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isoHunt Loses US Lawsuit Against Movie Studios

Following a 2006 complaint by several Hollywood studios, a US federal court in California has ruled that isoHunt is guilty of inducing copyright infringement. Due to the similarities between this case and earlier ones involving Napster and Grokster, the judge decided there is no need to proceed to a full trial. Summary judgment was granted.

isohuntIn September 2006, just months after the infamous Pirate Bay raid, the US movie studios turned their attention to isoHunt and other associated websites. Columbia, Disney, Tristar, Twentieth Century Fox, Universal and Warner Bros issued a complaint, stating that isoHunt owner Gary Fung operated file-sharing services and profited from copyright infringement.

On December 21st 2009, a US federal court in California ruled that isoHunt is indeed guilty of violating US copyright law by way of inducement, with the operators having engaged in “purposeful, culpable expression and conduct, aimed at promoting infringing uses of the websites.”

In noting the similarities between this case and earlier ones involving both the Napster and Grokster file-sharing services, Judge Stephen Wilson ruled that a full trial was not required and granted the plaintiffs request for summary judgment.

As noted by Michael Geist, the court also concluded that inducement liability and the safe harbor provisions under the DMCA are incompatible. In this case it means since isoHunt was found to have induced infringement, it did not qualify for safe harbor.

In common with the Mininova court defeat earlier this year, the court was critical of isoHunt (and associated sites) staff actions on the site and in their forums.

The court said the clearest instance of encouraging users to commit infringements was the ‘Box Office Movies’ section of the site. These pages listed the top 20 highest-grossing movies in the US, for which users were invited to upload associated torrents.

“By implementing this feature,” said the court, “Defendants engaged in direct solicitation of infringing activity.”

Furthermore, when isoHunt generated torrent categories, such as ‘Top 20 Movies’, the court said that the fact that these lists “almost exclusively contained copyrighted works and that Defendants never removed these lists” indicated that isoHunt knew about ongoing infringement yet failed to take action to stop it.

Several other instances of staff members giving users advice on how to download copyright movies (including providing .torrent links), rip copyright DVDs and use software such as PeerGuardian were also cited.

Even the forum user ranking system didn’t escape criticism. Since user ranks included titles such as “I pir4te, therefore I am” and “All Day I Dream About W4rez,” the court concluded that the Defendants “promoted their users’ infringing activities by consciously fostering a community that encouraged – indeed, celebrated – copyright infringement.”

The court’s judgment can be downloaded here, or viewed online here. At 46 pages long it’s a pretty heavy read, but contains essential information for anyone interested in what can’t be done when operating a torrent site or other similar service in the US.

At this stage it’s unclear if isoHunt will appeal the US decision, but of course, in the meantime the site is fully operational in Canada, and will remain so for the foreseeable future.

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  • scott

    well, that sucks, but I guess it doesn’t matter too much, there are always other indexers.

  • Anonymous

    That really sucks!

  • bitwise

    It will continue to run for all I know. They should move hosting to a ‘friendlier’ nation..

  • Thraprod

    Summery Judgement? They don’t even get their day in court? That’s freakin’ lame!

  • GuyFawkes

    hey Mr. Movie Studios, BTW, why dont you close the HOLE internet as it’s basically a file sharing system ? every download/upload operation is a file sharing *lol*, you god damn movie studio pirate, ever wondered how many copyright infringement you guys are doing ? never mind, one day it will turn on you.

    btw, mr. Hollywood executives, ask the pirates that you sue why they download your produect.

    because they love it, or because they hate it ?

    guess what ? because they love it.

    if you people start using p2p networks to promote your work and advertise DVD or BlueRay releases you will $$$profit$$$

    imagine a advertise of the next most downloaded series box in the corner of isoHunt I guess you guys would sell millions

    if you cant beat you enermy join him

    /you’ll be welcome

    /just stop thinking that you’ll be going too far with this lawsuites bullshits.

    /copyright holders, you’re digging a very dangerous hole for yourself.

    more 2 come in the future

  • Anonymous

    Damn isohunt and mininova were my favorites. I guess hiring lawyers for a witch hunt is cheaper then innovating. Be a cold day in hell before I spend money at movie theater again though. For as much as they are charging for a ticket at the door I can go see live entertainment. That way if even the show sucks (as is so often the case with movies lately) I can at least be entertained by the people around me.

  • Xcel

    LoL… @3 Their in Canada…Not the US anymore…

    As for the court location “California? Come-on, completely biased. Hollywood, shit the damn governor is an actor…

    I would be screaming *Retrial if I were ISOHunts lawyers.. Change of venue..

    Total BS..

  • Hom3r

    The site is hosted and run in Canada, does it really matter what a US court says?

  • uu

    Well, that blows any illusion that the DMCA Safe Harbor was actually worth anything out of the water.

  • diarRIAA

    Umm…the ruling was in the US and ONLY enforceable in the US. The DMCA means nothing in Canada, and the US can not shut down an organization in another country.

    Umm…Canada is not an American state. ISOhunt is not located in the United States.

    No matter what, the RIAA/MPAA creates alot of publicity for themselves and thanks to them when they shut down one site, one hundred more pop up. I remember when piracy was only limited to IRC chat rooms with only a few hundred pirates. Thanks to the RIAA/MPAA and the publicity they create they’re responsible for curiosity seekers that now runs in the millions.

    The more publicity the RIAA/MPAA creates the more sites pop up, and brand new millions of pirates pop up. They started the ball rolling, and now they can never stop it.

    Imagine if we had 1 billion file sharers. This will happen one day if the RIAA/MPAA keeps on going. This is why they want to control ISP’s because they know they created this problem themselves. If they do manage to control ISP’s, people can always swap on megagigabyte thumb drives. I already do this. :)

  • zeebart

    the US sticking their noses up peoples ass` in other countries??

    gee, there`s a suprise…NOT!

    i live in the US, but i gotta say that`s f**ked up :(

    just one more reason to keep on d/lin`

  • a/s/l

    meh, i used to use it to search for xdcc packs, but i never thought it was much good at torrent indexing.

    btjunkie for public bollocks.

  • Phoenix

    i wonder how much indexers they can sue !
    i mean there is no end to them :)

  • GuyFawkes

    @dia

    You got the point.

    They do not want to END piracy they want to keep the ball rolling because they make a LOT OF MONEY OUT OF IT.

    chasing pirates is a lucrative business that’s why the laws and the court decisions has to change because the way it’s now they’re using the same business model that the mafia uses (not mafiaa, mafia like the drug dealers mafia). the name of this is extortion.

    another problem is that they are very ambitious as the guys that work for antipiracy organization are the tipically loosers, not cool guys that wants a lot of money to think that they’re the best.

    they really dont mind about the hole thing. if you know, kill dogs would give a lot of money they would wage against dogs, they’re empty and this is the danger.

    they’re pretty much nazists. cold, not care about people only money.

    so, if government give power to these guys we’ll have a huge step back at our democratic conquers bc these guys dont care about wealth care they care about money and that’it. actually they want more power to be ABOVE the governemnts just like dictators.

    thet’s why i say: copyright dictators

    copyright nazists is what they are.

    IF YOU ARE A JUDGE OR A PROSECUTOR AND READ THIS, PLEASE, BE AWARE OF THE KIND OF POWER YOU GIVE TO ORGANISATIONS LIKE MPAA, MAFIAA OR IFPI. THINK ABOUT HOW CAN THIS GO VERY FAR.

    *******IF YOU WORK WITH LAWS START STUDING SECURITY ON NETWORKS AND YOU’LL FIND OUT THAT THE PROCESS TO DISCOVER A PIRATE IS THE SAME PROCESS TO CRACK PERSONAL DATA FROM PEOPLE, DATA LIKE EMAILS PASSWORD OR BANK ACCOUNT, IM NOT KIDDING ON THIS – ANTIPIRACY OGANIZATIONS HAVE THE RIGHT TO CRACK INTO COMPUTERS ? THIS IS WAY WORST THAN “SHARING”********

    THIS HAVE TO STOP AS IF IT CONTINUES PEOPLE WILL ANONIMIZE EVEN MORE AND COPYRIGHT ORGANIZATIONS WILL WANT TO SPY VERY DEEPEN ON US, SO DEEP THAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE A REMOTE CONNECTION (ie: i see what you’re seeing on your desktop)

    SO I BAG TO LAW PPL AND GOVERNMENT PPL:

    *DONT GIVE POWER TO PRIVATE ORGANISATIONS THIS IS MUCH MUCH MUCH MORE DANGEROUS THAN THIS 15-YEARS-OLD PIRATES (COOL PPL DOWNLOADING STUFF FOR FUN AND GOING TO THE CINEMA EVERY WEEK, PAY FOR TV CABLE, BUY SOME CD, DL SOME MUSIC INNOCENT PEOPLE)*

    *ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THOSE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN SOCIAL IMPROVEMENT. THEY’RE NOT INTERESTED IN CULTURE ITSELF SO PLEASE, THINK TWICE ON EVERY DECISION YOU TAKE IN COURT*

    tnks

  • Anonymous

    All day, I dream about w4r3z
    hmmm korn should remake there adidas song.

  • Anonymous

    Ha ha ha oh wow.

    Hold on, buying a judge in my country and declaring all xxAA activities illegal. I wonder how that’ll roll.

  • diarRIAA

    Dude…caps lock is not your friend.

  • gorehound

    Columbia, Disney, Tristar, Twentieth Century Fox, Universal and Warner Bros should be boycotted.they want a war so we give em a war.

    Stop buying their products new.that will send them a message to stop frakking with us.
    stop feeding the greedbags.
    buy your movies used and don’t pay at the theater.

  • Lo Fo Cha #6

    “I pir4te, therefore I am” and “All Day I Dream About W4rez,”

    New top music hits coming to a p2p application near you

    Watch for the singles collection hitting the networks soon.

  • bread man

    thanks again Holywood / Mafiaa for spreading the good word of file sharing. If it was not for you I would have never heard about isohunt. And while I’m at it I’m gonna go right over there now and get the latest “stuff” available. Keep at it, maybe you will lead me to another site in a few days, and another and another and another.

  • Omega50

    “isoHunt Loses US Lawsuit Against Movie Studios”,

    I think we should point out that the lawsuit in the USA was the MPAA companies suing isoHunt. It is Canada where isoHunt has instigated court proceedings on its own behalf.

    The biggest indexer of torrent files is still Google. Good luck when you take on that giant if you have the balls, mpAA$

  • Bad MoJo

    What did you expect?
    All the politicians and judges in California are whores for the media industry. They are elected with campaign funds from all the movie houses.

    Can you say Kangaroo?

    Where is the inducement?

    right.
    yeah.

  • Jay

    Actually there can be a silver lining to this..

    The court has stated what it finds objectional about this site.

    So for all the other sites simply remove things like “box office hits” and other stuff do not directly involve them selfs with the people using the site.

    The more sites that get taken to court the more we learn how to defeat there accusations.

  • hmm

    i hope all americans feel deeply ashamed of their ridiculous government and its attitude displayed towards the rest of the world. Sort it out guys, its way beyond a joke

  • markie

    The movie studios should just go and get f****d. Suing isoHunt over Xmas. Money hungry greedy bastards.

  • Daily Votes

    I believe the people getting daily votes will balance this abuse of law.

    You get people to vote alongside their judges and politicians and you’ll get the facts to collect and compare.

    If the guys at the top are corrupt, just need to make the online polling website /w 1/2 decent security for double votes.

    Morality and legality are all too often confused. Legal = correct/right?

    Not if people are buying the laws. :P

    How to change the laws themselves? Why by having a vote/voice/opinion about EVERY law. by 360 million North Americans (or 7 billion Earth people is prob best to look at).

    …illegal Mexicans included ;)

  • Whatever

    Wasn’t it too complicated to pass a fast judgement in another case to declare torrent site activities legal in Canada (it may have been isohunt too). Now a US judge decides it can be decided almost instantly. It shows how relative laws and justice are. What is or is not allowed only depends of what someone minority pays or majority believes.

    It’s very coincidental that any case against filesharing are always faster than the other way around. Then it takes ages to get justice.

    Offtopic.
    Finally demonoid seems to be working for me too, it says they are “test running” but ratio is still there so it looks OK to me.

  • Drake3

    Remember that this is not the important trial for isoHunt. This was just a silly trial held far away from isoHunt and out of the California court’s jurisdiction. The important trial is the one which will be coming up in Canada, in this article:

    http://torrentfreak.com/isohunt-asks-court-to-legalize-its-operations-091127/

    The outcome of that is the one that matters. This one can pretty much be ignored, though it is kinda funny that they even did it.

  • Jeff

    Good luck collecting on that summary judgement, MPAA.

    You morons should just face it that you’re probably not going to get one penny out of isoHunt.

  • Grok

    “In noting the similarities between this case and earlier ones involving both the Napster and Grokster file-sharing services, Judge Stephen Wilson ruled that a full trial was not required and granted the plaintiffs request for summary judgment.”

    So the judge is incompetent when it comes to law. Good to know.

  • Cujo

    bing also indexes torrents and if u go to
    http://www.bing.com
    and down in the right hand corner u have “legal”
    http://help.live.com/help.aspx?project=searchtou&market=en-ca and if u go to the bottom of that page u can read:
    Respect Copyright

    Please respect the rights of artists and creators. Content such as music, photos and video may be protected by copyright. People appearing in content may have a right to control use of their image. You may not share other people’s content unless you own the rights or have permission from the owner.

    do as i say and not as i do ;)

  • United Hackers Association

    if you want to have a war with them you also need to look at companies associated to them and begin to make or manufacture those goods locally

    you’d be surprised how deep the …rabbit in this case runs.

    and i finally get to say this
    I TOLD YOU SO

    all this being nice and crap did not stop the problem.

  • Anonymous

    It seems like it means absolutely nothing that isoHunt lost this lawsuit. But that can’t be right. Can it?

    Am I missing something?

  • surprised

    I’m not even surprised about this decision since the case was held in the US court.

    The only reason why other country still comply to the US is because the US likes to threaten other country specially with there stupid nukes.

  • stfunoobs

    this thread is infected with engrisher’s disease

  • Anonymous

    Doesn’t surprise me at all. You can’t really host a torrent site in the US anymore.

  • ken-adams

    Disgusted.

  • Anonymous

    @stfunoobs

    Not everyone who posts on this site uses English as their first language, many are from, like you know, other countries from around, like the, you know world! Your literary skills are also lacking as I do not see a capital letter starting your statement or any kind of punctuation ending your statement!

    And the proper way to have spelled your name should have been STFUn00bs!

  • drunkard

    NOT EVEN THE RIGHT FOR A PROPER TRIAL..

    US sucks, backwards capitalistic corperation country..

    Land of the free MY ASS

  • drunkard

    @38 Americans are used to seeing the world with only them in it

  • Ahmed1337x

    Damn thats not good at all…

  • diarRIAA

    Oooh if you loved Avatar, here is what the big shot multimillionaire thinks about fans that earn $15.00 an hour and spend their money making the media corporations rich.

    http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/24/james-cameron-in-major-a-hole-dispute/

    And yet people foolishly support the media corporations when truly fans that spend money on them don’t deserve to be treated like human beings.

    NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! xD

  • Kirkpad

    Holy crap James Cameron is an A-hole. It makes me ashamed to say he was born in the same country.

    “At this stage it’s unclear if isoHunt will appeal the US decision, but of course, in the meantime the site is fully operational in Canada, and will remain so for the foreseeable future.”

    So basically the ruling just allows them to block US citizens from accessing the site? Isn’t there like a billion ways around those securities?

  • Constantine

    As said in the stand by Stephen King.

    Dear Jesus,

    I hope you have enough vacancies left by the end of the month.

    Love,
    America

    PS: A million more sites will pop up, you stupid idiots. Just keep trying to shut us down. We’ll grow all the more because of it.

  • diarRIAA

    I didn’t want to go see the movie in the theatre because I hate giving money to millionaires that are super greedy and that call their fans criminals, especially when I actually have to work hard for my money and to get all of the nice things that I own. I refused to go and I was going to wait to download the Bluray HD 5.1 audio rip.

    My partner was begging me to go see this movie in the theatre together. I was gonna cave in and go see it. We read the TMZ article together so now fans he thinks fans are assholes now, and guess what…?

    We’re not going to see it. We’re gonna wait for the Bluray HD 5.1 audio rip on torrent now. He ain’t getting my hard money so he just lost two paying customers. I suspect he’ll lose alot more now.

  • me

    #36: “You can’t really host a torrent site in the US anymore.”

    Not only in the US, but in the whole western (ACTA-) hemisphere.

    And thinking of it, it’s no wonder: imaginary goods are the only things they manage to churn out these days that still sell. Real goods are all made in China.

  • Trelew

    Guess the courts didn’t even bother with a show trial and just rubber stamped it for the corporate masters.

    @10 Yes Canada is not the US but it might as well be. None of our politicians have the balls to say “boo” to Americans and their corporate friends. The Canadian governments get corrupted just as easily their American counterparts by Big Business. So Canada being a safe haven will probably be a short term thing until the corporate powers-that-be get the Canadian government to change their copyright laws to their liking.

  • Yo

    Sounds like a bullshit judgement to me.
    What is “promoting infringing uses of the websites”??
    I could argue that studios themselves are guilty of that!
    Another case of US judges legislating from the bench.

  • Anonymous

    They corrupted this judge too.

    No justice no peace.

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  • Rboy

    What are the consequences of this action? The article does not make it clear. I don’t think a California court can order a nationwide block of a site. Iso hunt has no physical presence in CA so any judgement has no teeth.

    the funny thing is google works almost as well as isohunt I find a large amount of my stuff by just googling it. All you have to do is put torrent or rapidshare after what you are looking for and you will find plenty of places to get your stuff.

    All stuff like this does is make things slightly less convenient for awhile. If isohunt went away several torrent search sites would pop-up to take its place.

  • OJ Simpson

    The only reason why they lost is because Judge Ito wasn’t there to make the final decision.

  • Reasoned Rectum

    The Court’s claim of “TOP 20 MOVIES SECTION R PROMOTING INFRINGING” is truly bullshit. We all know that Judges are corrupt and the lawsuit itself was nothing but a set-up by Movie studios. But even regarding that, I’d say such decision of the Court is magnificently preposterous, not only of its pure groundlessness, but because it now effectively opens a way for the Courts(and Movie studios) to apply the same judgment to any other .torrent indexing services. What is the line you can draw between ‘pure indexing, non-infringing service’ and ‘piracy promoting evil criminal activity’?
    (and you know, not a single copyright infringement is committed when a tracker responds to scraping call of a client for a .torrent file, besides indexing)

    If such feature really promoted piracy in any way, I suggest the society should reward isoHunt, instead of incriminating them, for providing equal and fair service to mentally challenged and retarded people(not to mention it is done for free of charge).

  • Reasoned Rectum

    Another interesting parts of the ruling are that the Court concluded PeerGuardian as a copyright-infringing tool and hosting a forum talking about filesharing is another form of promoting piracy, therefore illegal. If PeerGuardan was such horrible tool, what should we say about iptables? (oh, we are already well aware that Linux was a device of commies and hackers)

    On the forum part… this is nothing but a censorship, if not worse Orwellian dictatorship. I’m really sad to see those studios, have nothing but to disconnect mass from a few pieces of basic information that could be easily provided by Google in order to fight piracy.

    I think it’s time for people to doubt the sanity, or at least question the mentallity of Judges (and possibly every other individual in this ‘law industry’). Ruling ‘giving other users advice on how to rip copyrighted DVDs’ as ‘promoting copyright infringement’ is announcing to the world that they do not understand the concept of Fair Use. And if a law-industryman does not understand such concept, how could we expect him to be an expect in related subjects like the basic right as his law-school degree might suggest?

  • mr inthere

    As the plague of parasitic leeches continues to devour and desecrate the community, this will happen again and again.

    Nothing lasts forever.

    Real f/s.ers left bt a long time ago

  • Bobe-On

    …Meanwhile the industry continues to make money: Perfect for more lawsuits. More money for lawyers too. Ah, ain’t capitalism grand?
    More more more…

  • diarRIAA

    HAHAHAH! OMFG! Someone is spamming TMZ with links to the Avatar movie. Absolutely HILARIOUS!

    Alas…it’s a cam rip. ewww

  • Bryan

    14,I like your post because it adresses the reality of this situation and, I think your assessment of the people behind the doors these anti-piracy organizations couldn’t be closer to the truth. But honestly, if you want people to take you more seriously than half the 14 year old kids posting replies on this site, you need to stop typing like them. Proper grammer can get you a long way in this twisted society of ours. That’s jut some constructive criticism, and I wouldn’t of bothered to post this if I did’t think your post was a good one. I think if the rest of society could realize, that people who go to work everyday to victimize people based on the obsolete concept of intellectual property, are nothing but a drain on society’s progression, our futures would be a lot brighter.

  • Brandon

    Google is the best torrent indexer. Alot of other sites don’t have a good search engine. Google brings up alot more things that won’t show on the regular sights. Rock on Google! Worlds Largest Torrent Indexer…

  • DJ

    I’ve stopped using Isohunt once I got a warning letter from Baytsp last week from a torrent I downloaded from an NBC show. I guess Baytsp was keeping a very close watch on that site.

  • Cordelia

    ============================
    Quote 10:
    “Umm…the ruling was in the US and ONLY enforceable in the US. The DMCA means nothing in Canada, and the US can not shut down an organization in another country.”

    ============================
    OK, but remember Pirate Bay?
    When Sweden ignored the American requests to close it they threatened TRADE SANCTIONS (like with North Korea and similar countries).

    We need to sell our Volvo cars, Ericsson phones and Ikea furniture etc…. so politicians decided to comply.

    The US will just threaten Canada with trade sanctions or similar and they will have no choice but to comply. It’s a matter of time. We’re talking about the biggest bully-boy in the school-yard….

  • Steve

    Who am I?

    I am 27 years old. I am old to enough to remember a time without the internet but equally I am young enough that I now spend more time on the internet than any other pursuit. I am not a coder, designer or developer but I know at least one.

    Whenever I travel I take with me a portable hard disk, possibly 2 or 3, and it’s normal for me to trade hard disks with those that I meet to share media, music and files.

    I have owned more mobile phones than I can remember and subscribe to two or more photo sharing sites. I have created numerous online social profiles but really only use one of them daily. If I had to guess then I estimate that I have signed up for 4 or more email accounts in the last few years and possibly between 10 and 20 forums. My email inbox has recieved well over 50 ‘confirm by clicking this link’ emails.

    I have used instant messaging from the days of MSN thorugh to the many flavours that exist today. I use the internet to bank, organise, flirt, store and research. I use one of the big 3 internet browsers.

    I still rely mainly on Microsoft for everything but I know about Linux, BitTorrent and the rise of Google Open Source.

    But none of that is important. Let me tell you what is important.

    I will not be made to pay for the internet or it’s services by anyone. I will not pay extorbitant prices for software, media or the support they require.

    If you insist on trying to charge me then I will find alternatives sources (the internet is vast, your company is not) and if alternative sources are blocked then I will steal what I need. It may be unethical but so are gross profit margins. I will use new technologies that you have not considered.

    I will do this because I am the future. If you prevent my technology from accessing the data it needs then my friend will invent new tehcnology and if he can’t then a Korean, Russian, Brazilian or another citizen of this world will distribute the software that is required.

    The internet has spawned a generation that has come to expect fundamental truths and we consider these truths self evident.

    It shall be heard that open source is king, data is free and the laws of the market economy are to be rewritten. Despite my disregard for your manipulation of the law I am more then wiling to purchase content if

    A) The price is fair
    B) Your company acts ethically towards it’s consumers
    B) The application or service is of value

    If either of these conditions is not met then I will still use your program except you will never know it. If you want my business then make sure your product is accessible, portable and works across all of my platforms. I am run this relationship, not you. The sooner you comprehend that the sooner I will stop stealing your intellectual property. If you try to use the law against me then I will circumvent it. If that is not possible then a lawyer from my generation will represent me for free.

    If you don’t believe me then ask yourself this – who will be in charge when you are gone?

    The answer is me, the answer is Generation Web.

    Yes, I am a copyright pirate and I don’t care whose idea Windows 7 was.

    ———————————–

    Copy this link at paste into your FB, Myspace or Forums if you disagree with the new law which allows customs officials to search your IPOD for copyright music.

  • MM

    Good thing American laws don’t apply to other nations… I know American corporations think that they are the world and own every ones democracy but that just aint the case with other nations.

  • Steve

    Actually this law is about to hit worldwide. United States, the European Community, Switzerland and Japan.

    It is called the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement, or ACTA and you can find it here http://www.eff.org/issues/acta

  • Schlomo72

    I would like to point out that this article is mostly full of shit and that the writer enigmax needs to do more research before publishing it

    “All Day I Dream About W4rez…….“I pir4te, therefore I am”… did you pull that out of your ass?

    the rankings

    #1 I’m new be nice to me PLZ!

    #2 Partially Experienced Newbie ™

    #3 isoHunt Netizen

    #4 All Day I Dream About Downloads

    #5 P2P 4 Life

    #6 Where do I sell my TV?

    #7 iso Hunt Hunt

    #8 isoHunt Addict

    and mods have custom ranks…

    as well mods and admins do not post links to downloads… know your shit before you spew it… idiot

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  • Schlomo72

    oh yea… Merry Christmas too!!

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  • Arran

    Why is the rest of the world going United States of Assholes

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  • gonewalkabouts

    Merry Christmas

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  • dave

    i hope all americans feel deeply ashamed of their ridiculous government and its attitude displayed towards the rest of the world. Sort it out guys, its way beyond a joke
    club penguin

  • Anonymous

    Here is a recent photo from a club penguin party. ;)
    http://www.bored.com/photos/penguinconcert_2.html

    Merry Christmas TorrentFreakers! Or just Happy Holidays if you don’t celebrate Christmas.

  • MD3

    YOu can’t sue an indexer, for God’s sake!!! DAMN INCOMPETENT JUDGES! GO SUE GOOGLE TOO!

  • The Old Codger

    @60 Dec 25, 2009 at 04:21 by Cordelia

    Just remember that Canada has 1 big ace up their sleeve if the US propose sanctions they can reply: Well we will cut off the electricity supply to your country.

    Brownouts here we come.

  • Anon

    Diamonds Too as well as water, any other major resources do I need to add? Ohh Paper! mm

  • neb

    I think the reason is that isohunt has so many bad rips……..

    Don’t let the door hit you in the arse……..

  • thetazzzz

    Torrentfreak has posted some crap in the past but is a totality shit post enigmax…This might be a US Lawsuit but isohunt is hosted in Canada so not much US can do ..Also how did you get these rankings?

    (All Day I Dream About W4rez…….“I pir4te, therefore I am” )..

    Anyone that knows the isohunt forums knows the ranks work like this..
    #1 I’m new be nice to me PLZ!

    #2 Partially Experienced Newbie ™

    #3 isoHunt Netizen

    #4 All Day I Dream About Downloads

    #5 P2P 4 Life

    #6 Where do I sell my TV?

    #7 iso Hunt Hunt

    #8 isoHunt Addict

    So your post is crap !

  • bleep

    @57
    You talk about proper “grammer” to post 14? I “wouldn’t of” bothered, but I just could not help myself.

    Hi Kettle, meet Pot.

  • fauxhoax

    Wow! you mean they have movies and stuff on this new internet thingy?
    sure beats making copies of LP’s on cassette tapes….

  • djc

    I think the RIAA and the MPAA should dump this whole anti piracy thing because they will never stop it. This phenomena is a byproduct and direct consequence resulting from the morals and values they promote to society. Furthermore, I think we as the public should start holding these entities financially responsible for all the social damage their products cause in the form of murder, teen pregnancy, gangs , violence, sexual promiscuity, rape, drug use, etc. Many governments spend billions of dollars every year dealing with these issues. Society pays for the ills these entities promote so I think they should pay up or STFU!

  • djc

    79 Dec 26, 2009 at 05:29 by djc
    […]
    Your response is awaiting moderation.

    WTF?

  • Jay

    This is funny because a US court ruled the site guilty when it is hosted in Canada and the founder lives in Canada. It has no relations to the US thus the courts orders would do nothing :)

  • hehe

    I think public trackers are losing their way to survive.. so sorry..
    I hope isohunt would not be destroyed like mininova.

  • James Holdger

    Well, who cares, lol :) Isohunt is hosted in Canada, therefore the judge can shove his decision up where the sun never shines.

    It does not mean anything for Isohunt, they can and will simply ignore it, lol :)

    It’s just a waste of money for the MAFIAA and the taxpayers.

    Oh well.

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  • SuffocaZ

    Blame US! Hail to Canada !!!

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  • mdsmv

    that def sucks but really glad i have demonoid back

  • Drake3

    “I would like to point out that this article is mostly full of shit and that the writer enigmax needs to do more research before publishing it”

    Mostly? In what ways? What do you feel is not accurate and what do you feel is accurate?

    “Torrentfreak has posted some crap in the past but is a totality shit post enigmax…This might be a US Lawsuit but isohunt is hosted in Canada so not much US can do ..Also how did you get these rankings?”

    The article does list that the site is still operational in Canada, so it seems to cover that this has not meant much yet. The rankings is a valid question on their source for this article as it seems the rankings are not like this currently. They probably got it from someone who got information from the trial, but then that begs the question, where did the court get that information and when?

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  • nah in bmore

    You-dumbasses do realize that even though ISOhunt is in Canada. That this still has an affect on them?

    Why do you think Isohunt got involved in the first place, if they didnt think they could benefit from it.

    The second bigger picture is that Canada is right above America. We have economical trade agreements, and we each have certain spheres of influences. America of course wielding a greater sphere. So in the long run, this is bad. As we’ve already seen the might of American corporations and political power change the landscape of (unimportant ally us to them) Sweden law and policy.

    What do you think will happen with Canada. sheesh.

  • American Invalidity

    Though culpable expression promoting infringement is a valid concern AND NO LONGER APPARENT IN THE CURRENT SITE, I must question the other claims about statistical values and client-reflected concepts or themes.

    The same problem exists in the TPB issue, namely if their activities openly and directly support or promote — explicitly — “infringement” against the commerce institution, and if they are making significant profit over their operating costs (from the adverts, etc) in doing so.

    ISOHunt.com, as it is right now, appears perfectly fine, comments made by staff or the corporate entity previously should be addressed and everyone else learn from it, the site as it is now should continue to operate without further concerns.

  • American Invalidity

    [see the court documents]

    The fundamental pretense presented by the court on page 4 is invalid. In no way did Fung “ALLOW” anything except the text file to be downloaded.

    Facilitation with economic intent is entirely different than anything referenced here.

  • American Invalidity

    Same with page 12, highly encouraging has nothing to do with making available. FUNG’s statements are questionable, their directed intent is the point, but the Judge’s misunderstanding that these sites have anything to do with ACTUALLY PROVIDING ILLICIT CONTENT FOR CONTRA-ECONOMIC USE is horribly wrong.

    13: References to background common knowledge or technical sites has nothing to do with the unrelated use thereof. Explicit “put pirate propaganda movie torrent here so IIIIIII can download it from you, OR, so IIIII (company) can make profit from visitors’ advert requests specifically related to that commerce media data.” Does not exist in that claim.

    Page 15, inducement charge is based on interpretation, but the Judge intentionally avoided contribution, material, and intent to profit. Obviously, there is no question on the legitimacy of ISOHunt.com’s operation, especially where the content management is based on client initiated transactions, and as long as the company is not making stupid statements for profit, it is fine.

    Remember, this case is years old and based on interpretation of text statements purportedly made by FUNG which encourage profit or gains by soliciting, directly, restricted commerce sector material for counter-economic use.

    All indications are that the concerns are historic only (centric to a single individual) and there should be no impact to the infrastructure system referenced.

    Perhaps due to the gross exploitation of children and the common public by these media companies, we should declare all commerce-only entertainment media to be RESTRICTED AVAILABILITY like pornography? This would fix the problem [them] effectively.

  • LEE

    Judge Stephen V. Wilson is unacceptably wrong in considering the operation of an infrastructure machine to be related to the questionable personal activities of staff or owners of a company (and the related economic gains by said company). There is no concern that economic gains made using these references (advertising profits) could be questioned, however there is ABSOLUTELY NO BASIS for any technical claims against ISOHunt.com even in that time period. In NO WAY did their machine do anything with the restricted commerce-centric media content. A reference to IT or an activity related to it for commerce gains must be addressed in the commerce sector (this) and discouraged. In no way is the machine, systems, or infrastructure company (which should always be separate from the disposable fronts for this reason) responsible for the client activity about wholly unrelated commerce media content.

  • thetazzzz

    @ post 86 Drake3 …Torrentfreak could found out that isohunt have never had these ranking in its forums ….If isohunt are guilty of indexing copyright torrents so are Google ..Google has rapidshare and torrent links all over it ..

  • Anonymous

    I don’t understand why torrent sites choose to blatantly ignore take-down requests. Instead, wouldn’t a more compliant approach be beneficial to their site’s safety. Instead of being ignorant, they should instead make it difficult for them to request take-downs. For example, having to provide license documents for all the material used within the content, providing evidence that the content within the torrent is that which is copyrighted to them, asking what is the limits on distribution and sharing of the content. Basically making it as lengthy as possible.

    The site could mark content as under-review. Not restricting access but allowing users to be aware that the torrent may go down and to grab it quick.

    I don’t know, sometimes I feel if I had the technical know-how I’d run a torrent site a bit better than some of these others.

  • Anonymous
  • Anonymous

    Torrent sites don’t store copyrighted works or promote anything any other search engine promotes. .torrent files are not copyright of those major corporations, it might even be copyright of the individuals who made them. The actual content transfer occurs on a personal level, and the sites cannot be held responsible with crime of thought.

    This only shows there is no justice in these cases, only the rich elite benefits and the poor masses get extorted into oblivion. US is not a democracy, its corporate rule.

    The response, of course, will be Anonymous p2p. They will lose any chance of suing unless they start going to each and every home and physically collect “evidence”. Even then it will remain limited to the accused and won’t affect innocent third parties anymore.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_P2P

    Of course they will try to outlaw “rogue” software next, and attempt control of our machines. Then the fight for Free (Open Source) Software rights begins.

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  • Scooby

    This judge is a retard if he thinks torrent sites and Napster are similar enough to copy-and-paste judgments from one to the other. I smell appeal.

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  • dev from india

    U.S. is a bull shit

    isohunt is welcome to India i will do what ever i can do for you……..

  • dev from india

    my no is 09389067569 call me for any help

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  • sourabh

    I believe if USA blocking isohunt i’m sure may be India also block isohunt

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