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Arrr!! Pirate Hard Drive Offers Infinite Capacity

While some might correctly argue that digital products are more or less identical to their official versions in almost every way, that’s not always the case for the media they’re stored on. Catering to the storage needs of every video and audio junkie, Chinese engineers have now come up with a counterfeit Samsung hard drive – with infinite capacity.

samdrive3When it comes to copying products, the Chinese can show even the most prolific counterfeiters a thing or two. From knock-off iPhones to the latest blockbuster movies, this East Asia behemoth will clone anything you like, quicker than almost anyone else and in larger quantities.

Inevitably though, quality is sometimes a little lacking. A copy iPhone might look all good on the surface (until you use the OS), and a copied TAG watch might tell the correct time (twice a day at least), but sometimes buyers get a product that exceeds all expectations.

Over in Russia a computer engineer located near the Chinese border had quite a surprise when a customer brought a 500GB hard drive in for repair.

SamDrive1

According to the casing it was a very nice Samsung product, but somehow it had ceased functioning. Indeed, it hadn’t functioned properly since the beginning.

The drive itself reported its full capacity and initially seemed to behave correctly when files were transferred to it. The owner had apparently copied a 1.5GB movie to the drive, but somehow only the last few minutes of the movie were being stored.

Time to open up the case and have a little look inside.

SamDrive2

What you’re looking at there is a couple of large metal nuts (presumably for some authentic ‘weighting’) which are together caressing a 128Mb flash drive.

But here’s the clever bit. The drive cleverly sucks data in from the host computer until it’s full and then starts dumping data until all it’s left with is the last part of the file. All other files on the drive stay intact and the file size of the now incomplete file is reported correctly.

File-sharers are apparently buying these drives in good faith and are getting ripped off and left with nowhere to put their stuff. If we can find out the name of the domain selling these devices we’ll send it over to ICE so they can have it seized….

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  • Boo

    Arrrr! Infinite capacity!!

    • Anonymous

      It would have not been infinite capacity when the drive would only allow storage up to the formatted 500GB.

      The real trick here is to remap the physical address space using some USB controller paging.

      Normally if this is done by accident your 129MB would become 1 MB which overwrites the FAT destroying the format. So they had to preserve the FAT32 File Allocation Table (FAT) by only paging memory safely beyond the FAT. Say in this quick example the higher 64MB.

      So through some careful paging we can protect the FAT while providing loads of virtual address space.

      It is interesting how they stopped at 500GB when FAT32 would allow up to about 8TB. Something are beyond belief it seems.

      With such small real capacity file read/write would be very slow. Also the memory would wear out quickly and fail.

      I does its job in falling people though. You could write loads of movies to it but on the final write add 64MB of documents, MP3s and even the first 10 or so seconds of a movie. Those test files would play back fine allowing mugs to be easily fooled.

  • Boo

    Arrrr! Infinite capacity!!

  • Boo

    Arrrr! Infinite capacity!!

  • Anonymous

    lol, no way dude, that’s just too funny.
    http://www.Anonymous-Toolz.tk

    • ARTiST

      Thanks for advertising your site by posting a unneeded comment. Seriously.

      • ZungPoo

        NO.. use this New link .. I am a spamming twat

        http://tinyurl.com/3o6oqhu

        *** actually a funny link

        • DontKnow

          Like the http://tinyurl.com/3o6oqhu link :)
          he really is a spamming twat. FFS look at all the spam he writes in his disqus page. http://disqus.com/ZungPoo/
          70 comments ALL spam.

        • Big

          I’m more interested in the address of this spamming twat than the address of that fake HDD seller

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  • Iphreaki

    pretty smart scam…….alot of trouble for $50

    • Anonymous

      10,000 units later…

    • Anonymous

      10,000 units later…

  • Protectedmyass

    Well, out here in India, it’s not hard to find pendrives being sold by the hawkers claiming to have 250GB of data space, but thats just somehow they manage to format the drive to say that, like the time I tried burning a part of the iso of a dvd on a cd a long time back,only to find the CD saying it was not holding 4.7Gb of data. But I gotta congratulate these ingenious bastards. Using screws to weigh in the drive. Who the hell opens the casing when buying an electonic item?

    PS: There is something nagging me though. I have seen a DVD holding 125 movies, and believe me, I did all but crack it open, but I couldn’t see how the hell did he manage to do so. And yes, the disc worked. On the player atleast. And the quality was not bad at all. But what the? I have been on the lookout for more of such, now that I’m better technologically oriented, but can’t seem to fin them. Anyone ‘cracked’ one yet?

    • http://profiles.google.com/shadphoenix A Deadpan Nun Throws Rye

      It may have been high-quality XviD compression on a dual-layer DVD. I’ve seen claims of hours and hours of videos being able to fit onto a regular CD at high quality from VCD websites, but you’d think that it would be really popular if it worked.

      • Protectedmyass

        Thats the point. If it had been that great, it would have gotten popular. Evidently, it didn’t. Make your own conclusion.

      • Karina

        I had a cd a long time ago (over 10 years) that had 50 hours of video on it and it was a compact disk. A friend made it for me.

        • Gae

          I do remember a few years ago I had a cd that contained about 20 movies in almost dvd quality. Since then I have never figured how they compressed it so much and kept the quality.

      • BoSNiaN

        I does exist, and ive done it before (with CD’s atleast). CD’s are retailed by data size, but they should be by runtime…it is easy to overburn (thats the term) a 800MB video file to a 700MB CD-R (google KVCD).

    • Whatever

      Assuming you were watching them demonstrate it using THEIR own equipment:

      You think you were watching a DVD but in reality there was nothing played from the DVD but hdd/ssd OR there were no 125 movies (less than 38MB doesn’t allow for any quality for a 1,5 hour movie) OR there were 125 titles with a few actually worked which were shown OR all were small parts of movies… AND all may include faking the number of bytes in de directory (at least quite easy on FAT).

      (A 25GB bluray would be a 5 time improvent of quality)

      • Protectedmyass

        Well, it was me, watching on my own DVD player, and I played every single track on the disc. But, then again, I didn’t watch the movies whole, so your doubt as to small part of the movie might just hold true. Dunno, really, could be one of those ‘freaks of nature’.

    • Anonimous

      I’m guessing it was a pressed disk I can remember working on CD Pressing equipment that had 16X capacity and would play on a standard CD Player or drive. Yep 11.2GB of info on a single layer single sided red laser disk. Kind of makes you wonder if DVD’s where a scam.

      • Protectedmyass

        Pressed disc?

      • Whatever

        Any standard DVD player will play standard single/double layered DVD’s so it will still be 70MB a movie.

        It will not play improved DVD’s that hold more data or layers that use better technology than the player has. Some older cd/dvd players in computers for example won’t read DVD-R and even less of them DVD-RW disks because they predate them. Maybe you can save some space by skipping error correction (if allowed by the reading protocol).

        But let’s assume you would have 25GB (bluray) available. If every movie is the same size, each would still be no more than 205MB in size. This is still much too low for reasonable quality.

  • Kmilner

    It’s Chinese, what would you expect? Seriously.

    • Anonymous

      This is no surprise when the Chinese have been dumping bad memory on the market for years. The problem is that memory is expensive but they aim to provide the best market price.

      This means low quality construction and many bad units that should fail quality control but are instead sold on.

      Then the worst of them falsely state memory to a higher capacity when it is all in the format. Many like to go 8x and turn 1GB in 8GB (or 8 Gigabits) but yes they can even go this far.

      The best advice is avoid buying cheap memory from Asia but to pay the extra to buy good branded memory from a more local well established seller that you can return faulty memory to if needed. Less cost and hassle in the long term.

      This person no doubt got it off of eBay which is the world’s largest market for fake and counterfeit goods.

      • Anonymous

        8GB is not 8 Gigabits. Capital B is for Byte. Lowercase b is for bit. There are 8 bits in one Byte. 8Gb and 1GB are the same.

        It’s generally a good idea to learn how things work before you start spouting nonsense.

        • Anonymous

          Seeing that the whole point was to mislead then it should have been obvious.

          Yes they physically formatted a 1GB drive to 8GB capacity which can be done but write above 1GB caused memory drive corruption.

          Then they try to cover up their deception by saying their stated 8GB drive really meant 8 Gigabits. A reformat soon returns it to 1GB with many buyers fooled.

          Try to pay attention. I trust that clarified. Yes it does help to know your subject before spouting nonsense.

        • Anonymous

          That’s not at all the same thing your original post said.
          It helps to actually say what you mean if you want people to know what you mean.

        • Anonymous

          I find it humerous that you blamed me for falsely stating the memory size after I stated the “worst of them falsely state memory to a higher capacity” and then gave a brief example.

          I admit though that it was too brief to allow understanding for those people that do not know the subject.

          A request to clarify due to confusion over a suspected mistake would have been more friendly.

        • Anonymous

          Considering the general idiocy level of modern first-world populations, the first logical assumption is ignorance. If you’re not ignorant, congratulations :) Non-ignorance seems a rare feat in this world.

  • Whatever

    If anyone actually take notice of the writings on the cover then there is reason to be suspicious about it.

    Never seen any device that puts something like “Samsung HDD inside” so prominently on the cover. Also the specifications (just copied standards labels) are nonsens and overdone here as everything is limited by USB speed.

    But it is indeed something that you might not directly look at.

    I know someone that many years ago bought a cheap USB stick which also was half the capacity thus looping capacity (unreadable after writing) even after advising against it.

    • Anonymous

      I’ve had a few external drives that proudly advertised the brand on the outside; it’s not all that odd. The “1.5Gbps SATA / 3Gbps eSATA” on a USB device (let alone the mismatched SATA speeds) should’ve been a dead giveaway, though. If people would take a few minutes to learn some basic stuff about computers instead of expecting them to be magical do-everything-for-them boxes, they might not fall for this stuff…

    • Bionce

      yes that scam has been going on for a long time. I researched drives alot (mp3 drives) and almost fell for the scams but i researched it when i was going to buy it and then decided not to as it was a 512mb cleverly descuised as a 4gb or 6, or 8gb (the person had multiple auctions on ebay everyday with the scam merchandise for sale.

      • Anonymous

        Whats your paypal email address? I want to send you some money so you can buy some periods. I know they are getting a little pricey these days and not everyone can afford them. Please use the money to buy as many periods as you can and then actually use them. Thanks.

  • Anonymous

    Hopefully, someday 3D printing will reach the point where most people simply download designs off the net and home-manufacture all their hardware.
    Heh. Open-source software running on open-source hardware. Those would certainly be interesting times…

    • drugy?

      want some source with your sauce?

      • http://www.heavytargets.com Shaun

        Italian restaurants have been using “Open-Sauce” technology for years

    • Anonymous

      I’m all up for 3D printing, but I think it will be a long time before we have our own chip-fab clean-room plants in our living rooms.

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  • http://twitter.com/Rupaksh Bluepaksh

    ????

    =D

  • MC

    How is this P2P related?

    • pong

      Assuming because very few people outside of filesharers need 500GB or more.

      • IDIOCRACY

        don’t know, I got 3,5TB

        • John Doe

          Got 10TB. Still not enough.

        • Usb Who ?

          I own 15 2TB ext sata drives….obviously i just use it for my photos ;)

          ps : that’s my story and i’m sticking to it.

        • Usb Who ?

          pps : all western digital and seagate…none of that fake samsung crap btw

      • Anonymous

        Those who keep backups of everything need them, too. I’ve got backups of games where the original 5.25″ floppy has long since rotted away, backups of old version of software that has been discontinued, backups of patches to games which the publishers have stopped supporting, backup images of the CDs/DVDs of games on my shelf, etc. I had to move it all to a 750GB drive recently, too.

      • ObvTroll

        Yes, the government should ban 500GB+ Drives effective immediately, because they’re only used for illegal activities.

    • Lulz

      They’re making fun of the failures of the American government at stopping this kind of stuff.

      • http://twitter.com/uJonesing Utah Jones

        Hogwash! The American government is #1 when it comes to combating counterfeiters! Just look at how effective ICE has been at destroying file-sharing culture!

        Wait…

    • Mohsinman99

      Uhh..I think it’s the 1.5GB(+/-) movie transfer bit…that’s a regular size for some movies on P2P…

  • amm

    Thanks for the warning.
    BTW,This reminded me of that windows xp image that’s been compressed to 3MB!
    That was funny as hell for me; everyone i know fell for it even a friend of mine who is computer Engineering graduate.

    • tec
    • ARTiST

      Lol.. I remember those. “SUPER COMPRESSED ISOs!!!” yelled the sites. 8MB was all it took to save a dual disc game. Funny, I never managed to get those working.

    • Texassucks

      Well no one wanted to learn how to compress as a wikileaks leak was about 32mb but when extracted it was 3.5gb and people seemed not to care. I asked how the hell it was done and said that we shoudl trade files that compressed but no one seemed to care. I saved teh file somwhere i think to figure out one day. Unfortunately I live in a shithole called deanville texas that has dial up or the worst internet in the world that times out every 10 minutes because they won’t upgrade the internet here so i get fuked on everything. Fuck texas it sucks upgrade the fuckin intererrnet here you bitch

      • Guest

        Write the letter “B” ten billion times to a text file, then compress it. See what happens. Compression of text is highly efficient because of redundancy. Wikileaks leaks are text-based files. Mystery solved.

      • Don_Maxis

        Enjoy the country. =) You must be a yankee or somethin’.

      • Anonymous

        I’d say: Move from that Republican state before every single tank will rush you flat. (oh yea, Texas is a very slow state, get used to it, or move to ‘Frisco)

  • Some Guy

    LMAO that’s quite a clever little scam there, you gotta admit the guys who come up with these scams arent stupid at all.. Just gotta feel sorry for those who fall for it

    • Anonymous

      Nah, don’t feel sorry for them. I think they get exactly what they deserve for being idiots. Learn the basics about the product you’re using before you go buying it, and you might be able to spot the obvious fakes.

      • Your mon/dad grandpa/grandma

        You don’t feel sorry for me son?

      • Donotreply

        I do agree that these people should research these products first before parting with the money (more so for legal products like buying a 6870 and expecting it to run Crysis on 3 screens at a silk smooth minimum of 60fps or 120fps for 3D users) but I don’t agree that people should have to watch out for these scams in the first place.

        If the MAFIAA wasn’t so busy lobbying the US Government on copyright laws (and eBay actually took some responsibility for fraudulent listings on their site), maybe these scams would not be so prevalent and we wouldn’t need to educate these people about these scams.

        I think that above is the whole point for this article on TF; if the authorities in the US/etc weren’t so busy chasing a few people for downloading a few copyright infringing files across the internet (regardless of your views on piracy), maybe these (among others like that Nigerian Prince that won’t flap off from my email inbox) scams would not be so prevalent and we wouldn’t see millions (if not billions) of dollars wasted on these scams (real money that disappears from the economy, not the ‘every download is a lost sale’ propaganda by the MAFIAA and your friendly copyright trolls).

        fwiw petteyg359 – No I’m not attacking you; I just find these scams disgusting and am frustrated at the resources wasted on the poor cousin of copyright law (compared to it’s origins of protecting artists > publishers) we have today across the world that could be put to much more meaningful things like scam prevention, CP/CSA and other more important things.

  • http://www.google.com/profiles/108037014675127192334 Binary

    When I saw the first image, I thought it was a flash drive with its own USB port, allowing you to add another one top of it, and so on infinitely.

    LOL at the actual story, though.

  • Momo

    FFS, don’t tell ICE. ICE are censoring the internet, and I object to that in all forms and guises. This is Samsung’s trademark being abused and it’s their job to enforce it, not anyone else’s (if they don’t want to enforce it, they should lose it). Instead of having the government censor a website, Samsung should go after the people making and selling these.

    • Momo

      (I know you were joking, but imo ICE’s censorship is no laughing matter)

    • Anonymous

      *whoosh*

      • Momo

        *whoosh*

        • Anonymous

          *whoosh*

        • Momo

          *whoosh ©*

        • Anonymous

          You can’t copyright a term, only trademark it, and thus: *whoosh*®

        • Anonymous

          You can’t copyright a term, only trademark it, and thus: *whoosh*®

        • Anonymous

          *whoosh*

  • Sketch

    GOD DAMMIT, they stole another one of my ideas…..grrrrrrr

  • John Doe

    Lol I just fell off my chair reading this. Hilarious scam. Amazing to what extent the Chinese will go to make a quick buck. No wonder they have such a negative reputation when it comes to electronic products.

    This is why you mustn’t buy unbranded products from China. Always gotta buy products from reputed brands with a trademark. Even if they are made in China, atleast you can have lesser chance of getting scammed.

    • Anonymous

      Want some Chinese baby milk powder with added goodness?

      How about Chinese leather sofas coated with skin burning chemicals?

      At least their learning.

  • John Doe

    Lol I just fell off my chair reading this. Hilarious scam. Amazing to what extent the Chinese will go to make a quick buck. No wonder they have such a negative reputation when it comes to electronic products.

    This is why you mustn’t buy unbranded products from China. Always gotta buy products from reputed brands with a trademark. Even if they are made in China, atleast you can have lesser chance of getting scammed.

  • John Doe

    Lol I just fell off my chair reading this. Hilarious scam. Amazing to what extent the Chinese will go to make a quick buck. No wonder they have such a negative reputation when it comes to electronic products.

    This is why you mustn’t buy unbranded products from China. Always gotta buy products from reputed brands with a trademark. Even if they are made in China, atleast you can have lesser chance of getting scammed.

  • ArmoRus

    whoa a link to a russian post. nice.

  • TackySauce

    “Over in Russia a computer engineer located near the Chinese border “

  • TackySauce

    “Over in Russia a computer engineer located near the Chinese border “

  • TackySauce

    “Over in Russia a computer engineer located near the Chinese border “

  • Because You Can’t Torrent Beer

    Enigmax – you just got my hopes up with that headline… only to be dashed! :’( I was already planning to fill up a few Geopbytes which is 1000 Brontobytes which is 1000 Yottabytes which is 1000 Zettabytes which is 1000 Exabytes which is 1000 Petabytes which is 1000 Terabytes.

  • Qq

    It looks like a joke due to usb socket.

  • http://www.facebook.com/eric.boehm Jack Murdock

    The chinese concept of right and wrong never ceases to amaze me. Does it matter that people are putting their trust in you? Apparently only that you are making an easy buck. Bunch of thieves and liars.

    This is exactly why out country should stop buying things made in china. I thought we would have learned to not trust china after they put engine coolant in our freaking toothpaste.

    • Anonymous

      The MAFIA’s concept of right and wrong never ceases to amaze me. Does it matter than artists are putting their trust in them? Apparently they only care that the MAFIA makes an easy million. Bunch of thieves and liars. This is exactly why we should stop buying big media. I thought we would have learned not to trust the MAFIA after they were caught withholding billions of dollars of money that belonged to artists.

      The telcos’ concept of right and wrong never ceases to amaze me. Does it matter than consumers are putting their trust in them? Apparently they only care that they make easy billions. Bunch of thieves and liars. This is exactly why we should stop buying from big ISPs and switch to municipal networks. I thought we would have learned not to trust the telcos after they started implementing arbitrary caps and false advertising.

      You’ve got a lot of work to do at home before you go on a travel spree.

    • Borderliner

      > The chinese concept of right and wrong never ceases to amaze me.
      I wouldn’t pin the problem to the Chinese. Every nation has scammers, China just happens to be the one with the highest number of citizens.

      > This is exactly why out country should stop buying things made in china.
      What you are forgetting is the price. You don’t want to shell out more money than neccessary, and the corporations want to make the most out of those dollars that you give ‘em. Hence they need a cheap(er) product.

    • Whatever

      Ok, i’ll add to it…

      The German concept of right and wrong never ceases to amaze me. Selling linux satellite receivers using their monopoly to have too high prices compared to the low costs of the creation of the device. While at the same time the Chinese can copy it and do for less than a third to a fifth. Does it matter that people are putting their trust in you? Apparently only that you are making an easy buck. Bunch of thieves and liars.

      The Ebay concept of right and wrong never ceases to amaze me. Pretending to sell or buy and then not delivering the goods or money. Apparently only that you are making ans easy buck. bla bla bla….

      Sorry Germans and Ebayers, just adding to a points here.

      BTW: The MAFIAA is the last place anyone should put their “trust” in.

  • Pico

    What do you guys think about this drive offer?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Western-Digital-My-Passport-Essential-SE-1-TB-USB-2-0-/160570523040?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item2562bfbda0

    1TB WD My Passport for $35 from China when they’re going for around 70 to 80 normally.

    • Marius

      If you buy hard drives in volume ( 25.000 dollars minimum), the price is about 21$ / TB at most hard drive manufacturers.

      However, that one on eBay may be refurbished or something like that.

  • Anonymous

    This listing clearly states several times that this drive capacity is 100GB which is only 1/10th of 1TB. The title though says 1 TB and the stated model (BABM0010BBK) is for the official 1TB version.

    Some small trader over 6 months on eBay but with only 29 feedbacks for cheap coloured glass jewelry and none for electronics.

    Risky in my view when it is likely to be clone (counterfeit) and not official hardware. They may well do official in that size if you want to check. Still if you did buy one you are likely to end up with 100GB.

    You get what you pay for and ones as bad as the above news are quite rare.

  • Anonymous

    This listing clearly states several times that this drive capacity is 100GB which is only 1/10th of 1TB. The title though says 1 TB and the stated model (BABM0010BBK) is for the official 1TB version.

    Some small trader over 6 months on eBay but with only 29 feedbacks for cheap coloured glass jewelry and none for electronics.

    Risky in my view when it is likely to be clone (counterfeit) and not official hardware. They may well do official in that size if you want to check. Still if you did buy one you are likely to end up with 100GB.

    You get what you pay for and ones as bad as the above news are quite rare.

    • anonymous

      WEll, i hvent seen ANYTHING that states, that it is ONLY 100GB…. and ive read it twice,
      wich mady my Eyes burn…. :D It says, Capacity is 1000 GB, not 100GB
      i cant find anything suspicious, other that, its on ebay (from China), and the Seller….

      ITs cheap, and if he really has that money to spare on a hunch, he should save it, and get a good Drive from a local hardware store….

      • Anonymous

        This listing says…

        Product Description
        Carry your digital applications wherever you go with the Western Digital BABM0010BBK hard drive. This 100 GB hard drive gives you plenty of room to store your favorite videos, songs and other multimedia applications. Create back up of your data automatically and continuously and restore lost files easily with the Western Digital portable Hard Drive’s WD SmartWare software. This 100GB hard drive allows you to carry critical files and mails between office and home and keeping them in sync.

        It also once says… Capacity 1000 GB

        So a very mixed listing of two different sizes.

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  • SteRipper

    I’ll bet you 50 bucks the owner of that drive got it from eBay.

    • Marius

      The story is from Gizmodo – a person living in Russia close to the China border bought this and then came with it to a service center in Russia ,,, and that guy reported it.

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  • http://steroids.homepage.ph/ Steroids

    they have been selling fake sony memory sticks for years that promise bs bit are only 100mb.

  • Jay

    Haha, that is so messed up.

  • http://www.Ilovethewalkingdead.com Ilovethewalkingdead

    Dirty!

  • Blood

    China – Land of fakes.
    I brought many infinite capacity memory products myself .
    128GB =4GB
    16GB =2GB

  • Ninja

    Well, the pic of the internal part of the drive was worth a real rofl.

    But we do have infinite capacity together. The only problem is that it isn’t instant access. You need to fire up a torrent ;)

  • Ninja

    Well, the pic of the internal part of the drive was worth a real rofl.

    But we do have infinite capacity together. The only problem is that it isn’t instant access. You need to fire up a torrent ;)

  • Anonymous

    Well that is really crazy. Another piece of crap made by these Chinese people. Can buy at low rates but less efficient. Nothing to be proud off.

    We help Americans find jobs and prosperity in Asia.
    Visit http://www.pathtoasia.com/jobs2/ for details.

  • Yesiinhale

    The ebay auction is a scam. you will not even recieve the hard drive. had the same thing happen to me awhile back. same seller diffrent name it seems as well. the thief i dealt with also had sold a bunch of beads before starting to sell hard drives. after alerting ebay they got my money back to me but still was a pain in my arse.

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