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RIAA Expert Witness is “Borderline Incompetent” Says P2P Expert

In a major file-sharing legal case in the United States, a renowned P2P expert has offered his critique of the expert witness report offered by the RIAA. Prof. Johan Pouwelse’s testimony will be a devastating blow to the music industry as he labels RIAA expert Doug Jacobson’s report as “borderline incompetent”.

In file-sharing cases, the prosecution always claims to have irrefutable, cast-iron, even forensic-quality evidence, with which to batter alleged pirates into defeat. Organizations such as the RIAA claim to carry out their investigations using sophisticated equipment and software which, unlike every other piece of equipment and software in the known universe (especially operated by humans) never, ever goes wrong.

In order to prove they ‘got the right guy’, in UMG v Lindor the RIAA offered an expert witness, Dr. Doug Jacobson, a director of the Iowa State University Information Assurance Center. Now, according to Recording Industry vs The People, Marie Lindor is fighting back and has served a report from her own expert, critiquing the RIAA’s witness. Internationally renowned P2P expert “Assistant Professor” Johan Pouwelse, agreed to take on the RIAA expert back in May 2007 having previously been a witness in a high profile case in the Netherlands.

His findings in this case aren’t pretty.

Pouwelse notes that there are certain procedures that need to be taken in order to be certain that a specific computer had been uploading copyright works. These steps were not taken.

He further states the the RIAA’s expert witness’s work lacked “in-depth analysis” and “proper scientific scrutiny” while reports were described as “factually erroneous”. Furthermore, in his report, Jacobson made statements which were contradicted by those in his deposition testimony.

Turning to MediaSentry – the company used to track alleged infringers – Pouwelse says that their systems and techniques have not been properly tested, are “overly simplistic” and “fail the test for accurate peer to peer file sharing measurement”. Additionally, many institutions have received false claims from them, seriously throwing their claimed accuracy into doubt.

Pouwelse states that the subpoena used to identify Ms. Lindor’s account was flawed and that due to the fact that there is no hard drive available to corroborate the ‘evidence’, this “further demonstrates the unfounded nature of Jacobson’s conclusions.”

And he doesn’t stop there in his criticism of Jacobson’s testimony.

He further states that no other alternative explanations were investigated and no tests were carried out to determine a margin of error. Jacobson’s methods are “self-developed”, “unpublished” and not accepted by the scientific community. Jacobson’s investigative process is stated as “unprofessional”.

In conclusion, Dr. Pouwelse’s expert opinion is that Jacobson has shown “borderline incompetence” and that the “allegations of copyright violations are not proven”.

It would be interesting for me to see what Pouwelse makes of the tracking system used by Logistep in Europe. Sadly, at this stage TorrentFreak has learned that lawyers Davenport Lyons are refusing to allow people to see the code and examine the system to check its accuracy. I wonder why?

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  • Ben

    Haha.. hilarious!

  • Bahamut

    Now, if only that kind of information, you know, mattered to a judge.

  • SPYCOPY

    THE PROBLEM WITH THESE TYPE OF LAWSUITS IS THE JUDGES DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS TYPE OF STUFF-BITTORRENT TECHNOLOGY AND P2P APPS AND ETC. BUT HEY IF THIS LADY WINS THIS CASE AWESOME. IT WILL SET STANDARDS FOR OTHER CASES.

  • a/s/l

    twat

  • zarathustra

    I heartily recommend the RIAA training video available on TPB. It just goes to show how little they actually understand of, amongst many other issues, the fundamentals of the protocol _or_ the perspective of the ‘average’ P2Per.

    Watch how they ASSume that all file-sharers are either terrorists, murderers or drug dealers.

    Bloody hilarious!

    http://thepiratebay.org/tor/4034469/RIAA_Training_Video__Prosecution_of_Music_Piracy

  • hilarious

    Lawyers kills music!

  • Chris

    I can’t tell whether the P2P expert presented this in court or not…but if he didn’t, I don’t see why people are so happy. Many said OJ was guilty and that didn’t amount to much importance, did it.

  • Spoonman

    It’s not hilarious, it’s sickening. They’re using that video to drag law enforcement into the mix to counter piracy. These are officers needed to counter REAL crime.

  • t ff3ff

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  • Tyler

    ha

  • Cowboy of Death

    [quote comment="295222"]Lawyers kills music![/quote]
    Apparently, they also assume that all music pirates have multiple 40x CD-burning towers.

  • Isaac

    You made my day. Thanks!

  • Spanky69

    [quote comment="295260"]fas ‘l;f
    lm
    lmfa
    - t34p]m][p j[oijng[/quote]
    Anybody care to enlighten me, as to wtf that means?

  • OOb

    [quote comment="295260"]fas ‘l;f
    lm
    lmfa
    - t34p]m][p j[oijng[/quote]

    Exxxxxxxxxxactly ;)

  • JoeRodge

    [quote comment="295260"]fas ‘l;f
    lm
    lmfa
    - t34p]m][p j[oijng[/quote]
    hacker

  • James

    gtf ‘opo;:
    kk
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    lmij

    -[hhy67p][po

  • AnotherBrickInTheWall

    When I look at the bigger picture I just see sad fucking bastards biting at ankles.

    It makes me laugh at how pathetic the power of these organisations is in relation to all of us p2pers (basically everyone, admit it).

    You go to school and your teacher tells you to download cracked software because they know you’re skint and it’ll help you pass the course.

    Your gran asks you to download Beethoven’s ninth for her to chill to.

    You’re sitting bored with your pals so you download the latest DVDrip from TPB.

    This is how the world is now, and there’s fuck-all you can do about it.

    These twats can take a site down here, sue a 16 year old there, but ultimately they are fighting a losing battle.

    They know that though, they know fine well they can’t stop us. So they choose to be ankle-biters.

    Lol @ you ankle-biters, lol @ you.

  • JJ

    Dr POWER! yeeeeeehaw

  • Australian Dirtbag

    The RIAA can suk my balls……Record companys can suk my balls 2. If you losers would charge 3-5$ an album I’d replace my whole D/L library until then your margins are to high. Record company management are the reason we must pay exhorbitant prices per album. THEY are utterly stupid and sadly desperately trying to wrangle a dead horse using the likes of RIAA.
    Your times nearly up you sad weiner molesters……
    SUK ON THAT……..
    Oh yeah and SUK MY BALLS…………….(:

  • darkwing

    [quote comment="295186"]THE PROBLEM WITH THESE TYPE OF LAWSUITS IS THE JUDGES DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS TYPE OF STUFF-BITTORRENT TECHNOLOGY AND P2P APPS AND ETC. BUT HEY IF THIS LADY WINS THIS CASE AWESOME. IT WILL SET STANDARDS FOR OTHER CASES.[/quote]
    the problem with your comment is its in all caps

  • garygygax

    Concerning the RIAA video on TPB – i don’t believe it is concerned with your average pirate. If you actually watch the video, you will see that it is not talking about p2p users. The video is concerned with people who pirate music on a large scale and for financial gain. File sharing is one thing, but mass producing and distributing pirated music is a totally different ball park. since these pirates copy the cd cover, artwork, etc, they are violating trademark laws, which is what the RIAA representatives claim is how they charge most offenders.

  • Welshie

    @ 21

    Yes, but the RIAA are tryin to ‘tar pirates with the same brush’ as those organised criminal gangs that mass produce counterfit goods…and thereby sway any future jurers opinions in their favour BEFORE the case even starts against ‘joe public’.

    They play the long game…

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  • peter griffin

    “….at this stage TorrentFreak has learned that lawyers Davenport Lyons are refusing to allow people to see the code and examine the system to check its accuracy. I wonder why?”

    cause that would make it shit simple for pirates to develop anti-tracking measures.

    what else?

    have you ever been falsely sued by them?

    @garygygax: yes. exactly what i think :)

  • Mr Roboto

    @22 No the reason is that if they let real professionals look at the way their software is put together and records so called incriminating data, they’ll see how flawed and un-scientific it is you dumb fuck!

    Also the only way to stop people from tracking ip addresses is to encrypt them… God are you really that stupid?

  • oneplusone

    [quote comment="295209"]I heartily recommend the RIAA training video available on TPB. It just goes to show how little they actually understand of, amongst many other issues, the fundamentals of the protocol _or_ the perspective of the ‘average’ P2Per.

    Watch how they ASSume that all file-sharers are either terrorists, murderers or drug dealers.

    Bloody hilarious!

    http://thepiratebay.org/tor/4034469/RIAA_Training_Video__Prosecution_of_Music_Piracy/quote
    Oh that was good. I paraphrase: “You can busted that crack-house by getting your foot in the door buying a pirated music CD.”

    Ohhh, that is soooo true!

  • Space

    Fuck the RIAA.

    You know it had to be said.

  • oneplusone

    [quote comment="295209"]

    Bloody hilarious!

    http://thepiratebay.org/tor/4034469/RIAA_Training_Video__Prosecution_of_Music_Piracy/quote

    These people are idiots. How in the whole scheme of things is it preferable to try and convict a crack dealer of music piracy? They sound like children ‘playing police’. They look all serious, but people, they are talking about bloody CDs. Unbelievable! Their admission that most of their investigators being ‘retired police officers’ is interesting. What did they all have bad backs? Or are some/most of them dirty cops?

    So to conclude, this movie is awesome. While it isn’t ‘Superbad’ it is still funny. AND Frank has no neck. Somebody must have pirated it.

  • Bolton

    @27 Superbad was complete shit.

  • oneplusone

    I find it difficult to believe that society should have to pay 50-70K/yr/case incarcerating ‘pirates’. If the RIAA deems it a crime, let them pay the bill. Our society is so knee-jerk, I tell ya. Honestly, who cares about it that much? What a bunch of tools.

  • Anonymous

    I had my first programming class with Doug Jacobson. Its really too bad…

  • R2

    Thats is the main problem. They think file sharing is what moves thoes mass pirate guys selling on the street.
    Not true, we had pirated Video tapes even before P2P!
    We have pirated Nike tenis, and don’t tell me they downloaded the autocad project on TPB !
    RIAA eat my tits!!!!!

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  • Mithra

    Enigmax is right about logistep, DL’s so called ‘forensic IT experts’

    I’m sure closer examination wouldn’t even flatter them with ‘borderline imcompetent’

    Just totally dishonest, they say what they are being paid to say.

  • AnarchyNow

    legalist bullshits, nobody should care about the worst-than-nazi world government

  • pirate and proud

    [quote]Enigmax is right about logistep, DL’s so called ‘forensic IT experts’

    I’m sure closer examination wouldn’t even flatter them with ‘borderline imcompetent’

    Just totally dishonest, they say what they are being paid to say.
    [/quote]

    And also remember that logistep have been deemed illegal in there home country.

  • zarathustra

    [quote comment="295735"][quote comment="295209"]I heartily recommend the RIAA training video available on TPB. It just goes to show how little they actually understand of, amongst many other issues, the fundamentals of the protocol _or_ the perspective of the ‘average’ P2Per.

    Watch how they ASSume that all file-sharers are either terrorists, murderers or drug dealers.

    Bloody hilarious!

    http://thepiratebay.org/tor/4034469/RIAA_Training_Video__Prosecution_of_Music_Piracy/quote
    Oh that was good. I paraphrase: “You can busted that crack-house by getting your foot in the door buying a pirated music CD.”

    Ohhh, that is soooo true![/quote]

    I _always_ get free crack with my CD-Rs. Don’t you?

    =]

  • h33t.com

    i downloaded this mp3 then the sote offered me crack too

    after a couple of downloads i bought a gun and now i am preparing for a suicide attack on Washington

    thank you to all the filesharers you showed me the way to heaven and 77 virgins

    if i never downloaded a mp3 then i would never be saved

  • h33t.com

    craaaaaaaack and priracy is greeeeeeeeeeeeeat

  • Welshie

    [quote comment="295717"]@22 No the reason is that if they let real professionals look at the way their software is put together and records so called incriminating data, they’ll see how flawed and un-scientific it is you dumb fuck!

    Also the only way to stop people from tracking ip addresses is to encrypt them… God are you really that stupid?[/quote]

    Ahem…my post started off AGREEING with post 21…and you defend it AND critisise me? Who’s the Dumb F**c now (troll perhaps?)

    I was merely concluding that the lawyers end game is not always what you think…they will try any and all ways to muddy the legal waters.

    I agree with your conclusions that yhe reasons why they will not release the code is because it will show how flawed their evidence is (and allow programmers to circumvent its detection protocols in the future)…that’s obvious to us techies.

    …but you are wrong about encryption being the ‘only’ way to stop people from tracking ip addresses.

    Perhaps some technical knowlege before posting in the future Mr. Roboto? And maybe time to take your prozac? ;-)

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  • RIAA expert says:

    [quote comment="295404"]gtf ‘opo;:
    kk
    xk
    lmij

    -[hhy67p][po[/quote]

    this person is clearly a hacker, thief, terrorist, wife-beater, and/or child-molester, not to mention one confusing bastard. down with them all (even if they include my own kids)!!

  • RIAA expert says:

    [quote comment="296461"]i downloaded this mp3 then the sote offered me crack too

    after a couple of downloads i bought a gun and now i am preparing for a suicide attack on Washington

    thank you to all the filesharers you showed me the way to heaven and 77 virgins

    if i never downloaded a mp3 then i would never be saved[/quote]

    ok if that’s not 100% damning evidence that we are definitely the morally right side of the cause i don’t know what is! filesharers of all types must ALL die (financially and otherwise) and i don’t care who suffers in the process, this is a just cause, they deserve it for their massive violations so we will continue to fight with as many lawsuits as we can afford (without completely destroying our image and legitimacy and profitability in the process)! just ask who would Jesus sue? or was that…

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