Italy to Follow French 3 Strikes Model for P2P
Written by enigmax on January 21, 2009After high-level discussions on the piracy situation in 2008, the Italian government has announced the signing of an agreement which will see it collaborate with the French on the issue. Of concern to those sharing files online, Minister of Culture Sandro Bondi says Italy will follow the “French model”.
In 2003, Silvio Berlusconi’s government passed some of the most aggressive copyright laws in Europe, but ultimately the authorities didn’t give them the support demanded by the entertainment industries. Then in January 2007, Rome’s top criminal court announced that downloading films, music or software from the Internet should not be considered a crime if done for no profit, backing the likes of the IFPI and MPAA into a corner with fewer options.
Today, in 2009, the situation is moving quickly. In common with situations in many countries around the world, the entertainment industries have all but given up chasing down individual file-sharers, declaring that their new focus will be on ISPs, who they will pressure to clamp down on pirates on their behalf.
In October 2008 a technical roundtable got underway in Italy which promoted collaboration between the music, movie and ISPs. In basic terms, in part it was a discussion about the mechanics of implementing a ‘3 strikes’ or ‘graduated response’ to deal with piracy on P2P networks.
France has one of the toughest approaches to the ‘problem’ in Europe, so it will be of concern to many Italian citizens that their country appears to be taking the lead from Sarkozy’s vision of copyright enforcement.
According to a THR report, yesterday Italy’s Ministry of Culture signed an agreement with French officials to cooperate on anti-piracy issues. Furthermore, in an indication of how Italy sees its legislation progressing in the future, Minister of Culture Sandro Bondi said that Italian laws will “follow the French model” in providing strict protection and controls for copyright works.
As we previously reported, plans for a “3 strikes” regime had already been touted in Italy by the movie industry during meetings in Venice, with the MPAA’s President Robert Pisano stating: “Maybe the first couple of times they get a warning e-mail, then perhaps the speed on their account is reduced, and if they keep doing it then maybe their account is closed.”
With this announcement that Italy will follow the ‘French model’ and Sandro Bondi previously going on record saying that the fight against piracy is a priority for the government, it looks like the entertainment industries are getting closer to their aims, not just in Italy but in countries around Europe, and others across the world.
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When two of the most famous countries in Europe which for centuries are praised for their achievements in arts and science decide to take a step back into the last century how long do you think will your puny government (from wherever you are) take to consider this too? Don’t be so retarded and stereotypical at the same time when you don’t even know what you’re talking about.
This only goes to show that the old money is more powerful than the new ideas. We need to break them all one by one and then see who’s left. Old broke systems or new free ideas.
Only if people choose to let it be so. It is a democratic state after all, or, even if it is not, opposition is still possible.
Let us water the tree of liberty with the blood of patriots!
Serves 'em right, those sneaky Italians!
LOL! Italians and French. NUUFF SAID!!!!
ah shit
So far it seems this year does not bode well for torrent-sharers.
o well then i guess you'll have to disconnect us then, one less paying customer for you…
Robert Pisano ought to be shot, as well as all other top members of the MPAA and any other major supporter of this 3 strikes model. We need their blood to be spilled, so let their blood water our streets and fields!
Somebody ought to bring death to Robert Pisano and Sandro Bondi before it is too late.
You mean the MPAA, Sarkozy, and the Italian "Ministry of Culture," rather than the Italian people.
The data collection methods used to "identify" illegal filesharing are such a fucking joke that they wind up sending DMC takedown notices to printers and trying to sue 50-year-olds who've never even played a computer game for sharing Collin McRae DiRT. They literally can't tell who the fuck is and isn't filesharing copyrighted material, so the whole "three strikes" model is doomed to start with. You can only falsely accuse so many people/inanimate objects before it all comes crumbling down.
So far it seems this year doesn't bode well for fileshares? Heh. Sure, if you don't know any better. Otherwise, it's just more of the same. The MAFIAA continues to dig its own grave while filesharing somehow continues to grow even more unstoppable despite being completely unstoppable already. Business as usual.
"Business as usual"
Which means that the MAFIAA continues to pull off their shit and still get away with it. Why should they be able to get away with it, huh? For all the things that they have done, they should not be forgiven, they should not be forgotten: we must have REVENGE, and NOW is the time for our revenge.
"Minister of Culture Sandro Bondi says Italy will follow the “French model”."
What do oppressive, privacy invading, copyright cartel placating laws have to do with "culture" pray tell?
To the MPAA, it certainly does.
History can be a bitch… look, its happening again, as long as its someone else people are again turning their faces, its not us so why bother right?
Lets not be silly, did anyone see the US elections recently… how each state changed color from Red or Blue? this is kind of like that… these "States" are changing color from freedom to MAFIAA oppression, and if you keep on saying "its just those (insert country name here)" its finally gonna hit your country and you know what others will say… "oh forget it, its just X country".
We are losing ground here people… and it seems this time technology is not catching up fast enough to give us an edge again, we need some proper encrypted and anonymous ways adopted by everyone in the p2p chain (clients and servers) that render the snoopers efforts useless
###OR###
Some way to make the govts listen to us rather than the MAFIAA goons.
Right now, point one seems more likely, it just needs to get here faster.
Cheers!
R
http://www.eZee.se
omg what a news *yawn* everyone knows the french gov has been lobbying to push this around europe (and beyond) since the beginning; if any country is trying to adopt an antiP2P system blame it on the french gov. it all started here…
>Let us water the tree of liberty with the blood of patriots
>blood of patriots
>patriots
Patriotism is one of the major evils of this world and any sort of 'patriotism' should be stamped out, as only war, hatred and suppression come from such things. Respect the people within your country and not the country itself, for they are more important. For king and country and The old Lie; Dulce et Decorum est pro patria mori.
You're confusing patriotism with chauvinism.
Why is every single thing you post given a thumbs up? It's irritating. Apparently all you need to do to be guaranteed a thumbs up on TF is… use a female name! I mostly agree with your posts, but you have to admit that what I'm saying isn't off-base. Plenty of excellent comments are standing around with no thumbs ups, while two sentences you throw off will get six! (This post, since it's accurate, should get thumbs ups of its own, but somehow I doubt that will be the ultimate outcome. C'mon TF, use your brain!)
Not quite accurate, though, since not every comment of mine goes up high. I guess some people only "thumbs down" or "thumbs up" a comment only after finishing reading one, since I have not seen many long comments go up or down that much.
Not quite accurate, though, since not every comment of mine goes up high. I guess most people only "thumbs down" or "thumbs up" a comment only after finishing reading one, since I have not seen many long comments go up or down that much.
i am italian berluscon masson. fascist. i emigration. is good.
This is destined to fail. Even if I got kicked off the internet I'd stick a humongus great big omnidirectional antenna and use someone else's internet. I can crack wep in like 5 minutes, MPAA do your worst
forge mac address, crack wep, fuxx ur neighbours!
this way they will get the letters, and they will have opinions on the fuckin matter then….
PS. Roze, get yur tits out!
WRONG. Blame the MAFIAA. It started in the UNITED STATES, not France.
If you have an intense debate account (name is in pink) you get a +1 for just posting… from yourself, apparently.
Uh, no. Business as usual means the MAFIAA tries and fails to pull off their shit and get away with it. Hence, "continues to dig its own grave". This 3-strikes model is basically their last gasp, because once it fails(and it will – it literally can't succeed), they're out of options.
And once they run out of options… Hoo boy. Let's just say in the ensuing series of events, revenge shall be delivered upon them a thousand fold. :D
So Berlisconi is after protecting his media empire
Man, its gettin crazy out there aint it? WTF dude!
RT
http://www.privacy-web.us.tc
Revenge just can't come soon enough.
Or you could just stop stealing from artists. Seriously–your sense of self-entitlement is ridiculous. If you were a carpenter I couldn't just go to your workshop and take any furniture I liked and not pay you for it, could I? This is no different. My music is my livelihood. It is my job. It is how I pay my bills. This is no joke. What you are doing is really hurting other people who are struggling to make a living, just as I'm sure you are. The only difference is that unfortunately what I make can be digitized, where a piece or furniture or a pair of shoes cannot, so it's easier for you to steal from me than it would be for me to go into a store and steal food or clothes. However, just because what I make can be digitized doesn't mean it's right for you not to pay for it. It's still how I support myself. Instead of finding all kinds of ways to get around attempts to protect artists copyrights, why not just do the moral thing and pay for the art you want to consume?
I am with you, FASTWEB suck on that!
There no place you can go outside Italy if you speak such a terrible English :-)
I'm italian. One of the Italian Ministers, Maroni (I personally don't like it), appears in TV and encourages people to use p2p, and even to download copyrighted material such as records and movies. In an interview he said that he punishes his kids if they dare to buy records instead or before downloading them!
Believe me if I tell you that outside Italy you get the feeling that things change, and newspapers are quick to blast us with such articles. But in the end, nothing ever changes.
@SingingForMySupper:
NOTHING gives you the RIGHT to MAKE A LIVING ON MUSIC.
Do you hear me? _NOTHING_!
Just like NOTHING gives me the right to make a living on whatever it is I choose. So, if I’m a journalist and write articles that no one is interested in reading, should I still be able to demand a job on a newspaper!? I THINK NOT.
Oh well when the cable company blocks me i will get fios and then i will begin watching all the thiusands of italian movies i have downloaded. I am in the US and have the biggest collection of italian movies and italian dubbed movies. I say berlusconi vaffanculo
This time I will post in italian. bene, sono un profrssore d'italiano negli usa e nel mio tempo libero faccio il PIRATA. Ho un sacco di film piratati e l'unica cosa che mi rallenta e` che il mio HD si riempe tropo presto e devo continuare a masterizzare e a comprare nuovi HD da 500G dinuovo Berlusconi Vaffanculo. Italia va a cagare e viva Che.
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