegal.
meh, she might have a future if she doesn’t come across porn in teh interweb…if she exists at all
“I was like whoa cool” loosely translates as “I exclaimed out loud, ‘whoa, cool’”.
Or, as the legendary Roald Dahl put it, “some people from the USA have trouble with the words they say”.
I think the entire music business needs a refactoring…
I don’t think the baby has to know that copying or downloading music is like steal, I think it’s a new era and like dinosaurs got extinct, now it’s time for music and film majors…
[quote comment="192116"]I know a chick who was partying at 9, and had a cocaine addiction at 11. How is that relevant? It barely is, kinda like most of the comments on this topic so far.
This article is pointless at a first glance, but it reflects the ideology of the next generation and how they view the files that are distributed.
Personally, I use torrents a LOT. Why? Well if I hear of an artist and I like them, how am I supposed to know which albums to buy? Many ‘best selling’ albums aren’t my style, and many that are unheard of I love. I download a discography, and I pick about 1\5 albums to BUY. I like having a collection of the great albums from a band. However, I won’t pay for something I don’t want. That is the artist\band stealing from ME. I’ll gladly go to a concert and buy merchandise at the shows, but I won’t pay for a bad album.
If I see previews for a movie, I already know that what I just saw was better looking than the movie itself. So what do I do? I wait until they come around to the ole bit-torrent and I download a copy. I watch it. If I like it, then I go and see it. If I don’t, then I blame hollywood for wasting two hours of my life.
As seen in this article and what I see on a daily basis, the youth have a horrible impression of what file SHARING and stealing are.[/quote]
haha you know gurls you must be leet
the fact you party with 11 year olds
is sad…
This just shows, that ppl just dont give value to DIGITAL stuff.
If you have a physical mean, then that my cost something; if it is only digital, its there to be copied.
The interview seems fake.
Also, why Limewire? I guess no one has heard of Frostwire?
BTW, this is TORRENTfreak, not Gnutellafreak.
SAGE for being FAKE and off-topic.
To all those calling the article a fake based on.. various very silly arguments: If Hannah doesn’t sound “smart” enough for a 9-year old, think of all those Americans who can’t name their neighbouring states let alone their capitals.. who can’t place France on the world map even in the correct continent.. think of this and then imagine the same worthless education of a 9-yearold.
Nothing in this article screams fake to me. Infact, I can well believe it to be true.
Why?
Children do not ‘contemplate’ nor ‘think on’ things, they receive information and then act based upon the parts that are easy to grasp.
( Oh now you all are going “my child thinks on this and that” well gee, I suppose your child is the perfect measurement of the norm..not. )
The information Hannah has received on P2P has mostly come from her cousin, who is probably a teenager and probably doesn’t understand everything about the technology and its confusing legalities in the first place, let alone be able to explain it to a 9-yearold. Nor would the cousin want to, why bother? Did you bother when you were in your teens? Do you bother now?
For a teenager the idea of something that is readily available and not prevented in any way (in their view) to be illegal and frowned upon. Their view of places for theft are malls with security cameras and alarms. Once you get P2P software on your computer, there are no cameras, no signs/warnings and no alarms. To a teen/child this means ‘it has to be legal’.
Its a fake one as anyone with intelligence can guess!
funny : )
Why don’t you ask me what my favorite hobby is?
ROFL!
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Why is an interview like this with a 9 y.o. so surprising? Don’t none of you have little sisters or anything?
ZOMG she knows about filesharing, she can open an app, enter a band name and click enter. Nominate her for a noble prize shes a freaking genius.
If you can’t teach a 9-10 y.o. relative this you ought to save for special school because they’re gonna be a retard.
I do know nine-year-olds who talk like this (well, they’re older now, but they STILL talk like this), so that’s not a good enough measure of whether it’s fake. Some of them would be clever enough to figure out how to run p2p on their own, others are still wondering how to change font color in AIM. So, I can’t tell if it’s fake or not…. :D
However, I do vote in favor of “British”
[quote comment="191672"]This doesnt sound like a 9 year old, I call bullshit[/quote]
ditto
So… she steals music because she can’t figure out how to rip a CD and make her own MP3’s?
Sounds like this little problem could be solved by just showing her how Nero works.
thank you for comparing children with p2p.
…we would just shoplift.
it doesn’t sound like a 9 year old because she’s almost 10!
DUH!
I love how people are saying “American kids.”
The girl used “rubbish.” She’s British or at least European. Any American kid would have said it “sucks” or “is crap” not “rubbish.”
[quote comment="192079"][quote comment="192077"]
You are an idiot and probably work for Mediadefender or the RIAA.
Only a complete moron would beleive that everyone who downloads a song for free would have purchased it if they could not download it.[/quote]
No, I’m just a musician who knows right from wrong. Just because you CAN do something doesn’t mean you SHOULD. There are these things called morals, you know.
Okay, pretend the internet didn’t exist. Imagine you heard a song you like on the radio and want to procure a copy for repeated, high quality listening. Do you:
a) walk into a store and buy it
b) walk into a store, decide the price is too high for you to pay, and leave empty handed
c) walk into a store, decide the price is too high, then shove it in your pocket and walk out
If you can’t afford to buy music, then you don’t have the privilege of enjoying it.[/quote]
…or you went home, waited for it to play on the radio and pushed record so you’d have it on tape. Same went for movies, when I was little my aunt showed me Snow White, I liked it. Mom told me that if I wanted it I had to wait for my birthday which was several months away. It was on TV a week later so I hit record. I still have the movie on tape.
Frankly, I agree with Greg(USA)’s ideas. I download a variety of music then purchase the CD’s I like. Some of the music I listen to can’t even be bought in North America with out paying exuberant shipping fees.
Secondly, I used to dance. I’m not sure if you’re aware but dancers are payed next to nothing yet require music to dance to. This gets expensive. So while I have no problems shelling out 20+ dollars for an independent artists CD, I also have no issue’s with downloading JT’s album when I need a minute and a half of a single song.
Thirdly, as a former dancer, I’m actually quite flattered when I see one of my old video’s floating around. I consider them free advertising. To get people to come to my schools events, myself and a bunch of the other dancers used to release little videos of our class. I found that they worked quite well and helped us quite a bit with ticket sales.
So you want to make money as an artist Mos Def? Concerts! Everyone knows that’s where musicians, especially the Pop Tarts make the vast majority of their money.
The kid has the wrong mindset, piracy is stealing stop f*king rationalizing it. It is stealing and yes it’s wrong, but it’s just a matter of how are they going to stop me especially when they don’t have jurisdiction over me nor can they find me as easily because I don’t download only from one source (eg: torrents are 1 thing, and p2p apps another, but there’s a very active http and ftp scene that remains a mystery to them - let’s keep it that way).
[quote comment="192523"]So… she steals music because she can’t figure out how to rip a CD and make her own MP3’s?
Sounds like this little problem could be solved by just showing her how Nero works.[/quote]
yea or just showing her the simple rip function on windows media player.
man that was a funny interview.
[quote comment="191587"]You would never get some of those awnsers if you were tlaking to an adult or even a teenger. this ones especially good:
‘Why would they put it [music] on the internet and invent mp3 players if it was against the law?’[/quote]
Actually, I got the exact same response from an educated adult: ‘Movies would not be available via BitTorrent if it was illegal. “They” would shut it down or take them off.’
[quote comment="192093"]I call bullshit.[/quote]
I’ll see your bullshit and raise you a moron.
Interesting! :)
Welcome to the legal pirates world, the girl’s copying music, but someone gotta tell her that if she only downloads the music she already got on CDs just to be able to play em on the mp3, that means she’s not stealing music, she already paid to listen to it, she’s like backing up her data(music) on whatever sort of media she wants to, & that’s quite legal, it’s like downloading a torrent and finding a text file in it telling you that you got these files only because you had the original ones before, that’s your legal right to keep your media, the girl’s not a pirate,, yet :)
[quote comment="192592"][quote comment="192523"]So… she steals music because she can’t figure out how to rip a CD and make her own MP3’s?
Sounds like this little problem could be solved by just showing her how Nero works.[/quote]
yea or just showing her the simple rip function on windows media player.
man that was a funny interview.[/quote]
[quote comment="192749"]Welcome to the legal pirates world, the girl’s copying music, but someone gotta tell her that if she only downloads the music she already got on CDs just to be able to play em on the mp3, that means she’s not stealing music, she already paid to listen to it, she’s like backing up her data(music) on whatever sort of media she wants to, & that’s quite legal, it’s like downloading a torrent and finding a text file in it telling you that you got these files only because you had the original ones before, that’s your legal right to keep your media, the girl’s not a pirate,, yet :)[/quote]
FAKE
but with a good message, xD
This is so funny.-.- She’s a dumbass though at the age of 9 and unable to convert audio cd into mp3 format-.- Totally failure at the age of 9 already. She’s doomed to be dumb in life.
frosty, i know people that are like 40 and doesn’t know how to do that… Not because they’re dumb, but because they don’t h4x teh puter 24/7
‘Sharing’ or ’stealing’? It reminds me of what happened with the invention of the printing press. That was another great leap forward in information sharing.
Some countries outlawed it because it made it that much harder to control their population with their own exlusive ideas. And guess what? The countries that embraced the printing press blossomed. It began the whole scientific revolution. The countries that outlawed it stagnated for hundreds of years..
What about the cost of_not_file sharing? Has anyone ever looked at that? People listen to music because it makes them feel good -hopefully. How much does this_save_the community in mental health issues? I know last year listening to uplifting music may have saved my life…how many others? What is this worth?
If we can come closer to approaching a utopia through the digital age, whereby everyone has equal access to everything, why wouldn’t we? The main idea behind copyright law is to encourage the creator of something decent to create more, isn’t it? So they get ‘enough’ to continue creating what others enjoy. Or am I wrong?
Interesting debate nevertheless.
see this is what’s wrong with the world today… children are being taught that crime is ok. Children are being raised up thinkin that they can break the copyright laws. This is the same world which tells our kids that having sex with everybody is ok. This is the same world which tells our kids that doing drugs is ok. This is the same world which tells our kids that only money and sex matter. I’m saddened by the fact that the world is like this. I dont like this kind of world and dont want to be any part of it.
I was downloading from Napster at seven and eight (before it was illegal). So?
I used DC++ and IRC when I was 7 ;)
[quote comment="193275"]What about the cost of_not_file sharing? Has anyone ever looked at that? People listen to music because it makes them feel good -hopefully. How much does this_save_the community in mental health issues? I know last year listening to uplifting music may have saved my life…how many others? What is this worth?
[/quote]
The effect on people’s health is negated by whiney emo music.
lol. jeez 9 what a badass, i remember napster,LAWLS,
Damn, kids are dumb. Kind of sad to think that in 2007, 9 year old kids have grown up watching MTV and using computers for nothing more than downloading crap and playing “dress up games”.
It wasn’t that many years prior that we didn’t grow up with cable and we used the computer to discover things. Every network or connection was a new experience. It wasn’t just a boob-tube with more channels to vegetate in.
WTF? Shaun Kingstone?? His name is Shaun Kingston…
personally, i find sean kingston just another talentless obese stupid black man. that fuckin song annoys the living fuck out of me
HATE TO TELL YOU GUYS BUT THAT DUDE SEAN KINGSTON SUCKETH ASSHOLETH BIG TIME
Okay - she’s pretty naive, part of the Bebo Generation (as opposed to those on Facebook and MySpace who are 16+ at the moment)
She doesn’t understand law and why should she? Her cousin is to blame here.
[quote comment="191672"]This doesnt sound like a 9 year old, I call bullshit[/quote]
agreed. doesnt sound like a real kid. i think this is interesting. but i think you made up the girl.
THE GIRL WAS MADE UP. JUST LIKE THE “SCENER” IN THAT ONE ARTICLE WHERE SOME SCENE GUY WAS GIVING AN INTERVIEW. THE STUFF IN THAT ARTICLE WAS SOMETHING THAT ANYBODY (EVEN ORANGUTANGS) COULD HAVE DIGGED UP FROM SITES LIKE WIKIPEDIA.
im 13 and i understand it all..
but she did have some good points haha (: xx
Ahhhhh to be innocent and see the world through the eyes of a child again……though one has to wonder if this 9 year old’s confession is going to have the RIAA sending her a bill for all that music….:-P
The idea of interviewing a nine-year old file sharer would be a good idea, provided the child knew at least the BASICS of file sharing and wasn’t completely ignorant.
BTW, my reference to ‘basic knowledge of file sharing’ includes:
1.Knowing file-sharers may be prosecuted if discovered to be doing so.
2.If you share files and don’t know the preceding fact, you shouldn’t be sharing files.
For people in the USA = Must be hard for you guys to download stuff! Where I live, theres plenty of internet resources and it’s an extremely wealthy country, yet unaware of this underground mecca.
BTW I’m 14.
How does she listen to SEAN KINGSTON ????????????????????????????
Behemoth is the greatest band there is.
I think that some people here have issues.
That was directed to those who obviously did NOT get the point in this.
10 is not too young to be learning technology. If not 10, then when?? Before you know it, technology will be the fruit of the world, and those who frown upon it or don’t know how to use it will have a dilemma in the near future, if not now.
Oh, and who the heck would be that bored in life to make up a fake interview of a 9 year old?
Also, the girl is not idiotic or stupid. Quit insulting her. She’s only repeating what she’s comprehended and learned through her short life so far. When SCHOOL systems start teaching about the RIAA, I’ll call her dumb then, because she should’ve learned it by now.
But since they aren’t, don’t insult her because people are ALL smart, it’s just that they need to know the knowledge to prove it.
Even it was 1000 years, i don’t mind torrent.
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I’m calling major BS on this one
Hats off to the p2p generation. Fuck the RIAA kids. It’s time to kill the beast.
We need to instill copyleft values in the children. Everyone: Explain to all the children you know how information wants to be free.
[quote comment="191882"][quote comment="191875"]I don’t think she’s American; judging by the fact that she likes Shayne Ward and Blue, I’d say she’s probably British.[/quote]
British seems to fit with some of it, but “not the boss of me” is more of an american phrase.[/quote]
ever thought of the fact that she might be from a non-english speaking country and her answers are translated? that’s why some of you think the answers are fake i guess.
you get here, what you were at 9 when TV was everywhere.
for kids, internet, download, contents are everywhere. they will not go back. they will want more.
the same than you when you were kids, teenagers and adults.
it’s her world , not yours anymore.
Artists and editors will understand it the hard way when all the kids of internet will be 20 years old.
I think this speaks to a greater problem with the mindset of younger generations… that because they want something they should have it. There is no idea of earning something, no wonder everyone lives on credit nowadays! I started babysitting when I was 11 to save money for things I wanted. When I was a kid if I really wanted a CD I asked for it for my birthday etc. I think we’re teaching an unreasonable sense of entitlement to children.
This is the funniest comment thread in the world. It’s like the zeitgeist of the internet rolled up and put in a package with a little pink bow.
Both the interviewer and the girl are clearly British. The girl uses the word “rubbish” and refers to bootleggers at the “market”. The interviewer asks about buying things at the “shop”.
Also: there is, of course, the possibility that this is fake. It’s hard to tell where kids are involved, because kids ALWAYS come off so freaking weird in text, because they’re all at such radically different levels of sophistication. We have no instinctive sense of how a child should come across in text, so it always seems off.
Also: I find it hilarious that there are so many people here capable of getting worked up about file-sharing as theft. The market and the law must and will adapt to the realities of consumer demand. Try not to do anything that offends your conscience too much or puts you at too great a risk in the mean-time. That is all.
I guess the point of this article was to rubbish the music industry (’even a little girl can see that!’). All it did is make EFF and other clueless fanatics look like 9 year old girls. Sorry, 10 year old girls.
Ask same questions to her father and mother and post it here.
I’m 8 years old and I agree with the interviewee.
If I’ve got a piece of information, it’s right and natural for me to want to share it with my friends. This is fundamental to our civilzation, and any law that stands in the way of this shocks the conscience.
With the cost of transferring an MP3 file being too cheap to meter, and with marketing and publicity being available for free by internet-speed word-of-mouth, it’s clear that $20 CD’s and million-dollar hype machines are obsolete.
That music companies can maintain their anachronistic business model by exploiting loopholes in the law is a terrible thing, and it’s a terrible thing that we-as-a-society are letting them get away with it.
FAKE!
[quote comment="191691"].
Why SHOULD we buy MP3 players if we can’t use MP3s on them? Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think we should break the law just because it’s wrong. We just need to change it. Instead of saying “LOL copyright iz stoopid pirate yar yar yar”, you need to talk to your representatives about repealing the DMCA and other painfully restrictive laws.
I got a lot out of this article. If you didn’t, that’s your problem.[/quote]
[quote comment="191691"].
Why SHOULD we buy MP3 players if we can’t use MP3s on them? Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think we should break the law just because it’s wrong. We just need to change it. Instead of saying “LOL copyright iz stoopid pirate yar yar yar”, you need to talk to your representatives about repealing the DMCA and other painfully restrictive laws.
I got a lot out of this article. If you didn’t, that’s your problem.[/quote]
Why should musicians not be comp[ensated? Because the (according to you) majority don’t want ot pay for it? What do you do for a living anyway, what industry are you in? What fi the amjority noooinbger wanted to compensate those in your industry? That’s what I thought.
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this interview is becoming a shot in spain :)
hi girls and boys
Just who ever said that music was supposed to be a “business” and people should do it for a living?
That idea is common in the world of today where everything is supposed to have a price and be about money, but if you think of the past and how music began, you can see that today’s idea of “play for pay” is totally effed up.
Music is deep in the human soul and people should sing or play from the joy or pain in their hearts to share their feelings with others. Wanting to get paid for that is as weird as wanting to be paid for hugging your kid!
im gonna teach my 9 yr old sister how to use torrents and how to be a good seed! if you control the youth you control the future, lol. honestly, i see no problem with this. i used my schools t3 lines for years, i hope all kids can still dream big and grow up to do whatever, including pirates
[quote comment="191601"]LMAO too right, Hannah
good one about Seans boss
I wanna parrot:’(
Happy Bday xoxox TorrentFreakLover3211[/quote]
hello hannah
[quote comment="205300"]hi girls and boys[/quote]
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[quote comment="208258"]hello jasmine are you ok how old are you are you my friend at school this girl at school said im a bully now that is mean please send a reply on;rebecca@TorrentFreak.com[/quote]
Very interesting look at the psyche of a child file-sharer!
I was wondering when someone in my era - I’m 30 would ask - why wasn’t there a big uproar when “high speed dubbing” came out - you could make a copy of your cassette (most kids don’t even know what these are) like 3 times faster than normal. We did this all the time. We would also record songs off the radio. Will it be illegal to sing your favorite cong soon? My only issue with the recording industry as a whole is the price they have been charging for technology. Tapes use to be fairly cheap. Then CD’s came out - which where by far cheaper to produce in large amounts. But, they charge ~ $ 20 each. Most people probably feel justified in downloading a few songs beacuse the industry raped us on the all the CD’s we actually bought! just my 2 cents
What was the piont of all of this. This is dumb.
this 9 year old is a bich cuz you are not hannah momtana ok and if you sang me a song it won’t be good so YOU ARE GUST A LITTLE 2 YEAR OLD WHO LIKE HANNAH MONTANA.
P.S. I AM HANNAH MOMTANA BYE FANS I LOVE YOU
HEY FANS HOW ARE YOU. LOOK 9 YEAR OLD SHUT UP. CUZ YOU ARE NOT HANNAH MONTANA YOU ARE A BICH. I AM HANNAH MONTANA OK I WISH PEOPLE WOULD STOP SAYING THEY ARE THE REAL HANNAH MONTANA CUZ YOU ARE NOT A AM
P.S I PROMIES I AM HANNAH MONTANA
A BIG FAT CRIP LIE
i’ve seen grad students and on do things that drop my jaw, like getting a separate cd player so they can listen to music while they work at the computer, who are stunned when i ask why they don’t just use the computers cd drive to listen to their disc.
hell i’ve seen worse, so it happens.
observation on the scale necessary for real protection of a child online can lead to serious backlash and problems as well(try to think of having your grandmother sitting behind you and you mistakenly try dicks.com loking for the sporting goods store…). unless they are very well versed and more importantly widely experienced dealing with the technology, they will likely have their opinions formed more from what they are fed by the news stations.
in social sciences classes i’ve taken they try to instill the ability to at least acknowledge that every group, individual, or organization has its own agenda, and intentional or not, creates its own slant and spin.
add the drive to garner money and imagine how strong that slant and spin can be in pursuit of the almighty dollar.
the rift comes in of course when you grasp that an individual who does not have to pay out of pocket for that news, will quite simply be conditioned not to make that connection.
to them broadcast television is “free”.
its the same kind of conditioned dissociation which has helped foster the mindset of the pirate.
it helps along the basic desire to have what one wants, and is reinforced by having it when one wants.
couple these points of impetus with what can be considered outrageous limitations, prices, and inconveniences:
-the price per mb for a retail cd is what?
-the tax to offset piracy on all manner of blank media.
-the price to replace damaged media the way the company wants.
- the odds that a legitimate replacement for a number of materials may simply no longer be available due to discontinuation of the data or the medium.
- ever run into a nasty return policy on opened movie/game/app/music for any legitimate reason?
-how many tracks of any given cd have you heard offline, say radio? 1 of 8-20? maybe two or 3.
-how many movies have you been suckered into by a sub 60 second spot, that you wished you had your money back.
the list goes on.
hell take a music business class.
most of the passed on cost is not going to royalties for the artist and or songwriter.
so they of course have the least to lose per unit lost cd wise.
online downloads. mm. paying to provide my medium, data transportation, et. and when i buy the music, what have i bought ? access? and if my playback device is incompatable with the current drm implementation then what?
why am i wasting space, however much that i’ve paid out for on drm data?
i’ll tell you what. it’ll stop when it stops being a capital venture, or when the masses realize that if they dedicated their processing time to brute forcing every possible combination of 1’s and 0’s to the length of a 700mb cdr and pass them to the copyright office as a lump, that every piece of audio possible -not already copyrighted of course- in cdda format, would be forever public domain for the cost of the media, and the per media copyright fee.
sure with single core machines clocking 2ghz it’ll take a 100 years or so. with moores law and the now quad core sytems, wouldnt take too long… to force freedom, and make the artist the person you pay to see PERFORM.
in the time it took to reread this, the same machine i used to do so managed a few hundred thousand or so permutations of that keyspace…. and every one would be valid for helping to stonewall future wallet vampirism.
end rant and bighint to groups like seti@home, grid.org, etc.. and the people who run their clients..
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i think she is spoild and not to be mean but if i was her mom i could have not have handle her.
[quote comment="242486"]i think she is spoild and not to be mean but if i was her mom i could have not have handle her.[/quote]
[quote comment="227419"]HEY FANS HOW ARE YOU. LOOK 9 YEAR OLD SHUT UP. CUS YOU ARE NOT HANNAH MONTANA YOU ARE A liar. I Am not HANNAH MONTANA OK I WISH PEOPLE WOULD STOP SAYING THEY ARE THE REAL HANNAH MONTANA CUS YOU ARE NOT i AM not
P.S I PROMIES I AM HANNAH MONTANA[/quote]
you are a little bich. you are not hannah montana
I’m 9 ad you Guys are all wrong. We’re not that bad. What’s really in our minds depends on the kids and their parents. If their good kids the’ll be good. if their bad kids they’ll be bad.
oh and by the way that was not hannah montana
Taylor is right.:p
You mother f**kers!!
That was pointless.If u were so sad that u had nothing intresting then y did u just put another laim article on.People don’t go on this website to waist their time with this stuff.If I told u I used Lime Wire would u make me a fake inteerveiw that would be the 3rd most pythetic thing ever.The 1st pythetic thing is u,the 2nd pythetic thing is the fake article trash.I bet my websitre is better go to “www.disney.com”.
It sounds like the kids at my school. One of them tried to argue with me that downloading music was legal and that Limewire didn’t require Internet. Dumbass.
Limewire Rule #1 : If the cops call, then wipe your hard drive with a disk cleaner tool.
Rule #2: If you don’t have a disk cleaner, then just throw it in the microwave for 20 minutes.
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TF: thanks for the article, very interesting! don’t listen to the haters.
For you people who think a 9/10 year old doesn’t talk like that…you don’t get around kids much do you? (except maybe your own.) 10 is the new 13! My seven year old could give similar responses and easily use limewire if I showed her the ropes. (She’s very computer literate.) But I’m not going to teach her because my ISP limits me! (And the possibility of my hard drive being full of barbie songs doesn’t thrill me…) BTW, I have six kids.
23,21,18,16,14 and 7. All the teens and 21 year old are into limewire. Me and the 18 year old use utorrent, I also use azeurs (sp.) and my 23 year, well, he probably uses everything. (he has speed, i don’t).
It was a cute article with a fresh view…everyone can’t like everything…I enjoyed it..made me smile…would be interesting to compare interviews from each age group or generation side by side just for kicks…(any 70 year olds out there to interview?)
my parrot it calling me…
um.. i think this is made up.
maybe it isn’t..
idk. something about it is strange.
pretty fake orr?? lol..
pretty sure it is aii…
i dnt fink a 9 yr old wuld giv answers like dat aii…
its so scary to think people are actually usin a lil 9 yr olds convo with a pedo as a way of proving a point…
eek….
um…btw evry1 haz a diff point of view on things…u cant just write things and expect people to all think the same…
It dusnt even matter how old this chikk is, it matters how mature she is. It dus sound like a fake convo but yer just sayin…
seriously some people have got to get a life….lol..
this is gettin rediculuuzzz..
just like lettin pplz no..
um there is such thing as called outside…hu ever puts this much effort into doin this kinda stuff is a geekmister aii lol…
just leave it to the pros and let them do the work….
if u dnt like how people are downloading things…then get over it, its ur point of view, good on ya.
and if u dnt mind downloadin stuff, good on ya aswell.
i accidently found this site, cuz i was lookin for a movie review lol…and yer….
Im 9 and you guys are waaaaayyyy off
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[quote comment="271285"]For you people who think a 9/10 year old doesn’t talk like that…you don’t get around kids much do you? (except maybe your own.) 10 is the new 13! My seven year old could give similar responses and easily use limewire if I showed her the ropes. (She’s very computer literate.) But I’m not going to teach her because my ISP limits me! (And the possibility of my hard drive being full of barbie songs doesn’t thrill me…) BTW, I have six kids.
23,21,18,16,14 and 7. All the teens and 21 year old are into limewire. Me and the 18 year old use utorrent, I also use azeurs (sp.) and my 23 year, well, he probably uses everything. (he has speed, i don’t).
It was a cute article with a fresh view…everyone can’t like everything…I enjoyed it..made me smile…would be interesting to compare interviews from each age group or generation side by side just for kicks…(any 70 year olds out there to interview?)
my parrot it calling me…[/quote]
i know listen i am 10 yeares old barbie songs are STUPID!!!!!
[quote comment="227416"]this 9 year old is a bich cuz you are not hannah momtana ok and if you sang me a song it won’t be good so YOU ARE GUST A LITTLE 2 YEAR OLD WHO LIKE HANNAH MONTANA.
P.S. I AM HANNAH MOMTANA BYE FANS I LOVE YOU[/quote]
no u are not i am because if u were then i would be a nobody so HA HA HA in ur face!!!!!!!
[quote comment="242493"][quote comment="242486"]i think she is spoild and not to be mean but if i was her mom i could have not have handle her.[/quote]
[quote comment="227419"]HEY FANS HOW ARE YOU. LOOK 9 YEAR OLD SHUT UP. CUS YOU ARE NOT HANNAH MONTANA YOU ARE A liar. I Am not HANNAH MONTANA OK I WISH PEOPLE WOULD STOP SAYING THEY ARE THE REAL HANNAH MONTANA CUS YOU ARE NOT i AM not
P.S I PROMIES I AM HANNAH MONTANA[/quote][/quote]
guys listen i read this whole thing can u all stop i am the real Hannah Montana aka Miley Cyrus ok!!!!!!!!
[quote comment="242493"][quote comment="242486"]i think she is spoild and not to be mean but if i was her mom i could have not have handle her.[/quote]
[quote comment="227419"]HEY FANS HOW ARE YOU. LOOK 9 YEAR OLD SHUT UP. CUS YOU ARE NOT HANNAH MONTANA YOU ARE A liar. I Am not HANNAH MONTANA OK I WISH PEOPLE WOULD STOP SAYING THEY ARE THE REAL HANNAH MONTANA CUS YOU ARE NOT i AM not
P.S I PROMIES I AM HANNAH MONTANA[/quote][/quote]
guys listen i read this whole thing can u all stop i am the real Hannah Montana aka Miley Cyrus ok!!!!!!!! lol
HI guys i love u all oh and that girl that is saying u are hannah montana is going to get in trouble!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote comment="299521"][quote comment="242493"][quote comment="242486"]i think she is spoild and not to be mean but if i was her mom i could have not have handle her.[/quote]
[quote comment="227419"]HEY FANS HOW ARE YOU. LOOK 9 YEAR OLD SHUT UP. CUS YOU ARE NOT HANNAH MONTANA YOU ARE A liar. I Am not HANNAH MONTANA OK I WISH PEOPLE WOULD STOP SAYING THEY ARE THE REAL HANNAH MONTANA CUS YOU ARE NOT i AM not
P.S I PROMIES I AM HANNAH MONTANA[/quote][/quote]
guys listen i read this whole thing can u all stop i am the real Hannah Montana aka Miley Cyrus ok!!!!!!!! lol[/quote]
but do u belive me because i really am hanah montana aka miley cyrus and if u don`t beleive me here is my dad am i hannah montana dad here he is typeing dad: yes people she is hannah montana
[quote comment="250683"]oh and by the way that was not hannah montana[/quote]
[quote comment="299521"][quote comment="242493"][quote comment="242486"]i think she is spoild and not to be mean but if i was her mom i could have not have handle her.[/quote]
[quote comment="227419"]HEY FANS HOW ARE YOU. LOOK 9 YEAR OLD SHUT UP. CUS YOU ARE NOT HANNAH MONTANA YOU ARE A liar. I Am not HANNAH MONTANA OK I WISH PEOPLE WOULD STOP SAYING THEY ARE THE REAL HANNAH MONTANA CUS YOU ARE NOT i AM not
P.S I PROMIES I AM HANNAH MONTANA[/quote][/quote]
guys listen i read this whole thing can u all stop i am the real Hannah Montana aka Miley Cyrus ok!!!!!!!! lol[/quote]
but do u belive me because i really am hanah montana aka miley cyrus and if u don`t beleive me here is my dad am i hannah montana dad here he is typeing dad: yes people she is hannah montana
[quote comment="289846"]Im 9 and you guys are waaaaayyyy off[/quote]
Hey I am Hannah Montana AKA Miley Cyrus and here is my dad typeing Dad: yes everybody she is hannah montana AKA miley cyrus
Kids are our future,
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[quote comment="191940"]I fucking hate kids.
What a fucking dumb bitch.[/quote]
stop fucking swearig bitch
that didn’t sound like a 9 year old…
There should be stricter laws against the pirating of music. If the music industry becomes profitless, there will be a lot less music around.
If that imbecilic little girl is a representation of future music connoisseurs, then the repercussions of pirating should be taught more vigorously and at a significantly younger age.
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Wat is this?
Sure we need to change the law if it’s wrong. Start with the Patriot Act, move on to a few hundred other pieces of legislation, then a few thousand executive orders, and void a couple dozen international treaties. At some point we’ll get down to the level of intellectual feudalism.
When someone demonstrates that America CAN change a law, merely because a large majority of the PUBLIC wants to (i.e. against the interests of corporations and capital), then I’ll take this argument seriously.
She’s right though… why would they sell a worthless CD that you can’t even rip to your computer because of the DRM? I don’t know about you, but I don’t carry around my CD player so I can listen to one artist. The whole reason mp3 players were invented is to make the whole process simpler and more compact. You SHOULD have to pay for music… its only fair to the artist, but the RIAA SHOULDNT cheat us out of our money.
Sean Kingston, another example how you can dress excrement hand it a mike and market as “the shit” and people will hand over their loot for a cd jewelcase filled with poop. I think record companies deserve what they get for pushing crap like Sean Kingston out into the world.
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i know it's a little late for a response on this. but still - for those who really think that 9/10 year olds don't sound like that (as said a numerous times here) - consider that just a few days ago [ "A nine year-old girl in India named M. Lavinashree has passed the Microsoft Certified Professional Exam, becoming the youngest person to ever pull it off (smashing the record previously held by a 10 year-old Pakistani girl)." ] ( read it yourself: http://tinyurl.com/9e6nzq) so keep that in mind before you furthermore talk BS about how (all) kids at 9 or 10 should talk or acquit themselves only because it doesn't! fit in to your little antiquated one-track mindedness!
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