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Megaupload’s Planted Evidence Allegations are Baseless, U.S. Says

The Department of Justice has responded to Megaupload’s claims that they planted evidence and tried to mislead the court. According to United States Attorney Neil MacBride these allegations are baseless and unfounded. In a new filing the U.S. asks the court to deny Megaupload’s request for a hearing on the matter.

megauploadLast week Megaupload filed a motion claiming the U.S. Government deliberately misled the court.

The authorities withheld information that showed how key evidence was “planted,” Megaupload’s lawyers argued, referring to a crucial part of the indictment that was also mentioned in some search warrants.

When the U.S. Government applied for the search warrants against Megaupload last year, it told the court that Megaupload was warned in 2010 that it was hosting infringing files.

At the time Megaupload was informed through its hosting company about a criminal search warrant in an unrelated case where the Government requested information on 39 infringing files stored by the file-hosting service.

Megaupload cooperated with this request and handed over details on the uploaders. The files were kept online as Megaupload was instructed not to touch any of the evidence. However, a year later this inaction is being used by the U.S. Government to claim that Megaupload was negligent, leaving out much of the context.

According to Megaupload this course of action was misleading.

However, in a reply filed by the U.S. Government just before the weekend United States Attorney Neil MacBride disagrees.

“Megaupload’s allegations are baseless, as even a cursory review of Megaupload’s pleading and the search warrant materials at issue disproves the allegation that the government misled the court as part of a conspiracy to entrap Megaupload,” MacBride writes.

According to the Department of Justice they never asked Megaupload to keep the files online.

“For instance, Megaupload alleges that the government ‘affirmatively [led]‘ Megaupload to retain certain files on its servers. Yet Megaupload does not cite a single communication between the government and Megaupload or a single instruction from any member of the government to Megaupload; there are none,” MacBride adds.

As is often the case in legal proceedings, this is a matter of interpretation. The U.S. indeed denied to communicate directly with Megaupload, but did request action for Megaupload through its hosting company.

The U.S. further argues that the part about the 39 infringing files was not even mentioned in the search warrant that was executed at Megaupload’s hosting company.

“Similarly unfounded is the allegation by Megaupload that the government ‘planted Megaupload’s alleged knowledge of infringing files’ and misled the Court. Megaupload claims that the government inserted a misleading ‘snippet’ into ‘each relevant affidavit,’ and that the ‘snippet’ misinformed the Court by highlighting Megaupload’s failure to remove content deemed infringing in the June 24, 2010 warrant.”

“To the contrary, no such ‘snippet’ appears anywhere in the primary search warrant at issue in Mr. Goodwin’s motion. That warrant, the search warrant executed at Carpathia Hosting in January 2012 does not even mention the June 24, 2010 search warrant,” MacBride writes.

However, the U.S. Government does not mention that these snippets were used in several of the other crucial search warrants that were unsealed recently.

According to the U.S. Attorney, Megaupload’s request for a hearing on the matter should be denied because their claims are baseless. Since Megaupload’s motion is filed in relation to the civil data retrieval request of a Megaupload user, the U.S. further states that this is not the proper time to address the issue.

It’s now up to the court to decide what to do next.

If the court sides with Megaupload and eventually rules that the warrants are declared unlawful, Kim Dotcom and his fellow defendants will be in a much better position to win the case.

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  • bogdanj

    Oh f**k of U.S.! I don’t think there’s anyone left who believes your lies.

    • Guesing

      You are tragically right. The US use to be first in almost every thing.

      Now they are first only in BS. No surprising since they are controlled by Vivendi.

      • Gacek

        It was always said that USA is free country, Country with most liberity given to people… it’s most currupted place under covering under that statement.

        • dqdfx

          freedom to be bought and sold to the highest bidder.

        • Lurkerattorrentfreak

          I live in the USA. I don’t break any laws, and I would say that I live a very free life.

      • Not Surprised

        Are you talking about Vivendi SA?

      • Lurkerattorrentfreak

        I would agree that they spout a lot of BS, but they are not first. North Korea, China, Syria, Egypt, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan, all spout more BS to their people. And the USA is number one in Military, Colleges, Hospitals, inventing technology (iPhone, Android, Internet, Google, Facebook).

        • Iam Ralph

          hospitals? colleges? maybe the US has the best ones, but only if you can pay for it, and when you think about that fact imagine how low the medical and schooling in the country really is if you removed the best from the averages

  • Logic

    USA is full of corruption

    • Fugasmic

      @markh…. A top university and yet you still manage to spell fascist and fascism incorrectly.

      • SAMPLE

        What if that was just a typo?
        What if his native language is not English (as he said, he’s from Europe)?
        What if he didn’t go to that top university to get a Master’s Degree in English?
        And what if he’s trying to establish a new way to spell phazcist?

        These human spehl chehkers should go to get an online job of that,
        it will be their dreamy job.

        You know how to correctly spell “Hi”? Good,
        now try to learn something more advanced like “yes”,
        we will see you the next month to see if you master it.

        • markh

          actually bachelor of biomedical sciences, which does not include english in the program, but biophysics, chemistry, mathematics, and biology. My field of expertise is more different than the english language. So if i made a mistake it because of country of citizenship. And I agree, people like that should get a jobm which I doubt they actually can with their highschool diploma, except Wall Mart.

        • Ronnie

          “What if that was just a typo?”
          He uses a spell-checking progam before posting.
          “What if his native language is not English (as he said, he’s from Europe)?”
          1) The British are European. They are European, and they speak English (sort of).
          2) He uses a spell-checking progam before posting.

      • markh

        I’m not an english speaking citizen, so yes that means my english is not perfect. Get a life, I doubt if you can speak Dutch, or German. If you don’t get a job because your english might be perfect but at least I have a degree

    • Dnguye5

      Name a place without corruption?

  • Bleah

    I’m getting tired of megashit and kim dot mars.

    Get over it!

    • markh

      and we get enough of the facist government of usa

      • Bleah

        10$ bet u don’t have a clue what fascism is :)
        Kids that use words before searching wikipedia =))))

        • Guest

          ..like you?

        • markh

          You presume that I’m a kid, but I study at a top university. I’m from Europe and fasism was here during the second war. I bet you never been outside the US, since you are ignorant. Kids like you use wikipedia, I use books

        • Anonymous

          10$ bet u don’t have a clue what fascism is :)

          You just lost your bet. :P

          And we don’t use pathetic sites like Wikipedia. On the other hand, you probably use the Urban Dictionary for yours…

          Explains a lot actually.

        • Guessing

          Ya fascists are those who pay you to voice your fake opinion at TF and elsewhere. If you think nobody noticed you are stupid.

          You are a fascist.

        • Guessing

          “I’m from Europe and fasism was here during the second war”.

          Ya, it is still there since you are there.

        • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

          Considering fascism is a politically incorrect way to talk about corporativism, I think he’s pretty much bang on.

        • Nya nya

          I’m a kid too. But I have friends.

        • Poor Thing
        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          “fascist”

          “Fascism (pron.: /ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism.[1][2] Fascists seek to unify their nation through a totalitarian state that seeks the mass mobilization of the national community through discipline, indoctrination, and physical training.”

          “Totalitarianism (or totalitarian rule) is a political system where the state holds total authority over the society and seeks to control all aspects of public and private life wherever necessary.[1]“

          Now go back, read the Patriot Act, the NDAA, and the criticisms thereof. When you’re done come back and argue with the “kids”.

          Not that the US is exactly alone in this category. The EU has been in de facto effect for less than two decades and is already starting to look like a less functional sovjet-union clone in many areas.

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          @Gene Poole

          “Considering fascism is a politically incorrect way to talk about corporativism, I think he’s pretty much bang on.”

          Not quite. “Corporatism” is what happens when capitalism manages to backpedal itself straight into the planned economy of communism.

          I.e. a merger of government and state.

        • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

          Hmmmm…your definition certainly seems to imply that the existence of one precludes the existence of the other. There are communist vibes present in Corporatism (or corporativism), however to call it communist is a term I am certain that Alfredo Rocco and Mussolini (were he alive) would certainly contest. In fact, the Corporatist theory was the origin of the term totalitarianism, since it was intended to merge all divergent interests under the same state umbrella.

          Not that one could necessarily declare Italy entirely 100% fascist, or Russia entirely communist. Ideals tend to work very differently in the really real world.

        • Anon

          Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power.
          Benito Mussolini
           
           ____________________________________________________________
          $3.33 Billion spent lobbying in 2011 alone.
          Bill creation and voting correlate with the money spent bribing.

          ____________________________________________________________
          Revolving Door
          Politician–>Lobbyist–>Politician etc….. getting millions in return.

          EG…. (typical)
          Rep. Billy Tauzin, R-La., chairman of the House committee that regulates the pharmaceutical industry.
          Tauzin helped ram through the Medicare Prescription Drug Bill.
          (The people are not allowed to negotiate prices for medicare drugs.)
          (Whatever drugs companies says, the government must pay = that)

          Now president and CEO of the drug industry’s top lobbying group.
          Tauzin gets a pay package reportedly worth at least $2 million a year.

          ____________________________________________________________
          Campaign Contributions
          98% of election races won are won by the candidate with the most money.
           

          Financial activity for all House candidates, 2011-2012
          Democrats: $482,425,617
          Republicans: $620,283,344

          Financial activity for all Senate candidates, 2011-2012
          Democrats: $302,953,678
          Republicans: $378,230,508

          Financial activity for all Presidential candidates, 2011-2012
          Democrats: $732,741,988
          Republicans: $620,189,571
          ____________________________________________________________

          Benito Mussolini would say that the USA system of government is Fascist.

          You do realize that Fascism is somewhat apolitical ?
          Not right-wing, not left-wing, In today’s standard of conservative / liberal.
          (seems right-leaning. Look closer, it’s money, power, control)

        • Rook

          “Gene Poole 11 hours ago in reply to Bleah

          Considering fascism is a politically incorrect way to talk about corporativism, I think he’s pretty much bang on”.

          You have not paid attention all these years, US government is acting
          as a fascist ruler, removing rights, indoctrinating their citizens
          to fear things like terrorism, file-sharing and in the meantime,
          using those as an excuse to create new tools and laws
          for mass surveillance, total control and the list goes on.

          Gene Poole, your comments are usually misleading.

      • Xult

        ditto!

    • Anon1

      This whole thing is bigger than Kim DotCom. It’s about the US Governments corruption along with trying to become a totalitarian police state, fueled by the entertainment industry’s under-the-table palm-greasing.

  • http://profiles.google.com/pianogamer Knut Harald

    And so they want to deny the hearing? Way to make your arguments credible…

    • dondilly

      The DOJ is desperately trying to recover from a bad situation. Reading their response, irrespective of the merits of KDCs request they are trying to play a catch 22. The fact KDC is outside the jurisdiction of the court is not and should not be KDCs problem. Trying to imply KDC is trying to intervene in the civil case of users wanting their data is an attempt to suppress evidence in the criminal case is playing smoke and mirrors with the facts. Legally, once indicted he has a right of full disclosure of the case and evidence against him and that includes all warrants. With the DOJ fighting tooth and nail to keep warrants sealed, they have a nerve to claim it is KDC trying to suppress evidence. The warrants can be declared illegal and resultant evidence inadmissable now or in the criminal case.

      Now we see what they are really upto. The feds know full well that with their illegal warrants and activitities in new zealand including failure to comply with court orders regarding evidence both illegally obtained and taken out of the country, they know their chance of gaining extradition is next to zero.

      This submition is now a last ditch attempt to keep hold of the assets.

      • MadAsASnake

        That is putting it mildly. The DOJ took out Mega on the basis that they would, after denying a reasonable defense, extract a plea bargain that would obtain some sort of minimal admission of guilt, in exchange of a “light” sentence.

        Without that extorted admission, the DOJ is now faced with a major prosecution, a defendant that is vigorously defending, and no evidence of any quality at all. All they can do is keep it out of court for as long as possible – hardly the basis for a valid prosecution.

        I’m waiting to see who blinks first. Someone will, and it won’t be KDC.

    • Sideshow Blob

      That irritated me as well. The desire to deny a hearing pretty much says it all. The point of a hearing is to get to the truth. Therefore the desire to deny a hearing is a desire to deny the truth. Clearly they wish to prevent it from coming out into the open, something that must scare the Department of Justice immensely given all we’ve seen to date. Otherwise they would welcome it if they truly thought that had a solid, winnable case, would they not?

      Destroying a business ultimately deemed legal by the court? Through illegal tactics no less? Yeah I suppose all the people involved should be scared. Terrified is a better word for it. Hopefully the judge uses some common sense and shows the world that the US justice system isn’t completely corrupt, the only reason I can see for ever acquiescing to the plaintiffs should a hearing be denied.

      It’s well documented that Megaupload was being run above board and well within the confines of the law, particularly the DMCA which the entertainment industry lobbied so hard for (and often ignores themselves). In addition to obeying all DMCA requests, Megaupload even went so far as to provide automated take down tools for all copyright owners to use, a privilege they often abused. That hardly sounds as if this was a company hell bent on breaking the law, a law it may not have even been obligated to follow given it’s not a US based business, nor is the owner a US citizen. A business that kept detailed records of all their dealings no doubt, particularly with the MPAA and RIAA which have proven themselves time and time again to be very underhanded and dishonest.

      All in all this whole fiasco should be a slam dunk for Kim Dotcom in the end, provided the judge isn’t a complete and utter moron and/or corrupt. I barely trust the US justice system as it is. Denying a hearing would only destroy what little faith I had left in it. We’re in for a very dark future indeed should it all go completely sideways. Sheesh, I feel like I’m watching a scary thriller at times. So much suspense and drama. LOL!

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      Yes indeed.

      Megaupload claims the DoJ is forging the evidence and demands to see it.

      The DoJ refutes the claim in an offended manner, then still refuses to produce any evidence.

      Or even a case.

      Yes, “credibility” in this case would mean the defendant should at least be entitled to see the evidence the prosecutor claims will be used to prosecute. Right now the DoJ won’t even talk about what they are accusing Dotcom of.

      Meanwhile the NZ government is discovering that every one of those pretexts used by the DoJ to set their police into action seems to have been so much smoke and mirrors.

  • Anonymous

    Of course they goin to say that !

    This case is all bullshit ! omfg !!!

  • Anonymous

    However, the U.S. Government does not mention that these snippets were used in several of the other crucial search warrants that were unsealed recently.

    This, my friend, this sentence just killed what the US just said…

  • http://profiles.google.com/n2kmaster N2K Master

    Canadian telling you America is no good……. Come to canada, at least we accept the immigrants….

    • Rezident_User

      What? Sounds like someone who couldn’t get a green card in the US.

      • Guessing

        What? If you leave in Canada why do you need a green card?

        • Rezident_User

          Canada is often the second choice for those who’ve been denied entry into the US.

        • Plan

          What? Who are those that want to live in USA nowadays?

        • xpmule

          “Canada is often the second choice for those who’ve been denied entry into the US.”

          But we’re first choice when Mexicans ask you where your from on your vacation to Mexico lol
          Wanna buy some MORE Canadian flags to put on your backpacks ?

    • Guest

      Yeah right… I’ve been kicked twice…

      • Guessing

        Kicking somebody out of a country is a human right violation.

    • Windlasher

      Wouldn’t work. Your growing season is about three minutes long.

    • Dxloat

      Its actually pretty difficult to emigrate legally to Canada also.

    • xpmule

      we Canadians also accept American soldiers who want to avoid being deployed to Afghanistan or Iraq ;)

  • Lies

    stop complaining, UK and other countries are corrupt as well.

    • Aaron Holmes

      OK the people aren’t, the government is

      • markh

        I agree, I have many American friends and they are kind, but the government is like North Korea

        • Andrew Lee

          WTF! Don’t compare my country with North Korea… You’re making North Korea look way more evil than they are. Sorry I couldn’t resist lol.

    • Anonymous

      There was a saying someone said it went something like this

      England, great country! Shame about the government!

      I think that’s spot on!

      • Caring

        Just change “England” for any other country and you will notice
        people, from different countries, say the same about their own country.

        Several nations wasn’t and aren’t able to get more progress
        because their government is corrupt, while a big part of their population,
        landscapes and other things could be nice.

        • xpmule

          fair enough but the WW2 American hero days are gone..
          how many wars etc have been triggered by the USA COMPARED to other countries ?
          Read a history book, it paints a bad picture on the USA !

          Americans think they are like Captain America for the world.. super hero coming to everyone aids by invading countries etc

          Wanna see a REAL hero ?

          http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Heroes/Gen_Romeo_Dallaire.html

          “Canadian General Romeo Dallaire defied U.N. orders to withdraw from Rwanda. Without the authority, manpower, or equipment to stop the slaughter, he saved the lives he could but nearly lost his sanity.”

          Long after the Americans had cut and run.. the general and his troops that would not leave him stayed and fought to the Genoicide / ethnic cleansing that was going on.

          “After a 100-day reign of terror, some 800,000 Rwandan civilians were dead, most killed by their machete-wielding neighbors. Dallaire had sounded the alarm. He’d begged. He’d bellowed. He’d even disobeyed orders. “l was ordered to withdraw…by [then-U.N. Sec. Gen. Boutros] Boutros Ghali about seven, eight days into it. .. and I said to him, ‘I can’t, I’ve got thousands’ -by then we had over 20,000 people-’in areas under our control,”‘ Dallaire said in a recent interview with Amnesty Now. The general’s hands, always moving, rose beside his face as if to block the memories. “The situation was going to shit….And, I said, ‘No, I can’t leave.”‘

          A REAL fucking hero !

          NOT one that sneaks into Pakistan illegally kills families in their sleep !

  • http://profiles.google.com/orfetheo Orfeas Theofanis

    ” In a new filing the U.S. asks the court to deny Megaupload’s request for a hearing on the matter.”

    It’s like a little kid who broke a toy, blames someone else, and tells his mom “He did it but don’t ask him ok? Don’t hear him!”

    • Fantastic

      Pretty much sums up the attitude of the Government and Hollywood, they cannot control the internet so they’d rather break it then let anyone else play.

  • Jason M Tufts

    I live in the USA, and even I think this case is bull shit.. I really do hope he win’s so all of that money they used to bride everyone goes to waste.

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      “Even I?”

      Honestly, any decent man or woman seeing their government’s judicial arm act like a sleazy con man trying to weasel himself out of a fraud charge would, in my opinion, be the first to say “Not In My Name!”

  • iMeZiv0x

    Lemme get this straight. Neil McBride is filing for a denial for a hearing because the evidence is ‘baseless and unfounding’? How does that work? That doesn’t even make sense! Its baseless and unfounding because “we said so”? Get a grip. Please, if you are going to debate an argument, atleast make it clausible.

    • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

      “Don’t listen to him, he’s stupid and lying. Just trust me, you don’t need to hear him out.”

      Oh yeah. totally makes sense.

    • Anyone

      it worked in the TPB case when the supreme court hearing was denied

  • jrau18

    “Megaupload’s Planted Evidence Allegations are Baseless, U.S. Says”

    Duh. They’re not going to admit it.

    • dondilly

      Again, trying to mislead the court. I don’t think the mega filing claimed the feds planted the evidence. The uploads were by a then john Doe uploader whose identity the feds were seeking.

      Also, it was never claimed by KDC that the feds asked about 39 files. Though the numbers are unclear, info on further files. 39, including those requested were identified by mega as uploaded by the same john doe(s). The very fact kdc volunteered evidence shows his willingness to cooperate.

    • MadAsASnake

      DOJ’s allegations against KDC appear to be baseless, KDC says. So far, KDC has won every encounter in front of a judge – does not look like that is going to change … so DOJ keeps it away from a judge. Sounds more and more like the pr0n extortion scams all the time.

  • dondilly

    As the original search warrants were under seal, what this joker is implying is that mega was f*©ked either way. Had they of removed the all the files thus tipping off the uploader (if not destroying evidence) they would of charged KDC with either contempt of court or what is refered to in uk law as perverting the course of justice. Most importantly, the FBI knew they were going through an intermediary which in itself is a failing of the fbi. As KDC was obviously willing to cooperate with them, the matter of jurisdiction were they to seek his direct cooperation it moot.

    This absurd claim by the DOJ is either clutching at straws or an admition that the judge has been duely bribed.

    Where the wheels really come off is that the criminal case has to be based on KDCs fore knowledge of specific piracy before. The problem for the FBI here is that still hinges on those first warrants. Even if the judge has been got at, for the case to stand, the emails between kdc and Carpathia show he was doing as instructed by the ISP if not the feds directly. The first warrants targetted Carpathia who are not going to lie or give KDC false instructions as impeding the case would make them liable to charges

    A right minded judge should see through this smokescreen in no time .

    • Guest

      Right minded judge? In the US? Are you mad?

    • Anon

      lets hope the judges and whatnot read torrentfreak, we should start sending them the addresse

  • icec0ld

    Their claim is “our warrants didn’t mention the communication or the claims made, therefore it didn’t happen.”.

    Pretty darn flimsy to say the only evidence they can use is the search warrant used, to prove this when proof is sitting right in front of them in another warrant.

  • Anon1

    “For instance, Megaupload alleges that the government ‘affirmatively [led]‘ Megaupload to retain certain files on its servers. Yet Megaupload does not cite a single communication between the government and Megaupload or a single instruction from any member of the government to Megaupload; there are none,”

    If this is indeed true then this case is not looking good for MU. Of course it wouldn’t be beyond the US Government to bury such evidence.

    • Guest

      Firstly, the government refused to deal with Megaupload directly instead they chose only to deal with Megaupload through Carpathia as a middle man.

      Secondly, Dotcom has stated that he sent emails to the government asking what to do with those files (if they could be deleted) and he knows that the government got those emails but the government did not respond to those emails. Now if Dotcom can produce these emails as evidence which he states to the government can he delete these files and can prove that the government got those emails then the government will have to explain why they did not respond telling to delete those files when asked if they could be deleted.

      It will be interesting what response Megaupload will file in response to this.

      • DocGerbil100

        Not to take sides with the USDoJ here, but we’ve already seen many other articles on TF about the valid service of warrants to MU, a non-US-based company.

        If they had trouble serving legally-valid seizure warrants, they would have presumably had the same trouble serving legally-valid evidence-preservation orders as well.

        Dealing with Carpathia would presumably have been the only legally-viable solution for them.

        [Edited to clarify slightly and add:] Just to be absolutely clear, I’m not taking the USDoJ’s side here at all (we all know how full of shit they’ve been so far), I’m solely answering the single point given under “firstly” by the person I’m replying to, because it contains a faulty and easily killed assumption.

        Faulty claims on our part gives the trolls more ammunition – I feel such errors should be avoided or corrected ASAP, as a general principle. :)

        • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

          Absolutely, makes sense. But to then follow up and say that because they never spoke to dotcom directly, they never transmitted this info at all? They’re mincing words, playing a semantics game; either that or full-out lying. Either way it’s pretty weak.

        • MadAsASnake

          Does not answer the question. It looks like the FBI asked and received co-operation. They may not have directly asked KDC not to remove the files, but it is easy to imply that. KDC asked what to do with them and got no answer. I think the FBI needs to explain exactly what they did here and why. The US statement neither claims KDC’s statements are incorrect nor clarifies the situation.

  • Its Called Sarcasm Fuckwit

    Well i for one think that if the government say they didn’t do it, then they can’t have. Anyone would think that they were just a bunch of corporate faggots taking bribes in one end and mafiaa cum shots in the other the way you lot go on. I think it’s about time someone stood up for the poor inoccent, incorruptable politicians here.

  • Gmail

    Megaupload cooperated with this request and handed over details on the uploaders.

    Sounds like your king and savior of the internet will rat you out to save his ass.

    • IHaveNoBalls

      “Sounds like your king and savior of the internet will rat you out to save his ass.”

      Hes not our savior dumbass but Megaupload was the best and the new “mega” could turn out to be great also.
      Plus hes fighting the FBI in court. So its deffinatley interesting to people what happens in the court case.
      I have previously defended him, that’s mainly because im waiting to see what happens reading the articles, meanwhile there’s people posting comments telling everyone that they should hate him, otherwise they are one of his sheep. I don’t really care what they think but im sick of reading those comments. Im not going to hate someone simply because im told too, i can make my own mind up…

      I don’t care hes rich, don’t care that hes fat, don’t care that he seems crazy. Megaupload was cool, thats all i care about

      • Gmail

        And yet you call me the dumbass…

        • Guest

          You are a dumbass. Just shut up.

    • icec0ld

      Enemy of my enemy is my friend.

      The net and Kim Dotcom have embraced the sentiment. It’s unlikely Kim Dotcom will ever cooperate with US authorities ever again.

      • Gmail

        Just wait and see, then come back and tell me when you lose your files again…

        • icec0ld

          Not happening.

          From a technical standpoint it will be nearly impossible to seize Mega the same way they seized Megaupload.

          From a legal standpoint, how would the US get the NZ authorities to cooperate when it is currently under such scrutiny? Short answer is they wouldn’t and the failing extradition attempt and the shaming of NZ authorities will stay their hand for a long time. No one is going to put their neck and job on the line for the US in NZ ever again.

    • Guest

      “Megaupload cooperated with this request and handed over details on the uploaders.”

      No request is even being made to Megaupload, you illiterate fuck.

      Christ, where does the MAFIAA get these genius shills from? An AOL chatroom circa 1995?

      • Gmail

        Was said in the article you fool. Go actually read it. Yahoo fight room 1999 actually.

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      “Sounds like your king and savior of the internet will rat you out to save his ass.”

      Hearing you pro-copyright guys going on, everyone running a legitimate internet business seems to be “king and savior”.

      Will you people stop proclaiming leaders for us every time someone does something good for the internet?

      Oh, wait. Pro-copyright maximalists are unable to think a lot of people will pull in one direction without clear and present leadership. Of course.

  • frozar

    Welcome to how prosecutors operate in the US. They get prestige by convicting all their cases. It doesn’t matter if the defendant is guilty or not. They all want to be the guy every lawyer is afraid of. It’s all power to them.

    • liars-and-thieves

      A lawyer is a professional liar, and that’s a cold, hard fact.

      • Liam Jh

        A lawyer is a professional hypocrite, they believe whatever the money tells em too.

      • xpmule

        I was being interviewed by a lawyer when i as charged with assault with a weapon causing bodily harm many years ago and i started to tell my story and he cut me off pretty quick to remind me clearly that i can say ANYTHING i want and how true it is doesn’t matter.. I promptly changed my story right there on the spot and decided also i rather than pleading guilty like i planned (because i was) that i would plead NOT guilty and just say it was an accident and i slipped.
        It worked too i got found not guilty.. since i was a minor the judge seemed really mad that i was brought up to adult court and bitched out the prosecutor for bring a school yard brawl to his court.

        They just do their job.. its not evil its just what they have to do.. win cases.

  • Guest

    Well, how the court decides will depend on whether the judge has been sufficiently paid off, but the DOJ was “all in” from the moment helicopters landed at Kim’s front door.

    What did you expect the DOJ to respond with? “Sorry, you’re right, we were full of $#^% from the beginning. We’ll call off the case, deposit about a billion dollars in Kim’s account for his troubles, then go home and hang ourselves out of shame.” ??

    No such luck; the DOJ isn’t that decent. At this rate, if Kim does win, their next step will probably be to get revenge by sending a black ops team to kill him and make it look like an tragic accident.

  • commenter8

    White House petition to shorten the term of all copyrights to 10 years:

    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/shorten-excessive-copyright-terms/XMc72zjc

    • Guest

      10 years? Fuck that. Try 1 year. Tops.

      • The Guy

        ^ I second that.

  • JustPayYourDamnedTeaTax

    “Megaupload’s allegations are baseless, as even a cursory review of Megaupload’s pleading and the search warrant materials at issue disproves the allegation that the government misled the court as part of a conspiracy to entrap Megaupload,” MacBride writes.

    To be honest, even a cursory review of the public record over this case proves that the government has misled the courts of two separate countries and continues to lie about it. Only an idiot would think otherwise (or believe they could convince anyone to that end).

    • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

      +1 just for the handle. Hail Brittania, and all that.

    • MadAsASnake

      Not that a cursory review is possible given how much of that material is still under seal. The argument that KDC cannot know the allegations have been falsified because they won’t tell him what they are is hardly a compelling argument.

  • VPN

    CactusVPN just gave me a free 1-year VPN account.
    Funny. I really didn’t need it. I guess they like me.

    I’ve just been in dialogue with them about how I ‘hacked’ their free 24-hr account system (and I do like their business model and speed). I liked the fact that they emailed me back. They wanted to know how I did it and were cool once I explained. Always great to make new friends on this small planet on which we dwell.

    So anyway … Anyone want to kick the shit outta some CactusVPN connections?
    I mean some HARD testing? Maybe I can get TF folks some1-week free trials? Anybody like this idea?

    My thing is running VPN cascades. I connect to VPNReactor first and then CactusVPN. I use true free anonymous accounts for both. Very difficult to track back to my real IP. I got a pet project I’m working on.

    Leave a comment if you think I should post more info.
    Thanks.

    • commenter8

      Post more info please!

      • VPN

        GOSH! That was fast. OK Let me compose myself. BRB

    • VPN

      Well I was thinking maybe Cactus gives out 50 free 1-week trials here on TF.
      I’ll email them and say PLEASE. But it needs to be anonymous.

      I generally prefer fake email accounts like spamavert and/or mailnesia.
      But for testing (obtain un/pw) using your real email is OK I guess.
      I like fake emails myself.

      How do we go about this. I am sure Cactus will do 50 free 1-week trials (full service trials). Think about it and post suggestions.

      Cool.

      • VPN

        Just had a great idea … Promo Code : TorrentFreak

        I emailed my evil plan to Cactus (I’m in NY they are in Moldova)
        Give it a little time. Maybe visit their blog. Their blog is naked.
        No posts. Very sad. They use DisQus just like TF.
        Recent blog about VPNs and Firewalls.

        Post anonymously.
        Post “Promo Code : TorrentFreak”

        Post a shitload of times.
        Let’s fuck with them (in a happy friendly way).
        I like that.

  • Andrew me

    What surprises me here is how amateur these arguments are from the DOJ, i mean they have some good lawyers right, surely they could find a valid reason or put forward a better excuse for doing what they did , rather than denying it, which has already been proven to be a lie. I am no fantastic intellect but seriously where has all the intelligence gone with regard to the DOJ, it seem like they cannot come up with one bright idea to even attempt to fix this mess. If they are being incompetent because they want more money form the entertainment industry to put there top man on it, i would not be surprised, but this latest round of comments by the DOJ just makes them look like a bunch of school kids trying to win a fight that they started with no backup/ They are acting like kids seriously and if this continues Kim is going to be a very very rich man in a few months/years.
    And not only that but copyright laws might just have to be changed to allow torrenting to take place, and people to openly share any files they want to…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….ok the last two lines are wishful thinking but it thought i might as well stick them in.

    • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

      It reminds me very much of the whole Dajaz1 thing, when the RIAA was feeding the government a load of bullshit and when asked to back it up, they just kind of trailed off, leaving the DOJ holding the bag. Looks like a repeat of the same old thing.

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      “What surprises me here is how amateur these arguments are from the DOJ…”

      This doesn’t surprise me. Let’s face it, the people who actually know how the law is supposed to work in the DoJ have obviously have had nothing to do with this case – up to the point where they were asked for their opinion and most likely went “You did WHAT?! Based on…this?”.

      Which is why everything heard from the DoJ right now is stone-faced silence and denial.

  • Guessing

    Ok. If you are a DEM you blame B. If you are a REP you blame O. The true is that they are both puppets of the corporate globalists who want to do away with our republic. For now our country is in danger my fellow citizen and it is time to joint forces and save our republic and our constitution. We can resume our argument later once we are done.

  • BuddhaFacePalmed

    “True patriotism hates injustice in its own lands more than anywhere else”
    - Clarence Darrow -

  • djnforce9

    Of course the US is going to make these kinds of claims like “this is baseless”. They know that if a hearing does take place and this matter is pursued, the injustice and perhaps even some corruption will be exposed. I hope Kim Dotcom gets that hearing.

    • Vincent Giannell

      More likely they’re just mad because Dotcom thinks they’re criminals.

      • dondilly

        Yupp and a point being fudged by the DOJ is that while true, the merits of the case against KDC should be limited to the criminal case hearing. The hearing being requested by KDC is not about the merits of the case or the legality of KDCs conduct, it is about the legality of the FBIs actions. If they are shown to be acting legally, their case stands though kdc is still entitled to full disclosure.
        On their smoke and mirrors regarding jurisdiction and a criminal case against kdc. The servers were leased by megaupload. While the company is listed on the indictment, it is outside US jurisdiction as shown by the failure to serve the company the indictment.
        It is not kdc trying to intervene in the user data hearing, it is megaupload who is not subject to a criminal case as it is outside the court’s jurisdiction. As for jurisdiction, the pertinent point is that the FBI falls within the jurisdiction of the court, not megaupload..

  • icec0ld

    Sorry, but when your country is actively bossing around and invading other countries as well as disregarding international law numerous times in pursuit of self interest and legal action on behalf of the Hollywood interest groups, then your country is going to get flack. Wanna change it? You’re in a better position to change it than anyone else.

    I have no problem that you’ve (USA) invented wonderful technologies.

    I have a problem with the idea you seem to think the US “saved” us from people who don’t speak English. Ironic you call us xenophobic..

  • Guest

    Obama shouldn’t be singled out because that lets so many other motherfuckers off the hook.

    Blaming one figurehead criminal while overlooking all the other criminals is how the crime problem never gets solved.

    • MadAsASnake

      I think MacBride and Biden need some serious probing

  • Guest

    Please note, foreigners: not all Americans are as tragically ignorant about world history as Windlasher.

  • Vincent Giannell

    I have a feeling the court will go along with the hearing despite the government’s claim.

  • Anyone

    the problem is he was the lesser evil in both elections

  • bobmail

    “If the court sides with Megaupload and eventually rules that the warrants are declared unlawful, Kim Dotcom and his fellow defendants will be in a much better position to win the case.”

    And if the court rules against them (which is very likely, considering the nature of the request and source of information), it is very much more likely that they are incredibly fucked.

    Kim’s legal team appear to be trying to weasel out of facing up to reality. The court isn’t likely to be impressed with this poorly timed attempt to slow the process.

    • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

      Your in depth knowledge of US Law is absolutely stunning. May I please retain you for future legal advice? That’s phenomenal.

    • icec0ld

      Based on what?

      Their only argument is that the evidence being used to ask for the dismissal of the case is present not in the warrant served to Megaupload but instead in another warrant where Megaupload has been the “holder” of the copyrighted flies.

      Besides, unlike the US, Kim Dotcom is likely to able to produce the email communications that concern this case.

      Not that he will even be extradited in the first place. The trial in NZ is in perpetual stall as the US refuses to comply with court orders to disclose evidence required by NZ law for a fair trial.

      • Anyone

        you can’t disclose evidence that doesn’t exist ;)

        • Scary_Devil_Monastery

          On the contrary. There is ample imaginary evidence that Dotcom enabled the pilfering of imaginary property.

          And bobmail appears to be the one doing the imagining, in this case.

          The problem is that the DoJ appears to have taken such imaginary evidence at face value and now appears dumbstruck because a closer inspection revealed it not to actually be real.

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      “Kim’s legal team appear to be trying to weasel out of facing up to reality. The court isn’t likely to be impressed with this poorly timed attempt to slow the process.”

      You mean as in the accused demands to see the evidence laid against him, the prosecutor refuses to show said evidence…

      And you claim Dotcom’s team doesn’t have a point?

      You must be on something, because you surely are not on to something there…

    • Guest

      You’re just mad you couldn’t get away with the SWAT team, Baghdad Bobmail.

    • http://nejtillpirater.wordpress.com/ Nejtillpirater

      This slowing down of the legal process is totally unacceptable. Look what happened in the TPB case! The damages causes by the obstruction and inability to prioritize legal cases related to Internet criminality are enormous.

      • MadAsASnake

        Agreed. The sooner this thing plays out, the sooner McBride and Biden see the inside of a prison cell.

      • Christopher Kidwell

        Missing once again, Nej, that non-paid copyright infringement is not a criminal offense, it is a civil offense and unless the companies can prove that Dotcom knew that infringing stuff was in the files and allowed them to stay up WITHOUT DIRECTION FROM THE COPS TO LET THEM STAY UP….. there is no criminality here.

        • Guest

          I agree with you what you state.

          I would like to state that in an earlier article here on TorrentFreak Dotcom did state that he did send emails to the Government through Carpathia (and he knows that the Government got those emails) asking what to do with those files but the Government did not give any reply whatsoever.

          If what Dotcom says is true and he can produce these emails as evidence and can prove that the Government got those emails then the Government will have to explain why they did not give a response to those emails. If the Government wanted these files deleted then no doubt they would have him to delete those files.

          If Dotcom were to produce these emails then I wonder what the DOJ will have to say to get out of not replying to these emails.

        • MadAsASnake

          @Guest

          I think we’ll get no response as to why KDC got no response

  • http://gene-poole.tumblr.com Gene Poole

    Actually, the internet started as a joint effort between the UK and the US. Just saying.

    Besides that, if one’s past merits count to balance against one’s current transgressions, then why did the DoJ drive Aaron Swartz to suicide, exactly?

    Again, just pointing it out.

  • Sdfsfsdfs

    That hearing will never take place mark my words.
    The U.S. Gov have too much to loose for it to happen, so it will be denied.

  • DanielM

    Believe the US gov or kim dotcom… let me think

    the us gov started 2 illegal wars, it lied to everyone about WMD’s its taken down websites without a trial (US COnstituion?) who would you trust? for me certainly its dotcom.

    • MadAsASnake

      The US would need to show a pattern of behaviour indicitive of intent… all they can find are 39 files (out of how many petabytes) and even those the FBI indicated shouldn’t be touched. It is difficult to know how anyone would react under those circumstances – let alone draw judgement on intent. If the banks had been treated this way, there would be none left.

  • Rudick

    So you are saying — “I saved your ass and now it(your ass) belong to me ?”

    • Scary_Devil_Monastery

      I believe that is exactly what he is saying – which of course begs the question what exactly we were “saved” from.

  • TerribleTony

    USG: We’re the good guys!
    Mega: Face in court, then.
    USG: We don’t put criminals on trial here, this is the USA! USA! USA!

  • Scary_Devil_Monastery

    If Bush was in office, he would be standing on the White house lawn before a sign saying “MISSION ACCOMPLISHED” while a band was playing the star-spangled banner in the background.

    While everyone and their mother was looking at evidence all to the contrary.

    Obama is arguably a lot better than GWB. Biden, however, calls the shots on this one, and he’s every bit as bad as Cheney – especially since he looks harmless in comparison.

  • KDC Warrior

    What if he deleted all 39 files? Would that be tampering with evidence and would they indict him on that? Confusing :)

  • Anonymous

    ‘If the court sides with Megaupload and eventually rules that the warrants are declared unlawful, Kim Dotcom and his fellow defendants will be in a much better position to win the case.’

    so we know which way the court is going to rule, dont we? if it sides with Mega, it will just mean an endless number of appeals. if it sides with the DoJ, they will then try to prevent any appeals. typical one-sided justice that the USA is now known for. whatever happens, Kim’s finances are still locked away and MegaUpload is still defunct. that was the whole intention and that has been achieved. what wasn’t expected was the ‘Dotcom comeback’. that has really pissed the DoJ and the US entertainment industries off, particularly with the NZ courts siding with Mega atm. more than anything, this escapade has shown that there is now no such thing as justice. as with almost everything, it’s money that rules, even when it comes to the courts. what a society we have allowed to be born and take over the planet! no wonder the ‘haves’ wanted the war against Fascism! they didn’t want it to replace Corporatism!!

    • MadAsASnake

      The NZ courts are not siding with DotCom, and the US ones shouldn’t either. The courts should be as neutral as possible, basing decisions on law and fact. Hollywood isn’tuse to dealing with those issues other than as subjects for movies… can’t imagine the DOJ’s excuse.

  • Guest

    no new war usa is so bored atm.

  • Liam Jh

    Show some more ignorance towards your own countries history why don’t you.

  • Ivi

    Kim should ask EU/Germany parlamanet, to try to force USA to speed up the whole thing. Or better ask for the evidence/warrants, if they based on USA law should be open.

    • Liam Jh

      Don’t know what good the EU/Germany can do in this one :))

  • chris_p_bacon(R.O.L.L)

    this is what cracks me up about American law. bits of paper bouncing endlessly back and forth for years on end until the one with the empty wallet gives in. money money, that’s all this is, it is not about true justice at all. no good is going to happen from here on with this one, unless you own a shop that sell those O.J.Simpson(guilty as fuck if you ask me) shoes, because all those fat lawyers need serious support in the feet department and only the best will do, wankers, no no, that’s too good, can’t think of a word right now, gfriggisnegitts buckers

  • http://twitter.com/MidoThePirate Ahmed Omar

    Shut the fu*k up …MOFOS !!! …Won’t you stop lying ?

  • http://twitter.com/MidoThePirate Ahmed Omar

    Whores

    • Liam Jh

      Your passion is commendable, but where is I aimed?

  • dondilly

    If by saving our ass, you are refering to ww1 and 2, contrary to the public history of why the US intervened in both wars.

    WW1, while the sinking of a passenger liner with many US citizens on board was used to gain public support for entry. The US was doing nicely out of war in europe. While german shipping was blockaded by the brits, the US was getting fat supplying the brits and french especially as there had been a long term stalemate. The problem the US had to overcome was that with revolution in russia the germans could transfer troops from the eastern to western front and overrun the brits and french and the victor never honors the losers war debts. In truth, US soldiers lost their lives in WW1 not to save europe but to save US banks. Talk about history repeating.

    WW2 was the same in that germany was blockaded though it had built up its sub fleet. To the US the fact a large portion of the goods sold never reached its destination was an added bonus as it inflated orders. Britain had been written off by the usa who knew brit colonies in the pacific rim would be up for grabs. What they didnt bargain for was US mishanding of sanctions against japan would blow up in their faces.

    Dont think the USA does anything unless there is something in it for them. Contrary to american claims, you cant export democracy at the point of a gun.

  • Guest

    “”The U.S. further argues that the part about the 39 infringing files was not even mentioned in the search warrant that was executed at Megaupload’s hosting company.

    “Similarly unfounded is the allegation by Megaupload that the government ‘planted Megaupload’s alleged knowledge of infringing files’ and misled the Court. Megaupload claims that the government inserted a misleading ‘snippet’ into ‘each relevant affidavit,’ and that the ‘snippet’ misinformed the Court by highlighting Megaupload’s failure to remove content deemed infringing in the June 24, 2010 warrant.”

    “To the contrary, no such ‘snippet’ appears anywhere in the primary search warrant at issue in Mr. Goodwin’s motion. That warrant, the search warrant executed at Carpathia Hosting in January 2012 does not even mention the June 24, 2010 search warrant,” MacBride writes.”"

    If I were Megaupload I will file a response that includes along the lines of that if the Government stands by with its statement/affidavits that they did not mention anywhere regarding the 39 infringing files that they now claim in there recent response that they did not mention in their affidavits etc. then they will have NO objection with our request to the court for ALL warrants etc. with regards to the Megaupload case to be unsealed.

    You can sure bet that if Megaupload puts a request to the court for the unsealing of ALL warrants etc. with regards to the Megaupload case that the DOJ will do everything to object to the unsealing of another sealed warrant.

    The DOJ are fully aware that the extradition may never happen and they are doing everything possible and underhanded if needs be to prevent the case in the US from being dropped.

    • Guest

      Further to my comment above

      In the Governments warrant application dated 13 January 2012 see here http://www.scribd.com/doc/113672835/1-12-SW-34-Redacted On page 12 it is written: “”17. On or about June 24, 2010, members of the Mega Conspiracy were informed, pusuant to a criminal search warrant from the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia, that thirty-nine infringing copies of copyrighted motion pictures were present on their leased servers at Carpathia Hosting, a hosting company headquarted in the Eastern District of Virginia. A member of the Mega Conspiracy informed several of his co-conspirators at that time that he located the named files using internal searches of the Mega Conspiracy’s systems. As of November 18 2011, thirty-six of the thirty-nine infringing copies of copyrighted motion pictures were still being stored on servers controlled by the Mega Conspiracy.”"

      The Government clearly mentions that the 39 infringing files and also mentions the 24 June 2010 warrant. So it seems to appear that Neil Mcbride is lying with stating. “”“To the contrary, no such ‘snippet’ appears anywhere in the primary search warrant at issue in Mr. Goodwin’s motion. That warrant, the search warrant executed at Carpathia Hosting in January 2012 does not even mention the June 24, 2010 search warrant,””

      • MadAsASnake

        And if the warrant did not mention any infringing files, what on was the basis for it?

        • Guest

          If the warrant that Neil McBride is referring to did not mention the 39 infringing files and June 24 2010 search warrant then what he was stating would be truth in what he is stating but the warrant that he refers too actually DOES mention both the 39 infringing files and June 24 2010 search warrant so Neil McBride has told an outright lie in what he states.

        • MadAsASnake

          @Guest

          I agree. Not only is it a lie, but if true, there would be no case at all. Not only is it an obvious lie, it is either staggeringly stupid, or very brazen.

  • xpmule

    no

    People tend to get mad about what happens and not just blindly attack political parties for the sake of it. biased or not it boils down to being held accountable for your actions (if your the president) and was Bush a good president ? is Obama worse ? Did they stay in office the same amount of time ? Obama started his 2nd term so give it time lol

    your spouting nonsense..

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  • Guest

    I thought you are american…

  • markh

    I disagree americans are nice people, but their government is weird

  • mafiaastompinninjabunnies

    Being American would be all the more reason to say that.

  • Theo Ffensivatheist

    Do you agree with EVERYTHING your Gov’ does? If so, that makes you a sheep. Why bother even turning up to vote if whoever gets in is always right?

  • Me

    I don’t believe anything my government says. NOTHING. I don’t vote because it’s all a farce to make people think they’re in charge. America is on the verge of civil war and I want nothing to to to with it anymore. I love my country, ie the land, but the government and corporations have perverted it beyond help.

  • Me

    Wow, I can’t type today.

    “America is on the verge of civil war and I want nothing to do with it anymore.”

    I don’t know how I wrote “to to to”. Sorry about that yinz.

  • DadD

    “Guest
    I thought you are american…”

    I don’t think it’s the Anon that you thought.

  • xpmule

    good and bad people everywhere…

    when people say stuff like this guy did i really doubt they mean EVERY single person in the country.. i just always assume and *hope that they mean the bad politicians and the bad people that support and defend them.

    I am critical of the USA but I understand a lot of the people there are stuck in a situation with a Govt. doing what ever it wants.. like my country (Canada) or any other..

    I seen protests on the news with Iraq was going to be invaded etc from Americans, so obviously people have opinions on this. Its worth pointing out i have traveled across the states and grew up watching American channels on TV which is common.. So Canadians know a whole lot more about you guys than you do about us i bet. I would usually watch American news shows at 5pm because they were more interesting than the my local Canadian news lol

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