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MPAA [Wrongly] Downplays Hollywood’s Role In Keeping Piracy Alive

“Hollywood is keeping piracy alive by failing to make content available legally.” It’s an often heard argument, but one that’s not “borne out by the facts” according to the MPAA. However, the “facts” presented in a rebuttal by the movie industry group are twisted and show utter contempt for those trying to do the right thing.

Over the years we have published dozens of articles on the reasons why people choose to pirate media. Time and time again “availability” comes out as one of the main motivations in both surveys and anecdotal reports.

Yesterday David Pogue highlighted this issue in Scientific American by pointing out that Hollywood is encouraging piracy by failing to make their content widely available online. The MPAA took offense at this stance and were quick to reply on their blog.

“[The article] echoes a very common argument about online digital theft: that if more movies and TV shows were available legitimately online, the problem of online content theft would take care of itself. The problem with this argument is that it’s not borne out by the facts,” the MPAA’s Howard Gantman writes.

Both Pogue and the MPAA refer to TorrentFreak’s list of the Top 10 most pirated movies of 2011 to defend their case. Pogue notes that none of these titles are available for “rent”. The MPAA on its turn argues that many of the titles are available to “watch instantly online.” So who is right?

Looking at Amazon, one of the most prominent video streaming services, we see that none of the top 10 movies can be rented, backing up Pogue’s claim. In fact, more than half (6) of the titles cannot be watched online “instantly” at all in the U.S. The four titles that are available have to be bought.


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No matter how it’s spun, availability is more of an issue than the MPAA leads us to believe, and one that only gets worse when we look outside the U.S.

For example, the MPAA mentions that “Fast Five” is available for streaming via HBO Go. However, not in Europe where I have to pay nearly $19 a month for HBO Go so I can watch Game of Thrones legally.

But let’s forget about the top 10 of 2011 and move on to more recent titles. For some reason many of the recent releases, such as The Dictator, initially appear available for rent. Amazon kindly informed me that I could rent the film for $3.99, but this turned out to be false promise.

When I clicked the “rent now” button I got the following notice.


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Unfortunately this is a very common experience for consumers outside of the United States, where the availability of movies and TV-shows is shockingly low. While that’s no justification to start pirating content, the MPAA is showing utter contempt for millions of legitimate consumers by downplaying the issue.

Continuing the spin, the MPAA argues that availability plays a minor role in countering piracy.

“Pogue’s thesis is that people choose to download content illegally when it’s not available to them in a legal format. He cites the availability of music on iTunes and TV shows on Hulu as evidence. But, as we know, digital theft of music and TV hasn’t stopped – in fact, it’s increased,” Gantman writes.

Wrong. Music piracy is dying off, just ask the RIAA.

The reasons why this is the case justify an article on their own but surveys and research underscore that legal alternatives are a prime reason. Whether it’s Spotify, YouTube or Hulu, there is no denying that legal alternatives eat away at piracy.

Of course, there are many reasons why people pirate and there will always be freeloaders who simply can’t or don’t want to pay. But this is no reason to offend those who have the right intentions.

Making content available may not make piracy disappear, but at the very minimum it gives the millions of people who want to do the right thing a place to spend their money.

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  • Thenell87

    I subscribe to just about every film & tv streaming service I can find in the UK. I subscribe to Netflix, Lovefilm, SkyGo, and I have access to BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and Channel 5 programs online, too. Yet the vast majority of stuff I want to watch is just not available, anywhere (except by ordering a physical DVD).

    Why is Hollywood in such deep denial about this problem? I promise, if they make stuff more available to me, I’ll spend more money on it. If they don’t, the only way I can see it is by pirating, which gives them nothing.

    • thedude321

      My point exactly, and frankly Holywood’s legal alternatives in South Asia are virtually non existent.

      • Immy_ed

        “[...]South Asia or China as an example. A DVD there is worth something like 60 USD[...]” I come from there and a DVD is nowhere close to be worth 60$, more like 4-5$ 

        • http://twitter.com/RubyJoh66902864 Ruby&Johnson

          Went to amazon, not there, went to netflix, there as a dvd/blueray only. Said fuck it and went to free streaming pirate site and watched the dvd verson for free. http://FinancialMayor.blogspot.com

        • Guest

          Hmm…. Spam is getting more clever. But still retains the same flaws, as real people don’t use the name Ruby&Johnson and FinancialMayor is an obvious as fuck spam blog.

        • Anonymous

          From Taiwan here. No way it is only 4-5$, more like 20-25$. That is worth about 3 days of food.

        • thedude321

          LOL….then you are not buying the original DVD…you are just buying a very good pirated version. There is no way that they would sell a DVD for $5 only. You only get DVDs that cheap when you buy crappy movies.

      • adam

        Agree about Australia. I torrented 1080i streams of game of thrones, because of both the delay to local TV, but also the fact local TV only played the SD version. I know its a fantastic looking show, and with a 50″ TV, the torrents won. I was not going to watch a 2nd rate SD version, its just not the same. If it was broadcast in 1080i, I would have watched it legally, adds and all.

        I also just bought an album from a local band yesterday. Its been quite a while since ive done that, but the music was good, I wanted to support the band, and the content was available via bandcamp.com in your choice of DRM free formats and for your own price – anything from $0 up. Yes, they would give it to you for free. I decided it was worth $5 to me, and paid that. No itunes, no lock in services, no crap to install on my PC, just plain good simple files like I want, and DRM free. All I needed was ‘click click click’ and my credit card. Sold.

    • Reggie

      MPAA is ALWAYS wrong duh!

      http://www.filedust.com

    • Loki

      “there will always be freeloaders who simply can’t or don’t want to pay” 
      - That’s Me! 

      I troll TPB and list the versions of Avengers.2012. 
      Then just get same file using free high-speed usenet accounts. 

      Funny … Got bored watching it half way thru. 
      If it was legal HD streamed for $0.99 I still wouldn’t pay. 

      • Anon

        “If it was legal HD streamed for $0.99 I still wouldn’t pay.” For now your impact is little. In the longer run when history is written, your general selfish greed will be held accountable for a surveilled, licensed and locked up network with user accountability that would have made us shudder back in the post Napster days. Well done.

        • Loki

          AWESOME!

        • Guest

          @Anon:twitter 

          When history is written, we’ll all be laughing at pathetic turds like you who thought the people were powerless to reform the law. 

    • Mat_t

      yep. region locks = zero of these films are available online outside the US in any digital capacity. They still haven’t acknowledged that region locks existing is entirely asinine.

    • Tabris

       Of course, if TPP has its way, watching an imported physical DVD could also become illegal. That will reduce availability even further.

      • DeyRail

        True that. They even tried to ban region-free DVD players a little while back. Downright sad if you ask me.

    • Asashii

      so you are entitled to everything , wow you must be like a god or something and shit and stuff

  • Pelonis

    Primary example, 2 days ago I wanted to watch the Avengers 2012. Went to amazon, not there, went to netflix, there as a dvd/blueray only. Said fuck it and went to free streaming pirate site and watched the dvd verson for free.

    Availibility, pure and simple.

    • Heisenberg7

      You do realize it doesn’t come out till September?

      Although, an argument could be made for movies going to DVD quicker.

      • Pelonis

        No, I did not.
        And since netflix claims to have it right now just confuses the issue and helps my point. I thought it was available legally, couldn’t watch it online legally so I turned to piracy and watched it online in good quality illegally.

        • Anyone

          Netflix will get Avengers in 2013, according to a recent press release

      • Anyone

        it is available as a 1080p download on TPB (both in 3D and 2D)

        the “official” DVD and Bluray release is Sept. 25th, you got that right.
        until then the only source to watch Avengers is an “illegal” download

        • Guest321

          Case closed right there. When pirate release takes place 1.5 months ahead of the official release, that says it all.

        • Heisenberg7

          I just always assumed the “unofficial” releases were of shitty CAM/TS quality.

      • Gae

        Then there is the problem.
        The movie is finished and if I choose to I could watch it right now online but where is the legal option for me?

    • Hogspace

      I had the same with this film and am currently in the same boat with Prometheus.  Neither Netflix or LoveFilm had it streaming.  So as soon as it comes up on a good Torrent I’ll get it there. 

    • ScrewEwe2

      The Avengers (2012)
      Buena Vista scheduled dvd release date for September 25, 2012 (USA)

      http://www.ondvdreleases.com/recently-announced-dvd-release-dates/.

      On the Netflix site it say’s: Format: “DVD and Blu-ray availability date unknown”, Either you’re talking out of your Ass, or you don’t know what “Save to DVD Queue” means. When it comes to actually streaming the movie on Netflix, that’s going to take a few years probably, because Netflix is going to maximise DVD rentals as long as possible.

      • Anyone

        Avengers streaming on Netflix is “early 2013″

      • Pelonis

        No talking out my ass here, went to netflix and did a search, didn’t want to pay for a useless sub since I watch 3 or 4 movies a year. Search pulled it up as AVAILIBLE FOR DVD/BLUERAY ONLY, nothing about waiting for sept.

        Went to amazon, not there said fuck it, did a google search for streaming online for avengers 2012 and clicked the first link.

        Availibility, pure and simple was and is my point. 

        Stop trying to pick non existent fights for some strange reason.

        • ScrewEwe2

          Wasn’t trying to start a fight.

  • Anonymous

    what needs to be remembered here is that if the entertainment industries were to admit that they were wrong, it would hurt their ego drastically. in admitting that, they would also be admitting that EVERY ONE ELSE IS RIGHT IN WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR YEARS and that would hurt their ego even more, so isn’t ever going to happen. it would also mean they would have to adapt and join the rest of the world in the digital age, the 21st century, have to stop instigating as many law suits against customers (an easy way of getting money, while driving customers away from the shops and on to illegal sites!) and stop convincing stupid politicians that more strict laws are needed to protect their dying industry, which actually isn’t dying at all!

  • Waseihou

    Well, even availability would not fully solve the problem. Why? Because a lot of consumers are teenagers, who often do not have access to money, and even if they have, they do not have acccess to payment methods. But they have all the time to searching for a pirated version of what they want. Well, those kiddies are located mainly in the developing countries, as a new generation of western kids is dumber when considering computer related skills. On the other way, having computer is now normal so it is like there are more BFU’s than less self-taught experts? Who knows…

    There will always be a “piracy”, and one of the contributing factors are those whining MAFIAAs. We like them to scream, it’s like telling is “go, go, pirate it, we have that some shit, look how important we are because of that”. Some of us pirate the content without actually consuming it. Just for the sake of it. Kinda activism… You don’t like it? We will do it anyway! Muhehehe!!!

    • John Spartan

      a lot of consumers are teenagers, who often do not have access to money 
      Not buying it or pirating it, it doesnt matter, either way the MAFIAA wont get money from them, if they dont have any. So in reality there is no ‘problem’, just MAFIAAs imaginary problems.

      • DeyRail

        True enough, but you know how much they love milking the victim role. Losses through piracy are basically calculated as; the number of pirated copies equals a loss of income of the same amount. Which is complete nonsense. 

        One, chances are the ones that downloaded the product wouldn’t have bought a copy to begin with. Like you said, they wouldn’t have gotten the money either way. Two, there’s plenty of people out there who download and end up buying the product if they like it enough.

        Rather than complaining about an impossible to calculate profit loss, they ought to focus more on the reason why the ‘problem’ of illegal downloading exists to begin with. But that would mean they’d have to point the finger at themselves and putting in an effort.

  • Anno

     Typical MPAA denial. I used to pirate games but I don’t anymore since Steam service became so great and affordable. I have well over 300 games in my collection now. I now only pirate games that have invasive DRM simply because I get a better product out of a pirated copy. Treat your customers right and they’ll be more than happy to throw money at you.

    • guest

      steam is a pile of rotting garbage, the day it started updating games without my permission is the day i swore off these lousy suckers, its bloated very little options to fix games that don’t work properly and you have to jump through hoops
      for it not to be invasive, the comments on this site have explained it better then i have, if a game company has a steam prerequisite they’re not gonna see any money from me
      http://webdevsys.com/steamingPileOfShit.htm

      • Guest

        Sounds like a pile of excuses to me. You do know that there is an option to turn off auto updating right? And that it has multiple options to fix games such as verify integrity of game cache, other than that I don’t know why you expect a distribution program to fix other problems the game might have. And please explain how it’s “invasive”.

        • guest

          verifying game cache doesn’t do dick all, it updated a game when i had it on ask first, i didn’t even mention that you can only install the game on one hard drive,
          good luck finding the save games if you want to back them up, invasive have you seen how many things you have to allow to connect to the internet if you want to play one of their games? it’s bloated, you have to update that shit every time you go online, it crashes, it stalls your computer, i had to jump through hoops to re-register at one time, go to the site i posted if you want to know everything wrong with that bloatware drm, i’m done with that garbage

        • chronoss chiron

          and what if i decide i dont want to have internet one day …..or it gets to pricey and i cut it off….
          yup boned again

        • Bobby

           to “guest”
          Savegames are (normally) where games usually locate their savegames – that’s pretty easy to find.
          Also, chronoss – (most) games can be played offline; the biggest problem w.r.t. that is invasive DRM.

      • guest who isn’t an idiot

         you sound like an idiot.

        bloated? running in the background it uses 0% cpu and 15mb ram.

        fix games that don;y work properly? if the game doesn’t work properly, that is the developer’s problem, not steam’s.

        verify game cache doesn’t do dick? yeah it does, it verifies the checksums of game files to ensure they are not corrupted, which is all you can ask of the distribution platform (steam)

        updates? frequent updates are the mark of good, well maintained software

        savegames? they are located in the game’s folder inside the steam folder. a simple google search for any specific game will tell you where.

        and i’ve never had steam crash on me once.

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  • Guest

    The MPAA is operating under the assumption that the current available options have made everything available, and that piracy exists is a sign of availability not being the problem. As usual, they’re ignoring the fact that availability isn’t international. iTunes is available for download but access to the store wasn’t allowed in my country until recently. Where are people going to get legitimate stuff and give content creators their money?

  • http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

    The MAFIAA, but more so the MPAA, have totally lost the plot with this piracy shit and they’ve no idea how to drag themselves into the modern World by adapting to the needs, wants and demands of their own customers.

    In fact Universities will be looking back at this era and using it as a CLASSIC example of how to destroy your own industry through stubborn stupidity.

    I’ve no sympathy for any of ‘em.  Adapt or die.

    • Tgsd

      Its just plain daft the movie industry knows theres a huge demand for online downloadable content which they could make available themselves for a small fee which most people would happily pay. And people will still buy dvds/blurays and fill cinema seats yet they would rather the likes of mpaa go after pirates to stop us getting content. If they made a universal legal download site they would line their pockets very quickly ,piracy would be a thing of the past and they would have millions of happy customers. And im sure if its a decent movie or show people will buy a hard copy.

    • Anonymous

       it’s not just their own industry that’s being destroyed. they are taking down as many competing industries as they can as well, legitimate or not. what is worse, because of the financial influence they use on politicians, you know the ones i mean, that were voted in to protect the rights of the people, not just of industries, and the fact that these politicians are so greedy they accept the bribes without a second thought for whatever else is being affected, other businesses collapse, other businesses dont even get off the ground and some start up elsewhere, so countries are affected greatly as well, which reflect on the economy and jobs. it’s their own greed and stupidity that is having so many adverse affects, not ‘piracy’!!

    • Anon

      Many of us have no sympathy for digital pirates, either. Get caught and die. Seems fair.

      • Guest

        Boy, Anon, is this why Nej hasn’t been posting? You’ve been letting him hog Pelouzey’s industry phallus and letting him be an evasive whiny little bitch!

      • ScrewEwe2

        “Many of us have no sympathy for digital pirates, either. Get caught and die. Seems fair.”

        I like the old saying “Eat Shit and Die Young.” much better than “Get caught and die.”

      • Guest

        By “many of us” do you mean you and your multiple screen names?

  • Bryan Abbott

    In my country, it is not unusual to find that a movie just released in theatres are available on bluray in the US. It is not unusual to find that a movie on sale here for $40 is available in the UK for the $19 our local currency (that includes shipping and fees). It is not uncommon to try to use a paid service (Pandora, Netflix, etc) and be told they can’t take your money because the local cable monopoly own all the right and don’t want to share nor come out with a streaming service. 

    Now we are told that using a VPN to bypass the regional restrictions and pay for Netflix should be illegal and is considered piracy by the MPAA. They also say purchasing the bluray from the US or UK for half the price of a bluray is also soon to be illegal. This sounds very odd, as they are against piracy and say they want us to pay for their content. But when we do, they are STILL not happy in how we are choosing to pay or where we purchase from. I have no sympathy.

    • meowmix

      buying something is pirating!

      it would seem you may as well just dl what you want, after all, its not like they want your money. fucking idiots.

    • Violated0

      They also say purchasing the bluray from the US or UK for half the price of a bluray is also soon to be illegal.

      No need to worry about that one when they have tried that before and lost.

      Back during the earlier days of DVDs people in Europe often liked to import R1 titles from the US and Canada due to less censorship, more extras, earlier release and often better prices.

      Online DVD sellers soon got wind of this market and soon began importing R1 DVDs in bulk to sell locally. They of course did not like people ignoring their more expensive R2 titles and so took action against the R1 sellers.

      They did indeed take the largest R1 DVD seller in Europe to Court and massively lost. The judge ruled that what they could lawfully buy they could resell and to try and stop them was against the free and open market concept,

      So they would be stupid to try that one again with BluRays when it has already been proved in Court that they can’t do that.

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  • ME

    What can you expect of a country that believes the whole continent of America starts and ends with them.

  • isellorgans

    to poor to buy stuff :<

    give me decent monthly outcome and i will buy legal stuff np.after bills and food i have like 100€ for life.thats like  fucking nothing

  • Piercing_male

    I think part of the problem is not just hollywood, but also legions of other highly paid “reps” of all the major players downward in the chain and as hollywood has not yet realised that with the Internet (and digital distribution and projection methods) the public know that it no longer needs to send a bucket load of cans by ships to each country to then be duplicated and then rolled out to the cinemas and that this “first stage” is artificially held back to allow stars to be paraded at openings (although this is somewhat redundant as its rarely reported by the TV anymore or at the most a few seconds on the main news broadcasts).

    Then there is the overly large delay between cinema release and a very limited set of first to broadcast suppliers (in the UK only SKY PPV)

    Then another overly large delay before it hits the shop shelf. (although this point and the previous can be interchanged)

    Then another before it hits the pay to stream.

    Then finally hitting the subscription streaming (netflix et.al)

    And then, sometimes, “free to air.”

    Frankly if they truely wanted to reduce piracy then they should either do a world wide same day release of all media types or do a world wide same day cinematic release followed by a delay and then a world wide all other mediums release.

    Obviously the vested interests of SKY, CD production and distribution companies and the like would not be happy with reduced profits, but hey, at least hollywood would get its money.

    The same is true of TV production, allow a single day 1 release (potentially with time zone variations) to who ever buys the content but if they decide to not stick it on the telly till days or months later thats their hard s**t if they can’t get the revenue from PPV or subscription channels because they delayed. Then follow this by an all media release say a week later, if SKY loose out because they delayed and another TV channel has bid during the second release and puts it on tough!.

    People in each chain in the distribution, and different methods, would then compete in a truely equal market and would sink or swim by the value they add, not by forcing the market to conform to outdated models.

    DVD/Blue ray would compete by adding value, say posters, and true low compression HD. to offset the higher production costs and the fact that not everyone has fast internet and/or pays for cable etc.

    Satellite/cable/pay to stream would compete by being first to air and/or perceived  convenience.

    Second wave TV would make its money from adverts.

    Subscription based or “free catch up” internet would make its money from adverts and/or subscriptions.

    And the consumer would get what it wanted or paid for be that an expensive evening out at the cinema with food and “ambiance;” a press of a button on the remote/computer and an instant debit from the bank as you “just have to watch it now;” a trip to the shops to get that must have collectors edition with poster and super high quality; or wait a while and catch up with what ever method you want.

    • chronoss chiron

      ya think 20+ dollar pop/popcorn has anything to do with theatres going bump?

      • Piercing_male

        Yes, very much so… We have a little local run theater here which has no food concessions, just cans and popcorn and little else and all at just above local shop prices (about 20-50%) which is great value for money, but obviously doesn’t show many “big title” movies except for kids ones due to the huge upfront cost to the cinemas that they then hope to recover over time.

        Or we can travel 10 miles to the big name cinemas and pay 400-1000% mark up on drinks, sweets, popcorn, etc. and have “in store” restaurants that have huge markups on the price of food available else where locally,  for example £6 quid for a “slice” (1/8th) of pizza compared to £13 for a whole large one and then they have the nerve to complain about “pirates!”

        That said… I did go to see Star Trek, after watching a cam rip, as it looked good and I wanted to see it bigscreen, however I took my own drinks and snacks :-P

        That was probably the first, and last, time I’ve been to the cinema since 2002!

    • ScrewEwe2

      “People in each chain in the distribution, and different methods, would then compete in a truely equal market and would sink or swim by the value they add, not by forcing the market to conform to…”

      You’re 100% spot on, but I doubt if any of the tiered players will ever be willing to give up their slice of the gradual release pie. I had a cable subscription to HBO and some of the other similar channels like Showtime and Cinemax from about ’91 till ’04 when I started up with Netflix. The first thing I noticed was that everything on HBO etc, was about a full year behind Netflix in first play availability, and a hell of a lot cheaper in the long run, without the constant replay. For about 3 years I was on the 6 DVD’s at a time Netflix plan, and finding the right programs on Torrent sites to get the software to get around the copyright protection to copy those DVD’s was and still is easy as hell

      Any time a government or company tries to block access to something, some other entity will provide access to that thing. In the US in the 20′s and early 30′s during the Prohibition era it was booze, prostitution and gambling.

      Bottom line: When you try to Prohibit something you create an underground market for that thing, so Wake The Fuck Up.

  • Guest

    Removing the stupidly unskipable  anti-piracy warnings would do them good too.

    Who wants to pay for something only to be forced to sit through that sh.it?

    it ain’t something that affects pirates, only paying customers suffer.

  • djnforce9

    I wouldn’t say this isn’t an issue with music as well. For example, I can’t purchase anything from the Amazon music store. You have to be the US. Same goes for Spotify. The only option globally available is iTunes but to me that is not an option because Apple forces you to install that horrendous piece of bloatware in order to access their store. Why you couldn’t just buy directly from their website is beyond me.
    The worst case scenario was a Canadian artist Jeremy Fisher. The only options he provided to purchase a digital copy of his latest album was iTunes (which I will never ever use as I just said) and all these American exclusive music stores (I guess Canadian artists don’t want to sell to Canada). Thus I am left with piracy or forget it and go without as the only options (neither of which creates new business for the artist). This should be fixed!

  • Gordons

    I must be 47teen if most pirates are teens with no access to cash then. BOLLOCKS! I’ve bought Pink Floyd’s Dark Side in so many fucking formats i should be getting royalties too!!!
    I’ve bought films that are so shit I SHOULD BE PAID TO WATCH THEM!
    No more, I’ve paid enough. I’ll try before I buy from now on and I don’t mean paying £4 for a one time rental! 

    • meowmix

      if they’re so shit, why’d you pay for them? was it a lying bastard mag review? i was cought out like that once. i went to see an incredibly shite film becasue sfx said it was good. in the dvd review, when it came out, they gave an honest review and said it was shite. my mrs recons its different reviewers opinions.

      • chronoss chiron

        tell me how you can tell these days if anything is decent(trailors show the best bits period )
        so far in last decade about 1 film per year is decent with about 2 in the decade being pretty good…

      • Gordons

         Aye, lying bastard reviews, lying bastard DVD covers with their lying bastard marketing ploys. Plus a soupcon of naivety on my part, a fool and his money and all that. Bastards.

    • Tgsd

      Totally agree with gordon there. If i buy a meal and its bad i can get my money back but if i spend say £20 on a dvd and its bad .. i cant get my money back because its been opened . On the other hand if i download a movie and i love it ill go out and buy the dvd to add to my collection. Its not my fault i have to wait several months to buy it in a format i want. Theres loads of movies i would love to buy but guess what its not available to buy so im forced to find an alternative means to get the films i want to watch. Its not my fault there too busy being greedy trying to sell rights to the highest bidder. Then they get the hump because i choose not to buy from a premium service which is full of junk and then they let the mpaa and the likes go after people for stupid amounts of cash?!?! Really they want me to pay £515 for a movie which given the chance would have cost me £20? Suck it up movie industries adapt or die !

      • Bobeh

         Not to mention older movies/series which simply aren’t available anymore (besides used (aka scratched dvds, if you’re lucky :S)).

  • Gear Mentation

    I would NEVER have become a pirate if there had been GOOD cheap legal alternatives.  Unfortunately for the MAFIAA, I am now a pirate for life, for moral reasons which their lawsuits brought to a head.  However, the fact that they rip off the artists or run a protectionist http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protectionism racket on the basis of non-democratic corporatocracy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporotocracy would be sufficient.  Also sufficient would be the fact that entertainment is a necessary part of culture, and everyone has a right to participate.  There are ways that artists get paid and culture is free.  Those are the only moral ways to experience culture.  Nothing they do now will cause me to stop being a pirate.  Well, maybe not… if Netflix had been half as good as the “illegal” alternatives I would have stuck with it.

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  • Fjjf

    RIAA is dying
    MAFIAA – RIAA = FIAA (fear)

  • Pingu

    Have to laugh at the hangover part II not being available. Anyone who subscribes to HBO with one of a number cable dish or other tv providers (in the US, granted) can watch it for online at hbogo.com

    • Anyone

      why would I want a cable subscription?

  • Violated0

    I have said it before and I will say it again but when it comes to lawful content on the Internet then the MPAA really were on the last boat leaving.

    I well remember my first infringing movie download which was the 2006 movie Silent Hill where I found I had some credit to use up and simply picked a random title. I got very lucky when it proved an awesome movie which soon got me hooked on movie downloads and I now have the DVD of course.

    The interesting thing is that back in 2006 I had long avoided movie and music infringement and only focused on TV episodes for years where infringing fans are more welcome.

    My point is that infringing movies have been available well over 6 years but here in the UK they have only started to get serious on movie streaming during the past year with services like NetFlix and LoveFilm. So for all those years the MPAA has FAILED to meet the public demand and were only left twiddling their thumbs.

    And it is right that services are lacking simply because of the stupid rules the MPAA plays which puts Internet streaming in conflict with traditional media, They love to run their monopoly making system of exclusive contracts per zone.

    I have now been saying this since 1998 when all these problems will disappear if they just did the one thing of “non-exclusive agreements”. Then any service can obtain any media they want and who cares if multiple services have the same movie? This system works perfectly well for music which is why people can find the music they want on the service they desire to use.

    So the MPAA remains with their head in the sand trying hard to ignore that infringement sites offer awesome availability, great speed, great quality and people can view on many devices.

    Then the MPAA moan how can they compete with free? I am quite sure that would begin by stepping up their game. If file sharing can do it then why can’t they? All I see is that they live in a bygone era instead of the modern digital age.

    I will be fair on them though when they are making progress like movie theatre screenings are now much more in sync around the World. That helps pack more people into the cinemas when only a few days helps them to resist the infringing download.

    This is what I love about the public being in control of the market when the MPAA are slowly being dragged into what they should be doing.

  • chronoss chiron

    LOOK in 1999 they let a female lawyer run the riaa, look whats happened ….key part here is the lawyer bit

    • Gear Mentation

       Then why’d you note the female?

      • Violated0

        Boobs are valid in any context. ;-)

        • Guest

          I can think of a couple of points lol

  • ericore

    “The
    problem with this argument is that it’s not borne out by the facts”  What an idiot statement.  There does need to be physical evidence for something to be true.  The problem with the imbecile MPAA and online content is, its all derived from shitty contracts thereby limiting what can and cannot be watched thereby invalidating that option entirely for many.  There other problem is the price; both online and physical.  If you only get to see it once, you should only pay a fraction of the price and this is not adequately reflected.  Topple that with physical movies not being cheap (because of greedy corporation cough cough cough
    cough cough) and that explains everything.  If all new movies were sold for 10 bucks + tax, I’d only own physical content and Hollywood would dramatically increase profits since they would more than double sales.  But as always and as expected, there is a lack of general intelligence; seriously the money gets to their head and makes them look like morons; error, turns them into ones.

    • Gear Mentation

       No way.  I certainly would not pay $10 for a movie.  Perhaps fifty cents tops.  5 cents for a tune or fifty cents for an album.  Seriously, we are trying to figure out what media would be worth if it were a free market.  But because of the laws and monopolies, we have no idea what these products are actually worth.  I bet they are worth about what I said on the free market.  But get real… say the average user downloads 2 movies a week, 8 a month, you want we should pay $80 a month for movies alone… then more for music, more for our internet connection, more for streaming more for who knows what else?  No way.

      • ericore

        lol not online dude, I meant physical

        • Anyone

          who buys physical media?

      • Gear Mentation

         Yeah, I don’t buy physical media anymore, except thumb drives and hard drives.

  • Guest

    Availability is everything, quality of content is everything and so is value for money.
    Give me an movie with a full unrestricted digital copy. Give me more than just rubbish for a flat fee on Netflix etc. I pay $200 a month for satellite I barely watch which bombards me with advertising and has me use my own internet connection for on-demand delivery. Does it really matter if I consume from the internet having already paid so much?

    • downunder

       thats if your in USA.. you have alot more options and current content then the rubbish and wait times we suffer downunder

      but your right.. if you pay for a sky/cable/whatever tv.. per month that should include a option to download as copy on the wen without darn ad breaks or promos

      they wont allow that.. cos only option is to allow you to record it to watch it as long as hard drive doesnt over fill but not allow you to save it off on memory key or dvd-r to collect a show you love and want to rewatch in coming years or months again

      so they trying to offer only pay per view not pay to keep own copy with endless views

  • Duder

    If it wasn’t for “piracy” I wouldn’t be such a good paying customer like I am now. Piracy allows fans to stay tuned to the industry much much more than shows like entertainment tonight or the magazine entertainment weekly. I download A LOT….but I also spend about $300 a month on digital media.

    Without “piracy” I would be fine with just my TV subscription.

    I have NO issues buying legit media IF the quality and price is right. Right now pirates understand video encoding much much more than the industry.

    Amazon has nice shit, but the DRM is such BS considering you pay 2.50 a episode..

    • Anyone

      don’t buy stuff from the MAFIAA
      they only use that money to take away your freedoms

      keep pirating until they are bled dry

      • JordanKratz

         Almost !
        Make sure to spend your money and do spend it please on Local & INDIE Content.
        Do Fuck the MAFIAA
        MPAA = The Massive Pricks of America Association

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  • Gordon

    They don’t need to alienate the people that don’t want to pay either. All of these conglomerates are forgetting where their media empires started. Radio. 

    I don’t recall having to pay a monthly fee or a per-use fee to listen to my radio. And yet somehow, radio was so successful, TV was regarded as an outlier technology for quite a while. 
    If the media companies weren’t so spoiled by VHS and cassette sales, they could be the ones getting rich off of ‘piracy’. It’s not like the people that are providing the files are doing it for free. It’s a lucrative enterprise. A legitimate structure would only further that. I imagine McDonalds, Coke, and the other big advertisers would love to get the viewership that this “billions of lost dollars” worth of audience would provide.

  • Zog2012

    Was Pogue the first person to note the lack of availability of 2011′s top movies? Thought I read that in another tech article a couple of weeks earlier and I didn’t see that referenced.

  • downunder

    Goes to show what Fook witts the media bullywood is listening to

    seems to me MPAA etc are misleading them with views and false stats so they keep funding their nastey little organization which is creaming millions of the producers to fund them.. of course they going to deny it arent they

    CEO getting paid 3 million a year LOL joke..and thats criminal to start with..  I doubt in a life time all the tv shows downloaded in a year by everyone wouldnt total that.

    lets see  200 to 1000 downloads a day per episodes.. lets just call it 1000 .. how shows a day.. (although theres alot of crap people upload and download which I would never watch LOL while good shows arent upped at all! by scene :// so lets say 20 shows a day

    thats 20,000 a day… if could charge $0.50 a download which is too much in my books for a tv show. thats  10,000 dollars a day
    x 365 days in a year. about $3 million dollars

    now if they SACKED all these Lawyers and MPAA and made the tv shows available worldwide

    the Bullywood rich would be making 10s of millions while saving their money of over the top salaries for people that give nothing back to society (leeches)

    cut out the middle man.. wake up bullywood

    • downunder

       
      Why do people pirate? for these reasons

      1) To try before you buy without limitations
      2) Its too pricey and not worth the value asking for
      3) No other way to source it

      theres always going to be some that pirate as they will
      be low income people or kids you will never rule it out
      complete

      so to rid piracy will never happen but
      they could make more money by being less greedy

      sell books, music and soft and tv shows cheaper
      and in more formats

      books and soft make no more then  $15usd

      I for one can say I might of pirated software where it
      was too pricey but I have bought soft thats $20 or less
      espc if downloaded a cracked  version and like it after having a play and want the newer version and its reasonable priced
      I just buy it. I even have donated to free software to support the person even though ive broke bottom feeder

      so piracy is not always a bad thing

      seems to me they need to do better and real stats collection

      they obviously did a poll on poor indians or chinese pirates who will never have the money to blow on expensive soft/games or movies :)

    • downunder

      the other problem for offline content..

      stop selling it to local stores.. they just yet another middle man that does nothing to the value of the product.. they just add there
      $5 on top of the price they bought it for.

      why can people just buy direct and have it shipped to the door

      and shipping doesnt need to be much.. espc if they set up
      local warehouses in every country..

      ship in bunk to the warehouses.. and ship from there to peoples doors

      I buy pretty much everything online now and most of it is shipped free to the door within in 2 days or 2 weeks of overseas

      only thing buy locally is food

      • downunder

         opps bulk i mean not bunk :)
        and their not there.. and cant not can.. arrg..
        no edit button.. unless I join? anyhow

        so break down..

        Songs on CD = Artist $1
        Middleman 1 (producter) = $10
        middleman 2 (Store.shop)=$5
        shipping=$5
        manufacture=$2

        so cut out the middlemen.. that 50 percent of the price

        call cds for  $8 not $30

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  • http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell

    Once you take into account people with cable/satellite TV memberships who are just getting their stuff in a way that they wish to watch it (without commercials online), you realize that almost all ‘piracy’ disappears.

  • GUEST

    MAFIAA, I know you will read this. Fix your sh#t you corrupt dumbasses. 

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  • girfuy

    I will always choose the free option.

  • Imeziv0x

    1) Make excellent movie, available in 2D [and 3D gimmick]
    2) Make more than enough through box office release, premieres.
    3) ???????????????
    4) Release the content worldwide 7 months after the demand has died
    5) Shit Internets win, they supplied the demand.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001543873716 Anthony Tadayoshi

    The MPPA is encouraging us to acquire a stolen US credit card and a US IP address in order to “Legally” buy media on their terms. It’s all a huge conspiracy to get us to move to the US in order to condition our minds and reduce the world population to a more smaller controllable mass.

  • http://twitter.com/thedarkerside Michael

    The problem is that the entire movie distribution business is stuck ca. 1999 when the world could still easily divided into different regions with consumers in each not really able to cross that boundary or even know what’s available in other sections.

    In 2012 of course the internet has torn down these walls and data can flow freely. The problem for the MPAA and it’s member studios is though that they specifically set up the distribution way back when to insulate each individual subsidiary from the mothership. Sucks to be the movie industry.

    There really is no quick way around this, essentially the mothershiop would need to buy out all the local distributors they have set up / licensed the content to and then do a wholesale revamp of it. I can’t see that happening. Instead, they’ll continue to try and pour money into lobbying the PTB to enforce archaic copyright rules.

  • http://www.facebook.com/asas.basas.79 Asas Basas

    For $75 a year, Amazon Prime/Streaming looks pretty good, but sadly is not available in Australia like most of amazons goods and services. Same with Netflix, $10 per month steaming is a good offer, a lot cheaper than the few good shows on Foxtel (Australia’s only pay tv provider). Does the RIAA and MPAA know why the torrents and streaming sites are so popular, the content can be accessed without any popups saying that you have to live in a certain nation or have a certain device or be overcharged for the same file from the same server. $1.19 for a top track in the US iTunes store, $2.19 for the same track in the AUS iTunes store. It’s easier to view a tv show on PutLocker or GorillaVid than it is to buy a VPN and have to get a US credit card to get Netflix or Amazon. 

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