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Leaked Documents Reveal Anti-Piracy Cash Operation

A source inside lawyers Davenport Lyons and their partner DigiProtect has leaked sensitive documents detailing how the companies generated profit from porn. They show how the pair extracted money from alleged file-sharers, how the revenue was split and how individuals were ranked to decide who to chase and who to leave alone.

leakedIn 2007, UK lawyers Davenport Lyons (DL) got into the lucrative business of threatening to sue file-sharers. Their clients used anti-piracy tracking companies to harvest the IP addresses of many thousands of users allegedly sharing video games. This information was used to get court orders which forced ISPs to hand over their details.

DL then wrote to the individuals demanding several hundred pounds to make the threat of a lawsuit disappear. Some paid up, but many did not, and the only cases DL took to court were against those who didn’t defend themselves.

Generating revenue from porn proves controversial

Then the law firm overplayed its hand and got into bed with DigiProtect, the German piracy exploitation outfit with a catalog of hardcore porn titles to its name. The rights were signed over to the company by the copyright holders so that DigiProtect could use them to generate revenue – lots and lots of revenue.

After mountains of bad publicity, DL withdrew from this business model. In May this year, the exact same scheme reappeared with UK lawyers ACS:Law. TorrentFreak asked company owner Andrew Crossley about the connections between ACS and DL – his reply: “NONE”. However, it was crystal clear that there were many links, not least that staff from DL were now working at ACS:Law directly on these cases – known cyber-squatter Terence Tsang as one example.

We’ve known all along that if those threatened put up a spirited defense and refused to be cowed they were never taken to court, but we had no proof as to the mechanism employed. Then, out of nowhere, months ago someone from inside either Davenport Lyons or DigiProtect leaked lots of sensitive documents to German news outlet Gulli.

Having remained secret until now, the documents made very interesting reading and along with a helping hand from TorrentFreak and armed with the leaked personal details and email addresses of some of the letter recipients, Firebird77 at Gulli was able to confirm the authenticity of the documents.

Document 1 – Ranking alleged infringers in order to decide who to pursue

The first document reveals how the targets are ranked based on an estimation of how likely it is that they will pay up. Each alleged infringer has their details filled in on a form (download here from WikiLeaks). The document shows that despite the claims that an IP address alone is irrefutable evidence of an infringement and will lead to being taken to court, the reality is rather different.

Letter recipients are given a ranking based on many parameters. Does the law firm want to continue to pursue the person? What are the chances of success? A zero would mean “no action” up to ten which would mean the respondent is ripe for maximum pressure. One letter recipient hired Michael Coyle at Lawdit Solicitors to defend him and this earned him a “three”.

One part of the form is entitled “Circumstances” and this is a very surprising section indeed. Despite the “fact” that the law firms supposedly already have solid evidence of infringement that they say will lead to court action if recipients don’t comply, the section seems to show that they make their decisions on who to pursue based on the recipients’ personal circumstances.

One circumstance is labeled “impecuniosity”, i.e the letter recipient is flat broke. Another is whether the recipient is on state benefits – this is expected to be proven by way of copies of benefit books and/or letters. TorrentFreak has evidence that one gentleman was asked to prove that he was indeed disabled in order to make the claims go away. Other circumstances include whether the recipient is a pensioner, a student or a child.

One other circumstance is an eyebrow-raising “out of jurisdiction” (no rightful claim could be made the against the recipient) along with whether or not the individual was aware of that fact.

The form also lists possible defenses that recipients rely on, including the breach of their wireless router, a virus infected PC, not being at home when the infringement occurred, no knowledge of infringement or the possibility that someone else in the location carried out the infringement.

Document 2 – Letter from lawyer Dr Kornmeier from Kornmeier & Partner to Brian Miller at Davenport Lyons

The 14 page document (download from WikiLeaks) details the agreement DigiProtect enters into with rights holders in order to exploit their copyrights for profit.

Included is a section which confirms that the original rights holders sign over the rights to DigiProtect so that they are legally allowed to make the works (hardcore porn movies) publicly available on P2P networks such as BitTorrent. Dr Kornmeier asks: “Does this constitute any problem under UK law?”

According to page 2 of the letter, when the recipient of these letters pay up, the spoils are divided up as follows – 51% to DigiProtect, 37.5% to Davenport Lyons and 11% to DigiRights Solutions. The remaining pages detail the exact business arrangement along with a list of the hundreds of porn movies covered by the agreement.

TorrentFreak discussed the documents with staff at the excellent BeingThreatened.com, a site set up to support and inform those targeted by Davenport Lyons and ACS:Law in the UK.

“These documents confirm what we have long suspected,” they told us. “This scheme is not about getting justice for the rightsholders at all; it is there to fill the pockets of companies like DigiProtect by exploiting many innocent people. Everyone with an IP address has reason to be worried about becoming a victim of these exploitative practices, whether they use P2P networks or not.”

Indeed, John Stagliano, boss of porn company Evil Angel which also worked with DigiProtect, admitted to earning less than £50 from each infringement and told the BBC the scheme “…was completely misrepresented” to him.

Uk consumer magazine Which? earlier reported Davenport Lyons to the Solicitors Regulatory Authority for alleged “bullying”. It will be interesting to see how these documents develop that case.

Thus far just two documents have been made public. Stay tuned for further updates.

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  • http://www.eZee.se www.eZee.se

    Scumbags of the highest order.

    And they dare to call us pirates, low down f*cking rogues.

  • Gargamel

    Surprised? You shouldn’t be.

  • Anonymous

    Owned

  • scarface

    Since when did anti-pirates turn into mobsters?
    Next thing you know, anti-pirates will start kidnapping, killing, and raping people if the price was right.

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  • AHAHA

    Annnnd we saw this coming

  • .neo.stylesnv|DX

    #4

    Those MAFIAA scumbags do already kidnapp, kill and rape people.

  • meh

    Nice, we have finaly found the real criminals. Hopefuly they will be brought to justice and put in jail.

  • Yarick

    It used to be the mafia would approach store owners and threaten to break the windows of the store every week if they didn’t put a jukebox inside.

    This whole business kind of reminds me of the same racket.

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  • Anonymous

    neo.styles, is that you?

  • Bleh

    Take that assholes :)

  • Whatever

    I thought that entrapment is something against the law. Is that different in Britain. Only police can use that under controlled circumstances.

    The fact that they are uploading, depending on the exact circumstances , will give some interesting possibilities. And nobody says their torrents are illegal to download or share when descriptions are uploaded to a site. So the unsuspecting user can assume it is OK now since it is known the MAFIAA spreads the content themselves.

    Some possibilities:
    1. If they are creating and uploading themselves then there would be nobody to sue because they gave it away. Did they mention you cannot download it ?

    2. If the use existing torrents they first download something they cannot be sure of that it is theirs so they may be infringing someone’s copyright (descriptions are deceptive) or catch a virus in the process.

    And there is another issue, there is no way for them to see if the downloader shared again when they only upload and they probably never uploaded a full copy to any user or even if they did then they still gave it away.

    It seems like that even if they were able to prove without a doubt who it was there would still be no case. (not using legal knowlegde, just logic)

  • Cazman

    Oh god I can see events that’ll lead to a court cataclysm here :O

  • lolz

    finaly i got a good porn list to download :P

  • Annoyed

    Where are all the people that say WE are thieves and criminals and to just admit what we are doing is wrong?

    Well Tutame, what say you? Where is your “Balance people”?

    They engage in immoral and unjust acts and profit BIG $$$ and yet WE who share for FREE and make 0$ are the thieves!

    This is why people give the one finger salute to MegaCorp-I-Want-It-All! Nuff said.

  • SomeGuy

    @4

    Nice slippery slope argument.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope

    @6

    I’d like to see proof.

  • Annoyed

    Hey TF,
    Try carrying this story, its on topic, not spam,or a personal attack.

    http://labs.timesonline.co.uk/blog/2009/11/12/do-music-artists-do-better-in-a-world-with-illegal-file-sharing/

  • Annoyed

    @SomeGuy

    For your comment directed at #6

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm

  • Phoenix

    these are real terrorists !!!

  • Disgusted

    Their company is a disgrace so much stress, sleepless nights and temporary medication. I can only pray karma gets Mr Crossley and I am confident it will.

    Crossley save yourself a punishment and pack it up, retire Im sure you have made enough :/ it will save you in the long run.

  • Glemball

    You look for us but we now see you for what you are.YOU ARE NOW IN THE LIGHT..

  • Jinxy

    Glemball what do you mean

  • Toasty

    Not surprised.

    RIAA, MPAA, and whoever else like them. Always showed signs that they want more money. From scare tactics to stupid lawsuits to ridiculous claims and excuses.

    They’re such a group of hypocrites.

  • ..

    @21 l2read if you didnt get it then kill your self

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  • Glemball

    @21 We can now see that these law firms are only interested in making money with scare tactics and now with them being in the light they will have to try and justify those tactics..

  • Dave Knows

    where’s reasonedmind to defend these buggers ?

    quite clearly these buggers are pure evil.

    i am sure these bugger will get their just deserved.

    One hope that all pain and misery they cause hit’s them 10 fold.

    May them and their families,colleges,partners,financiers suffer (like they have to others) all the worst and remind them of a eye for an eye.

    Let them reap what they sew.

    and after that i remind you that is all in the name of imaginary property.

    Like some has said here before play poo smell like poo.

    i doubt anything will come of this no hearings no prosecution nothing. wikileaks will expose them for the evil narrow minded primitives they are.

    Come on watchdog, which, torrent freak, expose these buggers and let them feel the brunt of you wrath.

    This is on par with hitter and the Nazis.

    Peace

  • vyvyan

    Any chances of getting all the lawyers involved with DL/ACS disbarred? That would be an exciting follow-up.

  • diarRIAA

    I’m sure the lawyers of those companies troll this web site on a regular basis.

    I bet neo.troll, sometroll and Reasoned Troll REALLY love the lawyers. ;)

  • ultraleetj

    hahaha… got busted! :P . The more transparent we are perhaps the better of a world this will be

  • SomeGuy

    Shut up diarTROLL.

    @19/Disgusted

    Know who else had sleepless nights, stress, and disgust?

    Alan Ellis, the TPB 4, the people who used to be behind EliteTorrents, etc.

    :)

  • A non

    To quote from the upcoming Clash of the Titans…

    “One day, somebodies gonna have to make a stand!

    One day somebodies got to say ENOUGH!”

    They think themselves gods over men!
    They WILL fall!

  • MissedMemories

    hehe.. NEver though Porn was on their hands.. another thing to stop watching at..

    But… You can’t sue them for sueing you for something you didn’t do, or rather, they MADE you do?

    … I misss Reasoned Mind.. :(

  • LMFAO

    @SomeGuy

    Hows it feel to be such a loser on a loser team? Spread it wider!

  • disgusted

    @29 that did actually help :)

  • LMFAO

    @MissedMemories

    raisined mind only works on weekdays!

  • SomeGuy

    @32

    Last I checked, it was torrent site admins and p2p users who were losing their court cases

    :)

  • LMFAO

    @Someguy

    Yes, that’s right, go after those pesky handicapped, pensioners, and old ladies that sing. Good job at making the world a better place!

  • obvious

    OMFG, just had a look at the titles which DP is protecting. Look at the last pages of http://88.80.16.63/leak/davenport-lyons-and-kornmeier-monetary-and-working-correspondence.pdf

    I guess that’s why we haven’t heard much from Resoned Mime or Neostylus. Since the MAFIAA cancelled their last paychecks they’re over in San Bernadino valley, swallowing cum by the gallon. They can be seen in quality family entertainment such as:

    505 Cum Stained Casting Couch 09
    ( can’t believe they’ve made 8 prequels witht the same title!) 512 Smothered and Covered 03 and not to mention the title hit of all time: 551 Tinker with my Stinker 02

    Yaah, so I’m feeding the soddin’ trolls – so bloddy sue me!! These unholy lawfirm/porncorp alliances got me steamed up so I wanna take it out on somebody. What better way than to verbally beat the living crap out of a couple of wimpy troll girlies!

    Reasoned and Styles f.uck you both!

  • LMFAO

    @ SomeGuy

    IFPI Loses: Telenor Will Not Block The Pirate Bay
    http://torrentfreak.com/ifpi-loses-telenor-will-not-block-the-pirate-bay-091106/

    Anti-Piracy Group Throws in the Towel, Pirates Walk Free
    http://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-group-throws-in-the-towel-pirates-walk-free-091107/

  • A non

    @37

    I can’t stop laughing.

  • Sendaii

    And yet we are the evil ones.

  • nnnnnn

    This is funny.

  • John Stagliano (Pr0n boss)

    Darnit!! (got automoderated first time around)!

    Reasoned, where are you hiding you little vermin! Drop your c.ock and get back to the keyboard and defend us, your TRUE masters!

    I just had a talk with your supervisor over in the valley and he quoted Tenacious D to say:

    “He’s gonna make you his se.x-slave
    - You’re gonna gargle mayonaise!”

    Now quit lollygigging and get back to work!

  • IHeard
  • IHeard

    @37

    This line make me laugh :-)

    Tinker with my Stinker

    Those porn creators do like to play with words LOL

  • UncleF’cker

    @37 obvious
    HAHAHA!!!! ROTFL!! Totwlly cracked up!

  • SomeGuy

    Did antipiracy groups loose any money in those cases?

    If anything, just paltry lawyer fees.

    When ya’ll loose cases, you pay statutory fees and face jailtime up the wazoo :)

  • SomeGuy

    @37

    Isn’t their strategy brilliant? No one would want to attend a court case, where they would have to defend/explain why they were downloading those titles.

    That’s why they default, because they can’t face the shame!

    =P

  • Trelew

    Sadly this doesn’t surprise me. Big Business controls the governments and to some extent the courts by putting on show trials that they can use to make more money and free PR for their propaganda.

  • Lawyer-exterminator

    @37
    Damn, it must suck to have your name Kornmeier & Partner on a letterhead with all the pr0n. Might as well change the company name to Kornhole and Partner…

  • Cannabis

    what do you have to say to that reasoned mind, neostyles and torrentbeakz. huh i want an answer now!

  • Cannabis

    What do you have to say to that reason-neo-beakz? i want an answer and i want it now.

  • A non

    @SomeGuy

    You know all about taking things up the wazoo, don’t you! And its “lose” not “loose”! That’s what your a-hole is! Learn to spell moron. I know your speak english because no one else says ya’ll.

  • JTK

    This don’t suprise me at all. Let’s hope that now this is out it’ll get ACS:Law and DL done for good, the bastards. To think they call us pirates!

  • Encore666

    These vulture’s dispositions are WEAK. If you give in to these moneygrabbing bastards YOU are weak. There is no need.

    It is clear by the emergence of these leaked documents that if you put up even the most feeble defencence they will move along to the next potential gullable victim.

    Respond!
    As we’ve seen, if you don’t there’s a good chance they’ll sneak it to a court and win by default as you are a no-show.

    Slow the dialouge down!
    Every second counts for these f*ckers as they are on the clock. They are a bit like telephone salesmen. If you consistently waste their time it becomes a liability for them.

    Question everything!
    Don’t take anything for granted.

    Deny everything!
    Never admit to anything.

    Fight if necessary!
    If neccesary in the initial stages, spend $300 on an hour of a good lawyer’s time, to write these vermins back. It sends a clear message: I’m willing to fight – are you? Besides, paying a lawyer to legally bitchslap them has a certain satisfactory feel rather than just spredding your asscheeks and taking it up #2.

    Consult with BeingThreatened.com
    Never back down!

  • RufusDufus

    I think this sort of thing does not help those accused.

    The document shows that they actually consider all the cases properly and individually review them. The accusation that they ignore letters goes out of the window.

    How is knowing the profit split going to help those that have been accused? It’s a business transaction, of course there is going to be a revenue split.

  • A non

    @RufusDufus

    Your name says it all.

  • Sil

    @55
    Duuuh, think!!! Knowing your enemy is half the victory.

  • Reasoned Mind

    By the way, I didn’t get my cut for these trolling efforts.

    Stagliano got more than me. :/

  • Sil

    Oops, I meant @54.

  • John Stagliano

    @57

    Reasoned, I am your FATHER!

    ;-)))

  • monk majic

    let the fools who live only for money,
    rot with their money,
    when the last tree,
    is gone,
    and the last river is dry,
    only then will they realize,
    you cannot eat money.

  • lol

    Someone should forward these documents to the UK’s watchdog along with a note saying how they are exploiting people. Watchdog don’t take no crap.

  • JustAnotherPirate

    @61

    How is this exploitation?

    They’re smartly and efficiently screening cases.

    Welcome to capitalism.

  • zappo

    So these guys buy the rights to distribute content via P2P. They then put it up and others download it (which is completely legal) as well as share it out (which is not legal, as that person doesn’t have any rights to distribute it).

    To take advantage of this fantastic offer, we just need to use a torrent client that doesn’t upload and downloads only from the original seeder.

  • PuhLeez

    obivous scam was always obvious.

  • DidgyDodgy

    @63

    Digiprotect make it available via P2P by bit torrent, therefore they directly authorise anyone ‘globally’ to download it(from them) and for it to be made available (to others from you), because thats what the bit torrent P2P protocal is all about.

    So where exactly is the copyright infringement?

  • neo|vader

    @ 59 John Stagliano

    John, I am YOUR father hahaha…

    =)))

  • neo|vader

    Where are the lovely RIAA/MPAA trolls anyway?

  • John Stagliano

    @66

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

  • shocked and appalled

    these people are sick and dangerous they must be restrained before they hurt more peeople….and they have the gall to call us criminals and theives

  • A non

    Paragraph two in the second document states…

    “Please note … making their products publicly available,…”

    And a definition of publicly available IP…

    “The jurisdiction of the general public. It refers to intellectual property that has either been voluntarily placed in the public domain by its author,…”

    Would this not concur with DidgyDodgy’s statement?

  • lol

    @65 That’s the point, there is no copyright infringement, but the lawyers sue people who are ill-informed and do not see through their scam. This is why the rating system works, if you can see that someone doesn’t understand several different aspects of the situation, that they most likely will not understand that it is a baseless accusation. They do not want to go to court, that coasts money. They want the person to settle.

  • diarRIAA

    @sometroll

    Sorry if I hit a nerve. *giggle*

    You must sleep really well at night in your fancy home filled with expensive furniture after a long day of extorting from dead people, children, pensioners and single parent low income families, eh?

    I’d rather “steal” 0′s and 1′s instead of being a moralless greedy coward like you extorting from dead people, children, pensioners and low income families.

    That’s right, your form is lower then what a pirate is…you are lower than we are.

    Fucking cowardly moralless troll.

  • How funny…

    Pwned to the hilt :0)

  • Van Helsing

    Sort of like when I hold a mirror up to vampires!

    Wait a minute…

    Vampires are blood suckers, lawyers are …

  • Greybeard

    It’s not like the bottom-feeders are putting any substantial dent in piracy, but then again that’s not their goal. At least the pirates aren’t turning a profit off of piracy.

    But I guess every eco-system needs to keep its tank free of algae ;)

  • Anonymous

    Naturally since the corrupted authorities are not going to do anything about this we will have to find the responsibles at Davenport Lyons and their partner DigiProtect and do justice ourselves.

    This is a work in progress and frankly if I was one of these parasites I would have problem sleeping at night because clearly shit is coming their ways at supersonic speed.

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  • knux

    What do you mean this is the FIRST time and that WE ARE JUST NOW finding out that they out to make money, not justice… In the previous interviews their CEO said, “It is quite a lucrative business and I would be happy to show you just how much money we make.”

  • Dustin Eirght

    OK< Is anyone actally surprised by this? I mean really?

    Jess

  • iFox

    As many people stated, for those who don’t understand the issue.

    The law firm owns the rights to the posted list of (porn) movies. They voluntarily put these movies up on torrent sites for people to download.

    —THIS MEANS ITS LEGAL TO DOWNLOAD IT—

    They then record the IP Addresses of anyone downloading and uploading. With these, they are able to threaten the owner of the IP address, though without any actual legal basis.

    The person is to either a)Pay $xx.xx , b)Go to court, or c)ignore it.

    These people are then ranked on who to sue. Anyone who resists gets a lower rank and is less likely to be sued, anyone who ignores it will most likely be taken to court for exaggerated amounts, and if they pay the settlement then the law firm gets free money from people who know no better and only had to pay for the ink, the paper, and the postage of the letter.

  • adjfkaj

    If you ever get a letter like that, send the cocksuckers a bill for half a million just for the time it took you to read it.

    Follow it up with your answer of “go and fuck yourself”, and then send them a bill for another half million for “consulting”. That’s the language they understand, that’s the language the speak.

  • A non

    US law states…

    vexatious litigation n. filing a lawsuit with the knowledge that it has no legal basis, with its purpose to bother, annoy, embarrass and cause legal expenses to the defendant. Vexatious litigation includes continuing a lawsuit after discovery of the facts shows it has absolutely no merit. Upon judgment for the defendant, he/she has the right to file a suit for “malicious prosecution” against the original vexatious plaintiff. Moreover, most states allow a judge to penalize a plaintiff and his/her attorney for filing or continuing a “frivolous” legal action with sanctions (money award to the defendant for the trouble and/or attorney fees).

    UK law states…

    Term: vexatious litigant

    These are litigants that habitually commence legal proceedings or otherwise bring unmeritorious applications to court. Vexatious litigants bring legal proceedings for the purpose of annoying the defendant and are characterised by an absence of a reasonable prospect of success.

    When courts deal with such claims and applications they are bound to consider whether a civil restraint order should be made against the claimant to prevent the litigant from commencing, instituting or continuing proceedings in the future without the leave of the court. Such orders may be extended by prohibiting appeals from decisions made by the court to restrain future conduct. A current list of vexatious litigation is maintained at the Court Service website.

  • A non

    Sue the bastards if you got/get a letter!

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  • Daemon_ZOGG

    I’m not that suprised, really.
    As I have always maintained, most anti-piracy groups are Greedy Mafia organizations. Including those that serve them. DIGIPROTECT and DAVENPORT LYONS are just two examples of JACK-ASSES WITH GREEDY INTENTIONS AND NO MORALS OR INTEGRITY.
    Davenport Lyons should now be considered a Greedy, Mafia CRIMINAL Organization. ” }:> ”
    They have been added to the Wall Of Slime with the otherz. ;(

  • Typical Jewish behaviour. That’s who overwhelming produces this filth as well as carries out such pitiful ‘legal’ actions.

  • TerribleTony

    Well, that just about wraps it up for copyright.

  • TerribleTony

    @85: No-one cares about the thoughts of a Nazi.

  • A non

    From the µTorrent EULA…

    “You consent to other users’ use of your network connection to download portions of such files from you.”

    I’m sure the other clients have some similar wording.

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  • Anonymous

    who the hell downloads porn anyways? youporn, tube8, redtube, and countless others. Stream porn, quickly rub one out, = awesomeness.

  • Anonymous

    woo does that mean i won’t get sued cause i’m on disability?

  • Cordelia

    They make me sick.

    I have long since taken measures to hide my identity online, and I don’t jump on the biggest torrent for the lates film / album.

    But I suppose one could make a mistake, or be unlucky.

    Right now it seems that the stupid or incredibly unlucky people are the ones getting nailed.

    Thanks TF, for clarifying that the correct course of action is to kick up a hell of a fuss until they target someone else (although I feel for the next victim).

  • my thoughts alone

    While it is sad that people like Jammie and Richard lost their lawsuit, the MAFFIA has stopped trying the individual in the US. It may have cost them their future happiness, but it also cost the MAFFIA much, much money and bad publicity. They will probably never get much from Jammie, and well Richard was an idiot. My point is if you fight and make them show themselves for what they really are, money grubbing, blood sucking leaches, then maybe this kind of thing will stop in the EU.

    And yes, there will probably be casulties, thats just the nature of war. We are at war people. Fight for your right!

    So go ahead Big Industry keep suing old ladies who sing, the infirm, the pensioners, go ahead and see what happens. Bullies ALWAYS pick on those who don’t defend themselves.

  • time traveling white rabbit

    @someguy

    you just keep getting your a$$ kicked but you dont give in…your tenacious ill give you that…ignorance is bliss in your case as you ask for evidence and the people deliver and then you dont even do your homework,er workday work i mean…your no student in school as you have claimed here before…you sound exactly like raisin mind and default styles…

  • time traveling white rabbit

    and davenport lyons can come get me if they would like…they wont as i have no mainstream music on my cp…only death and grind and other indie unsigned bands…cant forget about my zombieland torrent though…damn im screwed…forget my challenge
    (hangs head in embarrasment)

  • twozz

    ooooooh
    Well dodgy and easily overturned in the European court of Human Rights.
    This of course is not the practice of true law but the exploitation of the absense of it. LD could be struck off the UK register or at least recieve a black mark against their name should a Supreme High Court judge condemn unequivably their behaviour.
    However, it doesnt explicitly suggest a (moral?) victory for p2p so much as lay bare the complexity of the free-for-all that ensues under the current laisez-faire economy of cyberspace.

  • Cut n Paste

    “51% to DigiProtect, 37.5% to Davenport Lyons and 11% to DigiRights Solutions.” That leaves 0.5% to be assigned.

    The rights owners payout is almost certainly calculated at 0.5% of the cost claimed in the average letter of claim (approx £600) = £30.

    By comparison Davenport Lyons would get £225 per letter of claim, nice work for sending template letters.

  • Lovely

    Interesting read, notice under “Circumstances” it has Child
    what does that mean in legal would the prosecute a family if a child commuted the act or would they drop it and what does it mean if they are over 60 would they also drop it, same comment with basically all of them

  • Whistleblower

    Enigmax please forward these documents to the BBC, Sky News, The Times, and various news agencies.

  • frost

    @time traveling white rabbit

    “We will make everything metal, blacker than the blackest black… times infinity!”

  • Tsang

    @97

    From ACS:Law Website –

    If the holder of the internet account claims that a young child in their household was responsible for the copyright infringement concerned, it is possible that our client may seek to hold the parent or guardian responsible on the basis that the account holding parent or guardian should have been supervising the activities of the child. It is therefore very important that a parent or guardian supervises a child’s use of the internet to ensure that it is not carrying out any illegal activity.

  • Leakster

    DodgiDetect and this bunch of corrupt solicitors (and that include ACS:Law and his band of pathetic stamp lickers) should be locked up and the key thrown away, these people really are the bottom feeders of the legal pond.
    Let’s hope the pond starts to dry out and allows them to die slowly and painfully at the bottom of the pond, let’s face it we all knew it was a corrupt scheme this is just the confirmation.
    Can`t wait for the next episode of “Solicitors of Shame” when the next batch of leaked documents go public.

  • Anon

    Well here is something interesting I found with a little digging…

    http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_documents/1103_amy_fisher_wm.pdf

    Its a copy of a legal document that details a lawsuit that was brought against RLD Distribution, the porn firm in question here.

    Unsurprisingly it details the copyright infringement THEY commited against Amy Fisher aka Long Island Lolita.

    Just shows how slimy the whole industry is!

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  • Anonymous

    @100

    How is a parent to know if a child is doing illegal activities online, so surely how can that be used in court.

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  • Tsang

    @104
    “it is possible that our client may seek to hold the parent or guardian responsible on the basis that the account holding parent or guardian should have been supervising the activities of the child.

    Basically what they are saying is you are a negligent parent if you do not watch your children when they are online.

  • Anonymous

    How can you be called “negligent” it is impossible to watch your kids all the time, they do things at home/school/online that you may never know about so how are you suppose to watch them all the time, say a download of ANYTHING illegal takes 5 minutes (a song) how are you meant to know what they are doing, are you saying we should sit behind a kid at all times online. Do you think that would hold up in court, I’m not so sure but I’m not a judge or lawyer, what’s your opinion and are you the guy mentioned in the article.

  • anon

    How can you be called “negligent” it is impossible to watch your kids all the time, they do things at home/school/online that you may never know about so how are you suppose to watch them all the time, say a download of ANYTHING illegal takes 5 minutes (a song) how are you meant to know what they are doing, are you saying we should sit behind a kid at all times online. Do you think that would hold up in court, I’m not so sure but I’m not a judge or lawyer, what’s your opinion and are you the guy mentioned in the article.

  • Tsang

    @107

    No its not me. Was commenting on @97.

    I’m not saying you should sit behind your child, but they certainly seem to think so.

  • Anonymous

    Interesting topic but regards to the child matter if the parents did not know about it happening I don’t think action should be taken, a 10 year old living on pocket money cannot afford every cd or game they want whereas an adult with a full time job is a different matter all together.

  • Brudda

    Q: What does a lawyer have in common with a sperm cell?

    A: They each have a one in a million chance of becoming human.

  • LMFAO

    Good one Brudda!

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  • Ninja

    Doesn’t surprise me. Not a tiny bit.

  • Ronin

    @Ninja

    Doesn’t surprise me. Not a tiny bit.

    Ditto!

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