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Lawyer Claims TorrentFreak Abused Canadian Democracy

Last summer, TorrentFreak encouraged its Canadian readers to have their voice heard in the country’s public consultations on copyright reform. The response to this call for action was overwhelming, and as a result a pro-copyright lawyer is now claiming that we “systematically abused” Canadian democracy.

canadaDemocracy is a great good, so when the Canadian government encouraged the public to have their say on copyright reform we decided to pass the message on to our readers. In doing so, we emphasized why we think that the Internet should not be controlled by copyright lobbyists.

We’re not pro copyright infringement, but what we want to prevent is a situation where the interests of the major entertainment industry companies are placed above the individual rights of Internet users. Like most other countries, Canada already has sufficient copyright laws.

The small businesses and individuals who make their living from copyright have plenty of tools to protect their livelihoods. They will not benefit from privacy-invading measures that will turn the Internet into a police state and one that will only benefit the interests of billion dollar companies whose business model is to exploit copyright.

We’re fully aware that not everyone is in agreement with our views on copyright legislation, but that doesn’t mean that we don’t have the right to encourage the people who do agree to have their voices heard. Isn’t that what defines a democracy? According to IP-lawyer Richard Owens, it isn’t.

“The Consultation was systematically abused by a clandestine group of mod-chip manufacturers, foreign websites administrators and international BitTorrent users, principally through the CCER and ‘TorrentFreak’,” he writes in a lengthy piece. The ‘mod-chip group’ he is referring to is actually the Canadian Coalition for Electronic Rights, which has nothing to do with mod-chips at all.

Apparently Owens is pretty biased himself by making such allegations. This is not really a surprise since he’s employed by copyright holders and has strong ties to pro-copyright lobby groups. But let’s see what else he has to say.

“For the TorrentFreak and ‘modder’ crowds, piracy havens like Canada have great utility,” writes Owen. “Should the opinions of those who want to exploit Canada for disreputable and illicit trans-border commerce really influence Canada’s copyright policy?”

Again, the lawyer is highly opinionated with his negative characterization of TorrentFreak and the CCER. It was never our intention to “exploit Canada” in any shape or form, we just wanted to encourage our readers to exercise their democratic rights. Is that a crime?

“We must not let our public consultations be abused by shadowy organizations working with foreign purveyors of pirated material. The incentives of non-Canadians to direct Canadian public policy against the interests of Canadians are too strong to ignore,” notes Owen as he continues his rant.

This last comment is interesting. Apparently the pro-copyright lawyer seems to believe that we, as foreigners, intentionally tried to abuse the consultation to conspire against the interests of Canadians. He thereby ignores Canadians are the second largest nation currently reading TorrentFreak and that one of our articles was written by Canadian native Prof. Michael Geist, who holds the Canada Research Chair in Internet and E-commerce Law at the University of Ottawa.

Aside from labeling TorrentFreak as working with “purveyors of pirated material” and discrediting the CCER, Owens’ rant argues that our involvement may have encouraged non-Canadians to participate, and that the demographics of the respondents are not representative of the Canadian population. This critique is valid to some degree, but is procedural and should be independent of the content of the submissions.

In his comments on the demographics, Owens argues that TorrentFreak readers are mostly teenagers, which is another error. The percentage of teenagers among our readers is actually below the Internet average, while the percentage of readers between 35 and 49 are overrepresented (according to Quantcast). Aside from this mistake, Owens seems to forget that even in democratic election the turnout is never an exact representation of the public.

By saying that our article on the consultations was an attempt to “preserve digital anarchy and continued flow of free stuff”, Owens pretty much exposes his own agenda. He wouldn’t have criticized the outcome of the consultation if it was in line with his personal views.

It wouldn’t surprise us if he was instructed to write this rant by one of his befriended copyright lobbies. These copyright exploiting outfits clearly don’t want everyone to have their voice heard.

Update: The CCER and Michael Geist have responded as well.

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  • Anonymous

    First

  • DXdiag

    so close to first… :(

  • Souler

    That’s just like…his opinion man.
    And I’m not really surprised. And he’s the one that is trying to abuse the democracy.

  • in.cog.nito

    People that post first, need to get banned.

    Who do i have to write to, to have this moron removed from office?

  • None

    What a goof…

  • Darth_Tater

    What do have when a lawyer is buried up to his neck in wet cement?

    Not enough cement.

    arghh! more cement please

  • Anonymous

    good one darth :), i cant believe the audacity of claiming people speaking out is against democracy

  • theDog

    99 percent of lawyers give the rest a bad name.

  • Zush

    Lawyers are evil. Even if they are from Canada, one of my faves.

  • Grimreapor

    This made me laugh like hell. The guy is a moron. A dangerous moron though.

  • GrX

    and here goes :)

    if this site was hosted in the UK and it was the UK industry lawyer spouting all this stuff.

    under the DEB bill this site could and very would be blocked from users of this country. very scary isn’t it.

    that this is now law.

    As for this Muppet does he know rain is also wet?

  • Sendaii

    Abusing democracy? What, like they do on a daily basis?

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  • Ninja

    “We must not let our public consultations be abused by shadowy organizations working with foreign purveyors of pirated material. The incentives of non-Canadians to direct Canadian public policy against the interests of Canadians are too strong to ignore,” – Shadowy was bad enough but who is he to have the omniscience over what the Canadians need and want? Just because the people’s opinion is different from his own it doesn’t mean the consultation was harmed in anyway by any article.

    The sane readers here, the majority for sure, aren’t supporters of anarchy. In fact it’s quite the contrary since there’s a good percentage that actually buys what is worth just like many of other bt/p2p users. If he reads carefully he’ll see that we only want sane prices and good availability (ie: no region locks, no stupid DRM etc).

    In any case, it’s interesting to see how ignorant he is in his statements, which surely mirrors the ignorance of his employers (MAFIAA and merry friends). Hopefully the misinformation MAFIAA tries to spread will not infect the democratic channels and the Canadian case seems to be safe from it for now.

    Going to read the other responses now, they ought to be interesting too.

  • Afficianado

    Not surprised, but if he didn’t come up with this crap, he’d be failing at his job. Really it’s up to someone of equal standing from the opposite camp to ridicule and demolish him and show him up for the arse he is.

  • Anonymous

    Currently employed by Stikeman Elliott LLP, and lecturing at University of Toronto.

    http://www.law.utoronto.ca/faculty_content.asp?AdjID=41&cType=Adjunct&itemPath=1/3/3/0/0&contentId=353

    http://www.stikeman.com/

    Contact information, should you care to refute his claims:
    (416) 869-6878
    rowens@stikeman.com

  • mmmunf

    And no, I’m not a teenager at all. In fact I’m really 12 1/2.

  • afrowolf

    “We must not let our public consultations be abused by shadowy organizations working with foreign purveyors of pirated material. The incentives of non-Canadians to direct Canadian public policy against the interests of Canadians are too strong to ignore,”

    I am guessing that Richard Owens is less than outraged by billion-dollar multinational corporations doing exactly this via advertising, trade acts, lobbyists and stooges such as himself, etc.

    “Should the opinions of those who want to exploit Canada for disreputable and illicit trans-border commerce really influence Canada’s copyright policy?”

    I wonder if Mr. Owen is equally outraged by the way corporations farm governments and people like animals in pens via shadowy organizations like the WTO, or the defeated Multilateral Agreement on Investment. Something tells me he isn’t.

    We aren’t the ones hiding our agenda.

    Shadowy Canadian reader, 38

  • Ninja

    Damn, those responses were a punch in the face lol. Awesome. Keep up the good work all of you!

  • Freedom

    Lawyers make for Trench Warfare a la 1914-1918. Lots of casualties on both sides. They will escape unharmed.

  • anonymous

    @#11. i agree. if this site was in UK, we wouldn’t be able to read it. i believe that in the not too distant future, no site from any country is going to be allowed to have posts that are against the opinions of the entertainment industry. certainly in the UK, they will be expecting the ‘law’ to shut down any site they dont like or want! freedom of speech has gone along with freedom of opinion, freedom of ideas and freedom of expression. all because some wanker wants us to carry on buying outdated cds, in preference to having the much better quality of digital media that they could supply themselves, anyway. weird!!

  • Ninja 2

    And they will prolong any ongoing war. And think up new ones. Conflict = work = money.

  • 133t

    great TF if you are now hitting them where it hurts , keep it up !!!

    @Richard Owens show tits or gtfo :p

  • duane

    Calling for significant reform on copyright law is anyone’s prerogative, as is encouraging others to support that belief. Isn’t that the very basis of freedom of expression?

    That said, I’m not surprised that someone who subscribes to what appear to be authoritarian, fascist beliefs would classify libertarians as anarchists. He seems to think that if he isn’t in charge, then nobody can be.

  • duane

    Oh and btw, I’m 26.

  • Devanite

    We must not let our public consultations be abused by shadowy organizations working with foreign purveyors of pirated material. The incentives of non-Canadians to direct Canadian public policy against the interests of Canadians are too strong to ignore,” notes Owen as he continues his rant

    So if I as a citizen and military member of this country were to have said it instead would that shut him up?

    Also as said nationality and proffession I must say that I like the fact that my country garners international atttention on a positive scale (promoting democracy and not being such a huge insult to it by allowing companies to write our laws) and that any civilized person regardless of nationality can have sympathy for another nation, just like I have sympathy for the UK at the moment!

  • Osno

    I like how he at the same time states that francophones and women are underrepresented, and asks only for the “professional” voice. Here’s a stat for you: 99.9999% of canadians are not content creators. And they deserve to be listened to anyway.

  • us

    democracy means that everyone votes in a situation where most people are unaware that the vote exhists; according to the US and Canada, “it is best to only cast ballots to the winning party”

  • neostyles

    So what tools was TF referring to? Unless you are able to look into people’s internet history, you have no chance or determining if they were involved in infringement. How are you supposed to tell who is doing what otherwise? The fact of the matter is that piracy is a catastrophe and something serious needs to be done in order to stop it. Telling people to stop pirating isn’t going to work.

  • if enough high paid liars

    like that sack of shit can succeed in telling lies to gullible government hacks and civil servants … we could be in trouble. Then again, thank God for honest lawyers who succeed in spreading the truth and educating judges and politicians alike, not to mention civil servants.

    We will prevail !
    … currently seeding 59GB of doctor who – the fourth doctor!

  • @27

    sadly, in British Columbia, Canada; there is a working group on electoral reform … on the agenda is “giving corporations the right to vote” in municipal and provicial elections.

    this is the new “backdoor” to buying a politician

    just sayin is all !!!

  • Anonymous

    A pro-copyright lawyer accuses US of abusing the system? A PRO-COPYRIGHT LAWYER ACCUSES US OF ABUSING THE SYSTEM?
    This guy is fucking insane.

  • fr3ak

    How do you know how old we are?

  • duane

    neostyles, I have a solution for you. Let’s change the law to reflect public opinion instead of trying to force them to do what YOU think is right. For instance, let’s reform copyright to be reasonable instead of trying to shove draconian laws down people’s throats.

    Yes, bought laws are the catastrophe — filesharing, not so much. See, one adversely affects millions of people, the other MAY affect a few thousand…

    Perhaps it happens that you are one of the few people who MAY be affected, and from what we’ve seen of you here, we wish you all the worst.

  • duane

    @29

    “currently seeding 59GB of doctor who — the fourth doctor!”

    All content produced by the BBC has already been paid for by the UK taxpayer. So, speaking to you from the UK, I give you permission to share Dr Who as much as you like! ;)

  • gorehound

    Corporate Assholes With A Dirty Brown Nose !!!!

  • Anonymous

    Oh Yea! We are denying human rights to the mega corporation of entertainment parasites because parasites are not human.

    Corporations are not human either. So?

  • lol

    Dear Complete Idiot Retard Richard Owens

    You have just committed political suicide, please take this a step further and commit physical suicide so that we may all breath a little easier knowing a moron of your caliber no longer exists in this world.

    Thank You

  • Unauthorized Content Consumer

    An open comment to Mr. “lawyer”:

    I’m Canadian, shut your corn hole and lick me where I p**p.

    Thank you for your time and attention.

  • Anonymous

    To identify congressmen that were likely bought by either entertainment cartels or by lawyers in general, visit the website called “Is my congressman bought?”

  • bleh

    He doesn’t want Canadian influenced by foreigner but he is influenced by American corporation? Then go ahead and ban US TV in Canada too? It’s influencing everyone you know.

  • anon

    pro copyright or pro slavery? we will not be controlled by corrupt bs that flows from ur mouths

  • your son

    TF “we arent pro-copyright”
    as there is 4 major advertisements for usenet on the right side of theis page.

  • Anonymous

    So It’s illegal to discuss laws and question them now? Better throw everyone in jail.

    I don’t support anarchy, in fact, I’m far from it, I think it’s a horrible system doomed to fail because humans simply do not get along well, it’d cause widespread chaos, impede any artists, stop education I could go on, this is my opinion though, I do not intend to offend any anarchists, I want a copyright system that respects the consumer more than the “rights” holders, in fact, if I have a system of government I am working on writing up that leans more torwards socialism, the people are free to do anything within certain bounds, but not corperations.

  • whateffff

    he’s not clear in his head.

  • grins & giggles

    @39
    TF “we arent pro-copyright”
    as there is 4 major advertisements for usenet on the right side of theis page.

    oh that’s what occupies that space, I never noticed cuz adblock plus filters it for me …

  • ralphie

    Use Karl Rove’s playbook – NEVER defend, ONLY attack

  • BIOS

    I think it is great that torrent freak has that kind of influence. I have always loved read these articles because they are very informative and usually fun to read.

  • kiwishare

    I’m a 40 year old BT user and proud of it,sticking it to the man and his REGIME is our obligation!!!

    FTP!!

  • zaphod

    I love reading about lawyers who show their obvious lack of knowledge in full public view.

    I am a shadowy 43yo IT Manager.

  • tman01

    “He wouldn’t have criticized the outcome of the consultation if it was in line with his personal views.” Personal views my ass, he is a liar, I mean lawyer, more like whatever view pays the more.

  • Unauthorized Content Consumer

    Oops. Oh and…I’m a 40 year old Canadian singer and actor.

    Do I care about copyright? No. I’m not motivated by greed. I am motivated to entertain and to enjoy doing what I do.

  • Drake

    As a Canadian I am surprised to learn that TorrentFreak is a shadowy organization. I always thought that copyright laws were ridiculous but maybe I’ve been influenced by the dark shadow cast by TorrentFreak and that mod chip/coalition for electronic rights group.

    As Vinnie Barbarino used to say, “I’m so confused.”

    ;)

  • Anonymous

    “The percentage of teenagers among our readers is actually below the Internet average”

    I’ve only read your comments section a few times and this is hard to believe.

  • Anon

    As yet another Canadian, I feel it necessary to apologize for our greedy lobbies. Nickelback is also our bad.

  • United Hackers Association

    6500 letters short time to do all this meetings in conservative areas
    then when they get results that say 99% want to reduce the copyright term they claim its bad

    SCREW GOVT

  • Canadian lobby S.O.L.

    The smut we must stop
    The trash we must bash
    The Laughter and fun
    Must all be undone
    We must blame them and cause a fuss
    Before somebody thinks of blaming uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuus!!!!

  • Harry Muff

    Yeah.. fcuk you and your undemocratic pulpit. Cry out to dicks that want to rebel against the ‘man’, and engage in childish hate speech!

    Rarely do we see any legitimate arguments for open distribution, and a fair and balanced method that insures that the people we want to see ‘make it Hollywood’ do so

    it’s all about Fcuk the AB-C-Deese nowadays

    Torrentfreak does, make it more complicated to reach a middle ground,, like it or not

  • IAmCanadian

    I’d expect that our gov’t kind of expected some un-lawyered people to submit their opinions with everyone else’s, i believe that was the intent of ‘public consultation’.

    If anyone else cares to further discus their personal views with him, his contact info can be found here:
    http://www.stikeman.com/cps/rde/xchg/se-en/hs.xsl/Profile.htm?ProfileID=65143

  • mmmm

    how is the people speaking up abusing democracy?? That IS democracy!!

  • townie2

    it’s called freedom of speech in a democracy. and your worried about foreign interference in Canadian Copyright hearings? what about the multi billion dollar American movie and music companies interfering, that’s all right? Canadian politicians, remember, big foreign corporations don’t vote, citizens do, so who do you serve and represent?
    thanks to TF for keeping us Canucks informed, and standing up for freedom of speech. sign the petition everyone.

  • Quartz

    When a lawyer opens his mouth offer him some toilet roll.

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  • m0e

    Big surprise, a copyright whore is pissed on the use of free speech and support of privacy rights…

  • LOL

    this guy is definitely a moron and super retarded.

  • Benjamin Franklin

    Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch.

  • Taylor

    This guy makes me ashamed to be a Canadian. Come next election I’m voting for the Pirate party. Not the morons who are in bed with his employers.

  • Trelew

    As a Canadian, I would personally like to tell Mr. Owen is frakkin’ hypocrite. Wagging his finger and making over-the-top statements about abusing democracy while Big Business corrupts courts and governments around the world, everyday.

    In fact, in one of Canada’s public consultations in Toronto; most of the tickets were snapped up by corporate interests so that their voice was the only one that was heard. In closed door sessions, corporate interests made sure that there was no opposing opinion allowed in the room.

    Yes TF is biased for net neutrality in its articles, and its well within its mandate to encourage Canadians to speak out on copyright reforms. This is not an abuse but an encouragement of using your rights and freedoms

  • The Other Richard Owens

    Anyone who’s against me is abusing democracy, now I want a billion bucks and 10 beautiful women.

  • Aussie

    This seems to be a classic RIAA case of “everyone is equal, some are more equal than others”…

    One set of rules for pro-copyright, another set for those they oppose. If you think there is any reason they are wrong, you are clearly misinformed and not allowed to voice your opinion.

    Great democratic stance there.

    Now, foreign purveyors… Dangerous stance there considering the various arms of Sony Canada (for example) are child companies of foreign entities. Even says so on their webpage.

    “SONY BMG MUSIC (CANADA) INC. carries on the Canadian operations of SONY BMG MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT” and “SONY BMG MUSIC ENTERTAINMENT is 50 % owned by Bertelsmann A.G. and 50% owned by Sony Corporation of America”… So half German, half US.

  • cheeseeater

    I can’t believe this guy, but why would I expect anything different from puppets like this? When I first discovered Napster (very early in its’ inception) I owned six CDs. Six. That’s it. When Napster was closed down I owned over 50 CDs. Why? Why would I start purchasing physical CDs when I could get all I wanted for free? The answer is simple, I discovered new music. Lots of it. I even purchased CDs of music I already owned on cassette or LP. But once I was called a thief, I stopped purchasing music (and movies) and swore that I would never again give them my money, I would forever download for free. I will support an artist directly via ticket sales, T-shirt sales, CD sales, but only when I see them in person at a venue of some sort. Since the demise of Napster I HAVE purchased some CDs and DVDs but only as gifts for others. I want them to have the ‘real thing’, but downloads and burned music and movies is good enough for me. I have a decent job and make good money, grossed about a million dollars in the past decade. Can you imagine how much I haven’t spent in the past 10 years or so? My movie collection is over 500 and my music collection is, well, lets just say there isn’t a single hard drive big enough for it; yes more than 2TB. Their loss, not mine. I’ve enjoyed all the music and movies I can personally handle and barely a nickel has been made by anyone. I bet Staples has made the most, with my blank CD and DVD purchases! So to Richard Owens, F**K YOU! Get real!

  • BoSNiaN

    hahah, what a retard!

    ps: GO CANADA GO

  • Anon

    @4
    >Who do i have to write to, to have this moron removed from office?

    Anyone who’ll sell you a gun and appropriate ammo.

  • Wayne

    For those interested in the issue, please read:

    A Call For Disclosure – Who Do The Professionals Represent And Why Are They Hiding The Connection?
    http://madhatter.ca/2010/04/20/a-call-for-disclosure-who-do-the-professionals-represent-and-why-are-they-hiding-the-connection

  • A chicken passeth by

    I have only one word for the pro-copyright crowd:

    Losers play dirty. >_>

  • Feckless Folderol

    I find this man to be morally offensive and rather off putting. I would not invite him to a social even if he were to beg on his knee.

    What a surprise, the first thing that appears when I search Richard Owens into Google’s fantastic image search, is a pro copyright site, for a Los Angeles group who hosts frequent meetings. The Los Angeles Copyright Society? BWAHHAHAHAHA.

    Quick internet! do what it is that you do best!

    http://copr.org/

  • 9ninety9

    tsk tsk tsk TorrentFreak, you brainwashed those nice law abiding canucks :)

  • prev

    Ali G on Censorship http://uploading.com/files/2eca32e6/censorship.rm

    He doesn’t like it either

  • ConcernedCitizen

    Owens is the antithesis of a competent attorney, spouting misinformation and unsupportable conclusions in an effort to secure a verdict in support of his client’s cause. How shoddy! Equating free speech to exploiting Canada? Really now! Aren’t his clients exploiting the laws of copyright with the sole objective of lining their own pockets to excess? I am impressed with your response, Ernesto. What is needed is a level, fair and measured response to Owens’ fanatical rant and that’s what you wrote here.

  • old timer

    Entertainment industry is the Cake…the Cake is not real….

    It will come full circle

  • old timer

    DIGITAL CONTENT AND THE ARTISTS INTERESTS (LAW450H1S)
    Aaron Sawchuk, Richard Owens
    Second Term: 3 credits; 2 hours
    Schedule: (W: 6:10 – 8:00)

    Note: Important Notice:The Blackboard program will be used for this course. Students must self-enrol in Blackboard as soon as confirmed in the course in order to obtain course information.
    Max. Enrol: 25
    23 JD
    2 LLM/SJD/MSL/NDEGS/SJD U

    This course will examine the important and topical legal and policy issues facing the producers of digital (or digitised) works. Our aim is to provide students with practical knowledge of the key legal concerns of the music, book, movie, software, database and other content industries in the 21st century. The course will move beyond the black letter law to allow students to critically examine the socio-economic policy debates involving intellectual property rights in the digital economy. Course topics will/may include: Canada’s implementation of the WIPO Internet treaties; patent dedication and corporate strategy; the legislative, policy and technical responses to peer to peer file sharing on the Internet; the effects of digital rights management technologies on the dissemination of creative content and users rights therein; open source software and other forms of massively distributed peer production (to use Benkler’s phrase); net neutrality; and, the movement away from market-based compensation to collective licensing levies. The course will focus on the Canadian context, but will also draw heavily on international developments, particularly in the US and EU.

    Evaluation: final paper of 20-25 pages.

  • old timer

    open source software and other forms of massively distributed peer production (to use Benkler’s phrase); net neutrality; and, the movement away from market-based compensation to collective licensing levies

    What does this have to do with copyright infrigment….he is teaching a cult course about pro-dollars for corp greed….

    Man, soon everything will be open source and only idiots like lawyers will be paying for stuff they can get free….thinking they get something more by paying…look at all the open source document software, education material…and why the heck is he using Blackboard when Moodle is open source among one of the 1000 other LMS’s out there that do almost the same thing….I guess it is just supporting what he is teaching…too bad…I feel bad for Vinal Record producers….err what every he is now.

  • old timer

    Richard is a member of the American Bar Association, the International Bar Association, the Advisory Council of the Identity, Privacy and Security Initiative at the University of Toronto, the Canadian Chamber of Commerce Intellectual Property Committee, the Canadian Intellectual Property Council, and ATRIP (International Association for the Advancement of Teaching and Research in Intellectual Property). He has served on several boards of directors and is the president of the Off Centre Music Salon

  • Freeleech

    Funny. This clown, Owens, must be on LSD.

  • Rob

    Owens’ concept of “democracy” is a system of government that should only cater to his interests and the interests of his corporate clients. The guy needs to take a civics course. Organizing the people to voice their opposition against the tyranny of greedy fascist thugs is exactly how a democracy should function.

    We’ve seen other countries (Europe) pass some awful pieces of anti-piracy legislation that were never supported by the majority of its citizens(with some enacted in blatant disregard to the whole legislative process). All Canadians should stand up and take action against these exploitative copyright reforms.

  • root@127.0.0.1

    Risk something, take back what’s yours
    Say something that you know they might attack you for

    Cause I’m sick of being treated like I have before
    Like it’s stupid standing for what I’m standing for

    Like this war’s really just a different brand of war
    Like it doesn’t cater the rich and abandon poor

    Like they understand you in the back of the jet
    When you can’t put gas in your tank

    These fuckers are laughing their way to the bank and cashing the cheque
    Asking you to have compassion and have some respect

    ’nuff said

  • DeeCee

    I’m 56 yrs old this year am I one of the oldest Torrentfreak readers?

  • Anonymous
  • Dia

    Influence on the public policy of a country by foreign groups seems to be the trend these days, what with all the groups (and UN…) trying to protect imaginary Japanese lolis.

  • Peter

    What a load of shit! I demand this dickhead to prove there actually is a Democracy in Canada. I challenge this twit to show me a Democracy anywhere in the world.

    There is none, and stop talking this bullshit like we have a choice in policies, laws etc.

  • saxmaster

    @ 82: Not by far – I am 71 (with the mind of a teenager).

  • Anonymous

    The RIAA/CRIA has abused the system long enough, we’re just leveling hte playing field.

  • TerribleTony

    My lord, I soooo wish I still a teenager. :D

  • anonymous

    come on people. you know the rules. we as customers/individuals are not allowed to disagree with anything the ‘industries’ or their representatives say. we are just supposed to accept it all as being gospel truth, the only way things can be done. the fact that they as companies influence those in power using any method/incentive available to them is irrelevent. the UK and its DEB is an extremely good example of how democracy DOESN’T work. companies that have interests in something being done a particular way and the ignoring of how ordinary people want things done. that is why there is so much crap there now about transparent lobbying and which company is contacting which MP and for what reason.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, the hypocrisy is strong with this one.

  • RIAAtarded

    Screw that lawyer. Here is a news flash being a democracy canadians have the right to exercise their opinions. They are just pissed that rather then sneaking their BS laws into reality you blew the whistle on them and we bitched in record numbers.

  • MTLhabs

    That’s just insulting. Thousands of people participate to have their voices heard and this ‘lawyer’ has the nerve to pass it off as abuse. The fact that people like him even exist IS abuse.

  • Anonymous

    Hey, good going Richard Owens. By making a stink about this, you’ll only drive more readers to TF, leading to more pro-free internet people.
    By complaining, you just made your job harder!

  • I copyrighted Richard Owens and now own all IP associated with that property including his wife.
    Be aware she will have a DRM system so cyber will be fair and even..

  • Goug

    I guess the pro copyright lobby did not get their wish of having a law pass without anyone speaking out. I am surprised they did not outright call Torentfreak terrorists.

  • Gah

    Sue the fucker under libel laws. For people “not in the know” this would damage TF and CCER’s reputation. It’s bold lie. If I can’t claim that he abused 5 year olds (for example), why does he get to spew this crap ?

  • dncholas

    Richard Owens is a mouthpiece for the media giants who pay him money. For him to make accusations and attempt to repress coverage and shared info to the Canadian citizens is a disgrace to all Canadians and he should be punished for his words and false accusations. People like this need to be put out into the light for all to see what they really are.

  • Cuckanuck

    Richard Owens, I know it’s not fair that people get to say what they believe…but that is the essence of the democracy. Therefore, by trying to stifle innovation in the law through suing sites like torrentfreak, YOU, Richard, are the asshole who is hurting Canadian Democracy. Good day.

  • 1@zionist-swine-corp.info

    Canadian zionist are the most bad shit in the world!

  • THANKS

    @99:
    yeah, would be fair and square, but as the good guy, TF has to endure it, or else some half-brain media outlet will ask:”why do they sue for libel, what do they have to hide, are the accusations true?”

    so there, like they say in germany, “the smarter one gives in (to agression)”

  • lol

    @torrentfreak isn’t what this lawyer is saying fall under the terms of slanderous and liable? If none of his statements are true and can be proven to be false, then he is surely leaving himself open for a lawsuit, especially if the ccer isn’t what he is claiming it to be, along with his outlandish claims against TF?

  • Things that make you go hmmmm

    Im left wondering why we elect representatives to make our decisions until next election. We have the power to communicate easily now. Canada asked Canadians what we think and we told them. So why is it still in question? Because the entertainment industry has more money than us, thats why.

    Canadian TorrentFreak reader, 28.

  • hms-one

    32 yrs old. It’s my birthday. I am kind of surprised. I fit their data perfectly, but i am surpised to find I am the norm on TF.

    I think TF needs a “Jackass of the Year” award contest. This guy would be a frontrunner.

  • Knarf

    The lawyers and corporations are the ones who are abusing of our democracy.

  • Jeff

    I’ll say the same thing about Richard Owens that those on Slyck.com said about Andrew J Crossley and the rest of those at ACS:Law – WANKER.

    I wonder, do all pro-copyright lawyers employed by the MAFIAA share the same playbook? Because this lawyer sure acts a lot like Crossley.

  • me

    So, only lawyers of the *US* MAFIAA cartel are allowed to abuse the *Canadian* system? Surrealistic! :)

  • AntiHero

    this guy just wants some publicity, what a douche.

  • Bud

    Kill all the lawyer’s!!!!

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  • Ricardo

    Thanks calling me a teenager. Its good to see that when we are 42. :)

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  • Anonymous

    He’s from Toronto. The home of Canada’s criminal scum.

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  • Anonymous

    What an idiot. Glad he ruined his own reputation like this worldwide!

  • tosser

    “We must not let our democratic process be abused by shadowy organizations working with foreign purveyors of copyrighted material.”

    Fix’d

  • Ramonçito

    There is nothing democratic with copyright legislation.. Legislation is bought with money, lots and lots of money, spent to buy legislators senators and other influential people in countries. Behind closed doors and in secret, laws are being drafted and schemes set in motion to try and pass those laws (like ACTA) no democratic parties are involved in that anymore.

    Once those laws become active, you won’t get rid of them anymore. Once freedom has been taken, you won’t get it back so easily (like the ‘Patriot’ Act).

    You may think you have a vote but you really don’t ;-)

  • Whatever

    “piracy havens like Canada”
    Canadians, please take offense…..

    “mod-chip manufacturers”
    I guess anyone can have their opininion however there should be a law that lawyer minions should not be allowed to state anything as a fact unless it is true.

    “We must not let our public consultations be abused by shadowy organizations working with foreign purveyors”
    This must be the most HYPOCRITICAL thing a MAFIAA employee could ever have thought off. This is exactly the description of this lawyer working for the shadowy US MAFIAA… very much foreigners to Canada. Or did i miss the part that Canada became a part of the US now.

  • Guizmo

    Wow, this lawyer is so ignorant.

    He tries to invalidate the submissions by claiming it is not representative of the canadian population because there’s not enough French, there’s not enough women.

    Do you think Prime Minister Stephen Harper and the conservative party are representative of Canadians? They’re a minority goverment, so hell no they’re not! Ontario/Quebec and Eastern provinces will never vote in majority for those retards.

    What a piece of garbage this guy arguments are. I can’t say why there wasn’t much women, but I have a couple of explanation for the francophone part.

    Since I am quebecer, let me tell you that even if the consultation were in Montreal on July the 30th, I havn’t heard a thing about this. I havn’t seen anything in the news saying they were consulting at the town hall this day. Actually, I did not even heard about the consultation at all…

    Before reading this article, I had never heard about the CCER.

    What I beleive happened is,

    1-quebecers are not really concerned about copyright infrigment, quebec shows aren’t that easy to find on the internet, the community is much underground or with extremely limited members private tracker.

    2- quebecers want their own CRTC, so they won’t really participate in something they don’t beleive in.

    3- the consultation occured in only 8 cities, from them only 2 have a strong francophone population near. It’s just a simple mathematical calculation.

    4- The UDA (Union des artistes) which represent artist in Quebec, the ADISQ (Association québécoise de l’industrie du disque, du spectacle et de la vidéo), which are the representative of the video/audio-recording industry in quebec, does not approve represive methods to stop copyright infrigment. They beleive education is the key to winning the battle. They’re not lobbying canadian’s authorities to enforce the copyright laws.

    5- Almost everyone in Quebec “pirate” music, the cops, the judge, the lawyers, you speak to anyone, they all gonna tell you sometime “hey, you should download this, it’s a very good song”. But, our recording industry still makes record annual sales, why? because we buy the song we like when we have the money for it, it is as simple as that!

    6- there’s less original content made in quebec on television years after years. broadcasters are buying american tv shows, dubbing them, or buying the dubbed version from France, or they buy american show and sub them. Since there’s not much quebec content produced, there’s less content pirated. Who the hell will pirate “biggest loser” with subs (even without subs lollll)? you won’t watch it on tv, you’ll surely not waste montly bandwidth on it…

    7- ISP in quebec won’t give up subscribers identity to copyright enforcement agencies. Except from one (Videotron). Videotron is owned by Quebecor Media which own a lot of tv stations, a couple of recording labels, a couple of movie publishers, so of course they’ll provide the information, they try to protect their other business.

    8- consultation was during summer, i don’t know about you guys, but in summer i do not watch tv and do not buy the newspapers, i enjoy my summer(school vacations) outside.

    So basically, francophone in Quebec thinks differently, they don’t feel concerned by this issue. That doesn’t means those who submitted a form should be rejected.

    And seriously, in Canada, Internet crimes are handled by RCMP. The Internet crime division is very small and I remember a news a couple of months ago saying they had plan to shrink it… So if you think the RCMP is going after pirate… they’re going fter much more important matter like pedophily and security hackers.

    my 2 cents

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