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MPAA Worries About Pirating U.S. Soldiers in Iraq

While U.S. men and women put their lives at risk in Iraq, the MPAA has queried the military about the pirating habits of the soldiers stationed there. A declassified document from United States Central Command confirms that the MPAA is fighting a war of its own in the Middle East, one against copyright infringing soldiers.

It is no secret that the MPAA is involved in an ongoing battle against copyright infringers in the United States. Tens of thousands of copyright notices are sent out each year informing illegal file-sharers that they are breaking the law.

Less known are the movie industry’s efforts to clamp down on copyright infringers who are defending their country’s interests on foreign soil. Because the availability of legal movies and TV-shows is limited in countries such as Iraq, soldiers sometimes use BitTorrent to get their fix, or buy pirated DVDs from local sellers.

The MPAA is not happy with these defiant soldiers. A declassified document from the United States Central Command shows that, a few years ago, the MPAA asked the military what they do to prevent soldiers from accessing pirated DVDs in Iraq.

One of the questions posed by the MPAA is whether they have banned U.S. troops from going to stores that sell pirated DVDs. The Central Command answered this question negatively, as it would hurt the business of Iraqi salesmen.

“No….banning our troops from visiting these shops would have the unwelcome secondary effect of harming Iraqi entrepreneurs selling legitimate goods.” They add that there is nothing they can do about DVDs that are being sold on Iraqi property because these stores fall under Iraqi law.

The declassified CENTCOM document (full pdf)

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The document does state, however, that selling pirated DVDs on US bases is not permitted. It further says that piracy could be reduced by giving soldiers access to legal forms of entertainment.

“U.S. forces have had a long-standing, positive relationship with the entertainment industry. Working to continue this relationship, including the provision of popular entertainment like first-run movies, concerts and other events will help to curtail the demand for pirated media,” it states.

Pirated DVDs are not the only worry for the MPAA as more recently military personnel have also been using BitTorrent to access U.S. entertainment on foreign bases. A military insider told TorrentFreak that they see no other option than to ‘pirate’, as the entertainment industry gives them little opportunity to enjoy digital media legally.

“We have sent letters to the RIAA and the MPAA repeatedly letting them know that our downloads are a direct representation of their failure to allow us to be good consumers as others in the US can be,” our military insider explained.

Instead of holding out a helping hand to deployed soldiers, the entertainment industries continue to treat them as criminals. On a daily basis, the MPAA and RIAA send copyright notices to military personnel via their base ISPs. In turn, the personnel are threatened with account suspension and in serious cases, disconnection.

At the same time Hollywood continues to exploit military conflicts with hit shows like The Pacific and Oscar-winning movies such as The Hurt Locker. Ironically, The Hurt Locker centers around a friendship between a heroic soldier and a young Iraqi boy who sells pirated DVDs at a U.S. base.

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  • Matthew

    Oh god MPAA, give them a break. They are risking their life’s for you. BTW first

  • webcrawler

    they’ll never learned.

  • Tom

    I used to pirate because I couldn’t afford CDs and DVDs on my student loans. Now that I’m coming up on finishing my studies, I’m pretty sure I’m going to continue pirating CDs and DVDs from all MPAA/RIAA members on pure principle.
    Indie music and movies I already pay for. Oh, and concerts of course.

  • bleh

    Only death will cure an idiot, in this case, the idiot is the MAFiAA

  • Peter

    “Oh god MPAA, give them a break. They are risking their life’s for you.”

    Really ?
    I didn’t know the MPAA was in the oil-stealing and reconstruct-what-we-bombed business .
    Are they a subsidiary of Halliburton or something ?
    Since the US-troops are there to loot Iraq, why not loot some free entertainment between the child-killing ??

  • Torin050

    I can’t say that this behavior of the MPAA is surprising. What else do you expect them to do? Be a awesome company and provide more ways to obtain media, for cheaper prices then their current draconic ones? Ahahaha! What a dream…

  • HippieFee

    They have nothing better to do than go after American’s defending their rights as they sit in ivory towers. The MPAA/RIAA needs to change their dinosaur business models and compete with pirates, not try to fight them. This cat and mouse game will go on forever.

  • SomeGuy

    I swear, the word “draconian” is used so many times, I think the people who use it don’t even know what it means at this point.

    Lol.

    Also, how are soldiers in Iraq defending our rights? The invasion was an act of aggression. You guys are so fed by the government’s propaganda.

  • dogod01

    @ Peter

    You are a complete & total idiot. Actually, calling you an idiot is an insult to all the idiots in the world, so you are below an idiot…Shall we say moron?
    Whether you agree with what the government is doing there or not, It’s not the soldiers that are responsible for it. They go where they are told and do what they are told.
    Go climb back under the rock you came from.

  • Anonymous

    It’s funny that no one offers them a legal way to get DVDs because obviously there is a huge demand for them.

  • Chris

    Hmm, copyright mafia vs illegal occupying force? Who to root for?

  • Dan

    OH MY GOD – HAVE THEY NO RESPECT WHATSOEVER?

  • Nick

    Jesus Christ, have they nothing better to do honestly?

    There are thousands of solider’s out there fighting for our country’s and all the MPAA can worry about is them sitting down for a few hours to chill out and watch a few movies.

    This makes me sick of the MPAA that all they can do is go after those who fight for us. I think the MPAA need to be put out in Iraq and made to do what those who are fighting for us are doing and see how they feel.

  • Zush

    For shame! They should be murdering, torturing, pillaging and raping, just like any good soldier. But pirating? Oh America, what’s happening to thee?

  • TerribleTony

    So soldiers like crap movies too? No surprise there.

  • anon2

    may i suggest a role reversal for the members of the MPAA and those in the armed forces? let them serve in Iraq, or any other war torn country and the soldiers be withdrawn to worry about copyright infringement. i wonder who would be complaining first, most and over exactly what? i’ll take a chance and say the soldiers would be complaining least!

  • Soldier Boy

    Is a military base considered US soil? If they download music on another countries soil, and if that country does not recognize US copyright laws then how is it illegal

  • dfgg

    maybe a new low, but i doubt it.

  • anonymous

    i suppose that if they have no luck with this complaint, they will want to procede further by taking the US military to court, then the Pentagon, then Obama, then the whole US. i wonder how many appeals they would put in when they kept failing? until they and similar, were closed down completely, i assume. i think it would be the best road to take now, rather than keep waiting!!

  • Dave

    Aww, poor baby soldiers can’t get some entertainment to ease the stress of their mercenary work? Too bad, but frankly I couldn’t care less. It’s not like being a US soldier means protecting their country or rights for about and and a half century.

    @dogod01 Since the US never had a war even near their home country during the 20th century, if you sign up, that’s clearly for the money or because you are brainwashed by propaganda.

  • Dominic

    Problem with these Piracy Groups is the fact that they know even if they try taking any subsidary of the U.S government to court, the court will rule in the country’s favour. So instead, they try and make them out to be the bad guys.

  • Doink

    @13
    “For shame! They should be murdering, torturing, pillaging and raping, just like any good soldier.”

    they are doin those disgusting things.

    line em up and bring out the firing squad.

  • Anonymous

    The MPAA is disgusting even if they had a legal alternative would they have the money there? I’m under the impression they don’t get it when they’re overseas.

  • Spind

    so, they risk they asses in order to protect them, and what is their ”thanks”?

    A cease and desist letter?
    And then i thought for a moment that those SOBs couldnt get any worse… i wont make that mistake again.

  • army mom

    REALLY?????? THEY ALREADY HAVE TO PAY FOR PHONE CALLS HOME, INTERNET AND ECT….CAN’T YOU GIVE THEM A FRIGGIN BREAK. MAYBE THE MPAA SHOULD GO OVER AND STAND IN FRONT OF THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE COMPLYING?

  • dogod01

    @ Dave
    And the reason there has never been a war near US soil during the 20th century? Because it was never left to get that far.
    Sounds to me like YOU are the one brainwashed by propaganda.

  • Anonymous

    You’ve really got to be kidding me, the US has better things to worry about then this.

  • Canuck

    I just lost all respect for them…

    Seriously, why are they allowed to live?

  • Anonymous

    Wow, they’re really getting desperate now.
    Seems like the MAFIAA is more concerned about winning anything than actually protecting the copyright laws.

    They should sue musicians and movie studios for producing goods that people want to see! It’d be a win/win, musicians and movie studios would be able to pay using the spare change in their couches, and the MAFIAA would have actually won something so they might back off for a bit.

  • LMFAO

    @dogod01: plz get your head out of your a55.
    It hurts my brain (and i’m sure others’ too) to read your uber propaganda crap.

    US went there to LOOT and PILAGE Iraq oil. Common knowledge to the whole world except the 0,00001% of brainwashed idiots like you.

  • Anon

    Can’t blockbuster or netflix send military loads of free DVDs ? Or rather shouldn’t Hollywood give them free stuff ?

  • s

    @29, go get yourself shot then.

    MPAA, you are disgusting as usual. Go to the 4th circle of hell where you belong, and rot there.

  • Arb

    new low, yea maybe but we’ve seen the mpaa and riaa sink lower and lower that it really not surprising when they sink even more.

  • dogod01

    @ LMFAO

    You are the one with you’re head in your ass, & you make ME LMFAO.
    The US isn’t getting any more oil from Iraq then it ever did. Also, the majority of US oil imports don’t come from Iraq.

    http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/import.html

    Get your facts straight. You people that defend Hussein & all his cronies make me sick. He was a tyrant & a murderer who enjoyed genocide, the mass graves that were found was proof of that…But oh, I guess those were just imaginary I’m sure. I guess you would have been quite happy to see him possibly become the next Hitler.I’m sure that would make you & people like you as content as a pig in shit.

  • Obsolete RIAA

    Why are not the MPAA executives in jail?

    I mean, are not greed and extortion against their own citizens a crime?

    why is the Obama administration openly supporting this shit?

  • Editor

    It cant get any better…

  • Nobody

    What a bunch of crap. No matter what your views of the Middle East combat is, these people are our friends and family who are getting killed for us, and they’re more worried about a random soldier ripping off a movie? That’s just disgusting.

  • me

    Pirating isn’t illegal there or in Afghanistan

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  • Obsolete RIAA

    Boycott is the answer…

    DON’T BUY any of the products from RIAA and MPAA.

    DON’T GO to the cinema.

    Don’t support corporate terrorism…

  • LMFAO

    @doggie: i’ll be happy when all US “soldiers” that are in Iraq “defending” their poor country from “evil terrorists” get bombed to hell and are returned home in pieces.

    ’cause y’see, mercenaries that fight and kill civilians for money deserve that

    where were those weapons of “mass destruction” again?

    then you wonder why people all over hate poor US of A.

  • aaa

    thats great, i hope us army will invade mpaa headquarters, and kill those bastards

  • Ben Hurr

    So regardless of the legitimacy of the US occupying Iraq, these military men have been telling the MPAA that if they just give them a means to purchase this stuff properly they’ll gladly pay, so the MPAA punches them in the balls.

    How is driving away customers good business sense again?

  • BlueSamurai

    This is fucking ridiculous.

    Do they expect the Soldiers to Order DVDs and get them shipped to Iraq? In between getting their legs amputated and shit.

  • dogod01

    @ LMFAO

    People all over don’t hate the US…Just people like you.
    And there was plenty of time for any traces of WMA’s to be removed long before there was any search for them. But whatever…Haters will continue to hate.Your comment about soldiers being sent home in pieces proves that…What a goddamn ignorant thing to say. And you say the US is bad?
    What a fucking hypocrite lol.
    I’m done…no more debating with senseless morons.

  • Your Mom

    @ 4 GFY you pOS

  • gigi

    My friends u r missing the point. Yes, the US is a global aggresive empire just like the soviets or other empires before them. That doesn’t mean that the majority of the soldiers go to war because they want to. They r a few psychos that enjoy war but the average soldier goes before corrupt leaders order him to or stage a whole propaganda system to push the man’s patriotism in order to achieve the big boy’s ends. War is means death to ordinary people because the big boys with their expensive desks can’t settle their quests for power and money.
    I hate the american empire like everyone on the planet, but i do understand what it is to be a soldier send to serve the interests of powerful people.
    The american commanders should be very rough on MPAA, because the army protects the american interests that means MPAA interests also. If i where american command i would show a little muscle and shove that paper up their lawyers asses.

  • HOTHOTHOT

    — swear at first i thought they were saying US Soldiers were being pirated- –

  • Anonymous

    treason much?

  • ConcernedCitizen

    a) Copyright laws are the codification of a simple, moral precept: Stealing is wrong. b) Even good and right things can be exploited. c) The RIAA and MPAA have exploited copyright law.

    The companies that make up the RIAA and MPAA are holding us ransom so they can pay entertainment talents millions of dollars as compensation for their artistic works.

    The solution to all of this is to stop buying any product from companies associated with the RIAA and MPAA. When the market for their products evaporates, they will take a more realistic view towards what is paid to artists and what is extracted from us to pay them.

    As has been pointed out above, piracy will never go away. The way for the producers to get paid for what they copyright is to make it more affordable. Most of us would willingly pay a few dollars in order to download a bug-free, good quality movie legally. But, I refuse to pay US$15 to see a movie in a theater once, US$20 to buy a recent movie on DVD or a similar amount to get one tune I want and 12 I never want to hear.

    The problem is the price of the copyrighted material is way out of line compared to its value… that’s why we pirate tunes and movies; stealing is a logical economic response to the problem of over-priced products in the marketplace.

    Just stop buying from RIAA or MPAA members and this problem will eventually fix itself.

  • mack

    to the person asking about us bases, yes they are our soil, and thereby abide by our laws. also it specifically says they ban the sell of pirated crap on base.

  • Anonymous

    If I was the MPAA I will leave these soldiers alone because one day they are going to come back home.

    Already they are foolishly risking it all at home,enraging too many citizen but they are to stupid to understand this.

  • lee

    There are quite a few MSCs with limited or no defenses…

  • Seasoned Goat

    this is the lowest mpaa you dont bilk the troops for money….

    @4 and 29

    no more tv/internet/media for you guys its obviously rotted your brains so badly that you believe anything your told….

  • Anonymous

    “One of the questions posed by the MPAA is whether they have banned U.S. troops from going to stores that sell pirated DVDs. The Central Command answered this question negatively, as it would hurt the business of Iraqi salesmen.”

    I can not wait to see the MPAA suing the “central command” for assisting in copyright infringement to see what will happen next. Jdam bomb anyone?

  • Anonymous

    “I didn’t know the MPAA was in the oil-stealing and reconstruct-what-we-bombed business .
    Are they a subsidiary of Halliburton or something ?”

    No. They are worst.

    Haliburton do not threaten our democracy nor our future.

  • Anonymous

    the MPAA is nothing less than a pack of traitors.

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  • lee

    4/20/2008

  • SomKen

    Fuckers. The men and woman in Iraq / were ever should get a pass on this. They’re living, well most of them, like everyday is their last. With that on you, it’s not easy to live without a distraction. AKA, music and movies. When will the MPAA / RIAA / whoever get this? Music and movies are going to be pirated NO MATTER WHAT.

    Oh, good point on the Hurt Locker kid. What are they trying to pull? “We can say we’re pirating movies to men and woman in Iraq. But, you can’t really do it.” The fuck, MPAA? Does that make any sense? Oh ya, you’re just hypocrites. My bad!

  • iss

    Even if US base is under American law it should be perfectly legal to go outside, where foreign law is in rule and buy copies of DVD movies which are legal according to local law.

  • RIAAtarded

    Yeah I’m sorry but screw you MPAA. They have asked for ways to get this stuff legally and you have ignored them all together which quite frankly is more then a lot of others have done. Basically your spitting in the face of our service men and woman. They are good enough to fight and die for you freedoms which apparently includes the right to chase frivolous lawsuits. There is a bigger picture here. If after spending a day getting shot at, blown up and watching friends die these guys want to watch a shit movie before they are thrown in harms way again I think not only should you let them but you should bloody well be donating the material to them in the first place. That would seem like the very least you could do. Your worried about the lost sale of a lousy 20$ DVD. They are worried about losing their lives. See the difference.

  • DeltaPan

    These negative corporate entities really don’t give a frack about anybody but themselves do they.

    I don’t know why governments continue to allow these power and money mad sociopaths to whittle power away from the governments where each year that goes by it is those right wing corporates who have the power and are ending up controlling governments and trying to bring about a fascist dimension to even socialist governments.

    If governments don’t take their power back and tell these corporates where to get off.

    Governments will wake up one day and find corporates are in control, not governments.

    And governments here in the UK with the outgoing Labour as much as the USA and all federal nations everywhere are letting them do it, the new order will not end up as governments envision, as some of the brightest visionaries and intellectuals in history have worked hard to shape, but a new world order of corporate fascism will have dominion over the world, it’s happening bit by bit as governments allow themselves to be manipulated by corporate lobby.

    Governments should check the language in what they are passing on behalf of these corporates as well, properly interpret the legal syntax, i think they’ll find they are signing away much more than they realise, if governments don’t start putting corporations back in their boxes, governments will find they have been manipulated out of all ability to actually govern.

    They should also seek out the subversives that walk among them and motivated by wealth and power, are manipulating the switch of government power to corpoarates from within, it’s a very real domestic threat, governments have been infiltrated for a long time now and there are those among them working to an obvious agenda and governments around the world are not seeing it yet, are letting it happen.

    Yes, it’s a complete liberty take, the fact they are picking on the military, as i’ve said, civil services, police forces, health services etc etc etc, all levels of society, all walks of life, these corpoates are being given the authority to press buttons and cause utter chaos in peoples lives and that includes those in governments, their public services and civil servants, military, acadamies and universities, the lot, will all suffer when governments naively change more and more laws on behalf of these corporates and so many key personnel are then subject to economic adversity through prosecutions along with so many non governmental populations, which will start to make machinations of states fall apart as people lose the will to exist, so many people will be Owned by corporates and made to suffer, people will not be able to take the amount of economic adversity, it’s bad enough the way things are with rising cost of living etc, once corporates get their way, it will push society in many nations over the edge.

    one doesn’t have to be a seer to perceive the consequences of allowing corporations as much power they are getting, governments had better wake up before it’s too late and corporate power is consolidated and only wars with private armies against armies of nations can regain the balance for governments.

    Give it a decade or so, that’s going to be the only way governments can regain power from corporations, if the powers being given to them, the laws being altered to favour them, continue.

    The gods forbid corporations ever gain possession of nukes, considering how many warheads are missing and security services know main terrorist groups haven’t got them, they have just vanished, nobody knows if some corpoate paramilitary force has possession of them, we know they have been building private armies etc, i wouldn’t put it past them, not for a minute!

    Peace. : )

  • CFultz

    If a soldier can die for his country in some far away land, how is fair for him to be monitored by some suits in an office back home about his downloading habits? Fuck off mpaa, #realshit

  • dek

    @4, yes you peter.

    Shut up, and stop turning this into a war debate. I don’t care about the people in Iraq just like you don’t care about the solders there (which, i happen to not care about ether) Simply put, it doesn’t influence me so why should i give a shit. But MPAA complaining that they don’t make enough money from solders that signed up to protect their country is ridiculous.

  • BeN

    It does not matter if the war in Iraq is justified, only what matters is that they simply have no legal access to those medias so who really can blame them for wanting to watch them.
    Wasn’t entertaining the troops in earlier wars a priority?

    Best I can come up to answer the whole matter is a quote:

    “Let us not assassinate *our troops* further, *MPAA*. You’ve done enough. Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?”

    Joseph Welch (Army–McCarthy hearings)

  • BIOS

    Would it be so bad if copyright law just didnt apply to them while they are fighting for our country. They want to pay for this stuff, but they can’t. Until you can provide appropriate availability to them (and us) they (and we) will continue to pirate. Give me an only store where I can buy movies on the cheap and download them at anytime for the rest of my life (ie Steam). I am even OK with Steam’s DRM (although it wouldn’t hurt if it was gone). I just want some easy way to get what I want. If you (MPAA) can provide the materials I want (movies, music, etc) in a way that is actually more convenient than torrenting (search click download) at the right price, I will never pirate again.

  • 1000blabbities

    Hah. Now this is awesome. I will actually say that indeed the MPAA (and businesses in general) has/have ignore servicemembers when it came to distribution of material to service members that are overseas.

    When I was in Iraq, we basically functioned on “pirated” materials. thats in quotations because technically it’s Iraq or Afghanistan or Korea or wherever where American copyright laws dont apply. So, it’s not like A) The MPAA has enforceable means to act in a different country which ignores them B) Anybody really gave a damn since business tend not to give a damn about those oveseas.

    I remember trying to legally get Hitman Contracts or whatever to play on my off-duty time in order to pass the time. I tried to order from Amazon, and they denied shipping it to me. Pretty much they have some sort of regional contracts or something. This happened with not only software goods but also electronics and things as simple as hair clippers.

    I ended up by the “pirated” version of the game from the Iraqi shop for like 5 bucks…do you understand that’s a great deal thats 10% of the retail price. The publishers definitely lost out, by placing arbitrary limitations. Which brings me to another point, the affordability of things in an overseas zone is def better than buying it in America, which is another incentive to buy from locals rather than import from America. Movies are generally 2 dollars alot of times if not free.

    http://blabbities.tumblr.com

  • DeltaPan

    Pardon me, just noticed i’ve missed several ‘R’s in corporate as my fingers input too fast, seem to have missed repeatedly, must fix that keyboard inputting glitch, proofread, proofread, proofread, how many times do i have to remind myself, honestly, i don’t know, *sigh*, lol’s.

    Peace. : )

  • Good Stuff

    GOOD!!!! Pirating soldiers should face a court martial and be executed. THIEVES GET WHAT THEY DESERVE!!!!!!!!

  • Trelew

    The MPAA and their ilk should be shot and pissed on for harassing the military like this. They went over to protect the lives from terrorism.

    I think the next target of the military should be the corporations. They have terrorized the public with the threat of civil laws suits. They have corrupted courts and governments so that they can have corporation-friendly legislation passed. Is this for the good of the people? Hell No! It’s so that the corporate elite can wallow in their greed and gain more power to do what they want to.

  • Ang3r

    LOL @ asking hired killers to obey foreign copyright law…

  • DeltaPan

    Vince Mc Mahon and WWE corporate have always been fair, i’ve said on XWT years ago i honestly think they see the feedback they get from those who download their shows and the statistical analysis of their shows on Bit Torrent as more important than the minimal loses.

    OK. Vince’s show persona can be a bit manic but he’s actually a very decent person.

    WWE corporate give free access to shows for anybody military, give away merchandise etc, appreciate what the American military do.

    So perhaps the WWE could get involved to pressure the MPAA et al, to be a damn site fairer, to our troops here in the UK as well, the European allied forces and in fact all ruddy military.

    If they don’t play ball, perhaps those on the executive board can be invited to do a celebrity host on RAW, one at a time, if ye get what i mean, give ‘em to Sheamus, Kane etc, see how much they want to be unfair to soldiers after being in a ring with them, like if they lose to a wrestler, each one has to change their minds about treading on soldiers regards copyright and sign a contract after the match agreeing to a non civil action against military personnel primary clause.

    Well, we can all dream can’t we, be good though, wouldn’t it.

    Peace. : )

  • Cords

    They really disgust me. It’s just too much.

    1) The USA should not BE in these wretched countries in the first place!!

    2) Can they at least show SOME respect to their own armed forces…

  • Anonymous

    The war in Iraq is based on the same principles as the mission of the MPAA RIIA: — GREED –

    Maybe the US army is getting what it deserves, but the regular soldiers are not to blame.

    Money grabbing capitalism stinks, whether it’s in Afghanistan or Hollywood.

  • Soundwave

    Oh cool, you can watch hit movies on a computer!

    Oh, there’s generally no legal way to do that? How curious.

  • inbed

    Maybe the reason MAFIAA is still tolerated is because they are in bed with our elected officials.

    How to fix that?

  • cancerchrist

    money hungering whores

  • Thraprod

    The WWE is also the only group that still continues the work of like Bob Hope and Marylin Monroe and goes TO countries of conflict to entertain the troops with their annual Tribute to the Troops show. What happened to the days when entertainers did this? Why did it stop?

    Whether the conflict is right or wrong is not relevant to the issue.

  • [Generic hipster.]

    [Generic anti-American sentiment full of half truths and outright lies.]
    [Insults for those who disagree with me, in addition to those who don't support the exact same ideas I do.]
    [Unintentional logical fallacies used to support my nonsensical and extremely wear argument.]
    [Closing insults about how anyone who disagrees with my position is one of the sheep.]
    [Smug sense of superiority.]

  • stormy

    why won’t these guys just fuck off. jesus christ.

  • Anonymous

    just because they’re soldiers doesn’t mean they’re above the law.

  • Brandon

    “We have sent letters to the RIAA and the MPAA repeatedly letting them know that our downloads are a direct representation of their failure to allow us to be good consumers as others in the US can be,”

    That about says it all right there. I bet 99% of the military over there use bittorrent instead of buying some hacky iraqi pirated came movie…

  • lol

    You guys are tards really you are.
    @72 thats the most intelligent comment on this whole point

  • Your Mom

    @72 and 74 you can GFY. What law are they above? They’re in sovereign nation that has no law against downloading copyrighted material. So GFY fags.

  • Brandon

    @72 Your just a troll…

  • Anonymous

    This really just made me lol.

  • Anonymous

    so many idiots talking about whos right and whos wrong (america vs iraq etc). thats is NOT the point u morons!

    the issue here is very clear: americans are dying, many for what they believe in, and some piece of shit US group is worried about their OWN POCKETS!!!

  • ha

    @dogod1

    you know who else went where they were told and did what they were told? The Nazis. and the Nuremburg trials decided that “just following orders” isnt an excuse.

    and since you mention Hussein, you do know that it was the U.S. and the CIA who first put Hussein in a position of power.

    same thing with Bin Ladin. but oh no, once they decide to do what they want instead of “just following orders” suddenly we denounce them.

    I am an American and it doesnt take much effort to go to a library and read up on these things. they arent hidden, but UBER AMERICAN flag waving im sure can take up valuable time that would be better spent learning what your country has really done.

    and to keep it simple, so what if theyre soldiers? so what if theyre in iraq?

    do other nations not have their own copyright laws? do the mpaa and affiliates take FOREIGN isps to court to get judgments against them?

  • Anonymous

    @71 – Hilarious, silly, all of these hip keyboard warriors.

  • not your mom

    @75 … “They’re in a soverign nation that has no law against downloading copyrighted material.”

    That’s funny. So then all those countries that have laws saying downloading of copyrighted material isn’t illegal shouldn’t be bothered by the MPAA and affiliates right? Oh wait, they are being bothered. Hence all the court cases against ISPs and what have you. You know, the court cases being instigated by the RIAA/MPAA. Those countries have their laws, which don’t suit some, so they’re taken to court. I guess “the laws” only apply when they’re convenient to some.

    Please don’t speak again about that kind of thing. Cause if you want to get into it about the laws of other countries or lack their of, then perhaps corporations in the United States should respect the laws of those sovereign nations. I.E. the laws that in some places say downloading is okay as long as it’s not for monetary gain.

  • jimono

    what i really dont understand is why no one is hacking/ ddosing those bastards at RIAA,MPAA and all the other copyright organisations? i would if had even the slightest clue how!

  • HOTHOTHOT

    do people really read the essays and novels on here ?

  • slap

    this is pretty ridiculous. i was stationed on a remote FOB in Iraq and literally the only form of media entertainment we had access to was the hadji shop that sold pirated DVDs, computer games and music. they need to focus on something else besides messing with soldiers.

    and yes a US FOB is considered US soil. it’s kind of like an embassy in a sense.

  • Your Mom

    @81 I am not saying the RIAA/MPAA can’t bother anyone, they can bother whoever the fuck they want. The truth is anyone who is file-sharing there isn’t breaking any local or military laws. The MAFIAA just wants the military to punish soldiers who file-share. The military wont do this because it would hurt morale.

    All you faggot, anti-war, douches STFU. This is about the MAFIAA and their power, and isn’t about your thoughts on how AMERICA IS SO EVIL.

  • HOTHOTHOT

    1) no one cares about ur pizza pocket opinions

    2) u dont run a country ,prob cant even run ur own house

    3) countries did this since the roman times what makes u tink anything changed

    4) stay on topic

    5) dont write novels on torrentfreak

  • Anonymous

    That is BS.. they are over there fighting and dieing for their country. And these azzholes are worried about them downloading a song or a movie.

  • Tom

    ““Oh god MPAA, give them a break. They are risking their life’s for you.”

    Really ?
    I didn’t know the MPAA was in the oil-stealing and reconstruct-what-we-bombed business .
    Are they a subsidiary of Halliburton or something ?
    Since the US-troops are there to loot Iraq, why not loot some free entertainment between the child-killing ??”

    Hey, heres a thought! STFU YOU PUSSY ASS HIPPY! and while your at it, go ahead and say that to the 3,000 ppl’s familys from the twin towers who lost their lives because of these f*******s. what their doing over there, i completely support. shits gettin overpriced. guys want some movies or whatever in between risking THEIR F******G LIVES! then so be it! im sure the MPAA isnt losing to much money now…..i mean, ya know. its not like everybody else in America isnt poor or anything………….dumbass…

  • VPN

    If only they would learn to change there business model to suit these new CUSTOMERS! get a nice large stage, a nice digital projector, lots of seats some popcorn and what do you get? Happy PAYING customers.

  • Peter

    Greed only knows one colour and it’s green not red.

  • Anonymous

    oh Tommy, by “f*****s” are you referring to the Iraqis? who had nothing to do with the twin towers falling. or are you referring to Al Qaeda (a.k.a. not the Iraqis) who did have something to do with the twin towers? its two different groups of people were bombing. only one of which had anything to do with New York.

    so do you support destroying the home of lots of innocent Iraqis all because of one loon (Saddam)?

    im not a hippy, but id rather be one than someone who supports that kind of thinking.

  • temp.no.home

    To much trolling on this topic. Basically, there are two groups of people, true pirates (with gift of a brain) and those who can’t differentiate one part (MAFIAA) of imperialistic agenda from another (Iraq occupation). I do respect ordinary US citizens as they are the first in line to start fighting the oppression, that is upon us all. Then you will show to the world your true patriotism. When the shit hits the fan, you will know what to do. For now, I would like to see, irc chat page on The Pirate Bay for “MAFIAA and US troops only” to settle their dispute. /joke for no-brainers.

    plonk:killfile //no disrespect to you Ernesto//

  • gorehound

    I have a few things to say:
    1.I don’t support the war in Iraq and I do think it was wrong in the way we went there but we are not talking about the folks who ordered this war to happen.We are talking about normal americans who are serving in the military and are being harassed by Hollywood.

    2.The behavior by Hollywood and MPAA shows one more reason why you should not be buying any new products from them.Do a boycott.I am doing that.Just find stuff used and keep money from Hollywood.

    3.this post was not meant to be about US killing this person or that.It was meant for us to discuss the low ways that MPAA act towards its potential customers.

  • Anonymous

    dear all of the soldier hating equally liberally brainwashed people,

    Last time I checked when I was in Iraq last year downloading every movie and TV show I wanted to see via bit torrent. I was not killing any babies, or stealing any oil. I was doing what I was told, when I was told to do it, while you where at home bitching about your double mocha latte being cold.

    you sit here in this forum hiding behind your computer screen, accusing me of being some sort of baby killing blood thirsty crazy. I am willing to bet my watch and warrant that if we were not proactive in our military engagements and we actually waiting for the fight to be own our soil, and you couldn’t get your perfect coffee from start bucks and there were people trying to blow your a55 up, your story would change pretty quick and you would be begging us to engage and destroy the enemy.

    its OK though we have a thing called free speech in this country and you can say all of the most ridiculous stuff you want. just try and remember your not better than anyone because you don’t have to get your hands dirty. your just as responsible for the babies dieing over there as I am. you vote, your American and you pay the taxes that buys the bombs. so go f yourself.

    BTW i was able to DL over a 90 GB’s on my 128K (15-16kb/sec) sniperhill connection

  • Afghanistan Deployed

    The bases that have a PX (post Exchange) DO Actually Carry CDs and DVDs. Unfortunately it usually consits of like 500 Copies of Twilight, another 500 of some other new movie everyone has already seen, and then a buch of crappy B movies nobody Wants to see. The music selection is Miniscule and never any good unless you are really into some tweenie band or something. As for me being stuck on a pretty small base in the middle of nowhere, Bit Torrent and Other Soldiers are about the only two ways to get any movies or music. The RIAA/MPAA can Suck It.

  • Umm….

    Just to point out to everyone ranting about Iraq. We have military bases all over the world. I have a friend stationed in Germany. This isn’t just an issue in the middle-east. There are a lot more people affected by this all over the world.

  • Solution:

    I will personally seed to soldiers stationed overseas if it means they can download their movies a little faster.

    This is just proof the MAFIAA is your typical badly-run business. Even from an evil standpoint, it’s just stupid to go after soldiers; they’ll always have that “oh btw I was getting shot at for you” ace in the hole counter-argument.

  • Anonymous

    @100
    two things:
    first: that was precisely what some of these “soldier hating equally liberally brainwashed people” needed. No one can possibly, accurately generalize a group of people like that and anyone who tries is just prejudicial. Soldiers do their job, which is to obey the orders of elected officials.

    second: I respect your ability to get 90gb over a connection that slow (and likely unreliable).

  • disgusted

    @ poster 5, Peter.

    Shame on you sir, you disrespect your own troops who are doing a fine job of defending you, their work over there allows you to go about your daily life without fear in the USA, you have no idea of the evil that they’re defending you from (The Islamic Caliphate continued), and you disown and belittle them whilst they stand on the wall guarding you. SHAME ON YOU.

    The MAFIAA’s PR department needs to be “put down”, oh wait, leave them be as they’re doing a fine job of shooting themselves in the foot by going after soldiers,

  • Durp

    @5

    Oil stealing? China got the biggest contracts in Iraq…

  • Uncle Sam

    I don’t think the MAFIAA wants soldiers to pay for the stuff, but rather they want the government to pay them some ridiculous fee to cover entertainment for servicemen/women.

    “Give us $10k/year per soldier, and we’ll see to it they have a copy of Twilight and the latest Justin Bieber album.”

    The parasitic MPAA/RIAA should be sending crates of DVDs/CDs and funding on-base cinemas, all free of charge. Instead they are worried about how to fund the lawyers who will carry out their next perversion of justice in the name of profits.

  • porkgrapes

    The MPAA are obviously NOT PATRIOTS and should be treated like the Dixie Chicks.

  • Anonymous

    @17

    Any established base is considered US soil. For instance: Misawa Air Base, Guantanamo Bay, etc.

    That’s not relevant though, the military is self governing and generally ONLY military law applies to soldiers. In other words, jurisdiction is largely irrelevant.

    The MPAA would be smart to not interfere. The military (of any nation) is a far bigger and far more powerful institution.

    Now they do have goods for sale on base (even on foreign soil like Iraq and Afghanistan) but the goods are fairly limited. From what I’ve heard there’s usually no more than a dozen selections of anything available, and most of them are shitty. I’d probably pirate stuff with a US government connection too. lol

  • PlayBoyMan

    Oh for god’s sake – Let the soldier’s have their fun. If they need to pirate JUST so they can enjoy some kind of entertainment while they are risking their lives, let ‘em do it.

  • zimmer*8 Flite

    its Live’s not life’s, yhour not doin it rite. get A Brain! lool u have no idea wat even

  • Einstein

    Sooner or later Hollywood is going to get it!
    And when I say they’re going to get it I mean THEY’RE GOING TO GET IT!

  • Just Some Guy

    How about they audit the MPAA members and if they find any of them cheated the artists, the government chops off their hands?

    I forgot, they’ve been found guilty of cheating artists multiple times….

  • Momba

    Does the army give a shit?

  • Someone

    While they risking their life on the field, mpaa just trying to make their life worst?

    oh mpaa, suck your own blood please =)

  • Anonymous

    Iraq serious bu$ine$$

  • disgusted

    wait, isn’t spying on the military a treasonable offence, heh, that would be neat if the army nailed the MAFIAA for spying on military affairs, after all how do they know that the military is pirating ?, ooh, this could be juicy :-))

  • [Generic American Terrorist.]

    [Generic patriotic sentiment full of half truths and outright lies.]
    [Calls for the execution of those who disagree with me.]
    [Calls for the execution of anyone associated with MPAA/RIAA.]
    [Calls for the overthrow of the democratically elected government.]
    [Unintentional irony while ranting about protection of freedom and lives.]
    [Failure to differentiate between O.B.L, Iraq, Afghanistan and Muslims.]
    [General display of ignorance over officially stated reasons for war.]
    [Smug, unwarranted sense of intellectual superiority.]

  • Looking for sensible response

    Seeing as the American bases are classed as US soil, couldn’t you solve this by buying a few netflix accounts or something? That way the soldiers could watch streaming video of any films they wanted (assuming they were stocked) and wouldn’t need to pirate things. Plus it doesn’t seem like a particularly unreasonable perk for the soldiers

  • caliphate sympathiser above

    aaand, your point is…

  • Anonymous

    @119
    It would depend on how they’re IP addressed over there, since netflix only streams to american addresses and despite that being politically considered american soil, the internet dosn’t care about politics and they’d likely be on an iraqi IP address. They’d have to use a VPN or relay it through an american address or it wouldn’t work as far as i know. It’s precisely the lack of that ability that causes the soldiers to pirate content in the first place, and especially as there is no legal alternative for them, i fully support their doing so.

    If the MPAA has any intelligent people, they would be rushing to give a legal alternative to the soldiers at least, if not the public as well. Sadly they’re too concerned with trying to stamp out piracy and not realizing that the lack of a legal alternative is only helping to make it more prevalent, and their actions to stamp it out have destroyed their PR (this site’s mere existance proves that).

  • Che

    damn capitalism :) the usa is the root of all evil lol :)

  • AnarchyNow

    Kill all the worse than nazi GIs, they don’t deserve to live, they’re a bunch of braindead slaves whoring for totalitarian multibillionaires like Steve Job$, Bill Gate$ and all the same league of warmonguers/liars/massmurderer/etc

  • Che

    AnarchyNow :) my speech dude lol ;)

  • Bad_Mojo

    @108 porkgrapes

    Are you for real?
    the dixie chicks had it exactly right.

    The reason we are in iraq at all is because of that moron bush.

  • slap

    @123

    get back under your bridge troll. who let you out?

  • Idiothater

    Wow so many fricking morons… what a bunch of haters. Try growing up.

  • Gary

    Canuck wrote:

    I just lost all respect for them…

    Seriously, why are they allowed to live?

    I CAN’T believe you has respect for MPAA!

    MAFIAA are low life, fat, greedy human beings.

  • Gary

    Should have said:

    …you had respect…

  • gorehound

    I just wanted to add to my above post by inviting any of the srvicemen out there who enjoy punk rock music.Come over to my band website and i have put up for free whole albums of my art dating all the way back to the 1970′s.all audio at 256-320k mo3

    http://www.bigmeathammer.com/archives.htm

    Enjoy and keep protcting our country.I do not support war or the Iraq war but I do support our servicmen.

  • DeltaPan

    @ 130 – May 16, 2010 at 16:46 by gorehound

    Most altruist and decent of you chap, to point troops into your genre of music to your offerings gorehound, should it so inrerest them.

    A fine example, indeed.

    May the goddess guide your path to good karma.

    Peace. : )

  • t0m5k1

    i wonder if the MPAA realized that the HURT LOCKER shows footage of a Solider actually purchasing a pirated DVD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I also wonder if the film purchased in the movie was a pirated copy of itself (i do love recursion)

    to me this is advocating the purchasing of pirated movies & therefore they have negated their own dumb ass law’s by doing this

  • DeeCee

    Why aren’t the troops being supplied with free DVD films and music, don’t they deserve them.

  • Gary

    If they did, DeeCee, receive free DVD/Music etc. MAFIAA would ant extortionate rate from the US Govt. Or MAFIAA would change the law to make money by lobbying.

  • truth

    – argueing on the internet is like winning the special olympics , ur still retartded.—

  • cyko_01

    another classic D*ckbag move by the RIAA. Not only are these guys risking there lives on the field, but the RIAA wants to take away what is left of there lives once they come home too!

  • DeltaPan

    137 May 16, 2010 at 18:12 by truth
    – argueing on the internet is like winning the special olympics , ur still retartded.—

    - – -

    Best you hope fate doesn’t end up putting you into a wheelchair or make you otherwise facultatively lesser abled if you’re involved in a bad accident then.

    What you said there just ain’t right.

    Shame on your prejudiced and insensitive manner towards those less fortunate!

  • me

    These soldiers are “helping” to establish a Global Copyright Regime (ACTA), in Iraq and elsewhere under US control; yet these MAFIAA thugs are *still* unhappy? Oh the chutzpah!

  • dlj

    I can’t believe some of the things I am seeing is this thread

    - The army is there to defend the us: false
    - They iraqs have something to do with 9/11: false
    - They are there for the oil: false

    Come on people, just think who benefits from an endless war and an invasion with no set time to end, it’s the defense contractors, this isn’t about oil, or freedom, or justice, it’s about money, go read how much have the us spend in weapons and in contracts for this war, and if you have a working brain it is to damn obvious who is benefiting, massively, from this mess, then see who did they supported with funds on their campaigns, and, surprise!, what a shock…

  • clueless dlj above

    @ poster 141 above.

    Yes the army is there to protect you, get your head out the sand and read up about the resurgence of the Islamic Caliphate, this is what it’s all about.

    The MAFIAA is just trying to extort money from the US army is all, heck if they try and do get money from old grannies and kids do you think the army scares them, I doubt it, in-fact they could have hit the jackpot with this new pirate, doesn’t the US taxpayer pay the armies bills ?, Kaaaching.

  • DeltaPan

    141 May 16, 2010 at 19:24 by dlj

    [Pardon off topic.]

    Also.

    Sumerian artefacts, amongst other things, many associated with dark occult, which i won’t mention, it’s called occult for a reason, but Hussains regime was involved in some things most outside of the initiated wouldn’t understand, a reason why it was so dangerous to not intervene.

    There are some things which defy understanding unless you’ve made a study of ancients, in that area, including Saudi etc.

    Before anybody says, crap i don’t believe in that sort of thing, that’s your prerogative, just telling it how it was/is.

    Belive or don’t belive, up to you, happens to be true though, however supressed such reasons have been.

    Peace : )

    [If you make a point of trawling through related subject matter at http://www.abovetopsecret.com you may find what i won't speak of on open channel to people i don't know are well studied in these things, also points of further references to expand on as far as researching it. Either way, it's an intreguing site with many sections of subject matter among many areas.]

  • me

    #142: “doesn’t the US taxpayer pay the armies bills”

    Yes, but not the bills of their soldiers.

    In fact, if the MAFIAA starts attacking US Govt’ personnel (including soldiers), they are attacking those who put them in this position of power over hapless little folks, grannies etc…

    It’s never a very smart move to bite off the hand that feeds them: they could anger their one and only “protector” (as in protection racket): the guys with the big guns.

  • CB

    REALLY!?! Is that the biggest concern they can find right now. I wander if they realize how shitty it is over there with no tv, entertainment, LIFE, etc… Buying movies like that give us some type of a break to beat the monotonous days. You go weeks without having anything to do, working long hours, and the only thing you have is your laptop and some crappy pirated dvd. It at least beats boredom.

  • tonyj

    A Big Public Relations fiasco for the MPAA.

  • Jeff

    As a soldier currently in Iraq I will tell you that movies/tv series are incredibly easy to come by. We can go to the Iraqi store on base and buy movies for $1 (I watched Iron Man 2 the night it came out in America on DVD from that store). I would have to agree that we really have no form of entertainment unless you really want to spend 8 hours in the gym.

    I think that Iraq and the MPAA have much larger worries than what soldiers do to pass the time. Why don’t they worry about revolutionizing the industry and try to compete logically? Instead they blow their money on lawyers and anti-pirate campaigns.

  • Anonymous

    How about they sue the DoD and in response Congress pass a law where military installations are exempt from copyrights? Problem solved.

    Nothing like good old fashioned PR.

  • Evil Corporations

    I vote that DeltaPan is the biggest idiot to comment here.

    Our beautiful, caring government is being taken over by evil corporations! Watch out, great government of the people – the corporations are right behind you!

    Idiot.

  • Peter

    The soldiers protect our way of life; if they let them pass, guess who loses…yes big studios think hard and long about the bigger picture not your over swollen cash pockets.

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  • the united hackers association

    if the mpaa wants to cal us all thieves then lets stop and lets just start going down to actual stores and smashing and grabbing all we can for complete week we can all show them what real stealing is

    ONLY target music and movie stores

  • Lucky Man

    oh damn! there’s lot of ppl that going to Blockbuster, Walmart, Target, Movie Exchange, Pawn Shop, Amazon Marketplace, etc… to buy movies then wait worrying about people pirate stuff? it been like that for more than 5 years if everybody’s arrested then how MPAA gonna make money anyway? MPAA/RIAA is just ridiculous… these companies including anti-piracy companies shouldn’t be existed otherwise there of ppl gonna protest all over their butts. im sure several ppl who are currently working for Anti-Piracy companies probably are also pirate too since they know what MPAA/RIAA up to first before people. so several ppl probably know how to encrypt movies and uploading without getting caught. so im sure they’re lucky ppl who work there but ppl who don’t work then get a VPN or something to not get caught maybe get PeerBlock but not always 100% safe just doing what PeerBlock can do by updating more Ip addresses of up to 4 kinds of IP addresses such as Anti-Piracy, Spyware, Educational, & Advertising.

  • Tony

    Although not involved in illegal activity. I can only imagine this type of action, by the MPAA, would motivate others(pirates) to only work harder. I am sure that more than one officer, general or official was involved in this decision and interacting with the MPAA. Who do they think they are to waste the time, energy, money and resources for such petty BS. It is actually tax payer dollars, my money.

    It costs me $50-60 to take my family to see a 90 minute movie. Millions are spent on targeted marketing to assure my child/family will desire to see more than one movie a month.

    Imagine the money that would have spent, tax payer dollars, to enforce such bullshit. There is nothing wrong with a desire to make a profit, being profitable or making hundreds of millions. There is nothing wrong with choosing to pro actively protect your property by any means necessary from piracy.

    However, this is just fucking stupid. It almost motivates me to become a pirate, to seed, to share. If I did I know this type of crap would motivate me to do it more, do it better and contribute to the best of my ability. But, I am not

    Tony

  • Ziggy Down Under

    The soldiers should get the films they want for FREE. Whether they pirate them or have them supplied. The pirates are saving the MPAA the effort of being patriotic.

  • TRYER

    “heroic soldier and a young Iraqi boy who sells pirated DVDs at a U.S. base”

    That is so ironic, funny and so true.

  • another one

    First, the MPAA are being total douches and since they won’t make a legal and reasonable alternative available to the troops, screw them.

    As to the troops, lay off them. Here’s why:

    They volunteered to join the military to protect this country, and took serious oaths towards that goal, bet that’s better than any here dissing them.

    They didn’t choose to go over to Iraq, but they are there in what amounts to a warzone where people are trying to kill them!

    Lastly, you can hate the policies and government heads (like bush) that put them there in the first place, but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t support the troops, and wish them a safe (and speedy) return. They are your neighbors, friends, and family who volunteered to protect your asses from all threats foreign and domestic.

    I was just wondering, if you don’t like the interest rates the Feds set, do you go down and picket your local credit union? Learn to freaking identify the source, not jump at making scapegoats.

  • Whatever

    @61 Deltaplan “Corporations with nukes”

    Like “Jericho” (series)?

  • DeltaPan

    156 May 17, 2010 at 10:30 by Whatever
    @61 Deltaplan “Corporations with nukes”

    Like “Jericho” (series)?

    - – - –

    I was actually thinking of several scenarios of potential misanthropic power play by corporations with too much power in the future.

    But as i recall it, there are a couple of elements from Jericho which could in reality be a plausible manifestation in reality to the fiction regards nukes, reconfigured missing warheads or the suitcase type tactical’s which…

    Yes, there was a private army in there, wasn’t there, so yes, that element comes into it.

    That Jericho was actually pretty good, had forgotten all about it, may DL and watch it again as it happens, thanks for reminding me.

    But what i was thinking about is based on current geopolitical and corporate events and scenarios to projection potentials.

    But it is true to say, the people who devise these sci fi’s do so for a few reasons, some dis/misinfo’, some to convey a sub text or forms of symbolics to reality within the fiction, some just to wake people up and make them think, of course some are just sci fi and enjoyable nonsense but some have something deeper to impart if one can make sense of it.

    The elements of Jericho weren’t exactly what i was thinking of, but now you mention it, it was powerful corporate entity, nukes and private army trained up in the Iraq theatre etc, with the attempt to completely switch the balance of power, indeed.

    I wasn’t even thinking of the US but it is a big nation, so to make a point and get a global government to yield, i suppose a couple of cities in a state in the US with the threat of more secreted in many other and ‘whoever’ aren’t saying where etc, would make that point much the same as causality scenario to nuclear device detonation(s) by misanthropic corporate elites as any and hold global government and governments of nations to ransom to gain global and domestic controls if they couldn’t do so by conning the power from governments by changing this law and that then all of a sudden put several laws together and it adds up to governments are pushed aside into a global new world order of corporate slavery as wealth generations from the base of economic pyramids, the lower echelons, have been mined out and have dried up, which is what i consider will cause this to be triggered in the future, nothing more at the bottom to give up the ladder to the top elites in corporations, governments try to protect the masses, so corporates take over into a form of marshal control and mass slavery, we think there’s no freedoms now, i say you wouldn’t know what it is to lose civil freedoms in the potential future, it doesn’t bear thinking about, we have a lot of freedom thank you and we shouldn’t moan at governments, there are far worse things which could happen, people could find their revolution they call for heralds something much worse than consequences we have to tolerate as governments try to stabilise the peaks and troughs of market forces, i mean much of that is corporate manipulations, we give up on our governments, what do people think will replace it, who will fill the vacuum because it won’t be some Utopian fluffy self autonomy among whatever peoples of whatever country.

    Exactly, which is why i mention it.

    Peace. : )

    [Pardon off topic again.]

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  • Afficianado

    What a bunch of kuntz.

  • Mod1

    Iraq does not have laws against illegal downloading. MPAA will have to take on the military in court for that one. That will never happen. They clearly only want money. Fuck you MPAA, I have a VPN set up for my friends in Iraq so they can specifically download illegal movies :)

  • From Baghdad

    I am a US Soldier currently deployed to Baghdad.

    Let me tell you what, there is no way in hell you can use P2P services effectively. There are WAY to many people using the same internet connect. Locally in my area you have a pretty fast network, however once you hit that SAT that (in my case linked to Germany) it bottlenecks. Average speed at night time (1600 to 0100) is roughly 6 to 10 KBs. Its just barely faster then dial up but not fast enough to load all the flash/ajax web of today.

    The service that we have in my area also restricts P2P using packet sniffing and all kinds of other bandwidth throttling techs that will result in a 20 minute ban from the network if detected. Skype is pretty unsable unless used during off peak hours and yahoo messenger seems to be my only form of communication. This is at 65 dollars a month, not to mention a 5GB download limit or 30 days of service (whichever comes first). Just trying to talk to my wife gets frustating. Now with the pull out its getting easier to be here and its becoming more more like our involement with Korea then a “war zone”. However with the above described connection, to download 10 meg files it takes 30 minutes, no way in hell am I going to or anyone else I know of going to risk their 5GB monthly limit and lose talking to family and friends over a movie we can get two bucks for. (Not to mention General Order #1 is suppose to prohibit all Porn material and they block a good portion of websites on these networks that we have to pay our money to use).

    I will gladly pay 2 dollars to get a movie from the local dealer (not all of them are Iraqis, most dealers are acutally from other nations).

    If your for the war, good for you, if your against the war, good for you. Anyone who has served did for one reason or another and unless your someone who has acutally been in for 30 + years, your usually on the receiving end of orders from someone higher then you so you drink water, drive on and complete the mission. In your down time you try to find something to do because the biggest problem with being deployed is trying to find things to do to pass the time.

  • Joey Mean

    The MPAA really does need to get over itself.

  • Spider_J

    I’m in Iraq right now, and oh lord did this make me lul. IF, by some miracle, they get a cease-and-desist order through the military’s deployment mail system, then best of luck figuring out which soldier on a 100-person VPN network using satellite internet with shifting-IP addresses AND peerguardian was downloading a shit copy of Kick-Ass.

  • Pyrokitsune

    You know, I just lost a lot of respect from the community I would have called peers or brothers….

    Whether you agree with the war or not, or want to join up or not, doesn’t fall anywhere into this story. You agree with the war and military service, thats great. You think all military service men and women should be shot and Bush brought to a war crime trial, thats great too. The story in itself had jack to do with either of those.

    The MPAA is doing to the US troops just as bad(if not worse) than they do to the US citizens. We want our stuff in whatever medium we want, access to legal copies of media in the formats we choose, and the ability to take our media with us when and where ever we want. Worse is they never come at you like men, they use sneaky 3rd parties to track you sometimes coming back with false information, they go after the ISPs to get compliance instead of the user, and when they do go after users it’s tactically planned to go after the ones with the most to lose and the least able to defend themselves.

    After all of that a bunch of you morons want to argue right and wrong about something thats only bearing on the story is they might or might not be in the area, and nothing about that the RIAA/MPAA is doing the same stuff to you on a daily basis and you’re no where near a battlezone….I’m disgusted by you guys.

  • Josh

    Sounds like the MPAA hates America

  • Whatever

    @158 Deltaplan
    Your reply was a bit difficult to read but did get through it though.

    Your welcome (reminder on Jericho).
    I actually wondered if anyone would know the series (cut short by some corporate decision – read on the internet somewhere). Usually people only know the overhyped (crap) movies, series and talent(less) shows.

    @161
    Save the 65 dollars and go to an internet cafe in Iraq to communicate with family (yes, i know that i don’t know your situation so i may see it wrong).

    Also sorry, very offtopic.

  • Crusher

    Let me make this perfectly clear I am not a racist. I’m just pointing out a fact. The MPAA and RIAA will never get into the Arab countries legally and are pissed off that they will never have control over the Middle Eastern countries media, because of one reason only. The MPAA and RIAA are all controlled by the Jews.

  • John

    I have three kids in the military ( two in the Navy and one in the Army ). If they want to watch TV or movies they have to use torrents. All the network sites available in the US are blocked in other countries. They should do something for our troops not against them…

  • DMC

    On the one hand, the law is the law and soliders abroad should have to follow it the same as the citizens back home.

    On the other hand, fuck you, MPAA. Those guys *should* be getting movies for free. You ask me, anyone that spends his life getting shot at probably deserves a couple of free flicks. Assholes.

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  • Fire2box

    I din’t think I could dislike the MPAA more after seeing this Film Is Not Yet Rated and after they made scores of parents that take ratings seriously like its a law.

    When will the MPAA realize they don’t live in a sitcom show like Leave It To Beaver?

  • l-form

    @96

    How many innocent civilian lives have been lost as the result of the invasion of Afghanistan? Estimates suggest between 13,372 and 32,969, many of them children.

    A bit disproportionate compared with the attack on the twin towers, don’t you think?

  • in.cog.nito

    @5

    STFU you liberal effing douche.

  • balad

    funny that nobody actually knows the truth…

    1. Soliders buy legal dvd’s all the time on bases in iraq at the PX.

    2. Iraqi’s sell pirated dvd’s on base and everybody buys them… but they are nowhere near the quality of legal dvds…

    3. If the MPAA was really concerned about piracy overseas they’d work out a deal with the sovereign governments of those countries not act like idiot americans who have no concept of anything but american copyright law.

  • Demetrius Laster

    what kind of idiot are you!!!! are you suggesting that soldiers be allowed to steal material simply because they are fighting in Iraq??? REALLY?? so the military should be able to run red lights and steal bread from small owners simply because they fight in Iraq. what kind of sense does that make? these people are out there doing a job that they get paid to do. they are able to pay for these download just like everyone else. fighting in the military gives NO ONE the opportunity to steal.

  • Chris

    @ all you sh@#heads that think soldiers are only there to rape, pillage and loot…..

    Whether or not you agree with the war, GI’s go to work everyday with YOU in mind. WE stand gaurd and fight for you. Were there mistakes made? Yes. But blame the politicians for them, the policy makers. Not the soldiers on the ground following orders. I served for a decade in the army with 2 of those years in Iraq. Did I buy pirated videos? Yes. But only when the legal dvds were not available. You see alot of our outposts have difficulty getting just essential items, nevermind the latest hit movie. So when the opportunity to watch a movie on your down time presents itself, you take it. You never know if that movie will be your last. Its not that we’re proud of it, the majority of soldiers are law abiding citizens. We have a sense of honor and integrity beyond the norm and act accordingly in everything we do. I, for one, would buy the extremely low quality bootleg if thats all that was avail., and purchase the real copy when I could. Everyone I ever served with, followed this line also. We are not theives. If the industry has a problem, they should help to get their entertainment out to GI’s in these inhospitable outposts. If they see a problem still persists, maybe then will they have an argument.

  • Zero

    If we get in trouble then they should as well. Why should soldiers get any special treatment? Just because they want to commit suicide and hang out with iraqis all day does not mean they can pirate and we can’t… I say arrest them all!! and fine them billions.

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  • Hello

    US forces are not “defending America.” Please don’t contribute to a pro-piracy website if you don’t know that much.

    I don’t know what’s worse, this MPAA business or soldiers wanting to be “good consumers.”

  • SGT Ortiz

    @ Hello : listen dick head it is soldiers past and present who have died to provide you the right to have a smugg fucking attitude. If you don’t like what we do or stand for move to venezuela or cuba, believe me you and your ilk wont be missed.

  • someone who isn’t stupid

    Nobody cares why the soldier are there, no individual soldier is a imperialist mastermind, hes just a hard working american putting his neck on the line to make ends meat. Trying to say that they are in any way tied to some world domination invasion oil stealing plot is just idiotic.

  • SGT Ortiz

    @ Hello: Listen Dick Head it is soldiers past and present who have died to provide you the right to smugg f@@king pr@ck. If you dont like your freedoms provided by US then you and your ilk are free to move to cuba or venezuela, let me know how speaking your mind works there!

  • Ben

    You fucking people who sit on your asses talking shit about the military kinda piss me off. You sort of remind me of fred phelps…. Fuck the mpaa and fuck you too

  • Dan

    “Oh god MPAA, give them a break. They are risking their life’s for you.”

    “Really ?
    I didn’t know the MPAA was in the oil-stealing and reconstruct-what-we-bombed business .
    Are they a subsidiary of Halliburton or something ?
    Since the US-troops are there to loot Iraq, why not loot some free entertainment between the child-killing ??”

    ass hole

  • WTFdude

    That Peter guy is a complete and total fucktard. Comment #5 btw for those who didn’t read. Without those soldiers who you don’t like you might as well let china or someone else take over because I’ll tell you something. We might do stupid shit sometimes but other Countries do even worse (china especially).

    Now I’ve vented. :)

  • Thankful Citizen

    F the MPAA, if our fighting men and women want to watch a pirated movie after a day of protecting us, I say more power to them! The pentagon should force the MPAA to back off!

  • Soldier Medic

    Ive read alot of ignorant posts on here, and it really disgusts me. I’m no fan of war, but fighting is my job, and my duty. Dont blame the soldiers, blame the politicians. If you knew anything of the sacrifices that we make, you would direct your ignorant bigoted hate elsewhere.

  • Shane

    You know, I could get all pissed at the anti-military shit people say, but I really dont give a fuck. I signed up for what I feel is right, and that is taking up arms to be ready to defend freedom. You are right, we arent fighting for your freedom over in Iraq and Afghanistan. We are fighting for other peoples freedom. Before we went into those countries, they were ruled by despots. YES, we killed civilians! plenty of them, but, if you want to make an omelet, you have to break some eggs. I met plenty of Iraqis who love having freedom. Sure, they hate living in a bombed out hut, but they like that US soldiers are willing to go in and fix it up for them. Before going into Afghanistan, they were even worse off than they are now, and the world is safer without the Taliban with power over a country, that is for sure. So yes, I am not actively defending our country, but I can tell you I am ready to fight and die for it any time. Ohh, and I love my Pirated scrubs, the office and hurt locker… and all the other movies and pornography ive downloaded, traded and purchased. I fucking earned that shit, just like any other grunt whos given time.

  • gutterball

    Funny the zionist lobby goes nuts for a war in iraq to send in US kids to die in support of their view how they as the chosen people think the map should look , the zoinists in hollywood then send thier lawyers to harass the kids in the front line for not paying enuf to swallow thier pro zion propoganda films ….

  • PROUD SOLDIER

    @40

    “where were those weapons of “mass destruction” again?”

    LMFAO… I have on my computer a picture I took when I was in Iraq when my unit siezed a battery of illegal scud missiles, plain as day. Those missiles have the range to reach Israel, and violated UN resolutions just like the 17 UN Resolutions that Iraq was already in violation of when we invaded.

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  • john

    REL//UNCLASSIFIED is NOT a classified marking, thus the document has never been classified. People need to learn how classification markings are applied.

  • So To Say

    This only proves there are too many USA soldiers around the world.

  • Freedom Fighter

    What a bunch of disgusting liberals ! Hey libs why hasn’t your savior done anything about the war? I don’t hear anyone complaining about that..

  • Anonymous

    To the other soldiers in this thread, and the haters,
    im a pirate through and through. (and soldier which gets 2nd place)
    I refused to even pay the 2 bucks for haji copies.
    I used my 128k (16kb/sec) Sniper Hill connection and I downloaded every goddamn movie and TV show is wanted to see.
    I was able to download a new movie every night (if it was 700mb)and if I needed more content than i could DL I gave my battle buddies the torrent files on thumb drives and we worked together to download the content we needed.
    FUCK THE MPAA and Fuck the hajji’s trying to sell me movies they downloaded off the pirate bay.
    oh yeah fuck the soldier haters. I hope they president declares material law and I get to kill you and your family, legally of course ;)

    one last thing LONG LIVE TPB!

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  • Paul

    Material law??? Good to see the US Military is in safe hands. Not.

  • Anonymous

    @PROUD SOLDIER

    so you found scud missiles.. Where’s the ‘mass destruction’ in that? If they’d contain chem/bacterial/nuclear material it would have been all over the news. So no WMD, just regular war gear.

    And ‘illegal’?? by whose laws?

  • Anonymous

    Oh and how many UN resolutions did Israel ignore? 138?

  • Xe10

    This is about nothing but numbers. The MPAA is in the job of producing “high piracy” figures any place they can find them. Then these numbers are taken and used for “concessions”, such as fees on blank media, Internet connections, etc. Your government will “save” them from this terrible wrong by allowing them some new and interesting way to take your money to correct this great wrong. And the cycle continues….

  • oh please

    “Less known are the movie industry’s efforts to clamp down on copyright infringers who are defending their country’s interests on foreign soil.”

    Fight the good fight regarding downloading, but please don’t patronize us with the suggestion that these people are “fighting for our freedom.”

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