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Police Declare War on BitTorrent Sites, Operators and Users

Following the domain seizure of Russia’s biggest torrent site, Torrents.ru, Moscow’s Ministry of Internal Affairs has announced it will not only start shutting down BitTorrent sites and pursuing their operators, but also hold users responsible. One proposal suggests that file-sharers should be treated the same as criminal counterfeiters.

Last month RU-Center, Russia’s largest domain name registrar and web-hosting provider, was forced to shut down the domain of Torrents.ru, the country’s biggest torrent site with around 4 million users.

The grounds for the seizure was a breach of Article 146 of the Criminal Code – “Illegal use of objects of copyright or related rights, as well as acquisition, storage, transportation of counterfeit copies of works or phonograms for sale, committed on a large scale”.

Torrents.ru was quickly restored with a new domain, RUtracker, but this fight back has only spurred the authorities on to take even more aggressive action.

“The police will take action to stop the operation of file-sharing sites like torrents.ru and will fight with their creators,” said Economic Security deputy chief Lt. Gen. Victor Vasilyev from Moscow’s Ministry of Internal Affairs. “Our task is to stop those sites’ owners activities,” he told a press conference.

The existence of file-sharing networks is causing considerable damage to copyright holders, said Vasilyev, although he admitted that thus far the police campaign against them has returned limited success.

Vasilyev noted that many sites (including RUTracker) are registered outside the .RU domain which makes them more difficult to deal with. “But even if they are registered in the Russian Federation it is often really hard to establish the identity of the owner and make them liable,” he added.

Dreamtorrent Corp spokesperson (the creator of torrents.ru) Alexander Volkov believes that the police fight should work against the exchange of pirate material, not BitTorrent trackers. Volkov said this would avoid the risk of limiting users’ ability to share information which could constitute an encroachment on civil rights.

“If we are talking about limiting pirated materials, then authorities already do what they can,” Volkov added.

Nevertheless, it seems the police are already looking at this problem from two directions. Citing developments in Europe, the authorities believe that going after sites and holding users of those sites responsible for their actions is the way forward.

Nikolay Nazimok, head of Moscow police’s Economic Crime Department, says that since users of file-sharing networks like BitTorrent not only download but upload too, they effectively become part of a distribution network for counterfeit goods.

“The problem of file-sharing networks is becoming very acute,” Nazimok told a press conference yesterday. “They are a dangerous web that form a network of networks. By downloading movies from the resource, you become distributors of these products to other users,” he added.

Nazimok has proposed that illegal file-sharers should be treated in the same way as criminal counterfeiters.

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  • Anonymous

    Bastards.

  • Anonymous2

    What do you expect from Russia…it’s not a country but criminal gang being run by a midget….wake up Russians you have been under the heel of greedy, evil scroats since time immemorial!!!

  • r00t@127.0.0.1

    In Sovjet Russia, you do not download warez, warez download you!

  • Anonymouse

    @2:
    Obvious troll is obvious.

  • Anonymous

    @2

    They won’t because of their mentality. Not gonna happen.

  • Anonymous

    So lets say I draw a copy of an expensive picture and hang it at my home. I publish a picture on my blog then one of my visitors asks me how I did it and makes a copy that he sells on ebay claiming it is the original. As a result I’m arrested by the police for helping him making the copy …

    P.S. Nice logic there Mr. Policemen …

  • gigi

    Sending people to siberian gulag for filesharing. Next we will have reeducation camps for filesharers. Or maybe “exterminate” a few…

  • *D

    It makes perfect sense. Since all the paedophiles and trafficking and corruption of the officials in Russia has been taken care of, now it’s time to battle the “evil” P2P
    LMAO

  • AnarchyNow

    The only true democracy is anarchy, russians have never ever known a democracy, Putin totalitarian dictatorship is no different from form pseudo-communist regim…

    I don’t see what the russian goverment expects to achieve with this, since it’s definitively not in the interest of any russian to bully the people to become cash cow for the greedy american worse than nazi media excuse of an industry.

  • AnarchyNow

    The only true democracy is anarchy, russians have never ever known a democracy, Putin totalitarian dictatorship is no different from pseudo-communist regime…

    I don’t see what the russian government expects to achieve with this, since it’s definitively not in the interest of any russian to bully the people to become cash cow for the greedy american worse than nazi media excuse of an industry.
    Sounds rather like some bullshit they laugh about when talking to stupid american self-righteous bastards

  • Don Reba

    Man, those Russians are so lucky. Apparently, they already caught all the real criminals.

  • ^ ^

    Hello,
    it seems that all around the world anti-piracy actions are gaining momentum. All the actions vs. torrent sited, p2p software, all the policies concerning ISP and etc. I have noticed that from 2009 there was done a lot of effort fighting piracy, such as blocking sites, confinement. I conclude that worst is just ahead and that all “fighters for free information” should unite.

  • Huggybaby

    Wow, I’m part of a dangerous web. Fear my awesome awesomeness!

  • Zush

    Russians, to the black market NOW!

  • ppb

    Just explain one thing to me. If i use bit torrent to download a file, at what point in the process can this be termed illegal as i am just downloading pieces of a file from various sources. So at no stage do i download a whole file, just pieces that make up a whole.

  • Peter

    “Nikolay Nazimok, head of Moscow police’s Economic Crime Department..”
    Nazimok ?? What a fitting name for the head of the Moscow Police- Mafias Economic Crime Department ..
    (That’s the department who assists the oligarchs in their plundering
    of Russia .)

  • Brandon

    Russian Police… Ha ha… Take my wife and a bottle of Vodka, It’s all good? ya? OK…

  • Anonymous

    wow now i feel like a badass for using p2p :P

    but i feel safe behind my VPN =D

  • Anonymous

    In Soviet Russia, fileshareres put cops in jail.

  • Bpy6

    Ha, that’s another useless measure to scare bittorent users. Cops in Russia will NEVER go after something deemed illegal if it doesn’t put hell lotta money into their pockets. And RAO (local RIAA) isn’t lobbying their anti-piracy stuff much, as they tend to earn from frauding people themselves.

    I guess there’re about 2-3 people in Russia who decided not to share anymore.
    That’s a shame…

  • Nailin Pailin

    Could this have anything to do with WTO & ACTA…hmm..

  • DeltaPan

    Swine flu.

  • TacoHell

    next step, fetinyl gas for the admins…

  • Cwrw

    Uncle Joe is back

  • Whatever

    I guess the real counterfeiting mafia from the black market are complaining that their business is going bad because everyone is getting it for free (instead of paying criminals).

    The real victim of getting it for free will always first be those who sell illegal copies because thats where people who don’t plan on buying the genuine item, because its too expensive for example, will go (that’s why counterfeiting exist in the 1st place).

    Now Russia isn’t a country that cares much about law anyway (just see what happens to journalists) so its a very likely possibility that this might be the case (with some money into some pockets).

    Come to think of it: even with real counterfeited items “one counterfeit buy” doesnt equal “one lost sale”.

  • Borderliner

    @ 15 / ppb

    It doesn’t have to be a whole while until copyright applies, as far as I know pretty much every law that defines copyright also includes “whole or a part” statement. Now, how big this part has to be in the digital world (obviosly 1 byte can’t represent a whole song or a movie) is a completelly different matter, but the basic fact stands – you don’t have to download the complete product for it to qualify “stolen”.

    The main problem by BT ain’t the downloading, it’s the uploading. In most half way civilized countries there are exceptions which allow a private citizen to consume a non-physical product without the author allowing it (fair use), but those never apply to distribution. Which uploading is. And as your BT client does so automatically (which is the main point of BT, that’s why it’s so effective) then you will break the law even without intending it. You might disable uploading, but that hinders BT’s functioning. Upload and be the badguy (for the authorities), don’t upload and be the badguy (for the BT swarm)…

  • Anonymous

    what a load of crap why the sudden interest now seems some one either been bought or believed the lies of more money through the sale imaginary property.

    fyi not gonna happen.

  • Dizzy

    Haha, Russia just want to surpress the people a bit further… Police and government in Russia are corrupt as hell, i’m guessing that does the country far more damage then some people downloading…

  • me

    This only serves as yet another reminder that central trackers and index sites are vulnerable to legal attacks by the Copyright Taliban… everywhere on this rotten planet.

    Time to move on to totally decentralized anonymous P2P systems that don’t have single points of failure like a website. It’s the only (technical) solution that won’t be easy to defeat.

  • info.on.the.inside

    whats up with the titles recently “Police Declare War on BitTorrent Sites, Operators and Users” you meant to say “Russian Police Declare War on BitTorrent Sites, Operators and Users” no ?

  • Whatever

    Totally offtopic:
    ACTA Torrent… the fastest torrent download speed in KB/s (if it wasn’t so small it would gone faster).

  • Anonymous

    The grounds for the seizure was a breach of Article 146 of the Criminal Code – “Illegal use of objects of copyright or related rights, as well as acquisition, storage, transportation of counterfeit copies of works or phonograms FOR SALE, committed on a large scale”.

    BULLSHIT
    WE DO NOT SALE!

    those idiots don’t have anything to force then with!

  • Whatever2

    The grounds for the seizure was a breach of Article 146 of the Criminal Code – “Illegal use of objects of copyright or related rights, as well as acquisition, storage, transportation of counterfeit copies of works or phonograms FOR SALE, committed on a large scale”.

    It says, for sale, they don’t sale them? LOL = FAIL

  • Oscar

    “In Sovjet Russia, you do not download warez, warez download you!” haha !

  • AntiHero

    This is just forcing more and more users towards using VPNs. Or just stealing someone ELSE’s wifi.

  • ettegg

    #8, #11 and maybe others>

    It’s not like the .whole. policeforce are after pirates, nor pedophiles.

    Yes, both are arguments against you. stupid

  • Me?

    you don’t have to download the complete product for it to qualify “stolen”.

    Which in itself is stupied but within the lines of the laws.

  • Lou Rawlson

    Sounds to me like someone over there has a wee bit too much spare time on their hands. Perhaps a shortage of real crime to deal with?

    anonymous-proxy.us.tc

  • Freeleech

    I’m from Russia and I’m not afraid of them. They’ve been trying to scare us for like… hmm… forever now and, quite frankly, it’s now boring to read and even more boring to discuss.

    Rutracker.ru (ex torrents.ru) alone has over 4.5m of registered accounts and it’s not the only Russian tracker.

    We’ve won this war long ago and denial won’t do the authorities any good.

  • Ninja

    “The existence of file-sharing networks is causing considerable damage to copyright holders, said Vasilyev….” – Proof please. Official unbiased decently conducted study, please. Money must be running in the backstage to sparkle this sudden interest in copyright…

    Anyway, in Soviet Russia democracy runs the people ;D

    It is interesting that you may use a determined software without paying if it won’t generate any profit but you are forbidden to get it anywhere. So why does the first law even exist? In any case, people will buy for sane prices. At least I do and I know quite a few who would ;D

    Good luck Russian fellows, you’ll need it…

  • pffft

    They should spend their stamina on weeding out in their corrupt and deeply racist regime instead of this bullshit.

  • Anonymous
  • Trelew

    Guess someone in the Russian government must of gotten paid off really big to pull out the big guns. Since the government is what it is, I guess the people are use to the heavy handed treatment they get from it.

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  • Grrrreeedy Music Co.s

    Russia’s brave stance

    Coming to a country near you

    SOON

  • redbrain

    This really annoys me i would love to have a dicussion with someone of them. I mean do they really think that stopping torrent sites and trackers will help them gain more money? The mere fact people are downloading their movies and tv shows and talking about it with friends spurs on to friends and family to buy the dvds and see the movies. Stopping it will not only harm free speach but their pockets. And sure more and more big budget movies are made every year they are in no money problems! This is pure greed at its worst, spured on by people who do not understand society and community.

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  • Anonymous

    ouch.

  • Anonymous

    The Russian police is a relic of the stalinism area and is corrupted to the core.

    They are just a pack of dangerous parasites not useful to the society.

  • nizzerguy

    I ain’t scurrr’d.

  • *D

    #36: what arguments??
    “it’s not like… ”
    then what is it like?

    Or are you saying that having the police chase down and treat P2P like criminals is OK? Instead of doing what the people pay them for?
    That is to catch some real criminals

    please elaborate or go eat some eggs

  • JoJo

    Since when did Russia start caring about things like “rights” and privacy?

    They sure became a big wuss over the last 25 years.

  • 133t

    just give u the real pic in a fast way. we the file shares don’t ‘huRt’ the the MAFIAA but also the the real mafia :P street piracy is a billion dollar industry contrlled by guy with guns and shit :P who every much control russia now. russia is a prime source of pirated material heading out side of that country plus naturally the russian streets, now if we file share as we do , you are not going to pay for that pirated dvd or cd which is freely aviable on street so that hurts the mafia dons who control the strings of russian govt , so the heat is coming from there .

    Russians pardon my french give a flying F to copy rights :P

  • Unauthorized Content Consumer

    I’m afraid I have to agree with #2. Russia is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. The government is there to serve its self and not the people. If you have enough money you can buy as much politicians and laws as you want. You can do nothing to stop them. One cop tried to expose them, but he was tracked down, caught and has “dissappeared”.

    The RIAA/MPAA and the Russian government get along famously because they are the mafia, the are corrupt and they speak the same language.

    Counterfiet my ass. Copying money and using it to buy things is far different from copying zeros and ones for personal and private use. Of course they van pretty much do whatever they want in Russia.

    Look at how the Russian mafia are the biggest computer spammers and malware software writers in the world and they’ve been getting away with it for many years. They rip off millions of people to the tune of mega millions per year USD! Why doesn’t the Russian government stop them? Who do you think is bribing them to make sure they never get caught? It’s alot more profitable than the olden days when they profited from drugs and prostitution.

    Blah. Who cares. You can never fight corrupt governments or corporations. It’s a complete waste of time.

  • Jorge

    Eh not big news. Russia is a backwards fucking country. Nobody there gives a fucking care about the rest of the world so why should we? If your in Russia and you don’t want to get thrown in the Gulag for downloading Miley Cyrus (Which all russians love) then maybe you should get the fuck out of that shithole called Eastern Europe and find a country that has a democratic government. No, russia does not have one. No you cannot argue with me. Yes, putin is in control of everything.

  • Thomas

    No one has made the proper payoff to people in Russian government yet. That’s all this is about – a shakedown.

  • 54

    Well if we wern’t charged a rediculous amount of money to go see these films etc then maybe we wouldn’t have to do this!

  • TerribleTony

    Phonograms, lol, see how outdated Russias laws are? When was this law created? 1929?

  • Abs

    @54:

    You “have” to do this? Somebody is holding a gun to your head and making you “do this”? Wow, your life is so tragic; certainly go right ahead and take what you need.

    You should do that everywhere. Just take that BMW because it’s so expensive. If it wasn’t expensive, you wouldn’t have had to steal it. Well, it can’t really be theft, it doesn’t hurt anybody, after all BMW could just make another one. See no harm.

    The RIAA, and in this case the Russian authorities, are being called greedy. But you know whats also greedy? People who steal because they feel entitled to get something for nothing. That’s both greedy and cheap.

    We’re doomed as a society.

  • Yo

    #47 – you have no clue what the hell you’re talking about.
    Think before you post!

  • lverona

    Well, I can see that people who post here generally know little about Russia. Totalitarism, 1929 laws and all that stuff clearly shows that.

    As a Russian who knows current copyright laws from his everyday job, I can say that Russia is starting the same processes as in other countries where copyright organizations have declared war against the people. Nothing more, nothing less.

  • acidik

    @12
    so right man together we have probably more than 10,000,000
    you telling me that ,that many people united cant do some real damage to the MAFIAA and associates?

  • Terminator

    Same thing is happening all around the world. If ACTA goes live, we will all become criminals. Wake up and smell the coffee. Fight for the right to share.

    http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5425059/ACTA_Agreement_leaked_

  • Chris

    Its about damn time.
    “Fight for the right to share”???
    F’n idiot.

  • L

    @42

    Why, so we can deal with Rapidshare’s BS as well?

    http://torrentfreak.com/rapidshare-terminates-accounts-of-illegal-downloaders-100323/

  • Surys

    Meh, it’s cool…

    Distributed indexing is next…

    …good luck shutting that down!! :D

  • me

    I agree with #58 Iverona and #60 Terminator. Russia has just fallen in-line with the rest of the copyrighted world. That’s sad, but it wasn’t entirely unexpected either (after they pulled the plug on AllOfMp3.com — everything else was just a logical continuation of the same).

    Again: time to move to less vulnerable filesharing technologies (anonymous P2P with built-in search and indexing).

  • ROLF

    networks of networks of networks of networks of networks of networks of networks of networks of networks of networks of networks of networks of networks of networks of networks of networks of networks of networks of networks of networks of networks of networks of networks of networks of networks of networks of networks of networks of networks :)

  • Gonzobot

    Doesn’t the entire concept of DVD Regions just GUARANTEE that Russia will always be a good source of R5 releases? I mean, if they would release a movie at the same time as the rest of the world, they would have no more or less piracy than any other country.

  • Dia

    Who needs Civil rights when you got Putin

  • pr1cks

    what a load of sad,uninformed and xenophobic comments on here.

    Before you all slag off russia, take a look at your own back yards, USA and UK are far stricter than RU ffs

  • rhx

    ROFL @ #3 i said the same thing in my head!

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  • Gargamel

    68-QFT

  • Anonymous

    I’d love to see them try to prove my bit-torrent use is illegal. Let’s see what I’m seeding:
    8bitpeoples 2009 collection.
    ubuntu 9.10 amd64 DVD.
    NIN, the slip & ghosts.
    Radiohead, in rainbows.
    Chemistry handbook.
    Blender

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  • Derc

    @68-pr1cks, well said!

    This is a scare tactic for our russian friends. Honestly its time for a new venue a,ong filesharing. Torrent has nearly finished its last mile. We need new tech to handle it for us to continue. I think it was mentioned above… distributed Hashes? Decentralized tracking? Its time for a new frontier, Bittorrent has run her course and I’m proud to have been there. I still remember what a joy WinMX was and Napster. File sharing will never end as long as there is an Internet.

  • ¿why?

    why must they be such assholes?

    just leave us alone!

  • It’s Not me, It’s YOU

    And how is uploading “In Rainbows” legal. You don’t own it, Radiohead do. They did a limited “pay your own price” – that doesn’t give YOU the right to give it away. It is now only available legally for a fee

  • Dave

    they need to use firing squads again

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  • Maxzzz

    Who are this people? Never heard about them before. When I read about megacheifs and head ministers that appeared so SUDDENLY it makes me think that something is wrong.
    BTW rutracker.org is working and has no any announces confirming buff mentioned.

  • A.

    @2: uh, we already knew that DUH!

  • mhearne

    Nearly every Linux distributor on the web has a bittorrent to download their files. Are they coming after me? What about all the video and audio that is in the public domain?

    Most of us are honest, but it only takes one screw-up to blow it for thousands of people!

  • E

    @AnarchyNow

    Russians have known anarchy. In the early 1990s. That’s why they’ve gone back in the direction of totalitarianism – because anarchy was AWFUL.

    As one microscopic example, here’s something that happened to the biggest Russian cartoon studio, Soyuzmultfilm (quoted from Wikipedia):

    “One early misfortune happened when the Russian courts transferred the studio’s puppet division building (in a legal decision involving many other buildings) to the Russian Orthodox Church. Before the animators could react to this turn of events, an Orthodox Cossack squadron, accompanied by religious locals, broke into the building with swords unsheathed for the purpose of exorcism and began throwing out the “satanic puppets animated with the blood of Christian babies”. No studio employees were allowed to come in and salvage any item, despite the presence of much expensive equipment and a whole library of puppets.”

  • Free SCV

    This should positively change the Russian laws as more and more are being put into the enemy camps of freedom online.

    The people will realize the govt doesn’t have THEIR interest at heart.

    Even under mistaken impression that it’s theft (it’s not), the society pretty much says it’s alright to download your media. Missed a tv show? Watch the torrent the next day /w commercials taken out. How nice is THAT???

    Abusive laws that society puts up with till they reform their govt FOR the people.

    Open Source Govt 4ever!

  • Le Fake

    Even Russia’s president, Dimitry Medvedev, has pledged his OWN party to try and win the elections by democratic means next time.

    What’s right and wrong in Russia depends only from the mood of its few leaders.

  • x

    Oh, well. Getting something for free in Russia is the national idea… So i think it is clear that stopping filesharing is impossible.
    Maybe 2 or 3 russians will be caught and arrested for 15 days and it’s all, cause now we have law that guarantee russians not to go to a prison for economic crimes.

  • thedudeabides

    >legal attacks by the Copyright Taliban

    By that, you mean people who actually create stuff, as opposed to people like you, who only take it and assume you have all sorts of rights to it.

  • thedudeabides

    >Sounds to me like someone over there has a wee bit too much spare time on their hands. Perhaps a shortage of real crime to deal with?

    When every label I know is on the brink of going under, and every artists I know is wondering how the f*** they are supposed to make a living, well, ripping sure feels like real crime to me.

  • It’s Not me, It’s YOU

    @84&85
    Good points

  • Ralph

    I will use emule more. Thanks for reminding meI will use emule more. Thanks for reminding me

  • obvious

    This is a Crazy Ivan move if there ever was one…

  • caboing

    Just downloaded Pinochio’s Disney that my father took me to watch when I was a kid. What a master mind criminal I am!

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  • me

    #84: “By that, you mean people who actually create stuff,”

    No, I mean the distribution cartels who are living off the work of creatives and sponsoring ever more draconian copyright laws.

    C’mon: a harmless case of copyright infringement for a couple of files, without commercial interest, and the fines are going in the millions of dollars for an individual who’ll never be able to pay them in his or her whole life? THAT’S TALIBAN-STYLE maximalist laws.

    Copyright has gone way too far. It needs to be seriously curtailed back to saner proportions (and terms).

  • Anonymous

    First Russia, then Italy, then Germany and now Russia again. This is a big international operation against filesharers. Downalad and share – send a greeting card to MAFIAA

  • Kapcha

    First Russia, then Italy, then Germany, and now Russia again. International copyright MAFIAA is on the offensive. Download and share so much as you can, it will be our response to this bastards.

  • Knarf

    Nice abuse of power, those assholes are not even able to prove that torrent sites have illegal content…

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