TorrentFreak

The place where breaking news, BitTorrent and copyright collide

Privacy Ruling Won’t Save Large Scale File-Sharers

This week a ruling from Switzerland’s Federal Court said that an anti-piracy company broke privacy laws when they monitored file-sharers and then used the collected data to extract payments from alleged infringers. While some may think this gives a green light to file-sharers, those sharing large amounts of media should think again – the police might just start showing an interest.

This week an important ruling was handed down by the Swiss Federal Court. The majority of a panel of five judges decided that anti-piracy company Logistep breached Switzerland’s strict privacy laws when it monitored and gathered information on file-sharers.

The ruling, which is final and cannot be appealed, made clear that it is illegal to collect IP addresses in Switzerland with the aim of later filing a lawsuit. While Logistep said that this would make the country a safe-haven for pirates, things may not be quite as safe as some people imagine.

While obtaining evidence for civil lawsuits will be hugely problematic for private companies, the state can still take action against file-sharers. The police in Europe are only usually interested in file-sharers if they are deemed to be pirating media on a commercial scale or are committing other criminal offenses, and Switzerland is no different.

Just this week, Swiss police closed in on a woman who made available thousands of music tracks on the Internet. The 21 year-old is suspected of sharing more than 3,100 music tracks without the permission of copyright holders.

According to the police, the woman said that she had no commercial intentions and only downloaded the songs for her own personal use. However, the woman did not know that as well as just downloading music, by default her (unnamed) file-sharing software was also making the tracks available for upload.

As we’ve seen in recent cases in Sweden, sharing a few thousand tracks is certainly enough to get the authorities to take action – if, of course, they are pushed in the right direction by the likes of the IFPI in the first place.

Yet again, and in common with similar Swedish cases, this woman will have been using a ‘shared folder’ type application, possibly Direct Connect but more likely something like LimeWire or Bearshare. As we’ve pointed out here a dozen times on TorrentFreak, people using this type of software to share large quantities of music are a sitting duck for file-sharing investigators.

In the music sector piracy investigators aren’t interested in petty file-sharers, they want to be able to prove to the police that their target is big-time and worth pursuing with state resources. By sharing their entire music collections in these type of programs – often many thousands of tracks at a time – people are playing with fire.

People are drawn to ‘shared-folder’ P2P programs like LimeWire because they are easy to operate, but as illustrated above, that ease of use can come at a price. On the other hand (and as pointed out earlier by frustrated Swedish authorities), proving large scale infringement against a regular BitTorrent user is a much more complicated task, so much so that there have been no arrests to date. BitTorrent may have a steeper learning curve, but many will consider it to be worth it.

As anti-piracy groups digest what has happened in Switzerland this week, the focus may well shift away from private cases but anti-piracy actions won’t go away. Groups such as IFPI will not give in, but instead change the way they operate. Rather than chase file-sharers through the courts themselves, they will probably identify large scale infringers and get the police to do their work for them.

Related Posts

Previous Post | Next Post

  • Aman

    Doesn’t effects me either

  • Booger Bender

    TF should consider on reporting which p2p applications to avoid and teach noobs how to join the rest. Fix the gap where people fall into by not learning the right way of doing things. Safer and saner.

  • Aman

    @ Booger Bender
    Agreed. She Even doesn’t not know that her system/soft. is uploading back.

  • .neo.stylesnv|DX

    this all happened before the high court rendered its judgement. I think this case will get thrown out…

  • Pingback: Privacy Ruling Won’t Save Large Scale File-Sharers | Systema

  • Billclinton

    Too many fools download without taking the time to learn anything about how it works , 1 stupid friend paid for predator but didn’t know u have to connect to the VPN each time he put his pc on !

  • StevO

    This stuff must be tiring for the courts. Its about songs and movies. And hardly the average citizen is a criminal. Its just the big money corp TRYING to make them criminals.
    For gods sake its digital bytes. Not gold or diamonds. Like I have said before, if you EVER get caught up in this and are facing charges, then SELL your ass off. Burn copy sell burn copy sell . If you are going to be treated like a criminal then atleast you should go down being GUILTY of the activity. Atleast that way you might be able to afford to defend yourself. Make sense?

  • Deville

    I’d say I didn’t know I’m uploading too if I ever get chased, and then the media will state that. It doesn’t mean this woman actually didn’t know that. Because in Switzerland only uploading is illegal, downloading isn’t.

    But what if I’m sharing a large torrent with 600 Tracks or so..?

  • Happy customer

    How the fcuk can torrentfreak support , by linking to http://www.torrenthound.com

    The site is full of fakes.

    REALLY BAD….

    one page ..search for inception…

    Inception (2010 Engl) XviD-PM
    Movies / Thriller Today
    10 hrs old 736 Mb 7639? 329? 67%
    Inception DvDrip (2010) xViD-JiJi
    Movies / Action Today
    10 hrs old 678 Mb 5551? 1522? 67%
    Inception (2010) CAM XViD-IMAGiNE
    Video > Movies Today
    11.2 hrs old 1368 Mb 1? 114? 46%
    Inception.[2010].English.HQ.avi
    Video > Movies Today
    13.6 hrs old 709 Mb 6826? 670? 70%
    Inception 2010 DvDRiP XViD H264 ACC – HDLiTE
    Video > Movies Today
    15.5 hrs old 852 Mb 1? 96? 46%
    Inception (2010) DvDRiP XViD avi – SPEEDY
    Movies / Sci-Fi Today
    16.6 hrs old 772 Mb 1? 26? 43%
    Inception 2010 XviD DVDRip ENGL
    Video > Movies Today
    17.2 hrs old 776 Mb 6903? 964? 70%
    Inception 2010 DivX
    Movies / Drama Today
    18 hrs old 753 Mb 17? 13? 46%
    Inception 2010 Unrated Dvdrip XviD AC3-FLAWL3SS
    Video > Movies Today
    18 hrs old 718 Mb 2? 357? 46%
    Inception, HQ.[2010].English.avi
    Movies / Action Yesterday
    1 days old 709 Mb 8223? 417? 67%
    Inception (2010) DvDRiP XViD Eng avi – MAXSPEED
    Movies / Sci-Fi Yesterday
    1.1 days old 772 Mb 7? 14? 39%
    Inception 2010 TS [HQ] XViD – MAX
    Video > Movies Yesterday
    1.1 days old 734 Mb 5? 8? 47%
    Inception XVID-HQ (Engl) 2010
    Movies / Thriller Yesterday
    1.3 days old 760 Mb 7983? 599? 67%
    Inception (2010) DvDrip XviD ENG-Dix
    Movies / Action Yesterday
    1.3 days old 678 Mb 660? 1228? 67%
    Inception (2010) (Top movie) Eng
    Video > Movies Yesterday
    1.7 days old 1393 Mb 6769? 478? 70%
    Inception 2010 DivX
    Movies / Drama Yesterday
    1.7 days old 753 Mb 16? 21? 47%
    Inception (2010) DVDRip XviD-PRE-RELEASE
    Video > Movies Thursday
    2 days old 737 Mb 18? 43? 22%
    Inception. English. 2010. DivX-PRO.avi
    Movies / Action Thursday
    2 days old 707 Mb 59? 38? 37%
    Inception (2010) DvDRiP XViD Eng avi – MAXSPEED
    Movies / Sci-Fi Thursday
    2.1 days old 772 Mb 1? 8? 39%
    Inception DvDrip [2010] ENG XviD-H77
    Movies / Action Thursday
    2.2 days old 678 Mb 7046? 1779? 67%
    Inception 2010 Multisub Dvdrip Xvid – FXG
    Video > Movies Thursday
    2.3 days old 717 Mb 4? 3? 41%
    Inception. 2010.English.HQ.avi
    Video > Movies Thursday
    2.3 days old 708 Mb 18? 10? 65%
    Inception (2010) (Top movie) Eng
    Video > Movies Thursday
    2.4 days old 712 Mb 7109? 224? 65%
    Inception 2010 CamRip {MnM-RG H264} PLAY.avi
    Video > Movies Thursday
    2.4 days old 749 Mb 10? 7? 52%
    Inception DivX HQ Engl (2010)
    Video > Movies Thursday
    2.4 days old 743 Mb 7303? 224? 65%
    Inception 2010 CamRip XviD-BaZZe.avi
    Video > Movies Thursday
    2.5 days old 749 Mb 8? 4? 45%
    Inception.(2010).DVDRip XviD- Promo.EL Subs.Eng-Release(Divx)
    Video > Movies Thursday
    2.5 days old 712 Mb 3? 3? 18%
    Inception 2010 XviD DVDRip ENGL
    Video > Movies Thursday
    2.5 days old 738 Mb 6936? 258? 40%
    Inception 2010 DivX
    Movies / Drama Thursday
    2.7 days old 753 Mb 11? 12? 22%
    Inception (2010) DvDRiP XViD avi – SPEEDY
    Movies / Sci-Fi Wednesday
    2.8 days old 772 Mb 5? 3? 13%
    Inception 2010 UNRATED DvDSCR XViD H264 AC3 – LKRG
    Video > Movies Wednesday
    3 days old 811 Mb 1? 10? 16%
    Inception 2010 Dvdrip 5.1 (Complete_multi subs) ACC – MAX
    Video > Movies Wednesday
    3.1 days old 718 Mb 1? 1? 16%
    Inception. Engl.2010.xVid HQ.avi
    Video > Movies Wednesday
    3.1 days old 709 Mb 8316? 262? 65%
    Inception 2010 DVDRip [ENG] XviD-480
    Movies / Action Wednesday
    3.2 days old 678 Mb 7652? 259? 67%
    Inception 2010
    Movies / Drama Wednesday
    3.2 days old 761 Mb 14? 3? 18%
    Inception – TS XviD AC3 FEEL-FREE
    Movies / Action Wednesday
    3.3 days old 722 Mb 5? 4? 14%
    Inception 2010 Dvdrip 5.1 (Complete_multi subs) ACC – MAX
    Movies / Action Wednesday
    3.3 days old 717 Mb 3? 3? 15%
    Inception (2010) DivX ENG
    Movies / Action Wednesday
    3.3 days old 729 Mb 8045? 268? 62%
    Inception.(2010) Engl DV.avi
    Movies / Action Wednesday
    3.5 days old 709 Mb 14? 9? 62%
    has comments
    Inception DivX-TRI (ENG) 2010
    Movies / Thriller Tuesday
    4.3 days old 784 Mb 8065? 233? 67%
    Inception.2010.R5.LiNE.Xvid {1337x}-Noir.torrent
    Movies / Action Tuesday
    4.4 days old 632 Mb 5? 6? 67%
    Inception (2010) DvDRiP XViD Eng avi – MAXSPEED
    Movies / Sci-Fi Monday
    4.8 days old 772 Mb 4? 2? 47%
    Inception. HQ (2010) ENG DivX-PRO.avi
    Movies / Action Monday
    5 days old 710 Mb 7647? 185? 67%
    Inception (2010) HQ DvDRiP XViD Eng avi – MAX
    Movies / Sci-Fi Monday
    5.1 days old 772 Mb 1? 45? 42%
    Inception 2010 – TeleSync XviD – PrisM
    Movies / Action Monday
    5.1 days old 763 Mb 9? 11? 67%
    Inception 2010
    Movies / Drama Monday
    5.2 days old 761 Mb 5? 5? 59%
    Inception 2010
    Movies / Drama Sunday
    5.8 days old 756 Mb 4? 13? 48%
    Inception [DvDRiP XViD Eng 2010 - MAXSPEED]
    Movies / Sci-Fi Sunday
    5.8 days old 772 Mb 2? 2? 53%
    Inception (2010) DvDRiP XViD Eng avi – MAXSPEED
    Movies / Sci-Fi

  • PiRat

    This is what I like about the UK, it’s purely a civil offense so the can’t use the state against you and getting away with it is relatively easy if you know how to deal with solicitors properly.

  • Arb

    its classic case of blackmail and extortion, but damn courts are so damn blind to it

  • The United Hackers Association

    well when oil gets scarce and the economy really dives
    i guess they’ll drive the swat cares over to kids houses to arrest them…..

  • s2pid

    I’m rooting the files must be DJ Mebbe.

    check this Bob Marley won’t sue you getting up and Standing for your rights, I guess.

  • m3

    @7 , it would only be considered multiple files if its on 600 different torrents or 600 different individually labeled files for share where you could go ” Want file 1-20 xys name but not the rest” or whatever. 1 torrent or 1 file regardless of how much contents it has = 1 share.

  • RippOff

    If you want to share your entire music collection you’re better off using Bittorrent. Why? Because once you’ve seeded your entire collection it’s up to other peers to continue giving life to the torrent, leaving you off the hook.
    Remember, every torret must have at least one seeder, regardless of how many peers are downloading it….I mean, God himself couldn’t have come up with a better way of sharing.
    Bram Cohen should be canonized:^)

  • pepsi

    you say it’s difficult to prove large share infringement against torrenters.

    on a private tracker, can the entirety of a user’s snatched list be used as proof?, or can that user only be charged with sharing tracks which investigators have directly observed on a per-torrent basis via the swarm?

  • Aredt

    Its sickening to read TF these days. All morose news abound making me sad. I am thinking of turning off the rss feed for a couple of weeks. :-(

  • Eilif

    We want more guides from TF!

  • Dia

    Stupid people don’t read TF. If they did, they wouldn’t need the guides. These guides would have to be on Bieber’s myspace…

  • saxmaster

    @5: Concerning Ipredator. Call up Status Ipredator—properties—alternatives/check”call again if disconnected”. This will keep Ipredator running when the pc is on the net.Of course you can also connect/disconnect manually.

  • YaKnowWho

    well to summarize:

    1. use torrents
    2. use them with moderation
    3. be in Switzerland

    and all be fine.

  • my

    also it’s piracy law is a gray area issue – you can download but you can’t share(upload)

    since if I can download I use hosting sites like megaupload and hotfile to get my files

    and all will be fine

  • Anonymous

    Instead of trying to hide, we should be trying to change things so we don’t have to hide.

  • Anonymous

    We must destroy all the corporations and all the corporate parasites infecting them since they became a clear and present danger to our society.

    We should start with the entertainment industry and the bank then the oil and weapons companies.

    All these businesses must be replaced by a series of small companies who do not have the power to infest and take over our governments again.

  • Thomas Jefferson

    We should have put in the Constitution a clause about the separation of business and government.

    Looks like we forgot that one!

    Ooops!

  • bubanee

    the moment i get a copy of a physical disc that i paid for it becomes mine. i paid for it stiff shit,
    and i too wonder if a useraccount at a private site makes you a siting duck.. but as i’ve always said.. if they are so worried about p2p.. they should of thought of that when they placed a red button that said ‘record’ on a tape deck many years ago.. who’s really at fault here.. US who do this..
    NO.. it’s the companies who make MP3 players and Xvid compat devices.. Of Course Not! or maybe the whole INTERNET who allow people to do this.. Of Course Not!
    WAKE UP.. it’s to far gone and has been before the INTERNET even surfaced.. i might just dust off that old Sanyo cassette recorder and do some recording of the local AM RADIO station… Too Far Gone!

  • this.one

    @2:
    This is all kinda moot. People who read TF mainly use BitTorrent anyway and are already knowledgeable enough to know not to use folder sharing applications without a VPN.

    Also, even though Limewire is still installed on my PC, I haven’t used it in over a year, ever since Amazon opened up their DRM-free mp3 shop! :)

  • Rekrul

    @14, RippOff;

    Remember, every torret must have at least one seeder, regardless of how many peers are downloading it….I mean, God himself couldn’t have come up with a better way of sharing.

    That’s only absolutely true in the beginning. Depending on the distribution of parts among the peers, it’s possible that an entire copy of the file can be downloaded. If user A has the first 50% and user B has the last 50%, they can each exchange the parts they have and both end up as seeders. I agree that it’s unlikely, but it is possible.

    For myself, I use BitTorrent occasionally, but I also use eMule, which uses a shared directory. However, I only use it to download/share older more obscure stuff that nobody is likely to be watching for. BitTorrent may work great for recent/popular files, but try to download something that’s only six months old and you’re lucky if there are any seeders at all left.

  • me

    I would hardly call 3000 songs large scale, pretty much all my friends have well over this ammount of music downloaded illegaly.

  • Ninja

    21 years old for God sake. She’s a student with no money and lots of energy. Don’t go ruining lives you filthy bastards.

    Things like that make me mad.. And IFPI or MAFIAA if you will ain’t changing their ways. Bunch of idiots.

  • MMMS

    Too many pro-copyright people doing wasteful promotions.

  • wambam

    what counts as a heavy torrent user ?

  • Pingback: Honeywell “extensive illegal music filesharing” at plant « Who Knows What.

  • Pingback: Online Global Week in Review 17 September 2010 from IP Think Tank

  • thank you ma’am

    probably people who sit here all day and read these headlines. in terms of GB, though,i dont know. its a pretty subjective decision to make.

  • BTGuard - BitTorrent Anonymously

NewsBits

Even more news...

  • The Pirate Bay Isn’t Down Completely, Just Having a Few Issues

    Twitter and Facebook, not to mention the TorrentFreak inbox, are currently alive with complaints that The...

  • Pirate Bay Founder Gottfrid Svartholm on Freedom of Speech

    Freedom of speech is a highly valued commodity, but should people be allowed to say whatever...

  • Blu-ray Anti-Piracy Tech Stops Discs and Promotes Purchases

    An anti-piracy system present in all official Blu-ray players since 2012 has received a fresh update...

  • Foxtel Breeds Pirates by Locking Up Game of Thrones

    One of the main reasons why people turn to piracy is the lack of legal alternatives....

  • UK Student Admits Breaching Sony Copyrights With Leak of PS3 SDK

    Last year an Internet user known as El Nomeo leaked version 3.70 of Sony’s Playstation3 SDK...

MostDiscussed

Below are TorrentFreak's most discussed articles of the past month. Join the discussion if you like.

CopyQuote

Left Quote

“The Pirate Bay has been one of the most important movements in Sweden for freedom of speech, working against corruption and censorship.

Peter Sunde Left Quote

PopularArticles

A selection of some TorrentFreak's classics dug up from our archives.