Pirate Party Presents ACTA Alternative to European Parliament

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April 27, 2012
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Pirate Party MEP Christian Engstrom and the Pirate movement’s founder Rick Falkvinge presented their views on copyright reform to the European Parliament this week. The Pirates want to bust the myth that their ideas only center around legalizing file-sharing and offer what they see as sensible alternatives to draconian legislation such as ACTA and SOPA.

“Today’s copyright legislation is out of balance, and out of tune with the times. It has turned an entire generation of young people into criminals in the eyes of the law, in a futile attempt at stopping technological development.”

These are the first words of a new book that two Pirate Party icons shared with all members of the European Parliament this week. copyright reform In a time where copyright laws increasingly violate basic human rights, Pirate Party MEP Christian Engstrom and Rick Falkvinge want to break this trend.

Instead of merely pointing out what is wrong with current proposals such as ACTA, they’re going a step further by offering alternatives.

“We feel that there are many people who know that the Pirate Party is unhappy with copyright legislation as it stands today, but who are unaware that we have a constructive proposal as to how it should be reformed. We are not just complaining,” Christian Engstrom told TorrentFreak.

In the early years the Pirate Party was often jokingly characterized as a bunch of spotty nerds who simply want free stuff. While this perception has changed somewhat in recent years, especially when Christian Engstrom joined the European Parliament, there is still a need to clarify the Party’s position.

“We wanted to explain why this issue is about preserving fundamental rights on the internet, and not just about getting free films or pop music,” says Engstrom.

“The battle over ACTA has made many politicians aware of the fact that freedom on the internet is an issue that citizens (a.k.a. voters) care about, but most mainstream politicians are not very familiar with the issue.”

The book gives a broad overview of how the current copyright monopoly is starting to degrade free speech and people’s privacy. Internet censorship proposals have become commonplace and alleged pirates are punished without due process, all without any clear evidence that more stringent measures actually cause a decline in piracy.

Therefore, one of the key issues of the book is to offer alternatives. The Pirate Party doesn’t want to abolish copyright, they want to reform it. For example, the moral rights of authors would remain unchanged, but all non-commercial copying would be legalized. In addition, DRM woud be banned entirely.

“I am hoping that the book will be helpful in that respect, and that the timing is quite good right now. If we manage to stop ACTA, the natural question becomes ‘okay, so what should we do instead?’ Then we have a realistic and sensible answer,” Engstrom told us.

Those who are interested in reading the book can download it for free in several formats. A paper version is also available on the self-publishing platform Lulu.

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YARIGHT

and quickly shoots self right in foot and next elections disappears and dies ….UNLESS You push copyright down to 10 years its a no go period.
- Guest
  
  10 years?
  
  Wasn’t it originally 1 year? Let’s go back to that. And while we’re at it, let’s make the rights non-transferrable from the artist. That way crooks won’t be able to erect copyright cartels ever again.
  - Anonymous
    
    just as Robin implied I’m amazed that a person able to earn $5615 in one month on the computer. did you see this page>>> http://toearnusd.weebly.com
  - Anonymous
    
    just as Francisco responded I am shocked that a mom able to get paid $4946 in one month on the internet. have you read this web page>>> http://toearnusd.weebly.com
  - Anonymous
    
    just as Francisco answered I can’t believe that a mother able to make $7987 in a few weeks on the internet. have you read this==>> http://earn2usd.blogspot.com
- Anyone
  
  down to 20 years is already progress
  and since non-commercial copying would be legal I don’t see the problem.
  
  copyright should only apply to people wanting to make a profit, and for that I think 20 years are appropiate.
  - Esn
    
    Down to 20 years PLUS mandatory registration after 5 years. I think if that were implemented, it’s likely that quite a lot of the things I like would enter the public domain after 5 or 10 years, as companies cease to exist or lose interest. It would also greatly encourage translations of foreign texts, something that is extremely cumbersome at the moment (as a translator, you basically have no rights and no bargaining power).
- http://otester.myopenid.com/ PiRat
  
  IPR needs to die altogether.
  
  PP is weak.
  - Anonymous
    
    No, not quite.
    
    Trademark is an IPR. There’s nothing wrong with that. Identity theft is bad whether the affected is an individual citizen or a company.
    
    Paternity right is also an IPR. Same here. Creative commons and every open source project is clear on this – if you created a piece of work, your right to be recognized as the creator should never be challenged.
    
    Commercial copyright is bad. But it’s arguably the least bad of two evils. The main problem is that the protection periods are insane, and the law draws no clear boundary between not-for-profit and commercialization.
    
    The Pirate Party is far from weak. We try to build something which works. And that means tearing down roughly 90% of how IPR is handled today and keep the few sane and proportional parts which make sense.
- Anonymous
  
  as David implied I’m surprised that a single mom can get paid $7803 in one month on the computer. did you see this link http://tomakeusd.blogspot.in/
- http://www.facebook.com/Point5communications Will Buckley
  
  so you would be willing to honor copyright for 10 years. Really? Doesn’t that go against your new order stance that technology dictates right and wrong?
- Anonymous
  
  as Elizabeth replied I am inspired that a student can profit $9372 in 1 month on the internet. did you see this page==>> http://earn2usd.blogspot.com
Cujo

QUOTE: It has turned an entire generation of young people into criminals in the eyes of the law

don’t forget us older folks too

hey what’s going on with demonoid ,, redirects to .ph lol
- Anonymous
  
  agreed. it’s not just this particular generation caught up in the outrageous copyright fiascoes that are going on atm, it’s all age groups. in a way the older age group more than the younger, because they have next to no money to defend themselves and little to no computer/internet knowledge either, except booking holidays and e-mailing family pics. easy meat, in other words!
- Stop copywrong cartels
  
  when domains starting getting illegally seized, they pre-emptively relocated theirs.. Good for them.. i stop by there for fresh DLs often..
  - Anonymous
    
    Indeed, one who takes something belonging to others is a thief!
    
    Stop ICE domain seizures NOW!
- 7seven85
  
  Its always safer to change your domain for another jurisdiction when you run such a website.
  When all the MAFIAA’s eyes are turned and locked on the .me domain, then Demonoid just told them to go fuck themselve, and changed their domain.
Anonymous

the problem isn’t that the majority of politicians dont know about copyright, it’s more a case of not understanding it in the digital age, not wanting to upset major contributors to either their political fund or their party’s fund and most importantly, not giving a flying fuck about the people that got them their job and who they are supposed to represent!! we have seen the contempt that the US House has treated citizens there when they totally ignored calls for the stopping of CISPA. that went through and was done in retaliation for the protests over ACTA. even the vote was brought forward so there was no chance of public protest. the same will happen in the EU. the sensible approach wont happen. what citizens want and what would be good for all, will be dismissed
- IDIOCRACY
  
  according to dutch newspapers, Obama will veto cispa
  - Anonymous
    
    He also said he would veto NDAA 2012, and he signed it anyway.
  - Guest
    
    …The white house threatened to advise Obama to veto it. He never said anything of the sort.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Alexander-Anderson/1094485930 Alexander Anderson

Death to DRMs!
- Jmorse43508
  
  At least one major book publisher, Tor, the largest of all book publishers in the science fiction genre, have promised no DRM on any of their e-books.
  
  Kudos to them. Now if only others would see the light and abolish DRM. It is particularly bad when it comes to e-books and can ultimately hurt publishers.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Craig-Schumacher/100003467649250 Craig Schumacher

The problem is everyone in american politics is bought and paid for. we need to clean house, starting at the top. vote these idiots out of office.
- Guest
  
  And the reason they’re all ‘bought and paid for’ is your 2 party system, all a politican have to do is be somewhat less bad than his opponent. Changing to a european-style democracy wouldn’t solve the problem but it would help ^_^
Anonymous

I will accept a 70 year copyright (even though it is way overkill) if they made non-commercial copying of data 100% legal. No more of that “Grey Area” in the law.
- Kicking K
  
  I agree … but they need to get rid of the copyright 120 years after the artists death (or whatever amount of years it is).
  - Hayden
    
    The Berne Convention sets copyright at life plus 50. For any countries adopting the Berne Convention, this is a minimum. Canada is L+50. The United States is L+70. For corporate works in the US it is 95 years from creation of the work. That’s all I know off the top of my head.
    - Anonymous
      
      I believe Falkvinge and Engström have covered how the Berne convention can be dealt with in their book. The convention does not set the time span in stone.
- Anonymous
  
  Assuming you can opt for a more liberal view on “orphan works” yes, possibly. Right now as things stand, vast parts of the cultural heritage, even if it’s ostensibly “ownerless” can never be published or even copied for safe keeping.
Niklas Logren

Banning DRM seems like a weird proposal. Why shouldn’t companies be allowed to do with their products whatever they like? Banning certain kinds of distribution (or files) from the internet seems like a very anti-internet thing to do.

“That file is illegal, [since it's encrypted using DRM]. Since you provided it, you’re a bad person. Off to jail you go!”.
Does this remind you of anyone?
- Anyone
  
  because restricting how you can use a product that you bought is basically fraud.
  
  if I buy a song I expect it to work on any of my devices, that is not possible with DRM
- Anonymous
  
  Not so weird. In any paradigm where you are allowed to make copies of your purchase, DRM is essentially, consumer fraud.
  
  Anyone remember what happens when, for instance, your DRM-protected files certificate expires? You basically, as a consumer, run a very serious risk of purchasing a book or movie with a built-in planned or unplanned obsolence date.
  - Niklas Logren
    
    I don’t think any distributors are claiming that you can do whatever you want with their DRM-encrypted files. They’re pretty clear abut the restrictions, so I fail to see how they’re “fooling the consumers” or committing fraud.
    
    Don’t get me wrong, I hate DRM just as much as the next guy. It just seems obvious to me that the distributors should be allowed to sell their material in any form they like. If I sell you a movie encoded in a proprietary format which self-destructs after you’ve watched it halfway through, that should be okay as long as you know what you’re paying for.
    
    My point is, consumers will eventually stop buying media in weird formats, and pirate instead. After a while, the companies will adapt and offer DRM-free files.
    
    Do you think we should establish a list of “banned technologies”?
    - Anonymous
      
      No I don’t. To be honest I think where DRM is concerned, Rick goes a bit too far. Far better to go down a more traditional route and leave it for the open source sector to create workarounds and hacks. I have no problem with a DRM’d media file, as long as I can sanitize it and so make a backup without the intrusive lockdown.
      
      However, I can see where he’s coming from. DRM is open to abuse in a way which would never be accepted by common consumer law in ANY physical item sold.
- Anonymous
  
  It’s no more weird than this BS system of purchasing a *LICENSE* rather than a copy of a program (or application to you computer news :P) this idea of a license to run a copy of software is brain numbingly retarded at best.
- Anonymous
  
  It’s no more weird than this BS system of purchasing a *LICENSE* rather than a copy of a program (or application to you computer newbs :P) this idea of a license to run a copy of software is brain numbingly retarded at best.
Master X

True that.

They should be allowed to protect their files with whatever protections they wish. Even then, it won’t stop certian groups from completely removing those protections.

Anyway, supplemental to this, make private torrent sites illegal, as well as sites that charge for membership. Sharing is caring folks, and private torrent sites and membership fees are not staying true with this philosophy.
http://twitter.com/shvelo96 Nick Shvelidze

Copyright sucks!
http://twitter.com/icanhazsake Ninja

I haven’t read it but I agree with his general standing. I do believe we need protections to avoid commercial (ab)use of intangible goods. But as he wisely points we need to narrow it to what really is commercial use and leave personal non-commercial stuff out of the mix. And we have to protect the EXECUTION of an idea not the idea itself or we’ll end up with stupid cases like totally different pictures (executions) from the same set up wanting to eat each other over copyright claims.

The Pirates were indeed lacking some concrete activity other than being opposition and dissenting voices. I expect this to greatly push their votes upwards.
Mwhahaha

“all non-commercial copying would be legalized”
…and there we see an end to all professional literature.

I’m for sharing with no direct payment, but flat out legalised piracy for non-com purposes will kill the book market over night.

Musicians can gig, films have the cinema and product endorsements (as does TV), but other than having rights purchased for TV or film, authors have no other way of earning a living from what is a hard and long process.

The ideal solution for me is for new distribution methods which are supported by advertising or to even use a system of micropayments so we’re not paying OTT amounts for just watching a show for half an hour.

I’m never against paying for content I enjoy, what I’m against is monopolistic, self serving media companies with their inability to see the future.

A blanket legalisation on sharing is quite near sighted and I’m guessing not supported by any real research based evidence. If this ever came to pass (which it never will) the creative industries’ outputs would all look like highschool projects, because that’s who would be making the content.

At the end of the day someone has to be paid to make this stuff. Right now companies are top and bottom slicing a lot of the money a product earns and that has to change. But the person with the creativity still gotta earn a wage unless you want, say, one episode of Family Guy every 5 years which they make whilst keeping down full time jobs.

TPP are too idealistic and lacking sight when it comes to the wider ramifications of free for all sharing.

We need FAIRER PENALTIES for piracy (RRP costs)
We need BETTER DISTRIBUTION METHODS from producers
We need a SMALLER COPYRIGHT PERIOD
We need LESS MONEY for the PRODUCERS

We don’t need TPP’s bullshit rhetoric.
- Anyone
  
  there is no viable alternative to decriminalizing non-profit filesharing
  
  the only alternative to that would be an orwellian internet, surely that is not desirable.
- Guest
  
  “flat out legalised piracy for non-com purposes will kill the book market over night.”
  
  Bullshit. So many people are already filesharing that if piracy was capable of killing the book market, then it would have. A long time ago.
  
  “If this ever came to pass (which it never will) the creative industries’ outputs would all look like highschool projects, because that’s who would be making the content.”
  
  Copyright only exists inside the heads of the MAFIAA at this point. It’s not something that exists in the real world anymore. Do you think the creative industries’ ouput all looks like highschool projects right now? Because right now, we’re living in a world without copyright.
  
  Now, okay, I’ll grant you that Hollywood and the recording industry’s output are like highschool projects, but that’s been the case since way waaaaaaay before filesharing.
  
  “We don’t need TPP’s bullshit rhetoric.”
  
  I’m pretty sure it’s your bullshit rhetoric we don’t need. The wider ramifactions you’re warning us about would have happened by now, and they didn’t. You’re trying argue against TPP but you’re got no argument.
- Anonymous
  
  Read what Orson Scott Card, Neil Gaiman, Cory Doctorew, Paulo Coelho and many other authors have to say about that.
  
  To summarize, they, being professional artists and extensively fileshared, do not agree with your opinion one bit.
  
  I hate to break it to you but TPP’s rhethoric is far from bullshit. Your commentaries regarding the death of the book business, however, is.
  
  If there’s a great looming threat for the book business, sthens syou hould read what the authors themselves say – namely that people today simply don’t read enough.
- Guest
  
  There are many corporations that intentionally purchase books for commercial interest. I’m not talking books on risk management or something, but actual novels and things for purposes such as improving client/customer relations, improving worker morale, and etc.
  
  Books will still be purchased as well. Many people will still pay for the convenience and benefits which can come from purchasing things through a company.
  
  Finally, there are places where people can come together to fund creative projects, such as writing books. I expect this will become more and more popular as time goes on.
Kicking K

Odd that they are called pirate parties … http://i.imgur.com/oZ27d.jpg

Should be called sharing parties tbh.
- Esn
  
  ”Sharing Party” sounds like something that you’d be teased mercilessly for joining, though.
- Anonymous
  
  Our adversaries would still call us “pirates” no matter whatever name we gave ourselves. So we might as well take that name proudly and redefine it.
  
  And it’s worked pretty well.
  
  In the words of Gandhi:
  
  First they ignore you.
  Then they laugh at you.
  Then they fight you.
  Then you win.
Esn

It’s a very nice book. Easy to read, concepts explained concisely! I noticed a few small spelling mistakes here and there, though. For example pg. 4, “contct details”
http://torrentfreak.com/ Rob8urcakes

Although I haven’t yet read it, I suppose “The Case for Copyright Reform” is a sorta Pirate Party manifesto and, if it is, it’s long overdue and a VERY welcome addition to the changing political spectrum of the 21st century.

That said, I look forward to the day when we no longer need to form new single-issue political parties simply because the mainstream parties are too narrow-minded and short-sighted to properly represent our very real concerns and interests in this rapidly changing ‘shrinking’ World in which it’s as easy for us to speak with someone half a Planet away as it is to say Hi to your neighbour.

I’m so looking forward to their words of sheer, unadulterated wisdom (with a sneaky thanks to http://www.copyrightreform.eu/ for hosting the book).
Anonymous

best of luck to them but if Christian Engstrom and Rick Falkvinge can convince those in the EU parliament that DO NOT WANT TO LISTEN OR SEE what is wrong with todays copyright and what it needs to bring it into the 21st century, into the digital age, then i’ll be Dutchman’s uncle, as the saying goes!! they haven’t got a hope in hell! Jeez, there are still dopey fuckers there that want to try to ‘fix’ ACTA!! if that doesn’t wipe away any and all confidence in them getting anywhere, i dont know what will!
- Anonymous
  
  Actually, largely due to some pretty fervent legworking by Christian and his staff, the greens managed to pull the liberals on board as well which now tentatively gives the ACTA naysayers a majority.
  
  Plato’s old principle still applies. “Those too wise to engage in politics are doomed to be governed by those who are more foolish”.
  
  Or in my own preference, it’s better to light a candle than to curse the dark. Politics is the game in town. Either be part of the process or shake that fist in impotence when people decide things over your head.
  - http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell
    
    What we really need is for the legislature to suggest laws and then the PEOPLE THEMSELVES vote on those laws, i.e. a true constitutional democracy in all the countries all over the world.
    
    Back in the 1700′s, that wasn’t feasible. With the internet today? More than feasible.
    - Anonymous
      
      Except that electronic voting removes one factor from the equation – the ability to keep your political affiliation a secret. I wouldn’t trust ANY government today to implement electronic voting and not to abuse the information they suddenly possess regarding who votes for what.
Anonymous

http://goo.gl/2Zdqx
Free Internet

If we have stupid politicians in Government, then maybe we should stop electing them.
Anonymous

It is nice to see that they are being productive when that is what most counts. So they handed books out in the EP with around 100 pages all about what can be done.
Anon

It won’t matter who you elect or reelect. If the public wants their government programs and employees the taxes must be paid. The flow of value manifesting in cash can come from any source to maintain the size of government, but it must come from a different source if legalized sharing impacts on that original revenue stream.

Otherwise, government will do whatever it must (and wants to) to protect the cash and size. A government will never accept a forced downsizing through unlawful means without a fight. Only when the people throw it over will this end. And the people will never throw it over. They will accept whatever they are handed in new laws and enforcement regarding privacy and sharing as long as they can FACEBOOK and it’s free.
- Fredrika
  
  > “It won’t matter who you elect or reelect. If the public wants their government programs and employees the taxes must be paid.”
  
  Well than it’s a good thing that non-profit filesharing doesn’t hurt society, tax revenues or the economy, but actually helps it, according to those independent studies that has been made in the subject.
  
  > “The flow of value manifesting in cash can come from any source to maintain the size of government, but it must come from a different source if legalized sharing impacts on that original revenue stream.”
  
  Which it obviously will, because the free market effect, as in the result of people saving money by choosing a cheaper competing retailer, or even manufacturing the goods or services themselves with their own property, as people filesharing does, has never meant that money disappears from the market, it actually helps the market to develop and combined revenues to go up. Legislative monopolies on the other hand, has always been something that hurts the market and the economy.
  
  > “Otherwise, government will do whatever it must (and wants to) to protect the cash and size.”
  
  The US government will learn over the next decade to sit nicely, roll over, and do what their economical superior counterparts EU and China tells them to do. That’s the way it works. A smaller economy have no leverage against two larger economies.
  
  > “They will accept whatever they are handed in new laws and enforcement regarding privacy and sharing as long as they can FACEBOOK and it’s free.”
  
  You don’t seem to be following the political climate in Europe that closely.
  - http://profiles.google.com/zerianis10 Christopher Kidwell
    
    With all due respect, the United States is still a bigger economy than the EU AND China is not much bigger of an economy than us at the moment.
    - Fredrika
      
      > “With all due respect, the United States is still a bigger economy than the EU..”
      
      No. EU is bigger than the US whether you use GDP or PPP numbers. US is only biggest of you count individual countries, which you don’t do when you compare EU and the US.
    - Guest
      
      Christopher, you’re an imbecile. With all due respect, the European Union is a bigger economy than the US and China. The EU is the largest economy, market, and exporter in the history of the world.
    - Anonymous
      
      Not to mention that given the current debt, China is a well-to-do economy still with booming exports while the US is under both a crippling trade deficit and a catastrophic debt…both towards China.
      
      The US has made some spectacularly bad calls for a long time now. I believe your military budget is still some 40% of what every nation on the entire world spends on the military in total. That’s a lot of money invested in other things than internal prosperity investments.
      
      Whereas China is using that sort of cash to build infrastructure and generate a bigger at-home consumer market and industry.
      
      The EU is facing much the same problem, given that every member state has had to be bribed into accepting the lisbon treaty with heavy-handed guaranteed massive subsidies.
      
      Imho if we want to look at the most healthy economy today, China is it. After that comes Brazil. Both of which are surging. The EU and the US are right now driven by nothing but inertia as their economies are actually crumbling.
- Anonymous
  
  Actually you are wrong on all counts. This exact copyright battle has already been fought half a dozen times over – when radio was invented, when vinyl records, the cassette tape, the vcr and the CD were invented.
  
  And perhaps not so oddly, the pirates have won EVERY SINGLE BATTLE in the end. Which is why it is today in most jurisdictions in the world fully accepted and legal to make as many copies as you like of physical media.
  
  Before modern times, “governments” have attempted to curb piracy by going as far as butchering thousands. It hasn’t worked. So unless you are advocating genocide and/or mass incarceration of people whose only “crime” is making a copy of a media file, then I hate to say that government has no power what so ever to make that fervent wish of yours a reality.
  
  Judging by previous “anon” commentary, of course, we’ve already heard that case being made. As well as for suggestions that rape is a good punitive measure in piracy cases and that due process is a waste of time. So color me not very surprised, troll.
- PelouzeTF
  
  Good boy, Anon! That’s telling them! Now come under the table, daddy Pelouze has some candy for you.
Anonymous

Sounds liek a rock solid plan to me dude. Wow.
Gotta-Be-Anon.tk
- Your Nemesis
  
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irate Party MEP Christian Engstrom and the Pirate movement’s founder Rick Falkvinge presented

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Tabris

While the idea of reforming copyright laws in a way like this sounds better and better to me the more the content industry tries to violate my personal rights (whether I’m being a pirate or not I might add!), my concern with this approach has always been that they’d turn their sights on websites and services that they’d argue were indirectly profiting from people downloading and uploading their content, e.g. ISPs, YouTube, seedboxes…any website that makes ad revenue, really. Is there something in the proposal that addresses this?
Guest

Nice to see them proposing something smart.
The tetting rid of DRM bit is something that’s not mentioned that much but it’s still something that would only benefit everyone.
Most DRM is implemented simply “because it can so why not”, like if it was some harmless safety messure most comapnies opt to use because it gives them a false sense of accomplishment.
It gets cracked, it is useless and it only wasted their money, made the product worse and delays progress.
Seriously, DRM is intentional sabotage of a product, why are they even allowed to sell something with DRM messures? At the very least they should require big warnings and penalties like any harmful vices.
Esn

Ok, guys! YOU REALLY NEED TO PROOFREAD THIS BOOK!

It’s a great book, really accessible and well-presented arguments, but there are errors every few pages, mostly little grammatical things like using it’s instead of its.

And this sentence on pg.69 is really confusing: “In 1999, 70% of the artists made less than 9% of their total income from record sales, and in 2009 this went down to 50%”.

So most artists now make MORE than 9% of their income from record sales? Or was “50%” supposed to be “5%”? Or was “less” supposed to be “more”? I honestly can’t tell what you were trying to say here.
- Fredrika
  
  > “And this sentence on pg.69 is really confusing: “In 1999, 70% of the artists made less than 9% of their total income from record sales, and in 2009 this went down to 50%”.
  
  So most artists now make MORE than 9% of their income from record sales? Or was “50%” supposed to be “5%”? Or was “less” supposed to be “more”? I honestly can’t tell what you were trying to say here.”
  
  50% should compared against the previous number of 70%.
  - Esn
    
    Yes, and if you do that, it seems to be saying that “in 1999, 30% of artists made more than 9% of their total income from record sales, and by 2009 this had jumped to 50%”. Which makes no sense, because all the other statistics and graphs are saying that record sales have been FALLING, not rising.
    - Fredrika
      
      Yup, you’re right, i’m wrong, must have thought backwards earlier. I’m guessing it should say 5% not, 50%. I tried a quick glimpse in the Norwegian report, which i think that number was from, couldn’t find 70%, 9% and 5%, but a drop from 19% to 11% for all artist, not just 70%, and 19% to 11% could be 9% to 5% if you remove 30% of the artist, those who earned the most i assume.
Anonymous

the biggest reasons this will be ignored and therefore fail are that it is too sensible an approach, it goes completely against what big businesses and governments have been used to getting (ie, what THEY want) and it actually gives something to the very people who matter the most, customers!! such a shame!!
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