Mininova Traffic Plummets After Going ‘Legal’
Written by Ernesto on December 05, 2009Roughly a week ago, Mininova was still the largest torrent site on the Internet, but this quickly changed after the site’s founders removed of millions of torrents to avoid having to pay millions of dollars in fines. In the days that followed, traffic to the site dropped 66%, while the number of daily downloads are less than 4% of what they used to be.
After nearly five years of loyal service, Mininova deleted over a million torrent files when it partly shut down its website a week ago. What remains are a few thousand torrents that were uploaded though its content distribution platform, which only lists uploads by approved users.
Mininova was forced to take such a drastic measure following a negative verdict in their court battle with the local anti-piracy outfit BREIN this summer. The torrent indexer was told by the court to remove all infringing torrent files from its index. This was technically unfeasible according to the Mininova team, who were left with no other choice than to remove all torrent files uploaded by regular users.
This move resulted in the deletion of more than a million torrents, many of which were not infringing any copyrights at all. As expected, the consequences of this decision for Mininova’s traffic, as well as the number of searches and downloads on the site, are disastrous.
In just a few days Mininova’s traffic plummeted by 66%, from well over 5 million visits the day before the torrents were removed, to just 1.8 million yesterday. If the downward trend continues at this rate, the site will have less than a million visits a day a week from now, throwing it out of the top 10 most visited torrent sites that it led for two years in a row.
Mininova’s visits per day
Even more striking perhaps is the drop in downloads and searches. As can be seen from the graph below, the number of downloads dropped from over 10 million a day to just 371,424. The number of searches went down from 10 to 3 million, a less steep drop than the downloads, probably indicating that not everyone is aware of the reduced number of torrents on the site.
Downloads and searches on Mininova
So what’s next?
There is no doubt that Dutch anti-piracy outfit BREIN will be proud of their accomplishment, but aside from ruining Mininova’s business it will not have a significant impact on the overall volume of BitTorrent traffic. As always, new sites emerge by the dozens as old ones are shut down and users quickly adapt to the new situation.
A network engineer at a major Aussie ISP has confirmed that Mininova’s partial shutdown has had no noticeable effect on traffic volumes. “I didn’t notice any reduction in [torrent] traffic when The Pirate Bay went down. It’s hard to see how there’d be any significant change from Mininova’s withdrawal.”
That said, the ‘end’ of Mininova does leave a scar behind. For years most torrent indexers heavily relied on torrents that were uploaded to Mininova. With over a million user-uploaded torrents, the site was without a doubt the main torrent provider on the Internet. Although most of the torrents are still mirrored on other sites, Mininova’s role as content provider has to be taken over by others.
Previously: Thunder Blasts uTorrent’s Market Share Away
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166 Responses
first xD
Anybody surprised ? I don’t think so.
All people do is switch to other sites. Mininova was a bit lame anyway.
This was supposed to happen.
removed of millions of torrents
shouldn’t that be “removed millions of torrents”
@5 no, because it’s a fact, not a quote…
Damn
Whelp, go build up mononova. Looks like it might be a switcheroo to me. Just sayin.
@8 Monova = CRAP!
I like vertor.com, and kickasstorrents.com
mononova sucks. Its a rip off of mininova and its loaded with spyware.
Use btjunkie or the pirate bay as an alternative.
I’d kill myself if I was one of the owners/founders, to have my traffic plummet like that. :(
forget about mininova – next project
http://h33t.com/userdetails.php?id=128558
just shows what people are after in a torrent.
i have noticed this site
http://www.mightynova.com/
Is there any link to mininova?
none of the sites that people are suggesting are any good compared to mininova. something new is needed.
Might as well shut down the whole site – it is pretty much useless now.
Just use Plentyoftorrents.com as a launch pad to search thru all the torrent sites.
Or Torrentz.com if you want everything searched for you.
http://www.mininova.biz kitties & http://www.monova.org
meow
Hells bells…that’s a shock.
I hope they didn’t plan on keeping the site going!
Have a nice death, Mininova.
Ernesto, how did you manage to get access to Mininova’s google analytics (screenshot at least)? :)
KickAssTorrens is a US Government funded website, they are tracking you and will begin prosecutions as early as next year. You’ve been warned.
Why do they go after Mininova, but not Google or Yahoo? It looks like the top torrent sites need to become global indexers (search engines) in order to be untouchable.
the best replacement i’ve found is http://btjunkie.org
“KickAssTorrens is a US Government funded website, they are tracking you and will begin prosecutions as early as next year. You’ve been warned.”
can anyone confirm this?
Sure 24, File it under the conspiracy theory that all torrent sites are ran by governments in-order to prosecute you for stealing.
KickAssTorrens is a US Government funded website, they are tracking you and will begin prosecutions as early as next year. You’ve been warned.
I emailed Ernesto last week asking him if he thought something was up with kickasstorrents he replied and assured me that he knows the admins running the site and they are using proxies and it’s not a honeypot Tyrant if you got more infomation nows the time to let us know
http://www.torrentz.com/
The google of torrents
@24 lol for thinking it could be real. of course not.
The question I am having is how they can remove “infringing” torrents without removing the non-infringing oen as well?
How can they be sure that all the infringing torrent has been removed?
Any way Bt no longer require centralized servers such as mininova.
The entertainment corporations of parasites are always late by a technology and are always fighing the war of yesterday taking defeat after defeat.
If you consider how many sites they bring down how much money they spent on corruption and legal stuff compared to what they achieved in turn of trying to stop people from sharing music and movies:
EPIC FAIL!
I share, He share, She Share We Share They share!
‘Mininova Traffic Plummets After Going ‘Legal’’
duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh
soon enough, torrenting will be like public health care, you wait a very long time to be tended to, and what you get is crappy service.
Tyrant: “KickAssTorrens is a US Government funded website”
Do we take your word for it or do you actually have evidence, references and/or links to support your claims?
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Registrant name is eastern-european and contact numbers are in Poland. The domain was first registered in 2004. [This can all be confirmed with a whois search.]
Network is Tiscali International Network. AS3257 (TINET-BACKBONE Tinet SpA Formerly Tiscali Intl Network BV Formerly Nacamar Data Communications, Germany) [1]
It seems they’re running “nginx” to conceal their actual server’s location (it’s useful for reverse proxy) but there are legitimate reasons (from a filesharer’s perspective) for them to do this. [2]
References:
(1) http://www.robtex.com/ip/77.67.80.130.html
(2) http://i2.kickasstorrents.com/
Looking forward to your response.
Yes but what really bother me (and others) is what about the innocent people they victimized to try to get through their evil corporate agenda?
I believe that they deserve the death penalty for that.
Best alternatives is probably TPB, KickassTorrents and Bitsnoop. However, KAT seems to be “overloaded” all the time and TPB seems a bit slow, generally, but except for that, they’re awesome alternatives to Mininova! But do not forget Mininova, there is still alot of great content on Mininova.
I didnt bother reading the artical but…
duh…
as long as I still get the message I cant use hulu or spotify in my country because of regional crap.. PLEASE give me an alternative because I am willing to pay, provided I can play it on my devices, i just want a subscribtion.. 50, 100, 200, if it gets me out of the %&^&^ commercials ill be willing to pay it. Yes I said 200, im willing to pay 200 (heck im paying more for data storage right now). to listen to the crap I want to hear and to watch the stuff I want to watch (btw love community, its really light and fun). cya
And now for a brief message to Tim Kuik/BREIN and the MAFIAA…
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Probably hundreds of thousands of dollars spent.
= Bad PR generated.
+ Near zero effect on filesharing.
Congratulations on profiting from a strategic failure Mr. Kuik. Even though the overall outcome of endeavours such as yours will always be a failure, at least you’ve capitalized on it to the detriment of artists and legitimate consumers alike. So good for you and your profit margins. Well done!
Your actions help remind us why we should NEVER fund the MAFIAA cartel’s operations by NOT supporting their artists… and instead go with indy artists and indy labels ONLY.
No point just use http://www.plentyoftorrents.com
It seems like, in light of the recent legal issues with The Pirate Bay, many other torrent sites are being proactive and going legal too. I couldn’t help but notice the “takedown request” option for most of the alternative torrent sites. Or atleast they are making it look like they abide by the law. Do you really need a notice by some big hollywood representative to know that movies like Pirate of the Caribean, Zombieland, Terminator salvation, star trek, etc are copyrighted? Also, what happens if they do respond within 24 hours? There are usually dozens of torrents for every copyrighted work, from my understanding of bittorrent, there is nothing stopping someone from uploading a new torrent. What happens then? Since torrentzap.com (for example)supposidly cares so much about the law, would they actually ban people for reuploading torrents for copyrighted material? Why do they have to be reminded what is copyrighted material? They claim they are in full complaince with intellectual property laws, so shouldn’t they just remove things that are obviously copyighted like movies, games, software, etc? Also, this puts the burdeon of proof on the people who own the work (no, contrary to what many people think aXXo doesn’t own any movies that people like him hand out). This is obviously unfair because until they find it and go through their little “takedown request” their work will continue to be stolen rampantly. If they really cared about the law, they would prevent their site from being used to distribute copyrighted work in the first place.
But that would defeat their purpose as a site, would it not? Most of their users (as with any torrent site) are not people who are exactly concerned with copyright laws and are only looking to get whatever their heart desires. If torrent sites were truly in compliance with DMCA and intellectual property laws, they would implement filteres that prevent their site from being used to distrobute illegal torrents. In doing so, they would cease to have a purpose and would lose most of their users. This is mininova has proven and why no other torrent site will willingly comply with copyright laws. All they care about is popularity and their popularity comes from neglecting the law. They will do whatever it takes to retain their popularity.
a) Didn’t a quote appear stating the Mininova site owners had “lost interest” in the project.
b) Making $millions off piracy isn’t exactly a legal business model is it, so BRIEN didn’t stop a legitimate business. If point a@) is correct.
C) It all shows the lie that is “legal torrents” “not all pirates” “freeloader” etc etc arguments placed on here regularly and the vitriol that spews forth if you dare disagree. ie se above “death penalty” nonesense quote above
d)isoHunt’s alternative approach? Will this win through or go the way of Mininova?
I guess this makes the real pirates happy.
Stuff mininova for not standing up for themselves.
There were many options for them.
Ultranova, teranova, giganova, micronova, Millinova, nanonova, piconova…don’t worry folks there are plenty of numerical/mass combinations that torrent/magnet search engine names can use next. xD
Keep up the faith. Remember that sharing is caring and there will always be free content that will always be there to share!!!!
@40
Torrent sites arent doing anything illegal. Their users might be but not them.
What did they expect? I mean did they ACTUALLY think they were going to get the same amount of traffic? lmao.. IMO the site operators should save their money and shutdown. Even if they DID come back respected uploaders like myself wouldn’t come back.. Why would we? just for them to cower down again and our posts get deleted.. I have better things to do.. Remember people as shocking as it may seem there ARE other torrent sites out there.. It’s not the end of the world
KloWn
Man mininova….sucks the only real decent public sites left are Demonoid but that’s down…and Extratorrent, Kickass, but there UI/webpage designs suck. As do there popular torrent algorithims
Mini Nova did an ingenious thing which no one seems to notice. Do a search for a torrent there, and it suggests to use google.com. That’s their way of getting back at BREIN.
“All they care about is popularity and their popularity comes from neglecting the law. They will do whatever it takes to retain their popularity.”
I seriously doubt that! They care more about the video viewing populace then the media guys do!
These guys aren’t buying laws to enforce on 360,000,000 people + in North America!
Neglecting a law that shouldn’t BE law. It’s a tough one though, to change said laws we’d prob need political parties.
I’ll throw my vote Pirate Party until a full on Open Source party forces compliance on the bribes going into congress by making ALL votes on policy and RESPECTED law PUBLIC.
I mean, making trade agreements in secret away from public eyes? Bad mojo media guys.
I bought http://www.opensourceg.com in tribute to all the awesomeness Linux has done for the pc world. Great example is Ubuntu Linux doing everything Windows XP does (and more). Legit free, not pirate free!
Well I was hoping one day that Open Source Government will be adopted as “It sure as hell worked for Linux”.
Love to see the public voting DAILY instead of having their vote (if counted at all) stolen 3 days after elections w/o public voice for another 4-5 years. Lots of evil can be done, damage to civil rights, etc, etc in that time.
Sure would be nice to have voting every day like checking e-mail. Dump these horse and bugger laws being passed w/o the public’s knowledge OR permission/approval.
Compare OUR votes vs the politician votes and we’ll have some REAL progress.
It’s always come down to laws. Forcing compliance on the entire population is a LOT harder then just changing stupid laws.
If I pay 1200 bucks/year in ISP costs I expect 1200 movies at LEAST in service for accessing the Internet. Pirate? Ya right. Copywrong laws won’t last forever.
Soon as someone builds it I’ll TOTALLY link to it! Closest thing I found online to OSG is in the UK:
http://www.mysociety.org/
Nice way to fix roads and stuff but nothing (yet) on daily voting or REAL action by the muted populace.
RIP Mininova, you’ll go up on http://www.opensourceg.com ‘s hall of fame. As for all those corps hiding behind RIAA/MPAA, well they should be listed as hall of shamers to know which labels are sueing their customers.
Mininova was one of the best. It’s alright they went the way Napster did. There’s money to be made after all!
As for making watching tv shows online illegal instead of catching the ODD one on the 60 channels of shit to choose from in cable tv land…well that’s just BS. 1200 bucks is 1200 bucks.
Thanks for the article Torrent Freak. Regular news on CBC doesn’t show this kinda stuff (or allow anon comments, rock ON!)
I only use Google to find torrents. It’s an ingenious torrent search engine. xD
Huh, Did they think that traffic was going to INCREASE???
@46 Dec 05, 2009 at 23:58 by Jerry
Oops. Wrong copy and paste. Sorry. ;)
I only use Google to find torrents. It’s an ingenious torrent search engine. xD
LOL thats what them shit bag sell out mother fukers get..Death to the sell out turn coats…good bye sell outs..
I only used Mininova in a few rare instances.
Any shutdown is sad, but this isn’t one I’ll be feeling.
If anything, at least a new site will make it into the top 10 lists.
Whatcha all using public trackers for?
I still don’t understand why they couldn’t copy TPB and use magnet links.. They would have complied with the court order!
DUH!
A one fall many shall rise take a moment of silence to remember the fallen and there grand contribution to the new age.
isnt http://www.toorgle.com/ the google of torrents?
Less than a million, multiply that with small ad revenues, and that’s still more than most of y’all make here.
There not going to see any change in ip traffic as we are so well informed by torrentfreak.com. So we can brace for the impact of make the necessary adjustments
i dont know why torrentfreak removed http://www.alivetorrents.com from Mininova Alternative List its clean site and very fast loading.
I never visited Mininova anyway. No change for me.
Heya #39 good ol’ mr styles!
“truly in compliance with DMCA and intellectual property laws, they would implement filteres that prevent their site from being used to distrobute illegal torrents”
– Hmm, nice typo’s, but anyway, Mininova did exactly that. They attempted various filters, all failed, basically because anyone with half a brain can type f-u-c-k instead of fuck. Same goes for movies, easily read, impossible to filter. And ultimately, these sites are “automatic” – no person is monitoring EVERYTHING on them 24 hours a day – people run them as a hobby, and even if they wern’t no one has the time to sift through hundreds of thousands of new torrents to see if they infringe, the only option would to be to close the site – but then what about the legal content? what about bittorrent as a distribution platform? Dont i have the right to release content that i PERSONALLY have created?
“not people who are exactly concerned with copyright laws…All they care about is popularity and their popularity comes from neglecting the law”
Your exactly right here…but probably not for the reasons you think! Copyright laws are a joke, and are NOT more important than a persons freedom, even if that person uses his freedom to infringe copyright. In a nutshell – copyright laws as they are right now, should be scrapped – next to no one respects them or believes in them, fullstop.
Ive said before, piracy has existed for hundreds and hundreds of years – hell, isnt learning to speak a language an act of “copying”? Piracy/Filesharing isnt about to go away because a bunch of organisations decide they dont like it =)
I’m not surprised..!! btw guys, mininova was removing torrents before this copyright filter
1337x.org
I don’t not use mininova now because they’ve “gone legal”, I don’t use them because they deleted hundreds of LEGAL torrents.
In particular, live concert recordings they had no business deleting, plus countless torrents featuring original content.
how the fuck is this news…
mininothing was bullshit anyways…
So I didn’t even know about Mininova until I read about this article.
Btw, I’m buying Mininova too.
If you want to kill a website. Follow Mininova’s example.
Like 62 says, I’ve looked for a bunch of legal torrents I usually got from them because I’m lazy, and crap, I think there might have been one on my list they still had.
I don’t care if a torrent site is indexing 100% legit content. If remove the majority of the content, the traffic will plummet.
You RIAA/MPAA supporters trying to prove a point by saying otherwise, there’s no word for your lack of common sense.
This sucks.
I can no longer get porn for neo|douche.
To the people saying “DUH WHAT DID THEY EXPECT??” You are not intelligent people. This article didn’t say “surprisingly mininova traffic drops, I wonder why?” Torrentfreak is simply reporting the facts. The traffic dropped. This is easily understood and expected but that doesn’t make an article about it less valid.
To the people saying “MININOVA SOLD OUT WHAT LOSERS!!!” You are idiots. I would like to see what exactly you would do in their shoes. They were faced with vast fines. They carried the banner for 5 years. Now it is time to pass the baton.
The Pirate Bay is still the way to go :)
bigger sites only mean bigger targets for mafiaa and brein. as you know, big targets are easyer to hit. the only torrent source that will never fall is that small site called GOOGLE…
By the way, stats like this should NEVER be shown. Those RIAA, BREIN, etc fks should not see it.
The only problem the torrent sites will have if this keeps happening is lack of good domain names. Other then that, Piracy will still live on.
@72 maybe if they feel they are actually succeeding they will stop? Or just keep going on. Meh.
I happen to like the KAT layout. I can’t see how they profit, tho. I’m willing to use them as my meta-search for now, even tho I mostly get mirrored TPB torrents. If they don’t fix some of their technical issues quick, and get a bigger commenting/forum userbase, then I’ll be movin’ on.
Full disclosure: I am only trying a new search because I got booted from isoHunt. I could care less about mininova since I only ever got their users stuff mirrored anyway.
I ain’t no pirate btw, and neither were were these site mods. I never tried to claim an artists work as my own or make a profit from others work. These mods who do profit from listing and/or tracking services, aren’t directly profiting from copyrighted works either, no matter what all these lawyers & judges say.
File-sharing is fair use to the Nth degree. It makes literal word of mouth obsolete, and makes the entertainment marketplace more honestly reflect public opinion by empowering consumers. Copyright holders (not the artists they claim to represent) cant stand this because it makes advertising less effective. Less crap floats these days just because of a flashy ad campaign. These luddite industry types should stop fighting the inevitable and adapt to survive.
Anybody tried that anomos app that is based on the bittorrent protocol?
It even uses the hash info to make content available to the anonymous network that is not compatible with normal bittorrent client.
@68 : It actually does matter.. The demand for legal content is next to zero in comparison to illegal content.
of course there are less downloads, they dont have anything that people want
btjunkie is bein heavily monitered so no one use it please since my one friend got a letter with a warning from his isp n that utorrents being heavily monitered as well, mininova was awesome but i moved on
I haven’t used Mininova since they started screening torrents a while ago. Really I doubt there will be much of an impact. But if what #78 says is true, then looks like I’ll have to switch over to isohunt. Can’t wait for demonoid to come back.
yeah hurry the fuck up demonoid i donated cash just before they went off. like 3 bloody months ago. christ
What about Suprnova.org – the original!
As long as the uploaders continue to exist out there, the destruction of torrent sites won’t matter. We went through this with suprnova, tpb, mininova. It never kills things. In fact, they tend to come back even better through new channels.
SECOND
i just started a new Private tracker blaiknova.co.cc it has nothing and needs members but i dont know how to set up a public indexer yet. if you wanna help please email me blaikdragon@gmail.com
blaiknova.co.cc needs members and torrents. please join. if i knew how to open a public site like mininova i would do so without ads
Plenty of other trackers.
OMG! THE QUARTERBACK ISSS TOAST!!
P.S. Private trackers suck, they are for people with unlimited bandwith. What about people who are willing to share, but at a slower pace.
LONG LIVE BITTORRENT!!!
why people pirate things:
http://bbs.stardestroyer.net/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=135390&view=next
No 18,I checked out http://www.mininova.biz/
I do not know who they are,but I found that many of my torrents,from Demonoid and Mininova are listed there,some active some dead
Actually I see this story and the graph as potentially great news, in that many don’t seem to want “legal” or “monetized” content and are saying so by dropping off.
Copyright is unofficially dead.
Long live file-sharing.
Back to the tribe.
>P.S. Private trackers suck, they are for people with unlimited bandwith. >What about people who are willing to share, but at a slower pace.
There’s loads of ratio-less teackers out there, the only requirement is to seed for x amount of time.
Hey Ernesto, how about showing the stats for older established BT sites and for some of the new ones for comparison. Just might put the apple in the pigs mouth, so to speak!
In support of comment #89 Anoymous
‘why people pirate things:’
http://www.pcworld.com/article/122738/most_monitors_wont_play_new_hd_video.html
AACS has been hacked and I guess someone needs to make a monitor adapter that is HDCP on the computer side and normal on the monitor side.
Well rather than wait for my moderated post to be approved, I’ll simply leave out the author of this articles name and repeat the same question.
How about showing the stats for older established BT sites and for some of the new ones for comparison. Just might put the apple in the pigs mouth, so to speak!
Scratch my comment about the adapter as one already exists.
HDfury/
The revolution will be televised, only it won’t be in HD unless your pockets have been emptied for a brand new HDCP compliant display. More greed from the cabal!
I think every torrent site is atleast getting a bit overloaded since mininova has gone legal
every one check this site extratorrent.com
there is every good uploader from secretmyth to fxg and even less popular one’s like 3li
give it a try
lmao, mininova was a loser site anyway! WTG BREIN! wOOt!
http://www.plentyoftorrents.com Is easiest to use.
dumb naaagggeers
Wouldnt it be great to have a simple modification to these comment treads to indicate when a poster is posting under 3 or 4 different names, I know Torrentfreak wont publish the IP’S of those doing so but by indicating that posters are using multiple names we could at least know that a post is not worthy of our time and pass it by as propaganda, what about it Ernesto ?
Another similar idea is to add both names to a post if it comes from the same IP, this would drop spam posting to a more helpful level I suggest.
ttp://bitmedino.darkbb.com/forum.htm
the forum is free again…..join!!! they have good invites
Right, there is jsut something about going “legal” that takes all the fun out of it!
Alice
http://www.be-invisible.ua.tc
Any somehow the world keeps turning and i still get whatever i want online, for free.
“Legal” is so boring …
There’ multitude of good private trackers to chose from
immortalseed is my personal favorite
http://thegooglebay.com/ Great Alternative :D
Why don’t use ED2K network? No need for trakers just links… This forum has it all http://sharethefiles.com/forum/
*cough*
NNTP
*cough*
thats not news…..it would be news if their site traffic didn’t plummet.
way to state the obvious
Mininova was the best, no doubt about it. I’m gona miss so much.
Fuck anti-piracy.
Hasn’t TPB been the biggest torrent site for ages now?
Just one humble suggestion:
They should have “leaked” a HUGE TORRENT PACK of all of their torrents (just like someone did with the TPB ) before incapacitating Mininova.
Would have been nice.
If you need a starting point for torrents, I recommend this site informative site here:
http://myteev.blogspot.com
I’m glad mininova is gone.
Mininova was always crap.
All they did was steal torrents from other sites – particularly thepiratebay.
It’s easy for anyone to become the “largest” torrent site by listing everything everyone else has, so they deserved no praise.
Anyone who ever uploaded a torrent directly to Mininova is a moron.
It was funny enough that thousands of “mininova torrents” were crippled when tracker.thepiratebay went down, now it’s positively hilarious that the torrents are now completely gone.
I hope their appeal fails. They should never have removed the legal torrents they hosted. Hopefully this action will kill all goodwill towards them.
Down with mininova, down with demonoid. Long live thepiratebay.
blaiknova.co.cc its a new private torrent tracker. im not sure how to make one public like mininova or else i would have. I need staff ASAP I want to see a good torrent site with no stupid ads Born.
emmail me on the site or at blaikdragon@gmail.com
Thanks
Blaik
@114 pirate bay sucks there are so many viruses it has never been monitored properly mininova is or was the only torrentsite that wasnt 60 percent virus central other then private trackers
@114 Real Talk:
Real talk, you’re being a real jerk… “STEAL TORRENTS?!” :O
Why condemn a site that is replicating? What evil do you see in that? There’s TONS of others doing the same thing out there. Such thing is, at least, a form of redundance.
Worst thing about Mininova was their ridiculous lack of caution with the way they run the site (which is nicely discussed here at the TF on the “lessons learned” article).
You disprove private sites and yet act just like one of their fanboys.
I think you’re completely untuned with the P2P world mindset.
ThePirateBay may be fantastic but is not and SHOULD NOT be the only one out there. In fact, now they’re NOT even a tracker anymore! So now , technically, TPB is NOTHING more than Mininova!
P2P is sharing, sharing is for all.
Peace.
Methinks Real Talk(s) too much!
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Ernesto said “Mininova’s role as content provider has to be taken over by others.”
Just a friendly reminder, Mininova provided nothing but illegal access in the same way a paid fence moves stolen goods along.
Content is provided by the creators themselves, and/or the industry financial support that makes it all possible. Just so you don’t actually forget who REALLY provides content.
It would be hilarious if Mininova actually took a stab at “providing content.” lol
@119 Barry
It’s obvious, but it’s always nice to put things into retrospective, and I love the way TF does that.
I think their revisitation of subjects is awesome for those who doesn’t have time to always read all articles.
More from obvious news weekly:
The sky under normal condition is blue.
It was recently discovered that research causes cancer in rats.
If you borrow money from pessimists — they don’t expect it back.
I worry about this development.
While one could logically say that the drop in traffic to Mininova is due to the decrease in supply of torrents, anti-p2p parties can just as easily turn around and declare that the loss of traffic is due to the decrease in the availability of “illegal” torrents.
This paves the way for the declaration that people are only using BitTorrent and P2P as tools for illegal activities on the internet.
This is my main worry.
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I would believe it.
http://www.freebie-link.com/
i thank thank Mininova for their yrs of distributing torrents…but for me its dead…i feel like going to a funeral
Try http://www.torrenttree.com. Don’t let the government slow down your torrent use just by shutting down Mininova. Just search multiple sites from one location.
@6
he means that the grammar was wrong, not to quote it.
@39: tl;dr.
There are many alternatives to Mininova… Some of them are just listed here.
http://torrent-tricks.blogspot.com/2009/11/alternatives-to-mininova-10-of-them.html
Bye! Bye! Mininova!
Thanks to your caving in to the Mafiaa/Brein, all of the other torrent sites including the new ones, will enjoy receiving the bulk of your traffic from now on. ;)
Hey… kill one torrent site, and ten new ones pop up in its place. :)
“Netsukuku is the name of an experimental peer-to-peer routing system… to build up a distributed network, anonymous and censorship-free, fully independent but not necessarily separated from Internet, without the support of any server, ISP and no central authority. It does not rely on a backbone router, or on any routing equipment other than normal network interface cards…
Since Netsukuku is not a P2P net built upon the Internet, it handles routes differently. It is a physical network and it is a dynamic routing system designed to handle 2^128 nodes without any servers or central systems.”
- Wikipedia
Fri Sep 18 18:42:25 CEST 2009
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“We’ve done a lot of debugging and we’are almost done with the first
minimal release of PyNtk, the python implementation of Netsukuku. It is minimal because it has just the basic features to create a simple Netsukuku network, with hostname management.
We’are also strengthening the theory and writing proofs about it.
Expect updates soon!
In the meantime, check out the mailing list and the SVN repository…”
“Anonymous P2P in a wireless mesh network
It is possible to implement anonymous P2P used on a wireless mesh network: unlike fixed internet connections, users don’t need to sign up with an ISP to participate in such a network, and are only identifiable through their hardware. Even if a government were to outlaw the use of wireless P2P software, it would be difficult to enforce such a ban without a considerable infringement of personal freedoms… Protocols for wireless mesh networks are OLSR and the follow-up protocol B.A.T.M.A.N., which is designed for decentralized auto-IP assignment. See also Netsukuku”
btblackbox.com
The ratings on other sites must be so much higher now,
there is so many alternatives on the internet, there’s no way to freaking stop illegal torrenting other than stopping the entire internet.
illegal torrenting is like a good kind of cancer, one cancer cell down will do nothing to a constantly multiplying entity such as the torrenting system across the internet.
now I know cancer is a bad thing to compare something as beautiful as torrents to, but you get the idea
Hi Asepia:
I know I’m niggling here, but kindly indulge me: Even if you ‘stop the internet’, as I just posted, you Still can’t stop file-sharing because there are, and going to be, other networks and ways to share. Always.
Also, when you say, torrenting I think you know that, along with “the internet”, it is just one way to share. :)
Nice to hear, I know.
“Copyright is Dead; Live Different.”
Suprnova was taken down by authorities aswell…. It led to the creation of mininova….. All thats going to happen IMO is the creation of a newnova
So I didn’t even know about Mininova until I read about this article.
wbr, kenny
http://filesmixx.com
who cares if mininova has shut down or got shot into oblivion..!!! ..lame!!
i use private trackers and they rock..!!
u’ll be gr8ly missed mininova
love u
Why are you people surprised at this news I still dont get it. Now there’s nothing in mininova for the trafic to be good!
where the fluck is the motherflucking demonoid!!!!!!
how long does it take to come back!
And the internet slowly evolves into something useful after all!
There is only a short pause of silence before the big eruption, as we know by now we can track peoples phones numbers and find them by typing the number in! Or we can track people by trace routing there ip address. And every time they destroy the links of our lives it just makes us more resilient, stronger and more determined to find just what we have been looking for. To all the betrayal and lies we are left to wonder how long this game of cat and mouse will continue before they will have all sites and isp’s lock the internet to only show what they want our eyes to see. I am sorry yet I will choose to make it harder for them to find me and the masses, I will keep trying to gain access to locked doors, to find what I want with out the restrictions of a facist, socialist network of nations telling me why I am able or not to look at or download what I want. Do your best to win the passions in your mind and not let the people of a society of rule makers and money counters shift and sway your actions. We all know this is hypocracy, if they wanted to give a cd to someone a friend maybe they would do so burning it to media and thefact that they state this si so very different from that. Is there not enopugh of billions of dollars thwey have made on the movie of albumn before. I am glad we are making them think twice about how to make a buck instead of have them heard us like cattle into the dvd or music stores.
Stand Fast and continue to be the defiant, resiliant and outspoken; dare to be different if only for as long as it lasts To all the mininovas/ pirate bays and all others keep on and make them gasp in horror as there last dollars are spent crawling out of the wholes they dug and threw us in!!!
Now call me old fashioned but I would look for something along the lines of: The nice Homepage of Mininova. The authenticate Torrents of Mininova. Decent user comments of quality of video/audio. Even, if possible, online chat as per Winmx. In fact, something along the lines of the Wininova. Is that too much to ask?
BTJunkie, Isohunt,Torrentz, Torrentfreakz – not even close I’m afraid. I’m still wearing the black armband from Black Thursday
I was wondering why my torrent searches on Mininova didn’t give me what I wanted this week, but now I know o:P
thanks for the insight Bobe-on,
I never even considered what file sharing would be like if the internet DID get destroyed (because it was too outrageous to think deep into), but now that you’ve pointed it out, you are right.
there is honestly no end to it, just road blocks that might delay the transfer of files, a simply beautiful unstoppable machine.
unless they go all authoritarian on us that is, which I don’t see happening anytime soon where I live.
@ the daddy,
I agree that mininova has a great standard when it comes to what there site once was,
I personally use isohunt and demonoid, which are still just as good in my opinion, (I’m a big isohunt supporter)
but we’ll get used to the loss of mininova as we make a transition to other sites, even though this is such a heavy blow to tracking.
Bloody hell!!
I thought I’d use Rarbg.com [and I was getting used to the formate there] then they up and turn into a private porn upload site!!!
Please can I get to a site that uses kiss in it’s lay out?
My bandwidth is back in 2 days and I subscribed to a new 2 year contract that doubled my usage only to have the sky fall in!
@Reasoned Mind
Your a turd a stinky fffat turd. Go sniff a jockstrap you poophead. You love patting boys butts. You love patting boys butts, butt, butt patter. Your a perv and a loser and a stinkyy turd.
Gee, who didn’t see that coming?…….
I love that graph in the middle there. Downloads (in millions) but there’s no scale on the vertical!
Not surprising, at kickasstorrents we experience tons of users coming over from nova.
any suggestions to another good site?
What did they expect? Most of the top downloaded torrents were infinging files. It was a sad sad day. I feel dirty to wear their shirt…
Cfultz.com/blog
yes that’s true
I recommend speckly.com as an alternative of mininova.
It’s like torrentz.com but much more simpler. Actually, speckly’s design is similiar with google.
Anyway, I feel bad for mininova. I started to learn about torrent thanks to it.
I will remember you, mininova.
mininova is dead. long live p2p and torrent sharing. down with corporate muscle. sharing rules.
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