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Music Royalty Collectors Accused of Copyfraud

German music royalty collecting agency GEMA has once again stepped up to enforce their strict copyright regime. But this time they picked the wrong target. The group mistakenly demanded money from the nonprofit organization Musikpiraten for publishing five Creative Commons licensed tracks. Musikpiraten is baffled by the false claim and is considering filing a complaint for copyfraud.

free music contestRoyalty collection agencies are known for going to extremes as they go about their business claiming money on behalf of artists and music composers.

They target schools and kids’ community centers, charge charities for the singing of Christmas carols without a license, and even crash weddings if they have to.

While these copyright collectors are very strict in forcing their rules onto others, they often fail to live up to their own standards. This attitude was brilliantly exposed by the Belgian TV-show Basta when it exposed local music royalty collecting agency SABAM for charging people to pay non-existent artists.

This week, German royalty collecting agency GEMA made the headlines with a similar mistake. The group is claiming money from the nonprofit organization Musikpiraten, for releasing a compilation CD featuring the winners of its Creative Commons competition “Free! Music! Contest.”

Musikpiraten received a 350 euro invoice for five tracks listed on the CD, a false claim for which the pirates are considering filing a copyfraud complaint.

“GEMA’s claim that they hold these rights is demonstrably false. All artists have explicitly declared that they are neither members of GEMA nor of any foreign royalties collection society. The demands are therefore clearly a copyfraud,” Christian Hufgard, chairman of Musikpiraten explains.

The false claim appears to have been sent because some of the authors have names similar to registered GEMA members. But even then, the mere notion that the CD features work from a Creative Commons competition should have made GEMA reconsider their claim. That didn’t happen though.

According to the Musikpiraten chairman, GEMA and other royalty collectors simply assume that all artists fall under their wings. This is an outdated assumption, especially in the digital era where many artists allow people to share and redistribute their work.

“Internet portals like Jamendo.com with more than 52,000 albums published under Creative Commons license are a proof that the principle of ‘all rights reserved’ is outdated. If an artist verifies to us or to another publisher that he or she is not a member of GEMA, this certainly must have more weight than the blanket assumption that every author is a member of GEMA or a similar society,” Hufgard says.

This is not the first time that a royalty collection agency has filed a false copyright claim, and some artists have even cancelled their membership because they do more harm than good. Michael Koch, singer and guitarist of “the.princess.and.the.pearl,” one of the bands who GEMA falsely claimed royalties for, is one of them.

“We don’t think highly of GEMA. I used to be a member, and our band actually lost a couple of gigs, because the organisers of small festivals were unable to afford the GEMA fees, of which hardly anything flows back to the band in terms of royalties,” he says.

“The fact that we, as non-members, must prove that our music has not been composed by a GEMA member, demonstrates that the society has too much power – and that it abuses it ruthlessly,” Koch adds.

A testament to the ruthless stance of GEMA is the fact that they didn’t immediately send a credit note when the mistake was pointed out to them. Instead, the royalty collecting agency suggested that the artists probably forgot to register the tracks with GEMA, and they asked Musikpiraten to convince them that the identical names are a pure coincidence.

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  • http://ompldr.org/vYWN3ag/see-what-i-thought-id-do-was-id-pretend-i-was-one-of-those-slut-whores-LOL.html w3ts1ut

    How do you fuck something up that badly? These guys have internet right?

  • Robogo

    Sue to them into the next millenium! This kind of God-complex behaviour has to stop.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JOGWUAPRWTZKWT7JPK52KZSG2E Kismet

      It has to but a lot of these people (and I am going to include Musikpiraten here as well) don’t have the b*lls to do so.

      They keep talking about suing, making them pay for their mistake etc and then back off like cowards.

      Do it, sue the bastards, set a few examples, let others follow you.

      Stop saying “we are thinking of”, “we might” and other BS, stop waiting for others to do something, if everyone waits for the other to do something NOTHING will be done.

      If Musikpiraten does have the nads to do it I’ll eat my words, till then put them in the same bin as the other chiuauas who make a lot of noise but don’t do anything.

      • Maroan

        Kismet, since you think it would be great if Musikpiraten would sue the hell out of GEMA, I assume you will contribute with some substantial money?
        Even in Germany a trial costs money, money Musikparat hasnt so much of.. But GEMA has so much money that they could appeal and appeal and so on, until Musikpiraten drops financially dead. And thats the problem of these “chiuauas”, they are very well aware that they cant win any cases in the long run, because of this damn money..
        Dont get me wrong: I would love to see GEMA go down as deep as possible, but as long as the system is biaised as it is now, its just impossible..

        • Royalyfree

          It seems by the article that they have proof on their side and the bands to stand up in court to prove it too so take the B*st*rds to court and once you’ve won the l0s3r5 pay the costs and all damages to you…

          Is that a no win no fee German lawyer i see knocking at your door Musikpiraten ?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Dilly/1624894683 Don Dilly

    Makes you realise how piracy figures become so skewed

  • Afdsgsdg

    These guys are hanging in the past and dont realize we live in the digital era now.

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  • Jimbo

    why would Musikpiraten be waiting, be considering taking action against GEMA? why should they have to convince GEMA of anything? if they think they are right, GEMA should be convincing Musikpiraten that they have made the mistake. if they think the music was produced by their members, prove it.take GEMA to court, expose them for copyfraud and screw them, as they would surely screw you (and any members of the public) if they had the opportunity!

  • Anonymous

    “Musikpiraten is baffled by the false claim and is considering filing a complaint for copyfraud.”

    For the love of , file the damn thing and screw them for every dime. High tide has come and it is time to crawl out of the woodwork and squeeze these dictatorial thugs (not just this group but all of them) for all their worth.

    “Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death!” – Patrick Henry

    • Anonymous

      Post edit still not working Disqus/TF :(

      “Musikpiraten is baffled by the false claim and is considering filing a complaint for copyfraud.”

      For the love of (deity of choice), file the damn thing and screw them for every dime. High tide has come and it is time to crawl out of the woodwork and squeeze these dictatorial thugs (not just this group but all of them) for all their worth.

      “Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death!” – Patrick Henry.

  • Mick

    On the other hand, why are they waiting to file ? Simple ….. they are not sure that all their free music is free. The whole digital age is a colossal f-up. Actually, anyone who believes that music should always be free ( F the composer(s), need to grow-up too. You can download your fav. music for free but, look what it now costs to go see your favourite band/performer live. 5-10 Quid, thru the 1970′s to late 1980′s . Now minimum 100+ for any even mediocore act. And no one can say that these acts, especially composers do not deserve their rightful dues. Plus, piracy is killing any chance of true musical inventiveness. This why we have to listen to Simon Cowell garbage. Now Gema is over the top but, this is what happens when a whole two generations think they can steal whatever they want.

    • Guest

      sharing is not stealing

    • Christian ‘Musikpirat’ HUfgard

      We are sure, that all music is truly creative commons. But we are a) not like the music industry and sue everybody at the first glance and b) we first want to make sure, there is a realstic chance to change something.

      I have better things to do than sitting around in a court. Promoting cc stuff for example. :) But we are currently thinking about ways how to prove, that the basic assumption of GEMA (every music belongs to us) is wrong.

      • C—–

        Not to mention cost. Generally there’s court fees and the like, and even with a judgement in Musikpiraten’s favor, any awarded damages (if there even are any, rather than just fines paid to the court) may not cover them.

        • kr0nz

          You can sue for court fees if u win

          If ur innocent you wont be forced to pay as long as you ask for it; never expect the court to just award u these things

    • Lynx

      Wow.. your price comparison from 40 years ago is the dumbest thing I think I have read.. So, if “stealing” is what drove the concert prices up what about gas? Are there people stealing gas that is causing inflation? There are so many things involved in the cost of a concert (venue, travel, etc) that it leads me to believe it is people like you that must work at these insane copyright police companies.

      At least the artist sees money from the cost of performing, vs a record company that just suppresses everyone robbing them blind.

    • Buyticketsfrommemick

      100 quid for ‘mediocore’ (sic) live acts? Where the fuck are you buying your tickets? ‘Dumbfuck Customer Ticket Sales Inc’? While you’re at it, I’ve got a bridge you might be interested in.

      A few examples from Ticketmaster:
      Kasabian Birmingham NEC – £34
      Kylie London O2 – £28.40
      Swedish House Mafia Milton Keynes £49.50
      Andrew Lawrence (comic) Bristol – £12 (£20 with full meal)

      Stop posting with your arse…

  • Okarin

    it makes sense for this sue-for-settlement forced subscription model as the lawsuit is just a way to make money regardless if it doesn’t actually make sense as for this model the end justifies the means

  • Anonymous

    lol, OK is anyone actally surprised??
    web-privacy.es.tc

    • Spocks Brain

      Is anybody surprised that you continue to troll adds on here??
      NO!! Flagged BTW!

      • Anonymous

        damn you.. i just wanted to post something like that lol :P
        also flagged..

      • Anonymous

        Just Flag it, DO NOT COMMENT on it.

        Disqus is rolling out a new system that tries to work from past flaggings. Your post would be dealt with as spam, as would theirs, and Sods Law says that the system will stop you from posting before it stops them. So don’t do it, mmkay?

        • Anonymous

          It would help a lot more if the comments actually get removed (like after a certain number of flags or something (which might not be too great of an idea.. just a brainfart)).

          I’ve reported a bunch of spam posts before.. and even days later, they’re still there, with only a couple actually saying “This comment was flagged for review.”
          None of them were completely gone.

          Lets just hope the new Disqus system works a bit better than that..

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  • Anonymous

    just to make a point… this is the kind of shit i see on youtube more or less every day (apart from the last example, which is also why it’s an older screenshot. I’ve only ever seen that once.. and that one time was scary enough..)

    http://i.imgur.com/L25OI.png

    I don’t think i really have to comment on the GEMA bullshit anymore..
    90% of all music related content on youtube is blocked in Germany because “it may contain music for which GEMA has not granted the respective music rights”..

    it MAY contain.. yeah right.. i’ve already seen videos with NO MUSIC whatsoever in them where that retarded message popped up.
    If you’re located in Germany, you’re fucked (to be blatantly honest).
    You might aswell stop using youtube completely, as you will run into blocked videos every few clicks.. (despite youtube trying to hide blocked videos from the search results).

    If anyone wants to see it with your own eyes: i’ve set up a virtual machine in VMWare with Teamviewer installed.
    Get teamviewer (.com), connect to the VM and browse YT using my connection (located in Germany) … and get frustrated pretty quick..

    just send me an email for the login details. I don’t care if you use a disposable email address to contact me.

    chameleon87@nurfuerspam.de
    (not using my main address because of spam. the VM is set up in a way that everything is reset after a reboot, so nothing you do will be saved)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Dilly/1624894683 Don Dilly

    because they Go sell unde schaft everybody

  • IhateGEMA

    I’m tired of having nearly every youtube video blocked here in Germany as well. It’s truly ridiculous how GEMA wants roughly 12 cents for every video streamed. It seems that GEMA hasn’t stepped foot in the digital age yet as they’re letting the artists signed with them lose fame and popularity that can be easily gained by Germany’s youtube audience. It’d be nice if Spotify launched here sometime soon, but the future seems bleak with GEMA looming over.

  • http://twitter.com/AlyssaBlindy Alyssa Blindy

    Just make it so if you want to post a link, you have to solve a captcha. That will solve our problem with spam which was discussed above. As long as it will allow for you to use the audio captcha, it is a great idea, I think.
    For the article:
    Just go sue already, it’s about time you do so. Or, give GEMA a week to confess their mistake, apologize, and so on. Just do something about it.

  • gudrun

    nuke the bastards, also disqus is copying 4chan with that don’t reply to spam move ,have you ever tried to post a reply to a CP thread lately, if you have how come you are still here?

    • i3o6

      Yeah, cuz not replying to spam is such an unique, brilliant and innovative idea it must have been copied from somewhere!!

  • Randy_Lahey

    “..and they asked Musikpiraten to convince them that the identical names are a pure coincidence.”

    Sorry, burden of proof always rests on the accuser.

  • Anonimouse

    Musikpiraten should have just told them where to go without explanation.

  • Hahahaha

    (Trumpet noise:)
    Waah Waah Wa aaa aaa aah.

    This is the kinda bullshit the music business ought to be going after before it goes after people who don’t make money out of what they’re up to. These buffoons give their whole sector a bad name. It makes the media biz’s whole rep look worse each time this kinda shit happens.

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  • Chaosritter

    I’m German and have more experience with GEMA than I ever wanted to…

    These guys don’t just collect royalties, they’re the Inquisition of the music industry!

    Seriously, they’re suying artists for playing their original songs in public when they don’t pay fees to them, even when they’re not even members. YouTube blocked pretty much every music video because GEMA thinks that fucking everything belongs to them unless proven otherwise. They’re taking fees for everything that “could” be used to makes copies of any media, including stereos, computers, printers, MP3 players, cellphones, even fucking fax machines. And we’re not talking about minor fees, a decent laser printer costs 87,50€!

    They’re even going so far to charge fees for license-free folk songs. Schools and churches are forced to documentate how often they copied which text sheet and pay once a year, usually over a thousand Euros. They’re also currently working on a new system that’d allow them to charge 0,50€ for every gigabyte on any writable media, including HDD’s.

    Thanks god I can easily import blanks from Luxembourg, otherwise I’d pay thrice as much as I do now…

    • http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

      It’s a sad picture of what’s copyright today. They keep yelling like parrots on how piracy hurts creativity but it takes just some sensible mind and reading to see that they couldn’t care less about creativity. It’s all about money.

      But I’m repeating myself and like tons of ppl from TF and other blogs. I’ve just read the high/low court article from Rick and it just illustrates the issue perfectly.

      I’m not against copyright. I think authors/artists/etc do need mechanisms to avoid commercial exploitation of their creations yes. But that’s not what happens today. As it is now, the best solution is to erase all copyright and start over. Or, if the companies keep having that much weight in copyright legislation then just abolish IP altogether. In the long term it will be better than the draconian and unfair system we have now.

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  • jenny32

    Why is it up to Musikpiraten to sue them?
    Copyright may be a civil matter, but fraud is a criminal matter.
    Shouldn’t they just have to report them to the authorities?

  • ME

    As long as artists keep using these mafia organisations, they’ll continue to work like they do.
    I think the solution is not to fight them back, but the inform the artists, and find options for them.
    With no people to “protect”, they can’t extort anyone either.

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