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Music Biz Set To “3 Strike” Two-Thirds of Irish Broadband

Keeping its promise to Ireland’s largest ISP, Eircom, the music industry has targeted the country’s second largest ISP, Vodafone. According to a new report, Vodafone is in talks with the Irish Recorded Music Association about issuing warnings and eventually disconnecting its file-sharing customers. Since its introduction last month, around 800 Eircom customers have already received their first strike.

Following last year’s out-of-court settlement with Ireland’s largest ISP Eircom, in May IRMA – representing EMI, Sony, Universal and Warner – confirmed the pair would start tracking, warning and disconnecting alleged file-sharers.

Using data gathered by Danish company DtecNet, IRMA said it would begin supplying Eircom with suspected infringing IP addresses for a 3 month pilot period. Thus far, Eircom has sent around 800 warnings to its customers.

Part of that out-of-court settlement was a promise from IRMA that it would not leave Eircom at a competitive disadvantage. Clearly, once word spread that Eircom is a ‘bad’ ISP for file-sharers, potential customers would see huge benefit in choosing another ISP. To avoid this eventuality, last month IRMA filed papers against mobile operators O2 and 3 for their apparent non-cooperation.

Not everyone is digging their heels in though. Two other mobile ISPs, Vodafone and Eircom subsidiary Meteor, said they were in “advanced negotiations” with the IRMA to bring the graduated response to their networks.

Today there is further news that IRMA is well on its way to soaking up the majority of the Irish market with its “3 strikes” (technically a 4 strikes) scheme, this time by targeting Eircom arch-rival, Vodafone. Market leader Eircom has been in a price war with No 2 player Vodafone for quite a while now, so any action IRMA takes against the ISP will be warmly welcomed by Eircom. It’s even more convenient for them that Vodafone is playing along nicely.

According to a report in the Irish Times quoting IRMA Chairman and EMI Ireland chief executive Willie Kavanagh, “significant progress” had been made with Vodafone in negotiations to bring file-sharing disconnections to the ISP.

In a statement, Vodafone said that file-sharing represents a “serious issue for the Irish music industry” and that it is looking at introducing “appropriate steps” consistent with “applicable legislation and recent judicial decisions”.

The “judicial decision” refers to April’s ruling from Dublin’s High Court which effectively gave the music industry the go ahead to start warning and disconnecting file-sharers.

Getting Vodafone on board would be a significant success for IRMA. Eircom and Vodafone control almost two-thirds of all Ireland’s fixed broadband connections.

Another ISP, UPC, continues its refusal to introduce disconnections for its customers. Tomorrow it will face the start of action in the Commercial Court brought on by the music industry.

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  • Anonymous

    This is ridiculous.

  • Peanut

    Hold on UPC!. Hopefully I wont have to buy a vpn for a while. Irish and First :)

  • Aquila92

    “SHOCKER: Big business’s join forces to shit on the little guy”

    I can hear the headlines being printed already(!)

  • Pete

    To be Sure, To be sure.

    LAN filesharing party this weekend at our local hall. 30 people plus attending. Everyone should start one in their local areas, it’s great fun and you get files faster than the net.

    Filled 2 x 2TB drives last time I went. Worth going to one if you have one in the area.

  • Whatever

    Don’t count on UPC… Ireland is doomed.

    The same company in different countries has different ‘views’. UPC in NL would just roll over and give them anything they want.

    The ONLY reason why UPC is resisting is to collect as many customers as possible in the meantime. This is only a customer collection scheme.

    Or see the Dutch UPC CEO who calls downloading theft (Sorry, Dutch again and old news): http://webwereld.nl/nieuws/66035/upc-directeur–downloaden-is-diefstal.html

  • Kilmc

    I wonder how much its going to cost me to be a file sharer if I end up having to go VPN on it. At least I’m not paying those pricks though.

  • *D

    VPN is starting to become a necessity, not only for filesharing but for internet activity in general

    So yeah: fellow Irish get behind a VPN and don’t forget to LOL hard at the morons’ fail attempts to censor/block/mute the Internetz.

    :)

  • James

    Well. There are other filesharing options out there. Looks like the Irish may need to start using the anonymous alternatives like freenet , stealthnet etc.

  • RaVeN

    Screw VPN, screw public trackers, get a seedbox & use private trackers.

    Often been said, never been followed.

  • Anonymous

    @8
    Screw trackers, use DHT and PEX.

  • anonymous

    it makes no difference which ISP, mobile company, phone line enabled, cable enabled or satelite company is used for internet connection, thay are all going to follow what the entertainment industry wants. the only way they will fail is to not use the service. that is never going to happen. how long do people think it will be before VPN services are forced to keep records and make them available when asked? not long, i reckon. atm, the only companies not really being targeted are internet search engines. i doubt if it will be long before that will happen as well and they will be forced to filter search results. the cost to all except the entertainment industries will be huge, simply because they will be policing the internet, which is what has been wanted from day one. surely, if there is more than one way of obtaining something, the best way to make your way the most attractive, is to make your way the best, ie create competition. as that is not what the ‘industries’ want to do, i dont believe this whole issue has ever been about money, but about control. there has been no fight from governments either because they have either been brainwashed or bought or both. the ordinary person doesn’t matter, so long as money is paid out. personal privacy and human rights are out the window. basically, we are well and truely screwed, all in the name of greed!

  • markie

    Try a file hosting site like Megaupload. p2p wtf do people still use this.

  • Yarrr Matey!!

    Filesharing will always evolve to circumvent industry-written laws.

    As millions fear litigation and with many refusing to spend money on a VPN, a “darknet” will grow.

    The MAFIAA and the litigation whores that are now more integral in their industry than even the artists are, are engaging in an exercise of futility.

    Peer-relaying, packet re-sizing, sequential encryption and many other technologies to conceal data-entry-points and routes exist. Smart decentralized p2p networking already exists. The building blocks are all there and the only remaining issue is critical mass.

    The only thing holding the millions back from making the move is the sacrifice of speed. Transfer speeds would be roughly 25-30% of what they currently are thanks to the bandwidth overheads required to provide the integrated layer of anonymity. – But the more filesharers fear litigation, the more this demand will increase until it reaches a tipping point.

    It is inevitable.

  • dannyboy

    @5 i live in Holland but i’m from Ireland, and i’ve just read your linked article on upc NL, i totally agree with what you say, it’s a marketing stunt to get as many subscribers in asap!! KUT STICHTING BREIN!!

  • Dia

    @8 VPN is far cheaper and easier to use. I believe the same applies to cyberlocker services (you only need to pay for one service with VPN).

  • Ang3r

    This is more than a copyright-protection racket. (0h n0ez, my billion $$$ record company is ‘hurting’)
    It is control of the internet for and by police states, in the guise of copyright issues, with blame easily shifted towards corporate lobbyists and scandalous politicians.
    A lot of rich people, just got richer.
    The real issue will never be mentioned.
    The internet is a weapon for the masses, and a tool beyond all others.
    It was the anonymity, the ad-hoc structure, and the collective efforts of humanity that made it so.
    The ACTA will put an end to that.
    The EU, US, NSA, CIA, MI5 will ensure it’s effective, intrusive, and enforced, with no safe sanctions, quarters or domains for the consumer citizen ‘cattle’ to be ‘unregulated’.
    Guerrilla opinions and petitions to upset the ‘herd’ are quashed and removed for ‘protection’.
    Protection of who?
    Those pesky, helpless, powerless peasants who mutter about rights and democracy?
    Brian Cowen, Lenihan, the ironic Justice mcdermott, bilderberg member, selling out on the people he represents, i hope someone kills him.

  • meowmeowmeowmeow

    ok, fup this. can someone recommend a good VPN to a fed up vodafone customer?

  • 4mer

    Irma btw is one of girlish Lithuanian names =)

  • ubetido

    Right on Ang3r ! If anyone really believes that the internetz will be for anything other that “Farmville” and other mindless pursuits I strongly suggest they learn to read the writing on the wall.

  • ubetido

    Try “Hidemyass” works for me.

  • Kosta

    I believe most comments here are short-sighted. This is a good development, because I foresee that all these policies will have zero or no impact. Look at that number, 800 people have been issued a warning, on the biggest irish ISP network. That’s paltry. There are going to be no tangible results to the record companies from those 800 sent letters. Out of those 800, half might stop downloading music all together, a few hundred might become more careful, and a handful will actually say “Oh shit” and go buy an album. That is not nearly enough to justify the massive campaigns against file sharing. So my message to the record companies is, bring it, and see how that works out for you. My bet is on an utter failure, but they need to realize it themselves so they can finally stop blaming piracy for their poor business practices.

  • Reggit

    Do they really believe that all these people are going to rush out to their nearest music store and SPEND SPEND SPEND!!!

    Id say that, for the most part, these people will feel burned and betrayed by the record labels, plus would be left with little or no way of discovering new artists they may enjoy listening to. I dont really listen to alot of music – not “new” music anyway, but over the last few months ive spent hundreds of quid on games purely because ive had a chance to play them beforehand and decide if they are worth my money.

    I would lol so hard if the music industries get EVERYTHING they ask for, only to see their sales and profits fall even further =)

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  • b3r5erk

    Ang3r is right.

  • P-Diddy

    Go UPC !!!

    http://www.upc.ie/

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  • piratepal

    I am in the UK and have been using a VPN as a matter of course for about a year now, the best one I have found is Anonine

    https://www.anonine.com/en/start

    Speed has never been an issue and I have not had one disconnection to date, cost is very sensible and it’s nice to download all of my favourite films and programs without the nagging doubt of a letter dropping through the letter box.

    Long live TPB.

  • Anonymous

    Go VPN! Go VPN!

    Go Mute! Go Mute!

    Go Ant! Go Ant!

    Go Winy! Go Winy!

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  • Em

    Before signing up with UPC check the contracts and make sure how much they will force you to pay on disconnection prior to end of the contact. It’s like #5 said, it’s a customer collection scheme with dodgy contacts.

  • Anonymous

    “I wonder how much its going to cost me to be a file sharer if I end up having to go VPN on it.”

    Five box a month.

    I recommend predator.

    These guys keep no log and will rather go to jail rather than giving away any info to the corporation and parasites and their low life lawyers.

  • Ninja

    You just need argumentation and to have legit stuff along with downloaded. I’d send a reply to the warning telling the isp that I’d sue them if any other accusing letter arrived. Takes a tiny little bit of hard balls to make them stay still heh..

    Most cases that ended in problems to the file sharer weren’t well conducted.

  • Anonymous

    “Do they really believe that all these people are going to rush out to their nearest music store”

    If they believe this, they are right. We are going to rush to the nearest music store with Baseball Bats.

  • anon2

    once the entertainment industries have achieved all that they want, ie, getting everyone else to do their dirty work for them at their cost, wait and see how quickly torrent is used by them to do what is being done atm for free. as soon as there is no competition from so-called ‘illegal’ sites which give free downloads, the industries will be all over p2p simply because they will then be able to charge exactly what they want for a download. whether they will get as many takers as they think they will remains to be seen. i reckon they will be in for a short, sharp shock as very few are going to pay the same or similar amounts to download something, having payed for all the related costs to do so, as is being charged for a purchase from a shop, especially as drm will still be included on the downloads. time will tell.

  • Anonymous

    “once the entertainment industries have achieved all that they want”

    It will never happen.

  • Verthik

    It’s good to see people waking up and beginning to realize that this whole issue was never about money. It’s about control, control of the masses through mass communication. Once you understand that the same entities that own all major media also own the central banks, then this whole issue is thrown into it’s proper light. What do they care about money? They already have control of the sovereign credit of the vast majority of the constituent populations in all countries. Copywrite is just being used as an excuse to dominate and control a medium that is the greatest weapon we have for dissemination of information. If you want a preview of how they would like the internet to be, look at China.

  • Andreas

    Yeah, just go get em. Ban them from internet and bill them for several thousands of dollars, go ahead! Its surely the best option! Monitor all their traffic and make sure they don’t surf porn websites as well while you’re at it. Remove their privacy rights, hell, why not just ban freedom? Making a legal alternative where everyone are satisfied is just rubbish (see for example Spotify) YOU have to learn: IRMA knows what’s best for the people……………….. right?

  • anon2

    @ #33
    ‘once the entertainment industries have achieved all that they want’

    you may be right; i hope you are and it never happens. trouble is, look at the harm that is being done to the internet and to those who are completely innocent of any ‘wrong doing’, being harassed, disconnected or pursued through the courts under the ‘you are accused, so you are guilty, unless you can prove you are innocent’.

  • Realest

    @34 exactly. Its about control and it always has been.

  • OMG Now it’s football madness

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/10331583.stm

    And you thought some Movie marketing copyright was ridiculous.

    FIFA the MPAA of football!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    @13

    Do tell more please.
    What is possible right now and how can one achive maximum security?

    A link would be fine, too.

  • meowmeowmeowmeow

    @ 20 and 29:
    Thanks lads, i’ll give them a look.

  • pollasal

    Jesus Wept I can’t believe the IRMA are actually going about doing this.People won’t buy an album for just one song anymore.The decline of music in general is why the music industry is dying.
    Fifteen euro for a album that’s where your problem lies IRMA reduce the price of albums and people might bite they fined CDWOW for selling cds for less then retail so they’re going after the people now.
    People don’t necessary download because they’re dying to hear an album maybe to try out a new band sound etc etc.Next thing they’ll do is try and block Youtube at this rate.

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  • ROLF

    GOGO Ireland!

    get into VPN’s, go local, and use SSH to get your booze from seedboxes!

    don’t let those tech-unwise-fools take anything – make them think its ok :)

  • Freenet

    Fight back! Freenet (http://freenetproject.org) and Tor (http://torproject.org) are free and work very well.

    Even if you do not use it for yourself, setting up a Freenet node will help others escape the wrath of the media companies.

  • Monster

    I’m sorry we don’t play baseball over here…you can fuck off with your sports based legal threats.

  • Deviant By Nature

    It’s actually very simple this.

    The main input for these warninges / legislations / lawsuits and what not is the data gathering company DtecNet.

    Now from a pirates perspective, thwarting the efforts of this amateurish company is actually quite simple.

    Think about it…

    The probability of DtecNet using any kind of regular ISP connection (simulating a normal user) are slim to none. Such companies have in the past been and are still using hosting centers for the majority of their data gathering. (this is a cheap way to add to a data collection resource pool)

    Black list any hosting center IP from your P2P network and hey… the reports of people getting hassled would drop dramatically.

    At some point DtecNet would catch on to this and migrate into more obscure internet lines.

    So what would you do then… well what you should have done in the first place… use proxys… socks5 I mean comon… this have evolved so that people do not need a tech degree to use them :)

    Next up, use technologies that encrypt data transmission and technologies that are closed source. Ie. dont use programs that openly share their protocol standards. It does not take a coding guru to sit down and implement what is on a piece of paper.

    For the web/html based ideas… sure they work, but if you end up paying for a subscribtion, you might as well leave your address and phonenumber with DtecNet. All it takes is enough evidence that a given service is providing large quantities of illegal material and facilitating the sharing between normal people. Once this is established a simple court order can be issued to release the information of such accounts… at least in some countries where money is the defacto power leverage.

    But just for fun.. someone should find out what IP addresses are being used by any hoosting center around the globe… DtecNet would break a sweat trying to gather the data that their customers require…

    I could imagine that the data gathering companies would be bound by contract to deliver a minimum amount, otherwise the whole business wouldn’t be profitable for any of the involved parties.

    For free internet, go to personal ftp’s, personal and trusted p2p networks and remember to use an encryption scheme from outside the US.

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