OiNK Makes a Statement Which Seems to Support the BitTorrent Hydra
Written by Ernesto on October 27, 2007After being hijacked by the police for a few days, OiNK.cd returned to its rightful owner. The tracker won’t return anytime soon but Oink.cd is now linking to a Google search that links to a list of private BitTorrent trackers.
Brokep wrote an article today summing up some of the alternatives to OiNK. Soon after that the OiNK admin updated the frontpage of the waffle site and put up a link to a Google search that leads to Brokep’s article: what to use instead of oink.
So basically, OiNK.cd is now linking to a google search result that links to a blog entry by Brokep that lists several private music trackers that have links (torrents) to copyrighted music albums.
The point OiNK is making here is that Google is no different from OiNK - both sites link to infringing content - something he earlier told Telegraph. The big question is: “is linking illegal?”
Besides making a statement, the revived OiNK website is also supporting “the hydra“. The problem the BitTorrent community has currently, is that a few big sites carry the majority of the weight. Resources need to be spread around in a manner which ensures that a few ‘big bombs’ are unable to dismantle major parts of the infrastructure, and by supporting smaller trackers to grow, the hydra will become even more invincible.
They can take one BitTorrent tracker down but others will grow. OiNK was without a doubt the most popular music BitTorrent tracker, but now its down, smaller trackers will be eager to fill the gap.
Update: The old index2.html was also transferred, with a few updates of course. Check the page source if you want a laugh, they actually used MS Word as their html editor.
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Waffleswaffleswaffles and jam!
Btw the link to brokeps blog is wrong you may want to fix it.
No it’s not, it works fine.
[quote]No it’s not, it works fine.[/quote]
Because it was fixed.
the OiNK.cd link seems to still open the hijacked page, whilst http://www.oink.cd works
But, what do I use instead of pink? :(
Works fine for me. I’m on open dns , so it may update quicker then your isp’s craptop dns server.
looool
The problem with many small trackers is the selection of links. You can find more links on a large tracker which has a wide variety of links instead of having to search many small trackers to find a link.
Maybe there is a way to span a tracker over multiple servers and still have a central ratio database or something like that?
LMAFO!
LONG LIVE OINK AND TPB!
Fuck You Riaa and co.
ahahahahahahaha
Danny:
Laughing my ass fucking off?
hmm….
Hooray for Crappy seeds! PB leave OiNK the fuck alone. It was great while it lasted, but if it’s anything like the clusterfuck that is the PB it’s better off just to let it die.
Focus on improving your own website before opening more.
Any more new about Pirate Bay supposedly getting raided?
lmao @ TonyStack
Your shit website ip - FDC Servers.net, LCC -antip2p
Thx, but I dont need you guys tracking me down :D
http://www.nowtoronto.com/issues/2007-10-25/music_feature.php
[quote comment="197665"]But, what do I use instead of pink? :([/quote]
They’re all pink on the inside…
Someone needs to create a BT tracker like Usenet, with multiple servers with the same data, spread over the planet, that update each other, then we’ll be unstoppable.
Wow! A google link was just added to the OiNK.CD site!
Suggestions for coming news:
* Former OiNK admin drives a Volvo.
* Somebody said something about OiNK, unclear what.
* OiNK backwards spells KNiO.
[quote]* OiNK backwards spells KNiO.[/quote]
Hey! That’s almost Kino, which I think is a video editing program! OiNK must be planning to make a movie site! SPREAD THE RUMOUR!
Someone deleted my fucking post of this awesome article. I don’t know why but every music fan should read it.
http://www.demonbaby.com/blog/2007/10/when-pigs-fly-death-of-oink-birth-of.html
OiNK doesn’t make a statement at all.
he just wants to say:
“look at them! they are as bad as
me! why don’t they get arrested?
it’s not fair! uhaaaa uhaaaaaa!!!”
freaking baby. get over it. if you are to dumb to protect your own freaking ass it’s not our fault.
it’s not a hydra. it’s a parasite, a disease of badly moderated, attention seeking public sites full of pop-ups and flashing adverts.
Good article Adamit. In short: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zTPDVkVFOs
lol index2 is epic.
me and a few others are working on a new site/tracker, and should be up and running shortly, mostly we need a place to host it, that wont get raided, lol guess we will wait and see.
@9
that sounds like an interesting idea, they raid one and the rest pick up the slack, with little or no interuptions.
Unity a VERY powerfull force.
[quote]it’s not a hydra. it’s a parasite, a disease of badly moderated, attention seeking public sites full of pop-ups and flashing adverts.[/quote]
What? TPB has adverts and popups?
Wait… You’re saying adverts and popups exist these days? I haven’t seen any in years. Firefox + Privoxy + Adblock.
Anyway, if you don’t like TPB, it’s pretty easy to avoid. Just don’t… Torrent at all :P
[quote]me and a few others are working on a new site/tracker, and should be up and running shortly, mostly we need a place to host it, that wont get raided, lol guess we will wait and see.[/quote]
Good luck. The community needs to be decentralized, not with a few big trackers but with a few big trackers and a whole lot of other sized trackers :D
Perhaps its an idea to have a template of a torrent tracker, and distribute that template via bittorrent, so that creating new sites is extremely easy.
a template of a torrent tracker… a bit like TBsource? http://sourceforge.net/projects/tbsource/
Then aren’t there also torrentbits and torrentrader or something? And there are some addons for forums to make them trackers.
[quote comment="197847"]Perhaps its an idea to have a template of a torrent tracker, and distribute that template via bittorrent, so that creating new sites is extremely easy.[/quote]
I can see your point,but it should be secure,cause you know people will be picking through it looking for holes and shit.
I was thinking more of an image that has everything preinstalled, including the actual web design front-end. Much like a live-cd, or an installable operating system disk.
Then, by having the whole system distribute the torrents to all the trackers, we can prevent any individual tracker from being the weak link. Perhaps something along the lines of a torrent of all the existing torrents?
In a sense, this is somewhat like the trackerless functionality that is in modern clients, yet would work at a different level.
@29, I know what you mean, but the security is inversely proportional to the number of features. As long as we keep it simple, and use software that has held the test of time (apache, mysql, php, etc), anyone who finds an individual flaw would be less likely to seek us out for exploitation, since there are tons of better people to exploit.
That being said, the main thing we would have to worry about would be a flaw in our own programming (namely the tracker), which can be minimized using certain programming practices.
A) Use something along the lines of PHP with sockets for the program, since this is not as inherently vulnerable as a compilable language such as C++. Plus we could easily program in functionality to sanitize unwanted characters.
B) By having it as an image, we could run it in a virtual machine. While exploitation is still possible (see recent exploits directed at virtual machines) it’d be much harder to break out of the sandbox.
browsing sourceforge i found a few others simalar to the link posted above, seems there are already quite a few “images” out there, ill look into them and see if i like any
[quote comment="197873"]A) Use something along the lines of PHP with sockets for the program, since this is not as inherently vulnerable as a compilable language such as C++. Plus we could easily program in functionality to sanitize unwanted characters.[/quote]
I just wanna point out, PHP has some design flaws that make it _really_ easy to make mistakes and write insecure software. Perl is somewhat safer, and I would recommend that for any new development.
Here’s a forum thread with a lot of the complaints about PHP security: http://4-ch.net/code/kareha.pl/1120533289/
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would you happen to have a link handy of redy to go perl based “image”
EZTV is down!
just use emule and everybody happy :)
http://www.emule-project.net
never forget :(
http://www.cafepress.com/neverforgetoink
Emule… are you serious?
@ # 37
Stupid CUNT.
I feel obligated to warn anyone checking out the .cx .la site that it looks 99% likely a scam.
1. They are hosted on a free subdomain in Germany
2.Their poll (recently added) on their front page is courtesy of nupolls.com. Surely, the original OPP team could have scripted a poll in-house?
3. They have spammed every Oink-related thread I can find using the aliases of old admins and mods (see above) When questioned for specifics, they grow hostile or strangely silent.
4. Ex-mod Paine is operating a blog with actual information regarding the post-bust fallout. It has yet to be proven wrong (yes, he is also selling shirts at no profit- something the scammers included –then deleted– an allusion to on their front page.
paine has said that all new Oink sites are fake- at least the would-be private ones (which this one has claimed to be) asking for money upfront.
5. The front page has evolved from barely literate to something more polished, easily confusing some.
6. Read the page itself- there impossible claims made there. I won’t say which ones because these theives have obviously incorporated feedback and have made their front more presentable over the last 2 days.
It wont hurt to see on Nov 1 if this is legit. Sorry for the long rant, but these fools don’t deserve a dime for ripping off the stupid and/or hopeful.
hey, doesn’t the new transmission automatically encrypt your connection, and allow you to ignore peers that aren’t encrypted?
hey, that’s news!
quit with the speculation. report news like you used to, torrentfreak.
[quote comment="197919"]never forget :(
http://www.cafepress.com/neverforgetoink/quote
wtf - WTF!
sad fuking pirate pigs?!?!
http://oink.cx.la
it is not tracker’s page just simple html. Oink was based on TBDev source code. so all trackers have almost same code gramatic structure.
this one looks as simple html.
please avoid this fake.
I use this link to search multiple torrent sites really quick..hope this helps some that dont know about it…
http://www.torrents.to/
Basically the cops edited the index.html on the main server to put there message. But Oink Owner still has control over the Oink.cd domain so he has changed the DNS settings to point to another server with the waffles page.
Blow up your plastic doll “Alex”.
Wanker
Well you guys love to download stuff so why not give anime, music and movies a go and games also at http://www.animedownloadz.com
[quote]Soon after that the OiNK admin updated the frontpage of the waffle site and put up a link to a Google search that leads to Brokep’s article: what to use instead of oink.
So basically, OiNK.cd is now linking to a google search result that links to a blog entry by Brokep that lists several private music trackers that have links (torrents) to copyrighted music albums. [/quote]
Do you have confirmation that an oink admin did the link?
As the DNS entries for the oink domain point to TPB DNS servers, it could have easily been done by brokep or another PB admin.
In fact, unless TPB gave oink some web space with FTP passwords my money would be on one of the PB admins having done it. If that’s the case, all the points made about what statements oink are making, as well as the headline for this article are incorrect.
But then you’d know this anyway, having pulled some redirection trickery of your own when certain domains were pointed here :P
@ post 35
eztv is having domain issues, but you can still use http://www.eztv.it or http://www.eztv.nl
Thanks to spirex @ http://filesharingtalk.com for the info ;)
any1 having problem with demonoid now?
The NEWS is OiNK will re-open 1st November at http://oink.cx.la
With anonymous utorrent!!!!!
[quote comment="198037"]http://oink.cx.la
it is not tracker’s page just simple html. Oink was based on TBDev source code. so all trackers have almost same code gramatic structure.
this one looks as simple html.
please avoid this fake.[/quote]
So is this page and what it says all a bunch of hub’ub or what? Cause OiNKv2 would be the shit.
I don’t get it how did ppl like #52 learn to write??
[quote] The NEWS is OiNK will re-open 1st November at http://oink.cx.la
With anonymous utorrent!!!!!
[/quote]
Pathetic lier.
@ post 49
thanks for the links
I can’t believe ppl are actually believing that Oink will ever exist again.
For your own sakes, you better hope it doesnt. Its dead, move on. Thats my advice.
There will be others, so let tha damn site die and allow a new breed to be born. Specifically NOT AND OINKv2 site.
Have you learned nothing? Don’t believe everything you read…
Ex-mod Paine has updated his list of current scamsites:
http://tehpaine.blogspot.com/2007/10/scamsite-news.html
http://i24.tinypic.com/jkf282.gif
lmao @ 58… so goddamn true
http://youtube.com/watch?v=K1cK23D8UWo
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eMhGzoLx0qo
well that scam site has 53,325 donations…so I guess someone is rich or OiNK is really coming back.
All sites asking for $ to resurrect OPP are fake! How many times does this need to be said?
i would donate to oink.cx.la if it were real it looks sketchy. oinkv2 looks like it could save my life again i will donate after it officialy opens again (if it ever does)
”The point OiNK is making here is that Google is no different from OiNK - both sites link to infringing content - something he earlier told Telegraph. The big question is: “is linking illegal?”
Similar situation happend over at TV-links. They just pointed to the infringing material, not actually host it. The only diffrence between a search engine such as google and oink/other similar sites is that it’s actually pointing out the offending material, and that, as far as I know isn’t against the law.
Above was posted by me ^^
[quote comment="198550"]i would donate to oink.cx.la if it were real it looks sketchy. oinkv2 looks like it could save my life again i will donate after it officialy opens again (if it ever does)[/quote]
I agree. Totally looks sketchy now, and when I opened it last a pop up came up, which is something that OiNK would never allow. So it’s not looking good.
oink is being replaced by another brand new tracker which has come from nothing to be pretty huge in the space of a day, certainly not called oinkv2 or anything obvious like that. those in the know, know.
[quote comment="198718"]oink is being replaced by another brand new tracker which has come from nothing to be pretty huge in the space of a day, certainly not called oinkv2 or anything obvious like that. those in the know, know.[/quote]
LOL.
hey check out http://tunebully.com - new community site… great place to upload your files…. as they say help the smaller sites grow… easy to edit your post add pics an even video :D
Scam the tracker with a Tor IP if you feel iffy.
Having the pirate bay reopening all closed torrent sites is hardly a hydra effect. It is only to keep all the eggs in one basket.
I really want some Waffles now…
Is the term “Hydra” just a concept or is this the name of a technology
that has been or is being developed?
Heres what I want to see:
Decentralized distributed bittorrent trackers.
Imagine if you could start running a tracker and within a short period
of time you would be running a tracker with a torrent index equal to
that of thepiratebay (plus every other tracker in the world)…
Basically when you join the cluster, all the other servers in the
world will update you, sort of like when you start downloading files
in a torrent, all the other peers start sending to you.
Is there something like this already?
[quote comment="198718"]oink is being replaced by another brand new tracker which has come from nothing to be pretty huge in the space of a day, certainly not called oinkv2 or anything obvious like that. those in the know, know.[/quote]
i wanna know…I loved OiNK, and OiNK loved me.
Heh, anyone notice how ‘The Hydra’ resembles how global insurgencies work?
Anyway, good news :o
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