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MPAA: Piracy Will Always Be With Us

In a rare interview session two of the MPAA’s top executives gave an interesting insight into the movie industry’s view on copyright in the digital age and the anti-piracy hunt that accompanies it. The pair say that their organization will continue to fight against copyright infringements, but admit that piracy will never be completely defeated.

  • mpaaFritz Attaway and Craig Hoffman are two of the MPAA’s top suits. Attaway is one of the leading people involved in developing the movie industry’s anti-piracy policies, and Hoffman Fritz is the head of corporate communications for the movie industry body.

    As part of a course on the production of digital media at the University of Texas, the two were invited for an interview to share their views on copyright and the movie industry in the digital age.

    The two touched on a wide variety of subjects such as three-strikes policies, the future of DVDs and fair use. They also gave some background information on key decisions they’ve made over the years. Although the MPAA believes that piracy can be decreased by beating pirated films in terms of quality and availability, they don’t think that it will ever go away completely.

    “We will do whatever we can to discourage illegal accessing of our motion pictures,” Fritz Attaway said. “We have no illusions that we will be 100 percent successful. Piracy has always been and will always be with us. Our goal is to keep it under a reasonable level of control where we can make enough revenue in a legitimate market to recoup expenses and continue to make new movies.”

    “And I am very optimistic that we will be able to do that. I said in the very beginning that a very large part of that is developing new business models that consumers will access legally and find that experience superior to illegal access. And I think the industry is doing an excellent job of that and will continue to do so,” he added.

    When the interviewer compared the RIAA’s anti-piracy operations with those of the the MPAA, Attaway seemed to be offended when the RIAA’s tactics were described as more aggressive. He noted that the two outfits have chosen different paths to pursue their goals, but that they are just as ‘bad’ as their music industry counterpart.

    “We are extremely aggressive, certainly equally aggressive as RIAA or any other copyright owner group,” Attaway said. “We have used slightly different tactics than RIAA in part because of the nature of our respective works. There are certainly other reasons as well but MPAA has filed end user lawsuits like RIAA has.”

    “However, they are very expensive and we have determined that there are other routes that provide a better return; among them education, working with intermediaries like ISPs to discourage infringing activity, and one, that is probably the most important, is encouraging the development of new business models that provide legitimate alternatives. All of these avenues we are pursuing very aggressively,” he added.

    When the subject turned to the role ISPs have in countering copyright infringement, three-strikes policies for repeated infringers were brought up. The MPAA is encouraging these kinds of policies, but stressed that in the United States the decision to terminate the account of an alleged copyright infirnger is made by the Internet provider.

    “We encourage ISPs to at least notify subscribers who are engaging in infringing material and advise them that it is illegal and could have consequences. And for repeat infringers we encourage ISPs to terminate service but that is strictly a decision of the ISP and not ours,” Attaway said.

    The full interview with the two MPAA executives is available on the Copygrounds website which is part of the introductory course on the production of digital media at the University of Texas.

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    • Jigsy

      And they’ll still try to pointlessly fight it… idiots.

    • RzmmDX

      If only they meant it.

    • Peter

      Yes, we will always be here!

    • Acce

      The only thing they will accomplish, is to scare the casual file sharers. File sharing will be limited to tech savvy guys and private underground communities. Like in drugs cartels, only a fraction of the population will be able to operate the operation, but the products will still be available to everyone.
      This will result in REAL piracy.

    • dR435t4

      hmm i never took the MPAA for realists!!

    • Widget

      The only “new business model” I’ve seen that hasn’t been met with a lawsuit was iTunes’ TV/Movie “Rentals”, which are rather overpriced considering what you get for it.

    • The United Hackers Association

      and in a full interview with a scene pirate he stated that will will however be able to get rid of the mpaa one day just not right away.

      they are only saying it you idiots so that they can keep asking for more intrusive laws to stomp on your dead grandmother so they can sue her too.

    • Toasty

      These guys took this long to admit something the RIAA realized a few years ago. They’re going to keep fighting until they’re bankrupt, then go on to blame all of their financial woes on piracy. When really it’s just their pointless and stubborn point of views in regards on moving with the times.

      They also need to realize, but will continue failing to do, is to admit that they don’t OWN the internet. They own nothing of it, and it should always be the ISP’s call on how they should handle piracy. Not the other way around.

    • Anonymous

      the encouragement they give the ISPs is ‘do what we tell you or be taken to court as well’! the new business models they are encouraging to be developed are non-existent. if there were any, customers would be using them. it would then seem like they were listening to customers and giving services that are wanted. there is no chance of them doing that. if they did, it would mean admitting that customers were more sensible than their multi-million dollar executives (which they obviously are!).

    • leon

      the encouragement they give the ISPs is ‘do what we tell you or be taken to court as well’! the new business models they are encouraging to be developed are non-existent. if there were any, customers would be using them. it would then seem like they were listening to customers and giving services that are wanted. there is no chance of them doing that. if they did, it would mean admitting that customers were more sensible than their multi-million dollar executives (which they obviously are!).

    • The DON

      Even Dan (I love boyscouts) Glickman stated quite openly that they would never get rid of piracy.

      Nothing new in this article except the person making the statement.

      I think the main issue is reducing piracy among those who would have paid to see the film.

      Some films are pirated by people who would have no intention whatsoever of spending money on seeing the film.

      Other films are pirated by people who then go on to watch the film at the cinema with their whole family.

      A third group pirate films, then do not see it at a cinema (or buy it) when they would have been inclined to do so had they not had access to the pirated copy.
      This last group should be the sole target of any antipiracy campaign by the MPAA

    • what

      What did you say? I couldn’t hear you over my cannon fire

    • Greg

      Maybe then they can agree to get all movie’s on netflix or hulu.

      Or maybe I’ll die of old age waiting. There’s nothing wrongwith blind hope righy

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    • Anonymoose

      Of course piracy will always be with us.

      Even if you were to take extensive steps to destroy piracy, the optimal level of crime in any region/society is non-zero.

      For example, cocaine is illegal. But the amount of effort needed to catch cocaine dealers varies with the number of dealers. Obviously if a LOT of dealers and users are in an area, it’s easy to catch them. But it’s extremely expensive and counter-productive to catch the very last casual cocaine user.

      Same applies to piracy. Can you imagine how much effort would be required to catch the LAST scene group?

    • Anonymous

      If people don’t have jobs in this economy, then how do you expect them to pay for your shitty overhyped mainstream movies? That’s right I’m talking to you M. Night Shaymalan

    • ahem

      ‘Piracy’ as we know it has been around since the printing press has been around, and even before then, actually – highly paid writers were producing illegal copies of bibles, in those times only certain people could reproduce them legally.
      I believe one of the first victims of music theft was either Mozart or Vivaldi – their sheets were stolen and reproduced and then sold on the black market.
      So no, it will never end. Knowledge just has this…Way about it that always wants to be free or at least incredibly cheap so that anyone can have it.
      My advice to the MPAA is to not take it personal. Its just how things are :)

    • Anonymous

      “Our goal is to keep it under a reasonable level of control where we can make enough revenue in a legitimate market to recoup expenses and continue to make new movies.”

      What a joke. For several years in a row, the movie industry has been making more revenue than it did the previous year. And fighting piracy had nothing to do with that, since the number of pirates has been increasing in tandem with your revenue.

      Fritz Attaway, your excuse fails.

      The real reason you and the MPAA try to fight against filesharing is because you’re simply greedy control-freaks whose fragile egoes can’t stand the thought that anybody could obtain a movie without first having to pay their respects to you obsolete bridgetrolls crossed with robberbarons for the privilege.

      Your organization won’t be as “always with us” as filesharing is, Fritz. You can bet on that. Evolution tends to reject things that don’t serve a purpose.

    • Oli

      Well, at least they realise their efforts are futile. Anyway, them hoping ‘to make reasonable revenue’ etc is just bollocks. If they’re talking about the people they represent (film companies etc), then they’re already making a healthy profit and have done for years.

    • put a fork in me

      its official…I’m bored to death of all of you.

    • Anonymous

      Sooner or later someone (not me) is gonna take it a step further and go shoot these guys. I don’t believe or condone violence against anyone in anyway but I can see it happening.

      The only question ise how long til it happens and what will be the government reaction once this fight spills over into the real world.

    • Anonymous

      ots like getting rid of every single germ.

    • Reggit

      “…admit that piracy will never be completely defeated.”

      - NO SHIT MPAA SHERLOCK!

      “…a very large part of that is developing new business models that consumers will access legally…”

      - BULLSHIT!

      After everything the MPAA has said and done, no matter how much they change – i just dont want to give them any of my money any more.
      I will and do still spend money on entertainment…just not if it has anything to do with egits like the MPAA.

    • Stan.

      Whilst there are corporations that corrupt government with blackmail; bribes, threats and lies, there will be popular resistance. Expect to see piracy, and a much more determined refusal to give up democracy in favour of the alternative corporatocracy.

      Ignore the platitudes of the defeated and incompetent money makers who have tried to undermine the governments of many nations with their greed and obviously understand they are failing in that goal.

      Make every effort you can to make public the corruption of government officials and those corrupt individuals involved in convincing them to adopt corporatism.

      Democracy is about the will of the electorate, not the will of the lazy and corrupt, taking the helm of a nation.

      Trust the these buggers at your peril.

    • FuzzyX

      I do think the MPAA and film industry in general is making slow progress.

      Aiming for quality is the right thing to do when fans do prefer official content.

      The key market they need is to be able to link to unofficial content. Like see HD/3D version here, buy DVD/BluRay, t-shirts, mugs etc.

      Piracy is a market to be tapped but not controlled.

      Many people do buy from the first link they see and most here would agree that people have right to make money from what they create.

      There is obviously a big difference between those who produce works and those who distribute.

      The Internet is the future and some middle ground cooperation would help.

    • lulz

      @20 I’m waiting for that to happen as well… It will not be surprising at all, people die for less.

    • DarknezzFallz

      The people will always be here… you won’t…

    • jovialau

      @19 Thanks so much for your stimulating input!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Freedom

      This is pure bureaucratic drivel. The MPAA and RIAA will continue doing as they please til they gain back every penny that they spent on hindering piracy or they run out of every penny in their pocket fighting it. I am willing to bet its the latter. Remember, knowledge is free and that is what leads to societal progress and innovation; why stop the inevitable?

      I believe the same can be said of patents, as nowadays they have become mere tools of greed rather than provocations of creativity.
      (Read more here: http://www.h-online.com/open/features/Is-Microsoft-running-out-of-steam-1102654.html)

      “Give me liberty, or give me death” – Patrick Henry (1775)

    • frotoe

      wow that person might have a brain in his head or he’s a pirate him self

    • Freedom

      This is pure bureaucratic drivel. The MPAA and RIAA will continue doing as they please til they gain back every penny that they spent on hindering piracy or they run out of every penny in their pocket fighting it. I am willing to bet its the latter. Remember, knowledge is free and that is what leads to societal progress and innovation; why stop the inevitable?

      I believe the same can be said of patents, as nowadays they have become mere tools of greed rather than provocations of creativity.

      “Give me liberty or give me death” — Patrick Henry (1775)

    • Wilson Andrew Bolton

      Nice acting. Apparently people that protect actors are good actors. They even used logic (only slightly flawed) to support their argument. I’m impressed. At least they are more human than the RIAA.

    • anonTriv

      Fuck you MPAA you will burn in hell for taking aritst’s and actors money for hurting them getting their name out there… for that I will never buy another DVD… evar…

    • Ninja

      I’ll never stop downloading stuff. I can’t possibly buy everything or watch everything when airing. I’ll do what I can.

      They still think that if file sharing was reduced to zero ppl would buy everything. I for one would probably buy less due to the lack of a channel to check the whole thing. Great for MAFIAA business huh?

      Keep wasting money on useless actions. We love when you make clowns of yourselves.

    • Tim Kuik

      Good interview. Developing legal internet business models is the number one means to fight piracy. That holds true for any kind of commercially produced (entertaiment) content. At the same time it is necessary to curtail the illegal competition. Rampant piracy on the Internet jeopardizes financing for new production and at the same reduces the willingness to put out good quality digital copies into Internet distribution.

    • momoola

      “Our goal is to keep it under a reasonable level of control where we can make enough revenue in a legitimate market to recoup expenses and continue to make new movies.”

      What do they need to recover, exactly? Pirates don’t steal money, and they don’t steal data (they copy it). Also, you cannot steal money that only exists in the future of an alternate dimension where the artist/business was rewarded with your money for media that they made (which is what potential profit is). The ‘potential profit’ argument makes no sense to begin with. Same with other variations of it.

      What is ‘damaging’ these supposed artists is our illogical capitalistic society which utilizes worthless artificial currency. Until that is fixed, more people than just artists will ‘suffer’. Pirates don’t take or hurt anyone.

    • Anonymous

      Tim Kuik

      Managing Director at BREIN – the art of protecting the creative

      Amsterdam Area, Netherlands

    • Colin

      Pity nobody asked him what he meant by, “new business models”. Does he mean talkies, Technicolor or what?

    • Meh

      Well yeah, as long as piracy is alive they can make a buck on it.

    • anonymous

      “Our goal is to keep it under a reasonable level of control where we can make enough revenue in a legitimate market to recoup expenses and continue to make new movies.”

      Translation:

      “Our goal is to rape as much $$$ from people as possible so we don’t become less rich and YOU don’t get to keep your $$$.”

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    • random pirate

      as my name states, im a pirate too, and i keep downloading movies and songs like crazy and almost never buying one, although i do watch a lot of movies in the cinema. but the thing i keep asking to myself is, how is the people going to make music/movies if they arent paid for it? Sure you can say they do make money just not a lot like they used to, but who are we to decide ho wmuch money they will earn? Piracy has to be changed in some way.

    • Anonymous

      “The pair say that their organization will continue to fight against copyright infringements, but admit that piracy will never be completely defeated.”

      Of course, lawyers have a vested interest in it not going away, don’t they? If it ever does then what will they do to make money?

    • Anonymous

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    • Anonymous

      If the people they tell this don’t know sh*t about piracy, then they can probably achieve great trust and gratitude from those sheeps. But, hey, this is still a slimy and dirty trick to do. All they’re telling the public are well-known facts. They just “hid” them until now.
      Come to think about it, if there was no piracy, then these people would have targeted something else in order to suck blood and not get hungry (although a greedy pig is always hungry no matter how much it eats). Thinking more in general – if there is no crime, we won’t need police, special forces and such. Many people would have been out of job. This is the balance in human society. There is crime and there are people that will fight it (although many of these self-proclaimed knights of justice are in many cases even worse than the most vicious criminals because they have something that a criminal doesn’t have – power from the officials to do their thing). This is how it was, is and always will be. “You can’t change the nature of humans” says your friendly neighbourhood alien E.T.

    • Mike

      Its all about lowering the price of digital products to make it affordable for everyone.

      For example, I dont usually buy games but this week steam is selling L4D and L4D2 together for only $10.19 and it didnt hesistate to pay up for such a great offer. If every game and movie were sold this cheap many pirates I believe could be converted to paying customers.

      The way I see it the industry should first significantly lower prices and after that they can sue people who are still pirating as they are clearly nothing but freeloaders.

    • Wayne

      It would cost, for my family, around £80.00 to go and watch a movie at our nearest cinema. For tickets, travel etc. To download a movie from p2p costs me……. Well, you get the point!

      The way I see it, p2p broadens people’s horizons. How many people discover music / bands on p2p that they had never heard of before, and then go on to buy their music? Quite a few. And for me, I like to see what i’m paying for. Would you buy a car without a test-drive? No. If i like a movie i download then i may well go out and buy it. If not, then it’s the movie companies fault for not making a good enough film!

      File sharing sould be legal anyway. Look at what F.A.C.T says. No unauthorised copying or distribution. Downloaders ned not distribute, and didn’t copy. Its only the release groups’ breaking the law. And my goodness do I thank them for it!

    • Wayne

      It would cost, for my family, around £80.00 to go and watch a movie at our nearest cinema. For tickets, travel etc. To download a movie from p2p costs me……. Well, you get the point!

      The way I see it, p2p broadens people’s horizons. How many people discover music / bands on p2p that they had never heard of before, and then go on to buy their music? Quite a few. And for me, I like to see what i’m paying for. Would you buy a car without a test-drive? No. If i like a movie i download then i may well go out and buy it. If not, then it’s the movie companies fault for not making a good enough film!

      File sharing should be legal anyway. Look at what F.A.C.T says. No unauthorised copying or distribution. Downloaders need not distribute, and didn’t copy. Its only the release groups’ breaking the law. And my goodness do I thank them for it!

    • T.H.E. S.W.A.R.M.

      yes we ain’t going anywhere

      as of this moment ,, tens of thousands of us write new code to maintain our ability to continue sharing ;)

    • I love talking to a brick wall

      piracy ? ? ? ? ? ?

      Filesharing.

      Every time they (rap1sts) get away with using “”piracy”" to describe filesharing…….

      They cum in there pants.

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      2 can play that game !

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      yes … from now……

      Riaa , mpaa ect…. are collectively known as …
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      “” The Media RAP1ST’s “”

    • gimalaji

      With lots of money invested in fighting the so-called “piracy”(sharing information between users) it is normal for them to continue what they are doing now even considering that it seems pointless to most of the people.
      Although if we look at it from another angle we will see that it is a fight between progress and old school business model.People will always find new ways to share information for free as long as they have internet.

    • noko

      Trying to remember here, but didn’t the MPAA pirate a movie for their employees?

    • Anonymous

      “MPAA: Piracy Will Always Be With Us”

      This is correct.

      Not the corporations of entertainment parasites though.

      My Loic is loaded and pointed.

    • Ccombat

      @4

      It’s what they want!

      Criminalization of drugs has lead to a larger profit.
      The banning of ‘Piracy’ to the REAL fringe will have a similar effect, while simultaneously curbing the spread of open-source software.
      (Which arguably took off especially after ease of access through p2p)

    • BenniWest

      I think they are right. Piracy will never go away and will never be defeated. Having said that looking at what was said “Our goal is to keep it under a reasonable level of control where we can make enough revenue in a legitimate market to recoup expenses and continue to make new movies” I think this is pushing the facts into fantasy. Piracy has always exsisted yes it has grown but it has always been there right back to the great days of dodgy VHS recordings when I was a kid. That said they have always had money to make films despite of piracy, so why all of a sudden is piracy losing them money they say its the internet, what about all those dodgy chinese blokes selling dvds in almost every pub??? I believe if you want to moan about piracy focus on it as a whole and stop targeting specific lines. As I understand it you are allowed to own one digital copy of your work even if you download it, well I pay a tv licence and eventually everything ends up on tv so haven’t I already paid for it then???????????????

    • Anonymous

      let consumers download legally with their iphones, pcs, etc and jack up the prices of these hardwares. i’m fine with that

    • Anonymous

      HAHA “new business models that consumers will access legally and find that experience SUPERIOR to illegal access”

    • Anonymous

      dear industry, if you want my money give me tv shows, movies, games, music and all the other stuff available in one and the same internet portal, as soon as released, at the same >reasonable< price worldwide.

      no region delays, no region copyright/price wars. if its a game, give me a trial. if its a tv show, give me the pilot for free to see if i even like the show. if its a movie make it cheap enough so i wont hate myself for wasting money for a good trailer+bad movie experience.

      everything is giving an taking and i dont like to feel stupid and helpless while i get ripped off from an industry who wants something from me as much as i want something from them.

      i am willing to compromise and not one of the die hard, 'i download for free no matter what' people (no offense), but even for me this is all so f*cked up that i feel the industry just doesnt want my money.

      of course the industry wants it all, who doesnt, but this is just not going to work.

      cheers

    • Anonymous

      All the movie industry has to do is stream new movies themselves, just add a few commercials into it like every commercial tv station does.

      Just dont do it liek they do in the US and Sky, with commercials every 15 minutes, 30 minutes is good enough.

      This way ppl will have a choice, high res at a cinema without breaks at the price of a cinema ticket, or low res with breaks for free.

    • surfer

      while on one hand admonishing file sharing’s effect on legitimate business models, and on the other hand raking in eye-popping profits year after year, it makes you wonder how really indifferent the MAFIAA is. There, at all times, must be a straw-man (‘piracy’) that MUST affect the little guy, grips, writers, stage hands, carpenters, ad nauseum. With righteous indignation, the MAFIAA must fight the scurge of the internet file sharer, who denies the little guy food for his family.

      I think with eye-popping, record breaking revenues, year after year, you can give the make-up artists’ a raise, you think?

      Claiming to advance new, improved, and legal digital services on the internet, well, I would love to see one. And don’t for one second reference Hulu or iTunes as quality legal alternatives.

      A quality legal alternative would include any show available, all the way back to 1974, on-demand, no commercials, for a low price. Being as how the MAFIAA will never release control of their catalog, a service like I just described will never exist.

      so fuck you MAFIAA, I will continue to use usenet to get what I want, when I want, for what I want, and you can shove crap movies like Piranha 3D up your collective asses.

      stw

    • Trenton

      @56 Why is that so funny? That is exactly the future we should be looking for. The movie/music industry creating new business models that we consumers find acceptable and even better than our current “illegal” access. Gone are the lame excuses of “you can’t compete with free” and they are apparantly looking for ways to satisfy us, the consumers. How do you beat free? By providing ease of use, high quality, broad selection, no drm, top speads and cheap prices. Until then.. the masses will keep rebelling and use illegal sources.

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    • anon

      has anyone seen these legal alternatives dude is talkin about? looks to me like theyre still trying to control the internet. dont say hulu, hulu is hardly a legal alternative, its 1 of 10 or so sites i have to use to get internet tv. i mean always sunny just started back up, and they take all the episodes off hulu? thats not an alternative guys. i mean i probably watch always sunny on tv shack 10+ hours a week, wouldnt that be some nice ad revenue guys? so instead of just paying us lip service about “legal alternatives” why dont you actually do something. this is the internet, your lies arent the only information we have anymore…

    • Anonymous

      They finally realised its impossible to people people sharing?

      Took them a while.

    • Anonymous

      They finally realized its impossible to people people sharing?

      Took them a while.

    • anon

      MPAA LISTEN TO ME: i am the future. i have no cable, no home phone. i get everything from the internet. i watch ANYTHING i want online, streaming if its new, p2p if its old enough i dont think your watching/caring. the quality is not always best, but the convenience still makes a bad quality recording of a show worth watching online, because the alternative is to wait around until you see fit to bless me with your commercials interspersed with show on cable. THIS IS NOT GOING AWAY, its getting more so. how long do you think until a 100$ HDD can hold enough movies to entertain someone for YEARS? unless you want to disappear, id look into ad supported online watching, and all you can eat online streaming guys, cause were already doing it anyway, and you seem to like money so much. THE INTERNET IS NOT GOING AWAY, BUT YOU COULD!

    • Reason

      I thought aggressiveness is a thing generaly considered to be bad.

      So pointing out one beeing less aggressive (hence more reasonable) than others really has to be understood as a compliment. Instead they took it offensive and argued to be at least as bad as the others.

      Weired world. Let’s punish them till they stop crying.

    • Anonymous

      What they cant seem to get through their head is that there is a window of “Excitement” that people have to want to see a movie, right when it’s released in the theater. However, many, many people either don’t have the time or the energy to go to a theater and see that movie.

      The industry would benefit financially if they capitalized on that “Excitement” window, and made these films available for streaming or download at the same time the movie was released in the theater. The money they spend on advertisement would generate sales for people at home, who never would have made it to the theater.

      The problem with the “Windows” that people have to wait until it comes out on DVD or Netflix (et..) is that people have been saturated with advertisement and word of mouth, so the original appeal of the movie is gone by the time it’s available for home. In other words, the value of the movie has changed in the consumer’s point of view.

      Theaters have a stronghold on the movie industry, and the industry is afraid to do anything that challenges that.

    • anon

      MPAA are going about this in a much cleverer manner than RIAA. They’ve been lucky in that as a result of CDs taking up less disk space than DVDs it took a few years before it was easy to download films after music piracy became so common.

      They’ve seen that the heavy-handed approach of the RIAA didn’t work, and they’ve worked hard to make paying for movies a proposition that you can’t get at home – that’s why there are so many 3D films.

      Also, given the way people consume films and DVDs I think that a streaming rental, priced correctly, will work much better than any of the legal music download options currently available or tried, and the MPAA know this. It’s just a case of waiting for the bandwidth to become available, which it will be at least in the UK in the next couple of years.

      So the MPAA can afford to take a softer line on the issue, but the RIAA are pretty much screwed.

    • Anonymous

      @57 Anonymous

      “dear industry, if you want my money give me tv shows, movies, games, music. . . ”

      Dear industry if you want my money forget it!

      I don’t feed the parasites nor do I negotiate with terrorists.

    • Anonymous

      @67 O anon

      “MPAA are going about this in a much cleverer manner than RIAA. They’ve been lucky in that as a result of CDs taking up less disk space than DVDs it took a few years before it was easy to download films after music piracy became so common.”

      Well. what they should have done is establish the high resolution audio standard such as SACD to replace the old one. People would have got used to this increased sound quality making MP3/WMA less acceptable.

      But no, this greedy parasites wanted everything, took their customer for stupid cow milk with DRM and price that was costing the skin of the butt so it never took off.

      What a pack of mean and stupid morons!

    • an0nymous

      “Copying stuff is never, ever going to get any harder than it is today (or if it does, it’ll be because civilization has collapsed, at which point we’ll have other problems). Hard drives aren’t going to get bulkier, more expensive, or less capacious. Networks won’t get slower or harder to access. If you’re not making art with the intention of having it copied, you’re not really making art for the twenty-first century.”

      – Cory Doctorow

    • me

      What are the legal options for downloading movies?
      I really have no idea at the moment what is available in my country to allow me cheap legal and easy access to high quality up to date movies.

      If there is something then it is not suitably advertised or accessible and so piracy will continue at a large scale until it is.

    • Seeder

      Wow, it only took them about 35 years from when cassette tapes first were popular to finally admit what everyone already knows?

      All that time fretting, and strongarming people, and not spent on figuring out how to monetize free or low cost distribution of music?

      Piracy will always be around because only pirates provide the public with what it wants on terms that are reasonable.

    • whipped

      There is alot to be said for both sides. Who is to decide what’s wrong and what is right. I could see that with lawsuit over the movie “Hurtlocker”, that things were getting out of hand. I don’t want any trouble for myself or family so we bought a Optik Package and are getting Netflix so now we have all the movies and television, and who has time to watch it all. our internet provider is excellent and I can not say enought good about them. They deliver a great service and at a reasonable price, so all is not lost.

      I hope the lawsuit against the people turns out badly for the lawyers involved in the Hurtlocker case.How do you sleep at night? I can think of much better ways to put your education to good use. How about going after polluters and corporate crime. Leave the little guy alone please.

    • PiSexian

      I used to be a great customer, importing VHS tapes, CDi, SVCDs, then DVDs, numerous times I imported from the US, Canada, all over the world. But I had to have my DVD player chipped and re-flashed for 150 Euro to be able to skip the damn irritating anti-piracy advertisements.. Screw them! I’m now a happy PiSexian and I invite everyone to join me at this old, little private tracker http://www.pisexy.org/

    • magneta

      Fuck MPAA, I bought new nokia phone, it has intro videos on it with a big fucking green MPAA globe at the start of the video.

      Its part of our life just like looking at crashed microsuck programs on bank atms or train stations :D

      MPAA doesnt require advertisement cause their shit logo is on 70% of the movies coming out of hollywood. In the future they might just going to show it at the beginning of the movies instead of the end after the credits.

    • Brudda

      These MPAA idiots claim that they are “encouraging the development of new business models that provide legitimate alternatives.” Oh, really?
      The whole reason I got into file sharing 2 years ago was because I couldn’t access what I wanted on the internet. I remember being shocked that I couldn’t pay to stream things like Bugs Bunny cartoons, Hawaii Five-0 episodes, or old film noir. I live in SE Asia and my debit card address is still my old address in the States, so nobody will ship anything to me here in Asia. Why can’t I pay to stream what I want on the internet!?
      These people have failed miserably to provide alternatives!

    • l-form

      @45 I totally agree with you Mike. When companies lower their prices down to a level that most people can afford, then the incentive to pirate is much less. I would much rather have a legal version of a product than an illegal one. If a company sells something that people want at a price they can afford then they are almost certain to make money. As Steam regularly have insane deals on all the time I have bought loads of games from them. They have a great business model, and I have had very few problems using it. Pirating games is more inconvenient for me than it is to just buy it from Steam. I also know that whatever product that I want, Steam will run some crazy deal on it at some point. I don’t have to worry about viruses, legal consequences, and all the other hassles that come with torrents.
      What the music and film industries need to do is create happy customers. However, their prices are so high that people are reluctant to part with their cash, and will obtain their products from illicit sources; their government lobbying and aggressive legal tactics is only driving more potential customers away. Piracy is not just about getting stuff for free, it’s also a political protest against monolithic oligopolies that abuse their power, limit freedom and hinder progress. They need to worry less about losing “potential profits” and more about creating “potential customers”.

    • The Man With The Magic Wand

      Alas, people with mindsets like Fritz Attaway and Craig Hoffman will always be with us. The competitive dark side.

      That’s why we will always need sharing mindsets. The cooperative light side.

    • storm

      You know, I try and look at both sides of things. But all these industries lost my impartiality when they decided that as a musician I cant go to a local pub and play other band’s music.

      Even for free. I cant legally download the chords to my favourite song to play in private anymore(and i dont have the money to buy the books of these songs).

      Hell I also edit video, I made a video for my brothers birthday, A low quality zero budget video that was a bit of fun..i cant upload that to youtube to share with him on his birthday because I used a chili’s song. All these things have been taken away..and yet which one of those things cost the artist or the publisher money??

      We cant share music..music is knowledge. I am scared of whistling the wrong tune in the street, next they will have spies out by campfires making sure people only sing non copyright songs LOL. they can sound as mature as they like, they are trying to control this situation. they are controlling people and trying to hide knowledge. Life just doesn’t work that way. How is it hollywood..an american film company has a grip that can squeeze the world?

      Fuck em and all the sppeches, these are money makers..it’s not about lost money it’s about charging for anything and everything. you think they wouldn’t charge for air if they could find the excuse?

      bastards.

      The only thing i wanna hear them say is ” we quit”, the ONE thing i know they will never say.

      keep on sharing baby , cause knowledge is too expensive these days

    • A NON

      @54 i agree

    • Billy

      It seems to me that newer business models are designed to drive their customers away.

      As things stand, I have two reasonable options.
      1) Pay to download a movie, laden with all kinds of DRM and restrictions.
      or
      2) Download anything I want for nothing with no restrictions whatsoever.

      I have always found it a little ironic that media business’s are so keen to penalise the very people who are willing to pay them.
      I can understand that these companies do not want people who purchase a movie releasing it for all and sundry across the internet, but these people need to get real. These movies are already available for free in all their full HD or even 3D quality (Yes – it is perfectly possible to rip a 3D blu-ray disk and play it back on a 3dtv).

    • A Victim

      I always found it ironic some consumers want to destroy the creators of what they consume.

      Yes, piracy will always be with us. As will shoplifting, drunk driving and many other disgusting, selfish actions.

    • Anonymous

      If you force people to develop a filesharing method that can’t be tracked and dwarfs torrents in scale… It is your own fault.

    • Anonymous

      “Yes, piracy will always be with us. As will shoplifting, drunk driving and many other disgusting, selfish actions.”

      Killing an entire corporation of parasites would not be a selfish action.

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    • HonestCitizen

      Huh! I never realised that stealing had become so socially acceptable on the Internet until I read all these rather unpleasant posts. Although I shouldn’t be surprised, with the disgusting “I deserve everything for free” benefits culture we have these days. :(

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