IP-Addresses of First Hurt Locker Victims Revealed

Approximately 700 IP-addresses of BitTorrent users who allegedly shared a copy of ‘The Hurt locker’ have been submitted to the Washington D.C. District Court. The public court records show that nearly all IPs in the group were tracked from the last week of April until the first week of May.

Little more than a week ago the makers of The Hurt Locker filed a complaint against the first 5,000 ‘unidentified’ BitTorrent users. Helped by the U.S. Copyright Group (USCG), the film makers are requesting the personal details connected to the IP-addresses that allegedly shared the film on BitTorrent.

The first batch of IP-addresses (copy below) has now been submitted to the Court, linked to customers of over a dozen US Internet providers. Besides the IP-address and the time when the alleged infringement was recorded the document reveals very little evidence. It is unclear from the current details what file was tracked and whether the evidence gathering techniques will stand up to scrutiny.

The D.C District Court will now have to decide whether or not the ISPs of the alleged infringers will be ordered to hand over the personal information of the users associated with the IP-addresses. If this happens, the customers who are identified will receive a settlement offer of $2,500. Through this scheme, the USCG and Hurt Lockers’ makers hope to collect millions of dollars in revenue, beating their box office earnings.

It’s interesting to note that none of the IP-addresses in this first batch are linked to Time Warner customers. The ISP in question is the only one that is standing up against the money grab, as it went to court hoping to prevent a subpoena that will force them to expose hundreds of customers to the USCG. Time Warner claims that this process would prove too time consuming.

A problem that has been overlooked by most of the press and expert comments is the fact that there will be dozens of wrongfully accused people. Through similar cases in the UK we’ve learned that the evidence provided by the copyright holders is very flaky to say the least. We suspect that the USCG, which appears to be a two man operation, is simply out to collect as much money as possible through settlements and will avoid taking individual cases to court.

Besides The Hurt Locker, USCG is working together with smaller film companies in similar campaigns, and they are looking for new clients to expand their profitable business. This success story has not gone unnoticed by their UK equivalent ACS:LAW who have announced they will also enter the US market. In the UK this scheme has been labeled a scam by politicians, while its lawyers are accused of “harassment, bullying and intrusion” and “legal blackmail”.

IP-addresses of alleged Hurt Locker uploaders/downloaders.

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Disgraceful.
First

Damn.

Good luck to all those who get letters demanding 2.5 fucking grand.
Hello

I am also downloading hurt locker(FxG)……….. track me FUCKERS
musing

*Downloads Hurt Locker*
anonymous

*downloads hurt locker*
Yoshua Wuyts

Oh hell naw, you cant prove that was the person in question downloading. Internet cafés will have humongous bills.
*D

All it takes for this extortion scheme to go down, is one mass-sue from the victims though

*Goes off to send a shitload of extortion “pay up or else” letters*
Reaper

GO TIME WARNER!!!! At least one company seems to have their head in the game and will not bend over at the sound of a lawsuit.
lolz

if it did not cost Time Warner a lot $$ to harvest the data then they would give up the info. it’s not about customers or privacy, but the $$ fools.
duane

Don’t be deluded by this. Time Warner don’t give a f*ck about their users, just like the rest of them. They’re just lazy!

FFS set up a class action lawsuit against them! We can’t do that in the UK (we don’t have class action), but you certainly do in the US, so USE IT!! Don’t give your $2500 to your extortionists, give it to people might stop them!
Barry

Honestly, it’s not even worth downloading for free. Terrible film.
gorehound

Helped by the U.S. Copyright Group (USCG), the film makers will now be boycotted.whatever films you make we will never buy them new.
the war is on.buy all stuff used.
screw anyone who uses these tactics
#46

>>is the fact that there will be dozens of wrongfully accused people.
[citation needed]
Ettore

I don’t even see why an ISP would keep IP information; it seems so pointless. Almost everyone I know in the US and Canada have dynamic IPs; reboot modem, you get a new IP. From the ISPs point of view, what IP each person has is completely irrelevant so long as they don’t run out of IPs (which is a planning issue, not a logging issue). If it were MY ISP, I would definitely not waste my time holding logs of any transfers; if I needed to troubleshoot something, i’d turn it on, fix the problem, turn it off. As well, I’d setup a pricing scheme for my data: IP logs cost me $45 / IP for information … I’d then provide incorrect and invalid information. If it ever came back, I’d blame it on data corruption or a virus or something.

There is no mandate ANYWHERE to hold information like this AFAIK, so why bother?
Dave Saunders

ip address != person
Alex

It looks like most of the accused were “caught” after the Oscars, so I’m assuming the USCG weren’t tracking the pre-release?
Baby killer

Argggg Matey’s We be Setting for the high sea’s today on this journey from Florida to Spain to evade La MPGAY….
Yarrr Matey!!

How many of the IP-address leasers were responsible for the infringement?

What amount of product did they distribute (was it even one unit?)?

Can we now protest USCG through freedom of expression, by seeding Hurt Locker?
wazo

Think im gonna have to put it on my seedbox and seed at 10mb/s ;)
Irate Pirate

Sure glad I’m on Time Warner. And only 700 IP addresses?

That is retarded. I’m sure A LOT more than that downloaded it.

Fucking assholes.
lolwtf

sigh…

Some people are so fucking retarded that they think that ip = personal ID number.

FFs somebody should be shot.
bitfiddler

@12 ISPs must keep the IP records for a while for legit law enforcement requests – to catch pedophiles and terrorists and such – and that’s a good thing. It’s up to the courts to keep that info from being used to enable a sleazy legal extortion scheme. Sigh!
paul

Whew, searched the first couple of numbers and found one that almost matched mine. Kind of a rush haha
astroboi

Big banks made billions repackaging stuff like crap mortgages, credit card debt and student loans as CDOs. Of course it damn near wrecked the whole financial system when everything crashed but many people made millions and they kept it since they got out before everything went to hell. Now imagine some quants sitting around looking for the next big moneymaker; “Hey, lets buy the rights to sue people from film makers!” Yeah and song writers, and authors and whatever. Then they repackage those rights as bonds, get ‘em rated AAA and we are off again! The world financial system will be bailed out by pirates! Of course when all those millions of college kids can’t come up with trillions of dollars the rotten bonds become worthless. Do you think we can have two major depressions in ten years?
paul

Oh and I don’t know anyone with dynamic IP. That is goofy. Only a moron noob torrent user would have that and not port forward.
bitfiddler

Very interesting that Time-Warner IPs aren’t included. That’s semi-clever of them, for now Time-Warner won’t file a motion in this case to quash the subpoena, and EFF and ACLU might not file the brief supporting Time-Warner. If only the other big ISPs had any gumption this scheme would stop.
Editor

2.500$
What @1 saied.
I ll never watch one of their movies again.(I didnt even watch hurt locker so i guess i made a good start.)
noname

In that picture there is my IP. I will not pay because this is not first time I have receive letter pay or else. Never paid and nothing hapens.
politux

The movie wasn’t even out in theatres when they collected the ip addresses. How does that translate into piracy hurting their bottom line? A download doesn’t equal a lost dvd sale.
Yarrr Matey!!

http://www.filestube.com/2f417d6a410b458503e9/go.html

http://www.filestube.com/8e301b55a718690403ea/go.html

The first one averaged 540kb/s for me and I can confirm it is genuine (v=8/a=8).

If USCG is a 2-man operation, if 1% of those being attacked is 50 people and if over 1% of US civilians suffer from mental health problems, doesn’t that mean that USCG is at risk of being forced to cease operations by a mob of 50 mentally-ill people?

If we attacked their weak points like they attack ours, they’d be toast.
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Lucky Man

this is sooo stupid to see when they need cash… $2,500 from each of victim? oh come on it ain’t like they gonna resell it or something $2,500 for 1 movie? well if they gonna make 2,500 movies then i wouldn’t still gonna buy their crappy movies ever… they’re lamers… im glad i didn’t use bittorrent to download that crappy movies anyways… you gotta be smart which movies you want to get. if newest or recently releases so never use bittorrent… so that’s way most antipiracy nowaday worrying about newest movies like their major top movies watching… so i don’t give a damn, blam, sam i’m ready to jam up their behind…like to get them away from internet or get away from pirate ppl or they gonna make them like one of them….
Yarrr Matey!!

Oh and ACS:Law want a piece of this?

What a joke, I’m sure many of us in the UK could make Andrew Crossley cease operations if we had an incentive that out-weighed the potential punishment we would face.
heeter

@22 – I think you mean @14, right?
Torin050

@8 That is a very very very horrible thing to say.

Why?…
http://torrentfreak.com/warner-bros-recruits-students-to-spy-on-pirates-100329/

The article said it would be too time consuming, not because it wants to protect customer privacy.
me

I just hope nobody pays up and they are forced to take things to court. I highly doubt their evidence will stand up once it is looked at closer.
red

Be sure to never watch movie from them again.
Trelew

The sad thing about this is that these corporate bastards will get away with it. Why? The reason is simple, Americans fear going to court unless they are the ones doing the suing. In the US, one could almost say that litigation has replaced sports as the favourite pastime. People will get sued almost over the most inane thing. As a result, the average citizen will do anything to avoid it like the plague.

It doesn’t matter that if the so-called evidence stands up to scrutiny or not, any cases that actually do go to trial will be nothing more than a “show trial”. The court will be fixed by stacking with corporate-friendly judges or simply told by the government to do so.

Maybe Bin Laden got it wrong, it’s not America that is the enemy…it’s Big Business.
Brosef Stalin

Too bad nobody as set anything up to donate for legal services to the victims.

The ACLU should take the lead on that I know I would donate some cash.
Thraprod

For the record, while I don’t live in an area to have them anymore, Insight is a good company. If they gave shit up, they felt they had no choice. Am surprised they did really.
TerribleTony

Is it just me, or do I see no evidence in that list?
arnie

usenet SSL download “Hurt Locker” Fuck you!!!!
PrebenP

Hahahahaha, what a ridiculous thing to do! IP’s and screenshots gives no proof of anything.. It’s like condeming someone based on their shoe size ??
Jerry Goldsmith

Doesn’t the Pirate Bay and a few other BT trackers inject fake IP data into the swarm? If all they did was record the IP address and when they recorded it, then that shouldn’t count as ‘evidence’.

And can they prove that the data exchanged between hosts was for that movie? Can they take those packets, which are transmitted OUT OF ORDER (as BT must operate) and prove that each little bit is part of their movie?

Do they even know what Bittorrent is… doubtful.
Thanks Torrentfreak!

To those who’s IP’s are one there,

….Tell them your printer did it!
anonymous

This extortion scheme will work with great success, unfortunately. It simply costs more to hire a lawyer and go to court than to settle.

Sad but true.
Scam

The real problem is the cost of defending yourself from lawsuits in the US. People are settling because they are terrified (and reasonably so) that even if they win in court, it will cost them $20K in legal fees.

There needs to be some sort of public defense fund for low dollar-value civil suits. This would discourage tiny lawfirms from filing thousands of lawsuits they can’t possibly litigate, with the stated purpose of extracting a few grand from the people that settle.

The scary thing is, the USCG will probably take a few people to court as an example, just to show that the threat has teeth. The odds are in your favor, but it certainly is a risk.
anon

correct me if im wrong
im pretty sure road runner is the time warner ISP brand
pcdoctor

Well, I’m not on that list, for now anyways lol.
lolz

they don’t have sufficient evidence to find you guilty based off of an IP address. Also represent yourself in court and say “It wasn’t me, not guilty”, again there is not enough evidence. I wonder if they have the MAC address because that would say a lot on either side.
PearBlock

Its time to stop copyright holders monitoring your p2p by blocking them with pearblock http://www.peerblock.com/ Opensource software!
Anonymous

definitely need to block them pears, so tasty and succulent.
Dominic

@28,

A download does equal a lost DVD sale because then they know how shit the actual movie is.
Jay

How do these lawyers have the right to simply request the names behind personal IP addresses? That alone sounds very illegal, especially since we PAID for, and signed contracts to our ISP saying they would protect our identities, right?

I think all the ISP’s should band together and refuse to expose their customer’s PRIVATE information.

What is this, the U.S.S.R.?
NA

LOL! Who the hell pirates on Hughesnet? They have 200mb per 24hrs download caps. Not to mention all their users are NAT’d, so most users have the same IP.

LOL This is rich!
offtopic

is demonoid down for you pinged ip packets fine used mutiple ips sometimes loads can,t log in then no page then sever busy then uable to connect to server anyone
the united hackers association

yup demonoid is down
yhfyt

The Hit date is late April and May…didn’t the screener come out long before that????
Just some guy

It should be mentioned more often that two of the “good” characters of Hurt Locker are active in the movie piracy business.

No, it is not a particularly good film. Probably won because it is a film about Iraq that didn’t make American uncomfortable.
Adam of Movia Desert

Something I was thinking….since these “IP Addresses” are now on the “lawsuit list” – these could be considered “friendly” ISPs, and not “anti” p2p companies….correct?

Since there surely would be no point in file a lawsuit against your own kind :)

I was amazed to see the big name companies and “hosters” (i.e. XO Comm, and Level 3 in particular) on that list…..

Perhaps someone could do some research and find out who or “what” is behind those IP addresses? :) I highly doubt those (the Level 3, and XO Comm addresses in particular) are “residential”….

People p2ping at work per se? :)
tones

Wow. These guys are a-holes. I hope the court doesn’t grant them the ability to subpoena anybody. And I have to give props to Time Warner Cable for standing up to a bunch of bullies. (never thought I’d be saying that).
lol

Wow for once im glad to be with Time Warner.
Cujo

whew!! I’m not on the list

sec ,, checking ta see if my vpn is lol
Cujo

ya noticed too that Demonoid is a little slow these past few days
Anonymous

Already downloaded, but I don’t live in the US. TOO BAD!
lolz

Time Warner is NOT your friend, they simply are not giving up the info because it would cost them $$$ to do so, you fools! They would sell you out in a second if it did not cost them money!
Ric

Nice job filmmakers! You can be assured I will never watch nor pay for their little shite movie, and I will go out of my way to avoid other titles from that co. and director and if I HAVE to see something that co. creates, I will go out of my way to pirate it, fraking PUNKS! I gladly buy and pay for my movie watching privileges, but no more for these a-holes.

See what pissing on your customers gets you! When you query these pirates ask them if they would buy the movie to add to their collection in the future and see what your perceived piracy losses are really worth.
Ric

Nice job filmmakers! You can be assured I will never watch nor pay for their little shite movie, and I will go out of my way to avoid other titles from that co. and director and if I HAVE to see something that co. creates, I will go out of my way to pirate it, fraking PUNKS! I gladly buy and pay for my movie watching privileges, but no more for these a-holes.

See what pissing on your customers gets you! When you query these pirates ask them if they would buy the movie to add to their collection in the future and see what your perceived piracy losses are really worth.
B

At least for me, Road Runner HoldCo LLC is my ISP, though I pay TimeWarner every month. TW folks might not be as in the clear as they think they are, though TW’s claim of time and money may still cause those RR IP’s to never be looked up.
Anonymous

Has it been said where this torrent was hosted? Some fake site they set up? demonoid? piratebay?
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john boy

Hey this reminds me of in those movies people looking on the wall seeing if their sat scores were high enough to get into college. I remember doing this also in high school. I guess I didn’t make the list this time though. I already graduated college so better luck next time.
kickass

yeah i think they just make these complains for movie promotion , nobody has been caught download a movie via bittorrent and if it was what is the proof?
kickass

also what copy they “tracked” MAXSPEED or DEViSE?
E m u l e

Those Hughes net subscribers must have really wanted the movie because they have a 5gb cap on their transfers a month.
demon70

how do u find out if ur ip is on the list
Jerry Goldsmith

@74

You get a letter :p
peter piper

Is anyone surprised by the dates? It looks like this batch only spans just over 1 week – 4/25-5/5 (with a few as early as 4/9)
Anonymous

Those Road Runner IP addresses are Time Warner addresses. Road Runner is Time Warner’s broadband service here in the US.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_Runner_High_Speed_Online

A quick scan shows a couple of those addresses to be known proxies that have hit my routers in the past with abuse issues.

A working download link would be a plus if possible. Scribd requires you to login to download.
Raising Rooster

Can programs like PeerBlock help in being anonymous?
[Quick answer - No, they can't. We'll cover the why in a future article - Ben Jones]
Hurt Locker Sux

To figure out what your current IP address is go to a site like this:

http://whatismyipaddress.com/
Jeff Goldblum

There’s really no way they can prove it. Delete the movie off your hdd, make your router insecure and claim that someone sat outside your house and downloaded it without your permission. You could even go so far as to say you’re against those damn pirates – they’ll like that.
busy

@74
go to http://www.whatismyip.com
Karolis

So, for sharing and seeing one crappy movie you can get 2500$ USD fee? How about asking just to pay the cost like a dvd… Eh, greed. Such a pitiful sight.
ha ha

The first thing you need to do, if served is challenge the venue of the suit. File a motion asserting venue would be more appropriate in your home district.

-I think this is a non suit. Unless you shared the movie with another person. If you are concerned, here is the link to the US copyright law. There is no mention of “download.” Deals with sharing and selling.
ha ha

http://www.copyright.gov/title17/circ92.pdf
CVC

How does 1 person sharing 1 DVD = $2,500 in lost revenue for the film industry?

The most a seed a movie is 2:1 therefore I download 1 copy a share 2 copies worth… 3 x $30= $90

If the fine was reasonable it wouldn’t be as ridiculous.
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Tomas

I find this confusing. Doesn’t TimeWarner own WarnerBros? And aren’t Warner Bros always suing the crap out of torrent sites? Yet they won’t give up the IP addresses of people infringing through their own ISP?
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J2Dope

as soon as I read a few weeks ago the makers where harassing people I went and downloaded this movie from rapidshare

By the way the movie really isn’t that great
Jarrod

Do you guys think they logged from demonoid torrents?
Yellow Sheild

I will be downloading this movie tonight in protest of this.
Hi-Def Lizard

Lol, they deserved to get caught, if they were stupid enough to use torrents.
tones

@ 88
Don’t waste your bandwidth. These jerks and their propaganda aren’t worth it.
Gruber

Everybody should go re-start a Hurtlocker download, set it to download at like 1 KB per second so that the # of downloaders gets astronomically high just to F’k with Voltage Pictures head’s, ha ha.

p.s. anybody who pays the $2500 is a serious moron.
noko

Hurt Locker?

More like Butthurt Locker.
Anonymous

VPN is the way to go. Use a VPN in a P2P friendly country.
Dano

I hope they dont just take screenshots of someones ip adress and call that evidence. Because you can edit screenshots easy in paint ffs
sahith

why so serious?? for making a second movie “Hurt F-uker” ….
Bad_Mojo

gee whiz I guess I better password my wifi router. Some pirates been using it, probably in a winabago.
Bill

To be accurate, Time Warner owns Road Runner, but they license it out to other service providers. Having Road Runner IPs on the list does not necessarily mean they are Time Warner IPs.

Have they made any indication how far back the lawsuit will go? Most of the dates are from late April/early May. Is it likely that the next batch will be more recent downloads from IPs or older ones?
StopTheMadness

USCG can back Uwe Boll. Nobody sane downloads his crap anyway.
Anonymous

This Hurt locker movie is becoming very infamous.

What is this shit anyway?

never heard of it.

Is it some type of super rubbish super boring crap that you have to pay me, for me to watch.

Is it planted on BT by some movie corporation parasites that few people download on accident?

Anyway all of this is BS because with BT it is impossible to know for sure what IP address is doing what.

For one thing TPB and other trackers keep injecting fake random Ip addresses and some of them might correspond to real Ip addresses linked to real people.

Then there is the way TBP work.

(1)Small pieces of Data from others unrelated to what you are sharing or downloading transit through your client copyrighted or not.

(2)Unless you are seeding you share only a very small portion of any file and never the entire thing.
Your Mom

No one was even interested in this film until it won some Oscars. Bittorrent, if anything helped promote the film.
dwpbike

if i were a member of the united states coast guard (uscg), i would be upset that a “group of two” had stolen my acronym.
Eugene

I watched Hurt Locker, liked it and was settled on owning the Blu-Ray.
Then I saw all this mess and decided not to give them any money, wish I hadn’t seen it at the cinema too.
Infinity

I torrented this movie back in January, and all these are from April and May. Does this mean I am probably safe from this lawsuit?
Dano

@ Infinity

Dont worry mate, alot of people downloaded this crappy film. Youv’e proberly got a 1 in a 1000 chance of getting a letter. I f you do get one, ignore it…
Anonymous

Very important information on this case. Seems a judge has the proper sense to deal with this USCG nonsense.

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/06/judge-may-dismiss-4576-of-4577-p2p-defendants-from-lawsuit.ars
uber fail?

1. IP addresses.
2. ???
3. Profit!

@103 If your IP isn’t on the list, then your safe. Idiot.

Hurt locker hurt my eyes, seriously I cannot watch it more than 15 mintues without nausea from the grainy film and camera shakes. Best of luck to the potentially sued, ur own fault for not hiding ur ip.
peter piper

@105 good catch
Anonymous

Download Link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?mnwojdjwymd
uber fail?

This only applies if you were seeding the movie?

If you downloaded 99.3%, then you are safe because you did not pirate the whole movie?

I think these IP’s on the list are ones which were seeding some data and were not peer blacklisted by the client program. That is the only way for sure they would know that they had indeed obtained a copy of the file. But by doing so, they themselves were pirating the movie themselves. The makers can go sue themselves! (is it like getting hold of illegal drugs to prove that someone is in possession of drugs.)

also, if you had not accessed the file, you can claim you downloaded it by accident or it was a virus?
Guardo

@uber, even if you only downloaded 20% of the movie you’re still at risk. By nature whenever you download a torrent you are seeding it at the same time.
Infinity

Uberfail, you obviously have no understanding of the torrent protocol, as well as internet protocol, as well as the nature of this lawsuit.

I asked about the dates of the IP’s in the lawsuit because this file only contains 700/5000 of the IP addresses.

In addition, if I had torrented the move in April or May, I still couldn’t be sure if my IP address was on there unless I kept extensive logs of my past IP addresses.

By nature, almost anyone who is leeching a torrent is also seeding.

The, “this movie sucks, it is your fault you torrented it” argument simple does not hold up because this is a civil liberty at stake, not just the people who torrented this potentially horrible movie. The movie really was not as terrible as you put it to be, and by trying to put all the blame on the people who torrented this movie, you are trying to convince yourself that this lawsuit doesn’t apply to you and will never affect you.
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Anonymous

Was considering purchase of this movie. Now, fugetaboutit.
loman

Many of these ip’s are fakes thrown in by the tracker. Can’t you argue that you were faked by the tracker and win every time?
OverMachoGrande

Guys… in this case, NOTHING REALLY MATTERS because the ridiculous truth is that if you go to trail, a dumbass jury *will* convict you based soley on the fact that your IP address in on a sheet of paper. Doesn’t matter if you did it or not.

We can hate the lawyers (deservedly so), but it’s the dumbasses in the juries that are the scariest thing in this country. They are completely subject to manipulation.

So, if you get a $2500 fine, then you can pay it, or play Russian Roulette and hope you aren’t one of the ones they take to trial. If you go to trial, expect to pay a hundred grand and up.

Juries are stupid stupid stupid.
Anonymous

OMFG
This is ridiculous!
Ramonçito

Hmm, I should start a lawfirm! Easy money :-)
Jorge

Seems alot of you kids out there don’t understand how ISP’s actually keep IP address data. I won’t bore you with the specifics but will point out that every account you have with an ISP is tied to your DSL or cable modem’s MAC address. Each IP you have is recorded in your account record along with when you received that IP and when you stopped using it. So when somebody requests account information from your ISP and gives a specific IP and time, its trivial to return an exact account with legal proof that the IP in question actually belonged to you during the period in question. Now while that does lead back to your place of residence, you may still be able to claim your wifi was open or something. Probably won’t work. All you people claiming you would fight back are fools, absolute fools. Probably young people actually who have never had to go through a real legal process. You don’t understand that to appeal will cost many times more than to settle will, and that is what the RIAA and others know. A class action suit has no ground to stand on really. They have legal proof your IP stole a film, you have nothing but your own word that you didn’t. Guess who’s going to win?

I am not saying I advocate suing of downloaders, I am saying alot of you people don’t seem to understand how this all works. Anyone still using public sites actually deserves to be sued in my opinion. If you are stupid enough to use public torrent trackers then you deserve to get sued for more money than you can afford. Although I shouldn’t be too hard on all you public torrenters. You are easy targets for the RIAA peeps. You definitely keep the heat off of us smarter private site users. So hats off to you, you dumb motherfuckers.
HELP

MY IP-ADDRESS IS ON THAT LIST. WHAT SHOULD I DO???

Seriously help, I’m not even kidding.
Darth_Tater

So like in “The Producers” you could film a piece of crap, not even distribute it to theaters. See that it is on every torrent index and in all the chatter. Then sniff all the IP’s and sue them all for some outrageous amount.

Maximize your profit-Minimize your expenses.

It did not work for Leo bloom and Max Bialystock. Only because Springtime for Hitler was a hit, as was hurt locker.
Come on you guys you could find a better business model. It actually was a pretty good flick.
NinjaPlease

I searched for my IP address, and I didn’t even download the movie. Am I the only one?
Bob

In Tampa FL we pay Brighthouse for our internet but it is actually Road Runner. I noticed there is an IP on this list from Tampa, however after going to whatismyip and also getting into our wireless device it is not ours.

Stupid question, but if we recently switch wireless routers (about 1 month ago) that wouldnt change the WAN IP would it?

I’m pretty sure we are safe, just wanted to ask the experts.

I guess to be short, will the WAN address always stay the same through your provider, even if you switch out devices (routers)?
Bob

Road Runner in Tampa is actually through Brighthouse Networks. I see there is an IP on this list from Tampa (in the ROAD RUNNER section) however after going to whatsmyip I discovered it is not my IP. To be safe, I also went into the router to see the WAN IP and it also is not the same as on the list…

Stupid question. We changed wireless routers about a month ago. Would this change the WAN IP? Or does the WAN IP stay from the day you started service with Brighthouse (or any other ISP)

Thanks
Anonymous

Hurt Locker didn’t secure their movie good enough, so it’s their fault it got infringed upon and they want to pass the blame onto IP addresses instead by claiming it’s peoples’ fault for not securing their IP addresses.

So who is responsible? the movie industry for not securing their movie or people that didn’t secure their IP address?

By the way, the guy that Hurt Locker is based upon is suing them for stealing his life story.
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Anonymous

So couldn’t it be said that they are only collecting data on those who “hit” the torrent and not necessarily download it. Wouldn’t that mean that it’s possible for some of those IP’s to be of computers whose only job is to gather statistics?
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Anonymous

The way they acquire IP addresses is similar to someone standing across the street and recording all the license plate numbers of the cars coming and going from a known drug house and claiming that all the owners of these cars are guilty of buying drugs.
MD3

Tell you what, people should stop sharing this shit!
If you wanna piss them off, simply stop sharing their shit! We know sharing actually boosts their sales, because gives them fame, reverberation across possible buyers. So just stop sharing, delete and stop talking about it. FUCK themselves.

@122 Anonymous: Perfect analogy.
FromOZ

This would probably get quashed in the courts… hehe

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/09/bittorrent_piracy_lawsuit_flap/
Hurt Locker Sucks

Fuck these assholes. I wasn’t even the slightest bit interested in their stupid fucking Hurt Locker movie, but seeing what these cockbites are trying to do to people, I’m DL’ing their piece of shit just so I can delete it off my motherfucking hard drive. And then I think I’ll download it AGAIN — and do the same thing. I hope those responsible for this debacle have their dicks (or tits, as the case may be) turn plaid and rot off.
fullon

Imagine getting sued for downloading that piece of crap!
CasualT

@Bob
Your ISP will choose your IP address, your router is irrellevant. I presume you are using a static IP as opposed to a Dynamic one. In any case I wouldn’t worry about being on the list in any case..

@121
As has been stated many times over these lists are NOT proof. Merely statistics that give them a group of people they can target for lawsuits. Would they take them to court to try prove a point. I highly doubt they would as it would be more likely to go in the favour of defendants.
Bryan

I wonder if anyone has knowledge of the the ip’s or ip range that was used by the people collecting this data. It would be interesting to see if it’s in my block list or not.
But it looks like my ip is not on there anyways.

Even if it was, there really isn’t much to worry about. It’s like convicting somebody of a crime based on a license plate number. It’s not going to hold up unless you can prove that the person you suspect was actually in the driver’s seat.

A number that identifies a machine on a network has no representation of who is operating the machine. There’s just no way that this [lack of] evidence is an acceptable basis for their allegations. If they do decide to take people to court, the percentage of people that will be wrongly convicted is outrageous. Many households share computers. I let several people use my personal computer for that matter. It doesn’t mean that I’m the one who consciously decided to download a copy of a copyrighted work just because it was done with an ip address that is registered to the computer that I own.

I guess all I am trying to say is that if our judicial system is truly bound to the “innocent until proven guilty” ideology, then there is no way that this document is substantial grounds for conviction for any of the supposed users of any of those ip addresses. Simple as that.
Bryan

And to follow up on my last comment;

If you do receive one of their letters, remember that they DO NOT have proof. You don’t need to settle with them, and if you do you are only enabling their injustice to society. This is extortion and is morally unacceptable regardless of legality.
Stankenstein

Thank god my IP wasn’t on that list. I have a security clearance, which I’d probably lose if my name ever came up as a defendant in a file-sharing case. If I got one of the settlement extortion letters, I’d have no choice but to pay up, just to keep my info confidential.

Yeah, that’s right: Hollywood’s shyster lawyer tards are willing to keep your info confidential, but your ISP isn’t.
Unnecessarily Long Misspelled Nickname

I think the appropriate response, if you received one of these letters, would be to go to Windows Explorer or the Finder or whatever, and search for “Hurt Locker” and then print off the page saying, presumable, “No results found.” Send this back to them, indicating there must be a mistake, because you obviously haven’t downloaded it.

What does such a piece of paper prove? Exactly the same thing that a piece of paper with a time (with no indication of what Timezone it’s supposed to be) and an IP address, generated by some random German company and sent to some fly-by-night shyster lawyers who can’t be bother to make sure all the links on their website work or that all the words are spelled properly proves.

I mean, I understand that the burden of proof in a civil trial is completely different than a criminal trial, but isn’t this just basically hearsay? “Your honor, I have indisputable proof in the form of a couple of numbers sent to me by some company in Germany that this guy stole my movie. Seriously. You can trust Germans.”

Rrrrrriiiiight.
Name

Send them a damn message by not paying $hit! Wtf are they gonna do? Noncompliance is the way to go folks!!!
whoamI

Going after the majority on the internet gives people more reason to pursue anonymity. It’s already possible to be more or less untraceable on the internet via combination of vpn, encryption, darknets etc. Most people don’t do that yet, but when shit hits the fan and the extortion schemes are on the headlines, people won’t stop downloading, they start thinking if there’s another way to do this.

Everyone probably knows the one guy who knows a bit more about computers and how be anonymous and it won’t take long until hiding your internet activity becomes the norm. It’s getting easier all the time.

No matter what the oppressors do, there’s always someone who can circumvent that. After all what is a few paid programmers compared to a Legion. Motivated people have always found their way. And also there are many completely legit reasons to be untraceable, yet connected. eg. political

Sad part of all this is that even tracking the real criminals becomes impossible. Just because of corporate conservatism and greed. Had they embraced filesharing since the times of Napster… Open data makes the world a better place, (see TED talk about open data)

*Sigh*
MrGz0r

Not on the list,so F*** Hurt locker people. I’m still alive i will not a apologizes ^_^
panda chops

BOYCOTT the Fart Knocker
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Nuff_Said

The Shit Locker
NeuroBot

@82 Good one – they haven’t got a leg to stand on!!
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Jarrod

Who would the letter come from? Our ISP or the hurt locker producers and their lawyers?
Ninja

If they demanded a DVD worth of cash (ie: $20) and maybe extra $5 to cover their costs I would be *less* outraged. It would still be a complete idiocy though.

You know when a movie is horrible and when Oscar nominations are bought when they resort to desperation methods like this. Wait, Oscar is synonym to set up results.. heh
Dan

This is so wrong..
Anonymous

Don’t buy The Shit Locker.
Jerry Woods

Scary, thats what you get when you dont mask your real IP address.
John

The movie is over-rated.
tom

well, i guess i better download it now and see what the fuss is all about. and seed!
Zensilby

I hope they DO get the settlement from all those individuals. Here’s a thought…. Go buy the flippin movie. Hey, that was easy!
Jordan

So I wonder when someone is going to tell them that IP addresses are easily changed and give very little indication as to the actual information of the person. Even then, most ISPs aren’t very cooperative as it takes much effort to actually track someone down.

And I bet more than a few people here are falsely accused…
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roy

Question:

How do dynamic IPs work in this kind of situation? I’m thinking ISPs probably track who had what IP at what time?

Also has anyone ever heard of someone using the defense ‘there are x number of people living in my house, I didn’t download the material in question and I cant reasonably be expected to control the actions of others in my house’

I’m talking about people not related to you not spouses and children. Like a house of university students.
Jordan

Hardly makes sense at their exorbitant prices. Why would I pay x5 as much as the movie is worth when I can just download it for free? For years I’ve been under the thumb of huge industries that suck my wallet dry and give very little money to the artists that produce the content. Not anymore, I refuse to support such a ridiculously corrupt and self serving industry. True parasites on the modern artist.
David Davidson

LOL

Free Wireless FTMFW

l2internet
Anonymous

I hope they downloaded it in 1080p.
gedster314

Maybe the people who get the letters need to do a search to see how easy it is for people to spoof your cable modem’s MAC address. Once a modem is spoofed that person then can cruise the net, download and hack into systems and any trace will point back to the spoofed modem and not the actual offending modem.
and3w

The ironic thing is that the torrent of this film has been out for at least a year, so the people they are liable to have snared-ish are likely to be just ‘ohhh, I saw that on the oscars, I’ll d/l it’ types. Anyone who was d/l this for commercial profit did it AGES ago.
Idiots.
money

Screw getting a job. I’m just going to make a crappy movie, lure people to download the movie through torrents, log the IPs and send out letters/sue each person for $2500 saying they infringed my rights.

I’d make as much money as I currently do yearly in about a week.

BEST BUSINESS MODEL EVER. Anyone want to help me make a movie? $$$ is waiting all of us! We can all be millionaires!
liascos

funny thing.
i saw the film.
on dvd. a friend bought it, then lent the disc to me, i still have it. i should lend it to another friend huh?
assclowns!
Anon

Some info on Time Warner Cable:

As of 2009 it is no longer owned by Time Warner (Warner Bros, etc.).

Also I am a TWC customer; when I change my router they will give me a different IP. Makes me think their IPs are tied to the mac addresses of the routers you use and not your modem.
privacy input

Outside the US, your IP Address is considered personally identifiable information as the ISP can tie back who had which IP Address at what time.

If you knew your next-door neighbor’s MAC address, you could switch your modem to show that address and download whatever you want. When you’re done, switch it back. True. The conflict of addresses would be recorded in their logs, but who knows how often flags of that sort are reviewed.

What’s the billing rate of these lawyers? 500 an hour? if that’s the case, just think of ways that you can tie them up for over 5 hours and eat into their profits.
Anonymous

Good luck suing my entire apartment complex. Thank goodness for NAT.
peter piper

very interesting article about what happens next: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/06/songs-of-innocence.ars
Anonymous

I can’t see the ip list. Anyone else having this problem?
security guy

As your local friendly @edu security guy, let me just say the following :

“this is why we delete the logs after 14 days”.
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Anonymous

Why don’t someone find these lawyers IP’s and send them a letter saying they downloaded and see if they pay.
newartriot

Simple solution to this.

Find the addresses of some media blowhards who are a bit stupid, Oprah Winfrey, some other media black activists and Church priests, some politicians, lawyers, and generally well known liberal types.

Type a professional looking letter and address it to their house, ensuring it looks entirely legit.

Imagine the media outrage as hundreds of mini-celebrities with big egos get final demand summaries for $2,500. It would feel beautifully like the end of fight club.

Fuckers are only using a war film for ‘patriot support’ for their test case.

PS i’m not American so fuck knows whether this is legal or not. I advise against it but I may chuckle if successful.
L. Wrong Flubber

Never defend. Always attack.
Anonymous

How many innocent open wifi victims will we hear about this time?

So much fail.
George Lucas

Anyone that has downloaded this garbage is a moron. Maybe if Hollywood invested money in another Star Wars trilogy then pirates would have something of value to download. PS…… THX 4 EVER!!!!
RendonN

dmbass ROAD RUNNER IS TIME WARNER.

in california.
Whermn

I’m guessing Peerguardian can’t help you this time.
Anonymous

Next time don’t download shitty movies?
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Dylan

My neighbor is on this list.
Dylan

Also this is illegal under the DCMA. I call counter-suit.
elduka

thank god i think i dogged this one :) i hope they dont have anything of earlier downloads or i could be fucked
p-dog

my dog uses the computer
c0ld

lol, spoofed modem hahaha
Personontheinternetrightnow

Road Runner is Time Warner
Jacob

Damn… not on the list. These assholes better get sued right back at them.
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slife

fuck, i just looked it up and it looks like a good movie…. i will not buy this but being v& sucks… dilemma
WaltG

$2500? How about the dvd price of the film?
StevO

Dont call people idiots if their IP address isnt on that list. Hell Nobodys CURRENT ip address is on that list. Especially if its dynamic. About once a month most peoples IP address changes. SO even if yoor address is on that list RIGHT NOW, most likely you didnt have the IP back then.
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phred

If most of the people that receive
letters cancel their internet service
from their current ISP,
All the shared info will dry up in 10
minutes.
jc

what about all the people who downloaded it and had a physical copy of the movie. just trying to convert it to put it on a zune is so tiresome.
shell

@ 182 by WaltG

They(we) are paying for the rest of the people who downloaded this (dumb)film, 20$ each won’t pay for the “loses” from pirating. Like those fucks don’t make enough money already.
Kaptain Krunch

Some lawer has challenged this case:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/09/bittorrent_piracy_lawsuit_flap/
anon

Hurt Locker sucked – stole Avatars Oscar, now it’s trying to “reclaim” your $$$ LOL
Doink

pay up suckers.

wawawa
europe

Downloading it now – will seed to 20:1 for both releases.

I encourage you to do the same!
anon

Oh no i left my wireless open…it couldn’t have been me!
Shellfish

Kaptain Krunch thanks for the article, good read.
Patrick

*5 million people pirate some movie no one cares about*

*Prosecute 700*

Clearly this is a victory for the ages
gfds

they should put the IP in order so i can look for myself
downloading

*downloads hurt locker*
lolwat

If they are still tracking down-loaders, I say people start seeding false Hurtlocker torrents of similar file sizes with just garbage data. Will slow down their efforts.

Also they should mail back a copy of Hurtlocker to whomever pays up the 2500 for it.
John Doe

*rips hurtlocker, makes copies for anyone who wants one*
zoe

*downloads hurt locker*
James

I have a question. It says the first batch of 700 IP addresses were recorded in the last week of April and the first week of May.

Does that mean that’s when they first started tracking? Or that’s just when this sample is from? Could they have been tracking prior to April?

I downloaded this movie several months ago. I’m not sure when exactly.. I want to say December, but it could have been as late as February.

Am I safe, do you think?
J

Come on People this is Ridiculous With the economy the way it is… these Torrent movie downloads give us Lower class a easy way to watch movies and listen to music we love and Now lawsuits how about sue the guy providing these movies proberlly sumone working for Time warner that got leaked from own employees.. Time to look in ya own backyard Time Warner instead of screwing over working class stiffs
Anonymous

@199

Hard to say. I’d guess they started tracking IPs no earlier than a couple weeks before OSCARs, and then they are continuing to track.

The announcement came out from the Hollywood esquire that they were going to sue around May 12. Oscars were mid-march. They wouldn’t announce they were going to sue without the data collected. They were able to collect 700 IPs in a week, 5000 could only take another couple of weeks.

It seems to add up.
Anonymous

Should some of the folks that received a settlement letter consider a counter-suit. If you have something valuable and leave it laying around, is it my responsibility to protect it? I think not. The media companies are focused on tracking down the ‘abusers’, all the while leaving their wares out in the open for all to take. Before they are allowed to pursue the ‘abusers’, they should be forced to lock down their assets so that the list of ‘abusers’ isn’t continuing to grow. Using the current strategy, it seems that they are increasing their market share, by continuing to allow the media to be downloaded, and therefore creating more ‘abusers’ that they can sue. It’s probably easier than creating a good movie and expecting people to pay the ticket price to see it.
Kaptain Krunch

LOL! The hotel down the road with free public wifi if going to get sued.
SeedBabySeed

Wait ’til internet cafes, clients with unprotected wi-fi signals, libraries, workplaces whose employees “downloaded”, and government officials (who also “download”) all start getting those MAFIAA letters :^p
This will then turn into a HUGE circus, and a fiasco of equal proportions as the BP oil spill!
Pirate Party

It’s very interesting to me that you are out to make a buck on people when your movie flopped in the box office. You movie companies fail at life because you can’t find any other way to make up for your loss. Bit Torrent will live on and movie companies will go away.
Key Cipher

Wow, such brilliant people… Hmmm, rented mine for .99 cents and ripped it with perfect quality and in 5.1 Dolby.. Not even concerned..
Key Cipher

But I do agree, the USCG is standing on a cliff edge of a technicality and most ignorant people who recieve just a plane letter out of the mail from anyone slightly ressimbling a lawyers office will freak out and immediatly send cash…
smartlawsuits

Apparently they probably find your indentity.. then do a credit check on the owner of the account to see if they have money. No use suing the poor.. as the saying goes you can’t get blood from a stone. We’re also about 8 years into mainstream broadband in major metro areas being about 10+ megabits. There would be riots in the streets if the copyright holders could do enough damage to strike fear into p2p downloaders & copyright violators. Only the rich who have something to protect will find loopholes to get the pirated movies & music in such a way that they are protected. So, in the end this will be an epic fail. Isn’t it amazing they picked on a shit movie to start suing about.. not Shrek, not Avatar, etc… a piece of shit called “Hurt Locker”.. really? what a waste. Just as useful (and potenially successful) as the Riaa suing over Metallica songs a generation ago.
legal defense dujour

The poor security at AT&T allowed someone to hack my Ipad & download the content and push the blame onto me. I blame Apple and AT&T, they’ve got your $150k go.. attack! This defense has much legal merit as any accusation…
Anonymous

To get stuck paying $2500 for a movie that is not even worth a $1 rental fee.

Hurt Locker was the worst war movie ever. I guess the worthless academy wards have gone to the heads of the makers.

$15,000,000 budget.

5,000 * $2,500 = $12,500,000

Few more and they have recovered production cost.

Gross Revenue $40,016,144

$12,500,000 is more than 30% of the gross revenue.

This is absolutely extortion. They should be able to sue the users for the retail value of a DVD or Blue Ray + legal costs, nothing more.
Anonymous

@172

And why wouldn’t it?
Anon

202:

You’d be taking a gamble. And the legal fees you would encounter if you tried to fight them would likely be significantly higher than the settlement, which is why most people will just pay up.

Chances are they won’t go forward with the lawsuits with the people who refuse to settle, but you’d also be taking a huge risk by betting on that.
Ancillae

here is a download of the ips:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/omgyyytqdzy/32726320-Volt-Pict-2573095-3-3943.pdf
Anonymous

Looking at the list of IP addresses, I noticed something. Most of them are in groups of 10, sorted by ISP. Is that unusual? That they would choose 10 targets per ISP and then move on to the next one?
Goerge Busch

They need to cover the cost of bribing the Oscar committee for the awards.
Dave

This has been going on for a long time – CCS LABS (www-ccs-labs.com) have lots on the cases which proves very interesting reading and should solve some of the problems people are having here.
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Einstein

WOW! Looks like the ips were collected in a 10-day perios from roughly April 26 thru May 5, and as someone else pointed out the list only include 10 ips per ISP. Even if you downloaded The Hurt Locker during that perios, the odds of your ip being on that list are very thin.
Even DSL extreme is on that list! Now, what would Leo Laporte have to say to that?
Another question that nobody is asking is this: Why would they advertise the list of ip addresses in the first place? What is the purpose of doing that? Are they trying to scare people from downloading? Mmmm?
http://www.torrents.to/search/btjunkie/the%20hurt%20locker
Anonymous

217:

I don’t think they’re necessarily advertising the ip addresses. They had to submit this list to the court, which would have made it available on public record, which may be how this list made it here.

And you’re right, with only 10 ips per ISP, odds are you aren’t going to be on the list even if you were downloading in that time.

I personally downloaded the movie months ago, back in like January I think. What has me (slightly) worried is that maybe they’re not being entirely truthful about when the ips were tracked, though I can’t think of why they’d lie about that.
cheddar

But why? This movie was Teri-bad. I wouldn’t even bother dl-ing this as it’s not even worth watching for free… Oh. I get it. They had to make money on this somehow.
mcfly

I DL the movie i loved it and i then bought it on blu ray!! i wish i never bought it i dont want to give those azz holes money.
Dad

The worst piece of crap a Hollywood whore has ever made. Nice shit, sue the world, your “film” is not worth anyway.
Avatar

Contact Avatar Makers and ask them to sue Hurt Lockers for winning a fake OSCAR just coz hurt lockers was PRO US Movie and Avatar somewhat opposite
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ace

watta freakin waste of everbody’s time and money…hope a lot of ppl can pool together and get a common lawyer to defend themselves against these monsters..thank god the indian judicial system takes 20years to depose cases…we’re gonna be the piracy capital one day..
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joesmith

*Downloads Hurt Locker*

oh wait… I’ve already downloaded and watched the movie !!

guess imma SEED TILL I BLEED
StevO

F@@@ em just start SELLING and MAKING copies. If they want CRIMINALS then might as well BE one.
SELL SELL SELL and MAKE COPIES!!
If they want to treat us like criminals then we might as well be criminals. Might as well PROFIT if they are going to make you PAY like one. If you are CONSIDERED GUILTY, you might as well BE GUILTY!!!
SELL SELL SELL and make COPIES! YOU ARE BEING TREATED LIKE CRIMINALS.
Noone

Just a note- most IP’s have stated that they keep logs going back about 1.5 years, in case they are asked for them by law enforcement officials. You see, you don’t need a REAL warrant to access anything considered a “log” today- look up “Pen/Trace Warrants”, “Verizon police geolocation tool”, or “IP Law enforcement Leaked Price List Cox” or something similar if you are unaware of just how “on record” you really are. As for this “Hurt Locker” crap; this just seems like a way for movies that SUCK and therefore don’t do well enough in ticket sales to “recoup” (read: extort) ALL the tickets sales that went unsold to ALL those people who instead must have DOWNLOADED the movie and watched it. As stated above- enough people know how to properly hide themselves when using torrents that I would imagine a NUMBER of people would be told that they owed $1500 when they might never even have HEARD of the stupid movie. Also, as stated above, all it will take is enough of those people to file a class action suit against the company acting on the behalf of the particular movie in question for it all to go to S^%T for THEM.
Survival of the fittest- IF you download a movie and you ENJOYED it then at least buy it on DVD when it comes out or something. If it SUCKS, then delete the file and the crappy movie gets NO money with which to go and make MORE crappy movies. Or, if you have no money to buy the movie, at least try to promote it by telling people you know to go see it/buy it. Same thing goes for EVERYTHING you download, really.
Anonymous

Correct me I’m wrong, but it sounds like these 700 IP addresses have merely been submitted to the court.

The court hasn’t yet made a decision about revealing the identities associated with the IPs, have they?
kerverosel

many are using open wifi routers without password, so how can you be blamed if someone is downloading from the next building? Also, many local authorities, coffeshops, hotels etc in europe are offering free wifi hotspots. so ip is nothing and cannot stand up in any serious court
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AllYouDoIsTalk

Quit calling counter sue or class action unless you are actually going to fucking do it. Either take action or take it up your ass.

“Nut up or shut up” ~Woody H.
AsteriskCGY

Well you really can’t argue its a bad film. Won an Oscar and all. At most really they should force everyone to buy a BD copy of the thing.
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IP Freely

Man these guys still live in the darkages if they think IP=Person.

Serves any of you right for downloading a piece of crap.
Adam of Movia Desert

I hope whoever was caught, were using some IP filter of SOME Sort….all it takes is parsing their “allowed” connections carefully around their date/time stamp that the MAFIAA caught them, and those IPs could potential be the “antis” that caught them.
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