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MPAA Lists “Notorious” Pirate Sites To U.S. Government

The MPAA has submitted a new list of “notorious websites” to the Office of the US Trade Representative, sites that are all in danger of becoming the target of planned U.S. legislation. The list contains the most-visited torrent sites including The Pirate Bay, file-hosting and linking sites such as MegaUpload, and Russia’s Facebook equivalent, VKontakte. Interestingly, file-hosting service RapidShare is absent from the filing.

In a response to a request from the Office of the US Trade Representative (USTR), the MPAA has submitted a new list of “notorious markets” they say promote illegal distribution of movies and TV-shows.

The filing is particularly interesting since U.S. lawmakers have this week introduced a bill in the House that aims to neutralize these sites. The MPAA has been one of the most vocal proponents of the bill and the group is expected to call for action against the websites when it passes.

“The rogue overseas marketplaces highlighted in today’s filing are a direct threat to our community and the millions of hard-working Americans that rely on it for their livelihoods,” the MPAA writes in a statement.

“The MPAA commends and greatly appreciates the USTR’s recognition of the damage inflicted by these illicit markets on US global competitiveness and we applaud their work to protect American jobs.”

In their filing the MPAA lists a variety of websites, which they have organized in various categories. In addition to the location where the sites in question are hosted, the MPAA has also provided a short description for each of the sites.

Torrent and P2P Sites

The MPAA’s first category includes all the major torrent sites, which the group claims are facilitating mass copyright infringement. Also in this list is the Chinese BitTorrent-based application Xunlei, which is partly owned by Google.

  • ThePirateBay.org
  • Rutracker.org
  • Kat.ph
  • IsoHunt.com
  • Demonoid.me
  • Torrentz.eu
  • Btjunkie.org
  • Xunlei.com

File-hosting and streaming sites

The second category includes several file-hosting and streaming sites, but also the Russian Facebook equivalent VKontakte. The social networking site hosts a wide variety of music and video files uploaded by users. The MPAA describes VKontakte as a purposefully created hotbed of piracy.

“This result stems from the combination of site specific user upload and search functionality – including torrent functionality – designed to facilitate easy hosting and access to popular media files, together with the lack of any affirmative efforts by the sites’ operators to prevent copyright infringement,” they write.

  • Megaupload.com/Megavideo.com
  • Putlocker.com
  • Wupload.com
  • Simdisk.co.kr
  • VKontakte

Linking sites

The third group covers so-called linking websites. These organize links to copyrighted material which can be streamed or downloaded from third-party sites. On the top of the list is Video2k.tv, a site that sprung up when the popular German-based linking site Kino.to was raided earlier this year.

  • Video2k.tv
  • Letmewatchthis.ch
  • Movie2k.to
  • Seriesyonkis.com
  • 3000filmes.com

Newsgroups

The MPAA concludes their list of rogue websites with Usenet, but lists only one provider.

“This worldwide collection of servers is known as the Usenet, a high-speed direct download service offering access to a searchable global file exchange network. Today, illegal copies of movies and television shows are commonly posted in newsgroups for download by users around the world,” they write in their filing.

  • Usenext.com

One notable absentee from the list is RapidShare. The file-hosting service was included in the MPAA submission last year but was left out this time, although nothing has changed in its business setup. This could be a strategic decision as RapidShare itself has hired lobbyists to represent their interest in Washington recently.

The problem with the MPAA’s submission is that it’s not clear what distinguishes a “rogue” from a legitimate site. Until there are distinct and quantifiable characteristics this means that thousands of sites could fall under this label, and have their businesses ruined if the U.S. Government decides to intervene.

TorrentFreak asked the MPAA whether they could give a clear description of a rogue site, but they chose not to reply. The sites above can only hope that judges will see through the MPAA’s subjective definition when they have to review a domain seizure request or ISP blockade in the future.

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  • Jon7272

    so private sites dont exist according to them lol

    • LOLs

      Lots of new sites I’d never heard of…
      Thanks MPAA!

      • P2p

        “Wupload.com”

        i didn’t realize that it had so much good stuff on it. I only have seen it used for porn, and I have downloaded tons of porn from it. Thanks wupload. Please tell mafiaa.org to eat shit.

        • MafiaaisNotWorldPoliece

          “Usenext.com”

          usenext team is usually very fast to react to media reports and people complaining about there services. They are also very fast to sue and have sites taken offline or threads removed for speaking bad about them UseNext.com please do your stuff. We are counting on you. Thanks!

      • Anon

        lol lol lol yeah was just thinking that people find most of these sites via these retards lobbying….

        In the words of one of their movies “never go full retard”.

      • Rmbro

        Why dont you freaks just download legit? Oh, your collective motto is ” the best things in life are free “? You wouldnt be endorsing this behavior if you worked in themusic/movie industry. Damn losers, like children shoplifting at a candy store.

        • Meow

          Keep trolling. In the end I’ll still download 2 TB of free stuff per month. Have fun paying douche bag :)

      • Bryan

        Thats what I thought. I now have some new sites to try out and it comes just in time as icefilms is being kind of sketchy right now.

    • Mafiaa

      “TorrentFreak asked the MPAA whether they could give a clear description of a rogue site, but they chose not to reply.”

      i would like to answer that for mafiaa… Any site that has anything we don’t like on it which can be shared, so a rogue site is the entire internet unless its our websites only. We are power hungry whores. We think we own the whole world and don’t give 2 shits about the consumer. Suck our dick. We are mafiaa!

    • Gargamel

      They exist, but you have to remember the nature of what they are doing. Why take down a private site of 30k when you can go after some garbage site like TPB and take down a site serving millions.

      As i’ve said many times before, its GOOD to have crap sites like The Pirate Bay around because it keeps the heat/focus off the sites that are actually good :)

      Long live the Pirate Bay and its legions of idiots :D

      • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

        The Pirate Bay is not ‘crap’. They are one of the best sites out there, and I personally don’t like the private sites 1 for 1 faggotry, especially when some things are popular for an instant and then unpopular because people have realized they are crap.

        • Sketch

          yeah dude the pirate bay is crap. and so were the 3 stupid fucking assholes that ran it. they would ridicule any mpaa or riaa person that sent a takedown notice, they would post it online for everyone to laugh at. those dumb asshole neandrethals made their own bed by being stupid in public, now one is going to prison…..the pirate bay is a public toilet, nothing more.

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          Sketch, they still do run it and guess what? They still do ridicule those people at every turn, rightly in my opinion.

        • Jon7272

          says the man who cant get an invite lol . at least on private sites you get less false and virus ridelled files none even. i only left the pirate bay cause of lovely viruses killing my pc. yet to get 1 on private lol wheres your comeback lol

        • Pewterbot9

          You squoinked: “don’t like the private sites 1 for 1 faggotry”

          Take your anti-gay slurs and shove ‘em up your stinky hetero ass!

        • Notafaggot!

          Pirate Bay can be good for certain things.
          They have recommended uploaders that can be trusted. Etc. And the software catagory is always well stocked. Private Sites and sucking some intertube Larry’s greasy cockknob…just to get a invite? Seems too faggoty and faggot-like to me somehow. Like a faggot or something.Lewls.
          It’s not a lifestyle choice for me. Just a hobby. Ho hum.

      • Anon

        If it wasn’t for the Pirate Bay, there would be very lirrle opposition to things like excessive like copyright and patent laws that threatens our freedoms and fragmentation of the internet. The Pirate Party and Anonymous were born from the fight over the bay. Next time, have some respect.

      • test

        if not for the piratebay, you idiot, private sites will never have exited

        • Nowsmellmyotherfinger

          ArgyBargy!

    • IcantPOST

      I lol’d hard at VKontakte!

    • IcantPOST

      I lol’d hard at VKontakte!

  • Jimbo

    sounds to me like all the so-called ”notorious websites’ should get their own ‘lobbyists’, even if that means clubbing together, to fight the MPAA, RIAA MAFIAA and any other anti ‘file sharing’ organizations. it not only works for the groups mentioned above, but also seems as if it has worked for Rapidshare. no one in government, law enforcement or law making positions listen to a damn thing except what is spouted by the legacy industries. time to ‘fight fire with fire’ if that’s what it takes to get a sane and sensible result!

    • Laticia

      Russia’s Facebook equivalent, VKontakte wtf,I know they have music and shit there but its equavalent to facebook, mpaa go fuck yourself.. ““The rogue overseas marketplaces highlighted in today’s filing are a direct threat to our community and the millions of hard-working Americans that rely on it for their livelihoods,” the MPAA writes in a statement.” Translation: We are unwilling to adapt to a changing world and we wish you would shut the internet down so we can have overpriced casette tapes and cd’s again. Please suck our dick as we will suck your also..

      “The rogue overseas marketplaces highlighted in today’s filing are a direct threat to our community and the millions of hard-working Americans that rely on it for their livelihoods,” the MPAA writes in a statement.

      We are the world poliece. We don’t care that you are on another country or etc. We think we own the world and we will make the us do what we say. After all, they don’t call us mafiaa.org for nothing

    • Pepe

      This will only additionally fill the purses of the same lobbyists, lawyers, judges and all the other legal crap. The law itself should be changed either through parliamentary system or otherwise.

  • Meathamper

    The servers aren’t American and the domains hopefully aren’t hosted in the US… what’s the worse that could happen?

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000617943487 Máté Bikfalvi

      I guess DNS servers won’t resolve the addresses, i.e. they won’t work unless you type their IPs directly into the browser.

      • Jma_bee

        Then just connect to a DNS server that doesnt reside in the US or a US territory.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000617943487 Máté Bikfalvi

          Yes well obviously that would be the workaround.

        • Glib

          Unfortunately, the main DNS servers are managed by the US; that’s the main problem. If there was a reasonable way to come up with a non-ICANN based DNS server that could be managed without being mismanaged, these problems would not exist.

        • anon

          I’ve used openDNS for years now.

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          Glib, what are you gabbering about? There is no such thing as the “MAIN DNS SERVERS.”

          If you mean the root DNS servers, those can be EASILY worked around by setting other DNS servers as root in foreign countries.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000617943487 Máté Bikfalvi

      I guess DNS servers won’t resolve the addresses, i.e. they won’t work unless you type their IPs directly into the browser.

    • Grumpygit

      Same thing that happened to wikileaks.

      Payment processors and advertisers ordered to stop doing business with them.

      • Scary Devil Monastery

        You know, if you really wanted to bootstrap large parts of the internet community to Bitcoin or some other form of cryptocurrency then that is exactly what you should do.

        Which is fascinating. Rick Falkvinge wrote a four-part commentary on “Four drivers for Bitcoin” where he theoretisizes about what would drive a functional cryptocurrency. Forcing internet services to charge in payment alternatives other than paypal/VISA/Mastercard will certainly ensure there’s a hefty motivator – and go a long way towards expanding the Bitcoin userbase to a level where the currency may be considered “stable”.

        I’m sort of in doubt here. To have VISA and PayPal suspend services because a single site is leaking vasts amounts of confidential information is one thing – but the payment services surely have to realize that voluntarily jettisoning significant parts of the internet market virtually guarantees they open those parts for competitors.

        Given the amount of people actually using the services the MPAA mentions in their list, that’s a LOT of people wanting to buy or donate through alternatives.

        • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

          Actually, there was no ‘order’ to stop doing business with Wikileaks. They decided to do it after being threatened by the government and the idiots folded and lapped at their hand like a dog who has been beaten on a regular basis.

          Personally, if I owned Visa and Mastercard, I would have told the government to stick it, Wikileaks is doing nothing illegal or even immoral by the laws in the country where they exist.

    • Rekrul

      The servers aren’t American and the domains hopefully aren’t hosted in the US… what’s the worse that could happen?

      If the censorship bills pass in the US, ISPs will be ordered to block their IP addresses, making them unreachable unless a person uses a VPN or some kind of proxy service.

      • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

        You mean like…. gasp…. TOR! Might make people totally go TOR for everything at that point.

        With the massive amount of people who would then be running TOR servers, the speeds of TOR might skyrocket.

        • Pepe

          More people will get more aware how to go around blocks. New technics and tools will emerge making it easier. It will became mainstream accompanied with criprography… What will result in effective overturning of all filtering, even on what most people would agree, like the /already infamous for being used as a false pretext/ “child porn”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000617943487 Máté Bikfalvi

    They’ll only win if they stop the Scene, but good luck with that. 1-2 P2P sites are just a drop in the ocean. I’m more concerned with what these pricks (both big content and politicians) are trying to turn into law. I’m against this type of internet censorship (I understand that they weed out paedophile sites, but those are completely different from the situation at hand), in fact I’m against almost all kinds of censorship, especially that which is done out of political correctness.

    I’m not even from the US but, clearly this will be a precedent which other countries can follow and that’s something I don’t want to happen.

    Someone seriously needs to get their shit straight and tell these guys to fuck off.

    • Sermilainen

      Scene releases are often worse than p2p releases … Which have had their own sources for few years now. Of course you see re-encoder groups popping up all the time, but who cares. Customized sheeeeeeeeet for everyones needs.

      What I’m saying: People, stop pirating, if there’s reasonable sources for legal downloads or streamings. Part two: Copyright holders PLEASE start sharing without artificial delays between regions; The Internet made world one market, deal with it, again, PLEASE! Do it now, stop this bullshit.

      • anon

        That will never happen. You want companies that cater to your need and are fair? Go with Indy companies like Mojang or ones that understand the market like Valve. Sure, they may not be perfect, but if you compare them to the assholes like the Mafiaa…

    • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

      Personally, I don’t understand why they need to weed out pedosexual sites since pedosexuality is a normal sexuality.

      I would rather they legalize child pornography (yes, even the pictures of real children) and simply start teaching children (as I did with my children) that if someone tries to touch them without their permission on genitals or not, they are to yell, scream, rant and rave.

      Even if it is me, in the case of their genitals, unless I am giving them a bath or something with their full permission.

      • Guest

        Uh huh. A few things.

        1, Pedosexuality is a “Normal” sexuality? By what definition? It’s naturally occuring if that’s what you mean, but I’m gonna go ahead and say that doesn’t make it normal. Also, regardless of whether or not it’s normal, it’s still a sexuality that can only come to physical fruition through the harm of a child.

        2. Children are taught that. It doesn’t help much. It turns out that when an authority figure that they’ve been told to respect molests them, it actually creates some conflict for them about what to do. Fear and shame are very prevalent factors, which isn’t even noting the influence of good old fashioned violence. Your “solution” is already done by every parent in this country. Doesn’t solve the problem.

        3. A question; if I took naked photos of you without your consent, could I post them online and have them left there? If no, then why can pedophiles do it to children?

        4. What reason could we have for legalizing child pornography? There is no possible benefit, (If you think it will decrease the instances of actual child abuse, show me a study. Good luck finding it. It doesn’t exist.)

      • Guest

        Uh huh. A few things.

        1, Pedosexuality is a “Normal” sexuality? By what definition? It’s naturally occuring if that’s what you mean, but I’m gonna go ahead and say that doesn’t make it normal. Also, regardless of whether or not it’s normal, it’s still a sexuality that can only come to physical fruition through the harm of a child.

        2. Children are taught that. It doesn’t help much. It turns out that when an authority figure that they’ve been told to respect molests them, it actually creates some conflict for them about what to do. Fear and shame are very prevalent factors, which isn’t even noting the influence of good old fashioned violence. Your “solution” is already done by every parent in this country. Doesn’t solve the problem.

        3. A question; if I took naked photos of you without your consent, could I post them online and have them left there? If no, then why can pedophiles do it to children?

        4. What reason could we have for legalizing child pornography? There is no possible benefit, (If you think it will decrease the instances of actual child abuse, show me a study. Good luck finding it. It doesn’t exist.)

  • http://twitter.com/p2jack P2p Jack

    they missed out on rlslog.net oneddl.com scnsrc.me irfree.com sceper.eu warez-bb.org etc…..

    • LOLs

      Hush now. Don’t be giving them what they don’t know about.

    • anon

      missing from the list: The whole Internet

      Lets be real here, unless the Mafiaa shutdown the internet completely, no way are they going to get their wish. Its not even funny anymore

      • Nowsmellmyotherfinger

        The Jesus Christ Cracken for Wikileaks was available for months online! Months! Just sittin there! But, no one knew where it was at so only a few found it. In my Father’s mansion there are many rooms…

  • djnforce9

    Why is the MPAA even interested in VKontakte? That site doesn’t host movies. It seems more like an RIAA target if you ask me unless those two organizations are now working together or something (wouldn’t be surprising).

    • Kef

      see mafiaa.org (the music and film industry association of america), they are one now (merged)

      • Gene_Poole

        Bahahahahahahaha….well done.

        If only they’d have the balls to just come out and do exactly this.

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  • Anonymous

    I am seeding my legal bands I have played in on TPB & BTJUNKIE.This Government is taking away my Constituitional Rights to perform my music and to make my music available to others.I am not going to continue to take shit from Washington.I want this system changed and will vote for Candidates who will not take money.And who will not take our freedom away.These Senators and Representatives who agree to these toilet paper bills should be tarred & feathered.
    OWS needs to start mounting Candidates as I will vote for any OWS Candidates who speak a good talk.We will infiltrate and take over the Government from the rich corrupted asses who rule us now.
    FUCK YOU WASHINGTON !

    • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

      Yup, well said my friend.

      Note at the end of their letter (at p.11 of the pdf) these fuckwits state,
      “MPAA … strongly support efforts by the US government to work with trading partners to protect and enforce intellectual property rights and, in so doing, protect U.S. jobs.”

      But according to you JK, these asswipes will simply shut you (and many other indies) down by removing your preferred method of distribution of YOUR own work and property – so where the fuck’s their evidence that US jobs will be protected?

      • Anonymous

        The other issue I have is no news outlets or newspapers are even bothering to write about this one.,America will be in for a rude awakening.
        it seems only the computer literate knows about this now and no one else.
        i posted a long thing explaining this today on the maine press herald and a bunch of goons said i should mellow out and i was paranoid and blah blah blah.
        but none of them truly knows what this asshole government is planning to do to all of us.
        most people really are like a herd of sheep and just as mindless.

        • Jon7272

          here in australia alan jones listeners and murck paper readers there all sheep lol

        • Jon7272

          sorry murdoch

        • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

          That’s PRECISELY why it’s so important for the ‘ordinary person’ to now contact, visit, write, email or shit on their elected representative(s) by stating what’s bugging them.

          And I agree with you 100% JK that politicians are now hiding their actions so that people wont know wtf they’re doing until law is passed, and the shit hits (not the fan) but our face, our jobs and our wallets :(

          The media is also failing us on this one too – so yup, I again agree with you 100% my friend.

          You’re a breath of fresh air, and I wish every success in your music career – despite the blocks on you by the MAFIAA and the US government via the USTR.

  • Anonymous

    lol, good thing we can easily bypass silly US filtering. Too funny dude.
    real-privacy.no.tc

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  • Lollywaffle

    Any news on if the RIAA has submitted theirs? They usually do around the same time IIRC.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PFCI5VRUCYT6AVBT3P6ILV3COI Ophelia Millais

      Search at regulations.gov for “notorious markets” and organize the results by date. You’ll see there’s a flurry of submissions on Oct. 26, the deadline to nominate and comment on “notorious markets” to be reviewed in next year’s “Special 301″ report. The RIAA’s submission is there, as is the Business Software Alliance’s. No surprises; they name many of the same sites as the MPAA. VKontakte submitted a strong objection.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PFCI5VRUCYT6AVBT3P6ILV3COI Ophelia Millais

      Search at regulations.gov for “notorious markets” and organize the results by date. You’ll see there’s a flurry of submissions on Oct. 26, the deadline to nominate and comment on “notorious markets” to be reviewed in next year’s “Special 301″ report. The RIAA’s submission is there, as is the Business Software Alliance’s. No surprises; they name many of the same sites as the MPAA. VKontakte submitted a strong objection.

  • TPB Free

    In the letter, there are these words: “Earlier this year, the website circumvented an Italian court’s order
    that blocked access to Btjunkie.org in Italy by launching a proxy located at Proxyitalia.com/btjunkie.org.”

    It isn’t correct. Here in Italy even proxyitalia.com is blocked.
    the correct site is proxyitalia.appspot.com/btjunkie.org
    If the proxy will be blocked, they we can sent us an e-mail in order to be updated with a new address.

    • TPB Free

      *they can sent us an e-mail in order to be updated with a new address.

  • Anonymous

    Megaupload’s great, I hope they don’t take it down

    • Efe

      its based in hong kong, megaupload and the other sites should change their domains to outside of icann control and whatnot

  • foff

    It seems a little useless to me. Such sites could easily come up with a work around. Although I would suggest they do so only after such legislation thus it won’t be contemplated in the legislation. The problem with any legislation is that it is hard if not impossible to craft legislation that amounts to censorship without violating free speech. There are plenty of sites and books and tapes that explain how to grow mj yet none to my knowledge are illegal.

    Torrent sites don’t as a rule make a lot of money. They make enough to pay for operations and provide some of the owners an average living. On the other hand cyberlockers and services like usenext make a lot. So if the RIAA and MPAA really care about who is actually making money off of copyright material blocking torrent sites is the wrong party.

    Anyway any block is a waste of time. It is easily circumvented and at worst the site could get a new ip and a new name not on the list. Who knows maybe someone will make a pirate browser or plug in to a browser that automatically by passes all blocks. So anyway you look at it any legislation will be moot if it ever becomes law.

    • Sinani201

      Something that circumvents these restrictions (like Mafiafire http://mafiaafire.com/) are also illegal. That would essentially outlaw people telling each other the IP address of a blocked website.

  • Ahnon

    What really pisses me off about all of this is how the internet has become a haven for Corporations. Look at Google for example, they basically know everything about everyone and have a monopoly on internet advertisement (search based, and overall). The average consumer sees so many ads in one day and provides so much personal information to a vast number of companies, and they don’t even realize it. They think the internet is “free” but it is not. We pay by giving up our search habits to these invisible companies. Our personal information is a goldmine and we take that for granted while surfing the internet everyday. That being said, the internet is already largely under corporate control. If the U.S. starts blocking and taking down sites, then there will be nothing left for me.

    Since I don’t want to be surfing a corporate internet that has no piratebay or no demonoid, could we not start a search engine or “internet” that is SOLELY based on creative commons work and completely legal? We could keep it 100% legal, no ads, no website that could be deemed illegal by any law, no monetization of information, and keep the corporations OUT COMPLETELY. That is, there would be a search engine that excludes all sites that have corporate interests, and keep everything creative commons. That way, there would be no giant companies taking over and stealing our private information, and no garbage ads in my search engine results. The U.S. and corporations could do nothing about this, as it would be completely legal. That would be a dream of mine. Too bad I have no programming skills.

  • Ahnon

    What really pisses me off about all of this is how the internet has become a haven for Corporations. Look at Google for example, they basically know everything about everyone and have a monopoly on internet advertisement (search based, and overall). The average consumer sees so many ads in one day and provides so much personal information to a vast number of companies, and they don’t even realize it. They think the internet is “free” but it is not. We pay by giving up our search habits to these invisible companies. Our personal information is a goldmine and we take that for granted while surfing the internet everyday. That being said, the internet is already largely under corporate control. If the U.S. starts blocking and taking down sites, then there will be nothing left for me.

    Since I don’t want to be surfing a corporate internet that has no piratebay or no demonoid, could we not start a search engine or “internet” that is SOLELY based on creative commons work and completely legal? We could keep it 100% legal, no ads, no website that could be deemed illegal by any law, no monetization of information, and keep the corporations OUT COMPLETELY. That is, there would be a search engine that excludes all sites that have corporate interests, and keep everything creative commons. That way, there would be no giant companies taking over and stealing our private information, and no garbage ads in my search engine results. The U.S. and corporations could do nothing about this, as it would be completely legal. That would be a dream of mine. Too bad I have no programming skills.

    • Guest

      Nice fantasy. Completely unrealistic, but if it could work in the real world, it admittedly would be pretty cool.

      • Ahnon

        Unrealistic, yes, but not impossible. It could be community-supported (in terms of costs for servers, ect.), like all other open-source projects (also think, indiegogo or kickstarter to get things going) or. If for one would gladly support or pay a small annual fee or contribute time to such a project to have access to a search engine that does not monetize information or steal my private information by tracking my search patterns or manipulating search results. As a community of information sharers we need to get off our asses, and start thinking of creative ways to combat the corporate control of information and of the internet. One way to do that is by creating a community with our own set of rules within the realms of legality (as discussed in my first comment).

        • Guest

          It’s possible, but the openings for progression are fairly limited. It’s entirely possible to create, but the big problem won’t be actually making it, it will be convincing people to use it, particularly if they have to pay for it. It will also be problematic convincing creators to post content if they can’t use advertising to gain revenue.

          The reason the internet grew so much was financial incentives for everyone involved. If we’re gonna say no financial incentives for anyone on this new internet, it won’t get much in the way of quality or continued development.

          A better project would just be the creation of a search engine that doesn’t record data, as well as a program that detects attempts to record data and requests your permission before entering a site that would do so.

          On a side note to what your tone is (or what I think it is, might just be my mistake), I just want to clarify on whether or not you think that profiting from the internet can be, in and of itself, a bad thing, and if so, to what degree?

      • Ahnon

        Unrealistic, yes, but not impossible. It could be community-supported (in terms of costs for servers, ect.), like all other open-source projects (also think, indiegogo or kickstarter to get things going) or. If for one would gladly support or pay a small annual fee or contribute time to such a project to have access to a search engine that does not monetize information or steal my private information by tracking my search patterns or manipulating search results. As a community of information sharers we need to get off our asses, and start thinking of creative ways to combat the corporate control of information and of the internet. One way to do that is by creating a community with our own set of rules within the realms of legality (as discussed in my first comment).

    • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

      Good comment. Not just smart, wise. Thanks

      • Ahnon

        In reply to Guest.
        Thanks for the comment. I don’t think profiting from the internet is a bad thing. Using your example, it’s true a content provider will need revenue via advertising to survive. My answer to that would be to advertise only for non-profit entities that have non-profit causes. Non-profits can have revenues, just not oriented towards for profit purposes with shareholders (ect.). That way, the community doesn’t get out of control, as things do with the capitalist model. I think its fine to make money with the internet, but not for the sole purpose of growing into a monopoly and growing only to gain more capital. Once that happens, net neutrality will likely be violated, as making revenue trumps as.
        That being said, revenues could be used towards non-profit goals dedicated towards social gain. Thus, this “fantasy” internet community and search engine and information community would be there not for capitalist gain but for nonprofit goals oriented towards social gain and other humanitarian causes. This would ensure that also information remains free from corporate hands, making it as pure and transparent as possible, while maintain the privacy of its users. I know it sounds a little crazy… and unrealistic… but I shiver when I think about the future of the internet and global information access.
        But yes, you are right… your idea for the search engine is simpler, and might be a good start.

        • Mrktmind

          Profit is not a bad word. Neither is Capitalism.

          However, greed is a bad word and therein lies our current world problem. Do you think that anyone would invest millions to make a top-notch movie if there was no profit to be made? I want people to make a profit but I don’t want them to get ultra rich off of one (1) movie (song, video game, software program, book,etc.) Lately the movie studio’s have made a pretty nice profit just off the box office (keeping in mind that movies aren’t just made for one country to view like they used to be). The movie studios could give away movies once they have left the movie theaters and still be filthy rich if they made multiple movies per year.

          Be pissed off at the MPAA, RIAA, etc. but don’t blame profit or capitalism. Profit and Capitalism used to supply millions of small business owners with a comfortable middle class living. Until the 1%er’s started consolidating every industry and running the small local businesses out.

        • Ahnon

          And yes, Mrktmind, I didn’t mean to imply “capitalism” (e.g., as in revenue making) in all forms as being bad, but rather that “greedy” revenue making (e.g., for maximum profit) has been the problem for the internet. We need an internet comprised of content and services which maintain the principles of net neutrality, and exclude the entities using it as a tool to perpetually gain capital at the expense of privacy, transparency, openness (ect) and other negative consequences on information access. That is the princple of “non-profit” – you can still make capital but not get ultra rich, because to maintin non-profit status you can only give yourself a reasonable salary, not millions of dollars (as seen in corporations). Those corporations are taking and ruining the internet. The current battle that is taking place is: right to pirate versus corporations… however we also need to start think of a battle of non-piracy related issues versus corporations. It shouldn’t just be about the right to share files, but the right to have a corporate free internet.

        • Captain

          it’s the same

          capitalism is the root of the problem.

          capitalism brings greed & destroy the planet & human being ability for a life with nature and some emotional & spiritual connections to the universe..

        • Guest

          @Ahnon

          Forgive me, but I like having an internet that exists for profit. I like having Amazon ready to deliver me things. I like reading SMBC, and that guy makes his living off his comics. It exists for profit. I like reading videogame news sites that only exist because they make enough money off of advertising to add profit to the pockets of the people who own the sites.

          There’s nothing wrong with wanting to maximize profit. The problem only exists when the political system is manipulated to remove competition or to remove punishments for those who introduce abuse. Most capitalist profit on the internet does not fit into that.

          Non-profits wouldn’t be nearly enough to build a new internet infrastructure. They simply don’t have the same motivation. Why should a man write articles or make videos, or maintain a website if it’s only going to cover his costs and never add profit to him?

          Profit builds things. Capitalism builds things. Non-profits can do great good, but they don’t have that wealth producing ability. In an ideal world where individuals didn’t need profit in order to get what they want, then non-profits could build a solid infrastructure. As it stands now, that’s not true, so they can’t.

          It’s really a nice idea, and on a very small scale it could have potential, but on any large scale, it’s simply so unrealistic as to be impossible. Sometime far, far in the future maybe. Not now.

    • Guest

      It would be cool.

      The free internet…

      In the meantime, you can use ‘adblock plus’ (firefox addon) to remove ads, ‘ghostery’ to disable tracking, ‘noscript’ if you want more anonimity…

      That + tor and you are pretty much safe ;)

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  • Khsdgds

    screw coorps and screw the mpaa to death

  • Guest

    Thanks for letting me know where to go when one of the sites gets brought down MPAA

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  • Guest

    Man, the US is going to become the least free country in the West soon if it goes through with this legislation.

  • ThumbsUpThumbsDown

    If the MPAA were posting out this target list as just another empty bluff, one could stick it where the sun don’t shine and save the working world some valuable toilet paper.

    However, there’s no denying that these corporate powers are ninety percent of where they want to be: With politicians completely under their influence, they’ve been able to bring police and prosecutorial authority on board to do the take downs.

    What will be left? We can see that also. A clean, sterile market of overpriced banal products and services shoved down the eyeballs of captive consumers who’s every meaningless piece of social interface is branded and distributed for the benefit of the corporate seller rather than the human consumer. The internet will in effect have been transformed into a corporate desktop where the individual citizen’s function is to buy approved product.

    The first thing that’s most concerning is that this isn’t just a plan. We’ve been citizens of this plan for awhile now.

    The second thing that’s most concerning is that there’s very little sign of a new kind of politician emerging to express these fears and organize the kind of resistence that would replace the existing political establishment with a better alternative.

    • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

      For a new kind of politician, click on your country (down right-hand side) of this page -
      http://www.pp-international.net/

      Then join up and get involved, because the best way for evil (such as the MAFIAA and their political whores) to succeed is for good people to do nothing.

      • Guest

        And the best way to make them fail is to kill them all.

    • Ahnon

      You’ve expressed these concerns better than I can!
      You really nailed it with “The internet will in effect have been transformed into a corporate desktop where the individual citizen’s function is to buy approved product. ” Hence the need to combat this somehow before it is too late.

    • Guest

      “. . .there’s no denying that these corporate powers are ninety percent of where they want to be. . .”

      True. But they did not make a dent on file sharing and they did not make anyone come back to buy their shits either. Without the DVD and the movie theater they would be already all dead. And now this is going down too!

      This was predictable. You piss-off your customers you die. (Marketing 101)

      Hollywood will burn down.

  • http://twitter.com/unthekno nthekno

    you cant take down the demonoid, who do they think they are lol

  • Ven

    Gonna hazard a guess as to why RapidShare is not on that list: it could potentially be ammo that RS uses to point out the lack of oversight goes into attacking these sites. It could give a win in their high-profile case, or even hurt political opinions in Washington.

  • Robespierre

    There is a worldwide revolution beginning right now as we speak and these corporate parasites are all arrogant and nasty. What doe they think is going to hapen next?

    They are all going to die the Fooooooooooools!

  • http://twitter.com/al_d_25 booda dass

    I hope they take down Usenext.com , there model is “try for free for 14 days … then if u don`t cancel we will charge you for a year! hahah..” they tried that with me, good thing Paypal got my money back :P

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  • itswotnosesr4

    how to educate people and show them where to find good sites part 1000. many thanks and now i have the incentive to learn portugese , spanish and swiss, so shall download the full language courses from piratebay.
    yours
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    how to educate people and show them where to find good sites part 1000. many thanks and now i have the incentive to learn portugese , spanish and swiss, so shall download the full language courses from piratebay.
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  • Woobawooba

    It’s funny how things just pop into your head.

    When I was reading this, the theme song to “Dad’s Army” just popped into my head.

    In the line, “If you think Old England’s done” I have changed it to “If you think sharing’s done”.

    I dedicate this to the obama administration and the mpaa/riaa.

    Come on fellow sharers, sing along with me….

    Who do you think you are kidding Mr. Hitler?
    If you think we’re on the run,
    We are the boys who will stop your little game.
    We are the boys who will make you think again.
    ‘Cus who do you think you are kidding Mr. Hitler?
    If you think sharing’s done?

    Mr. Brown goes off to town
    On the 8:21.
    But he comes home each evening
    And he’s ready with his gun.

    So watch out Mr. Hitler
    You have met your match in us.
    If you think you can push us
    We’re afraid you’ve missed the bus.

    So who do you think you are kidding Mr. Hitler?
    If you think sharing’s done.

    • Jonsd

      This is an international forum, Woobawooba, not restricted to the domain of English-Sheep-Shaggers. Comparing this situation to dads army is something only a moron would do. It’s impossible to take the english seriously with their girly effeminate accents.

      • Wiseassss

        Excuse me, Mr. Ladyboy. How does insulting your allies rally support exactly?
        Perhaps you can enlighten us as to how many political or physical actions you have employed lately?

    • /b/loody flies!!

      u should change ‘hitler’ to ‘obama’

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  • Anonymous

    tiny.cc/qcfnd

    • Captain Buzzoverinthehead DFC

      It’s the return of the spamming scum.

  • Paquest_18

    According to the U.S. Government and law enforcement everything* is notorious, even a byte of computer data. Also there is sheep out there who don’t even know about net neutrality or the ongoing battle of a free internet, they need to curled into truth before the media and law enforcement trolls(Lobbyists, and etc.) get to them. I bet the government and law enforcement hated when the internet boom broke the jailcells they putted people in. The freedom of information and the internet lies at risk we must put a stop to all the liers and the sheep of the government and law and order system before they shove us back into cages of pathetic lifes of the past. To hell with these puppets of money and I wonder what makes them move strings attached and all controlled whatever their master controller “money” tells them what to do apparently it’s their “job” to follow the command. Compare life before the internet age and you see how small caged we all once were before the revolutions(Middle east & etc.), protests(Occupy wall street), free information, innovations that came from the internet and people who built it from the ground up, and still carry it to the fingertips of our hands today. The internet was never mean’t for any control except by the people who actually use it not lobbyists, corporations, high power suits, people in uniform and etc. Spread the word to other people it can help stop the hidden efforts to shift the internet to the wrong hands.

  • townie2

    know what’s really scary about this shit? the Government listens to them. what happens if they decide to list sites like the United Nations website, the Roman Catholic website, End World Hunger, World Peace, you get the idea. their scared of the due process of law, and the Government listens, otherwise your innocent until proven guilty. think i could submit a list of websites i don’t like, and the Government will shut them down for me? yeah, right. i guess justice is for the rich, might is right, jungle law, etc.

  • http://twitter.com/AlyssaBlindy Alyssa Blindy

    ERROR!!!
    “The filing is particularly interesting since U.S. lawmakers have this week introduced a bill in the House that aims to neutralize these sites. The MPAA has been one of the most vocal proponents of the bill and the group is expected to call for action against the websites when it passes.”
    Another error:
    “TorrentFreak asked the MPAA whether they could give a clear description of a rogue site, but they chose not to reply. The sites above can only hope that judges will see through the MPAA’s subjective definition when they have to review a domain seizure request or ISP blockade in the future.”
    Please change the “when’s” that stand out to “ifs’.” It isn’t definite that this bill will pass. I truly hope it doesn’t.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PFCI5VRUCYT6AVBT3P6ILV3COI Ophelia Millais

    I was surprised the MPAA didn’t include inflated loss figures. Then I found that to the USTR’s credit, in their annual request for interested parties to send them a list of “notorious markets”, they stipulated that “any comments that include quantitative loss claims should be accompanied by the methodology used in calculating such estimated losses.” I’m impressed.

  • anotherone

    “and we applaud their work to protect American jobs”

    What about protecting the jobs of those involved in the Internet business?
    From technicians installing cables on the streets to specialized professionals working in the complex infrastructure of data centers everywhere, ISP personnel that work to provide service to thousands of customers, and not forgetting people in the computer hardware business, manufacturing countless hard disks and routers every year, hey there’s billions of dollars in wages at stake for all that too!

    Or do they think people pay big bucks for their ISP’s high-speed broadband connections just to read e-mail and watch cat videos on YouTube? lol

    • From

      If your business model relies on illegality, then you need a new one. And that’s your problem, not mine.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PFCI5VRUCYT6AVBT3P6ILV3COI Ophelia Millais

    Re: the definition of “rogue”, last year’s submission (docket ID USTR-2010-0029) from the Global Intellectual Property Center, U.S. Chamber of Commerce, contained many suggestions to the USTR on how to define rogue websites. Maybe the MPAA is using that?

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  • Cetipabo

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  • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

    Wuipload? Notorious pirate site? Where the hell are they getting that from? Wupload has a policy where if you can PROVE you are the owner of something that is uploaded to their servers by someone else, they will delete it or let you ‘take ownership’ of that upload from the other person.

    • LOLZ-MPAA

      Because wupload has paid off a ton of webmasters to advertise? especially running ads on warez-bb for 6 months? ure bound to get some attention then

    • LOLZ-MPAA

      Because wupload has paid off a ton of webmasters to advertise? especially running ads on warez-bb for 6 months? ure bound to get some attention then

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  • Guest

    aren’t these bitches tired of going after the pirate bay? you can’t take TPB down, it’s just impossible

    • Nowsmellmyotherfinger

      Wack-a-mole.

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  • Ryan Weaver

    I just got an email back from Senator Sherrod Brown on PROTECT-IP and SOPA. He’s for both bills, so I guess I know who I am not electing in the next election. He’s bought into the Hollywood propaganda about file-sharing costing American Jobs.

    • Nowsmellmyotherfinger

      Like he gives a squirt o piss about your fucking vote, Ryan Weaver.

  • Nowsmellmyotherfinger

    Damn ye Pirate Hoarders! Your 1,000,000 file music collection is fucking capitalism right in it’s well oiled asshole! Just ramming it all the way DEEP into that tight little balloon knot rosebud. ALL. THE. WAY. ARGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

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    Ha the main site I use isn’t even listed. Rofl.

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