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Megaupload Prosecution Is Lawless and Unconstitutional, Law Professor Says

Yet another law expert has slammed the US Government’s decision to launch a criminal case against Megaupload. Law Professor Eric Goldman argues that the Megaupload prosecution is a “depressing display of abuse of government authority” that ignores basic constitutional rights in order to protect private commercial interests.

kim dotcomIn recent months many people have been baffled by the US Government’s decision to shutdown and prosecute Megaupload.

While the Department of Justice proudly presented the case as one of the biggest criminal cases ever brought in the US, critics claim the Government has gone too far.

Many law experts agree with this assessment and point out that Megaupload is a lot less guilty than portrayed by the authorities.

This weekend Eric Goldman, a Prof. at Santa Clara University School of Law, joined in with his comments. His attack on the US Government is scathing, describing the Megaupload prosecution as a “depressing display of abuse of government authority.”

Siding with Megaupload founder Kim Dotcom who lashed out against the Government earlier, the Prof. claims that the shutdown of the world’s most popular cyberlocker was a gift to the entertainment industry.

“The government’s prosecution of Megaupload demonstrates the implications of the government acting as a proxy for private commercial interests. The government is using its enforcement powers to accomplish what most copyright owners haven’t been willing to do in civil court,” Goldman writes.

“The revolving door between government and the content industry” and the “Obama administration’s desire to curry continued favor and campaign contributions from well-heeled sources,” are the main motivations Goldman cites.

According to the Professor, Megaupload should have never been taken offline. He claims that it’s a modern-day equivalent of the printing press.

“Megaupload’s website is analogous to a printing press that constantly published new content. Under our Constitution, the government can’t simply shut down a printing press, but that’s basically what our government did when it turned Megaupload off and seized all of the assets.”

“Not surprisingly, shutting down a printing press suppresses countless legitimate content publications by legitimate users of Megaupload,” Goldman adds.

In addition, by shutting the site down and arguing that all data can be destroyed, the authorities are destroying evidence and ignoring the constitutional rights of the millions of US citizens who stored data on Megaupload.

“The government’s further insistence that all user data, even legitimate data, should be destroyed is even more shocking. Destroying the evidence not only screws over the legitimate users, but it may make it impossible for Megaupload to mount a proper defense. It’s depressing our government isn’t above such cheap tricks in its zeal to win.”

Professor Goldman continues by pointing out that the Government has to prove “willful infringement” when they want to hold Megaupload accountable for the infringements of its users. This is going to hard, he argues, as Megaupload has several strong potential defenses.

“Whether it actually qualified for these is irrelevant; Megaupload’s subjective belief in these defenses should destroy the wilfulness requirement. Thus, the government is simply making up the law to try to hold Megaupload accountable for its users’ uploading/downloading,” Goldman writes.

In his closing arguments, Professor Goldman points out that actions like the Megaupload prosecution will only make the public more skeptical about the Government’s attempts to control the Internet on behalf of a few multi-billion dollar companies.

“In the end, the Megaupload prosecution demonstrates that SOPA advocates are inevitably going to win. The content owners’ ire toward ‘foreign rogue websites’ combined with the administration’s willingness to break the law, if necessary, to keep content owners happy, leads to lawless outcomes like the Megaupload prosecution and ICE’s domain name seizures,” he concludes.

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  • Anonymous

    i dare say the majority of people here will agree with this article. i certainly do. however, until something happens in court, nothing is going to be settled. the trouble with that is that the USA law enforcement are going to do their damnedest to get the case to a US court, (if that happens, Kim could be locked away there for any length of time under any trumped up charge they wanted), to get a prosecution using whatever lies they have to or get NZ to continue to do the dirty work for them. when it happens, as no doubt at some point it will, even if it’s Kim that brings a prosecution against the US, it’s gonna change the whole face of file sharing and cyber lockers for good, because you can bet your arse, the entertainment industries will be forcing what they want to happen into the final verdict and saying to the people ‘you dont matter, only we do, so fuck you!’

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    • Anonymous

      Its alright, Kim Dotcom has been doing his own bribing – Kim has ‘donated’ $50,000 to a politician (John Banks). Lets see where this gets him? As far as I know the case against Kim is crumbling around him – he received $750,000 back from previously seized funds.

      http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/prime-minister-defends-embattled-john-banks-rh-117765

      • yello

        heres hoping he bribes his way out of it all….. make the (corrupt??) system
        work for the little guy for once…

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      • Guesticles

        Kim donated that 50k to a moron who shouldn’t be in the political sector. As far as I know, Dotcom didn’t do it for malicious purposes, or else we would’ve been labeled a hypocrite.

        • Lord of the Files

           He and his legal team have to get their hands on the governments own internal documents somehow, right? I’m not sure there is any other way to get the evidence he needs to prove just how much corruption went into destroying his perfectly legal tech business. It’s one thing to claim corruption. Anyone can do that. Actual proof however? Now that would be a game changer.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OK7Y7PCSTJ27RCKZ2MGRSAYCTE NEIL

           You got it Guesticles – plus the donation was to the “moron” when he was attempting to become the Mayor of the city Kim is residing in. He failed to win the election so any chance of leverage Kim might have gained back then vanished

      • ANONYMOUS

         Looks more like this is a way of Kim saying “fuck you” to the politicians that didn’t give him a heads up and supported the US.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OK7Y7PCSTJ27RCKZ2MGRSAYCTE NEIL

         That’s actually in the past – not current and it weren’t no bribe – see my post below…

      • Seeee

        John Banks is a joke MP who is under police investigation not because of Kim Dotcom

    • ANONYMOUS

       Quite on point there. No matter how much Kim has in his frozen bank accounts, it cannot mount a defense that will let him off the hook. The only thing he can pray and hope is that New Zealand’s judges are different from the US ones that are appointed by the United States of Fascimerica.

      • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

        I wouldn’t be too sure about that. Kim at the moment is getting more and more evidence on a daily basis for wrongful arrest, for abuse of power, etc.

        I seriously doubt that the entertainment industry has EVERY judge in America in their pockets and any lawyer with a brain, if he found that they had EVER taken money from the MAFIAA would call for that judges recusal.

        • ANONYMOUS

           And USA is more corrupt to the bone than a dictatorship run by Gaddafi. USA just lives under the banner of “freedom” while Gaddafi told every one else to f OFF.

        • Andrew Lee

           Yeah for sure but the guy is right my government is corrupt as hell has been for a very long time. If you look at it like me it’s really on a town to town base. When I was younger I bought my drugs “weed” from the chief of police. I might add that fat fucker sold some pretty good shit lol. This was a long time ago the same town now has pretty much no cops left. A few rent-a-cops with mace rofl!

          Sir I’m going to have to ask you to put the gun down. Sir! I have bear mace!

          It’s like this all of our cities do things their way to a extent. Then we have our counties that decide how much them cities can get away with. Then we have states that decide how much the counties can get away with. Then we have the fed that decides how much the states can get away with. Then we have the elites that pay the feds to make them decisions.

          FYI When I say “elites” I just mean asshole billionaires with twisted agendas for their own personal interest disregarding all laws for human rights.

        • Guest

          It is effectively impossible to bribe a federal judge.  I would not want to be the guy that suggests it, considering it carries pretty severe criminal penalties (20 years/$250,000 fine per attempt).  U.S. federal judges have the most insanely-invasive financial disclosure requirements in the world.  If they drop a penny and someone picks it up for them, someone will know about it and check to make sure there’s no connection to any of their cases.  In the entire history of the United States federal judiciary (from 1789 to today), only *one* has ever been convicted of bribery.  Less than 100 have even had impeachment proceedings started.  There are several thousand federal judges (including Circuit, District and Magistrate judges) employed today, so over 223 or so years, I’d say they have a pretty good track record of not being corrupt.  They may make decisions people disagree with or favor one side or the other, but actual bribe-taking is extraordinarily rare.

    • Retaliator

      “however, until something happens in court, nothing is going to be settled.”

      This fucking US federal government does not care about the law or the justice. .

      So now someone tell me why we should obey the law. It turn out that some of us fell like killing some corporate parasites right now. The federal government carry the death penalty right? Why not us?

      • Guest

         Who is “us”? Somehow, I don’t think I’m part of this “us” you’re speaking of. You keep speaking like everyone who isn’t part of the government is part of some other ambiguous group, and I’m calling bullshit. The idea of a government is to act as the will of society. It has failed in that goal and needs to be revamped, but no individual, and certainly not you, holds the privilege to exercise their responsibilities in times where the government fails.

        You feel like killing corporate parasites. I feel like killing you. Are these both acceptable desires to kill, or just yours?

    • Anonymous

      “USA law enforcement are going to do their damnedest to get the case to a US court, (if that happens, Kim could be locked away there for any length of time under any trumped up charge they wanted), to get a prosecution using whatever lies they have to or get NZ to continue to do the dirty work for them”

      OR  they could just ship him off to any one of the black sites all over the world with NO jurisdiction and no charges whatsoever. They could assassinate him and send out a little memo about how he was a terrorist and then tell us we can’t have the details because of “national security”. They can and will try to hold him indefinitely without any charges and because Obama has the Ndaa and patriot act. all these formerly treasonable offences are covered under retroactive immunity meaning they have absolute power to send a drone missile through his fucking window with no consequences at all. The united states is a fascist police state and any other conclusion is simply mental masturbation

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  • Daywalker

    Jupp USA go fuck A duck

    • Maadichigo

       no its go fuck a eagle usa

    • Anonymous

      They can go fuck a tree as far as I’m concerned.

      • http://twitter.com/Wirehedd Wirehedd

        most environmentalists would say the US is already fucking ALL the trees out there with their allowance for polluting criminal organisations who willfully destroy vast swaths of trees to perform strip mining in Virginia.

        Just had to point that out. :)

        • Daywalker

          + 1

  • Anonymous

     ”In this year of the storm, the winners will build windmills and the
    losers will raise shelters. So flex your muscles, fellow pirates, and
    give power to us all!”

  • Gerry

    Fags

    • dr

      Cannibalistically barbaric sickening psychedelic and a lowlife hopeless piece of shit!

      • Wayne

         I highly doubt the USA government are cannibals, quite frankly.

        • I highly doubt

           When food is empty they’ll be the first to kill and eat you. Wanna bet?

    • CLL

       We fags are too busy being fabulous to be involved in this sorta business. Try again, Fred Phelps.

      • I am OldFag

        ?  the context is ?  ( not anti-gay )

        “fags” was redefined a long time ago.
        To support gay people and ridicule homophobes

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGyKBFCd_u4

        • LittleUrn

          Fags is, and always has been, a slang term for cigarettes.

      • Wayne

        Fag also means Cigerette which is symbolic for being disgusting. It’s used as a word to insult fags like the USA government. Don’t assume fag means gay! Remind yourself that words evolve, just like ‘gay’ ment ‘happy’ a few years back. Now fag/faggot are used as a negative word against people who are being stupid. I as most people when call someone a fag or a faggot do not mean litterly “you shag same sex” but infact mean “you are a stupid mong” just like when I call someone a wanker I do not mean “you masterbate, that’s a bad thing” since that’d be hypocritical (rolleyes).

        • http://twitter.com/Mork15 Mork

          Right, you fucking retard, he’s calling him a cigarette as opposed to the pejorative for homosexuals. Get fucking real you goddamned piece of shit.

        • sir fag alot

           @twitter-422278182:disqus    Yet you use “retard” ….pejorative for mentally disabled ?

          pejorative for a self righteous wanker… a fag.

          Don’t give a fuck what sexuality you have …. You sir are a fag !

        • Anonymous

          What a moron, Fag means Faggot! not cigarette, thats just typical british forcing their crap on the world and they say the USA does? fucking hypocrites.

      • Anonymous


        What a moron, Fag means Faggot! not cigarette, thats just typical british forcing their crap on the world and they say the USA does? fucking hypocrites.”

        Yes, and actually the word “Faggot” in itself means a lot of things. Actually it’s only the US which has decided to re-brand the word to mean “gay”. Calling a cigarette a “fag” is actually the only slang use which comes close.

        Faggot, fagot, faggots, or faggoting may refer to:faggot or fagot, branch or twig, or bundle of theseFascesFaggot (unit), archaic unit of measurement for bundles of sticksDeath by burning, metonymically referred to by the faggots which fuel the fireAshen faggot (or ashton fagot), Christmas wassail tradition in the West Country of EnglandFaggot (slang), pejorative, now usually for a gay man, also having older and derived pejorative sensesFaggot (food), British meatball commonly made of pork offalFaggoting (metalworking), forge welding a bundle of bars of iron and steelFaggoting (knitting), variation of lace knitting in which every stitch is a yarn over or a decreaseFaggoting stitch, featherstitch, or Cretan stitch, embroidery stitch used to make decorative seams or to attach insertionsMikoyan-Gurevich MiG-15, USSR jet fighter with NATO reporting name “Fagot”9K111 Fagot, an anti-tank guided missileBassoon, variously called fagotto, faggot, fagott, fagotFaggot cell, blast cell type found in acute promyelocytic leukemiaEumeta crameri or faggot worm, from the bundles of twigs it binds to itself

  • Hackerlight

    I completely agree with anonymous because I am not think it fair to judge the duty to usa and give him the maximum sentence as an example’m saying. Nothing will change and I think it’ll be even worse soon ….. (to follow)

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  • PelouzeTF

    See? I told you this is why we need SOPA; we have renegades like Goldman running around making things harder for artists. Did you know I had to leave my special desk just so I could come here and knock some sense into you idiots? Now if you’ll excuse me, WillaLavie is waiting under my desk.

    • Anonymous

      So thats where all the money goes to! :P Soiled doves must be pretty rich.

    • Danny

       Hehe,

      I assume you are not the real Pelouzer as he could never have made me laugh!

      • Anonymous

        Oh, Pelouze and that Anon who always comes out swinging the axe on civil liberties as “inconvenient” make ME laugh.

        It’s like watching two Baghdad Bob’s trying to one-up one another.

    • http://twitter.com/Mork15 Mork

      You are a fucking dumbass. LOL, now get back to your job of blowing Steve Jobs dead corpse, fucking piece of shit.

  • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

    I’ve no idea who this Prof Goldman is but this one-line beauty sums it up for me, “It’s depressing our government isn’t above such cheap tricks in its zeal to win.”

    There is 100% TRUTH contained in that short (almost throw-away) sentence and, when put into context of the stated undue influence the USA’s home-grown “content industry” has over the USA’s own legislature – it even brings into question whether or the US is a democracy.

    I think I’ve found a new soul-mate in Prof. Goldman – and hopefully you have too.  This guy is well worth listening to.

  • Don’t show the facts

    “Professor Goldman points out that actions like the Megaupload
    prosecution will only make the public more skeptical about the
    Government’s attempts to control the Internet on behalf of a few
    multi-billion dollar companies.”

    Fact’s , “make the public more skeptical” , who would have thought ?

    $122,732,063 was spent buying politicians last year by – Movie/Music/TV industry

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      Which is why ‘lobbying’ needs to be totally illegal. If these people want to come to Washington to talk with Senators and Reps, fine.

      But as soon as they do, those Senators and Reps are forbidden from working for that company or taking any money from them forever, and they have to divest themselves of any stock held in said company.

      • Mr. MoneySuit Monacle

        Lobbying will happen anyway.
        Murder ensures they don’t sell us out

      • Anonymous

        Strange.
        You pay some high official in a non-democratic country: it’s corruption and it’s bad.You pay some high official in a democratic country: it’s called lobbying and it’s good.
        I like semantics.

    • ANONYMOUS

       Hi, I would like about $40M to tell my buddies at the Senate and House that they should vote for a retarded bill. Thanks now give me so I can go out and buy my media, cinema tickets and a nice Ferrari. Bye.

  • Anonymous

    The truth is, professors such as Goldman do not carry much weight. Say, if it were a professor from Harvard Law, then the content industry would have something to fight back against. But why do we see a lack of enthusiasm from the more powerful law schools? Its simple, they are making a lot of money out of the whole debacle, they love the content industry because of their deep dark pockets.

    This is what makes me sad, people are always after their own interest, they simply want to make money, and do so by making the law their little bitch. *Excuse my french*.

    I am glad that people with relevant knowledge are standing up to all of this. But, we need to gain more powerful people, with more weight who can really push this forward.

    When google came to defend cyber-lockers, the support of cyber-lockers went up by a lot. What we need are powerful technocrats to be reminded that the law is not their tool.

    But that does not change the fact that the US plays dirty. The truth is, that they always have played dirty and this particular trait will be passed on from generation to generation of presidencies.

    I really did not want to  write this much, but I have to say, the US is stooping too low now, and its going to have major consequences in the future.

    • Guest

      The content industry doesn’t give a shit about Harvard, either. For example, this Harvard study:

      michaelgeist DOT ca/content/view/4062/125/

      Was ignored by the industry because it contradicts their lies, hard. 

      (replace DOT with . 
      I’m fucking tired of having to enter a capcha every time I post a URL)

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OK7Y7PCSTJ27RCKZ2MGRSAYCTE NEIL

         Simple solution – create an anonymous account….

      • Anonymous

        Thanks for this man. It really helps me push my case! :)

    • tonyj

       The professor specializes in Internet Law and Intellectual property.

  • Andycapp

    When a government believes they have so much power that they can do anything , that is the time the people realize the government is not working for them and start revolting , the 99% protests were a small taste of what is to come. This illegal closing of a viable and legal business to protect a small part of the American entertainment industry just make people realize that the laws the Government are passing are irrelevant and not just. The gov may have the power to stop protests in the streets by shooting people  but not online, Online protests are way more powerful as they can disrupt business in a way the street protest could not.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OK7Y7PCSTJ27RCKZ2MGRSAYCTE NEIL

       Trouble is you can’t get the 99% to actually coordinate and agree…..

      • http://twitter.com/Wirehedd Wirehedd

        …and that’s why we have to tolerate so much from the govt. When the 99% finally DO get their act together the French Revolution is going to look like a picket line.

  • PRIVACY is priceless to me

    The internet proves that anarchy works, so every single “government” – which all are corrupted to death by the real goverments, the big greedy psychotic private corporations (ie Apple, M$, Google and so on) – will become a full-blown worse-than-nazi tyranny that only would lead to the total extinction of humanity.

    Kill all the billionnaires !

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      No, don’t kill all the billionaires. Kill all the big name CEO’s who push this bullshit and/or make them forfeit all of the earnings for trying to take away human rights.

    • Kr0nZ

      wow, you didnt even mention the REAL ‘big greedy psychotic private corporation’

      Corporations such as MPAA, RIAA, Goldman Sachs, are soooo much worse than the players you mentioned, as these guys actually seek to strip you of your rights and freedoms and if you try to not do business with you they just enact laws to strip you of your hard earned cash.

      Google, Apple, Microsoft… these guys atleast give you choices… the others DO NOT

      • Guest

        I’d keep Google on the list of ’big greedy psychotic private corporations’  considering how it keeps violating peoples’ privacy left and right, then making excuses for it that sound like they were written by George Orwell.  

        • Anonymous

          except that they havnt and if you agreed to there tos then its your own fault…

        • Anonymous

          To be honest though, not only does Google have an opt-out policy (and incognito mode) – given that their sourcecode for chromium and chrome are open they have so far never had any objection to people creating their own versions which don’t “phone home” all the time. Such as “Iron” for instance.

          As long as you actually get a choice, I can make a threat estimate as to how much privacy i’m willing to abstain on in any given issue. And as long as google doesn’t stray from being voluntary in that regard, I have few problems with it. This is really what differentiates Google from MS and Apple.

  • Steve

    A riot is an ugly thing, and it’s just about time we had one.

     

  • Anonymous.

    FUCK USA AND ITS LAWS.

    • Freddie the Finger

       That us just it. they are NOT following the law. Therefore they are criminals and need to be stopped.

  • anaonamus

    Sad that or Gubmenthas become the toadies for a bunch of sick anus bleaching hollywood fat cat and their sycofants

  • Amused

    This will never go to court….Why?   Because it dosen’t need to. The objective has already been achieved. The entertainment industries wanted Megaupload shut down. Megaupload is now shut down…mission accomplished. I can’t see Mega ever being back online and as successful as it was because ordinary people will be apprehensive about storing their files there, never knowing when they will be seized again. I think Dotcom will eventually get all his assets back but the business is finished. 99% of people will not have the financial ability to sue the USA government for loss of their files and MAFIAA will write the government a big fat cheque to cover any any that do and go back to Hollywood patting each other on the back saying “this is the way to do business”. MAFIAA is happy, US has had an oppertunity to say to the world,”look, this is what we can do to anybody we don’t like. We can destroy them. Everything that’s going on now is just little steps toward the “New World Order and One World Government” that George Bush Sen and Donald Rumsfield talked about during the first Bush administration. Anybody that thinks the western world is still democratic needs to wake up and smell the coffee. Dosen’t matter who you vote for or who you don’t vote for. The outcome will be the same. Control…control of the masses..control of the world… The United States of Earth.

    Rant Over.

    • Anyone

      When MegaUpload finally comes back I’m sure it will be more successful than before
      I can see many people getting a premium account there just to send a signal against the MAFIAA

    • ANONYMOUS

       You’re wrong. All this bullshit COICA, SOPA, PIPA, CISPA (notice how many flopped bills) and more unknown bills have all been proposed under the Obama administration.

      George Bush Sen. & Jun. don’t care about “copyright infringement”. They promote WAR, NRA and whoever builts their billion-dollar weapon industry. I rather want THEM than this fake N*GG** at the roar.

      • Guest

        Obama, like Bush, promotes whatever special interests pay him to promote. 
        And if you don’t think Hollywood was paying Bush as well, you must have been asleep during his administration. 

      • Anonymous

        GWB…Obama…you put an awful lot of distinction between the two sock puppets. I would call GWB a far bigger disaster than Obama which doesn’t prevent Obamas administration from being just as “owned” by their own brand of special interests.

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  • Jaqueobauer

    The US has become a police state, under the disguise of anti-terror laws.  Obama is first class communist, bought and paid for by Wallstreet, and its Fascists.  A person of the 1950′s would not recognize how many things are now illegal ,and carry very severe penalties if posessed.   Common chemisrty set items from the 50′s and 60′s are now banned as explosives, fireworks that explode are banned, hobby rocketry, making rocket motors at home, would get you arrested as a bomb maker today.   The US is no longer a country of the free and friend of t he inventor, as it takes permits and more permits to do anything one did in their back yard 40 years ago.  We would not have a space age today if todays laws existed in the 30′s.  Its the same with the internet and file sharing.  Im too old and ill too relocate to another country and give up my citizenship, but if I was 20 i would have my bags packed for the Netherlands.

    • Desu75

      Netherlands probably wouldn’t want an American. It’s not so simple as packing and going. It takes years and years and hundreds of thousands of dollars in living expenses to do that. 

    • Guest

      “Obama is first class communist, bought and paid for by Wallstreet, and its Fascists.”

      Obama is a first class communist bought and paid for by the ultimate organ of capitalism known as Wallstreet?

      How does a person manage to be a not just a regular communist, but a *first class* communist, while doing the bidding of capitalist fascists, exactly? Please explain. 

      It seems to me that Obama is a capitalist fascist just like the people he works for, and the furthest thing possible from being a communist. First rate or otherwise. 

      • Guest

        thanks. I was just as gob smacked but would not been able to word a reply like you did

      • http://twitter.com/Wirehedd Wirehedd

        I’m glad someone actually understands what the words communist, fascist and capitalist all mean. Sort of. 

        A capitalist can be a fascist but a communist cannot be a capitalist (they’re polar opposites). Also, a communist and a fascist are distinctly oppositional to one another as well. Fascism, indicative of corporate control of governmental policies at the expense of the populace, a communist believes in equalized opportunity and fiscal support for the citizenry. Capitalism in it’s simplest sense is the belief that free market practices, absent regulation and control (there goes the fascist idea) will result in greater opportunity and profits.

        Calling someone a communist fascist is like calling them a fat anorexic. Military intelligence? Jumbo shrimp? Get it? :)

        Thanks.

        • Anonymous

          Actually there’s nothing preventing a communist from also being a fascist save semantics. The core of fascism is the subjugation of the individual under the collective, usually as presented by a strong state run by a minority elite.

          Fascism is in that regard in practice completely divorced from left/right political bent. The Sovjet union was for all intents and purposes a fascist regime. So was the Third Reich under Hitler and Italy under Mussolini.

          However, marxists themselves will be quick to point out that the subjugation of individual liberties under a strong and overbearing state is quite different from when the same happens in a capitalist society.

          You could call a communist a fascist. He won’t like it but assuming he considers the individuals rights to be nullified for the “greater good”, that is what he is.

    • Anonymous

      People really need to get off that “commie”/”capitalist” horse…

      The real issue here is corporatism – an inofficial merger of private interests and the state. If you want to present the left/right view this is what happens when the  big actors in the private sector try to turn the free market into a planned economy as far as they are concerned, and try to establish a state-sponsored monopoly instead of putting up with competition.

      Obama is as much a “socialist” as GWB was. Political sharks in that position will literally swing whichever way the political wind is blowing and Obama is no exception. He is merely catering to the interests which fund his next campaign. Those interests are hardly communist.

      But I wouldn’t call them “capitalist” either.

  • Anon

    More and more goes “digital” and the global governmental/industrial complex has a decision to make. It’s either free and unencumbered or it’s not. If free then virtually “anything goes,” the network remains largely lawless and price for digital product no longer exists. If society accepts governmental definition of appropriate online/digital conduct then we are in the earliest phases of a new, panopticon type governmental surveillance system slowly taking hold. If not, it’s likely necessary the entire paradigm of governmental administration is overthrown. 

    I think we all know this creeping governmental administration is slow and silent and inevitable. While the “adversary’s” bitch on sites like TF. 
    Serious opposition. :-)

    • Fredrika

      > “More and more goes “digital” and the global governmental/industrial complex has a decision to make. It’s either free and unencumbered or it’s not. If free then virtually “anything goes,” the network remains largely lawless and price for digital product no longer exists.”

      Please stop spreading false propaganda. A potential dismantling of the copyright monopoly in it’s entirety, or partially regarding length in time, and removing the control over non-profit use in all countries, not just some as today, does in no way equal that it will be impossible to sell digital services on-line.

      That some monopoly holders have so little faith in the free market and the amazing entrepreneurship of humans is sad to see, but it is a lack of faith that isn’t founded in reality. Reality and many many successful entrepreneurs that can handle themselves on the free market have already proven you and the doomsday scenario the monopoly holders claims exist to be completely wrong.

      Every single sentence you produce is nothing more than false propaganda from some weak failed fascist monopoly holders that deserve to go under, according to every rule of how a democratic society and the free market works.

      That some weak failed US monopoly holders will perish is not a problem in any way, for neither society, US or others, the economy, culture, creators, the goal of copyright, or the growing record revenues of the culture industry.

    • Steve

      Hey, Anon:

      Even if they kill us all, we will give them hell before we go.

      I rarely agree with Fredrika, but two or three hundred more like her and we might win this war.

    • Guest

      “the network remains largely lawless and price for digital product no longer exists.”

      Are you stupid? The network has been largely lawless for its entire existence up to and including the present, and yet the business model of selling digital products remains perfectly viable(see iTunes, Amazon). 

      If you think the death of copyright is going to destroy the content business, then you might want to explain why the content business is currently thriving even though copyright has been dead in the real world for upwards of a decade. 

    • Guest

      That’s telling them, Anon! Now come over here, you earned yourself some more candy under the special desk.

    • Antianon

      When more and more goes digital there will be stronger requirements for burden of proof in that you can’t sue anyone and everyone who happens to share a random IP address you pulled out of a random number generator, because the backlash and chance of error will be that much greater.

      But go ahead and continue making irresponsible statements.

    • Anonymous


      I think we all know this creeping governmental administration is slow and silent and inevitable.”

      You forgot “doomed to fail”. We have ample historical precedent that every time legislation has tried to put technology back into the box it came from, it failed.

      Currently we are at the end of the road for copyright legislation. There is very little the government and industry CAN do anymore without crippling the entire infrastructure of the internet and it’s usability. This is the lesson China learned quite some time ago despite their government ostensibly having every ability to enforce any law they cared to.

      At the end of the day all that got them was the paradigm where the citizen can do whatever he or she wants to online since the government is in real effect powerless to prevent it.

      The very real choice which in practice looms over the US government right now is this: A functioning internet where people do whatever they want. Or no internet at all. There is quite literally no middle ground. Darknets and encrypted peer-to-peer networks generated ad hoc are by their very nature far more resilient than the surface. And they can survive and thrive up to the point where the entire internet cease to function at all.

      The second choice will see every aspect of the US economy grinding to an instant halt.

      Although the TF crowd certainly bitches, we aren’t the “adversary” here. The entire national economy and the world online population is. At the end, that’s where the real resistance mounts. Even SOPA would have been powerless against filesharing and yet it posed a deadly threat to every online legal business. The businesses concerned realized this and threw their weight around. As result SOPA is now no more.

      The same will happen with any other proposed legislation which would make “ordinary” internet activity dysfunctional in practice.

  • Anonymous

    In the case of MegaUpload; as in respect to imposition of the Six Strike regime, the government (and its Copyright counterparties), is working against worsening odds with the meagre means that are on the table. 

    The existing American political process can’t bring itself to address, much less resolve, the implications of massive Monopoly control over huge sectors of the American economy. 

    Legislators who speak with a straight face about “free matkets”, don’t yet realize that the vast public today hears such commentary as malicious farce; and, is looking elsewhere for explanations and solutions. 

    So, where are they looking? 

    Well, they’re not looking to Harvard, or Stanford or Chicago Law Schools; or the Warton or Harvard or Booth Schools of Business, for effective social policy in respect to the damage that the massive perpendicular concentration of national and global resources in a few priviledged Corporate entities are inflicting on their Constitutional Rights; on their prospects for for a safe and secure financial future; on their ability to make their voices heard in the legislatures; on their struggles against daily exploitation in the labor, housing, health, and finacial markets.  Are Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, AIG, The Big For Accounting Firms, JP Morgan likely to be the source of enlightenment on these issues? 

    When it comes to the significance of expanding oligarchic Corporate Monopoly in modern American life, the the political, academic, and business sector silence is deafening. 

    So, where are average Americans to turn as they suffer the abuses and impositions of the priviledged corporate giants who “employ” and “serve” them? 

    Well, they still turn to the courts; in the hope that they will happen upon a judge who sees their plight much as they do.  They also turn to the ballot box; much for the same reason. 

    But, overwhelmingly, they coalese among themselves; and, togeather, they start to find new and different sources for answers.   They become P2P filesharrers; MegaUpload customers; ISP victims of Six Strikes: Class Action Lawsuit participants; Cyberlocker and VPN users; militant PIPA, SOPA, ACTA, and CISPA opponents; and, in the end they come to understand their common perspective to vote the legislators who ignore them out of office. 

  • english frank

    the issue regarding John Banks is of no wrong doing of mr dotcom’s behalf. Banksie didnt declare the money he received, or more so he put the $50k down as from an anonymous person twice, as the maximum amount was $25k per donation for his mayoral campaign, he is now in parliament elect, so banksie is in the shit. and the previously seized assets of mr dotcom’s that were returned was because the idiot police here in nz do not know how to correctly follow procedure, and megaupload’s highly expensive legal team will testify to that. uncopywritten material is still available on megaupload. i downlaoded a free uk grime mixtape via their site.

  • Mett

    no point being a citizen in this society. just take what u can and when pbm arises just say :”soooorry i didnt know; i wont doing it again”.

    • Guest

      People in the USA used to laugh at Canada for being somewhat backwards and slow.  Now Canada is laughing at the stupid Americans because they voted for candidates who push for censorship and bullcrap laws.

      Canada is now above the USA.

      • Steve

        The USA is a bigger turd than Canada, but both of them need to be flushed.

  • harry krishna

    after jailing manuel noriega and assassinating osama bin laden, usa seems to make laws and execute as it pleases

    • Anonymous

      The USA was at war with Bin Laden, and they had cause to shoot him.

      This “war” is being propagated by the MPAA and the RIAA who simply want to control a certain aspect of the internet.  There are plenty of bad things in the world, but it’s Kim Dotcom that they’re deciding to focus on.

  • thupupflfx

     First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. – Gandi

  • Tired of corruption

    # files X i dunno random hollywood figure i.e.. $150,000. I think the copyright groups and lobbyist, should pay that to all people who have had their legitimate files taken down as a “casualty” or a result of “unavoidable collateral damage”

  • Anonymous

    lol, the Kangaroo Court Systems are such a joke. Pathetic.
    Privacy-Guys.tk

  • Anonymous

    The USA’s government no longer fear its people.  They have wasted so much money while the people simply watched, introduced unconstitutional health bills, and have pushed for internet censorship.

    If people actually paid attention to the candidates that they voted for and voted for the BEST candidate rather than the one that they think is cuter, these things wouldn’t happen.  America voted for this to happen four years ago and unless they start voting for decent people, this will continue to go on.

    The professor can be seen as an expert, that’s the only real reason that this article exists.  Most people realize that the government acted without any authority.  They also see that the MPAA and the RIAA are both full of greedy bastards that don’t care about justice or even research.  It’s all over money, and it’s up the people to vote against them with their wallets.  But that’s not going to happen because people would rather do what’s easier.  And, apparently, watching terrible movies, voting for incompetent sleazeballs, and listening to terrible music is easier.

    • Mikehunt99m

       You also have to recognize the false dichotomy strangle hold the 2 party system has over America. It is very much like how South Park put it, its like picking between a giant douche-bag and a shit sandwich.  Both parties are completely bought and paid for and we are lacking a greater diversity in actual choices, not this theatrical we call an election. Real change cannot even start without having a real, open election system.

      The other thing I have felt as of late is the same disconnect between what the populace wants and what the govt does on behalf of companies.  People are not completely dumb and grassroots movements have started to move. But, the system the govt has built for itself makes it very hard to do the correct thing in the eyes of the populace because they have changed the laws to not only allow themselves to run wild but makes it very difficult to revert to normal laws.

      The far right (the pseudo-facsists) have been making pushes such as sopa in order to further strip our rights and bring us closer to being an actualized fascist state.  They have been making these pushes for years, stripping away our rights for so called security, and meanwhile the antidepressant culled masses just keep mindlessly swallowing all of the pablum that is fed to them by institutes such as fox news, but people are starting to wake up and notice that they have had the land sold out from underneath them.

      You are right in that they no longer fear any repercussions from the populace, look at Wisconsin and poorly the recall election went, the opinion of the populace was there in opposition, theoretically, yet they still did not effect the change that they were hoping. 

      I guess that until people are willing to drag themselves out of their apathy hole and do something then there nothing will change, and that makes me sad considering it is something we have done to ourselves.

    • Guest

      “If people actually paid attention to the candidates that they voted for and voted for the BEST candidate …”
      BEST candidate? Kid, every candidate on the ballot is a vile criminal. The whole reason why the USA keeps sliding further and further down the toilet is because naive people like you keep thinking that it’ll fix everything to vote in another vile criminal to replace the incumbent one. But surprise surprise, it never helps. 

      The system is broken. Please wake up to this fact. If enough people do, maybe something can be done about it. But if you keep labouring under the illusion that you can end shit by voting for the right asshole, no progress towards bettering the country will be made. Period. 

  • Wayne

    I’d happily decapitate the US government right now.

  • Anonymous

    The most threatening implications of the MegaUpload Case (as also in the compelling public rejections of PIPA, SOPA, ACTA, and CISPA), both for the the government and Copyright holders, reside in the public confirmation of new political precedent. 

    In both the Six Strike regime and in the MegaUpload case the government and the Copyright Monopolies have overreached on the questions of Constitutional Constraints; activation of mass political dissent; and, judicial disposition on the ultimate liabilities arising from mass denials of Due Process.  

    There does not appear to be a Plan B here. 

    The old political precedent is in effect Plan A:  Under these policy choices the government took as gospel the Copyright Industries’ assertions that massive social coercion must be brought to bear to protect their existing competitive primacy because their market preponderance globally as American National Champions was substantially equivalent to American National Interest.  It would have been a vast public blessing if Congress and the Obamma Administration would have enough independence, imagination and intellectual depth, to see that the Public Interest lay beyond the narrow pecuniary priorities of the Copyright Industry.  Instead, American citizens have been cursed with Plan A:  PIPA, SOPA, ACTA, CISPA; the MegaUpload takedown; and now, the recent Six Strikes Regime, have been the result. 

    For those who keep telling us that once Big Government got behind Big Business to make Plan A, the American people’s goose was cooked, it could have come as good news to watch the brutal alacrity with which the American People stuffed PIPA, SOFA, ACTA; and, now CISPA down the legislative toilet bowl.  

    That is what I mean by the public confirmation of new political precedent.  There is such a thing as as an enraged public putting a stop to government overreaching. 

    There is also such a thing as MegaUpload and fifty or a hundred million ISP customers winning triple damages and attorneys fees for damages. 

    So, then what does the absent Plan B look like?  It looks a lot like what the original Plan A should have looked like:  Monopolies, in Finance, Banking, Insurance and Content Distribution, should have been limited to regulatable size; and, none of them should have been allowed the legal right or political power to stipulate proper policy for government; and, the Constitutional rights, civil liberties, economic welfare, and electoral primacy of the American People, in their individual personhood should have been kept sacred and inviolate as the first attribute of American National Interest. 

    Had Plan B looked like that. todays unfolding developements would reveal an American Government creating the future that American Citizens need.  Instead, American Citizens face the uncertain challenge of bringing their politicians to a new born again appreciation of their limits under the Constitution. 

    • Anonymous

      in all honesty i agree with most of what you said except for the public putting a stop to sopa. google and hundreds of other very powerful companies went to bat for that. titans vs titans if you will. Google alone spent 4 million lobbing against that bs bill. without that nothing would have changed.

    • Anonymous

      “There does not appear to be a Plan B here.”

      Color me not very surprised here. Does anyone remember the Iraq war? The one where they spent something in excess of six months planning the actual war – and once they started the war they had to hurriedly spend three weeks solving the question “What do we do when we win?”. That did not pan out so good, as I recall.
      Given that the only real change in the command structure on capitol hill is the choice of which sock puppet has been placed as office decoration in the white house, I’m not surprised at all to see short-sighted panic reactions carrying the day.

      This is the problem in a nutshell. The entire body politic in the US isn’t being held accountable for lack of insight on any issue. If one in ten senators start putting insane proposals on the table (such as mandated public nudity for adults under the age of 40, or to replace the armaments of the US military with nerf guns, say) then come election time 40% of the active voters will still vote democrat, 40% will vote republican, and the 20% in the middle will take their pick of either of the two poisons.

      Senators and congressmen have a job security most people can’t dream of. They know full well there is no chance their boss will EVER walk in and fire the lot of them for incompetence, negligence, or persistent stupidity.

      Indeed, the only guy who stands a real risk here is the chosen sock puppet, and then only if he manages to leave cumstains on an intern’s dress. I’ve started thinking along the lines that the real job of POTUS is to act as ablative armor when some issue in politics really goes south.

      That being the case they won’t spend effort trying to change a winning model. It’s much the same in the EU – although I could argue that the EU is even worse off, given that before the Lisbon treaty every nation actively pushed their more incompetent members into the commission and the council of ministers just to be rid of them. Now those idiots have REAL power.

      As a result it all goes KIBO (Knowledge In, Bullshit out).

      If we want real change then we have to wait until the vast bleating horde of sheeple actually decides to man up for long enough to haul their asses to the ballot box with the stated intent of throwing out every last current incumbent. Ten years ago I would have thought that impossible. Today?

      Well, what SOPA proved conclusively if nothing else is that the roman paradigm still applies – if you threaten the bread and games – Facebook, Google, all the social sites out there – that’s when you get the sheep grow fangs and charge.

  • http://twitter.com/Anime4PSP Anime 4 PSP

    I wonder if anyone even surprised
    Let’s prosecute US govt :P

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  • Vincent Giannell

    I’ll bet the government are gonna lash out at the law expert for this.

  • foff

    There are starting to be a lot of indications that this  take down of megaupload was a lawless over reach.  What I have a hard time with is this concept of the government trying to win.  Win what?  I think it is more or less well established that the entertainment industry is fighting ghosts.  There simply is no more money to get with or without file sharing.  I could never possibly buy even a small fraction of what I download.  Without file sharing I would simply not have it and find something else to do.  Shutting down file sharing and or extending copyrights to ridiculous lengths does nothing more then aid in hording information and adds nothing to its value.

    Look at Disney they have sat on their collection for years and years.  Now all their best work is fifty years or more old and kids have no interest in old style animation and movies, that and the dialogue just does not make sense to todays’s kids and is often politically incorrect by todays standards.  So most of their collection that they horded for so long and only released sparingly is now almost worthless from a revenue generating point of view.  Even sales of movie dvd’s of movies that are more then a couple of years old for the most part are almost non-existent.  The only thing that sparks a little interest in old movies is a sequel.  Even the star wars franchise is dead among the youth.  By hording this creation instead of allowing it to grow and be added to, it withers and dies on the vine.  So eventually the legacy will die with its creator.

    The take down of megaupload may feel to Hollywood like a gift but I am sure no one is flocking to Walmart to snap up movies and tv shows because they are no longer available on all the cyberlockers they used be.   I am sure 99% of people like me if they cannot get it off the internet they will do without because beyond paying for the internet there is simply not the money there, especially in the dying middle class.   

    • Email

      “What I have a hard time with is this concept of the government trying to win.  Win what?”

      More love from the copyright industry. 

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’m very carefully researching everyone I vote for to make sure they aren’t getting money from the MPAA/RIAA/etc. The MAFIAA can’t run the US if they can’t get any of their puppets elected.

  • Anonymous

    Large Newspapers I would hope will do their Job and report this whole affair.It is a blatant display of the abuse of Government Powers.I want to see them sued as well.
    I Hate My Government ! And I do Boycott All MAFIAA

  • KiwiKim

    Why am I reminded of the U.S condemning China for its censorship, then they turn around, do the same thing, and spout a few lines about freedom/terrorists/pirates/pedophiles etc, etc,

  • tonyj

    Cyberlockers is an evil name invented by the MPAA and RIAA to feed the internet audience a propaganda statement indicating some nefarious activities behind the these File Hosting companies.  Ditch the name Cyberlockers and call the file hosting companies something else like Cyber Printing Press (CPP) because the Printing Press is protected under the U.S. Constitution.

    If we change the name, maybe we can change the game.

  • http://twitter.com/Jess_Lohse Jessica Lohse

    The U.S. condemns censorship in other countries and its own. When corrupt shit like this goes down, that’s because it comes from the other demographic of a country as large as the U.S.: the Asshole group. The Assholes are rich, deeply entrenched in politics and make the calls for the other demographics. Don’t tar all Americans with the same brush, it hurts our feelings.

  • Anonymous
  • Nope

    Seriously? What will it take to get people doing something about this? Morons inhabit this world, all of them.

  • Asashii

    wasnt this dot com fatso rich from his website, screw him have no sympathy for this obese idiot, rather support the smaller guys if you will donate to keep the site going type of establishment, how is he any better then the rich music,tv,or movie Execs making serious jack off of others, double standard huh, rats A$$ huh..bootlegging for profit and shared material or two different things nothing like some idiot screaming about this and that and thats what he becomes the very thing he hates.. good bye DIP Sh!te COM

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Richard-Perham/1543836773 Richard Perham

      Dotcom “bootlegged” nothing dumbass.. he merely provided online storage space for people.. same as a storage locker.. 

  • Guest

    We live in a lawless world where america does whatever it wants and ignores its people, its own laws, jusrtice and the rest ofnthe world as long as it can get away with it.
    Stand up for your rights or lose em.

  • Richardperham

    MPAA? RIAA? Dotcom was about to take his business public.. These organisations are merely pawns doing the bidding of whoever it was that didn’t want to see an IPO which rivaled that of Facebook but which probably would not have occurred through US stock exchanges

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  • Jimbo

    “depressing display of abuse of government authority” that ignores basic constitutional rights in order to protect private commercial interests.”

    Oh my God, so well said I think my brain had an orgasm. Our democracy need an oil change.

  • HalDisco

    Obama is eating in the hand of RIAA & co…. Land of the slave, home of the crooked.

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