Pirated Teaching Materials Threaten Health of China’s Youth
Written by Ernesto on September 15, 2009China’s Anti-Pornography and Anti-Illegal Publications Office has booked a huge victory by preventing the country’s youth from accessing more than 4 million copies of pirated teaching materials. According to the vice director of the office, such materials “harm the healthy development of the country’s youth.”
The National Anti-Pornography and Anti-Illegal Publications Office has the task of educating China’s youth on copyright issues, to ‘purify’ the publication market by removing pirated and illegal publications. The office launched a new campaign this August targeting pirated education materials, a campaign that turned out to be a huge success.
Less than a month after it was launched the office has already seized more than 4 million pirated teaching materials. As a result a massive 182 printing companies were shut down as well as 100,000 stalls where the illegal teaching materials were sold.
“The situation of illegal publications is generally under control… However, pirate issue is still obvious. Those pirated teaching materials especially harm the healthy development of the country’s youth,” Li Baozhong, vice director of the National Anti-Pornography and Anti-Illegal Publications Office, said at a press conference earlier this week.
Baozhong did not elaborate on how knowledge and education will harm children’s health, but we assume that it has something to do with content that the Government may not approve of. How educational materials could hurt one’s health remains a mystery though.
China is of course known for its censorship and notoriously blocks websites that may ‘harm’ its citizens including Wikipedia, YouTube, Flickr and Facebook. Interestingly, BitTorrent sites have never been targeted and almost all of the are still accessible today.
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131 Responses
China has an evil Goverment.
@1:
eh… yeah!
Sounds like time to move to ebooks :D
No one better steal my name on this topic ive copyrighted it!
Hack the world!, fucking governments how is it harming them? it helps them to learn…
Unsurprising in itself. What IS impressive is how efficiently their government worked to shut down such a massive number of areas.
In comunism, there is a full need of idiots as workers.
Intelectuals are a threat to the government and their numbers must be controlled.
Also, anything that is or might be a threat to their ideology must be completly eradicated.
The threat is not for China’s youth, it’s for China’s party, as the youth might find out about democracy, human rights, knowledge etc.
some corrections- wikipedia is not blocked anymore, and the pirate bay was not accessible before the shutdown.
@7 I agree with you.
“The National Anti-Pornography and Anti-Illegal Publications Office has the task of educating China’s youth on copyright issues”
You mean brainwash right? Yea that’s it, I knew I read that right.
Hong Kong is still pretty much the global center of piracy and the Chinese government profits greatly from it, hey have nothing to lose from “crimes” that harm forgein corporations. What they’re doing here is nothing short of blatant and complete hypocrisy.
Damn those children for wanting to educate themselves!! How dare they! They should be instead hitting the playstation and doing drugs so they can end up like the typical American high school idiot who becomes gun crazy and kills a bunch of people at school!
For those of u who have not experienced living in communism, let me tell u that unhealthy teaching manterials can mean almost anything the government wants. U would get arrested and thrown into jail for reading or spreading the wrong books. Under any dictatorship, there is a long list of books, movies and music that were considered decadent. U could get imprisoned if someone told the authorities that u where consuming the wrong kind of capitalist culture.
The trouble is not the efficiency with which the chinese authorities acted. The problem is that the american authorities and many western european goverments bribed by the MAFIAA, consider the chinese model of crushing piracy a worthy example.
China beats up thier citizens while in chains ,, sick
I love Red China.
My kind of people! <3
@12
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@everyone else
don’t feed the troll please.
To those of you too ignorant to think for yourselves, withing being told things explicitly:
By ‘harming the youth’ they most likely mean that it hurts their morals. You know, their morals regarding NOT STEALING and ethics.
Common sense, ftw.
I hope nobody minds…
@14
yeah, and the United States’ rapes and tortures its prisoners, and Christian priests rape their altarboys.
AMERICA FTW.
I play with my poo
and they’re busting our chops over a few shared files … they got so much more they could be doing
Nobody responding to this article knows anything beyond what western media wants them to know.
You think the US or England is better? Only in some sense. The suppression of the mind is happening all the same.
@22: Even the illusion of democracy is far better for the people than a straight dictatorship.
There are levels of freedom and China is at the bottom I even think that Russia is more open even though every single person that spoke their minds against the government(Russian) died mysteriously.
But seriously, gloating about not letting children learn is not the pinnacle of good publicity one may think it is.
If we could pirate food, I bet the headline would look like this:
Case in point: This is completely retarded.
@23
Guess what, China is not a dictatorship.
At least the Chinese can blame it on the party leaders, people in the US and England are complicit in the acts of terror via satellite their gov carry out.
I think they mean mental health, by ways of honesty and trust.
Pirated material would be considered stolen and that’s not good for a child to have in there mind at a young age.
I think once your 12 or so it’s OK to steal stuff since you can form better judgment.
@26 oh really? so you say China is a truly democratic country, right?
I’d suggest you go and live there…
@25
You can pirate food. It’s called theft/looting.
A few thousand people get arrested every year in the US for what you’re describing buddy.
:)
I was hoping to read the comments and not have to ask, but why is a company responsible for weeding out pornography also taking the task to get rid of school books – I assume they’ll do their best to re-create world war 2 and have a book-burning party.
Hey ReasonedMind: No one likes you. If you want attention, run into a church completely naked on sunday.
these methods are spreading to the west too.. if people doesnt wake up soon they will find themselves in an even worse fascist one world government
the big part of that campaign is actually about closing down those printing companies which steal copy righted materials,such as text books and punishing those ppl who sell those books. say a text book sells at 40 quid in the bookshop but after being pirated and ‘re-printed’ with poor quality, they could be as cheap as 5 quid at the cost then eventually are being sold at 15 quid on the market. would any other country allow that to happen? think about the tax revenue for instance.
it’s always amazing to see how medias can brainwash their own ppl in every country. I’d say there’s no perfect government as it’s all about the minority ruling the majority. chinese government may sounds evil in some ppl’s eyes but those so called democratic govenments are not necessarily angel either.
btw,this is a comment from a person who actually lived in different countries for years, not like some comments from those who never got to the other side of world.
@CRK
Are you a know nothing neocon or just a know nothing?
China is a socialist-capitalist state with an academic-focused society. China is a mid industrialized nation with conditions unlike other advanced nations during their period of industrialization, meaning, it’s not all blight and rosy but people’s lives are improving. The big difference is that it’s industrializing at a much faster rate than others, and as such has paid its price – namely social and environmental. It’s to be expected.
Just about the only big difference is that China hails from a completely different tradition – dynastic. US is the only country founded on the principles of democracy (hypocritical for nonwhites but still) and it’ll be the only one. Every single country that was forced to adopt the democratic way is hopelessly corrupt and crestfallen. Other who take up the mantle by choice are better but cowtow to caapitalist-imperialist influences now and will never be able to grow strong enough to challenge the old western powers.
China’s progressing just fine provided the communist party continue to ease up like they’ve been doing since the 80s. They’ve evolved the same level of materialist means by different philosophies all together and are not encroached by corporate-imperialists, instead they’re partners.
Japan, Philippines, South Korea have foreign military bases in their countries and Vietnam does not. Neither does China. I have no illusions that China has huge problems to deal with, being 4 times more populous than the US, but it is its own sovereign state and that’s why the new generation of Chinese kids are nationalist dispite problems, cus no Chinese will ever tolerate the kind of foreign colonialist-imperialist influence that went on during much of the 1900s and the beginning of the 20s.
@ CRK
Oh and I have lived in China before.
Am i getting this right,
i think i must be dreaming . im sure this says that children are damaging the health by reading teaching materials.
i no they has some strange rules. but this is by far 1 the worst thing i have seen come out out china. what a load of nonsence.
if a kid wants to read a book let him.
god what ever next.
what ever next are they going to take away the newspaper because people may get ink on there hands and damage there health
Mr. x, another idiot
do you really think that kids are demanding to read books? kids are kids, kids begrudgingly read books to get ahead. some do better than others. not many kids are gonna DEMAND to read books you fool
that removed-from-reality angle of “kids demanding for knowledge” is completely media manipulation
gorehound:
“China has an evil Goverment.”
Who doesn’t?
I always wondered why I would see chinese users connected to me in bittorrent. Now I know.
China is much more business and growth friendly than the United States was/ever will be.
For a country of China’s size, the government handles its proceedings as best as it can.
The US struggles to deal with 300 million people. Imagine how it must be to deal with over 5 times as many.
@30
I’m sure that you’d love to have the site, where you could all post your blind, one-sided views without hearing opposing arguments (so that your fairy-tale world where you’re the heroes continues to exist), but one way or another, someone has to feed the TF commenters with a dose of reality.
in the meantime my big comment at 33’s still awaiting moderation…
@38 Sep 16, 2009 at 02:16 by SomeGuy:
Sure China have a lot of slave workers literally that is why is so business friendly LoL
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article1938288.ece
@40
How about an article that isn’t 2 years old?
@41:
How about you show us some proof that back up your big mouth about what you say instead of just talk?
You know talk is cheap and you have yet to produce any proof of what you say in this forum.
http://www.shanghaidaily.com/sp/article/2009/200906/20090623/article_405078.htm
http://www.china-labour.org.hk/en/node/100551
http://www.time.com/time/asia/covers/1101020617/cover.html
http://talkingunion.wordpress.com/2009/07/29/china-labor-watch-labor-violations-bogus-standards-in-wal-marts-chinese-supply-chain/
Wait, weeding out porn? You must be joking.
Those are the conditions in an industrializing country. While some prosper, others suffer.
You think any country that had undergone industrialization doesn’t suffer through this?
http://www.antislavery.org/english/press_and_news/news_and_press_releases_2009/200809_jail_for_dvd_pirates_who_used_chinese_slave_labour.aspx
Not to mention China is industrializing within a single generation?
Man don’t be posting wildly if you don’t know. You’d just make a fool of yourself.
Not to mention China is industrializing within a single generation?
Man don’t be posting wildly if you don’t know. You’d just make a fool of yourself.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8063038.stm
http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/community/news/vam/blog/report-says-chinese-factory-like-slavery/?cs=30440
In communist China the computer pirates YOU!
@50 Sep 16, 2009 at 03:04 by Reasoned Mind, js:
And that makes slavery ok because?
@50 Sep 16, 2009 at 03:04 by Reasoned Mind, js:
By the way I will agree with you, some get wealthy and others get screwed that is why a love P2P I get the chance to screw others(the industry) for a change LoL
It is a beautiful way of thinking, we will digitize the world and will screw the industry and push them to the curb and let you people fend for yourselves and I will sleep like a baby after that LoL
Who said it’s okay? What da hell are you talking about?!?!
Do you even read the articles you pull off of google? Illegal trafficking and profiteering of forced labor are serious crimes that are severely punished in China.
Suffice to say you don’t know anything, about China or otherwise.
I can’t talk to you right now. You need to educate yourself, read, do something.
wtf
China was born out of piracy?
cz
Yep a read them all and I can tell you right now that the one about sweet shops is not about work is about a murder and was my mistake the rest just shows what “business friendly” really means in china LoL
i call bullshit
http://www.businessweek.com/2000/00_40/b3701119.htm
At least since 2000 wal mart keeps using slaves to produce what they sell and didn’t do anything about it in a practical or meaningful way.
About the need for education, I doubt you lived in china or you would know that the work force is hostile to foreigners and that many companies that tried to established themselves there where faced with a work force that didn’t work until the foreigners quit and surrender all manufacturing to the chinese government that made those same workers work 10 times harder then before. And you would know that there are 2 sets of rules, one for home companies and another for foreigner companies also you would know that the chinese people are scared to talk in public about their government in any way. So don’t give me that patronizing tone when you yourself seem more ignorant then the rest of the world.
The one thing I like about how the government conduct business is that they don’t respect any IP or copyright from foreigners and thus are growing fast copying everything they can put their hands own LoL
Xexe!
In China slavery and sweatshops are only horrifying crimes if it is done by a foreigner or it gets out in the open otherwise if you lived in China you would know that the authorities turn a blind eye to this kind of thing and that is why so many articles keep poping about the subject.
Now you will tell me that they have management issues, well they block most of the internet, they have special units to monitor the public but you are telling us that they can’t control slavery and sweatshops?
Well when it is to bust subversive educational books they can bust dozens and find them all around the country but when it comes to slavery and sweatshops they are powerless?
I’m such a douchebag
China’s culture is thousands of years older than the culture of the west. They are doing their best. I <3 China!
The best for the government not for the people and although their culture is thousands of years the current political system is not.
china is a country which growth is a direct result of piracy. anyone who says different is a fool. china has been pirating goods for many upon many years. most of the product we use and wear are made in china, even the most sort after. look at your DVD, blue-ray, pants, shirt or your most expensive prize technology or whatever materialistic thing you hold dare. guess what 9 out of 10 it’s made in china along with the pirated version. china pirates everything down to your toilet seat(don’t believe take a look.so to talk about “harming children’s health”, if piracy is the cause it has already been done. If piracy has a grandfather his name is china!!
@67 Sep 16, 2009 at 04:42 by sp:
Wrong before China was Japan, before Japan was the U.S. and before was Europe, every single country on this planet did it.
And no the harm to children come from unscrupulous people not necessarily only pirates.
Anti-Pornography and Anti-Illegal Publications Office…..?????
Wow I can’t believe these are both the same departments LOL
68 Sep 16, 2009 at 04:59 by Anonymous
my point exactly.
also want to say china took piracy to a level no other country has.
Woops looks like I just stole your name! Oh nos!
F*c.k the chinese government, f*c.k mafiaa. Can’t stop the information age. Can’t stop file sharing. Encrypt everything, stay anonymous, stay active, use guerilla tactics against corporations, and vote pirate party.
It sounds like they have outfits straight out of 1984. Double plus good anti-whatever office for tiny-penis men who like control.
Oh, and yeah, I don’t live in my mothers basement. I have better quarters than that even. I live in an underground telephone vault. No really, I just pull the metal lid up when I go ‘home’ and climb down the ladder. It’s kind of tight but I have a whole f*c.king bedroom down here.
http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm FTW
I just downloaded Monsters vs Aliens and the second season finale of True Blood, all in high def. God bless bittorrent and those who care enough to share! I love you guys!
@70 Sep 16, 2009 at 05:24 by sp:
Sorry my fault, I was referring to the statement that China is the grandfather of piracy, that is not true as others came well before China LoL
ps: I don’t know why but handle “reasonable pineapple” made me laugh.
F k the chinese government, f k mafiaa. Can’t stop the information age. Can’t stop file sharing. Encrypt everything, stay anonymous, stay active, use guerilla tactics against corporations, and vote pirate party.
It sounds like they have outfits straight out of 1984. Double plus good anti-whatever office for tiny-wee-wee men who like control.
Oh, and yeah, I don’t live in my mothers basement. I have better quarters than that even. I live in an underground telephone vault. No really, I just pull the metal lid up when I go ‘home’ and climb down the ladder. It’s kind of tight but I have a whole f*c.king bedroom down here.
http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm FTW
F k the chinese government, f k mafiaa. Can’t stop the information age. Can’t stop file sharing. Encrypt everything, stay anonymous, stay active, use guerilla tactics against corporations, and vote pirate party.
It sounds like they have outfits straight out of 1984. Double plus good anti-whatever office for tiny-wee-wee men who like control.
Oh, and yeah, I don’t live in my mothers basement. I have better quarters than that even. I live in an underground telephone vault. No really, I just pull the metal lid up when I go ‘home’ and climb down the ladder. It’s kind of tight but I have a whole f*c.king bedroom down here.
http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm FTW
sorry for double plus ungood post *grovels slovenly while mewling*
knowledge is power
@24
“There are levels of freedom and China is at the bottom I even think that Russia is more open even though every single person that spoke their minds against the government(Russian) died mysteriously.”
Do you really think that Russia nowdays is still an evil empire behind the iron curtain? There are plenty of newspapers and internet sites who openly oppose the current government and say things quite different from what one may hear from official media, not to mention talking on the street. The problem is that it doesn’t result in any political change.
Still I don’t see mass arrests and mysterious deaths for statements againsts present-day politics.
Problems usually come to officials who publicly criticize the government or resist joining the ruling party.
It’s not the freedom I’d like to see of course but yet it’s not that dictatorship that western media try to see in Russia nowdays.
” Interestingly, BitTorrent sites have never been targeted and almost all of the are still accessible today.”"
Incorrect the piratebay has been blocked for months
Anti-Pornography and Anti-Illegal targeting pirated school books…
yes hoorai, i mean child pornography is ok, .. but say no to learning material from the free world or it will corrupt the youth…
unfuckingbelievable… how fucking retard do they think people are.. ofc their controling peoples knowledge but to say its pirated… lol its human right to be able to acess such knowledge. its human right to say 1+1 is 2 , its not any government right to tell u what to say nor any fucking lobbying for industries to choose enslave our future.
@ 22
i research both open source media and newsreport from different sources,
yes there are alot of things happening around the world but media companies are owned by private corporations who aim to profit and not to tell the news.
so meanwhile you might hear whats going on in Bhurma or Haiti, but newsreporters spread lies about for example obama healthcare “death panels”, or simple show more sports crap that only retards care about.
thankgoodness for the internet to know whats going on these days.
and people should go for the internet for better news and criticize current stupid media.
china is one of the worlds biggest jokes!
@78 Sep 16, 2009 at 07:37 by Wednesday Addams:
List of journalists murdered in Russia.
http://cpj.org/reports/2006/11/russia-murders.php
On BBC in 2001:
You tell me because if I was to use a term for the actual Russian government I would use “Authoritarian Dictatorship”, which I think is pretty bad.
I lived under one once and I know one when I see it.
There is no trace of communism in China.
That’s just the term that’s been used by american propaganda over the years, so people feared communism.
China is a brutal oligarchy, like the usa or every other occidental countries are. Except it’s closer to the concept developped in Orwell’s 1984 than the usa.
And don’t be fooled by such words. Since the patriot acts and guantanamo, the difference between a totalitarian state and a “democracy” in the media’s sense, is as thin as cigarette paper.
It’s good there are still people to think they live in free countries, thanks to you sheeple, the world keeps following its path to global state terrorism.
@83 Sep 16, 2009 at 09:23 by @ CRK:
At least people got to complain about guantanamo and not end up in jail that is plus isn’t?
But in china you would end up in a secret jail LoL
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/09/world/asia/09jails.html
China isn’t a communist nation it’s closer to socialism. Doesn’t matter anyway, it’s fucked no matter what you call it, but that doesn’t mean you should call it a form of government that has been given negative meaning because of our capitalist view on life and is in-fact a very good idea however nigh impossible in practice due to the fact that a community where everyone is equal could only be accomplished in very small groups and still then would be impossible simply because as pack animals humans must always have someone who leads them.
They most probably only shutdown the publications that they wanted to censor. And the numbers reported is likely to be made up. What an ignorant government, they could’ve stop piracy on other things rather than on education.
Why would a torrent site be interested in China’s pirated books is beyond me, it looks like none of the commenters above know much about China or actually lived in China, and the last thing I want to do is discuss China in a torrent site, hehe.
But just to clarify, what they meant by “Those pirated teaching materials especially harm the healthy development of the country’s youth” is probably these pirated books are full of errors or of very poor quality, so they could misled the student and cause them to get poor scores in exam. Some people suspect these books are banned because they spread democracy or nonsense like that, that just shows how poorly you understood China. Do you seriously believe people would pay to buy books about democracy? Those publishers are not charity, they print pirated books to get money. And what Children books sells best? They’re the books helping them to prepare for exams, thus the term “teaching material”. It’s amusing to see such a innocent operation generated such suspicion, a fine example of the gap between cultures in a globalized world.
Anyway I’m getting off topic, what I came here to ask is, anybody knows what happened to demonoid? Is it gotten shutdown again or just hardware problem?
the usa have secret jails. In other countries. Many guantanamo prisoners have been outsourced there. And tortured…
Yes you can complain. But nobody listens. That’s just a different position in the totalitarian scale.
But who knows for how long ?
The financial crisis may well accelerate the process. Fascism isn’t dead, and rulers prefer that option to fairness.
Think about the differences between a purely fascist state like germany during the second war, and the usa today towards all their ‘colonies’…
lol 182
Another BS-raid in the Corp. world of todays china.
China isn’t communist anymore! It’s u.s.a of copy-lobbies wet dream, swarms of potential lawsuits,remember 1:2 ratio of citizents:lawsuits was and in some extent still is;(and yes u.s.a, that “land” doesn’t deserve CAPS in it’s name).
SNF – Stupidity Never Fails
fuck PRC..
@82
Yes, the CPJ information is correct and it’s a shame of modern Russia. I feel very sorry about that. But it is not correct to say that “every single person that spoke their minds against the government (Russian) died mysteriously”.
I repeat, there are newspapers, sites and tv channels in Russia that seriously criticize the official politics. Though they are often threatened, they still exist.
Yes, NTV was bought and all the serious programs left the channel and so did the journalists so now National Television doesn’t differ much from official channels. But even before that happened the channel wasn’t independent, it was owned by Vladimir Gusinsky, a businessman who competed with others that supported Eltsyn’s politics, so it’s quite natural that the channel criticized this politics as well, although to criticize Eltsyn’s politics it was enough to tell the truth about it.
As for the current political system in Russia, I would define it as an autoritarian-bureaucratic oligarchy with corrupted officials closely associated with business and criminals.
Oh noes! Pirated teaching materials!
They be everywhere! Argh!
They be coming up me legs! Halp!
yawn…., the smart ones here use VPN.
I studied in Chinese University so I understand China better than most Westerners. For all of you who think China is evil… you are misguided. China may well be run by the ‘Communist Party’ but I can tell you now it is more Capitalist than the UK… If you don’t earn enough for a bowl of rice then there is no government hand out. The government owns the majority of the important industries like transport and the media but private business is HUGE in China and the gap between the rich and the poor is equally huge. As for some of the ridiculous comments about people being scared of even talking about their government in a bad light… its not the case at all (that said I think they might think twice about protesting). Chinese people will forever talk of how they have the oldest culture; which may well be true… but they still have a lot of development they are considered a ‘developed country’.
With regards to copyright protection in China… its a joke. I don’t even think most Chinese people think it is illegal to share copyrighted content. I think most of you have missed the funny/interesting side here. China is truely rife with piracy – even major shops sell pirate DVD’s.
Yet the agency is spending its time on the comparatively small issue of educational material. Educational material that will be written in Chinese, by a Chinese company, published by a Chinese printer and sold in a Chinese bookshop. Rather than protecting foreign content which makes up more than 50% of the pirated music, films and TV series.
Give China a chance… One day it will be more successful than the West without a doubt.
@98 Sep 16, 2009 at 13:14 by Wednesday Addams:
I think you are right I should not have used the word “single” and I apologize, still although I like the russian people I don’t see the government as being liberal or being democratic, it is all controlled by the government and that is bad for the russian society and the reason is very basic, there is no human being in the face of the earth capable of imagining all scenarios for every situation therefore there is no way any government in the world can make policies to manage anything and therefore the more state control you have the less flexibility society get to solve their own problems.
@101 Sep 16, 2009 at 15:59 by Ma Long:
China is not a communist state is an authoritarian(regulate everything) dictatorship(commanded by one person or a group that never leaves power because there are no mechanism to do so) and is relentless trying to control every aspect that could undermine their power, if it will be big economically and militarily probably yes if they don’t screw thing s up they could be the next super power the real question is, are the people well?
I see slavery, sweatshops, degrading work conditions and you are trying to insinuate that this is ok or that it should be ignored somehow?
Bush got ousted and his party along with him this would happen in China?
People in the U.S. can change things, people in China cannot one could evenly boldly state that, that power along makes the american people more strong thenthe chinese people who are at the mercy of their government. That is the difference between the west and china, in china there is no hope for change people have to get resigned to a life of servitude and obedience to their master while in the west at least you have the illusion of control you get hope for your future and you can enact change if you are willing enough, you don’t have to by arms to make a point you buy votes and that is great in china the only way to change things right now is to buy guns and go make a revolution what is not that good so what there is to rejoice about the political system in china?
Most people here are fighting for the right for their freedom of expression, freedom for culture, privacy which china has none and you want sympathy for the chinese government? are you crazy or something?
By the way a lot of people here don’t like the bullie tactics form the U.S. government but I doubt they would say anything good about the chinese government either.
@102
Can you really say you have a choice, the US and UK two party systems… and in the UK there is no difference between the policies of either. The two parties sit in parliament spending most of their time arguing against their opposition rather than for the benefit of the country. I hear your issue regarding no change of power… I am not in defence of that system, nor am I about to say that the UK’s system is any better. At least the Chinese government is efficient about what it does, from what I have heard the majority of the US stimulus package has not even been spent yet… how on earth is it going to stimulate anything if most of it sits in a bank account for a year?
Look all I am saying is, China is not evil, the people are not oppressed (at least to the level that most people seem to believe)… BUT they have a long way to come. That said the US has a way to come too… the death penalty how draconian is that.
http://www.Adult-Facebook.com
I think China is doing a good thing by disabling pornographic content.
@26, you mother fucking blinded uneducated tool, China is set up so no other party can get power. Resistance is all crushed and imprisoned followed by their death, and not just violent resistance
visit the forums at http://forums.theghostbay.org/
and long live thepiratebay
They probably use leaded ink for printing and chlorine whitened paper.
@104 Sep 16, 2009 at 20:59 by Ma Long:
The west today have more choices then China, seriously can a chinese group make a party called “Pirate Party” and run for seats on the government in China? Can the Chinese people speak out about the government without fear?
No, they can’t this make the chinese people evil? of course not, but it makes the chinese government a dictatorship and authoritarian.
The west have problems? of course they do, that is why we come here to bitch about how governments everywhere are trying to take our rights and freedoms away and when we are lucky once in a while someone let out a good idea that we the normal joe’s and mary’s can use to fight back and say no.
You want to hear that I don’t think that chinese people are evil? I can do that, the chinese people are great I had chinese friends and they are all cool, now you want me to say that the chinese government is not that bad? sorry that I cannot. It is my opinion based on my friends, experiences and the media that the chinese government is made up of a bunch of power hungry SOBs that don’t care about their own people.
China sux :D
@102
You’ve got the point :)
The Russian government has already proved that it’s unable to solve problems it is obliged to solve, and keeps screwing up more and more, so I think it’s only a matter of time for democracy to win.
@112 Sep 17, 2009 at 03:09 by Wednesday Addams:
I’m glad we could find common ground.
China doesn’t represent any form of leftism.
OK so they shouldn’t have confiscated educational material.
But people making comments about China seem to be mainly BRAINWASHED AMERICANS.
Most of the Chinese think that their government is pretty good and don’t want a democracy. All they care about is a better lifestyle — which is what their government is trying to achieve.
So they throw in a little bit of ideology, big deal! Turn on Fox News and you’ll see ideology until it makes you sick.
That is true that most of kids in school dont like to read and when you tell them to do their homework they dont want to. People dont like to be told what to do. So it looks like china is the leading country in the world for a reason. that is fact, sure everyone has opinon about what country is evil and not, which is just stupid. people are people anywhere you go. there is know different you are dumbed down and not able to think for yourself and see whole picture if u can not see that PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE and it is fucked and same everyone. who cares really. They are basically using reverse psychology. If you tell someone they are not allowed to do something than of course they want to do it and will find a way. especially if it will benefit them. and it is not too difficult to find a way to bypass all china’s bullshit internet filters.
Counterfeit Teaching Materials Threaten Health of China’s Youth
^ fixed for greater good
Why the hell are all these Americans getting angry over a bad translation…?
Evil government? Isn’t that redundant?
Hey, I’ll bet we’ll be hearing wealthy Americans making a slight variation on the same argument for why we should shell out tens of thousands for college lectures and course materials instead of getting them for free like they do in most other major world countries.
As for the China bashers/defenders: The quality of life and political freedom in China varies enormously based on, you guessed it, class and regional income. Some communities have it great, while others can’t even get basic health-care and clean drinking water. Just like America! Some dissidents are lightly monitored or ignored, others get raided and tormented regularly. Just like America!
However, their nationalistic pretensions are twice as irritating and pompous as ours, which is quite a feat, so you can dock them for being louder and more annoying.
@115 Sep 17, 2009 at 15:20 by Cordelia:
Next you be saying is ok to censor everything, it is ok to have slaves, it is ok to explore people to their deaths and paid in food enough to not die and say the government is fantastic LoL
@119 Sep 17, 2009 at 21:21 by Phenlandia:
Yes that is true, there are islands of prosperity where people mostly are ok with what happens and there is that little ocean of poverty and if it is equal to America does it make it right to be worked to death, be put in jail for complaining and trying to exercise your rights, have your organs harvested in prison, have corrupt officials what does america has to do with any of that horrible crap?
Will you dumbasses let people die in front of you because america do it too?
@115 Sep 17, 2009 at 15:20 by Cordelia:
Human traffic is notorious in Europe so it is ok if it happens in China?
And everybody that speaks against it are BRAINWASHED EUROPEANS?
That is the most lame excuse not to talk about something.
Yes. I’m sure withholding education will really help the children….
Well, my point was that the problems are the same EVERYWHERE right now. Corruption, human trafficking, heinous abuses of the prison systems, zero environmental protection, torture, genocide, crackdowns on civil liberties and free discourse, and systematized deprivation of the lower classes. This is going on everywhere, all over the world. And the “more democratic” nations are enabling the “worse” ones. Scapegoating this country or that one is just picking which atrocities are more or less atrocious than the others. Pointless.
stupid comunists…
stupid capitalists…
all of you are the same c***p…
Good ole China, doing what they do best: FAILING.
@124 Sep 18, 2009 at 05:29 by Phenlandia:
It is never pointless to scapegoat one in this particular case. governments everywhere are screwing their own people so if the article is about china is time to talk about the bad things that government does.
One step at a time, one country at a time scapegoat all of them.
American teaching material can be very expensive. TTC videos sell for hundreds of dollars per DVD.
Thank God for BitTorrent!
…But in Communist China, Education Pirates You!
@4, 15, 20, 22, 26, 68, 75, 77 (Reasoned Mind):
Seriously, stop using my handle to post defamatory comments about me. Everybody knows that it’s not actually me posting those messages, and it makes the arguments on your side that actually have some rationality to them seem weak because people like the posters I’m replying to are on your side.
(Then again, I should also stop using this handle as well. XD – Mr. Briggs)
Despite the “flashiness” of cities like Shanghai, one must remember there are over 850,000,000 peasants in the Chinese countryside who have been promised more money and better conditions by the Chinese Government. This condition was not like Japan, even 30 years ago. Also, the 850,000,000 peasants are prepared to create considerable social unrest to get what they have been promised and the Government members will not be wanting to give up their current position, income and power because they know if they fail to deliver, their days are numbered. This explains why communists are shitting bricks when chinese peasants are reading playboy and hustler and wanna play with themselves….
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